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chaos0xomega wrote:

Barfolomew wrote:
Talk about hypocrisy. I want to see someone stuff 10 marines into a rhino or 12 guardsmen into a Chimera or 12 firewarriors into a devilfish. GW is just as bad about scaling as anyone else, with Fantasy being worse than 40K.

Game looks good and should play well. I look forward to it.

Ah but I dont play much 40k, and as far as marines go I went through the trouble of true scaling them.

To bad laws say you can only do that with 40K model, right. Now did you true scale the rhino or can you still not fit them inside.

Barfolomew wrote:
Talk about hypocrisy. I want to see someone stuff 10 marines into a rhino or 12 guardsmen into a Chimera or 12 firewarriors into a devilfish. GW is just as bad about scaling as anyone else, with Fantasy being worse than 40K.

Game looks good and should play well. I look forward to it.

I don't have a big issue with the scale here but comparing ships that are twice the size they should be to an APC that is maybe 20% smaller than it should is very disingenuous. The difference in scales being complained about here is multiple times that of 40k.

Yes, but so are the size of the ships! I'd rather not have most ships be pinheads, or the reverse, a foot long. I think they made some necessary compromises. If it plays well, most of us will be happy.

I'm not sure you're disagreeing with me. I'm saying that the difference in scales HERE is much greater than any discrepancy in 40k which makes it a BS comparison. Also, whereas in 40k, a difference in scale of 50-100% would be unacceptable, it is an acceptable compromise for many players here both in terms of playability and cost to own here for armada.

Ah yes, we are agreed then

Barfolomew wrote:
Talk about hypocrisy. I want to see someone stuff 10 marines into a rhino or 12 guardsmen into a Chimera or 12 firewarriors into a devilfish. GW is just as bad about scaling as anyone else, with Fantasy being worse than 40K.

And people complain about GW's whacky scale as well. Not seeing the hypocrisy there.

 insaniak wrote:

Barfolomew wrote:
Talk about hypocrisy. I want to see someone stuff 10 marines into a rhino or 12 guardsmen into a Chimera or 12 firewarriors into a devilfish. GW is just as bad about scaling as anyone else, with Fantasy being worse than 40K.

And people complain about GW's whacky scale as well. Not seeing the hypocrisy there.

Everyone knows that anyone you disagree with on the internet is part of the same hive-jerk, which conveniently lets you throw out completely unrelated complaints of hypocrisy in situations like this.

 RiTides wrote:
Yes, but so are the size of the ships! I'd rather not have most ships be pinheads, or the reverse, a foot long. I think they made some necessary compromises. If it plays well, most of us will be happy.

Exactly. The clincher here will be the gameplay. The miniatures look nice enough, and I can put up with the scale differential, but I'm hoping for something that gives the 'feel' of these great big capital ships manoeuvring around each other.

chaos0xomega wrote:

Barfolomew wrote:
Talk about hypocrisy. I want to see someone stuff 10 marines into a rhino or 12 guardsmen into a Chimera or 12 firewarriors into a devilfish. GW is just as bad about scaling as anyone else, with Fantasy being worse than 40K.

Game looks good and should play well. I look forward to it.

Ah but I dont play much 40k, and as far as marines go I went through the trouble of true scaling them.

Would you like a cookie?

 Pacific wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Yes, but so are the size of the ships! I'd rather not have most ships be pinheads, or the reverse, a foot long. I think they made some necessary compromises. If it plays well, most of us will be happy.

Exactly. The clincher here will be the gameplay. The miniatures look nice enough, and I can put up with the scale differential, but I'm hoping for something that gives the 'feel' of these great big capital ships manoeuvring around each other.

The mechanism for that is plotting your big ship moves two turns ahead.

I like X-Wing.
That game is different and quite unique at how it is played.
The Star Wars theme, which i love, is the reason i started playing it.

I like the look of this, but it's something between X-Wing and other space battle games, the ones without a ruler that determines how you can or cannot move.
At this scale i have and play both BFG and FA and that is enough for me.

Any chance of this being at NOVA?

They are barely demoing at GenCon. I doubt they'd make it to Nova with the game being almost 6 months out but I'd be stoked if it was since I'll be there

Personally I'm really interested in the actual size of the models. I get the feeling they are smaller than many people on the FFG forums are assuming. From the dice I'd put them in the range of the current fighters but people are swearing the VSD is in the Falcon range which doesn't quite make sense with the dice.

That's going to be a big impactor too. I want to play with fleets. Not 1-3 "capital" ships.

You can't play with fleets if the models are too large to get a lot of them to fit on the table. That is why I look for ranges of spaceships in the 1 to 3 inch size for playing big fleet battles, by which I mean at least a dozen ships a side.

I envisage this game as a "task force" size of game, in which each side might consist of three to six ships.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

I envisage this game as a "task force" size of game, in which each side might consist of three to six ships.

Sadly I agree. Even scaled to X-Wing fighter sizes (which I think most of these are) where the Blockade Runner is A-wing sized you still can't fit that many ships on the table. I mean the biggest swarm in basic play is 8 ships for X-wing. I'm hoping we get a larger scaled game but I'm not 100% it's going to happen.

I just think a lot of people are overestimating the size of the ships. Mostly seeming to want to justify the price tag of the starter. Personally I think FFG learned from their "mistake" of the X-Wing starter and aren't going to make the starter a cheaper way of building your forces than actual boosters.

I didn't like X Wing but am a big fan of large scale space ships games so will see how this works

Via Curious Constructs FB page .....

This was taken at Gencon on the Fantasy Flight Stand, the Wave 5 ships are on display already. Star Wars Armada has already been announced. Begin speculation now!

X wing launched with a couple of extra 'non-starter' ship blisters, right? I assume then it's the rest of wave 1 for Armada.

Or possible a new 'Epic' ship for X wing, maybe an Imperial one... though there's not a lot that would fit. SPV is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.

Noir wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

Barfolomew wrote:
Talk about hypocrisy. I want to see someone stuff 10 marines into a rhino or 12 guardsmen into a Chimera or 12 firewarriors into a devilfish. GW is just as bad about scaling as anyone else, with Fantasy being worse than 40K.

Game looks good and should play well. I look forward to it.

Ah but I dont play much 40k, and as far as marines go I went through the trouble of true scaling them.

To bad laws say you can only do that with 40K model, right. Now did you true scale the rhino or can you still not fit them inside.

I dont use rhinos (or any other SM vehicles for that matter, nor any non-forgeworld Imperial Guard infantry) for that exact reason. youre not going to win this argument, friend.

 namiel wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

Barfolomew wrote:
Talk about hypocrisy. I want to see someone stuff 10 marines into a rhino or 12 guardsmen into a Chimera or 12 firewarriors into a devilfish. GW is just as bad about scaling as anyone else, with Fantasy being worse than 40K.

Game looks good and should play well. I look forward to it.

Ah but I dont play much 40k, and as far as marines go I went through the trouble of true scaling them.

Would you like a cookie?

would love one, itll taste sooo gooooood with your bruised ego.

Back on topic, please.

I guess the above pic means news is coming tomorrow / they aren't yet demo'ing Armada today?

They've got at least 4 sets down here. I haven't gotten in on one yet, but was able to snap some pics, including the rules reminders printed on the mats.



The different diamonds on the range ruler indicate which color of dice you can roll at that range.




I didn't get a picture, but the Rebel demo have an X-Wing Squadron card that state the squadron contains Luke Skywalker, so there are different squadron variants you can field.

Also, I think both the CR-90 and the Nebulon(the Nebulon is a definite) have Evade abilities that let them cancel, IIRC, 1 critical hit.

Wow, awesome and thanks!

 BrookM wrote:
Wow, awesome and thanks!

Updated the post, so check it again.

I'll try to get a better run down after I actually grab a demo.

Fantastic, Plat! Thanks for being our spy

 Platuan4th wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Wow, awesome and thanks!

Updated the post, so check it again.

I'll try to get a better run down after I actually grab a demo.

OP updated, thanks again!

Looks like those ship scales are a bit better than I'd originally thought.


Getting more and more excited about this!

How big are they in relation to existing X-wing figures? Just curious. Game looks fun

 Hulksmash wrote:
How big are they in relation to existing X-wing figures? Just curious. Game looks fun

My guess is, the Star Destroy is Millennium Falcon size and the Tantive IV is maybe X-wing (fighter) size.

Ok, the Corvette is smaller than I first thought. It's still too big, but the problem is really the Neb-B. It looks about the same size as the Corvette. It probably needs to be about 1.5x the size.

Frigate actually looks longer if they are on the same base. The Frigate goes from almost the front to overhanging the rear. The corvette fits snugly on it's base with space at both ends.