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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/09 10:54:31
Subject: Hypothetical Question; Primarchs
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RogueSangre
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Okay, so, hypothetical situation.
Lets say that Cypher, or the Illuminati, or the Sensei, or whoever succedes, and the Emperor is reborn/revitalized.
Does he re create the Primarchs? If so, does he create the "same" ones? Just the ones who stayed loyal? Or all of them? There were a few that would have been easy to keep loyal, in hindsight.
It's possible for them to fall to chaos. Would he try to find some way to prevent that from happening? Is there some conceivable way of doing so?
Does he recreate the legions?
What about the two lost legions? What would he do with those?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/09 11:17:36
Subject: Hypothetical Question; Primarchs
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm guessing that the Emperor is a rational being, able to learn from his mistakes, and avoid them in the future, despite the fact that he is essentially a homo sapiens.
Seeing as the last time he decided to create twenty primarchs it almost got him killed, split the galaxy in half, and the half that was on his side completely lost it and started doing everything he didn't want them to do (*cough* worship) I'd kinda expect him to flag this as a BIG RED ****ING BLIP on the mistake list.
Truth be told, why would he want to recreate primarchs again? Half of them went renegade, and the loyal half... let's not even get there. Two of them were too busy twiddling their thumbs to help out when Horus was attacking their father (Guilliman and the Lion), one of them was drunk enough to trust Horus and go kill his otherwise loyal brother just because his other brother said so, two others were merrily getting themselves killed because they charged in head first due to their sense of honor and loyalty that overwrote all tactical acumen they were supposed to possess (Ferrus and Sanguinius), two more were dumb enough to get caught between two different armies (Vulkan and Corax - and yeah, they didn't know the other legions would turn traitor, but it kinda stands to reason that you don't want to be between your allies and your enemies either).
Then there was the aftermath:
- Russ ran away from home to apologize to Magnus or something,
- Corax ran away from home because he thought his father would ground him for cloning experiments,
- Dorn took up S&M and started breaking stuff,
- Guilliman wrote a boring book that half his brothers hated anyway, then proceeded to duel a four armed daemon,
- the Khan ignored the fact that the Emperor always told him "do not mindlessly jump into portals to Commoragh",
- Vulkan went out to buy cigars and didn't come back,
- the Lion was surprised when he got stabbed in the back by the one he called his best friend, yet stranded him on a backwater rock and ignored him for two hundred years while he was out soothing his manliness (or lack of thereof) by randomly butchering stuff across the galaxy in an aura of glory.
If I was a father and these were my kids, I'd be pretty ashamed of myself...
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Q: How many Space Marines does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: None. The Emperor IS MY LIGHT!!!
Azezel wrote:I believe they've tried that. thirteen times in fact... Fourteen if you count that Horus thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/09 11:24:13
Subject: Hypothetical Question; Primarchs
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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Well said Lupe.
I would probably be tempted to use the increased faith/wave of worship to mount another crusade to kick bottom and secure the galaxy, then gradually work towards a more enlightened, scientific universe that the Emp was originally going for.
I would probably welcome back the remaining primarchs and reprogram them into being what they once were, shaking them out of their stupidity, and go looking for the ones that were lost (see crusade mentioned above  ).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/09 11:26:34
Subject: Hypothetical Question; Primarchs
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Mighty Brass Scorpion of Khorne
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I don't think he'd ever recreate the Primarch's.
If the emperor did come back I could imagine him reuniting all of the ones that went missing and fixing king ultrasmurf ect, but I doubt making more Primarch's would be high on his list of priorities (just in case they get stolen by chaos again).
Any human can fall to chaos so I think the emperor might have learnt his lesson.
I can't see the legions being remade, i think he'd be pretty proud of Guilliman and his codex astartes.
As for the lost legions...i reckon he would find them (and hopefully one of them has turned into a deamon prince of some sort
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/09 11:35:19
Subject: Re:Hypothetical Question; Primarchs
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Sinewy Scourge
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I was about to say that if he redid the primachs, he'd do them one at a time to prevent chaos snatching and to raise them right.
Then I considered who was the one primach this occurred with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/09 16:22:19
Subject: Hypothetical Question; Primarchs
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Regular Dakkanaut
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In the spirit of fairness, I thought I should thoroughly dismantle the traitor primarchs' post heresy actions. - Horus managed to get himself killed, not before feeling remorse over killing his sister. Also, he managed to have his body stolen by a crazy doctor. - Lorgar keeps writing books that nobody remotely sane and almost nobody insane ever reads. He's retired to his parish, Neverland, on Sicarus, where he does thing best left uncontemplated. - Fulgrim felt so sorry for killing her brother that she was easy target for some evil daemon sword stalker that just wanted to take advantage. She joined the Heresy, but army life wasn't her style, so she went AWOL during the siege of Terra. She got picked up for 5 billion counts of rape, murder, assault and prostitution, and is now serving 10 to 15M in the Occulus terriblus correctional facility. - Mortarion managed to get himself really lost in the warp, which is essentially slowed, since you could come out at random, and you'd still get within reach of some familiar landmark. He stopped washing, and strange scabs started appearing on his skin, in no way related to STDs contracted from his sister. - Magnus wanted to warn his daddy but he was too lazy to go there in person, so instead used the one way comm channel that triggered the self destruct sequence for the Webway that he wasn't really told about. Needles to say that when his daddy was pissed off and sent the guy who hated his guts to turn his planet into glass craters, he seized the opportunity to do the only reasonable thing possible: fight his brother, rather than bugger off, wait for him to calm down, and then explain himself. Also, when he got his ass thoroughly handed to him, instead of facing it like a man, he jumped into the HMS Tzeenchanic. - Perturabo; went all sentimental and ignored the antisocial trend that had served him so well for two centuries, placed his trust in the guy whose guts he hated for stealing the title that he thought should have been his, then giving him all the crappy assignments, only to be cruelly manipulated in the end. Also, he destroyed his homeworld, over a slight mistranslation of their oath of loyalty, then he he got robbed of his chance at taking out Terra by Horus. As a positive point, he did manage to royally take the piss out of Dorn with a lot of cardboard walls. - Angron: failed to ravage a small hive world, and got banished back into the warp following a failed (is there any other kind?) Black Crusade. Also, he didn't kill Kharn after completely obliterating the Legion better than the enemy could have ever done. - Alpharius: well, he joined the Heresy because he thought his dad would wike it if he killed all of mankind in the process of defeating the Chaos Gods. Need I say more? Oh, yeah, he may or may not have been killed by Guilliman, of all people. - Night Haunter: He stands by and lets himself get killed to show his daddy that he'll eventually miss him. Oh, yeah, they pretty much all lost control of their Legions to a first company captain.
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Q: How many Space Marines does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: None. The Emperor IS MY LIGHT!!!
Azezel wrote:I believe they've tried that. thirteen times in fact... Fourteen if you count that Horus thing.
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