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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/18 19:42:28


Post by: Grey Templar


Love the game so far.

The classless system is a good one. Now I can really go for my sneaky fighter assassin. I sneaks in heavy armor, your argument is invalid.


I am disappointed they didn't put mounted combat in. It would make horses a little more useful, seeing as how they arn't much faster then running(although fast enough to outrun a Sabrecat) And for those who lost your horse, mine won't leave. He followed me all the way out to an ice floe. (fast travel)


What REALLY annoys me is that Dragons are easier to kill then Trolls


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/18 20:12:34


Post by: Avatar 720


Anvildude wrote:Haven't done that yet, but planning on making a Heavy Sorcerer type soon. Have you taken the 'half Magicka cost' perks for Conjuration yet?


Only for Novice and Apprentice, since I need lvl 50 for Adept and I can't seem to level fast enough, nor afford training.

Spell cost reduction enchants must be pretty rare, because my enchanting is almost level 60 and i'm half way to level 18, and haven't seen anything with that enchantment, i'm stuck with Fortify Magicka and Magicka Regen for now.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/18 20:17:09


Post by: Laughing Man


Grey Templar wrote:
What REALLY annoys me is that Dragons are easier to kill then Trolls

Wait until you get to Frost Dragons or bigger. I currently two-shot trolls. Higher level dragons can actually give me a run for my money, even in my fully enchanted daedric set.


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Avatar 720 wrote:
Anvildude wrote:Haven't done that yet, but planning on making a Heavy Sorcerer type soon. Have you taken the 'half Magicka cost' perks for Conjuration yet?


Only for Novice and Apprentice, since I need lvl 50 for Adept and I can't seem to level fast enough, nor afford training.

Spell cost reduction enchants must be pretty rare, because my enchanting is almost level 60 and i'm half way to level 18, and haven't seen anything with that enchantment, i'm stuck with Fortify Magicka and Magicka Regen for now.

Start hunting necromancers, etc. Their robes will often carry a combination magicka regen/spell cost reduction enchantment.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/18 20:24:47


Post by: Avatar 720


I've got combination ones, but I can only put them on chest armour AFAIK, and the active effect isn't that much of a reduction.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/18 21:32:01


Post by: winnertakesall


If you want to get your conjuration up high, this isn't quite proper gameplay, but it's handy. Find someone, start a fight with them, and get them stuck on a rock or something. Now summon bound weapons, sheath them again, then summon them. Rinse and repeat.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/18 21:47:23


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Anvildude wrote:What, you don't know Klingon?



Video games do everything in ones or threes (three hits to take out Bower's kids in the Mario games, Three keys to unlock doors. Two Frost Trolls to flank One Hagraven [makes three] )


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/18 21:59:55


Post by: Anvildude


Avatar 720 wrote:
Anvildude wrote:Haven't done that yet, but planning on making a Heavy Sorcerer type soon. Have you taken the 'half Magicka cost' perks for Conjuration yet?


Only for Novice and Apprentice, since I need lvl 50 for Adept and I can't seem to level fast enough, nor afford training.

Spell cost reduction enchants must be pretty rare, because my enchanting is almost level 60 and i'm half way to level 18, and haven't seen anything with that enchantment, i'm stuck with Fortify Magicka and Magicka Regen for now.


That's kinda bizzarre. I've been finding robes and amulets and rings and such all over the place. I got Fortify Destruction almost right away, and keep finding (and selling) Fortify Conjuration and such.

There's always Fortify Skill potions, too.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/18 23:10:04


Post by: purplefood


Nightingale is some of the best light armour. Better than dragon scale in most areas...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 01:29:06


Post by: halonachos


Okay, buying it over thanksgiving break. Screw my grades, this will be worth it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 02:39:20


Post by: Soladrin


Almost got heavy armor and enchanting at 100, I should be able to create my completely maxed out gear this weekend. Almost level 38, yey.

Side note, Max level is 81 (with all skills at 100). Soft cap is 50, after that, it go's A LOT slower.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 02:59:44


Post by: Slarg232


What goes up, must come down, tis true:




The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 03:03:18


Post by: brotherskeeper74


Okay, now i did it! Not only does the DB have a contract on me, but now I messed up some elf clans plans. The are to kill me on sight. LOL I was the one doing the killing though.

Had something funny happen. Went back into the dungeon where you learn your first shout to get the more weapons to sell. Went out the back way and -BAM- A dragon attacks me. Kill it and it crashed in to the ground making a nice impact crater. Kinda cool. Fast traveled back to town, sold my stuff and -BAM- that fast, another dragon attacks me. Killed it as everyone went about there business. Matter a fact, had to dance around someone carrying wood.

"Oops. My bad. You are rather busy. I'll take the dragon elsewhere to fight it to the death. Many pardons."


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 04:15:02


Post by: Grey Templar


hmmm, DB having a contract on you.

I wonder what happens if you suddenly decide to join them.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 04:17:28


Post by: Anvildude


Ironically, seeing as Horses tend to like tanking Dragons, Horse Armour may in fact be a worthwhile download...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 04:56:51


Post by: Grey Templar


Yeah, I find it annoying when I get off to fight someone and he goes running off to kick someone on the other side of the creek's teeth in.

Just lost my horse that way to Forsworn


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 05:36:13


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


I love when you get slow mo executions against important enemies


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 06:19:04


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:I love when you get slow mo executions against important enemies



Not me. Freaks me out, makes me think I died when it goes into 3rd person at first.


Don't forget, They can also get slow mo executions on you too. Learned that several Times today doing the last quest for the Companions.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 11:45:32


Post by: Nerivant


brotherskeeper74 wrote:Okay, now i did it! Not only does the DB have a contract on me, but now I messed up some elf clans plans. The are to kill me on sight. LOL I was the one doing the killing though.

Had something funny happen. Went back into the dungeon where you learn your first shout to get the more weapons to sell. Went out the back way and -BAM- A dragon attacks me. Kill it and it crashed in to the ground making a nice impact crater. Kinda cool. Fast traveled back to town, sold my stuff and -BAM- that fast, another dragon attacks me. Killed it as everyone went about there business. Matter a fact, had to dance around someone carrying wood.

"Oops. My bad. You are rather busy. I'll take the dragon elsewhere to fight it to the death. Many pardons."


It gets better. The further you go in the main quest, the more dragons spawn. I had three dragons assaulting a town and the fruit vendor would NOT leave her stall. Streams of fire, frost, blasts of lightning, crashing dragons... but GODDAMMIT, I'M GOING TO SELL THESE FETHING APPLES.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 11:51:11


Post by: Avatar 720


I wish they'd scripted deaths into people's dialogues. Yesterday a dragon attacked Riverwood and ol' Alvor died (bless him, I remember when he was teaching me how to make stuff I then sold back to him *sniff*) trying to bash its face in, but his wife is either none the wiser, despite his body being in the middle of the place, or gone so mad that she imagines he is still around.


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In other news: http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/18/bethesda-skyrim-patch-en-route-for-week-after-thanksgiving/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

Article is a bit vague, but I wish Bethesda had released a list of the major bug fixes.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 13:05:51


Post by: Dreadwinter


Necros wrote:He's an interesting fella. You can get jester cloths like his a little later if you keep doing the DB quests. I have a full suit, I wish I could have a little mannequin standee thing in my house to hold suits of armor, or force Lydia to wear it.


The house you buy in Riften has two in the basement.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 14:43:24


Post by: brotherskeeper74


Nerivant wrote:Streams of fire, frost, blasts of lightning, crashing dragons... but GODDAMMIT, I'M GOING TO SELL THESE FETHING APPLES.


Hey, with the economy being the way it is, you gotta sell, sell, sell! Who cares if there are attacking dragons! People get hungry running for their lives.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 15:01:57


Post by: Nerivant


brotherskeeper74 wrote:
Nerivant wrote:Streams of fire, frost, blasts of lightning, crashing dragons... but GODDAMMIT, I'M GOING TO SELL THESE FETHING APPLES.


Hey, with the economy being the way it is, you gotta sell, sell, sell! Who cares if there are attacking dragons! People get hungry running for their lives.


The economy started tanking when I flooded the market with 10 gold potions of Cure All Diseases. Seriously, the repercussions of that are immense.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 15:07:30


Post by: Chowderhead


So, I've played for 50 hours. What have I found?

1)
Spoiler:
The Notched Pickaxe! Best easter egg ever!

(Notch is the nickname for the owner/creator of Mojang, and Minecraft, their game.)


2) Full Daedric Armor and dual Daedric hand axes. My god, this was a bitch. The amount of hauling that was required to get the Ebony and the hearts was astounding. After 3 hours of searching, questing, and Wikiing, I crafted my massive set of god armor. It's amazing, to say the least.

3) Ice Mages suck balls. I have about 300 Stamina and 250 health, with a 69 Heavy Armor and 90 One Handed Weapon skills. Now, what happens when I see an Ice Mage? He removes my Stamina, making it nigh on impossible for me to run to him without the other god damned Ice Mages forcing me to stagger, basically killing me and shafting my one way of doing things: Tanking. When I get close to them, they die like it's their job, don't get me wrong. But until then, they just spam the hell out of ice spells, and it makes me Rage.

4) Sam and the Drinking contest. You challenge a man named Sam to a drinking contest in
Spoiler:
Markarth
and the next thing you know, you've woken up in a temple, and everyone's pissed at you. You need to piece together what happened last night, and get back the staff you won in the contest.

This is easily my favorite quest of any Elder Scrolls game. It's really tongue in cheek, and the things you did while you were piss drunk are hilarious. Try it. It's got a great reward as well.

5) Daedric Quests. Not all of these start, or even end, at the shrines of the god. Some, like the one I'll describe in the spoiler, start really weirdly.
Spoiler:
You get told to get this man a dog. So you go to the dog, and it talks to you. It's funny as hell, and really good to break the mood of the usually depressing game.


6) This game can be scary at points. Like, really really fething scary.
Spoiler:
See: THe Night Mother. She's fething scary as gak when you first meet her.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 15:50:11


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


Anyone else love the outcome of the dark brotherhood quests?
I cant believe you
Spoiler:
Kill the emperor

After I did it, I felt awesome. Wish I did it in
Spoiler:
Mythic dawn robes


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 17:15:23


Post by: Deathshead420


Got a question for anyone that finished the dark brotherhood quest?

Spoiler:
Did anyone leave cicero alive? and also did anyone do what the emperor askes them to do at the end?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 17:27:07


Post by: Avatar 720


Hmmm, rememeber I said that Alvor had died fighting a dragon? Well, a lot of in-game days later (since he died days ago real time, and i've been playing for ages since then), and 3 hired thugs in full steel try to cut me down (with half of Dawnstar's citizens doing the same thanks to a badly placed shout).

One of them had a contract from Alvor calling me a thief and telling them it wasn't necessary to kill me, but it didn't matter if they did.

Either it took them AGES to find me, or Alvor's ghost is pretty pissed off with me.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 17:35:01


Post by: Soladrin


Chowderhead wrote:So, I've played for 50 hours. What have I found?

1)
Spoiler:
The Notched Pickaxe! Best easter egg ever!

(Notch is the nickname for the owner/creator of Mojang, and Minecraft, their game.)


2) Full Daedric Armor and dual Daedric hand axes. My god, this was a bitch. The amount of hauling that was required to get the Ebony and the hearts was astounding. After 3 hours of searching, questing, and Wikiing, I crafted my massive set of god armor. It's amazing, to say the least.

3) Ice Mages suck balls. I have about 300 Stamina and 250 health, with a 69 Heavy Armor and 90 One Handed Weapon skills. Now, what happens when I see an Ice Mage? He removes my Stamina, making it nigh on impossible for me to run to him without the other god damned Ice Mages forcing me to stagger, basically killing me and shafting my one way of doing things: Tanking. When I get close to them, they die like it's their job, don't get me wrong. But until then, they just spam the hell out of ice spells, and it makes me Rage.

4) Sam and the Drinking contest. You challenge a man named Sam to a drinking contest in
Spoiler:
Markarth
and the next thing you know, you've woken up in a temple, and everyone's pissed at you. You need to piece together what happened last night, and get back the staff you won in the contest.

This is easily my favorite quest of any Elder Scrolls game. It's really tongue in cheek, and the things you did while you were piss drunk are hilarious. Try it. It's got a great reward as well.

5) Daedric Quests. Not all of these start, or even end, at the shrines of the god. Some, like the one I'll describe in the spoiler, start really weirdly.
Spoiler:
You get told to get this man a dog. So you go to the dog, and it talks to you. It's funny as hell, and really good to break the mood of the usually depressing game.


6) This game can be scary at points. Like, really really fething scary.
Spoiler:
See: THe Night Mother. She's fething scary as gak when you first meet her.


Spoiler:
Erm, you didn't do the dog quest to right way then did you? Cause Clavicus the Vile is a dick which send you off to kill a madman who was forced to kill his own werewolf daughter with an axe Clavicus game him as a "cure" to lycanthropy. You finish the quest by re-uniting barnabas with said deadric prince. The dog was his dog, and in it was half of the gods power.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 18:03:39


Post by: metallifan


Chowderhead wrote:4) Sam and the Drinking contest. You challenge a man named Sam to a drinking contest in
Spoiler:
Markarth
and the next thing you know, you've woken up in a temple, and everyone's pissed at you. You need to piece together what happened last night, and get back the staff you won in the contest.


That's not a spoiler. And if you want a really good chuckle, I met him in Whiterun and woke up in Markarth. THAT must've been a hell of a night


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 18:15:45


Post by: Slarg232


Does anyone know how effective Iron Fist is?

I'm not sure if I want to get it, but I can't really say no to being a drunk running around punching people to death while shouting at them....


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 18:45:21


Post by: Avatar 720


Right, i'm in the Labyrinthian and i'm in a room with loads of soul gem traps, and I can't get past the fireball one at the end. Two hits and i'm dead, and the Steadast ward + 1/3 of my health is obliterated on the first hit.

How did people do whirlwind sprinting past it?

Also, what do I need to look for with the
Spoiler:
Draon Prince at the end?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 18:48:14


Post by: Deathshead420


@ avatar
Spoiler:
use bow and arrow and shoot out the crystal


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 18:52:05


Post by: Avatar 720


I'm a mage, I don't carry a bow and arrows around with me.

Also, already tried to unrelenting force them off (in case anyone suggests it), but it doesn't seem to work.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 19:24:58


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Do you have ice spike or ice spear?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 19:36:04


Post by: Slarg232


Ok, I've got to try it.

Starting over, making a Khajiit with Iron Fist.

Wondering how effective this will be. Wish me luck, FOR SCIENCE!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 20:03:03


Post by: Avatar 720


Done it.
Spoiler:
Managed to get close enough to spawn a Fire Atronach right in front of the pedastals the gems were on. Naturally it resisted the fire damage, but the blast blew the gems off.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 20:17:02


Post by: Slarg232


Unarmed is bad; you can't enchant or poison it, though it does do ridiculous damage right off the bat.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 20:21:59


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Thoughts on a light armour wearing unarmed and alteration specialist monk type character?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 20:32:58


Post by: Nerivant


It would do poorly without the heavy armor unarmed damage bonus.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 20:33:12


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Bane


Slarg232 wrote:Unarmed is bad; you can't enchant or poison it, though it does do ridiculous damage right off the bat.


Gloves of the Pugilist, its light armor that gives you +10 damage for unarmed strikes


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 21:16:41


Post by: Slarg232


Inquisitor Lord Bane wrote:
Slarg232 wrote:Unarmed is bad; you can't enchant or poison it, though it does do ridiculous damage right off the bat.


Gloves of the Pugilist, its light armor that gives you +10 damage for unarmed strikes


Going Khajiit gives you a standard +15, and then with Iron Fist (Heavy Armor) you get another +26 (at least, biggest gloves I've found at lvl 14), for a total of 41 Damage per strike.

Nice? Nice.

But there is no upgrade tree, there are no Power Attacks, No Upgrades, and you can't enchant or poison gloves.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 21:26:58


Post by: Wolf


So has anyone else noticed that magic is a very potent way of killing things ? My Argonian mage can take down Trolls like they were a bandit outlaw, compared to my first character at the same level found it near imposible to do !


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 22:06:29


Post by: Perkustin


Now have sneak 100 and can finally take off the jester hat. It was annoying how good it was and how dumb it looked.
Btw if you let cicero live he becomes a follower/companion style dude.

Having sneak 100 is kinda easy mode btw. I can stealth roll around at nearly running speed and one hit a giant, from the front. I also havent fought a dwarf centurion or Falmer (any rank) 'properly' yet, and i've killed 4 of the former and 50+ of the latter.

My light armour is around 55 and my One handed 80 my lock picking is 55 but i haven't spent a single perk on it. I can kill a 'dragon' on my own but a 'blood dragon' absolutely ruins me.

I am gonna probably redo the game with a warrior. I am also probs gonna turn the difficulty down and enjoy the game on my second character, as i get the distinct impression a straight warrior is pad crushingly difficult on normal+.

Do you guys often use the companions/housecarls/adoring fans much? All of mine have been 'Wait here' from the off.

Have been denying myself any Faqs/wikis as i want to discover everything myself.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/19 22:25:19


Post by: Slarg232


Perkustin wrote:as i get the distinct impression a straight warrior is pad crushingly difficult on normal+.


Haven't run into this yet. Mind you, I've only done the High Hrothgar and then went exploring for a very long time, but I haven't had a problem slaying dragons or anything.

I am a straight sword and board character, using Shouts as my magic (Luckily, I found a 20% Shout Recharge Rate amulet right off the bat), and then using a Bow for Flying Dragons.

I've killed five dragons as of yet. First one was the scripted battle outside of White Run, second one was also outside of Whiterun, but that one flew into three Giants and Four Mammoths, so I don't count that one. Second one attacked me in the first town do you go to, so I had the Guards help on that one, so it don't count either. Third, fourth, and fifth ones I tracked down and put Axe to Face.



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 00:05:19


Post by: johnscott10


So I have 56 hours clocked(according to steam) and I have done the following:

Main Quest line
Thieves Guild Quest line

How much longer is this gonna take! 56 hours and only 2 questlines done! Im so lovin this game right now XD.

Note: I did spend 5-10 hours roughly figuring out what was going on, then started with a new character.

Also has anybody tried running a light armour warrior type class with good sneak and restoration skills??


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 00:32:02


Post by: Dreadwinter


johnscott10 wrote:So I have 56 hours clocked(according to steam) and I have done the following:

Main Quest line
Thieves Guild Quest line

How much longer is this gonna take! 56 hours and only 2 questlines done! Im so lovin this game right now XD.

Note: I did spend 5-10 hours roughly figuring out what was going on, then started with a new character.

Also has anybody tried running a light armour warrior type class with good sneak and restoration skills??


To be fair, the Thieves Quest line s pretty long. But fantastic!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 00:57:46


Post by: purplefood


Why do people find blood dragons difficult? I've killed about 5 so far and never come close to dying...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 01:00:46


Post by: Nerivant


God, I love when I find a Blood Dragon. It's like a vacation.

Even Frost Dragons aren't that bad.

These Ancient ones are ripping me a new one, though.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 01:28:09


Post by: Avatar 720


I've only encountered one blood dragon thus far, and it was fairly simple because I was in a town, and just had to hide next to a building when it flamed, and then pop out and electrocute it. In the middle of nowhere though, I could see it being an issue.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 01:55:40


Post by: Dreadwinter


Blood Dragons are pretty easy for me now and Frost Dragons are fairly simple.

I hear Ancient Dragons hurt though :(


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 01:55:53


Post by: Grey Templar


whats so special about the Blood Dragons?

They just seem to be regular dragons as far as I can tell. Although I only encountered one and it was the first dragon I saw that wasn't just "a dragon"


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 02:25:24


Post by: halonachos


I just got Skyrim and am installing it now. Got it for my brother, but he has the inferior PS3 version.

Good deal though, thanks to me getting BF3 and Skyrim on PS3 I had $40 of gift cards I could spend... got the PC version for $15. So excited.




The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 04:14:43


Post by: Swordwind


I started my Argonian with intent to make him a sniper/assassin. He's now more of a battlemage.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 15:50:48


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Heavy armour looks terrible on female characters, especially the helmets.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 15:55:05


Post by: Nerivant


So, I just started the alchemy/enchanting feedback loop.

I'm looking to one-shot Alduin.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 15:57:16


Post by: thenoobbomb


Just before I came to my 1st dragon, noobbomb, ya gonna quit!
It will be a long time..


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:04:20


Post by: johnscott10


corpsesarefun wrote:Heavy armour looks terrible on female characters, especially the helmets.


I disagree, the helmets actually look decent on Lydia, though you may be specifying the actual player model in which case I haven't seen as I don't currently run a female character.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:09:23


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Yeah I meant player character


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:20:31


Post by: johnscott10


Speaking of the player character, when you enter 3rd person view, how do you rotates the camera around them?? I still havnt figured this out, im on PC btw.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:22:16


Post by: Corpsesarefun


It's usually hold down a mouse button and move the mouse but due to skyrims left mouse right attack right mouse left attack system I have no clue.

Try the middle mouse button?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:26:51


Post by: johnscott10


Seems you can only do it while standing still.

I was always trying to do i while moving XD.

Its just normal mouse movement otherwise.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:34:27


Post by: Avatar 720


Horray for begging for help!

Spoiler:
Doing the quest where you have to grab Potema's remains from inside the catacombs below the Temple of the Divines in Solitude, but the last room is crazy difficult. She fires lightning at you, all the Draugr are Restless or Wights and my attacks seem to bounce off them until the Wights summon Frost Atronaches to counter the one I throw at them.

Lydia keeps dying to the AoE affect of the lightning, so I can't use companions to any sort of affect, and after the first wave, they're all revived again and thrown back at you; never got past that second wave.

Anyone done this/have any ideas? Was considering the Wabbajack, but honestly can't be bothered running back to where I accidentally dropped it and rummaging around.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:36:11


Post by: Chowderhead


corpsesarefun wrote:Heavy armour looks terrible on female characters, especially the helmets.

Daedric and Orcish look pretty good, I find.

Steel plate is the shittiest looking armor ever, however.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:42:10


Post by: Stormfather


I love the way Orcish armor looks, on both males and females. I didn't get a chance to see Daedric or Dragon, but out of everything else, Orcish was probably my favorite graphic (and Dwarven my least favorite). Does anyone else find it strange that platemail armor is in the light armor perk tree?



After 40 hours of play, my ailing desktop finally gave out. At least it died playing Skyrim, right? I ordered a new desktop, but it won't be delivered for two weeks. This sucks, a forced vacation from Skyrim...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:44:12


Post by: Deathshead420


Ebony mail looks good....till it smokes then hard to aim my bow.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:46:00


Post by: Avatar 720


I'm just waiting for a mod that improves the look on females.

(By 'improves the look' I do not simply mean 'removes huge chunks of armour until they're left with a tight daedric thong and some daedric nipple tassles which oddly give huge amounts of armour')


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 16:53:54


Post by: Deathshead420


Do you guys often use the companions/housecarls/adoring fans much? All of mine have been 'Wait here' from the off.


I've taken the chick from Azura shrine with me everywhere, she has saved my as soo many times. The only thing that i didnt take her on was the DB missions, she gets in the way of assassinations.





Does anyone remember this guy?




The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 17:02:36


Post by: MrDwhitey


I quite like Elven Armour, but as a mage I lament how the most awesome robes so far (Thalmor Mage ones) are goddamn awful.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 17:04:35


Post by: Karon


Has anyone else noticed that if you are a Nord with the Dwarven set of armor (minus the helmet, though it does sort of fit with the eyeholes and such) you look like a Space Wolf with Artificer Armor?

If it doesn't sell you at first, try crouching in 3rd-person...looks exactly like the guys crouching in the DOW2 intro when they are hunting Eldar.

I really, really don't like these Thalmor guys. As Talos is very similar to Sigmar, I find them unbearable, and make a point to murder them whenever I encounter them.

The Markarth conspiracy quests were excellent.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 17:12:30


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Ebony armour is my favourite so far with dwarven (why isn't this dwemeri?) as a close second.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 17:16:44


Post by: MrDwhitey


Karon wrote:I really, really don't like these Thalmor guys. As Talos is very similar to Sigmar, I find them unbearable, and make a point to murder them whenever I encounter them.

The Markarth conspiracy quests were excellent.


If I could, I would join the Thalmor in a heartbeat. It's good to be bad.

I'm pondering making an Altmer to see how Thalmor representatives react to me.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 17:18:18


Post by: Avatar 720


They react the same as to any other character. Complete and utter contempt. Until your Frost Atronach punches them in the face.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 17:19:58


Post by: MrDwhitey


Avatar 720 wrote:They react the same as to any other character. Complete and utter contempt. Until your Frost Atronach punches them in the face.


A shame, truly. It'd be nice to be able to be the bad guys.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 17:22:06


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


Just the other night, I was away from my desktop computer, so I decided to create an Imperial Female, and I was kinda (not really) surprised that the imperial captain was a complete... meany towards my character at the chopping block.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 17:37:43


Post by: Wolf


I really love the look of the Dwarven armour especially the helmet !
Ebony is also very nice, as is Deadric !

I'm not a big fan of dragon bone armour to be honest, I got the full set on my Nord and meh, he doesnt look to cool.

Also, is there any varying robes other than the style of the apprentice and and novice style ones ? I wish we could get ones like the Grey beards wear !


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 18:25:50


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Bane


I got Wabbajack. 'Nuff said


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 18:50:20


Post by: johnscott10


Currently my fav armour set is the Nightingale set. Its just so dark and mysterious looking. Shame my Imperial is a heavy armour type guy.

I dunno whether I should look at an armour set list or just wait till I get them all in Skyrim to see whats my fav set haha.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 18:51:42


Post by: purplefood


johnscott10 wrote:Currently my fav armour set is the Nightingale set. Its just so dark and mysterious looking. Shame my Imperial is a heavy armour type guy.

I dunno whether I should look at an armour set list or just wait till I get them all in Skyrim to see whats my fav set haha.

Nightingale is also one of the best (if not the best) light armour...
It also makes you look slightly like Batman...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 18:55:24


Post by: Cheesecat


Can you make Druid-like characters in Skyrim?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 18:57:37


Post by: purplefood


Probably...
Use the right spells and yeah...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 19:16:01


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Light armour, wood elf (for command animal), conjuration (atronach summons), staff and alteration (oak flesh)?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 19:26:07


Post by: Cheesecat


corpsesarefun wrote:Light armour, wood elf (for command animal), conjuration (atronach summons), staff and alteration (oak flesh)?


I was thinking of basing him off of Udyr from league of Legends so like a monk/druid hybrid. Also can you customize your characters voice?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 19:27:32


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I don't think your character actually speaks, you simply pick text options and hear the reply.

Alteration also has telekinesis and other fun things.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 19:32:20


Post by: purplefood


You very rarely actually have a voice in an RPG...
You tend to be the 'nameless hero' despite what you actually name yourself...
I called my Dark Elf, Ernie the Rat King, for instance. No one has batted an eye lid.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 19:32:28


Post by: Inquisitor Lord Bane


corpsesarefun wrote:I don't think your character actually speaks, you simply pick text options and hear the reply.

Alteration also has telekinesis and other fun things.


Actually when hit by something as pathetic as an arrow my bulky male Orc screams like a litle girl. I wish I could change that to something more manly.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 20:01:04


Post by: Chowderhead


Does anyone know if Shegorath is in the game? and if he is, where is he? His quests were always so much fun.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 20:02:25


Post by: Corpsesarefun


He is indeed (and he is the new sheogorath, the player character from oblivion).


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/20 22:03:31


Post by: Avatar 720


I don't remember my character being
Spoiler:
irish


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 00:08:40


Post by: Soladrin


Since I have an armor rating of 1100 now, I like my deadric armor.

My weapons doing 270 also helps.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 00:20:04


Post by: Avatar 720


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Armour

For details about reduction caps etc.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 01:41:03


Post by: KingCracker


Hows the Restoration in this game? In Oblivion I started off using a resto only mage, and quickly became UBER powerful with the drain health spells in that game. Could you potentially pull the same thing off in Skyrim?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 01:51:03


Post by: Avatar 720


You'll need to go combo with Destro to get much done, but with the magicka regen perks you get from the Resto tree, it shouldn't be too difficult until you start becoming outnumbered, and you have to switch to dual-casting destruction spells or dual casting healing spells to outheal what damage you take.

Resto and Conjuration could potentially do well, but some enemies have the ability to take control of your summoned minions.

Points spread through resto, conjuration and destro would create a balance, but you'd likely not need resto at all at that point unless you go solely for the regen perks.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 01:53:08


Post by: Cheesecat


KingCracker wrote:Hows the Restoration in this game? In Oblivion I started off using a resto only mage, and quickly became UBER powerful with the drain health spells in that game. Could you potentially pull the same thing off in Skyrim?


I don't see any drain health spells under Restoration for Skyrim.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Restoration


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 01:55:08


Post by: Avatar 720


Absorb Health was a Resto spell in Oblivion, I don't think it's in Skyrim.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 02:39:44


Post by: infinite_array


I just wanted to drop in and share a quick story with you all.

I picked up Skyrim a couple of nights ago. I was having a blast - got my dragons, got my Norse-inspired guys, got my roman-inspired guys, it's all good. Killing wolves in the forest, chilling in Riverwood, going to Whiterun. Then I get the quests that send me into Bleak Falls Barrows.

Goddamn Bleak Falls Barrows.

It's horrifying. I go up against, what, 3 bandits at a time? They seem to be able to knock 1/3 of my HP off in one hit, and their arrows must have been fired from some sort of magical Beretta .50. I persevere, and eventually get into the actual dungeon. But I literally cannot get past the Bandit in the snake/eagle/whale room. The guy's able to knock me down in 2 hits.

Now, I'm frustrated. I start over, Mage this time. Yum-tee-dum, wolves, Riverwood, Whiterun, Barrows. I'm setting everything on fire, and I manage to kill the Bandit that was frustrating me by a combination of duel-wielding Flames, running away, drinking potions, repeat. Puzzle, done. Spider? Spent a half-hour sniping the thing with Firebolt. Beat the guy in the web down with my bound sword because he was running away from me.

Then? The Druaga. Aaaaaaaugh. I figured I could run right past them and just take the damage from running straight through the swinging-axe trap - only to discover that there's more on the other side.

I'm angry now. I'm supposed to spend 300+ hours on this? Holy crap! I'm pondering whether or not I should return the game, maybe pick up Revelations instead.

Fast forward to tonight. I'm messing around in the settings - changing some light. When I notice a difficulty setting.

Its setting? Master.



So, with the difficulty properly adjusted, I've been enjoying the game. I'll probably go back to playing a warrior-esque class, even though this game does fulfill a life-long dream to be able to duel-wield fireballs.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 02:44:21


Post by: Avatar 720


You must've changed it at some point, the default difficulty setting is Adept.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 02:46:32


Post by: Chowderhead


Soladrin wrote:Since I have an armor rating of 1100 now, I like my deadric armor.

My weapons doing 270 also helps.

Erm.... How does one get an armor rating of 1100?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 02:53:25


Post by: Ma55ter_fett


Well finshed the main quest at lvl 34 as a two sword nord

Spoiler:
really I don't know how a stealth or ranged class could finish kill the final boss really, his fire breath would have killed me in one go if I had not used potions


also

Spoiler:
killed off the dark brotherhood because they sent a couple of assasins after me and I ain't putting up with that gak


I will get the patch when it comes out.

I had thought about skipping it, so I could exploit the glitches in the game.

But really, on my main guy I never exploited any glitches (unless you count the one where you can get free training from a follower by takeing your gold back out of their inventory). And when I did exploit a few on another character I didn't 'get no' satisfaction from it.

I used the leveling glitch on one character to make him a better at sneaking, I figure I'll use him for the theives and Dark brotherhood quests only.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 02:54:47


Post by: Avatar 720


Well, full Daedric (sans shield) gives 468 with all the armour increasing perks from Heavy Armour, and that's unrefined. Legendary Daedric Armour with Fortify Heavy Armour enchants on stuff could very likely boost it to those sorts of levels.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 02:55:03


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


just gonna say my favorite track in the game is the music when dragons attack you



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 03:36:08


Post by: Chowderhead


Avatar 720 wrote:Well, full Daedric (sans shield) gives 468 with all the armour increasing perks from Heavy Armour, and that's unrefined. Legendary Daedric Armour with Fortify Heavy Armour enchants on stuff could very likely boost it to those sorts of levels.

That's what I have (Sans Shield), and with a 86 (70 base) Heavy Armor, I'm only at 400.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 03:41:09


Post by: Avatar 720


Hmm, I accidentally included the shield, but point still stands.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 03:43:52


Post by: Nerivant


Avatar 720 wrote:Legendary Daedric Armour with Fortify Heavy Armour enchants on stuff could very likely boost it to those sorts of levels.


Yup. By combining alchemy, enchanting, and smithing, you can become almost invincible. My 2h character has 1700 armor rating and his greatsword does 608 damage. And that's before potions of fortify heavy armor/ two handed.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 04:10:28


Post by: halonachos


A couple of things that I've had issues with;

1) I leveled up, saved, and then came back to the game to find out that my weapon's damage went from 13 to 11.

2) "Haha, killed a dragon, I'm a boss."... "OMG fething bear is invincible!".

Is it just me or does it seem silly that you can kill the first dragon but then bears can kill you in two hits? Also, the ice troll on the part of the main quest when you have to see the gray-beards killed me three times(each time I forgot to save it while I was on the steps so I had to restart the steps each time) before I just decided to stun him with a shout and then book it to the temple. I'm lvl 7, am I doing something wrong?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 04:12:46


Post by: Chowderhead


halonachos wrote:A couple of things that I've had issues with;

1) I leveled up, saved, and then came back to the game to find out that my weapon's damage went from 13 to 11.

2) "Haha, killed a dragon, I'm a boss."... "OMG fething bear is invincible!".

Is it just me or does it seem silly that you can kill the first dragon but then bears can kill you in two hits? Also, the ice troll on the part of the main quest when you have to see the gray-beards killed me three times(each time I forgot to save it while I was on the steps so I had to restart the steps each time) before I just decided to stun him with a shout and then book it to the temple. I'm lvl 7, am I doing something wrong?
Ice Trolls are level 22. So no, you did nothing wrong.

And yes, I hate bears as well. They swarm you life fething Skeevers.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 04:24:40


Post by: Karon


You are likely clad in nothing but rags, and need to get something better, Halon.

I suggest that, when fighting Bears/Ice Trolls/Giants, you try to stutter them as much as possible, either with a power attack or pommel-bash.

Dance around them and select your hits carefully, and you will come away with a slain beast relatively unscathed.

So, who is siding with the Stormcloaks and who is siding with the Imperials? I'm finding it extremely hard to side with the Imperials at all, and see them as little more as a puppet-kingdom only living because the Aldmeri Dominion allow it to be so.

Skyrim, on its own, under the rule of a immensely powerful Ulfric Stormcloak as High King, would have a better chance at co-existing or warring with the Aldmeri.



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 04:27:03


Post by: Coolyo294


I sided with the Imperials because the reminded me of the NCR.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 04:55:03


Post by: Chowderhead


Stormcloaks, because Imperial armor is gak, and I wanted a bear hat.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 04:59:43


Post by: Alfndrate


Chowderhead wrote:Stormcloaks, because Imperial armor is gak, and I wanted a bear hat.


Stormcloaks just seemed right... ya know. I'm playing as a Nord, and it makes more sense for my guy to be coming into Skyrim to help liberate his land, rather than to be running from Imperial scum...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 05:01:22


Post by: Chowderhead


Alfndrate wrote:
Chowderhead wrote:Stormcloaks, because Imperial armor is gak, and I wanted a bear hat.


Stormcloaks just seemed right... ya know. I'm playing as a Nord, and it makes more sense for my guy to be coming into Skyrim to help liberate his land, rather than to be running from Imperial scum...
I was a Nord, too.

It also didn't help that the first Imperial camp I walked into everyone started attacking me.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 05:49:53


Post by: Nerivant


Stormcloaks, because as good as the stability the Empire would bring, the Aldmeri are too much of a threat to bow to them.

Hell, the Dragonborn could probably take them out (yes, all of them) single-handedly with Storm Call.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 06:05:30


Post by: halonachos


Karon wrote:You are likely clad in nothing but rags, and need to get something better, Halon.


I'm in steel armor with steel everything and my armor is at 100, I just don't get how the dragon could set me on fire twice and do less damage than the bear. So about that ice troll, am I supposed to wait to be a higher level before I go to see the gray beards or what? I already got past it by just running away, but it seems odd to have such a high level baddie that early in the main story.

I'm going with the Imperials on this, I feel bad for them losing some of the other areas they had conquered.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 07:22:31


Post by: johnscott10


I may have just noticed why I liked the Nightingale armour set so much.

Is it me or does the helmet slightly remind you of Jack of Blades from Fable?? I feel that it does somewhat, its just coloured to look uniform.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 07:26:14


Post by: Soladrin


Chowderhead wrote:
Avatar 720 wrote:Well, full Daedric (sans shield) gives 468 with all the armour increasing perks from Heavy Armour, and that's unrefined. Legendary Daedric Armour with Fortify Heavy Armour enchants on stuff could very likely boost it to those sorts of levels.

That's what I have (Sans Shield), and with a 86 (70 base) Heavy Armor, I'm only at 400.


Easy: get 100 enchanting, enchant as many things as you can with +25% getter upgrade from smithing, then make your armor set while drinkinga blacksmith +50% potion, my armor plate alone has near to 600 armor rating now.

Then, for the hell of it, enchant everything with dual enchants, throwing +heavy armor skill and dmg buffs everywhere.

I have Heavy armor skill of 200


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 09:32:28


Post by: JohnnoM


guys, im probably gonna get it very soon and have a few questions:
1. Whats best race/"class" together, e.g redguard battlemage.
2. Best difficulty to start at?
3. Is it relatively easy?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 12:52:54


Post by: KingCracker


Cheesecat wrote:
KingCracker wrote:Hows the Restoration in this game? In Oblivion I started off using a resto only mage, and quickly became UBER powerful with the drain health spells in that game. Could you potentially pull the same thing off in Skyrim?


I don't see any drain health spells under Restoration for Skyrim.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Restoration


Avatar 720 wrote:Absorb Health was a Resto spell in Oblivion, I don't think it's in Skyrim.




Awwww dammit. Well thats a little bit of a bummer. Oh well, guess there wont be any UBER healers that soul suck things to death. Many thanks....er....Clint Eastwood


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Cheesecat wrote:
KingCracker wrote:Hows the Restoration in this game? In Oblivion I started off using a resto only mage, and quickly became UBER powerful with the drain health spells in that game. Could you potentially pull the same thing off in Skyrim?


I don't see any drain health spells under Restoration for Skyrim.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Restoration


Avatar 720 wrote:Absorb Health was a Resto spell in Oblivion, I don't think it's in Skyrim.




Awwww dammit. Well thats a little bit of a bummer. Oh well, guess there wont be any UBER healers that soul suck things to death. Many thanks....er....Clint Eastwoods


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 14:40:19


Post by: Necros


I managed to tear myself away from the game for 4 hours to watch the last 2 weeks of Walking Dead and Hell on Wheels.. I had to, my DVR is almost full :(

But I got up to level 40, I got sneak maxed out now, shadow warrior perk really comes in handy especially if you're a sneaky archer like me. I got blacksmithing up to around 70 so I can improve magic weapons now, I won't be crafting stuff though, I don't have the perks points to spare since I want to save them for 1handed and archery. I'm glad the max level is 80, I always thought it was 50.

Got through the DB main quests, I read somewhere that you could marry the DB leader girl, but I guess I can't now. I ended up marrying that big nord lady from riften, I had to go find her lost sword for her first. And now, some guy that always followed her around in Riften is stuck in my house with her too, and he's always telling me she's upset because the city is so bad (Riften, even though we live somewhere else). I wonder if I can murder him and stuff him in one of my chests? What's he doing with my wife while I'm out a-questing for days on end?

I've been kinda all over the place with quests, just doing whatever quests I see nearby on the map. I think now I'm just gonna focus on 1 storyline at a time, I'll probably finish the thieves guild stuff next since I'm prolly about half way done. I've been having a lot of trouble with the silver hand guys on companion quests. I guess my daggers and arrows don't cut through their armor very good :( But I am loving my life-sucking double ebony swords. And I got myself a soul-sucking ebony dagger and glass bow


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 14:44:11


Post by: Grey Templar


JohnnoM wrote:guys, im probably gonna get it very soon and have a few questions:
1. Whats best race/"class" together, e.g redguard battlemage.
2. Best difficulty to start at?
3. Is it relatively easy?


1) There are no classes, you just develop skills. Race specific abilities are mostly resistance to some type of damage and an active ability.

2) What you are comfortable with. the default is ok.

3) It isn't a walk in the park but its hardly impossable. Once you get the hang of the combat system you should do fine. fear bowmen and get a bow of your own.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 14:45:15


Post by: Avatar 720


I married the shopkeeper's sister from Riverwood on my mage. Whenever I come home to our house in Whiterun, I keep finding that damn Bosmer who followed her around in RW sneaking around outside my house; I even caught him inside once.

It'd add a whole new level to the game if you could accuse your spouses of adultery.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 14:46:52


Post by: Nerivant


Avatar 720 wrote:I married the shopkeeper's sister from Riverwood on my mage. Whenever I come home to our house in Whiterun, I keep finding that damn Bosmer who followed her around in RW sneaking around outside my house; I even caught him inside once.

It'd add a whole new level to the game if you could accuse your spouses of adultery.


You're a good man.

That elf would be nine times deader than a doornail if I caught him doing that to my wife.

Then again, my wife is a werewolf, so there's that.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 14:47:55


Post by: Necros


JohnnoM wrote:guys, im probably gonna get it very soon and have a few questions:
1. Whats best race/"class" together, e.g redguard battlemage.
2. Best difficulty to start at?
3. Is it relatively easy?


Can't help with classes since all I've played is my lizard thief/archer/assassin. Honestly, I don't think the racial stuff matters all that much and it's more about flavor and fluff if you're into that. The powers that races have share the same button on my PS3 controller as my shouts, so I pretty much never use my lizard HP regen power that I can only use once a day anyway. The water breathing comes in handy sometimes but I have yet to be anywhere where I really needed it. I would check out IGN or Gamespot and see which race has the bonus skill points on the skills you think you want to use most.

I've always played at the default (adept?) difficulty. I've had some tough fights, and got squashed by too many bad guys to count, but just remember to save often and learn from your mistakes.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 14:48:20


Post by: Grey Templar


Avatar 720 wrote:I married the shopkeeper's sister from Riverwood on my mage. Whenever I come home to our house in Whiterun, I keep finding that damn Bosmer who followed her around in RW sneaking around outside my house; I even caught him inside once.

It'd add a whole new level to the game if you could accuse your spouses of adultery.


Well, do you need to collect elf blood yet?

you now have the perfect sample


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 14:50:38


Post by: Avatar 720


Nerivant wrote:
Avatar 720 wrote:I married the shopkeeper's sister from Riverwood on my mage. Whenever I come home to our house in Whiterun, I keep finding that damn Bosmer who followed her around in RW sneaking around outside my house; I even caught him inside once.

It'd add a whole new level to the game if you could accuse your spouses of adultery.


You're a good man.

That elf would be nine times deader than a doornail if I caught him doing that to my wife.

Then again, my wife is a werewolf, so there's that.


I think i'm too good sometimes.

I married Aela (assuming that's who you're referring to with the Werewife comment) on my first playthrough, and she's shown almost dog-like loyalty.

Grey Templar wrote:
Well, do you need to collect elf blood yet?

you now have the perfect sample


I'm an Altmer myself, but he'd be my first port of call for blood.

That's if I haven't already killed him and raised him as my undead minion.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 14:53:55


Post by: Nerivant


Avatar 720 wrote:
I married Aela (assuming that's who you're referring to with the Werewife comment) on my first playthrough, and she's shown almost dog-like loyalty.


Yeah. The best thing about marrying her is if you ask her for work, she instantly switches from her "I love you, dear" voice to her "you're damn right I'm giving you a job, now go eviscerate a cave bear" voice. It's fantastic.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 14:56:20


Post by: Avatar 720


Ah, the 'I love you voice'. My aforementioned unfaithful other half yesterday used her 'love' voice before telling me sternly to go away because I accidentally flicked over her whilst crouched and it brought up the pickpocket option.

EDIT: I also have reason to believe her 'shop' is doing better than my meagre share of the profits is telling me.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 15:02:47


Post by: Grey Templar


Thats the thing about these games.

you arn't sure what the designers put in and what they didn't.

"Is she being unfaithful?" "Is she skimping on the profits?"...


Paranoia is annoying


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 15:10:08


Post by: Necros


I like that the wife has her little shop (but how can she be at a shop selling stuff when she's always at home with whats-his-name .. and, Lydia is always in my house 24/7. I wish I could set up a nannycam...

But, it's cool that I can sell her stuff to though, comes in handy for unloading junk when I've drained the cash out of all of the other shop keepers around town.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 15:20:40


Post by: halonachos


Well, went Imperial finally and I must say that the Heavy imperial armor looks good. Its not the leather helmet stuff that the standard soldier wears, its actual steel and the uniform itself is a nice shiny metal with bright red. Actual roman legionesque instead of a cross between a roman soldier and a 30's football player. I decided that if I want stormcloak armor they're easy enough to kill.

So far I'm the thane of Whiterun and Morthal, killed some vamps without getting any diseases from them. Got a disease from a standard wolf and went into a shop and the NPC said my character looked sickly (after fighting the vamps). Cured diseases just to be safe because being a vamp in Oblivion sucked.

Love the fact that you can level up without having to sleep, but my weapon damage still fluctuates. Sometimes my steel shortsword will do 10, sometimes it says it does 13. Same with the orcish sword I use, it goes between 12 and 15 for some odd reason.

Also notable is the change in my shield's armor. Does the game switch difficulty levels depending on how well you perform or is his maybe a glitch?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 15:47:32


Post by: Necros


I'm a werewolf now, but I don't wanna be :(

Spoiler:
I started doing the companion quests and it seemed like I didn't have much choice if I wanted to continue the questline. I hope there will be an option to cure it later on in the quests. It seemed like it would be cool at first, but I think I'd just prefer to be normal and be able to get the rested bonus and stuff.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 15:53:26


Post by: halonachos


Of all of the diseases to catch, lycanthropy is one of the better ones because you don't have to change into a werewolf.

Spoiler:
After you do the companion's quest line you can cure it with another companion's quest. You just have to talk to Aela about it. Just know that once you cure it there's no returning to being a werewolf.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 16:48:34


Post by: brotherskeeper74


The voices crack me up. There are the nords that sound like someone is trying to hard to sound like Arnold S. Then there is
Spoiler:
the talking dog
. when did Jerry Lewis do voice-overs for video games?

Not that I would make fun of him to his face! You see what he did in the cave?!? Holy Feth! Can I have him through the whole game?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 16:54:16


Post by: halonachos


I think the Nords sound like a bad Canadian accent crossed with something European.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 16:57:36


Post by: Soladrin


Spoiler:
Talking to dragons is even funnier, they keep throwing in random made up words


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 16:58:28


Post by: halonachos


Soladrin wrote:
Spoiler:
Talking to dragons is even funnier, they keep throwing in random made up words


Spoiler:
Not to mention they sometimes speak fire.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 17:01:21


Post by: Anvildude


SPOILEr spoiler. spoilerspoilerspoiler.

Spoiler?

Spoiler.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 19:04:43


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


JohnnoM wrote:guys, im probably gonna get it very soon and have a few questions:
1. Whats best race/"class" together, e.g redguard battlemage.
2. Best difficulty to start at?
3. Is it relatively easy?



1. If you want to be a battlemage, you'd prolly want to be Imperial and focus on Destro, Heavy armor, Resto, Block, and One Handed weapons. Imperials get bonuses to all of those skills and you'll want to focus you leveling to be about 60% mana 40% health (gain 60 mana every ten levels and 40 HP every ten levels) With the Mage or Apprentice stone. This is what I run and, while I tend to blow through my mana really quick, Anything that is still alive after a barrage of Dual Ice Storms is usually easy to cut down with my axe.

I only use frost spells (RP choice) so when I fight vamps, or Ghosts (or snowy Sabre cats, or Ice Wolves, or Snow Bears, or anything Dwarven, And any Draug above Restless) so I'll have to switch to sword and board to take them out.

Generally what I've found works with the battlemage though is the old Ork Philosophy " Chop the shooty ones and shoot the Choppy ones". Any Mages? Whirlwind Sprint to them and start hacking away. Any Footsloggers? Turn them into a popsicle. Archers? See mages.



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 19:04:59


Post by: Necros


I'm guessing the answer is no, but is it possible to join the stormcloaks and the empire? like play through 1 storyline, and then do the other? Or would I need 2 different characters for that?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 19:09:13


Post by: halonachos


I think that you could possibly betray one side for another, but I will have to say that the most likely answer is no.

However, if you have any burning questions I just go to the Elder Scrolls wikia.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/The_Elder_Scrolls_Wiki


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 19:28:30


Post by: Avatar 720


I'm staying purely impartial. I do regret, however, the lack of choice of joining Alduin and becoming his vassal, aiding in the destruction of his enemies.

Bethesda, y you no like dragonz?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 19:35:55


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Avatar 720 wrote:I'm staying purely impartial. I do regret, however, the lack of choice of joining Alduin and becoming his vassal, aiding in the destruction of his enemies.

Bethesda, y you no like dragonz?


I feel the same way about Oblivion. Would have been nice to have an option to join the Mythic Dawn Permanently.


They could just call the good guy ending Canon and let us be crazy evil if we want.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 19:41:49


Post by: Anvildude


Bethesda can't do non-canon endings. Remember Daggerfall? Eight possible endings. 8 Canon endings.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 19:46:39


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


They'll have to for the next fallout.

Unless NCR, Caesar's Legion, Mr. House, and Yes Man all won the second battle for Hoover Dam.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 20:01:03


Post by: purplefood


I disliked the Legion for trying to kill me. I like me. As punishment i took that nasty lady's hat.
The Stormcloaks however are really racist...
I figure i'll just kill both sides.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 20:03:31


Post by: Necros


Is Fallout in the same format is Skyrim, where it's just a big open world with ten-thousand-million quests?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 20:03:40


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


Iur_tae_mont wrote:They'll have to for the next fallout.

Unless NCR, Caesar's Legion, Mr. House, and Yes Man all won the second battle for Hoover Dam.

unless they put it somewhere else, like far away from Vegas so no rumors got around, or have the game happen before the events in new vegas


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 20:35:46


Post by: Avatar 720


Well, apparently Dragons really hate Dawnstar, as do Giants. Just took a trip there to offload some stuff onto the Blacksmith, and another dragon attacked (seems to be 1 each time I go there), ate half the residents, and a Giant decided to waddle in and help out.

I was left with my Atronach tanking the Giant, Lydia tanking the Dragon, and me throwing spells around depending on how I felt, because everyone else who came close got launched into orbit or eaten.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 21:17:11


Post by: JohnnoM


lol, can just see this happening:

"hey man you need Heellllpppp...." as he flies away.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 21:17:40


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


Avatar 720 wrote:Well, apparently Dragons really hate Dawnstar, as do Giants. Just took a trip there to offload some stuff onto the Blacksmith, and another dragon attacked (seems to be 1 each time I go there), ate half the residents, and a Giant decided to waddle in and help out.

I was left with my Atronach tanking the Giant, Lydia tanking the Dragon, and me throwing spells around depending on how I felt, because everyone else who came close got launched into orbit or eaten.



I happened to be visitin my "children" in the DB santuary, came outside after talking to momma, to be ambushed by what I thought was just a giant and a dragon... The dragon kinda helped me kill the giant, but about the time i got the dragon down to half life, his twin brother dragon popped in to see who was picking on his "younger brother".. I stomped them both, got good scales and bone from them both


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 21:43:44


Post by: Anvildude


Yeah. On my Imperial mage, I was originally going to side with the Imperials. Then I ran into some Falmer, and they insulted me. So I killed them. I think I may have to go with the Stormcloaks on this one, sorry Empire. But hey, that's what you get for working for douches.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 21:47:21


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


I went Imperial.

While the Empire may be weak right now, the Dominion will falter and we shall rule once again!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 22:12:46


Post by: Necros


Since I'm the Dragonborn, and therefore, the bestest, can't I join the Empire but take it over from Colonel Tigh, and rule the world with a Daedric Armored Fist? It's not like the Emperor is around to tell me no anymore.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 22:19:47


Post by: Swordwind


Urgh, while climbing up the High Hrothgar, a dragon attacked me. Managed to kill it, but while I was looking it my friend Skyped me at the time and I alt-tabbed, resulting in that odd crash that happens when you do that. I was rather pissed, so I walked back up the mountain. It happened again, same spot, but this time I died. Reload, dragon visits again, but never lands or attacks. ):


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 22:28:42


Post by: Slarg232


Does anyone know if Orc's Berserker ability also includes Magic Attacks?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 22:52:39


Post by: Karon


I think what irks me about the Empire is that they are heavily trying to control Skyrim, as it is, right now, their most powerful province economically wise.

Losing Skyrim would mean the entire Legion would likely falter, as is hinted when you side with the Stormcloaks, and that they are no threat anymore as a group.

I don't see the Stormcloaks as racist by any means. There are the bad apples that identify with the Stormcloaks that certainly are racist (the two hillbillies in Windhelm harassing the Drow, for example), but you can ask Galmar directly about why any non-Nord would support them.

He tells you that the Stormcloaks support any Skyrim native, not just the Nords, but makes it clear that Skyrim's traditions that lie primarily with the Nords will not be infringed upon by outsiders.

Also, here are two links about some of the happenings regarding the Aldmeri and why the civil war is happening.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aldmeri_Dominion

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:White-Gold_Concordat


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 22:54:03


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I quite like the empire, I plan on siding with them on most of my characters.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 23:50:28


Post by: Anvildude


Managed to kill a dragon and had the whole 'soul absorbtion' thing happen. Had two shouts that had no soul. Tried to get one, but it said "must have a Dragon Soul to unlock."

What happened to the soul?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/21 23:55:25


Post by: Karon


You must hover over the shout and click "R" and it will fill the shout. Simply clicking on it will prompt that message.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 00:10:11


Post by: Anvildude


Ther you go. Thanks!

On a related note, what are folk's oppinions on the Ethereal shout?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 00:10:32


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


I am displeased with Skyrim now (only slightly, but this makes me sad).


I just figured out there is no button to pick up and hold items.

Now I cannot decorate my house with trophies (as easy as I could in Oblivion).




The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 00:11:07


Post by: Coolyo294


Iur_tae_mont wrote:I am displeased with Skyrim now (only slightly, but this makes me sad).


I just figured out there is no button to pick up and hold items.

Now I cannot decorate my house with trophies (as easy as I could in Oblivion).


Hold down the A button if you're on the Xbox.


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Anvildude wrote:Ther you go. Thanks!

On a related note, what are folk's oppinions on the Ethereal shout?
It can be useful when I need to fall from a high place and survive.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 00:14:12


Post by: Grey Templar


Iur_tae_mont wrote:I am displeased with Skyrim now (only slightly, but this makes me sad).


I just figured out there is no button to pick up and hold items.

Now I cannot decorate my house with trophies (as easy as I could in Oblivion).




Hold down the action button for a couple of seconds.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 00:15:46


Post by: Avatar 720


Iur_tae_mont wrote:I am displeased with Skyrim now (only slightly, but this makes me sad).


I just figured out there is no button to pick up and hold items.

Now I cannot decorate my house with trophies (as easy as I could in Oblivion).




Hold A on the Xbox as Coolyo said, or it's the same with 'E' on a keyboard (unless you've changed your action button, then it might be that one instead). You don't have as much freedom with manipulating objects (it's a LOT harder to put dead bodies in provocative positions, for example) but you can still pick them up and hold them.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 00:18:30


Post by: Anvildude


And not sure if Telekinesis helps at all.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 00:19:09


Post by: Grey Templar


Avatar 720 wrote:(it's a LOT harder to put dead bodies in provocative positions, for example) but you can still pick them up and hold them.


I have a feeling that this was deliberate

However they tend to die much more dramatically and fall in provocative positions now. I end up with alot of kneeling and splaylegged opponents. and the headless ones are always fun.

The one thing I find odd is that the severed heads give you access to the body's inventory. They arn't seperate. its importance when the body goes over a cliff, but the head stays where you are.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 01:21:27


Post by: halonachos


Avatar 720 wrote:
(it's a LOT harder to put dead bodies in provocative positions, for example) but you can still pick them up and hold them.


Why didn't corpses say that?

But yeah, decorating your house seems to be the thing to do and I quite like the plaques that you can put weapons on. On a side note I was looking at some of the Easter Eggs in the game and there are plenty of references to older characters, in fact one of the most annoying characters from Oblivion is mentioned.

Spoiler:
In the Dark Brotherhood, if you read Cicero's Journal Volume 1, he writes; 27th of Rain's Hand, 4E 187 Completed the Arena contract. I ultimately decided to pose as a starstruck fan, and immediately got into the Grand Champion's good graces. While escorting the arrogant fool through the Great Forest, I slashed his throat and left the corpse for the bears.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 01:31:21


Post by: Avatar 720


Half the satisfcation you got from killing people in Oblivion was the fact that you could make it look as if they all died whilst partaking in a sadomasochistic orgy to the next person that happens upon them.

"Finally! You're dead! Now you're going to be going down on your dead bandit friend here as punishment.... Maybe put this wolf in too..."


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 01:31:46


Post by: Slarg232


Blarg, I'm not sure what I want to do.

I'm currently a Fighter using Shouts for Range, but I've always been a mage at heart. However, I would be lieing if I said "I Like how you can only find certain spells" or "Elves are beautiful in this game....."


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 02:13:38


Post by: halonachos


Avatar 720 wrote:Half the satisfcation you got from killing people in Oblivion was the fact that you could make it look as if they all died whilst partaking in a sadomasochistic orgy to the next person that happens upon them.

"Finally! You're dead! Now you're going to be going down on your dead bandit friend here as punishment.... Maybe put this wolf in too..."


I remember when Rainbow Six finally added rag doll physics, I shot this one Russian guard and he fell onto a bench just right so that he seemed like he was posing for the swimsuit edition. Of course killing guards in Oblivion and then placing the hand of one guard on the other guard's butt is funny too.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 04:48:55


Post by: Grey Templar


halonachos wrote:
Avatar 720 wrote:
(it's a LOT harder to put dead bodies in provocative positions, for example) but you can still pick them up and hold them.


Why didn't corpses say that?

But yeah, decorating your house seems to be the thing to do and I quite like the plaques that you can put weapons on. On a side note I was looking at some of the Easter Eggs in the game and there are plenty of references to older characters, in fact one of the most annoying characters from Oblivion is mentioned.

Spoiler:
In the Dark Brotherhood, if you read Cicero's Journal Volume 1, he writes; 27th of Rain's Hand, 4E 187 Completed the Arena contract. I ultimately decided to pose as a starstruck fan, and immediately got into the Grand Champion's good graces. While escorting the arrogant fool through the Great Forest, I slashed his throat and left the corpse for the bears.



There is also

Spoiler:
The guy that sends you on the Nirnroot quest. You find his bones deep in a dwarven ruin and discover he was working on Crimson Nirnroot. More shenanigins with that stipid plant!!!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 04:58:07


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


My favorite is

Spoiler:
When talking to M'aiq the Liar, sometimes he'll say "I saw a Mubcrab the other Day. Horrible Creatures."



Anyone else remember hearing that about 5000 times somewhere before?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 05:01:42


Post by: Grey Templar


Those bloody Mudcrabs.

The funny thing is, now they can actually do some damage and are alot bigger.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 05:07:38


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Oh yeah. They can be nasty little buggers if you let enough of them get close.


In Oblivion, you could have 5 attacking you at once and not even think twice.

Not so much in Skyrim.

Man I love that they kept M'aiq the Liar in the Elder Scrolls games. He is Easily my favorite character ever since Morrowind.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 05:55:54


Post by: Grey Templar


Does he ever do anything beside just stand in random places? He never seems to do anything.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 07:07:54


Post by: nectarprime


Level 33 now, just got Otar's mask and the Ebony Mail. I love this game.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 07:41:06


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Grey Templar wrote:Does he ever do anything beside just stand in random places? He never seems to do anything.



He just wanders the land spreading "rumors (usually in the form of taking shots at complaints from the bethesda forums or[at least twice in skyrim] taking shots at Oblivion)


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 11:38:11


Post by: Soladrin


Well, I've found a problem with the game, enchanting is just way to powerfull..

I finished the main quest 2 days ago. I killed the endboss in 3 power attacks, on master.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 12:30:54


Post by: Nerivant


Soladrin wrote:Well, I've found a problem with the game, enchanting is just way to powerfull..


I have this problem with crafting in general. Enchanting let my mage cast spells for no cost and combining all three makes you unstoppable.

It's going to be tough going back to playing a thief/assassin and not being able to improve my equipment to god-like levels.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 13:13:17


Post by: Soladrin


Yeah, I didn't even add alchemy shenanigens to the mix, and I'm toting 1100 armor and 300+ damage weapons.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 14:28:32


Post by: Necros


I'm not crafting my own gear, but I put the 2 perks into smithing so I can upgrade magic items. My smithing is around 70 something now. I have a ring and necklace to buff smithing and if I take a smithing potion, I can sharpen my blades to be Flawless and some lower level items to be Epic.. you can really add a lot of extra damage that way, or extra armor too.

It's easy enough to raise your smithing too, I'll head to Riften, steal all the iron and steel from the smith house in the basement, then go buy the iron he has, then go to Whiterun and buy all the iron from the 2 smiths right when you enter town, then get tons of leather straps and make like 80 iron daggers. Do a quest to kill time so merchants restock, and then rinse & repeat.

Then you add on some good enchants and you're all set. I was all about daggers for a while, but you need swords for heavy armored folks so now I use 2 ebony swords that steal health, and I have a 3rd that steals souls for charging up your gems to recharge your enchants.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 14:53:53


Post by: nectarprime


Anyone have a good source for Daedra hearts? I know the guy at the mage college stocks 2 every 2 days, but I can't find any others.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 15:02:33


Post by: Coolyo294


Babette in the Dark Brotherhood sells one.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 15:12:02


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Mehrunes dagon's shrine spawns daedra after the quest is completed.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 15:12:17


Post by: nectarprime


Coolyo294 wrote:Babette in the Dark Brotherhood sells one.


Ah, another reason for me to do those quests! Thanks.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 15:34:58


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


I've not taken up Smithing or Enchanting yet. Too easy to break the game.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 16:07:24


Post by: Necros


I need it, I suck too bad :(

I found myself a quest where I have to bring one of my companions to a temple, and then kill em. But, I just don't know who I want to sacrifice :(

There's Lydia, she was pretty helpful and I think it's funny how she's stuck in my house getting up and sitting down in the same chair over and over to infinity.

There's my wife Mjoll from Riften, who still has that guy wandering around my house telling me how upset she is about Riften, even though we don't live there. I wish I could get him to follow me, he'd be a worthy sacrifice. If my wife dies, can I marry someone else? maybe someone who doesn't roll every R? Her little store does come in handy though...

There's the mage fella from that Dawnstar quest, never really used him other than on his quest.

Then there's an assassin student in the DB hideout that I can have come with me, but the DBs all love me so that wouldn't be nice. Guess I'll have to just hire some guy from an inn.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 16:16:39


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Necros wrote:I need it, I suck too bad :(

I found myself a quest where I have to bring one of my companions to a temple, and then kill em. But, I just don't know who I want to sacrifice :(

There's Lydia, she was pretty helpful and I think it's funny how she's stuck in my house getting up and sitting down in the same chair over and over to infinity.

There's my wife Mjoll from Riften, who still has that guy wandering around my house telling me how upset she is about Riften, even though we don't live there. I wish I could get him to follow me, he'd be a worthy sacrifice. If my wife dies, can I marry someone else? maybe someone who doesn't roll every R? Her little store does come in handy though...

There's the mage fella from that Dawnstar quest, never really used him other than on his quest.

Then there's an assassin student in the DB hideout that I can have come with me, but the DBs all love me so that wouldn't be nice. Guess I'll have to just hire some guy from an inn.



I say Lydia because she is always sitting at the table in the master bedroom, watching me sleep.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 16:22:09


Post by: Duce


Soladrin wrote:Yeah, I didn't even add alchemy shenanigens to the mix, and I'm toting 1100 armor and 300+ damage weapons.


What did you do perks wise? max Blacksmithing and max enchanting? rest into armours and weapon choice?



Also anyone know if you can redo your perks or is it once done you're stuck with them?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 16:23:27


Post by: nectarprime


I sacrificed Belrand. He annoyed me.

Here's a tip if you have a melee oriented companion that keeps getting killed: give them two staffs and remove their melee weapons. They'll sit back and sling spells. Even better, get one of the companions that is a pure caster, like Marcurio.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 16:37:48


Post by: Earthbeard


nectarprime wrote:Anyone have a good source for Daedra hearts? I know the guy at the mage college stocks 2 every 2 days, but I can't find any others.


The Orc Stronghold alchemist hs one normally.


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Duce wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Yeah, I didn't even add alchemy shenanigens to the mix, and I'm toting 1100 armor and 300+ damage weapons.


What did you do perks wise? max Blacksmithing and max enchanting? rest into armours and weapon choice?



Also anyone know if you can redo your perks or is it once done you're stuck with them?


You can use the console commands if you play on the PC to remove them, but otherwise, no other way of changing perks once chosen, which is a little disheartening....


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 16:38:57


Post by: Necros


hmm I like that staff idea. My biggest problem with companions is they just can't sneak like I do.. or if I want to snipe with my bow, they charge in as soon as I fire the first shot. So I've been leaving my companions home. I don't even like when you're stuck with one on a quest. I just let them tank and get knocked down over and over and I sit back and shoot. If I hit em, who cares, they're invincible during the quest anyway.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 16:52:38


Post by: Manchu


@Karon: The idea that the Stormcloaks support all Skyrim natives is deceptive. What's his definition of "native"? Take a look at how Ulfric treats the Dunmer and Argonians of Windhelm and tell me his movement isn't racist.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 17:04:02


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Skyrim for the Nords!



From the UESP Article on Ulfric Stormcloak

Many non-Nords (and even a few Nords) consider him racist for his apparent treatment of non-Nords in his Hold of Windhelm, specifically Dunmer. Some within the city of Windhelm, of which Ulfirc is jarl, even reveal that he refuses to send aid to caravans and towns that have been victims of bandit raids within his hold if the victims were not Nords.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 17:06:15


Post by: purplefood


Manchu wrote:@Karon: The idea that the Stormcloaks support all Skyrim natives is deceptive. What's his definition of "native"? Take a look at how Ulfric treats the Dunmer and Argonians of Windhelm and tell me his movement isn't racist.

This is exacty what i was talking about...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 17:20:59


Post by: Soladrin


Duce wrote:
Soladrin wrote:Yeah, I didn't even add alchemy shenanigens to the mix, and I'm toting 1100 armor and 300+ damage weapons.


What did you do perks wise? max Blacksmithing and max enchanting? rest into armours and weapon choice?



Also anyone know if you can redo your perks or is it once done you're stuck with them?


Yeah, maxed one handed damage and maxed the first heavy armor perk (don't even have the set bonus yet ) Smithing, all perks for the hell of it. And with enchanting just the middle path.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 18:21:44


Post by: Necros


For those of you on the PC version.. since it's a single player game, do you need any kind of steam account or online account mumbo-jumbo to play? Or is it like a stand-alone kinda game?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 18:25:01


Post by: Ma55ter_fett


purplefood wrote:
Manchu wrote:@Karon: The idea that the Stormcloaks support all Skyrim natives is deceptive. What's his definition of "native"? Take a look at how Ulfric treats the Dunmer and Argonians of Windhelm and tell me his movement isn't racist.

This is exacty what i was talking about...


Plus he's a bit of a wuss, lets you do all the fighting and only shows up for the final battle in his quest line... then doesn't have the balls to finish the job himself.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 18:48:55


Post by: Avatar 720


Necros wrote:For those of you on the PC version.. since it's a single player game, do you need any kind of steam account or online account mumbo-jumbo to play? Or is it like a stand-alone kinda game?


You will need steam.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 19:34:55


Post by: Soladrin


How do you get the quest for Mehrunes Dagon?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 19:58:55


Post by: Chowderhead


Soladrin wrote:How do you get the quest for Mehrunes Dagon?

Go to the Mythic Dawn Museum. A courier will give you a note, and a misc quest will start saying "Go to the Museum".


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 20:11:44


Post by: Necros


hmm.. i thought this was kinda interesting...

http://ppsh-41.tumblr.com/post/13145143504/entire-tamriel-landmass-built-into-skyrim


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 20:17:07


Post by: Chowderhead


Necros wrote:hmm.. i thought this was kinda interesting...

http://ppsh-41.tumblr.com/post/13145143504/entire-tamriel-landmass-built-into-skyrim

Yeah, that reeks of DLC/Expansion Pack to me.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 20:24:08


Post by: metallifan


DLC or no, once Bethesda releases the Skyrim modding tools, you can bet that people are going to do amazing things with those landmasses. It would be awesome beyond awesome if someone recreated both TES Oblivion and TES Morrowind in Skyrim. Imagine, playing those games all over again with an updated engine and vastly improved graphics...

Not to mention, revisiting the Imperial City of 200 years later, and seeing how much it's grown, either in Bethesda's vision or that of the modding community, would be simply amazing.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 20:39:37


Post by: Corpsesarefun


The Imperial city probably won't be in great shape at this point in time.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 21:13:45


Post by: Grey Templar


yeah, from what i have gathered, all of Tamrial is pretty much gone to pot. Skyrim is in the best shape of anywhere in the Empire, which is why the Rebellion is so serious.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 21:35:08


Post by: purplefood


Grey Templar wrote:yeah, from what i have gathered, all of Tamrial is pretty much gone to pot. Skyrim is in the best shape of anywhere in the Empire, which is why the Rebellion is so serious.

In fairness the High Elves seem to be doing fairly well so they're probably having a good time of it...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 21:35:46


Post by: halonachos


Finally killed a bear and a blood dragon, more proud of killing that bear though.

I have a nice little house in Riften and when you get the enchanting upgrade you get two mannequins so I have a mannequin wearing Ulfric's clothes, and the other one wearing a Thalmor Justiciar's hooded robes. Can't tell me that I can't talk about Talos...

I had a glitch on the thieve's guild mission when you're supposed to tail that Argonian, instead of just walking he ended up flying into the air never to be seen again. Thank god for console commands.

Riften house has one little spot that I don't think I can upgrade which is really weird and bugging the hell out of me.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 21:38:43


Post by: johnscott10


Necros wrote:hmm.. i thought this was kinda interesting...

http://ppsh-41.tumblr.com/post/13145143504/entire-tamriel-landmass-built-into-skyrim


It looks to me that perhaps Bethesda is simply showing off that they could include all provinces into one massive map if they wanted. I think it would be epic! and a bit OTT lol. A 300+ hour games suddenly becomes a lifetime game XD.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 21:43:59


Post by: metallifan


corpsesarefun wrote:The Imperial city probably won't be in great shape at this point in time.


It wasn't really in great shape back in Oblivion either Still would love to go back and see what's changed in 200 years. Apparently Anvil's grown -huge-, and the plains outside were the site of a major battle during the great war.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 21:45:39


Post by: Avatar 720


Was that after you took down the World Breaker? Because to be fair that battle wasn't even a minor skirmish, more an organised kerfufflle.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 21:47:26


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Damn. You guys beat me to it.

I wanted to post that. >.>



But yeah, it looks like Bethesda has no excuse for not giving us at least 4 Shivering Isles-esque DLCs.


Will make this game horrendously long though. Like so long that I won't need another game until ES6.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 21:52:15


Post by: Akroma06


Chowderhead wrote:
Necros wrote:hmm.. i thought this was kinda interesting...

http://ppsh-41.tumblr.com/post/13145143504/entire-tamriel-landmass-built-into-skyrim

Yeah, that reeks of DLC/Expansion Pack to me.


Agreed. I've been wondering what they would do with a DLC and a quest to Cyrodil or Morrowind/Vvardenfall would be awesome. Having it on xbox I never would have known this was out there. I really hope it isn't just as a modders tool. Maybe a visit to the imperial city or solsthiem?

Either way the banning of talos and the attitude of the Aldmeri Dominion really ticks me off. I can't stand them and what the empire allowed to happen. I do remember reading a book how that wearing the Amulet of Kings only required the wearer to be dragonborn not actually a Septim. Explains why the bad guy from oblivion (can't remember his name) was able to wear it. Maybe some divine intervention to deal with the seperation of Hammerfell, Aldmeri Dominion, Cyrodil, and Skyrim?

I'm pretty sure talos is a divine since he helps you with the KotN. Gotta give some respect Imperials!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 21:55:06


Post by: halonachos


I'm finding most of the guild quests to be fairly easy, its running around and navigating the map that's my largest issue. I'm not going to bother getting a horse because I know that if I do a fething dragon is going to come out of nowhere and probably take it away.

Me: Yay I got a horse, exploring will be so much faster!

Dragon: *swoops in and steals horse*

Me: Screw you dragon!

Dragon: *troll face* Fus Rah Bro?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 22:04:44


Post by: metallifan


Avatar 720 wrote:Was that after you took down the World Breaker? Because to be fair that battle wasn't even a minor skirmish, more an organised kerfufflle.


Which is why Elder Scrolls should be banned on Consoles Bethesda can't do their own series justice. Leave it to modders to make that battle go from a dozen or so to several hundred

In all seriousness though, no that wasn't it - the great war was between the Imperium and the Aldmarri Dominion. You're thinking of the Oblivion Crisis.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 22:21:49


Post by: Avatar 720


I knew which period I was thinking of, I just wanted an excuse to use the word 'kerfuffle' to describe a supposedly epic conflict


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 22:29:10


Post by: Karon


Yeah, I see that, Manchu.

Both aren't ideal, but rarely is it any different.

I can see the pros and cons to both, but it seems the canon ending is largely leaning towards Ulfric ruling considering Hamerfell ceceded, and that might be a vibe they want to go with.

The Imperial Legion might only have little Cyrrodil to oppress soon.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/22 22:55:22


Post by: Akroma06


Karon wrote:Yeah, I see that, Manchu.

Both aren't ideal, but rarely is it any different.

I can see the pros and cons to both, but it seems the canon ending is largely leaning towards Ulfric ruling considering Hamerfell ceceded, and that might be a vibe they want to go with.

The Imperial Legion might only have little Cyrrodil to oppress soon.

That and I believe both Black Marsh and Elswyr joined the Aldmeri Dominion (summerset isle and valenwood). Also hamerfell didn't so much ceceed as it was kicked out since they refused to go by the White-Gold Concordant and the legion was in an extremely weakend state.

Spoiler:

I believe if you stay neutral you can have the two party's meet and work out some kind of peace deal so that both sides are happy


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 00:22:03


Post by: Grey Templar


purplefood wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:yeah, from what i have gathered, all of Tamrial is pretty much gone to pot. Skyrim is in the best shape of anywhere in the Empire, which is why the Rebellion is so serious.

In fairness the High Elves seem to be doing fairly well so they're probably having a good time of it...


Well they are the reason for all the issues so it would stand to reason they are doing well.

Another reason to slay every Altmer on sight


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 00:47:30


Post by: Avatar 720


Is it just me, or is lockpicking ludicrously easy now? The tumbler system of Oblivion was much more about timing, and your skill factored into that, i've not got a single perk in lockpicking, and I can open Master-level locks as if they were Novice-level. Just tap the 'a' button in a few places around the lock (only a select few will instantly break your pick) to check for give, then try with 'd', and gradually move closer to the sweet spot when the lock gives.

This change seems to have ultimately trivialised lockpicking to the point where i've got excessive amounts of picks because they simply do not get broken.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 00:52:48


Post by: Perkustin


Anyone else found Lucky Lorenz? A laugh in an Elder scrolls game that isnt at the expense of the developers.

EDIT in regards to the landmass AFAIK crude geometry like that isnt exactly time consuming or processor aggreiving to create, i imagine they just did it so you could see 'something' if you got up high enough. I remember the sixth level of halo 2 on the original xbox having a MASSIVE area out with the normal level (just took some cunning exploits involving pelicans to get there).



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 01:25:00


Post by: metallifan


Perkustin wrote:EDIT in regards to the landmass AFAIK crude geometry like that isnt exactly time consuming or processor aggreiving to create, i imagine they just did it so you could see 'something' if you got up high enough. I remember the sixth level of halo 2 on the original xbox having a MASSIVE area out with the normal level (just took some cunning exploits involving pelicans to get there).


That would make sense to a degree... But the -entire- provinces of Morrowind and Cyrodiil? And that's only what he managed to explore before getting bored. There's no way that, without turning off clipping, you could see the Imperial City from the edge of the game map. The map would fade well before then. My guess is modders' resource, as I can't see them adding an entire game world worth of territory in a $10.00 Adventure DLC.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 01:28:08


Post by: Grey Templar


Avatar 720 wrote:Is it just me, or is lockpicking ludicrously easy now? The tumbler system of Oblivion was much more about timing, and your skill factored into that, i've not got a single perk in lockpicking, and I can open Master-level locks as if they were Novice-level. Just tap the 'a' button in a few places around the lock (only a select few will instantly break your pick) to check for give, then try with 'd', and gradually move closer to the sweet spot when the lock gives.

This change seems to have ultimately trivialised lockpicking to the point where i've got excessive amounts of picks because they simply do not get broken.


Its easier and harder at the same time. No auto-solve button.


The proper positioning can take many picks to get right and you can burn through alot of lock picks on a hard chest.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 01:38:03


Post by: Nerivant


metallifan wrote:There's no way that, without turning off clipping, you could see the Imperial City from the edge of the game map. The map would fade well before then. My guess is modders' resource, as I can't see them adding an entire game world worth of territory in a $10.00 Adventure DLC.


Actually, you can see the White Gold Tower in some spots without console commands.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 01:43:04


Post by: Stormfather


Perkustin wrote:
In regards to the landmass AFAIK crude geometry like that isnt exactly time consuming or processor aggreiving to create, i imagine they just did it so you could see 'something' if you got up high enough. I remember the sixth level of halo 2 on the original xbox having a MASSIVE area out with the normal level (just took some cunning exploits involving pelicans to get there).


I've used the heightmap editor in FO:NV quite a bit, the following assumption is based off of that. It's a pretty simple and intuitive program, you can make the paintbrush as big or as small as as you want, and it's got a pretty powerful erosion tool. You can make a pretty rough elevation map, then run varying degrees of erosion and smoothing on different areas, and get a good looking area with very little legwork. Making a crude elevation map (no textures, vegitation, rocks, etc) probably took someone between a few hours and a few days, depending on the level of detail.

I'm looking forward to the arrival of my new computer so I can check this out.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 02:17:32


Post by: metallifan


Nerivant wrote:Actually, you can see the White Gold Tower in some spots without console commands.


Seeing the silhouette of the White Gold tower off in the distance is very different from seeing the whole Imperial City. That doesn't require the level of detail they put into the OOB map. They could've just done bits and pieces. Looking at those photos, they went way beyond what was needed, hence why I'm thinking intentionally left as modder's resource. Sure, it probably wasn't hard for them to do all of it, but it was far more than what they needed.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 03:16:25


Post by: GalacticDefender


ANyone know where I can find the entire title theme? ALl I have been able to find is about a minute of it claiming to be the full version. I want the whole friggin thing, where they are pretty much singing the Morrowind theme, but EPICLY. Ya know?



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 03:18:06


Post by: Chowderhead





The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 03:35:08


Post by: GalacticDefender


I mean one that I can download? I want to drive through the town square with this blowing out my car's speakers. Really.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 03:44:29


Post by: Chowderhead


www.keepvid.com


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 03:50:59


Post by: Sasori


Well, I've put over 50 hours into the game so far, and am having a real blast.

Best looking armor in the game I think so far, would have to be the Nightingale armor.

I sided with the legion, because I thought Ulfric was a jerk. The guy was a total racist, and his city showed that. It was very satisfying when I took his head off.

Nothing I've fought recently is a challenge anymore, I can pretty much kill everything pretty easy, though I still have a ton more to explore.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 03:52:44


Post by: GalacticDefender


Chowderhead wrote:www.keepvid.com


Wut?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 03:53:16


Post by: halonachos


Killing them one on one is relatively easy, now when they swarm that's a whole new story. I geeked out a bit when I could chop firewood, don't know why I did it or exactly what its used for, but I chopped firewood.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 04:01:12


Post by: Karon


I'm still unsure on Ulfric.

He did deny resources and help to people, but its in a full on civil war. I probably wouldn't help anyone except those that were most likely to fight for me too.

I think that the Dovahkiin could influence Ulfric to a large degree, so I'm sticking with him.

I just don't like the Legion having their hands in everything, when Skyrim is clearly stronger on their own. The Legion showed how easily influenced it was in the Great War, and the final acceptance of the White-Gold Concordant.

They bowed to the Aldmeri, and I'm thinking Skyrim needs to develop relationships with Hammerfell and the Orsinium.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 04:54:14


Post by: TheWildHost


halonachos wrote:Killing them one on one is relatively easy, now when they swarm that's a whole new story. I geeked out a bit when I could chop firewood, don't know why I did it or exactly what its used for, but I chopped firewood.


You sell it to the owner of the place you chop it for 5 gold a piece, so each time you hit A to go to the block( IM talking on Xbox controller) you get 30 gold, decent I earned 1500 over 40 min. while talking to friends


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 06:26:25


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Karon wrote:I'm still unsure on Ulfric.

He did deny resources and help to people, but its in a full on civil war. I probably wouldn't help anyone except those that were most likely to fight for me too.

I think that the Dovahkiin could influence Ulfric to a large degree, so I'm sticking with him.

I just don't like the Legion having their hands in everything, when Skyrim is clearly stronger on their own. The Legion showed how easily influenced it was in the Great War, and the final acceptance of the White-Gold Concordant.

They bowed to the Aldmeri, and I'm thinking Skyrim needs to develop relationships with Hammerfell and the Orsinium.



Had Ulfric aided the non Nord settlements within eastmarch Hold, they probably would have joined him.

And Remember

Spoiler:
the Thalmor lost the great war. I'm still not sure why the While Gold Concordant happened, but the Empire won the great war. They( the Aldmeri Dominion) have Ulfric listed as a Dormant asset because losing the civil war will weaken the Empire. If Banning Talos worship happened when the Empire won, I would hate to see what happens during round two after the Stormcloaks win the Civil War.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 06:47:46


Post by: halonachos


Ulfric is an idiot, he goes and kills the high-king and then says that its okay because he did it according to Nord tradition, but when you take that axe from the Jarl of Whiterun he goes against Nord tradition by invading instead of facing him one-on-one.

It doesn't seem like the Imperials are forcing culture changes in Skyrim and its more like they're okay with what they do so much as they pay taxes.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 07:11:32


Post by: metallifan


I killed Ulfric. And I loved every second of it. Ave Imperitor!

Spoiler:
Well.. Okay, I didn't kill him. General Tullius the super Canuck did. Ulfric wanted me to kill him. I decided not to give that smug bastard the satisfaction of his final wish.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 07:29:09


Post by: Coolyo294


metallifan wrote:I killed Ulfric. And I loved every second of it. Ave Imperitor!

Spoiler:
Well.. Okay, I didn't kill him. General Tullius the super Canuck did. Ulfric wanted me to kill him. I decided not to give that smug bastard the satisfaction of his final wish.
Spoiler:
Did you still get Tulliu's awesome sword of health drainage?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 07:46:12


Post by: Sasori


Coolyo294 wrote:
metallifan wrote:I killed Ulfric. And I loved every second of it. Ave Imperitor!

Spoiler:
Well.. Okay, I didn't kill him. General Tullius the super Canuck did. Ulfric wanted me to kill him. I decided not to give that smug bastard the satisfaction of his final wish.
Spoiler:
Did you still get Tulliu's awesome sword of health drainage?


I Duel Wield that Blade and Chillrend. It's quite awesome. It's even better with my max blacksmithing, I enhanced both of them, and they do double damage now.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 07:49:39


Post by: Laughing Man


I got rid of Chillrend. It didn't do enough damage. >.>


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 08:44:34


Post by: Soladrin


Yeah, none of the weapons you can find are actually better then what i can make...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 11:16:18


Post by: Sasori


Laughing Man wrote:I got rid of Chillrend. It didn't do enough damage. >.>


Did you Enhance it with Blacksmithing? It more than doubled it's damage after I made it Legendary.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 14:54:34


Post by: Karon


halonachos wrote:Ulfric is an idiot, he goes and kills the high-king and then says that its okay because he did it according to Nord tradition, but when you take that axe from the Jarl of Whiterun he goes against Nord tradition by invading instead of facing him one-on-one.

It doesn't seem like the Imperials are forcing culture changes in Skyrim and its more like they're okay with what they do so much as they pay taxes.


Ulfric OFFERED alliegance, or war. How do you expect him to walk into Whiterun when it was blatantly clear what his intentions would be after what he did to the "High King" that was little more than an imperial puppet?

Iur_tae_mont wrote:
Karon wrote:I'm still unsure on Ulfric.

He did deny resources and help to people, but its in a full on civil war. I probably wouldn't help anyone except those that were most likely to fight for me too.

I think that the Dovahkiin could influence Ulfric to a large degree, so I'm sticking with him.

I just don't like the Legion having their hands in everything, when Skyrim is clearly stronger on their own. The Legion showed how easily influenced it was in the Great War, and the final acceptance of the White-Gold Concordant.

They bowed to the Aldmeri, and I'm thinking Skyrim needs to develop relationships with Hammerfell and the Orsinium.



Had Ulfric aided the non Nord settlements within eastmarch Hold, they probably would have joined him.

And Remember

Spoiler:
the Thalmor lost the great war. I'm still not sure why the While Gold Concordant happened, but the Empire won the great war. They( the Aldmeri Dominion) have Ulfric listed as a Dormant asset because losing the civil war will weaken the Empire. If Banning Talos worship happened when the Empire won, I would hate to see what happens during round two after the Stormcloaks win the Civil War.


Spoiler:
Indeed, I read this earlier and just finished the quests where I found those dossiers on Ulfric and such in the Thalmor Embassy. The Empire signed the WGC because they wanted to end the war on a good note, and not just proclaim "We won, you lose!", so they made ridiculous concessions that they expected the rest of the provinces to follow. Hammerfell clearly did not agree, and ceceded, and Skyrim has every right to do the same, and it would have if Imperial roots had dug so deep into it at the time of the treaty.

If you remember, the Thalmor dossier also notes that a direct victory by Ulfric should be avoided at all costs, and is the worst possible thing that could happen. They want him to stay dormant and just keep being a distraction so if the Thalmor attacked, Skyrim soldiers couldn't assist lest the Stormcloaks take control.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 14:57:27


Post by: Ratius


There was a mini patch out recently.
Warning: if you start taking screenshots after you apply this patch it'll overwrite your old ones.
/sigh


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 15:10:13


Post by: Necros


I agree about the nightingale armor, love the cloak and stuff. I also found a bug (I think) where I'm able to wear my ancient shrouded hood, which doesn't show up when I wear it but I still get the archery bonus, and then I can wear the nightingale hood and get that bonus too.

One thing that bugs me is the thief and db boots that muffle your footsteps. That's great and all, but I have the Silence perk since I maxed Sneak, so I don't need that on my boots too. Yet all the roguey sets have that on the boots. I'm guessing silence + boots doesn't make me even quieter, so one of em is a waste.

Right now I'm using Childrend, Mace of Molag Bal and Nightingale bow, and a mix of nightingale and ancient shrouded armor, all flawless for now. I was thinking about making some smithing enchanted cloths and drinking up a potion then reupgrading again to try and get it all legendary


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 16:01:59


Post by: halonachos


Karon wrote:
halonachos wrote:Ulfric is an idiot, he goes and kills the high-king and then says that its okay because he did it according to Nord tradition, but when you take that axe from the Jarl of Whiterun he goes against Nord tradition by invading instead of facing him one-on-one.

It doesn't seem like the Imperials are forcing culture changes in Skyrim and its more like they're okay with what they do so much as they pay taxes.


Ulfric OFFERED alliegance, or war. How do you expect him to walk into Whiterun when it was blatantly clear what his intentions would be after what he did to the "High King" that was little more than an imperial puppet?


In the Imperial quest line you walk directly into Windhelm to deliver the message to Ulfric. After Ulfric threatens Whiterun the Jarl decides that instead of having a war he wants to settle it in the traditional manner with a one-on-one fight. It would be possible for Ulfric to enter Whiterun because there was no Imperial garrison in Whiterun and the town guards follow the orders of the Jarl so the Jarl could tell them to stand down or he could meet Ulfric in a neutral area, there are ways that it could be done.

Ulfric offered it, but when confronted with the traditional method of dealing with the issue he shirked away from it like a coward. Ulfric murdered the High-king and guised it as a cultural method of solving such issues and then decided not to follow his own culture by denying a challenge from the Jarl. At least the Legion doesn't murder kings and then say "That's how our people do it." and don't follow tradition when confronted in the same manner.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 16:05:16


Post by: Avatar 720


I guess, being an Altmer, I should side with the Imperials, but there's just something about having the Elves on one side of the Imperials, and Ulfric, advised by an Altmer dragonborn on the other, that makes me think it might help the keep the Imperials far more in check than the Elves could do alone. It also leaves the Imperials with one less landmass upon which they can plot to overthrow us.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 16:12:13


Post by: Karon


halonachos wrote:
Karon wrote:
halonachos wrote:Ulfric is an idiot, he goes and kills the high-king and then says that its okay because he did it according to Nord tradition, but when you take that axe from the Jarl of Whiterun he goes against Nord tradition by invading instead of facing him one-on-one.

It doesn't seem like the Imperials are forcing culture changes in Skyrim and its more like they're okay with what they do so much as they pay taxes.


Ulfric OFFERED alliegance, or war. How do you expect him to walk into Whiterun when it was blatantly clear what his intentions would be after what he did to the "High King" that was little more than an imperial puppet?


In the Imperial quest line you walk directly into Windhelm to deliver the message to Ulfric. After Ulfric threatens Whiterun the Jarl decides that instead of having a war he wants to settle it in the traditional manner with a one-on-one fight. It would be possible for Ulfric to enter Whiterun because there was no Imperial garrison in Whiterun and the town guards follow the orders of the Jarl so the Jarl could tell them to stand down or he could meet Ulfric in a neutral area, there are ways that it could be done.

Ulfric offered it, but when confronted with the traditional method of dealing with the issue he shirked away from it like a coward. Ulfric murdered the High-king and guised it as a cultural method of solving such issues and then decided not to follow his own culture by denying a challenge from the Jarl. At least the Legion doesn't murder kings and then say "That's how our people do it." and don't follow tradition when confronted in the same manner.


See, that's strange, because in the Stormcloak questline, you deliver the axe, bring it back to Ulfric as it was declined, and then you assault Whiterun..there is no response from Balgruuf or whatever is name is aside from that.

I think it will depend on which questline Bethesda decides is canon, but you are wrong on one thing.

Ulfric challenged the High King to their ritual combat, and he had to accept. The High King was simply a puppet prince of the Legion, so he was easily defeated by the Voice and a sword through the chest. He didn't murder him in any sense of the word, that's just how the Legion wants it to look like.

As well, I don't really think I can side with the Legion after they told me I was a criminal scum a thousand times in Oblivion....


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 16:21:42


Post by: Duce


So to confirm, you get 50 perk points right to spend (up to L50 then it stops but you can continue leveling other skills?).

And for Xbox users there is no way to swap points around? If so damn I hope i haven't ruined my build.



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 16:23:47


Post by: Necros


I think I read that 50 is a soft cap, and you can keep leveling it's just that XP goes really, really slow after 50.. the real cap is 70 or 80 or something?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 16:41:31


Post by: Karon


soft cap is 50, real cap is 70, and you cannot replace points.

You can on the PC, but its so frustrating and stupid with console commands its not even worth it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 16:41:45


Post by: mattyrm


Im a staunch Imperial in real life, so I sided with the Empire, proudly swearing fealty to the emperor.

Unfortunately, after crushing the stormcloaks, I have since started the DB questline, It crushed me to kill his niece at her wedding, but I managed it. Poisoning who I thought was the big E was even harder, and now I have to board his boat and kill him in cold blood?!

If I pull it off i think ill go home and beat my wife to death whilst weeping tears of rage....

I can put my amulet back on and get another wife though right?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 16:57:23


Post by: Manchu


There's a lot in this game that isn't very heroic. In fact, I'm hard pressed to think of much good you do in the world. Even fighting off dragons is more of a sport than a moral imperative.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, Ulfric is no coward or murderer. But he is a racist.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 19:14:18


Post by: Soladrin


Actually the mathematical cap is 81, that needs all skills on 100.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 19:19:25


Post by: thenoobbomb


Ulfric is the most awsome guy.
He is cooler then Tullius.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 19:38:33


Post by: Laughing Man


Sasori wrote:
Laughing Man wrote:I got rid of Chillrend. It didn't do enough damage. >.>


Did you Enhance it with Blacksmithing? It more than doubled it's damage after I made it Legendary.

Yep. My legendary daedrics with dual frost/fire chants are a hell of a lot better.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 19:41:11


Post by: Chowderhead


Honestly, after I sacked Solitude with Ulprick (Not a typo, guy's kind of an ass.), I hoped there was an option to challenge him to Combat and become the next king. I just pretend that after I'm done killing dragons and gak, I stick my axe into that racist pig's fething skull.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/23 20:25:17


Post by: Necros


Can't you just sneak your way into the castle and kill him anyway?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 00:50:08


Post by: purplefood


thenoobbomb wrote:Ulfric is the most awsome guy.
He is cooler then Tullius.

Although i can't say i like the legion for trying to kill me at least they have a reason other than 'he's an elf and not like us'
Ulfric on the other hand doesn't have much more of a reason...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 01:06:45


Post by: Karon


purplefood wrote:
thenoobbomb wrote:Ulfric is the most awsome guy.
He is cooler then Tullius.

Although i can't say i like the legion for trying to kill me at least they have a reason other than 'he's an elf and not like us'
Ulfric on the other hand doesn't have much more of a reason...


Ulfric is in wartime, he is not going to help everyone. His reasoning may be that he will only assist those most likely to assist him (the Nords).

He's not a dumb guy, and you saying that he started this war because he is a racist is only showing your ignorance.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 01:15:32


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


So, I killed the big E, but havent chosen imperials or stormcloaks, should I stick on the path of 'bad' and go stormcloaks, cause I dont think I can take the oath to honor the emperor seriously...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 01:22:12


Post by: purplefood


Karon wrote:
purplefood wrote:
thenoobbomb wrote:Ulfric is the most awsome guy.
He is cooler then Tullius.

Although i can't say i like the legion for trying to kill me at least they have a reason other than 'he's an elf and not like us'
Ulfric on the other hand doesn't have much more of a reason...


Ulfric is in wartime, he is not going to help everyone. His reasoning may be that he will only assist those most likely to assist him (the Nords).

He's not a dumb guy, and you saying that he started this war because he is a racist is only showing your ignorance.

I'm not saying he has to help everyone...
It's just that his enemies seem to be 'all of the above' rather than just 'the empire'.
Also there is a difference between not helping and actively beating people down...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 01:28:09


Post by: Grey Templar


Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:So, I killed the big E, but havent chosen imperials or stormcloaks, should I stick on the path of 'bad' and go stormcloaks, cause I dont think I can take the oath to honor the emperor seriously...


That would cause some complications


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 02:30:09


Post by: Karon


purplefood wrote:
Karon wrote:
purplefood wrote:
thenoobbomb wrote:Ulfric is the most awsome guy.
He is cooler then Tullius.

Although i can't say i like the legion for trying to kill me at least they have a reason other than 'he's an elf and not like us'
Ulfric on the other hand doesn't have much more of a reason...


Ulfric is in wartime, he is not going to help everyone. His reasoning may be that he will only assist those most likely to assist him (the Nords).

He's not a dumb guy, and you saying that he started this war because he is a racist is only showing your ignorance.

I'm not saying he has to help everyone...
It's just that his enemies seem to be 'all of the above' rather than just 'the empire'.
Also there is a difference between not helping and actively beating people down...


The problem with Skyrim is that the legion directly gave a big "feth you" to Skyrim with the White-Gold Concordant, the place that takes Talos extremely seriously, and then they expect them to deal with it.

Its like if you banned Judaism in Israel...you can bet your ass everyone would be shunning outsiders and starting an uprising.

I don't think you are grasping the part that he is in the middle of a civil war, that he is a major part of. He isn't going to help anyone that isn't helping him.

War is ugly, and Ulfric will use any scapegoat, like foreigners, to fuel the rage of his army. Is it right? No. Do the means justify the ends? I think so.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 03:43:05


Post by: Grey Templar


Anyone else have the problem that when you finish cleansing Meridia's shrine and you finish talking with her in the sky that you actually fall to your death?

I did it three times before I actually landed safely on her shrine.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 07:11:06


Post by: Anvildude


I don't believe those people graduated middle school, judging from the number of grammatical errors in that post.

See, I'm hoping it's satire (and judging from a lot of the language used, it most likely is) but I'm pessimistic enough about modern man that I'm legitimately worried it's not.

Though if it is? Man, whoever thought of putting a 'Science' section with Satan's Internet and Lies of Evolution right above Tech Review and Weather was a genius.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 07:24:03


Post by: johnscott10


Doctadeth wrote:http://christwire.org/2011/11/is-skyrim-teaching-your-children-how-to-perform-rim-jobs-and-other-homo-erotic-sex-maneuvers/

Discuss.


Given that the site is christwire (and sorry if this offends anybody what i say next is purely my own opinion) then its just talking about a pile of crap just like the Bible.

Do note that its not just Christianity that I hate, I hate all forms of religion equally. They just don't make sense imo. At least science is trying to prove something instead of going "this is what happened but we arnt going to show you how we know that".


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 07:34:24


Post by: thenoobbomb


My point about Ulfric is that he seems much more interesting to talk with hen Tullius.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 11:35:47


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Doctadeth wrote:http://christwire.org/2011/11/is-skyrim-teaching-your-children-how-to-perform-rim-jobs-and-other-homo-erotic-sex-maneuvers/

Discuss.


If you are a responsible parent, then the world of MMORPG first person shooters should be something of a foreign language to you. In games like Skyrim, players are teleported to a far way lands that are cream filled with demonic spell crafting, violent shirtless blood shed and exposed not only Satanic critters, but bombarded with gay under tones of fecal fornication.

In the land of Skyrim, the player starts off as a captured terrorist, who has been caught plotting to destroy the golden empire by using dragons. Before the player gets to take control of his avatar, they are asked to create a character, which is purely the liberal’s way of teaching out kids that modifying and gender changing one’s self is fun and normal. Once the player has decided if they want to be a female wood fairy or an black ogre from Stormwind, they get to take control of their hell spawned fictitious demon.

Right off the bat, the gay supporting software company Blizzard, shows the player images of decapitations and after the third of forth head chopping, a necromatic dragon appears and sets the player free from righteous punishment. Now that the player is free, they will spend the next 400 hours robbing people, killing villagers, crafting sexual items, fornicate with elves and other Harry Potter style animals and also learn how to conjure up black magic.

Throughout the game, the played is exposed to full frontal violence and replay style death killing finish moves. The graphics of this game are way too realistic for the type of blood shed they ejaculate all over the player’s CPU monitor.

The spells the player are taught are directly out of The Book of Wiccan and are far more dangerous than anything your child is watching on that Wizards at Waverly Place and Sabrina The Teenage Witch. When a player casts a spell, you will see the hand gesture is that of how homosexuals fling devil DNA juices at each other after a long night of fecal frenzy ass assassinations. This is subliminally teaching your children that they need to go in their rooms, demon whack their sin staff and produce sin milk into their hands and than fling it in the face of the first person they come in contact with after their taint tugging session.

Once they player has finish killing all the people in Skyrim, his final battle is to have a mass dragon orgy with his feel homosexual warriors he meets on his way and all take turns impregnating the dragon with homosexual dragon eggs. Once the dragon has been backdoor feasted, the player must kill it. The dragon needs to be killed, so the spirit of death and gayness can enter the new eggs and reek havoc onto the rest of the world. This new destruction will be playable in the next Skyrim saga.


It goes on for a bit but it's still fething slowed...

PS. opening that link reposted it on my facebook wall, the things I do for you guys...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 13:55:55


Post by: KingCracker


I too posted that on Facebook. I just want to know.......HONESTLY......was that a troll and I missed it? Because holy fething gak! I think the guy must of just.....read the dust cover? Because I could tell many times over, that he was WAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyy off on alot of that. I mean.....just....what?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 15:03:51


Post by: Wolf


...Wow. I have seen the light ! Skyrim is all about homosexuals and jacking off producing sin juice ! How did I not see that casting spells is obviously subliminal messages...

Jesus Christ on a flaming jetski, I didnt think people could stoop to such levels of stupidity.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 15:13:54


Post by: Grey Templar


It shames me to call those people my brothers in christ

I deeply apologise for their behavior. I assure you they are in the minority as far as christians are concerned.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 15:16:48


Post by: Toastedandy


If you cannot work out whether someone is trolling or merely stupid, the answer is probably both.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 15:34:56


Post by: Ratius


Anyone else having some gfx texture issues since the patch, such as character faces becoming "see through", clothes being mono colored and trees/bushes looking crystalline?
Have to restart to get rid of them and whilst not game breaking its an annoyance.

Where can I locate an alchemy trainer? i.e to actually skill it up, not just buy ingredients/recipes


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 15:37:11


Post by: Karon


There is a Alchemy trainer in the College of Winterhold.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 15:38:50


Post by: Coolyo294


Babette in the Dark Brotherhood can train you in alchemy.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 15:39:34


Post by: Ratius


Hes definetly playing hide n seek with me so =/
Thanks.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 15:41:20


Post by: Karon


Oh yeah, those bastards in the College are very elusive.

Your best bet is to check the upstair bedrooms if you can't find them anywhere else.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 17:20:02


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Skyrim didn't make me gay, however the acts described in the article were so interesting that it turned me gay.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 17:43:14


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Karon wrote:Oh yeah, those bastards in the College are very elusive.

Your best bet is to check the upstair bedrooms if you can't find them anywhere else.



I think all mages are elusive. I can never find any of the Court mages either, unless I hunt for a good 30 minutes. >.<


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 18:17:34


Post by: Anvildude


I think that the Thaumaturgist in Morthol trains Alchemy.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 18:40:26


Post by: Grey Templar


I believe he does, but Babette is a better trainer because she's a master(IE: you can train longer)


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 18:43:32


Post by: Avatar 720


I've run into a nasty bug on my new char. As soon as you pass the companions killing the giant near Whiterun, they turn on you and you can do nothing about it. Not tried to bypass them yet, because i've just been thrown back several levels due to having 3 characters not dying at that part and assuming I didn't need to save, so I ragequit instead of spamming iron daggers again to get back to level 6.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 19:04:33


Post by: thenoobbomb


Ulfric made me racist.

That means, Im on a quest to kill all Altmer, Argonians and Khajiit.
Becuase they are different, and dont look nice.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 19:17:34


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


While I agree the elves aren't very easy on the eyes, the Argonians and Khajiit look much better than they did in Oblivion.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 19:20:42


Post by: thenoobbomb


Still, I dont like them


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 19:21:54


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Argonians and elves (especially dunmer) have got worse IMO, all other races (especially orcs and nords) have got better.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 19:27:14


Post by: Battle Brother Lucifer


I hate how all the high elves have the Chin of the Gods. I wasnt awake you can be born with an angular jaw


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 19:49:06


Post by: Alfndrate


Just got my smithing up to 100... Any ideas on where I can get ebony ore and ingots? I need to craft me some Daedric weapons... (I'm okay with wearing my full Dragonplate armor atm)


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 19:52:52


Post by: Avatar 720


There's a metric craptonne of ebony in the
Spoiler:
Gloombound Mine, in the Orc Stronghold Narzulbur. There's at least enough in there, combined with the ore and bar spawns around the forge area outside it, to create a full set of ebony plus weapons, and maybe to enhance a few pieces too, so i'd imagine that there's easily enough for Daedric also.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 22:35:52


Post by: Karon


The Drow looks absolutely horrific, and I'm quite sad they ruined my favorite race.

They really are too ugly to play...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 22:37:45


Post by: Chowderhead


So, I was walking around town, when all of a sudden, A Dragon appeared.



His soul was delicious.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 22:38:58


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Karon wrote:The Drow looks absolutely horrific, and I'm quite sad they ruined my favorite race.

They really are too ugly to play...


You know playing in third person and having the camera constantly pointing at your characters face (presumably with no helmet if you can see the face all the time) is probably not a good idea, you should stop doing that.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 22:48:14


Post by: Karon


corpsesarefun wrote:
Karon wrote:The Drow looks absolutely horrific, and I'm quite sad they ruined my favorite race.

They really are too ugly to play...


You know playing in third person and having the camera constantly pointing at your characters face (presumably with no helmet if you can see the face all the time) is probably not a good idea, you should stop doing that.


I still KNOW he's ugly, though, and I don't always play in first-person view.

I'll gladly play the beautiful Nord and Orc races, though.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 22:50:07


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I think the point of the new elves is how inhuman they look, that and the aldmeri dominions expansion lore gives me the impression they are really trying to distance the elven races from being humans with pointy ears that have been around for a while and like magic.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 23:16:54


Post by: Avatar 720


Wow, the Dragonrend shout was a let down. I thought "This sounds awesome! I wonder what it'll be. Will it be like a a strike of energy from the heavens? Or sapping the energy from him?"

*Uses Dragonrend*

Spoiler:
...Wow. It took away my only advantage against dragons; the fact that they like to fly off and let me heal myself... Helpful...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 23:19:01


Post by: Chowderhead


Avatar 720 wrote:Wow, the Dragonrend shout was a let down. I thought "This sounds awesome! I wonder what it'll be. Will it be like a a strike of energy from the heavens? Or sapping the energy from him?"

*Uses Dragonrend*

Spoiler:
...Wow. It took away my only advantage against dragons; the fact that they like to fly off and let me heal myself... Helpful...

I use it to bring Dragons down to taste my Daedric Axe.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 23:43:57


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Avatar 720 wrote:Wow, the Dragonrend shout was a let down. I thought "This sounds awesome! I wonder what it'll be. Will it be like a a strike of energy from the heavens? Or sapping the energy from him?"

*Uses Dragonrend*

Spoiler:
...Wow. It took away my only advantage against dragons; the fact that they like to fly off and let me heal myself... Helpful...


Spoiler:

it gives you an advantage against them if you are in a rocky area with alot of cover, since they can't fly over you. It does suck when you are walking around on a stretch of flat land, though.





The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/24 23:47:30


Post by: Avatar 720


If it was an additional effect of something like a strike of energy, i'd be fine with it, but as it stands it's a bit of an underwhelming shout to me.

Spoiler:
"We did it! We figured out how to kill the dragons!" "How?" "We make them land!" "Why not just shoot them with arrows like we normally do?" "...Shut up."

Considering that it took an entire race's hatred to make, you think they could've come up with something more damaging than a forced landing.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/25 03:05:28


Post by: Prawnkus


It's funny, you don't really see many of the beast races. It's almost like I'm the only Argonian in Skyrim!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/11/25 03:12:38


Post by: Iur_tae_mont


Argonians are in short supply. Prolly too cold.

I've seen a lot of Khajiit caravans (or maybe just one Khajiit caravan a lot of times) and of course there's M'aiq the Liar.

I think there's an Argonian in Solitude that wants you to do something seedy for him, but my first paythrough is with a good character so I didn't inquire further.