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Hi Guys, After a long break from modelling I'm back and ready to start work on my beloved SM scouts. I've never been a massive fan of Space marine preffering Imperial Guard for the gritty underdog feel,but I love the scout models.This army idea has been brewing for a while but It will take a while to get stuff done due to the inevitable family/work responsibilities blah,blah.
I'm not great with the Fluff but the rough idea behind it would be: a new founding chapter who have been ravaged by hundreds of years of defeats at the hands of various invading armies the cahpater finds itself with little or on marine trained or equiped with full power armour. the Neophytes are the core of the army let by a hand full of experienced scout Masters.
The chapter find themselves beseiged on a planet of ruined city scapes.their vehicles and armour show the wear and tear of a prolonged urban war with very few supply ships making it through the orbital blockade to replenish supplies.
I'll be basing colour schemes on an urban theme, blacks/greys/green, looking to give myself the chance to learn new painting skills mainly with armour weathering ,mud and dust treatments etc.
if anyone has any tips on thes etechniques I'd love to hear them. it'sprobaly not going to be a game ready army but you never know.
any feedback would be glady recieved.
keep your eyes peeled for new bits and bobs.

Cheers

Here the first piece in the Army, a heavy weapons quad.I've never like the normal attachk bike so wanted to create a more mobile 4wd version. This one will will have a scout either spotting or sniping not sure yet.plan is to have the scout leaning on the side rather than riding it. I did fancy doing another one with the scout with his feet up on the handlebars resting. with the idea that as a scout /sniper a long time is spent just waiting in position. just an idea.
the bike has a lot of painting to do so very much WIP but I wanted to get started on the weathering and damage. let me know what you think so far.
trying to go for a german WWII armour look (sort of).

That looks awesome, did you use the attack bike as a basis or 2 bikes?

two standard bikes with bits from a IG sentinal as well as my bitz box. Thanks

Cool. I was thinking of something similar with a sentinel cockpit turned into a sidecar but what are you counting the AC as?

Not really planning to game but My thinking was it would count as a Heavy Bolter. plans are to do a secong with a Melta,p[erhaps utilising the Flamer from the sentinel.I woudl like to keep the army "legal" but I'd rather go for aesthetics first.

Looking pretty sharp so far

Yeah, have you got any IG heavy flamers with the double nozzle thing>

The Heavy Flamer that comes with the sentinels looks the business.
I just need to work out some conversions for the standard troops.
I have a bunch of scout painted already so these will need stripped before they can be done with the new urban look.
trying to get inspiration at the moment from US army recon pics etc.

That quad looks awesome. I especially like the idea of a none combat posed Marine for a change! For Urban bases random lumps of clipped sprue are your friend. I also like to use random gubbins especially tubing and wires. I found that a browse through a big DIY shop with an open mind after random bits of plastic helps. Another element I use is crushed pastels and gravel as basing colours giving a dust of ages feel. I work on demolition sites and the dust is an ever present feature of destroyed buildings.

Llamahead wrote:That quad looks awesome. I especially like the idea of a none combat posed Marine for a change! For Urban bases random lumps of clipped sprue are your friend. I also like to use random gubbins especially tubing and wires. I found that a browse through a big DIY shop with an open mind after random bits of plastic helps. Another element I use is crushed pastels and gravel as basing colours giving a dust of ages feel. I work on demolition sites and the dust is an ever present feature of destroyed buildings.

Brilliant thanks mate, I need to get my hands on some gravel and stuff.when you say pastels ,do you mean blackboard chalk/artists pastels.I'll probably try and base it on a lareg circular base with rubble.

I've got my thinking cap on for the scout conversions.

thanks again

Been looking at new ideas for the scout conversions. keeping wit hthe whole city fighting German army style I've spotted some head from the "secrets of the third reich" miniatures. not sure how these will turn out on scouts ,may be better on imperial guard but I like the dirty urban feel.

also found this pic of the head tattoo and thought it would be a cool addition to bald scout heads if I can pull it off.This is actually a real tat, some folk need to get a grip.
don't want it feeling like a neo nazi army but let me know what you think.

hopefully be using some IG parts for the scouts as well, it may end up feeling more like an IG army but that's not a bad thing.

pic of the quad pilot coming up soon,I've opted for a bolt pistol on him bit may revert to a sniper rifle. sniper rifle just didn't feel right on a biker.you guys may differ.

pics coming tonight

Double-eagle tattoo... Is it better or worse to claim it's an homage to the Roman Empire?

The bike looks cool by the way. I don't have any real thoughts on it other than it looks neat and it's original.

Bike is fantastic

Napalm wrote:Double-eagle tattoo... Is it better or worse to claim it's an homage to the Roman Empire?

It's better than claiming it's anything to do with nazi symbolism, but the skinhead and earings don't help.

So I've purchased the heads, just waiting for them to get posted to me. so I have a theme sorted for the characters. more modelling to be done over the next couple of days,family permitting.

done a wee bit more work on the attach quad pilot. he's spotting for targets while keeping his bolt pistol handy . waiting on the german army heads coming.
the gas mask heads will be used for a hardcore an close combat based squad, shotguns,blades etc.

heavy bolter body is for a squad moving up into position, failry laid back, slung bolters .

trip to GW at the end of the week for more scouts and maybe catachan or cadians to add some more character.

does anyone think i'll have an issue with the general size of the cadian parts adding them to scouts,catachans look a bit bulkier .?

unsure how the new heads will work along side the GW heads,we'll find out I suppose

tidying up of GS to be done.

dude, that's extremely cool man! I love it!

A bit more done on the heavy bolter scout, the GS needs a tidy again,currently drying. re positioned the both arems and added gs to the bottom of the torso to tilt the body,looking more like he's lugging a heavy load.carrying ammo packs . I'll do the rest of the squad in a similar style.
still waiting on the heads. probably give these guys field forage caps with peaks.

hope you like.

I have a sentinal needing built but can't ecide what to do with it, covert it to count as a draednought for the scouts or use it in a diorama of sorts.always wanted to do a team of goblind over running a sentinal with stick bombs ,hanging of it as it flails around trying to shake them off.

also have a dreanought to play with. the aim with this will be to have it very damaged to show the age of it,the dread having survived whilst the rest of the marines dies over hundreds of years street fighting,leaving just the young hardened scouts to wage a desperate and hidden war.

comments more than welcome, I appreaciate it aint that excitingtill I start painting these guys.

can't decide on colour but might try and mix up the unifrm colour to show the scout personalising the gear.these guys will obviously be less disciplined than regular marines.

This fixes it. I am definitely getting some SM scouts. The models look great, I like the lighter SM armour.
What you're doing with them is fantastic, too. What you have up so far looks great, and the themes for the squads sound awesome. I can't wait to see an army of these guys.

The color choices remind me of Red vs. Blue. "It's not pink, dude!"

a wee bit more work on the bolter squad.legs & arms repositioned to give more movement. Hope you like them.still awaiting heads.started to add some rubble(sprue clippings) to the bases.

heres another wee gem. always like Gretchin/Goblins and fancied adding one to this army. This guy is a goblin tracker/spotter ,strange I know but the fluff goes something like:

During the years of fighting the Gretchin ,sick of years of being pushed around by the Orks they managed to assist the Scouts in overthrowing the Orks.The Scouts grudgingly agreed and since those days the Gretchin have tagged along with the scouts, assisting and spotting where they can. this obviously would never happen with a fully fledged chapter but due to the scouts having been so depleated over the years their cunning nature has allowed them to employ many tactics not normally seen.

or something like that.

anyway this little guy is armed to the teeth with various, tried to add as many imperial bits and bobs to him to show his change in allegiance. let me know what you think. just thought it was a nice idea. In a simlliar way that the us cavalry would use indian scouts and trackers.

let me know what you think guys.

I like the gretchin he's like a lucky mascot or something. what will he count as model wise? would you be able to use him as an actual scout?

DC-Ravenour: I've still to work that one out, I don't see why not. He's got a boltgun to keep his weapons legal as a scout.I'm not gaming at the moment so it's not a real problem but i'd like to think I can throw him in as scout,maybe even a sarge? he has a chain sword in his pack and a pistol.
My other thought was to do a full gretchin squad and count them as scouts.not sure if the novelty would be lost though.

Don't think a space marine would take orders grom a gretchin sarge under any surcumstances!

I hear what you're saying. I definately like the idea of the tracker though. If he could be in there as a stand alone special character it would be cool.
I'm a sucker for the underdogs in 40k, when I gamed it was never about winning always about having an army with character.
I had an all Snotling BB team back in the day. winning was always tricky.

That little guy is awesome. I love the little guys, too. Maybe you could have a grot tracker for all or most of the units. The grot... or is it a snot, with the telescope would be another good one for the role.

The running poses are coming out great. The armless one looks like he's about to jump over something.

So, I got the side cap and forage cap heads in last night. no pics as yet but got forage cap heads on the three running guys pictured. had to GS the knecks to beef them up a bit but they look cool at the moment.
swapped the head on the Quad bike guy as well for a side cap head with goggles.
I'll get some pics up tonight.

So here we go, got the heads on and started base coating, the Goblin tracker is still very much WIP but has inks,washes and some highlights done.
planning on all grey armour on the scouts but the uniform colour will vary depending on role and to show a degree of personalisation.
the biker has green unifrom at the moment , not sure on the tactical boys,snipers will probably have an amount of camo, assault boys(who are getting gas mask /forage caps heads will be black.

let me know what yo uthink of the heads ,I think they work.any suggestions welcome.

Nice work!

A bit more work done on the scouts. arms and slung bolter are on another guys for the running tactical/bolter squad.I think the pose works nicely,plenty movement.
the other guy is the first model for the Close combat squad.this guys is the shotgun boy,blowing the door and kicking it in,these guys are based around a sort of sas house clearance team.not sure what to put in his other hand.I was thinking about a bolt pistol, or potentially a grenade or blade. any suuggestions?
the gas mask face works quite nicely for these guys I think.
need to get another box of scouts to continue, but the aim is to have small elite squads with loads of character.
I have the sniper models but still a bit stuck on poses.I need to watch "Enemy at the gates" for a bit of inspiration.
more painting coming soon.
Cheers guys,this site has really given me a bit of drive after so long away , the wife his hating it!