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When Phil Kelly wrote the Dark Eldar Codex, Jes Goodwin was uncredited co-author for the fluff, as Eldar are Jes's baby. Guess Jes will be co-authoring this time as well.

Edit: Or not:

Sildani over at Warseer wrote:Kirby at 3++ has confirmed Phil Kelly as the author. Adam Troke apparently helped with background.

Again, this isn't an "I can't afford the Wraithknight" moaning session. I can afford one. Hell, I could probably buy three if they weren't competing for slots with Wraithlords. It's a lament that GW seems to be developing and marketing everything exclusively towards those consumers who are entirely price-insensitive, and not those of us who have a limited amount of recreational dollars and make decisions on what to spend them on.

Agreed. I can easily afford this stuff, but for me it's more about the justification of spending $115 on a 9" plastic toy. I'll buy one...but I want to see if it's worth buying by checking out the rules for it first. I don't play as often as I used to as I now have a 7 month old. So for me this crap has less value if I'm not using it as much.

 kronk wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
@Kronk

What was the thrid? Tau were short but what was the other one other than the upcoming Eldar?

I was thinking Daemons, but now I believe I'm mistaken. The Flier book would be the third. That's when I first started taking notice of these "shortages". The flier book might have been legit issues, but Tau and Eldar being under supplied because they underestimated demand? I don't think so.

 Hulksmash wrote:

I get the feeling GW wasn't really prepared for such a rapid pace after so many decades of glacial releases.

It could be Hulk. But even if that's the case, when Tau was first released, the GW stores had plenty of stock and the FLGS's were screwed on initial release deliveries. I recall the conversations from Mike (here) and others (via other forums) at the time.

I don't want to be a GW basher. I enjoy the game, rules, and setting, but after Tau and the flier book, I made a point to look for similar issues on the next release.

It's still early, so I guess we'll see how June goes I guess?

There were issues with the 6th edition rulebook and some of the rulebook packages too, IIRC. Personally, I'm still leaning toward a shortage of competence rather than a shortage of ethics.

One thing that bothers me with this release is that the Spiritseer is limited edition. I just noticed that. Dumb.

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
One thing that bothers me with this release is that the Spiritseer is limited edition. I just noticed that. Dumb.

It's a splash release, not limited edition. That means that it will be available in the stores for a short time then direct only. I too made that mistake initially as well.

 Kroothawk wrote:
When Phil Kelly wrote the Dark Eldar Codex, Jes Goodwin was uncredited co-author for the fluff, as Eldar are Jes's baby. Guess Jes will be co-authoring this time as well.

I don't know which was worse with the DE... the rules or the fluff. I felt like the DE's problems were so obvious and with their new codex they still played the same way with the exact same problems they had before. And I am certainly not a fan of the new fluff. When they were space vampires deviouring souls of the lesser races, they were cool. But test-tube babies that magically regenerate from their wounds? I think the idea that the vast majority of newborn Eldar end up becoming outcasts and a great deal of those finding their way to Commorragh would have been explanation enough of their numbers and methods.

But now as far as models go, Jes didn't disappoint with the DE and I'm curious what he did with the Eldar. I saw mention that he did the ranger special character?

 CaptKaruthors wrote:
One thing that bothers me with this release is that the Spiritseer is limited edition. I just noticed that. Dumb.

That info is from a copy/paste of info from an independent game store,

The pattern from the last couple of releases is that they can get the finecast minis initially, but after that they become direct GW sale items only

so you will be able to buy them, but not at your local independent (like a lot of the other finecast stuff)

not ideal, but not as bad as you feared

And that ranger special character looks fantastic.

It's a splash release, not limited edition. That means that it will be available in the stores for a short time then direct only. I too made that mistake initially as well.

That's good. I play Iyanden and I'd hate to be shafted in not being able to get a seer model...if even just for variety. I have a ton of warlocks.



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And that ranger special character looks fantastic.

Agreed. I just hope he's a squad upgrade and doesn't clog the HQ slot. There are a ton of characters already in that slot.

Can we have separate thread for whining about the prices? It can even be stickied. Yes, this stuff is rather expensive, and I wish it weren't, but I'm really tired half the posts in any thread about upcoming releases being complaints about the prices. There is nothing new or interesting anyone can say about the subject any more.

As for the releases, I really like the new CC Wraithguard, and the ranger character is gorgeous. Seers are nothing special, not bad by any means, but not particularly great either. Flyers are OK, but I still think DE one looks way better, and if I ever need an Eldar flyer, I'll convert Razorwing instead. Wraithknight is impressive, though arms seem kinda too small and weedy compared to the massive chest.

 CaptKaruthors wrote:

And that ranger special character looks fantastic.

Agreed. I just hope he's a squad upgrade and doesn't clog the HQ slot. There are a ton of characters already in that slot.

I disagree. If he's an HQ choice and Rangers are Troop choices?

That's me adding a fluffy contingent of Alaitoc Rangers to my Guard, as wanderers on the Path of the Outcast finding mercenary work.

Kan makes a nice point there.
Also brings in a way of making an exo army again

Im now thinking of random bloody ways to strap 2 scatter lasers to a dinosaur as a warwalker -_-

On the other hand, Rangers/Pathfinders are pretty much the only unit listing without a "sergeant"-like upgrade option in the current codex. They could easily make Illric the special character "sergeant" for Rangers while still maintaining the fluff of Rangers being a loose, wandering group defending the craftworld.

Having Illric as an HQ would be strange if he's leading an armored column of tanks. Then again, it would be very fluffy for an Alaitoc force.

Alaitoc is led by her Autarchs and Seers, rangers and pathfinders are sort of the recon team to the whole thing. It says it in Path of the Outcast and the other books as well.

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Alaitoc is led by her Autarchs and Seers, rangers and pathfinders are sort of the recon team to the whole thing. It says it in Path of the Outcast and the other books as well.

Alaitoc might be led by the Autarchs and Seers, but who is to say that there's not an Outcast whom the others would follow?

Illric could easily go either way; but I think the biggest mistake that was made with Sergeant Telion in the Space Marine Codex was making him a unit upgrade rather than an HQ choice.
Making an HQ choice ala the recent Tau Pathfinder character "Darkstrider" and the Fireblade character allows for one to deviate a bit from the norm, but still have the flavor of the army intact.

So I'm hoping for HQ choice.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Alaitoc is led by her Autarchs and Seers, rangers and pathfinders are sort of the recon team to the whole thing. It says it in Path of the Outcast and the other books as well.

Alaitoc might be led by the Autarchs and Seers, but who is to say that there's not an Outcast whom the others would follow?

Illric could easily go either way; but I think the biggest mistake that was made with Sergeant Telion in the Space Marine Codex was making him a unit upgrade rather than an HQ choice.
Making an HQ choice ala the recent Tau Pathfinder character "Darkstrider" and the Fireblade character allows for one to deviate a bit from the norm, but still have the flavor of the army intact.

So I'm hoping for HQ choice.

I don't really agree. I feel like it would really reduce the effectiveness of an Alaitoc army if he took up an HQ slot. Unless his rules are amazing, the army is still going to need Farseer support.

It's great to have a birthday on the 25th . A 21st infact!

 Crimson wrote:
Can we have separate thread for whining about the prices? It can even be stickied. Yes, this stuff is rather expensive, and I wish it weren't, but I'm really tired half the posts in any thread about upcoming releases being complaints about the prices. There is nothing new or interesting anyone can say about the subject any more.

As for the releases, I really like the new CC Wraithguard, and the ranger character is gorgeous. Seers are nothing special, not bad by any means, but not particularly great either. Flyers are OK, but I still think DE one looks way better, and if I ever need an Eldar flyer, I'll convert Razorwing instead. Wraithknight is impressive, though arms seem kinda too small and weedy compared to the massive chest.

I don't find your post any more useful than the posts that criticize the price hike. This thread is about the new Eldar release wave, and the rather dramatic price increase is a part of this wave, ergo it is as valid to discuss the price hike as it is to discuss the aesthetics of the new models.

 Absolutionis wrote:
On the other hand, Rangers/Pathfinders are pretty much the only unit listing without a "sergeant"-like upgrade option in the current codex. They could easily make Illric the special character "sergeant" for Rangers while still maintaining the fluff of Rangers being a loose, wandering group defending the craftworld.

Having Illric as an HQ would be strange if he's leading an armored column of tanks. Then again, it would be very fluffy for an Alaitoc force.

Shi`Vre is a HQ choice, and his just a Pathfinder, and he can lead an army of battlesuits. So its not that strange as they have a reference.

If he's an HQ, you could still take an Alaitoc force with Illric and an Autarch/Farseer. You get two HQ slots.

Kan's point of having an allies detachment of Illric and some Rangers is very fluffy and worthwhile. Otherwise, you'd be encouraged to take an awkward Autrach to lead a group of Rangers.

On the other hand, we also don't know Illric's fluff. Maybe he, like Yriel, is originally an outcast/corsair that got recalled to his Craftworld's defense and now acts as an unorthodox Autrach-equivalent wielding an ICBM long rifle.

 Jackal wrote:
Kan makes a nice point there.
Also brings in a way of making an exo army again

Im now thinking of random bloody ways to strap 2 scatter lasers to a dinosaur as a warwalker -_-

An accurate exodite army would include Wraithknights too. Knight suits are historically their domain.

I see this getting expensive for me anyway.

40 wraithguard, 3 wraithlords and a ton of warlocks + avatar and eldrad cost enough.
But ive now got a chance to add in more unit types to my dead army -_-

Goobi2 wrote:
Well as is the Wraithknight cannot fire his shoulder weapons as well as both his arm weapons. As an MC he can only fire 2 weapons, unless he has some kind of special rule.

Probably intercept

Is this picture new?
New for me.

 Spazamataz wrote:

Goobi2 wrote:
Well as is the Wraithknight cannot fire his shoulder weapons as well as both his arm weapons. As an MC he can only fire 2 weapons, unless he has some kind of special rule.

Probably intercept

And a trade-off.

- Fire Shoulder Weapons and One Arm (Arm is twin-linked if shoulder hits)
- Fire both arms (arms are not TL)

The rule is probably 'until start of next turn' so the shoulders are good choice for interceptor.


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 Absolutionis wrote:
Is this picture new?
New for me.

Well, that makes that clear.

 Absolutionis wrote:
Is this picture new?
New for me.

That picture really hit the size of the new Knight home for me, and pretty much guaranteed I'll be eating less the rest of the month to get one.

 Melcavuk wrote:
That picture really hit the size of the new Knight home for me, and pretty much guaranteed I'll be eating less the rest of the month to get one.

I want one and I barely have an eldar army. Just to see your opponent's face when you place it on the table.

Expect a "brand new Knightcase!" from GW in July.

Unfortunately, the new "windrider" squad is just the old jetbikes repackaged.





Also, found some pictures from what seems like the Codex itself on 4chan. I don't think I'm allowed to post it here.

That thing is huge....I want one...Just so it can square off with my Leviathan...