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Ever had a show, book, or movie that you love... but you cringe every time a certain character graces the scene.
From Jar-Jar Binks in The Phantom Menace to Alpha "Aie-Aie-Aie!" Five in Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, there are plenty of characters that I know you wish never existed.
What character can you do without ever seeing, hearing, or reading about ever again?
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BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
I get he’s meant to be annoying, but did they have to go down the Channel 4 “comedian” route of annoying?
Automatically Appended Next Post: Phil Mitchell, out of off of Eastenders.
He’s basically a sociopath, and likes to make random people enemies to fill his sad little life. How come with all the deaths on the square, nobody has put the audience out of his misery?
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Seriously in the past it was just one of his many toys and items; in modern Who its basically the hero of most situations! Everything is going wrong, but don't worry Sonic Screwdriver will save us!
Way overblown (and seriously they could at least have brought back K9 if they wanted to have a robot character!)
Amber in Invincible, she's just there to milk the secret identity superhero trope and then upend it by revealing she knows he was Invincible the whole time but still had the gall to be mad he couldn't make it in time to help at the soup kitchen because he was out risking his life for people. The backlash against her character was so bad that they basically lobotomized the character and changed her personality into a full 180 in the second season because everyone hated her. She was ultimately superfluous since Atom Eve was the end game girl anyways, so I feel they could have omitted her from the story since she has very little impact on the overall plot.
Oskar from Hey Arnold, complete mooch and a pain to see whenever an episode focuses or includes him.
For Star Wars, I also found Omega from Bad Batch to be insufferable (especially since at this point and time, there have been plenty of kid characters that have been written well in animation so there's no excuse for that) and the Martel Sisters who basically wasted 3 episodes in the last season of Clone Wars.
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Seriously in the past it was just one of his many toys and items; in modern Who its basically the hero of most situations! Everything is going wrong, but don't worry Sonic Screwdriver will save us!
Way overblown (and seriously they could at least have brought back K9 if they wanted to have a robot character!)
Also “psychic paper”. Whatever happened to The Doctor just waltzing in like he owns the place, and keeping everyone baffled until he’s achieved his goal?
I get the stories being truncated down a single 45m episode in most cases means you need to crack on, but I still utterly loathe psychic paper.
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Return Of the Jedi was my favourite Star Wars movie, and took as much of a place in my heart as Clash of the Titans. Seriously, nothing greater could be in the TV listings and I dreamed of one day having the chance to see it on the big screen...
That day came during the summer of 1997 and I nearly walked out of the cinema. The new musical number was already standing out like a sore thumb, but Sy's singing was so painfully childish and annoying that I just cannot watch that version again without skipping the whole Jabba part.
Its a tie between the mopiest Eyore badasses in the Galaxy.
Mannequin Skywalker, and his, "well I guess I'm evil now, time to start hacking down children younglings. Yep. Totally changed to evil and see it as a reasonable thing to start killing everyone I know.
And Kylo Ren. I'm evil, because I'm evil. I have to kill everyone. Why can't I be as evil as my evil grandpa.
I just can't measure up. Oooh I'm so mad! I'm going to throw a force temper tantrum!
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
Lathe Biosas wrote: Its a tie between the mopiest Eyore badasses in the Galaxy.
Mannequin Skywalker, and his, "well I guess I'm evil now, time to start hacking down children younglings. Yep. Totally changed to evil and see it as a reasonable thing to start killing everyone I know.
And Kylo Ren. I'm evil, because I'm evil. I have to kill everyone. Why can't I be as evil as my evil grandpa.
I just can't measure up. Oooh I'm so mad! I'm going to throw a force temper tantrum!
I like Kylo Ren, so I’ll offer a defence. Only offer, mind. This isn’t denying the next person their opinion.
He’s a mixed up kid, and one with significant power and family pedigree. Related to not one, but four persons of great significance to Galactic History. And there’s Palpatine, away in his secret bunker, pushing doubts and playing up expectations in his mind. Neither his mother or father can really understand his power. And, from his point of view, had his Uncle try to murder him in his bed. Not at that point because of what he had done, but because of what he might do.
And not entirely unlike Wanda Maximoff, he’s always been used by others for their own gain. Or at least, you can see where and how he formed that opinion.
I’m not sure if we’ve outside of movies backstory for him yet, but he seems emotionally stunted. And we don’t know how young he was when Snoke started whispering to him (Leia says Snoke had been pouring poison in his ear, but not for how long), or exactly when he was packed off to Uncle Luke’s Space Boarding School For Space Wizards. But that sort of thing can mess a kid up, as it’s a form of parental rejection - from a certain point of view.
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Lathe Biosas wrote: Its a tie between the mopiest Eyore badasses in the Galaxy.
Mannequin Skywalker, and his, "well I guess I'm evil now, time to start hacking down children younglings. Yep. Totally changed to evil and see it as a reasonable thing to start killing everyone I know.
And Kylo Ren. I'm evil, because I'm evil. I have to kill everyone. Why can't I be as evil as my evil grandpa.
I just can't measure up. Oooh I'm so mad! I'm going to throw a force temper tantrum!
The problem with Kylo, in my view, isn't his outbursts - lets not forget Vader often killed people for 1 mistake/failure or even just challenging him. His first use of the mind-strangulation was just in a regular meeting.
The difference is Kylo is a teen acting out without the menacing element behind him to really make it feel threatening but worse, he's also in an army led by teenagers as well. There's no mature character in the First Order to really provide a balance. The only one that is is Snoke who gets so little screentime we don't even know who the heck he is or what he's doing.
If you compare the First Order to the A New Hope Imperials there's a massive difference. One is an organised military with experienced leaders who know what they are doing and who are very clearly in command - the other is running around like a headless chicken with some supertoys but no real maturity behind it.
My first thought was Neelix from Star Trek: Voyager (actually my first thought was Alixus from DS9 'Paradise', but she's supposed to be that awful), but I'll give him this, any time he had an actual storyline about himself where we saw how his forced joie de vivre was masking incredible trauma he was actually pretty watchable, it's just when he was used as throwaway comedy every other week when he had no subtext that he was grating as hell; ultimately I did feel some feels when he did his last walk off the ship in 'Homestead' so I can't be too harsh on him.
So let's talk about Mass Effect's Kai smegging Leng. I'm almost tempted to give him some credit for being so wholeheartedly a representation of every ill-considered decision the trilogy had made by that point (don't get me wrong I love it, but even in ME2 the promise of ME1 was being saddled with lazy writing; everything better than 6/10 in ME3 was inherited from the past two games) so technically gutting him like a Cornish game hen would've been a satisfying rebuke of whoever thought making a two-bit redneck techbro conspiracy like Cerberus integral to a war that began 50,000 years (at the narrowest) before humanity ever dragged its barely-sapient backside into the stars was a good idea but setting this dime store cyberpunk reject up as Shepard's recurring nemesis was such a narrative slap in the face that I don't even bother remembering when he died. Bosh'tet I was swapping gunfire and philosophical retorts with Saren Arterius like a day after I finished making myself look like Jodie Foster from Contact in the character editor (didn't really nail it, if we're being honest), you think you rate an entry on Death List Five as anything other than 'and whoever's in my way'? I'd say maybe you should've remembered to put your backstory in the actual game, rather than spin-off comics and novels, but they were such a third-rate waste of paper and ink, culminating in Deception which was so abominable even the husk that was all that was left after EA impaled Bioware on a Dragon's Tooth disowned it, that you and they frankly deserve each other, and if you'd had the stones to come at Thane Krios any time before he was virtually on his deathbed with Kepral's I'd have stood back and held his friggin' coat. You can kiss my azure and I'm only offering that for the comedy of watching you get sucked up your own rear when Liara gets jealous and pops a singularity inside your chest cavity.
All the humans in all 7 live action Transformers films, apart from the handful of military and military-adjacent characters that were playing it straight.
Ex-Mantic Rules Committees: Kings of War, Warpath
"The Emperor is obviously not a dictator, he's a couch." Starbuck: "Why can't we use the starboard launch bays?"
Engineer: "Because it's a gift shop!"
He’s not Vader. And he’s not his Mum, or his Dad, or his Uncle. But seemingly, nobody really gave him a chance to figure out who he truly is. A life of legacy and hefty expectation.
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Let's try it with a character that I totally didn't understand in a movie that made zero sense.
Eddie Redmane's character in... Jupiter Ascending
Spoiler:
You thought I was going to say Fantastic Beasts
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I'm going to ignore certain things like the fact that this film has glowing flying ice skates, and a shirtless dog eared Channing Tatum, but it has a character who is so annoying that my brain has put up a telepathic block so strong that a Vorlon couldn't overcome, to what his character's name was.
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
I’m not sure that film even has characters in the traditional sense. Caricatures and cliches, yes, but not any entities you actually give any kind of damn about.
Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!
Yeah. I'm not sure it's possible to reasonably discuss characters from Jupiter Ascending. People who saw the movie are prone to pretending that they didn't.
Nehekhara lives! Sort of!
Why is the rum always gone?
Geifer wrote: Yeah. I'm not sure it's possible to reasonably discuss characters from Jupiter Ascending. People who saw the movie are prone to pretending that they didn't.
You sound like the perfect victi... volunteer! to click the spoiler below and read.
Spoiler:
In the vast cosmos of cinematic storytelling, few films have dared to reach the ambitious heights of Jupiter Ascending. Directed by the visionary Wachowski siblings, known for their groundbreaking work on The Matrix, this film is a dazzling spectacle that transcends the boundaries of traditional science fiction. With a star-studded cast featuring the incomparable Mila Kunis, the ever-charismatic Channing Tatum, the legendary Sean Bean, and the mesmerizing Eddie Redmayne, Jupiter Ascending is a masterclass in ensemble performance.
From the very first frame, the audience is thrust into a meticulously crafted universe that is as rich as it is expansive. The world-building is nothing short of extraordinary, with each planet and species intricately designed to evoke a sense of wonder and awe. The cinematography, helmed by the talented John Toll, captures the breathtaking beauty of this universe, with sweeping vistas and stunning visual effects that leave viewers spellbound. Every scene is a feast for the eyes, showcasing the Wachowskis' unparalleled ability to blend practical effects with cutting-edge CGI.
The score, composed by the brilliant Michael Giacchino, elevates the film to new emotional heights. Each note resonates with the audience, perfectly complementing the film's themes of love, destiny, and the struggle for identity. The music swells during pivotal moments, drawing viewers into the emotional core of the story and leaving them breathless. It is a score that lingers long after the credits roll, a testament to its power and beauty.
Character development in Jupiter Ascending is profound and nuanced. Mila Kunis delivers a stunning performance as Jupiter Jones, a young woman destined for greatness. Her journey from a humble life on Earth to becoming a key player in an intergalactic power struggle is both inspiring and relatable. Channing Tatum's portrayal of Caine Wise, a genetically engineered warrior, adds layers of complexity to the narrative. Their chemistry is palpable, creating moments that resonate deeply with audiences, often bringing them to tears.
Eddie Redmayne's performance as the villainous Balem Abrasax is nothing short of iconic. His portrayal is chilling and captivating, embodying the essence of a power-hungry monarch with a chillingly calm demeanor. The depth of his character adds a rich layer to the film, making the stakes feel incredibly high and the conflict all the more engaging.
The screenplay, a tapestry of intricate plotlines and emotional arcs, weaves together themes of love, sacrifice, and the quest for belonging. The dialogue sparkles with wit and poignancy, ensuring that every character feels fully realized and relatable. The Wachowskis have crafted a narrative that is both epic in scope and intimate in its exploration of the human experience.
In conclusion, Jupiter Ascending is a triumph of modern cinema, a film that dares to dream big and delivers on every front. It is a visual and auditory feast that will leave audiences breathless, with moments that will linger in their hearts long after the final credits. The performances, the score, the world-building, and the emotional depth all come together to create a cinematic experience that is nothing short of extraordinary.
But, I’m sorry, I can’t keep writing this. I don’t believe a word I’m saying.
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BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
Geifer wrote: Yeah. I'm not sure it's possible to reasonably discuss characters from Jupiter Ascending. People who saw the movie are prone to pretending that they didn't.
I liked the weird dog-man Ewan McGregor was playing. Otherwise I don't remember gak about it.
The thing about 40k is that no one person can grasp the fullness of it.
Geifer wrote: Yeah. I'm not sure it's possible to reasonably discuss characters from Jupiter Ascending. People who saw the movie are prone to pretending that they didn't.
I liked the weird dog-man Ewan McGregor was playing. Otherwise I don't remember gak about it.
Channing Tatum? Canis Wise, the most fearsome bounty hunter and his magical glowing sky boots?
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
Yeah, Jupiter Ascending feels like less of a real movie and some fluke of a creation that felt like all someone just smashed a bunch of generic sci fi movie tropes together and just happened to have actors nearby to read out lines.
I forgot to mention Lisa Simpson, she's by far one of the most annoying and smug know-it-alls in cartoon sitcoms that gets increasingly more flanderized as the seasons goes on to be not only a massive hypocrite but actively goes out of her way to sabotage or demean anyone who remotely exceeds or steals attention away from her. I think there's at least 4-5 episodes where Bart ends up being a prodigy in something and Lisa ruins it for him out of jealousy/spite and more than half the time she's not even punished or sorry for it. She's also just a mouthpiece for whatever trendy fad is taking place in the current zeitgeist, so she's less of a character and more of an embodiment of whatever talking points are popular at the moment.
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