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2025/05/05 19:01:18
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
The 70s and 80s really went for the dystopian game show. Whilst I'm sure the film is about themes of individualism versus collectivism and rebellion against authority when pressured, I don't think I'd be able to get over the weird setup. Not for me.
Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Flinty wrote: The 70s and 80s really went for the dystopian game show. Whilst I'm sure the film is about themes of individualism versus collectivism and rebellion against authority when pressured, I don't think I'd be able to get over the weird setup. Not for me.
King started writing the book back in 1966-67 when he was in college, so a bit before the dystopian game show phase and it's been categorized as a metaphor for the Vietnam War. Personally, I'll watch it just to see Mark Hamill...
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2025/05/08 21:32:36
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
It’s one of the few early King books I never got around to. Better find a copy…
What summer movies are you all looking forward to most?
I feel a little weird that the films I am most hyped for are M3gan 2.0, Weapons and HIM. I thought I would feel more excitement for Superman or F4, but I just don’t. The only interest I have in Lilo and Stitch or MI Final Reckoning is if they pull off the “Stitchin’ Impossible” cultural moment, which I doubt they will. Tron and Jurassic World are almost certainly going to be meh. What else even is there?
Oh right, The Phoenician Scheme. Ehhhhhhhhh, beats HTTYD for me.
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BobtheInquisitor wrote: It is out right now, but not for long. It got crushed by Sinners and Revenge of the Sith rereleased.
Which kinda sucks cause it was a LOT of fun and a genuinely enjoyable movie. Granted Sinners was better but that doesn't take away from how enjoyable The Accountant 2 was. Hopefully it makes it's money back via the way the first one did with streaming.
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2025/05/08 22:55:49
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
Warner Bros. will release the first of its new batch of live-action “The Lord of the Rings” films in 2026, which will focus on Andy Serkis’ Gollum.
Original “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy filmmaker Peter Jackson and his partners Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens are producing the movie and “will be involved every step of the way,” Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav said during an earnings call Thursday.
Ugh...
Release date of 17 December 2027 according to Variety.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2025/05/08 23:27:25
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
Warner Bros. will release the first of its new batch of live-action “The Lord of the Rings” films in 2026, which will focus on Andy Serkis’ Gollum.
Original “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy filmmaker Peter Jackson and his partners Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens are producing the movie and “will be involved every step of the way,” Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav said during an earnings call Thursday.
Ugh...
Release date of 17 December 2027 according to Variety.
Good, the further away it is, the better. I can do without another Peter "I don't like the way Tolkien wrote it so I changed it, hur, hur." Jackson, LoTR cash-in film.
I'm not sure which director fills me with dread more, Jackson or Ridley Scott.
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2025/05/09 17:37:04
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
Easter Egg breakdown, and that's an actual working phone number...
Spoiler:
.... with details starting at the 7:25 mark
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2025/05/10 17:26:59
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
Warner Bros. will release the first of its new batch of live-action “The Lord of the Rings” films in 2026, which will focus on Andy Serkis’ Gollum.
Original “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy filmmaker Peter Jackson and his partners Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens are producing the movie and “will be involved every step of the way,” Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav said during an earnings call Thursday.
Ugh...
Release date of 17 December 2027 according to Variety.
Good, the further away it is, the better. I can do without another Peter "I don't like the way Tolkien wrote it so I changed it, hur, hur." Jackson, LoTR cash-in film.
I'm not sure which director fills me with dread more, Jackson or Ridley Scott.
What are you talking about?
2025/05/10 18:29:38
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
On the Surface of the Sun aka Florida in the Summer.
There are a lot of things that I know had to be trimmed or excised from the writings of Tolkien to fit into a cohesive film. But Jackson said he changed things he didn't like...
Ie the Scouring of the Shire, Faramir (Faramir understands the danger of the One Ring and that it must not come near Minas Tirith. He believes the Ring came within his grasp as a test of his quality, and he declares that he never would have taken the Ring from Frodo. When he encounters Frodo and Sam, he treats them with courtesy and honor). Faramir is also a self insert of the author in the series. Tolkien based Faramir on himself during WWI.
But Jackson thought the character was wrong and changed it. Much like Denethor, and other characters Jackson didn't like, so he gave them radically different personalities... or having Sam leave Frodo. In the book, Sam contemplates suicide when he thinks Frodo is dead.
One more gripe. The Duidain (aka the Rangers of the North) return. The big reveal in the books is Aragorn's people come back. The movies? Never mentioned.
I'd rather not talk about the Hobbit Movies.
I can go on, but you probably have already stopped reading this.
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
Eh, I think the choices made when Jackson adapted LotR were reasonable and made sense. Probably for the best he just did that trilogy and nothing else set in Middle Earth, moving on to other projects afterward.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Ahtman wrote: Eh, I think the choices made when Jackson adapted LotR were reasonable and made sense. Probably for the best he just did that trilogy and nothing else set in Middle Earth, moving on to other projects afterward.
I kinda wondered what happened to Sauruman though... they just forgot about him in his tower.
Isn't Andy Serkis (aka the Cook from King Kong) directing this new one?
I think that Peter Jackson did an excellent job with the visuals and Howard Shore did an excellent job on the soundtrack. It's a great achievement to get LOTR on film at all, and the first film is remarkably close to the book. It's also my favourite of the films.
But Jackson changes characters to make them worse all over the place in his films, often to inject conflict into scenes where it isn't needed (in my view).
Frodo is the best example of worsening a character. Frodo in the book is brave and heroic, the best of the Hobbits. He fights back at Weathertop and in Moria. He stands up to the Black Riders at the Ford. He skillfully negotiates with Faramir and impresses him. Film Frodo runs away and falls over at Weathertop and Moria. He is essentially unconscious at the Ford. He is totally out of it with Faramir and tries to give the Ring to a Nazgul. I think they just amped the Ring up way too much and leaned way too much into the addiction idea and ended up robbing Frodo of all agency and making him pathetic, or a Ring Zombie.
Theoden is much less brave and sensible than in the book. Gandalf is much more aggressive and bellicose. Aragorn is nowhere near as assured and kingly. Legolas loses his sense of humour while Gimli loses his dignity. Merry and Pippin become total morons rather than irresponsible but good hearted youths.
Denethor goes from being an incredibly strong man cracking under insane pressure to a pompous, evil lunatic. About the only character elevated by the films is Boromir, mostly by Sean Bean's performance but to be fair they had some decent script for him too. Faramir's character assassination is well known.
And yeah, people always argue that doing all this was required to do a film adaptation. I don't believe that's true, and I think if it WAS required they simply shouldn't have done a film adaptation then. It's tantamount to vandalism.
Ahtman wrote: Eh, I think the choices made when Jackson adapted LotR were reasonable and made sense. Probably for the best he just did that trilogy and nothing else set in Middle Earth, moving on to other projects afterward.
I kinda wondered what happened to Sauruman though... they just forgot about him in his tower.
Isn't Andy Serkis (aka the Cook from King Kong) directing this new one?
Saruman's fate was cut from the theatrical version for pacing reasons. It's covered in the extended edition of Return of the King. Short version:
Spoiler:
Angry trees lock down Isengard until Gandalf and murder hobo posse arrive after the siege of Helm's Deep, there's a brief conversation in which Saruman hurts Grima's feelings, Grima stabs Saruman, Grima gets shot by Legolas, Saruman falls to his death, murder hobos get loot and move on.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
2025/05/14 19:07:07
Subject: Re:Thread for Upcoming Movies and Trailers
Probably not a name too well known outside of Murica, but apparently there's a biopic of John Madden coming, starring Nic Cage as Madden and Christian Bale as Al Davis. Have only seen a shot of Bale/Cage in their makeup for the roles, but I'm already sold.
Announcing Cage’s casting last August, director Russell(David O Russell (American Hustle, Three Kings, The Fighter)) said: “Nicolas Cage, one of our greatest and most original actors, will portray the best of the American spirit of originality, fun and determination in which anything is possible as beloved national legend John Madden.
“Together with the ferocious style, focus and inspired individualism of Al Davis, owner of the underdog Oakland Raiders, the feature will be about the joy, humanity and genius that was John Madden in a wildly inventive, cool world of the 1970s.”
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
Easy E wrote: "If the movie wants to be good, it will have to score more box office dollars than other movies." - John Madden probably
It would be pretty dope if Madden is the narrator and just circles random stuff during the movie and goes off on a tangent. I learned about cumulus, stratus and cirrus clouds sometime in the late 80’s because he went off topic and starting pointing out the different kinds of clouds during a football game.
‘Don’t worry about the horse being blind, just load the wagon” is what he told his team before taking the field.
Man, hearing/seeing Nic Cage say some of this stuff is going to be amazing.
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"Sometimes the only victory possible is to keep your opponent from winning." - The Emperor, from The Outcast Dead.
"Tell your gods we are coming for them, and that their realms will burn as ours did." -Thostos Bladestorm
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