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2011/02/07 20:59:30
Subject: Re:neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Tadpole tank conversion wip
Hey dakka , Bonan vesperon ( Esperanto - Good evening)
@Perkustin hey matey, i have been burning the candle at both ends receantly and i still dont feel like i am getting enough work done. Thanks , i did try and make it 40k without losing that ww1 feel , i didnt want it becoming too futuristic or too archaic , its quite tricky i find. your right about the tank commander if i do use one it will be removable , but i think i prefer it without now , so cheers. The weapon is a radar thingymybob from the 40k bastion set.
Traitor " okay ,...just let me see what time iam dying with my custom watch...."
Tank commander " No! "
Traitor "Okay, can i write a farewell letter to my fiance with this specialy built pen....."
Tank commnader " No"
Traitor " alrighty then, maybe i could just ......BZZZZZPTPFF! ARrrhh.....!
Tank commander " arh bugger i forgot the blasted countdown , and the whole commence firing deathray speach! "
@Silver , them young nobles gotta know how to dress to catch them heiress's at all those fancy masked balls you know yeah i was going to do something with the interior , but had a look at the plans on how it should look and bottled it
@CTGAMER , sorry matey , i dont have this one and i have never owned a land raider , if they are the same as the tadpole, am iam not saying they are. they are about the width of the rhino.
@Vik i thought tesla as well , but the sound of the name i dont like for 40k . it reminds me of victorians , i think because it has his nameas the the thing. i realise that sounds strange when iam using napoleonics figures and ww1 tanks i suppose it could be a new dark age tesla ! i corrected the info link for the conversion beamer as well. But all that fluff is relatively new , when first collected the marines could be equiped with nearly any weapon, and conversion beamers and other exotic weapons were abound ! , its only now that the fluff has added it for inquisitors only . Besides i think this tank is so old it could well have belonged to an inquisitor having said that i still havent decide what the weapon will be.
@Hey Chibi ,glad you like
@ Manoknok. Thanks manoknok. i have really enjoyed this build , even if it has taken me from painting
So the tank crew take a well earned rest ,shirking their duties to enjoy the spectacle of a brute strength arm wrestle, whilst refitting the damaged sponsons of the ancient prototype valdor tank hunter.
oh boy do i get sentimental and envious at the sight of your tank fully built in the setting sun (?)...that is a true beauty...
loved the armwrestling scene was fun to see the two officers aproaching and the probably haranguing the viewers and challengers alike for their lazyness...again great storrytelling and the camerangles are spot on!!!!
i just recently takled to shrike about the cane wielding officer arm, i will buy thsi special armk on ebay as it is a real hearets disire to get that thing for my next comander mini...a must have...
and i hope i will be the first to spot that: a lveley conversion of the minisculed level: the amocrate sporting two bolterbags standing on the ground right before the wrestlers... that is such a coooool idea! i cant compose myself for a million here! consider that idea stolen no matter what you may be angry about me^^ rember copying is the easiest way to show flattery^^
That was hilarious!!!! The blatant gambling, the yawning man, the arm wrestling and then "drop and give me 50 and go say 200 hail emperors in the shrine or you will be cleaning the heads with your tongue!!"
Sweet! now that I see it, you have a nice superheavy for your army that fit's it's theme very well!
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
2011/02/08 00:06:43
Subject: Re:neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Tadpole tank conversion wip
@ Chibi , cheers matey , i took a break from building the tank as much as they did It took me and age to work out what PDQ meant is it pretty damb quick
@But sir i have just eaten i really enjoyed making this piece , it was cool trying to figure the poses, good idea getting the billy club , its really characterfull , i got mine form bits and kits http://www.bitsandkits.co.uk/cadian-command-arm-with-swagger-stick-p-4418.html 25 pence a bargain! and deel free to make that conversion of the bolter box , mine was just covering something up thanks agin Vik
@Perky , its funny you did that because i was trying to find a pic of the ipad , and i made it but after but i couldnt upload without dirupting the sequence and the colour i want for the tank is kinda dirty old Ancient forgotten relic , i think. not a single colour as such more a blend of earthy metalic colours . with some bright graphics to make it pop , oh and lots of mud!
@Weety Glad you like i didnt realise that guy was yawning until i looked again , i assumed he was shouting , but after you mentioned it , it just looked right
@shazo Thanks Mate , i hope the paint job will tie it in a bit more. i need more sunlight and new lithium batteries for my camera, as i have used all the kids joypad batteries and am on to the vid cam again
@MonkeyThanks Monkey
@Whoa great praise indeed now if only they were painted
@the good green Thnaks , its comming together now , if only i had someone to play with
So thanks for all the lovely comments peeps, i do enjoy telling stories if you hadn't already guessed I have started the paint work for the tadpole conversion aka prototype Valdor aka The Arclight , i wanted a muted and old colour scheme , one that would blend in , nice and subtle, the last time i painted something this size , was the on rails gun , and i was dissapointed with the gun itself , the sheild and the housing. this time i did a bit of research into weathering , i found some great techniques here. http://site.scratchmod.com/Home.php but unfortunately all of his use either powder pigments , or a airspray gun. I have neither but i do have loads of pastels and lots of time. I tried to copy his techniques using my powdered pastels and water , i was pleasantly suprised by the results , i also tried the hairspray/salt technique , but i think it really really needs an airbrush for this, so you dont disturb the crystals.
i did however persist, and found i could paint on a brown / black undercoat , for rust .. and then put pastel shaving directly over the top , mixed with a little wash , these made good rust colours, i also tried out using oil pastels on Bailey's rhino , which had been painted with gloss, red spray paint , , i got good results using wash and pastel podwer over the smudged in oil pastels. Its a simple process and i think it looks okay. For the Arclight i first went with a steel blue look , but after the hairspray and salt , i dappled catachan green over for a faded camo effect.
its no where near as good as if it was with an airbrush and expensive pigments , but i did enjoy experimenting.
sorry if the pics are a bit dark will pist some tommorow in the daylight when i do the otherside.
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2011/02/09 23:09:16
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Tadpole /Valdor tank conversion with weathering paint effects wip
That tank looks like it has been through hell! Great rust and weather effects!
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
2011/02/10 10:00:09
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Tadpole /Valdor tank conversion with weathering paint effects wip
really cool looking tanks you got, the rhino was a great apetizer for the main meal...tadpole surprise... you really have to do a deepsea diorama one day...that look was initself priceless. after your prutal treatment i actually flinched at what horrors you comitted to the tank...gosh that must have hurt you evenly too as much as it did the tank...but all is well that ends well so they say and rightfully so as the nearly finished tank looks ...loss for words again... do yourself and of course us a favor and give your fandom a nice coupla pics form outside the bunk so that we better can pareciate your painting kung fu...
your not so secret admirer Vik
btw i know what you covered up with that amobox^^ got the same prob here in my bitsbox too...seems we both cant make both end meets^^ (meaning have a box and a seal ^^)
by the way neil, i just used your link and some nasty many bits are on my way to the springtime germany now... thank god the bitzstore accepts paypal^^... that way i can get a sh...load of bitz and still save a million^^...expect some nie conversions real soon^^
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@Perkustin Thanks , i really tried to follow to the letter that scratch mod guys video tutorials, it took some sitting through but i think his work is unbelievable, i really am thinking about investing in a cheap airbrush now.found some on ebay with aircompressors for £90
@Mike Cheers buddy it's all down to you you know, if you hadnt introduced me to the world of powder pigments on your blog i wouldnt be making a big mess now
@Yggdrasil, You bring compliments as the tree of life bears fruit.
@Manoknok, Thank you, arhh bugger , i new once i went hollywood technicolour you wouldnt be happy with europen coffe house art movie style. well at least i spare you the subtitles
@Shazo , it probably has, well the warp anyhow , which is as close as you get to hell i think in 40k. thanks i think i need to get hold of a pigment fixative to seal the rust so it doesnt just fade away with use.
@Vik ...my god this has to be the firts time you wasnt the first person to reply.... tut tut tut ,as fans go vik , thats just slacking (kidding)
Tadpole suprise lol urhgg ! i think you can probably buy that in some dodgy resteraunt somewhere , infact isnt that what cavier is it would be fun to do an underwater diaroma , i dont think i have ever seen one
cool stuff vik glad the link was usefull , unfortunately they get out of stock easily i have found. look forward to seeing what you come up with .
so i havent been able to work today ...shopping chores .. boo! but i did take a few outdoor shots of the paintscheme , it looks a bit light now , i think it needs some more washes . good job i picked up some babab black nad devlan mud , i suppose shopping can also be YAY!
2011/02/10 21:16:25
Subject: Re:neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Tadpole /Valdor tank conversion with weathering paint effects wip
Nice work with the pastels there, looks great. I don't think it's too light at the moment, think it works as is. If you do add more washes be careful not to ruin the pastels, probably want a light spray of sealer first.
just for future projects, who was that übergenius that introduced you to the work with pastel crayons?
in the light of day i think it is rather bright looking now, so a wash or twoo should help you there, but badab black? i would use here probably devlan mud then...
well seems i cant make it first base anymore...guess i have to work on my fan know how^^...
but i want to point something out here... all that praise for jsut two sides for now...well that has to count for something^^ have you thought about what you will be doing next with the rest and specially the tracks? oh boy i will cross fingers for ye!
and this also raises another question... what about all those holes still empty and the rest of tthe tank unpainted... is the tank as such completly glued or is it to be easyly torn apart for further treatment and assembly?
and who will you treat the rubber parts of the treads?
even more questions my friend...so the balls over to you!
Tank is looking better and better Mate! Hope we are gonna see some mudslinging attrtion troops to go with it. I am sure the Noble 9th have lesser troops to do the dirty work. P.S @Vik plus Neil, you guys should take part in 'Face time Febuary' am weirdly curious as to what you look like... Admittedly my avatar isn't the most clear pic of me but hey...
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2011/02/10 23:00:12
Subject: Re:neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Tadpole /Valdor tank conversion with weathering paint effects wip
@Monkey , can you reccomend a sealer mate , i was going to buy the gw purity seal, but i then found out it is satin as opposed to mat? i think i will wait and see what it looks like fineshed before i decide. i guess a sealler might darken it anyway
@ perky. yeah i guess the engineers will be testing this baby out.
and as for that other question ....take your pic
@Vik Ha ha ha what timeless classic !!
2011/02/11 00:07:46
Subject: Re:neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Tadpole /Valdor tank conversion with weathering paint effects wip
That's me. Am doing my best unimpressed face. Unfortunately i couldn't find a picture of me marvelling at Neil's Amazing minis/Fluff/Artwork. Now that me and Vik have shown ourselves it's up to the big dog. Will you step up to the plate, Neil101 master of Praxus? HEY thats cheating! Lol. ( Perkustin Wishes he'd thought of a mask rather than showing his true hideous countenance)
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2011/02/11 00:09:22
Subject: neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Tadpole /Valdor tank conversion with weathering paint effects wip
"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
2011/02/11 00:25:32
Subject: Re:neil101's 40k Manufactorum Update Tadpole /Valdor tank conversion with weathering paint effects wip
Wow, that is superb work on the tank neil! The weathering is really well done and has a very realistic tone to it (actually I thought the last pics were reference ones of the real tank!)
well neil as one of the few who didn´t freak out for seing your true likeness i can asure all others that the ben grim (the thing) and venom give a good overall view of him... face and character, now you have to choose which is which....rofl...
at perkustin... seems an awful lot of pics shows you with beverages...hmm do i see a pattern there? or is it me thats just envious about other getting to relax with a nice straight drink...hmmm again...
i have been burning the candle at both ends receantly and i still dont feel like i am getting enough work done. Thanks , i did try and make it 
if i do use one it will be removable , but i think i prefer it without now , so cheers. The weapon is a radar thingymybob from the 
and i have never owned a land raider 
, if they are the same as the tadpole, am iam not saying they are. they are about the width of the rhino.
I tried to copy his techniques using my powdered pastels and water , i was pleasantly suprised by the results , i also tried the hairspray/salt technique , but i think it really really needs an airbrush for this, so you dont disturb the crystals.
kicked out of it! Awesome job
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tut tut tut ,as fans go vik , thats just slacking 
That's me. Am doing my best unimpressed face. Unfortunately i couldn't find a picture of me marvelling at Neil's Amazing minis/Fluff/Artwork. Now that me and Vik have shown ourselves it's up to the big dog. Will you step up to the plate, Neil101 master of Praxus? 