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I still feel as though the Scourge from Dropzone Commander could easily hold their own (on the ground that is; we still have next to nothing on fleet information).

They are all but immune to long range weaponry thanks to advanced active countermeasures, utilize plasma weaponry more powerful than a railgun (that wreaks havoc on buildings, tanks, and infantry with equal ease), and whose speed would be a match for even the Eldar. What is worse is that they then co-opt what they defeat. As a neuro-parasitic lifeform they use captured individuals as hosts, keep industrial infrastructure for their continued war-effort, and find ways to utilize any technology that they can, that is better than their own, from the civilizations they conquer.

They are aggressive, unrelenting, and ruthless. They use their defeated enemies as livestock with which to make warriors to fight their next war. Meanwhile their hosts must watch powerless, trapped within their own heads, over an increased lifespan until the host mind is inevitably driven insane.

Imagine the pain of an implanted member of the Ecclesiarchy forced to burn a temple to the emperor with combined plasma fire from those he once called comrades?

Yep, these guys are even grimdark.

The Galactic Empire from Star Wars. You make a load of storm troopers who are all BS1, and balance it out by making an OP Darth Vader.

Seriously though, the universe is very well fleshed out, and I think most thing you could add would either have serious overlap or just wouldn't fit.

Though I would like to see human rebels more represented. Not chaos rebels, just normal rebels who view the empire as tyrannical. No, they will never hold their own as a faction, but rebellions happen.

I'd like to see a cyber organic race, not mechanicus but a more unified look than the bolted on feel mechanicum have

The Ur-Quan Kzer-Za and Kohr-Ah from Star Control 2. The Kzer-Za would seek to subjugate every other species (while the Kohr-Ah would simply do what almost everybody in 40k do, kill everybody. They'd go their separate ways and once in a while fight to see which one of them is right in their ways.

Dunno if they'd fit technologically though, I mean a lot of sci-fi civilizations are as babies compared to the Imperium of Man (anything Star Trek for example) while others have science that makes the Necrons look childish.

A lot of sci-fi doesn't even have land combat in such a scale as 40k has it, but instead starships are considered the ultimate military power. A lot of it is mostly humans, too, which would in no way fit into 40k.

I'd love to see the Founders - the Dominion - and their Jem'Hadar clash with the 40K races. Changelings who are utter masters of infiltration and strategy, and they command legions of doped up war-crazy hardasses.

The Founders actually have the capability, the resources, and most importantly, the experience to execute galactic conquest.

I wonder how the Command and Conquer Universes would do? (and im talking ground engagements, not space.... only guys with space stuff are the alien Scrin)

I think the GDI and their heavy weight weapons like the Mammoth Tank and Juggernaut walkers would be a force to be reckoned with alongside the rest of their tech.
They would be a strange fusion of Tau tech and the heavy firepower and tanks of the IG.

Nod would be a nuisance until they are tracked down and steam rolled in a direct engagement.
Im not sure what 40k thing the Nod would be analog to... perhaps some strange Chaos forces at most but with varying levels of tech with a lot of Hit and run tactics.

the Scrin would be interesting with their space craft and insectoid like troops and "vehicles"
Like... Tyranids + Necrons..... I dunno...


Why leave out Tiberium 4? it was aweful that's why, but the upgraded tech would still be a powerful force in 40k.

Red Alert might not fair the best but it would be interesting...

Apocolypse tanks duking it out with Baneblade, Mirage tanks ambushing convoys, King Oni's Beating on Warhounds etc.


Generals.... Im not sure, they might all survive combat with a PDF but im not 100% if they would survive the onslaught of the IG or SM or whatever.
Not even the newer ones in "command and conquer."

Humans from Starship Troopers, the book not the popcorn movie, would work damned well in the 40k universe. But I suppose Tau really already have most of the tech and feel of that federation.

Funny, now that I think about it most of the scifi books I am familiar with have humans as pretty much the only species. Its the interaction between civilizations that matters.

 Wyzilla wrote:
As for the Culture, they become a Slaanesh cult in five seconds flat. They'd stomp everyone in realspace silly, but probably end up falling to Chaos or the Minds having to wage a constant war against Chaos taint.

The Culture humans would probably fall to Slaanesh (or, more likely, Slaanesh would fall to the Culture) as soon as they heard about all those new partying opportunities. But that wouldn't really make any difference. The strength of the Culture is its machines, the humans just stick around because life is fun. And there's absolutely no way Chaos is ever going to corrupt a Mind, it just doesn't have anything to offer a god-like AI with firepower that can effortlessly destroy whole 40k fleets in microseconds and such an absurd level of intelligence and processing power that simulating entire universes from fundamental principles qualifies as "light entertainment". Remember, the main reason Minds don't ascend to godhood and depart the physical universe entirely is their moral belief in an obligation to help the poor lesser beings.

So, most likely outcome: the Culture civilians all experiment with Chaos worship for a while because it's the latest fad, the ship's Mind respects their life choices and locks them in a nice safe room where they can't hurt anyone.

 da001 wrote:
I am gonna say my favorite faction from a similar setting.

Skaven

No I don´t mean Hrud, Hrud are xenos. Skaven are a Beastmen subtype. They are somehow humans or half-humans. Mutants. They are cute, their background fits the setting, have a nice personality and lovely-looking models.

Skaven Skaven Skaven

I love Skaven. I always imagined them as subterranean Stalinists for some reason....but the true joy of playing Skaven is the gloriously unreliable weapons that may annihilate the enemy or your own guys, but, hey, you always have more guys so who cares?

Pretty easy to do a 40K equivalent with kludged-together, semi-functional archeotech the rat-men salvaged from the deepest, long-abandoned layers of the underhive.

Bran Dawri wrote:
Protectors from Niven's Known Space.
Puppeteers from the same universe would also be quite interesting.

This.

I would love to see the puppeteers and the protectors.

Oh, also: the crazy kung-fu cyborgs from Battle Angel Alita (aka Gunm), especially Last Order. You would have a great mix of Monstrous Creatures for heavy support and petite cyborg women capable of killing squads in one round for elites. Seriously, a Panzer Kunst master seems to have something like WS8 A8 I8....

 Peregrine wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:
As for the Culture, they become a Slaanesh cult in five seconds flat. They'd stomp everyone in realspace silly, but probably end up falling to Chaos or the Minds having to wage a constant war against Chaos taint.

The Culture humans would probably fall to Slaanesh (or, more likely, Slaanesh would fall to the Culture) as soon as they heard about all those new partying opportunities. But that wouldn't really make any difference. The strength of the Culture is its machines, the humans just stick around because life is fun. And there's absolutely no way Chaos is ever going to corrupt a Mind, it just doesn't have anything to offer a god-like AI with firepower that can effortlessly destroy whole 40k fleets in microseconds and such an absurd level of intelligence and processing power that simulating entire universes from fundamental principles qualifies as "light entertainment". Remember, the main reason Minds don't ascend to godhood and depart the physical universe entirely is their moral belief in an obligation to help the poor lesser beings.

So, most likely outcome: the Culture civilians all experiment with Chaos worship for a while because it's the latest fad, the ship's Mind respects their life choices and locks them in a nice safe room where they can't hurt anyone.

Pretty much. The only thing that might happen to a Mind is scrapcode, only it's largely undefined and completely vague and we don't know how it works. Otherwise they'd likely just lock them up as stated for them to toy with Slaanesh worship. Although it might become more than a fad- with the whole mutation that creates an additional hypersensitive thousand senses all of which are constantly pumped with a stream of ecstasy/pain and toying around with the warp. Maybe even alter Slaanesh so it's a tad less violent from the Culture being the sole influence on the warp after both stomping the other factions into the ground and assimilating some of them. I imagine they'd get along well with the Eldar and might use them on an adviser level while making a deal to rebuild their race.

A better questions would be what they make of the whole GEOM situation.

My vote would be Farscape Peacekeeper's .They are powerful and aren't afraid of technology.

Coneheads! Oh wait, there's already Eldar. Damnit.

Has anyone here played X-COM: Enemy Unkown?
It has a large variety of allies but I would focus on Mutons.

It's just something this game lacks: xenos with high/semi good toughness and good technology (Wraiguard aside).
Kind of Terminators for those who don't want to play SM.

Mutons as Troops (Range 18" plasma gun for each) where you can uprgade one member of the Squad as a Berserker (dual LC's).
Muton Elites as Elites choice (duh!) with some long-range weaponry.
Chryssalids for FA and Sectopods as a HS Walkers.

 Formosa wrote:
I'd like to see a cyber organic race, not mechanicus but a more unified look than the bolted on feel mechanicum have

I'd second this. Living machines, perhaps something halfway between the Combine and Geth.

The Great Evil from the movie The Fifth Element

I'm curious to see how the collective races of 40k would manage to defeat an ancient immortal evil that can only be banished with the power of love “literally”.

Yeah, that whole "power of love" thing ain't gonna happen....

It's a pretty insipid song, but banishing evil? I don't think it's that bad.

Forerunners, or even better the Flood from Halo.

Or if your going to bring the Covenant in, just the Grunts.. Guardsmen need a race they can destroy without any armoured support, just Lasguns.

davethepak wrote:

Bran Dawri wrote:
Protectors from Niven's Known Space.
Puppeteers from the same universe would also be quite interesting.

This.

I would love to see the puppeteers and the protectors.

Wouldn't the Puppeteers all flee in fear - I mean they find their own universe scary - the 40k one would be intolerable - even for the insane ones?

Protectors would be interesting

Ewoks.

I believe the Tyranids would enjoy eating teddy bears.

Seriously though, the Divine Shadow from Lexx would be an interesting enemy. It is a planet size worm with pseudo magical powers, and tricked the whole of humanity into treating it as their god, just so he can feed on them at a later date.

Basically what the God Emperor of Mankind would be like if he were a Tyranid.

That's... a little tricky to represent on the tabletop....


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I guess you could give the planet-sized worm Infiltrate (because you don't realize you're on it) and allow it a 36' template (that's 36 feet, not inches) that inflicts a Strength D hit on everything under it with no chance to save....

The Borg are already in 40k. It's just after consuming the StarCraft galaxy, they look a bit different.

 SisterSydney wrote:
That's... a little tricky to represent on the tabletop....


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I guess you could give the planet-sized worm Infiltrate (because you don't realize you're on it) and allow it a 36' template (that's 36 feet, not inches) that inflicts a Strength D hit on everything under it with no chance to save....

Well...it only became a planet sized worm in the last episode of the first season, when it was fully awakened after

Prior to that, it was just a human corpse that was lobotomized and after some sort of strange techno-religious ritual, animated it and took over it's brain. Oddly enough, despite being lobotomized, the human corpse's brain was still mainly functional, and could even make decisions on it's own. Lexx is weird like that.

Here's what he looked like before becoming a giant bug, and how he possessed bodies




This is his true form



You can see the planet it's emerging from. That was the seat of its empire, the League of 200,000 Planets.

He's pretty much like what the Emperor of Mankind would be like if he absolutely hated humanity.

The Cult of His Divine Shadow is very 40k as is much of that show - their tech and the slightly dubious reliability of their semi-organic tech is very Imerpium of Man

Just introduced a friend to Lexx which she is enjoying

great show

Wasn't it 20,000 planets?

 Mr Morden wrote:
The Cult of His Divine Shadow is very 40k as is much of that show - their tech and the slightly dubious reliability of their semi-organic tech is very Imerpium of Man

Just introduced a friend to Lexx which she is enjoying

great show

I know! It's amazing, easily one of the more unique Sci-Fi shows I have seen ^^

Derp, I mistyped. It was indeed 200,000 Planets. That's a lot of sacrifices to the Gigashadow.

Wow... yeah, I see the similarity to the Imperium in terms of literally gruesome and literally malfunctioning machinery of justice....

starfox. Various cuddly creatures in flying starships, I'd buy it.

The Force from The Forever War. Relativity is boss unless you're the one being rammed by a drone travelling at 0.9c.