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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/01 11:32:21
	  
	    Subject: Bringing Back The Rebellion: The Grots Rebuild! 
	
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                            Veteran Wolf Guard Squad Leader
	 
 
 
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									Scarper wrote:Those squig tanks are my favourite thing you've done so far. Thanks for sharing them!  
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/03 00:26:53
	  
	    Subject: Re:Bringing Back The Rebellion: The Grots Rebuild! 
	
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									I've just posted the army list on the forum for the Open War tournament and I'm looking for feedback which I'm hoping you guys can provide. It's important because you've all seen the models on this thread so you'll be able to balance the unit's appearance with effectiveness.
  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/04 01:07:05
	  
	    Subject: Re:Bringing Back The Rebellion: The Grots Rebuild! 
	
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                            Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
	 
 
 
	
	
	 
	
 
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									Ok, first time poster and I have to say this is the most awesome and dedicated converted army I have yet seen. And this takes into account the guard army I saw that was built and painted by a guy using only his feet.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/04 17:08:59
	  
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									They look more like an elite military force than a rebellion.maybe make a couple of sqauds with home made bombs,homemade weapons,guerilla traps etc?
  
  its enough to make such a cool concept army, but to put in the effort to draw pictures and comics, this thread is just great!
  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/04 20:18:19
	  
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									Those Squig Walkers are just fabulous. Brilliant!
  
  Having a look through your blog has really helped me with my current project (I needed some small plastic hands holding big ol pistols and really had not thought about the plastic grots until now).
  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/04 20:39:08
	  
	    Subject: Re:Bringing Back The Rebellion: The Grots Rebuild! 
	
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									Da Boyz Need An Outpost Dey Do?
 I've ran into a bit of trouble, I found myself in need of another chimera. However I've only got enough doom-vee parts left to make another 4 and to be honest I'm not up for scavenging more of those wheels and side panels for a 6th vehicle that will be only used in 1750 games.
 
  But I've had an idea; this chimera is designed to be more of a bunker as it will contain a vet squad with a missile and 3 grenade launchers and camp on an objective at the back of the field while providing support. 
 
  So the answer is simple create a mobile outpost for the grots. All the other big tanks are designed to be vehicle first and base second (such as barracks, medical centre and tech lab). Now I find myself wanting to design a tank that is base first and vehicle second something that the grots would send out and deploy as an outpost. 
 
   
  (something like this but not so big)
  
 
 So far I’ve come up with one idea which is to build a small bunker on the top of a chimera above the hatch behind the turret and use the leftover leman russ sponsons to create add-on bunkers that can be placed on the side of the vehicle. Add a few searchlights, a comm array and a flag and you’ve got yourself a grot base. 
  Should the tank need to move it’s only natural that a grot would leap for the driver’s seat and floor it leaving the attachments behind.
 
  Either way it should be a fun and interesting tank to build, s o what do you think to idea, is it creative or just a little too crazy?
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/04 21:25:56
	  
	    Subject: Bringing Back The Rebellion: The Grots Rebuild! 
	
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									Creative, crazy and a brilliant idea, so DO  IT!    good luck
							  
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/04 21:39:54
	  
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									Yep that's a crazy idea Proiteus. Hmm, wait a minute isn't a grot army a crazy idea? Squig tanks, damn they sound crazy.      
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/04 21:44:02
	  
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									Make sure to put a nice big gun turret on. Gotta have more dakka.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/04 23:35:25
	  
	    Subject: Re:Bringing Back The Rebellion: The Grots Rebuild! 
	
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									What about something like this but with normal guard tracks with extra armour on the sides using plasticard to copy the  FW designs and adding a lookout deck on the top at the back?
 
   
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/05 00:01:54
	  
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									Looks good. Adding the searchlights/comms to the lookout deck should be ace. If the sponsoons are attached to the sides (magnets?) perhaps double-width tracks may indicate theres a bit more room inside as befits a more 'basey' type vehicle. Or that may just be me as I always like double tracks   
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/05 02:01:45
	  
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									I like the sound of your newest creation!
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/05 05:38:11
	  
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									I would swipe some landraider tracks and use them 
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/05 06:34:39
	  
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									So, you're thinking something similar to the  SoB rhino conversion that  FW sells, the Repressor, but built off a chimera chassis instead of rhino?
 
   
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/05 15:14:46
	  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/05 19:36:30
	  
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									I've been thinking today that I might be going a little bit too far with this conversion idea. It's one of my golden conversion rules to never make things complicated and confusing for my opponent, and having 2 tanks that look different but represent the same vehcile seems to be just that, even if I'm using the chimera turret on both of them.
  
  If it weren't for the fact this tank is being built for use in a 1750pt tournament at Warhammer World I'd do it, but with it being competitive I'm having my doubts about creating it? What do you think?
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/05 21:21:46
	  
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									That's one way of looking at it, and convenience is an important aspect for an opponent, however, given your skill at conversion and the way you've already made the existing Doom-Vee's fit in with the IG look I don't think it should be an issue. Also, if your opponent was able to follow the "counts-as" of your Machine Cult army, this shouldn't bee too much of an issue. 
  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/05 21:22:35
	  
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									Well, I'm not really a player these days, and i've never done the tourney thing, but I get your concerns, and agree you probably don't want it too different from the others in this case. That's a shame and hopefully some of the tournament players will chip in and say it's not an issue as I would like to see where you take this. If you decide it's a no-go how about a doom-vee but with tracks instead of wheels, not too different and the addition of comms and searchlight still feasible.The same basic vehicle design, just a differing propulsion unit, that should be acceptable, after all it works for trukks and warbikes   
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/06 00:07:19
	  
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									do it. Viva the rebellion!! Its one of those ideas that will never be forgotten as long as there is an internet
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/06 12:46:55
	  
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									you should have the two diffrent vehicles , as long as you write what they are on paper you're opponent has a tuff time arguing with it
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/06 16:38:20
	  
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									I kinda agree with you. Even if it's on paper, in game it might be hard for them to remember. 
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/06 17:06:26
	  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/06 18:03:41
	  
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									It's been five pages since you posted a comic! I demand more comics!
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/06 18:09:21
	  
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									^ words to that.
  
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/06 19:57:52
	  
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									Aduro wrote:It's been five pages since you posted a comic! I demand more comics!  
 
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/06 20:13:35
	  
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									I vote in favor of the mobile pillbox chimera.
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/08 08:32:18
	  
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									Nowlan wrote:I vote in favor of the mobile pillbox chimera.  
 
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  So I’ve decided after the doubles tournament to alter the first Doom-Vee for long range combat; this means changing the flamer for a heavy bolter, replacing the crates with a missile silo and having a grot sniper in the look out point. I’ll also try and find one of the old curved dozer blades to go on the front instead of the ram. This way the smaller window won’t be an issue and the five Doom-Vees at the front which I use more often will all look the same.
 
							  
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  9015/01/02 22:00:15
	  
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									Sounds good, you going to be able to get wheels for the extra one?
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/08 18:16:00
	  
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									awe i was looking forward for the command tank, maybe at some other point that'll be an option. 
							 
							
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		![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif)  2010/08/09 22:35:54
	  
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									Well since I have a lot more people following this log than any of the other forums I'll thought I'd ask you guys first so...
  
  Anyone like to suggest a name for the long range Doom-vee who job is to see at the back and sit on the objective?
  
  So far I've had 'Da Bunka' & 'Bak Up'
							 
							
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