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2013/06/28 13:54:44
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
chaos0xomega wrote: Kroothawk, I think the Collectors Ed. also contains "Warzone Armageddon" (you can see a couple blurbs about it in the photos but no real details other than it has rules for the Third War for Armageddon).
You are right, two warzone files: Pandorax and Armageddon. But I think, both are included in the standard Apocalypse rulebook, here as separate "secret files" for style.
Odd thing I noted from a quick flick through the new issue.
During the battle report, one of the players uses a stratagem -- undermining or collapse or somesuch ? -- that, I think, removes one section of the RoB board they're playing on.
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2013/06/28 14:38:17
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
No, the Pandorax campaign (GK, DA and CSM) is not included in the default Apocalypse book, but they hint that it will be available later through other means, but not for a few months at least. The Armageddon campaign is included though.
reds8n wrote: Odd thing I noted from a quick flick through the new issue.
During the battle report, one of the players uses a stratagem -- undermining or collapse or somesuch ? -- that, I think, removes one section of the RoB board they're playing on.
Wait what? Now that's just silly and a lot of effort. What if you aren't playing on a RoB board? Put police tape and a sign that says "this table does not exist" on the missing section?
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2013/06/28 14:58:34
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
reds8n wrote: Odd thing I noted from a quick flick through the new issue.
During the battle report, one of the players uses a stratagem -- undermining or collapse or somesuch ? -- that, I think, removes one section of the RoB board they're playing on.
Wait what? Now that's just silly and a lot of effort. What if you aren't playing on a RoB board? Put police tape and a sign that says "this table does not exist" on the missing section?
You're allowed to play Warhammer on something Other than a Realm of Battle board? GW never told me that!
2013/06/28 15:03:58
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
It is likely that you will not be able to pick that one if you are not playing on a RoB. Fantasy has something like that in storm of magic and it forbids you from using it without a RoB.
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2013/06/28 15:06:30
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
White Ninja wrote: It is likely that you will not be able to pick that one if you are not playing on a RoB. Fantasy has something like that in storm of magic and it forbids you from using it without a RoB.
Nothing that duct tape or a marker can't fix
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2013/06/28 15:33:32
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
White Ninja wrote: It is likely that you will not be able to pick that one if you are not playing on a RoB. Fantasy has something like that in storm of magic and it forbids you from using it without a RoB.
Technically, it says don't use if not using a RoB board or similarly constructed table.
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2013/06/28 15:51:59
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
Redemption wrote: I believe the Armageddon campaign is included in the regular Apocalypse book as well. The Collector's Edition rulebook is basically just split into several smaller books. The Pandorax campaign is currently collector's edition only, with a note that it will be available several months later for non-collectors.
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White Ninja wrote: It is likely that you will not be able to pick that one if you are not playing on a RoB. Fantasy has something like that in storm of magic and it forbids you from using it without a RoB.
Technically, it says don't use if not using a RoB board or similarly constructed table.
And by "Similarly Constructed" they must mean a table that can't be measured off into 2' x 2' sections? Come on, we measure off sections of the table every game for deployment, it's not like we can't do it during play. I know they want to sell their tables, but that's going a little too far.
Grey Knight Extermination Force
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Consists of 3 Wraithknights or More?
They become energized by the more Wraithknights in the formation, becoming more accurate with shooting and in close combat, also increases to movement and charging.
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2013/06/28 16:08:53
Subject: Re:July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
reds8n wrote: During the battle report, one of the players uses a stratagem -- undermining or collapse or somesuch ? -- that, I think, removes one section of the RoB board they're playing on.
That's what I fear about this version of Apoc - there won't be a thing in the book that isn't represented via an existing model and/or template.
reds8n wrote: During the battle report, one of the players uses a stratagem -- undermining or collapse or somesuch ? -- that, I think, removes one section of the RoB board they're playing on.
That's what I fear about this version of Apoc - there won't be a thing in the book that isn't represented via an existing model and/or template.
Yeah, recent events probably have conspired to make this fear very true.
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2013/06/28 16:19:48
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
Dread Mob (Orks) Consists of at least two Ork Deff Dreads, and 6 Killa Cans. Some Randomness involved as the formation can give the group extra bonus's to close combat, shooting, give it a kustom force field, and sometimes combine the effects
The Lost and the Damned (Chaos Space Marines) It infiltrates, ignores pain, massive bonus's to assault, and destroyed units within the formation can be brought back to fight some more. 6 units of 10 cultists and a Dark Apostle make up this formation.
Edit: also, new teaser:
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JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
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2013/06/28 17:16:14
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
You could just taken an axe to your table and hack off a 2x2 section?
Actually, to me, that's only slightly removed from the mentality of spending £200 on a 'collectors edition' of the book.. it's managed to make the price of the Forge World Horus Heresy book seem reasonable by comparison.
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$49 on ebay, so $110 left over to grimdark it up and reprogram the voice box to say "Blood for the Blood God!"
I can't help but feel that GW have gone too far with this latest release..
Guys, just a thought. There might be new models being released that are not under GW. It's infrequent that we have leaks about Forgeworld releases. Remember, this is Apocalypse. So we might very well see an Imperator model in this release. They've been building up - from the Warhound to the Reaver, and the Phantom and Revenant titans.
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2013/06/28 17:20:11
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
That's what I fear about this version of Apoc - there won't be a thing in the book that isn't represented via an existing model and/or template.
Same here. APOC is my favorite way to play. I'm already pissed I have to buy new templates...and that has soured me somewhat to this release. I loved the scratch built uber laser in the original APOC and all the cool scratch built tables. I would be sad face if all the tables had a "canned" or "out of the box" look to it. The new APOC Batrep definitely felt that way.
That's what I fear about this version of Apoc - there won't be a thing in the book that isn't represented via an existing model and/or template.
Same here. APOC is my favorite way to play. I'm already pissed I have to buy new templates...and that has soured me somewhat to this release. I loved the scratch built uber laser in the original APOC and all the cool scratch built tables. I would be sad face if all the tables had a "canned" or "out of the box" look to it. The new APOC Batrep definitely felt that way.
But if we've learned anything from the GW vs CH lawsuit, its that GW will not release another codex without having models from it. They don't want to let a second rate third party fill in their gaps. Its better to hold off on getting the codex updated so they can ensure they have filled 100% of the models in their new book. Hence the reason we didn't have any substantial updates for a year and a half or so and they are all coming out now.
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2013/06/28 17:45:09
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
Enigwolf wrote: Guys, just a thought. There might be new models being released that are not under GW. It's infrequent that we have leaks about Forgeworld releases. Remember, this is Apocalypse. So we might very well see an Imperator model in this release. They've been building up - from the Warhound to the Reaver, and the Phantom and Revenant titans.
We get infrequent leaks about FW because they actually tell us what they're going to be releasing in good time.
That said, if they were going cross company, they wouldn't be able to spill without ruining GWs super special secret squirrel club, so its something to hope for I guess.
Won't be an Imperator though, Warlord maybe, but not Imperator.
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That's what I fear about this version of Apoc - there won't be a thing in the book that isn't represented via an existing model and/or template.
Same here. APOC is my favorite way to play. I'm already pissed I have to buy new templates...and that has soured me somewhat to this release. I loved the scratch built uber laser in the original APOC and all the cool scratch built tables. I would be sad face if all the tables had a "canned" or "out of the box" look to it. The new APOC Batrep definitely felt that way.
But if we've learned anything from the GW vs CH lawsuit, its that GW will not release another codex without having models from it. They don't want to let a second rate third party fill in their gaps. Its better to hold off on getting the codex updated so they can ensure they have filled 100% of the models in their new book. Hence the reason we didn't have any substantial updates for a year and a half or so and they are all coming out now.
Forgeworld. There could be new Apoc units being released by Forgeworld.
Enigwolf wrote: Guys, just a thought. There might be new models being released that are not under GW. It's infrequent that we have leaks about Forgeworld releases. Remember, this is Apocalypse. So we might very well see an Imperator model in this release. They've been building up - from the Warhound to the Reaver, and the Phantom and Revenant titans.
We get infrequent leaks about FW because they actually tell us what they're going to be releasing in good time.
That said, if they were going cross company, they wouldn't be able to spill without ruining GWs super special secret squirrel club, so its something to hope for I guess.
Won't be an Imperator though, Warlord maybe, but not Imperator.
FW is under GW. It's not a different company.
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2013/06/28 17:54:29
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
FW may not actually be a different company but a lot of the time it is effectively a different company.
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2013/06/28 17:56:56
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42
I'd be surprised if fw tied in any releases with this, as they've already sent out 1 new release notification today - a minotaurs contemptor. Wouldn't have thought that they'd do 2 separate new release announcements in the same day
kitch102 wrote: I'd be surprised if fw tied in any releases with this, as they've already sent out 1 new release notification today - a minotaurs contemptor. Wouldn't have thought that they'd do 2 separate new release announcements in the same day
It may be down the line. You never know. Look at the majority of the Apoc-only units. Guess who produces them? That's right. Forge World.
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2013/06/28 18:03:06
Subject: July White Dwarf New Apocalypse Edition rumour /pics added pg 34, 41& 42