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 juanjopotro wrote:
Hey guys!
You can find a lot of pics of the Apocalypse's Rulebook at this place
http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11241774-rumores-y-fotos-de-apocalipsis-en-julio-novedades-a-dia-09-julio/#103049376

Sisters of Battle are listed on some of those pages. Yay!

Can I rehost the images here for convenience? Uploading them to photobucket now.

And here they are. Spoilered for tidyness.

I hate how they didn't make pictures of any model-rules :(


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 juanjopotro wrote:
Hey guys!
You can find a lot of pics of the Apocalypse's Rulebook at this site
http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11241774-rumores-y-fotos-de-apocalipsis-en-julio-novedades-a-dia-09-julio/#103049376

I love you

 Vaktathi wrote:
Having to deal with deploying and then quickly removing 50 guardsmen en-masse due to a necron thingy and then having a horde or orks come from nowhere doesn't sound much fun or very thematic.

to me.
You forgot two words at the end of that sentence

I would also advice you against buying anything Apocalypse-related, as it's obviously not the game-mode for you.

Oh wow dat intervention chart.

Also gosh darn it the tau SA was cut off

 juanjopotro wrote:
Hey guys!
You can find a lot of pics of the Apocalypse's Rulebook at this site
http://forofreakfactory.mforos.com/1035375/11241774-rumores-y-fotos-de-apocalipsis-en-julio-novedades-a-dia-09-julio/#103049376

You should give credit to the Chinese forum, that posted them first.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Ozymandias wrote:
(or pulsa rockets in the old apoc book)

I see you've heard the song of Reece's people.

I believe he was involved in that game while living down here. I managed to avoid it, I was there for just the aftermath.

 Ozymandias wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Ozymandias wrote:
(or pulsa rockets in the old apoc book)

I see you've heard the song of Reece's people.

I believe he was involved in that game while living down here. I managed to avoid it, I was there for just the aftermath.

I know, I was involved, too.

Inquisitor Jex wrote:
Anyone saw those formations they're selling (without many bundle price reductions)?

I am just wondering what people think of that...I mean it's one thing to have bought models during a period of time and then bring'em all in for a game..this is, I believe, the point of Apocalypse...it's another to spend 600$ to get that tank company or that infantry/heavy weapon company just to play a game right off the bat...and without any discount as well, seems almost..cheap.

That's because they're hoping that they will be able to take advantage of their customers. I find that it is easier (a no more expensive)to buy the units separately, which has the added benefit that you have some time to paint each unit.

I really want to read what World Digestion does for Tyranids.

 -Loki- wrote:
I really want to read what World Digestion does for Tyranids.

I think I've got it:
"Use this Strategic Asset before deployment. All Forests, Jungles and Woods are dangerous terrain for non-Tyranid models in addition to any other rules that apply."

Pretty bad IMO, but not as bad as that Necron Star Pulse...

Dose anyone have the rules for the Aquila strongpoint, Vengance weapons battery & Firestorm Redoubt for normal 40K?

All Gargantuan creatures just got FNP. Damn, Heirophant just got very hard to kill...

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
All Gargantuan creatures just got FNP. Damn, Heirophant just got very hard to kill...

If the new D weapon rules are true, maybe not so much

D weapon damage chart=
1 = vehicles- penetrating hit, SHV- no effect non-vehicles- no wounds
2-5 = vehicles- explodes, SHV- D3+1 Hull points lost, Non-Vehicles- D3+1 wounds
6 = Vehicles- explodes, SHV- D6+6 hullpoints, Non-vehicles- D6+6 wounds

NO SAVES ALLOWED

I finally get to see the eldar wraithknight datasheet, and it doesnt even give what the special rule does :(

Hope someone can find it, or i'll just wait for saturday.

Already have a game planned, with one D weapon per player max.

 Billagio wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
All Gargantuan creatures just got FNP. Damn, Heirophant just got very hard to kill...

If the new D weapon rules are true, maybe not so much

Yeah I was about to say that, here's hoping they're not and/or they got a lot rarer...

 Billagio wrote:

 Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
All Gargantuan creatures just got FNP. Damn, Heirophant just got very hard to kill...

If the new D weapon rules are true, maybe not so much

I'm still holding out hope they reduce the amount of D strength weapons, hopefully limited to Reaver and bigger titans, and a few outliers like the Shadowsword.

*Looks at the World eaters Sons of the Primarch trait...

Well,...once again we don't something really exciting...,not bad, but not great...

Also it seems that the Khorne strategic asset( the one that forced all ennemy units in 24" to run and charge if they could) is also gone...

Eyjio wrote:
So you don't enjoy visualising battles as a struggle, you just play to win. That's fine but why are you trying to denegrate people based on how they wish to spend their money on toys? Come on, this is silly. You don't want to play apocalypse. Fine, whatever. Why are you still commenting in an Apocalypse thread then? It's obviously not your style of gameplay.

That's completely missing the point. I want to play Apocalypse, I've spent well over a thousand dollars and a lot of painting hours on superheavies and I don't just want to keep them on my display shelf. What I do not like is that instead of improving Apocalypse GW seems to be pushing it even farther in the direction of "whoever spends the most money wins". It's nice to talk about how much fun thematic armies are, and the image of battle and all that, but that doesn't excuse lazy rules design that allows anyone with enough money to show up and ruin the game. The players should not have to resort to social shunning to keep people within some arbitrary ideal of balance, the game should be functional and fun no matter how competitively you play it.

Just read the Blood Angels sons of the Primarch chart, and now you Mephiston can actually be the Monsterous Creature he has always wanted to be.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
*Looks at the World eaters Sons of the Primarch trait...

Well,...once again we don't something really exciting...,not bad, but not great...

Also it seems that the Khorne strategic asset( the one that forced all ennemy units in 24" to run and charge if they could) is also gone...

Khorne consistently has gotten boned in 6th edition both with bad models and bad rules and you were expecting anything different from apocalypse? Of course frankly I would not have been surprised if their Finest Hour gave rage...

That being said, I did notice an All Out Attack blurb that allowed you to move triple your normal distance and charge, but you couldn't shoot. No too bad for World Eaters!

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
*Looks at the World eaters Sons of the Primarch trait...

Well,...once again we don't something really exciting...,not bad, but not great...

Also it seems that the Khorne strategic asset( the one that forced all ennemy units in 24" to run and charge if they could) is also gone...

Khorne consistently has gotten boned in 6th edition both with bad models and bad rules and you were expecting anything different from apocalypse? Of course frankly I would not have been surprised if their Finest Hour gave rage...

That being said, I did notice an All Out Attack blurb that allowed you to move triple your normal distance and charge, but you couldn't shoot. No too bad for World Eaters!

Surprisingly Tzeentch got some love with the Chaos Altar, 2++ commanders with 3++ terminators/Daemons with the mark of Tzeentch.

Not to mention the Mastery Level 5 Sons of the Primarch rule. (With sorcerer) or level 2 chaos lord.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
*Looks at the World eaters Sons of the Primarch trait...

Well,...once again we don't something really exciting...,not bad, but not great...

Also it seems that the Khorne strategic asset( the one that forced all ennemy units in 24" to run and charge if they could) is also gone...

Khorne consistently has gotten boned in 6th edition both with bad models and bad rules and you were expecting anything different from apocalypse? Of course frankly I would not have been surprised if their Finest Hour gave rage...

That being said, I did notice an All Out Attack blurb that allowed you to move triple your normal distance and charge, but you couldn't shoot. No too bad for World Eaters!

Surprisingly Tzeentch got some love with the Chaos Altar, 2++ commanders with 3++ terminators/Daemons with the mark of Tzeentch.

Not to mention the Mastery Level 5 Sons of the Primarch rule. (With sorcerer) or level 2 chaos lord.

Yeah that Finest Hour is very nice! You could get a Level 6 Ahriman which is pretty sweet.

Also I didn't notice the Chaos Altar, though I assume it gives your dudes +1 to their invulnerable save! That's especially good for Tzeentchian daemons too.

That feel when even the horus heresy world eaters got by far the worst legion rules...

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
*Looks at the World eaters Sons of the Primarch trait...

Well,...once again we don't something really exciting...,not bad, but not great...

Also it seems that the Khorne strategic asset( the one that forced all ennemy units in 24" to run and charge if they could) is also gone...

Khorne consistently has gotten boned in 6th edition both with bad models and bad rules and you were expecting anything different from apocalypse? Of course frankly I would not have been surprised if their Finest Hour gave rage...

That being said, I did notice an All Out Attack blurb that allowed you to move triple your normal distance and charge, but you couldn't shoot. No too bad for World Eaters!

Surprisingly Tzeentch got some love with the Chaos Altar, 2++ commanders with 3++ terminators/Daemons with the mark of Tzeentch.

Not to mention the Mastery Level 5 Sons of the Primarch rule. (With sorcerer) or level 2 chaos lord.

Yeah that Finest Hour is very nice! You could get a Level 6 Ahriman which is pretty sweet.

Also I didn't notice the Chaos Altar, though I assume it gives your dudes +1 to their invulnerable save! That's especially good for Tzeentchian daemons too.

That feel when even the horus heresy world eaters got by far the worst legion rules...

I think the Chaos altar is CSM specific.

But if you want some good Daemon Stuff, there's a thing for CSM that restores D3 Daemon Units for free (Giving them actual synergy between the two, YOU SEE THAT KELLY, THESE PEOPLE KNOW CHAOS)

Also, that badass Daemon Shell.

They must've thought "Hmm, we should make a powerful artifact..Hmm, lets enchant a bolter shell, make it ****ing awesome, and can be fired from a bolt pistol and do incredible S damage with a massive blast"

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
*Looks at the World eaters Sons of the Primarch trait...

Well,...once again we don't something really exciting...,not bad, but not great...

Also it seems that the Khorne strategic asset( the one that forced all ennemy units in 24" to run and charge if they could) is also gone...

Khorne consistently has gotten boned in 6th edition both with bad models and bad rules and you were expecting anything different from apocalypse? Of course frankly I would not have been surprised if their Finest Hour gave rage...

That being said, I did notice an All Out Attack blurb that allowed you to move triple your normal distance and charge, but you couldn't shoot. No too bad for World Eaters!

Surprisingly Tzeentch got some love with the Chaos Altar, 2++ commanders with 3++ terminators/Daemons with the mark of Tzeentch.

Not to mention the Mastery Level 5 Sons of the Primarch rule. (With sorcerer) or level 2 chaos lord.

Yeah that Finest Hour is very nice! You could get a Level 6 Ahriman which is pretty sweet.

Also I didn't notice the Chaos Altar, though I assume it gives your dudes +1 to their invulnerable save! That's especially good for Tzeentchian daemons too.

That feel when even the horus heresy world eaters got by far the worst legion rules...

I think the Chaos altar is CSM specific.

But if you want some good Daemon Stuff, there's a thing for CSM that restores D3 Daemon Units for free (Giving them actual synergy between the two, YOU SEE THAT KELLY, THESE PEOPLE KNOW CHAOS)

Also, that badass Daemon Shell.

They must've thought "Hmm, we should make a powerful artifact..Hmm, lets enchant a bolter shell, make it ****ing awesome, and can be fired from a bolt pistol and do incredible S damage with a massive blast"

U wot m80?
I'm not seeing those listed anywhere, but the regenerating Daemon units is both awesome and needed since you can't take invul saves against D weapons!

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
*Looks at the World eaters Sons of the Primarch trait...

Well,...once again we don't something really exciting...,not bad, but not great...

Also it seems that the Khorne strategic asset( the one that forced all ennemy units in 24" to run and charge if they could) is also gone...

Khorne consistently has gotten boned in 6th edition both with bad models and bad rules and you were expecting anything different from apocalypse? Of course frankly I would not have been surprised if their Finest Hour gave rage...

That being said, I did notice an All Out Attack blurb that allowed you to move triple your normal distance and charge, but you couldn't shoot. No too bad for World Eaters!

Surprisingly Tzeentch got some love with the Chaos Altar, 2++ commanders with 3++ terminators/Daemons with the mark of Tzeentch.

Not to mention the Mastery Level 5 Sons of the Primarch rule. (With sorcerer) or level 2 chaos lord.

Yeah that Finest Hour is very nice! You could get a Level 6 Ahriman which is pretty sweet.

Also I didn't notice the Chaos Altar, though I assume it gives your dudes +1 to their invulnerable save! That's especially good for Tzeentchian daemons too.

That feel when even the horus heresy world eaters got by far the worst legion rules...

I think the Chaos altar is CSM specific.

But if you want some good Daemon Stuff, there's a thing for CSM that restores D3 Daemon Units for free (Giving them actual synergy between the two, YOU SEE THAT KELLY, THESE PEOPLE KNOW CHAOS)

Also, that badass Daemon Shell.

They must've thought "Hmm, we should make a powerful artifact..Hmm, lets enchant a bolter shell, make it ****ing awesome, and can be fired from a bolt pistol and do incredible S damage with a massive blast"

U wot m80?
I'm not seeing those listed anywhere, but the regenerating Daemon units is both awesome and needed since you can't take invul saves against D weapons!

http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p770/juanjopotro/ap27_zpse1970e0c.jpg

The Strategic Assets page.

 SickSix wrote:
D weapon damage chart=
1 = vehicles- penetrating hit, SHV- no effect non-vehicles- no wounds
2-5 = vehicles- explodes, SHV- D3+1 Hull points lost, Non-Vehicles- D3+1 wounds
6 = Vehicles- explodes, SHV- D6+6 hullpoints, Non-vehicles- D6+6 wounds

NO SAVES ALLOWED

How to play Apocalypse in 5 easy steps:

Step 1: Purchase a large number of Citadel™ Miniatures™, put them together with official Citadel™ Glue™, paint them with official Citadel™ Paints™ using official Citadel™ Brushes™.
Step 2: Spend 1-2 hours deploying tens of thousands of points of Citadel™ Miniatures™ on your Realm of Battle™ Citadel™ Playing Surface after covering it with officially produced Citadel™ Terrain™.
Step 3: Place your official Apocalyptic Blast Marker™ over a large part of your opponent's army.
Step 4: Your opponent now removes the Citadel™ Miniatures™ that have been killed before they could do anything because of the Strength™ D™ rules.
Step 5: Continue repeating Steps 3 and 4 until all players have Forged a Narrative™ and had lots of Cinematic™ fun.




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 Slayer le boucher wrote:
*Looks at the World eaters Sons of the Primarch trait...

Well,...once again we don't something really exciting...,not bad, but not great...

Could be worse. It could be the Night Lord ability that most armies in the game flat out ignore.

Personally i think invul saves are still allowed against D weapons as in the latest 6th addition FAQ/Errata they do specifically state you can always take invul saves regardless even if it says 'no saves of any kind allowed' which it does in this case, since this is an expansion to 40k we still use those rules unless they specifically tell us not too.

Khorne consistently has gotten boned in 6th edition both with bad models and bad rules and you were expecting anything different from apocalypse?

Speaking of Khorne getting boned (the only bone he likes is the skull after all), I have not seen a thing about either the Brass Scorpion or the Tower Of Skulls for this new 2nd Edition Apocalypse. Those were two popular conversions for Apocalypse, especially the Brass Scorpion. It would be most annoying for their to be no datasheets for those in the new Apocalypse.

I built three Brass Scorpions for myself, gave clinics on how to do it, had a builders' guide on the US GW website for the first six months of 2008 and have even built some for other people. There are a lot of expensive Brass Scorpion conversions out there that are going to be collecting dust if they have no datasheet now.

 BrassScorpion wrote:

Khorne consistently has gotten boned in 6th edition both with bad models and bad rules and you were expecting anything different from apocalypse?

Speaking of Khorne getting boned (the only bone he likes is the skull after all), I have not seen a thing about either the Brass Scorpion or the Tower Of Skulls for this new 2nd Edition Apocalypse. Those were two popular conversions for Apocalypse, especially the Brass Scorpion. It would be most annoying to for their to be no datasheets for those in the new Apocalypse.

I built three Brass Scorpions for myself, gave clinics on how to do it, had a builders' guide on the US GW website for the first six months of 2008 and have even built some for other people. There are a lot of expensive Brass Scorpion conversions out there that are going to be collecting dust if they have no datasheet now.

Use the old datasheet.