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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 10:11:56
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Been Around the Block
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Having built ¾ of a pre-heresy/heresy era World Eaters army (thread can be found here http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/320393.page for those interested) I felt that it needed some kind of centre piece, at least until I got round to building Angron himself.
The trouble was, what to pick? The army itself is a full drop pod assault army, so unless it was something that fitted then it would probably never get used games wise. Then one evening after receiving the GW “Armies on Parade” email and looking through collected visions the inspiration struck me.
What would look better than a display board for the true scale World Eaters storming a fortress…..led by a massive true scale land raider.
Scouring my old friend Google images through up some truly wonderful conversions by those who’d got there first, combining the Land Raider kit with the tracks from the Baneblade. But something about the “Baneraiders” of Doghouse, Lamenter et al. didn’t feel right. No disrespect meant but I think it was the fact that they looked like a normal Land Raider with giant tracks….the tracks were the right size, but the body was dwarfed by them and looked a little “weedy” for my biggerised marines.
The solution I decided on was to widen and lengthen the body to bring it more into proportion with the track units. With this in mind I decided to order all the bits I need and to blog the ongoing progress.
Now please be aware that I actually started this project about 6 weeks ago, and have been taking photos at various points along the way. This means that the model is almost near completion,
I thought others might be interested in the thought and building processes behind it.
Construction
For this I started by trimming down the land raider interior side panels, removing all the material that would normally have formed the track guard, using the recesses as a guide. This would mean that, when assembled, I’d have a hull shaped box that I could attach the track units to.
The sides were also spilt down the centre of the column so that they could be extended to the new length.
A new base plate was also constructed from a piece of 1mm plasticard. This had strips of 1.5mm plasticard glued to it in order to represent the floor grating.
At a later point I decided to remove a section at the front of the new base plate in order to fit the tread plate section from the original base plate.
The left side was then attached to the new base plate, with spacers being fitted so that the two sections of the side fitted correctly. The gap between the two sections was then plated over with some 0.5mm plasticard to add structure and re define the split column.
The right side was spaced in the same way at this point
I then added the engine plate along with a plasticard spacer to the back
Next came the external engine and exhausts. These were assembled as normal and then widened by adding a spacer to each side
This was then attached to the hull assembly Note the 2 pieces of sprue used as spacers for the side, and the extra strip of plasticard glued to the end before the exhausts were attached. This was because I stupidly forgot that the interior engine needed to fit into the gap in the exhaust plate, and because I only spaced it on one side, it was off centre. The easiest solution was to push the exhausts back by 1mm
Hull before detailing
This photo (with the Baneblade tracks roughly in place) show how the top plate was split and extended. It also shows the extended assault ramp (which is two assault ramps split and glued together)
Both track units were then attached to the hull along with all the fittings so that the assault ramp opens and closes.
For the sponsons and side hatches I decided to use the cut down remains of the outside track units from the Landraider kit. Again using the armour panel lines as guides the excess material was removed, and then the panel inverted and attached to pre-cut grooves in the Baneblade track units so that the rear doors lined up.
The interior was then painted and weathered before everything was glued into place.
I used a 60:40 mixture of Dheneb stone and Graveyard Earth for the base colour, washing it with a 10:10:80 mix of water: Badab Black: Devlan Mud. The tread plate on the assault ramp was painted with a thinned mixture of Tin Bitz: Boltgun Metal: Chaos Black before being washed with the same mixture. Paint chips were applied using a sponge and a mixture of Scorched Brown and Codex Grey before the edges which would have the most wear were drybrushed with the metal mixture.
With the sponsons in place I then set about the task of plating all the open areas with plasticard. This was fairly straight forward thanks to the symmetrical design of the tank, and with some judicious use of milliput as a filler and some fine sand paper this is the current position.
A few extra details have been added, like the sensor next to the rear hatch, the top plate detail, handles and hinges on the driver’s hatch (which I decided to model without the turret ring so as to reduce the obstructions on the top hull and allow the viewer to focus on the crewman using the rear hatch), the cowling over the headlights (which are using the Baneblade body, but the lights from the Landraider) and the storm bolter mount.
I’ve also decided (and started) to carry the Baneblade’s rivet theme. To me the World Eaters were very much like the Deathguard when it came to aesthetics, preferring brute force and function over from.
Finally a comparison shot with a normal sized marine,
And one of my truescaled marines
Well that’s it so far. Still lots to do, but ay feed back/thoughts/help would be appreciated
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 10:18:57
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Noble of the Alter Kindred
United Kingdom
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Uber nice
great work thus far Binary
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 12:07:03
Subject: Re:truescale Land Raider
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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Very nice
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 12:09:35
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Leader of the Sept
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That is pretty brutal. Nice one
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 12:17:41
Subject: Re:truescale Land Raider
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Wow. Simply wow. I mean that towards your truscale marines on the posted link as well. That army will look awesome on the table
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 12:24:29
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Lord of the Fleet
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Looks excellent. Very rare to see true scaled vehicles!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 12:26:13
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Shroomin Brain Boy
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about time someone took the truescale theme to the next step... there is defiatly a need for truescale armor in the hobby... those ridiculous underscaled tanks gives me headaches all over...
been meaning to scratchbuilt my own tanks ever sice i purchased a predator for my Sm chapter and despaired at their puny size...
cool look and the rivets make it way more classy looking!
vik
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 12:55:30
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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That is damn impressive and very well executed! i'll be waiting for more updates on this one for sure! and your true scale marines are fantastic, that's a lot of patience right there!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 13:17:00
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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Truly Epic !!! Great looking project ill be keeping a close eye on your thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 13:19:08
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Looks great! I love how you just use two land raider doors cut in half to make on big one
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 14:25:56
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sweet! looks alot more realistically proportioned as well as sized. Most modern tanks share your raider's compartively low profile. Although it is ace i cant help feeling it aint quite tall enough, i like the idea of the tank being 8 or so metres tall rather than ~5.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 19:14:13
Subject: Re:truescale Land Raider
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Food for a Giant Fenrisian Wolf
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This is really, really cool. As stated it does look a lot more like a real tank than the GW models, can't wait to see it with the guns, is it a standard Land Raider, or a Crusader or Redeemer variant?
I also have to say I love the baneblade tracks on it, makes it look a lot more... meaty is the best word I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 20:04:57
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Regular Dakkanaut
New York, Technocratic People's Republic of Vinnland
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Things looks fantastic, excellent scratchbuilding to trick it out.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 20:05:44
Subject: Re:truescale Land Raider
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Strategizing Grey Knight Chapter Master
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Looks awesome, loving the attention to detail!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 20:17:23
Subject: Re:truescale Land Raider
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Fixture of Dakka
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Wow, that is one brutal mother of a tank. I like it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 20:24:39
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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This is simply astonishing. Fantastic work, and if you don't win 'Armies on Parade' I suggest you unleash your creation on the nearest judge. I'd be frightened.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 21:42:39
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
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Viktor von Domm wrote:about time someone took the truescale theme to the next step... there is defiatly a need for truescale armor in the hobby... those ridiculous underscaled tanks gives me headaches all over...
To right since when has an ork trukk been the same height as a land raider
Loving the work, is very awesome, looks the right size as well, next project, true scale baneblade
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 22:18:19
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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I'm very impressed. That is looking very, very good. I'll be subscribing. Keep up the good work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 23:27:38
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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This is looking great. Your plasticard work has meshed nicely with the Baneblade tracks and the rivets tie it all together.
Keep it up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 23:46:22
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Blood Angel Chapter Master with Wings
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Binary that's an amazing job! You make a fine addition to Dakka sir, I hope to learn a lot from watching you work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 07:18:08
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Renegade Kan Killin Orks
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Very cool, very well build. Incredible heavy tank....
Just took the time to skim through a few of your other blogs. Fantastic work across the board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/22 08:07:03
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Infiltrating Oniwaban
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Brilliant! And are you indeed not only putting together truescale armor, but doing it with interior detailing? WOW. Can't wait to see this done!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 17:01:19
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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The New Miss Macross!
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very cool work so far! i've seen a few baneraider pics online and i agree doing the extended cab is definitely better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 17:05:06
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Very nice - looking forward to seeing this finished
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:07:09
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Im also looking forward to a finished product! Great work
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:15:58
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Crazy Marauder Horseman
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Yeah, I guess that things alright....if by "alright" you mean "awesome"! Kudos, mate. Keep up the good work and all that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:43:10
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Wow, i'm stealing this idea!
Of course mine will be terrible and bodged together from bits, BUT THE SPIRIT WILL BE THERE!
great job
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:45:48
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Speedy Swiftclaw Biker
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Looks really good next to that normal marine. You'd think for $62.00 GW could make the land raider at least the correct size to put actual models into.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:59:09
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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Helpful Sophotect
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I don't want to sound too negative, but I think it is too small.
The normal Land Raider model which is supposed to be able to carry ten, twelve or even sixteen models cannot really be believed to do so when you put a normal marine model beside it.
Yours does the same with your own truescale marine. With your model, I could believe ten or maybe twelve of the normal guys to fit into it. But not ten or more of the truescale marine shown in the next picture.
So I think if you really want realistic scale, you need to build an even bigger one and use this one for non-truescale marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/24 05:51:23
Subject: truescale Land Raider
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It is amazing.
I do see Skylifter's point, though. 40k vehicles are a somewhat smaller scale than the infantry. Your LR looks true-scaled next to a regular SM, but regular-GW-standard-mismatch-of-scales next to your sweet truscale SM.
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