Badablack wrote:
I ran them with hand flamers because yeah, I’m anticipating those being pretty good when the codex rolls around. Here’s the first 5.

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 Badablack wrote:
I ran them with hand flamers because yeah, I’m anticipating those being pretty good when the codex rolls around. Here’s the first 5.

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 Badablack wrote:
Yeah, there’s no room for extra arms on Delaque bodies unfortunately. I lore’d it as being another mutation like aberrants but closer to the human strain. Or tiny shriveled arms they tuck under the coats out of shame.

 Badablack wrote:
I ran them with hand flamers because yeah, I’m anticipating those being pretty good when the codex rolls around. Here’s the first 5.

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 Badablack wrote:
I ran them with hand flamers because yeah, I’m anticipating those being pretty good when the codex rolls around. Here’s the first 5.

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 Badablack wrote:
Here’s one standing next to a neophyte, they’re pretty tall. Though if an acolyte wasn’t doing the hunchback thing they’d be about the same height.

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They’re Delaque bodies, from the new necromunda kit. And yeah they’re perfect for genestealer cultists that aren’t from a mining culture.

 Badablack wrote:
I ran them with hand flamers because yeah, I’m anticipating those being pretty good when the codex rolls around. Here’s the first 5.

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JNAProductions wrote:So, I recently got my SECOND Tooth and Claw.

I have, in total:

1 Broodcoven Box
2 Tooth and Claw Genestealer Cult Halves
1 Box of Neophyte Hybrids

I have so far built the entire Broodcover Box, half the Genestealers, half the Abberrants, one Abominant and one Iconward.

Can I make a decent army with this?

Timeshadow wrote:
Guess we know what the cult feels like just before the uprising...

 Badablack wrote:
No, he’s complaining that GW is releasing other books before the GSC codex. He made a big post about it if you really want to read about it.

 Causalis wrote:
I took inspiration from the Delaque conversions and started to convert some of my Tempestus Scions:

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And since I gave some of them Webbers (I like the look of the weapon) I wanted to ask how you would "fix" them in the codex. They are a unique weapon so I hate to see them simply go down in cost. Changing up their rules would be neat.

C4790M wrote:
Webbers need something really good to make them worth it. Maybe something like models who fail their save against this weapon take no damage but are automatically slain at the end of the charge phase if they’re in combat? Fluff wise the target gets webbed up and carted off by the cult for integration.

 Causalis wrote:
I took inspiration from the Delaque conversions and started to convert some of my Tempestus Scions:

 Causalis wrote:

And since I gave some of them Webbers (I like the look of the weapon) I wanted to ask how you would "fix" them in the codex. They are a unique weapon so I hate to see them simply go down in cost. Changing up their rules would be neat.

Danny slag wrote:
Looks like instead of a codex or even an faq to fix our broken army we're getting more campaign books. And before someone says it, sorry pictures of unreleased miniatures and a video aren't a codex.

Nice! I'm a bit surprised the Acolyte/Metamorph heads fit on scions, but it looks good.

 Causalis wrote:
Maybe denying overwatch if they hit an Infantry or biker unit. Or the hit unit always fights last in the next fight phase. Or the hit unit has -1 to-hit until the next turn (-1 in melee and shooting).

Bluflash wrote:
I think using the No Escape rule (Webber pistol) / Shardnet & Impaler rule (Webber) on a hit would fit well.


Giving the Acolyte hybrids a way to get into combat and stay locked in would help make up for the smaller unit size as compared to the genestealers.

Danny slag wrote:
Looks like instead of a codex or even an faq to fix our broken army we're getting more campaign books. And before someone says it, sorry pictures of unreleased miniatures and a video aren't a codex.

tneva82 wrote:

Danny slag wrote:
Looks like instead of a codex or even an faq to fix our broken army we're getting more campaign books. And before someone says it, sorry pictures of unreleased miniatures and a video aren't a codex.

Except of course GW having already announced GSC codex is upcoming. But yeah ignore that if you wish.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
I mean, he definitely could be efficient at killing enemy mortar teams, depending on how Cult Ambush works.

Currently kinda meh on it otherwise.

 Red Corsair wrote:

Expect none of the characters to be amazing on their own in a vacuum. I mean, we know from the wounds profile he isn't a primus equivalent. I imagine all these guys will have one specific little buff and another personal rule or unique gear and be dirt cheap. I am OK with that too. I actually like his buff (reroll 1's to hit shooting) more then the biophagus. The biophagus makes an already insanely good unit better, I don't need to waste points on that. What we need most is a way to remove 30-40 point cheap screens in the early rounds with shooting without relying on allies. I am guessing the bikes will be one answer, this guy and some neos may be another. He will need a way to get in range fast however so we shall see.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
I have little faith on the terrain drill being good, considering all the other pieces have been huge stinkers.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
I have little faith on the terrain drill being good, considering all the other pieces have been huge stinkers.

FatBoyNoSlim wrote:I was just wondering, what Neophyte models do my fellow Dakkanoughts prefer? Do you prefer the civilian mining style or the cadian/PDF trooper style?

FatBoyNoSlim wrote:
Is there a financial or tactical reason to pick 1 kit over the other (such as the weapon options in each kit)?

Cephalobeard wrote:I have little faith on the terrain drill being good, considering all the other pieces have been huge stinkers.

Araablane wrote:
Kelermorph is really cool but at the moment really expensive with the Kill team box (if you are looking for more than 1).
Doubt they will release him separately before 6 months.

 luke1705 wrote:
Let's try to keep the tactics thread about tactics. Once we actually know the cost and stat line and rules for stuff, bring it here. Everything else belongs in the rumors thread.

It's mind-numbingly obvious that if a unit is X points, it's super awesome and competitive. If it's Y points, it's ok but not great. If it's Z points, it's just awful.

Given that no one knows points yet, this is literally pointless speculation on two levels.


Something that has been confirmed is that we do have a blip deployment system of some kind. You can see the blips in the codex books. How it works is yet unclear, but it does appear that there has to be a unit that actually comes within 9" in order to "spot" our units because there is a 9" measuring stick that comes in the limited edition codex (and perhaps others).

This is very interesting on a few levels. For example, the blip markers don't seem to be different in any way or actually numbered. If this is the case, then we probably will just have to say "I have 10 units on the board, but you don't know which blip is which unit". Furthermore, we may be able to decide which unit goes where when the blips are revealed. That would be strong for obvious reasons.

Lastly, if blips count as units in terms of target ability (meaning they can stop character targeting) we might be the ultimate army that stops gun line armies at long range.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
We do not assume a vehicle automatically costs 100pts.

A Wyvern, post CA, is around just over one hundred points and has (assumedy) a higher toughness and more shots.

If this comes in somewhere between a Sentinel (35points) and a Wyvern/Russ (100+ points) then somewhere around 75pts is reasonable, at T6 and fast movement.

Your attitude is garbage, even by Dakka standards.

Danny slag wrote:

This vehicle is going to hit how often, once a game maybe? if you're lucky, with weapons that have very low number of shots that makes it even worse odds. If you think this is such a great idea how many of your rock-grinders do you run with the heavy mining laser instead of the flamer?

Cult Ambush
This ability is at the very heart of everything it means to field the Genestealer Cults in battle. It represents the culmination of all the cult’s cunning machinations and careful planning that has led them to this battlefield. Cult Ambush gives you all the tools you need to start every battle on the front foot** – if you can maintain the momentum, victory will surely be yours.


The ability takes two forms according to how you choose to set up your units, so let’s take a quick look at each.
Setting Up Underground: During deployment, you can set up Infantry and Bike units with the Cult Ambush ability underground. At the end of any of your Movement phases, some or all of these units can emerge anywhere on the battlefield that is more than 9″ from enemy models. The freedom you’ll have to suddenly strike your opponent’s forces in great force from any direction will cause mayhem with their battleplans.


Setting Up in Ambush: Were you wondering what those 28 ‘blip’ counters that come with the codex were for? They are, in fact, Cult Ambush markers designed to help you play horrible mind games with your opponent as you set up!
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Instead of setting up a unit underground or on the battlefield, you can choose to place an ambush marker anywhere within your deployment zone. You can place a marker for each unit you choose to set up an ambush – even Transports and larger Vehicles such as a Cult Leman Russcan be set up in this manner! The crucial detail here is that you don’t need to assign which units are represented by each ambush marker – you can decide that later. There is also a sneaky Stratagem that enables you to place additional ambush markers to further confound your opponent.

If you have the first turn, you reveal all of your ambush markers at the start of your first Movement phase. If your opponent goes first, you instead reveal all of your ambush markers at the end of their first Movement phase, and they cannot move anywhere within 9″ of any ambush markers beforehand.
These markers are revealed one at a time – each time you do so, you select one unit from your army that you set up in ambush, then set up one model from that unit within 1″ of that ambush marker, followed by any other models in the unit. All units set up in this manner must be wholly within your deployment zone – that is, unless you further mess with your opponent by changing the nature of your ambush.

 luke1705 wrote:

Danny slag wrote:

This vehicle is going to hit how often, once a game maybe? if you're lucky, with weapons that have very low number of shots that makes it even worse odds. If you think this is such a great idea how many of your rock-grinders do you run with the heavy mining laser instead of the flamer?

Ah hyperbole it’s been too long. Is it even a GW codex release if someone doesn’t jump to unfounded conclusions?

For what it’s worth, though, he’s probably right that GW really has yet to hit the buggy on the nose for any of the ork vehicles or any vehicles of that chassis type except maybe DE Venoms. Just too expensive for what they bring to the table. Cool model though. We’ll see if GW can get the price point right.

 Cephalobeard wrote:
No, I do agree, but I think the criticism of "this is going to make x or y more difficult" is valid.

Growing pains will happen, impacts everyone with a codex, I'm just excited to see more and am glad they ripped the bandaid with the first day.

 Red Corsair wrote:
Guys in 7th the army was broken because it was too reliable and had a metric feth ton of models. Your looking at the army with index prices and applying the new leaks. Bad idea. The amr y should be much more then a large Nid stealer unit and a few abberants bombs.

With acolytes dropping to the rumored 7ppm the new system is going to be more then enough. 70points for a unit with 31 attacks that can spring up and charge is no joke. Your going to be rolling with multiple cheap units, plus we already know for a fact we have a strat to move a unit d6" after is arrives.

Also, Incontrol also played the army in 7th, he isn't new to the cult, and he is a tough critic, if he is excited and says it is solid I have no reason to doubt.

Danny slag wrote:

 luke1705 wrote:

Danny slag wrote:

This vehicle is going to hit how often, once a game maybe? if you're lucky, with weapons that have very low number of shots that makes it even worse odds. If you think this is such a great idea how many of your rock-grinders do you run with the heavy mining laser instead of the flamer?

Ah hyperbole it’s been too long. Is it even a GW codex release if someone doesn’t jump to unfounded conclusions?

For what it’s worth, though, he’s probably right that GW really has yet to hit the buggy on the nose for any of the ork vehicles or any vehicles of that chassis type except maybe DE Venoms. Just too expensive for what they bring to the table. Cool model though. We’ll see if GW can get the price point right.

what unfounded conclusion, that 5+ to hit single shot heavy weapons don't hit very often? That's not hyperbole or unfounded conclusions, that's math.

It's universally known that platforms which have low number of shots and poor to hit chances aren't taken, doesn't matter on the army they simply aren't taken because they're not very good. That's just fact.

I agree they're a cool model. I want several, the rules just completely miss the mark just like the rock-grinder did.

Danny slag wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
Guys in 7th the army was broken because it was too reliable and had a metric feth ton of models. Your looking at the army with index prices and applying the new leaks. Bad idea. The amr y should be much more then a large Nid stealer unit and a few abberants bombs.

With acolytes dropping to the rumored 7ppm the new system is going to be more then enough. 70points for a unit with 31 attacks that can spring up and charge is no joke. Your going to be rolling with multiple cheap units, plus we already know for a fact we have a strat to move a unit d6" after is arrives.

Also, Incontrol also played the army in 7th, he isn't new to the cult, and he is a tough critic, if he is excited and says it is solid I have no reason to doubt.

but those units will have a less than 30% chance to make their charges now, can't do it until turn 2, can have less units overall in ambush, and die to a stiff breeze.

Fluff wise i think the ambush tokens are really neat, but GW seems insistent on making close combat non-viable.

 Red Corsair wrote:


Again, your making so many assumptions. You are entitled to your opinion of the mechanics of course, but right now you have no idea what your complaining about yet.

Danny slag wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:


Again, your making so many assumptions. You are entitled to your opinion of the mechanics of course, but right now you have no idea what your complaining about yet.

you're right we don't know points, but again how is math an assumption. the odds of rolling high enough to charge out of a 'greater than 9 inch' deployment is about 27%, this isn't an assumption, this is math. You keep calling things that we've known from playing 8th edition for over a year "assumptions" when these are facts that universally apply to how the game works.

 Red Corsair wrote:

Danny slag wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:


Again, your making so many assumptions. You are entitled to your opinion of the mechanics of course, but right now you have no idea what your complaining about yet.

you're right we don't know points, but again how is math an assumption. the odds of rolling high enough to charge out of a 'greater than 9 inch' deployment is about 27%, this isn't an assumption, this is math. You keep calling things that we've known from playing 8th edition for over a year "assumptions" when these are facts that universally apply to how the game works.

Because you don't have all the facts.

Not just points, but all the relevant rules.

Odds are doctrines are related to known hive fleets. Like say behemoth. Or reroll charges. Then again maybe not. I am not going to make baseless assumptions. I'll wait rather then jump to conclusions.

There could be many different ways charges are improved.


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Right now it's as if your looking through a key hole into a dark room and commenting on the feng shui.

 Niiai wrote:
Do we have any units that really benefit from shooting twice? Not that I cna think of of the topp of my head.


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Do we have any units that really benefit from shooting twice? Not that I can think of of the topp of my head.

 cole1114 wrote:
I like the blips a lot. The idea of watching an opponent invest a big push of footslogging infantry towards one side of the board only to be met with a unit of three leman russ punishers is hilarious.

Do we have any units that really benefit from shooting twice? Not that I can think of of the topp of my head.

Danny slag wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:

Danny slag wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:


Again, your making so many assumptions. You are entitled to your opinion of the mechanics of course, but right now you have no idea what your complaining about yet.

you're right we don't know points, but again how is math an assumption. the odds of rolling high enough to charge out of a 'greater than 9 inch' deployment is about 27%, this isn't an assumption, this is math. You keep calling things that we've known from playing 8th edition for over a year "assumptions" when these are facts that universally apply to how the game works.

Because you don't have all the facts.

Not just points, but all the relevant rules.

Odds are doctrines are related to known hive fleets. Like say behemoth. Or reroll charges. Then again maybe not. I am not going to make baseless assumptions. I'll wait rather then jump to conclusions.

There could be many different ways charges are improved.


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Right now it's as if your looking through a key hole into a dark room and commenting on the feng shui.

I really don't know what leads you to believe there are some drastic rule differences from what they've previewed, maybe there are, but that's highly unlikely.

My point is the design philosophy for the army was a glass cannon that can be pretty well wiped out in a single turn of shooting, while having no good shooting or tough units of it's own, but was balanced by having all sorts of tricksy ways to get a few of those bodies into combat if they threw enough meat at the grinder.
Essentially they seem to have forgotten their own design philosophy. First it was "you're a glass cannon that needs to ambush to be viable" then they nerfed the ambush hard, and forgot that's what they were using to balance out the weaknesses that are all still there.

but I imagine they won't be much better than high volume autoguns

 Red Corsair wrote:
It also has a 16% shot at an impossible (more then 12") charge as well as near impossible coming in off odd board edges 33% of the time.


I think the 3 CP strat is priced correctly. Something that was tough prior was stackng buff auras. Abberants wanted to come in with a primus for consistancy, but also wanted a psycher for buffs/debuffs and the abomanant for exploding attacks. Had to choose one or risk rolling separately and daisy chaining which sucked.

With the consistant 9" arrival I can easily drop 10 aberrants or 20 purestrains and get all the buffs I want guaranteed and still get a 3d6 charge off for 3cp. Only it's better because since 1 D6 of that movement happens in the movement phase it gets me closer for declaring charge targets within 12" meaning if/when we get a fight again stratagem we can really gut a flank.

The more I think of tactics with the blips the happier I am, there are going to be some really filthy redeploys you can get on your opponent, and depending on mission, forcing them to remain over 9 from your deployment can be a major swing in missions.

BTW blips will really shaft supersonic fliers lol.

 Astmeister wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:
It also has a 16% shot at an impossible (more then 12") charge as well as near impossible coming in off odd board edges 33% of the time.


I think the 3 CP strat is priced correctly. Something that was tough prior was stackng buff auras. Abberants wanted to come in with a primus for consistancy, but also wanted a psycher for buffs/debuffs and the abomanant for exploding attacks. Had to choose one or risk rolling separately and daisy chaining which sucked.

With the consistant 9" arrival I can easily drop 10 aberrants or 20 purestrains and get all the buffs I want guaranteed and still get a 3d6 charge off for 3cp. Only it's better because since 1 D6 of that movement happens in the movement phase it gets me closer for declaring charge targets within 12" meaning if/when we get a fight again stratagem we can really gut a flank.

The more I think of tactics with the blips the happier I am, there are going to be some really filthy redeploys you can get on your opponent, and depending on mission, forcing them to remain over 9 from your deployment can be a major swing in missions.

BTW blips will really shaft supersonic fliers lol.

The 6 inch move also has one drawback. You can get into flamer range.

 Red Corsair wrote:


With the consistant 9" arrival I can easily drop 10 aberrants or 20 purestrains and get all the buffs I want guaranteed and still get a 3d6 charge off for 3cp. Only it's better because since 1 D6 of that movement happens in the movement phase it gets me closer for declaring charge targets within 12" meaning if/when we get a fight again stratagem we can really gut a flank.

 mugginns wrote:

 Red Corsair wrote:


With the consistant 9" arrival I can easily drop 10 aberrants or 20 purestrains and get all the buffs I want guaranteed and still get a 3d6 charge off for 3cp. Only it's better because since 1 D6 of that movement happens in the movement phase it gets me closer for declaring charge targets within 12" meaning if/when we get a fight again stratagem we can really gut a flank.

You can only use the 3cp 1d6 on one unit, right? So the aberrants are gonna run away from your Primus and abomination. And you're left with hoping for the best with 9" charges with your characters.

 Niiai wrote:
Well, for 6 CP we will have a reasonable delivery system for two units. That is Ok. We will see if there are other methids to deliver them.

What are the chanches transports weill be OK?

 Niiai wrote:
Well, for 6 CP we will have a reasonable delivery system for two units. That is Ok. We will see if there are other methids to deliver them.

What are the chanches transports weill be OK?

Bluflash wrote:

 Niiai wrote:
Well, for 6 CP we will have a reasonable delivery system for two units. That is Ok. We will see if there are other methids to deliver them.

What are the chanches transports weill be OK?

I'm not quite understanding the 6CP for 2 units. Are you saying use the 3CP stratagem on Turns 2 and 3, or is there another method I'm missing?

 N.I.B. wrote:
Glorified Infestation Nodes. There you go.

 Niiai wrote:
I had an ork opponent get of da jump and get 2 flyers close enough to nulefy genestealer nodes. These blips are better.

Use points in cheap squads or statagems to place enough blips and your russes are standing pritty.

 luke1705 wrote:

 Niiai wrote:
I had an ork opponent get of da jump and get 2 flyers close enough to nulefy genestealer nodes. These blips are better.

Use points in cheap squads or statagems to place enough blips and your russes are standing pritty.

Da jump isn't going to be phased by the blips as they'll be gone by then. In fact, that's probably going to be one of our biggest troublesome matchups (but that's nothing new for most other armies - Orks are nuts right now)

 SHUPPET wrote:

 luke1705 wrote:

 Niiai wrote:
I had an ork opponent get of da jump and get 2 flyers close enough to nulefy genestealer nodes. These blips are better.

Use points in cheap squads or statagems to place enough blips and your russes are standing pritty.

Da jump isn't going to be phased by the blips as they'll be gone by then. In fact, that's probably going to be one of our biggest troublesome matchups (but that's nothing new for most other armies - Orks are nuts right now)

I don't think so. I think being able to retrospectively position your entire army in direct counter to Orkz first turn movement, is going to be incredibly powerful vs them.

 Badablack wrote:
If you know you’re fighting an army that can hit with Da Jump or other shenanigans you take the warlord trait that gives everyone in 6” heroic intervention.

Then suddenly you’re the melee version of Tau.

 JNAProductions wrote:
If you can't screen 3" out from your characters... What are you doing?

 Red Corsair wrote:

BTW did anyone notice all the banners in the video for the cults in the book. There were 6, and they all looked to be the highlighted ones from the 7th edition codex.

 JNAProductions wrote:
If you can't screen 3" out from your characters... What are you doing?

 BlaxicanX wrote:

 JNAProductions wrote:
If you can't screen 3" out from your characters... What are you doing?

If you're keeping your character 15'' back for three turns, you're doing exactly what I want you to do, and I'm beating you.

Sadly, the Kill Team Pamphlet doesn't contain points costs. :( The Gunslinger is PL 3 so maybe around 60 points? For comparison, the Primus is PL 4.

Metas are armed with an autopistol, rending claw, talon and blasting charges as their standard loadout.

Anyone can take a Hand Flamer instead of the autopistol.

Anyone may replace their rending claw with a second talon.

Anyone may replace the talon and rending claw for a whip and rending claw. (Yes, you replace the claw for... a claw. Don't ask me why.)

Anyone may replace the talon and rending claw for a Metamorph claw.

Leader may take a bonesword. Doesn't say he has to exchange it for anything so he can have either Sword and Meta Claw or Sword, Rending Claw and Talon.

One Meta may take an Icon.

Max unit size is 10.

Their PL is still 6. But I can imagine that at least the Talon will be free and the Meta Claw will get cheaper (as will the Hand Flamers).

These guys could actually be very good chaff and infantry killers. 2x5 dudes (for the extra attack from the Sarge) in a Chimera w/ 2x HF. Give them all Hand Flamers, Leaders with the Meta Claw and the rest Talon + Rending Claw. Have the Iconward with the +1 S relic babysitt them. They throw out 8 S7 AP-1 attacks, and either 32 S5 AP- attacks hitting on 2s, or 24 S5 AP-1 (6s AP4) attacks hitting on 3s + 8 talon attacks. And that's on top of ~7 Heavy Flamer hits and ~35 Hand Flamer hits.

And if you fight against Orks or other melee armies that would just kill them in the fight phase, give them the Whips so that they can swing at their enemy no matter what.

Adding everything together they kill ~40 GEQ, ~25 MEQ, ~41 Boyz, ~47 Cultists.

mightymconeshot wrote:
Whole bunch info got dumped in the rumor thread. Guardsmen squads at 4 points, neophytes 5, acolytes 7, bikes 10, and quads 15.

Bikes get two pick for weapons from a list. I am half thinking autogun, shotgun with some grenade launcher mixed in. I am also interested to see the quads stats to see if it has 3 wounds or a higher save. But 180 points for 3 quads and a 12 bikes kept cheap seems like a really cheap way to round out a battalion.

 SHUPPET wrote:

 N.I.B. wrote:
Glorified Infestation Nodes. There you go.

No! no no no! These are much better than Infestation Nodes, much MUCH better. In fact they are really good. REALLY good.

The other half is much better too imo!

I think this is almost directly upwards for GSC.

Arkengate wrote:
also uhhh

In the event that a silencer sniper rifle causes an unsaved wound to a unit of Rubrics, Scarab Occult Terminators, or Horrors, will it result in the entire unit suffering perils of the warp and the resultant 'psyker explosion' of D3 mortals to all other units in 6" as the entire unit has the PSYKER key word?

Arkengate wrote:
also uhhh

In the event that a silencer sniper rifle causes an unsaved wound to a unit of Rubrics, Scarab Occult Terminators, or Horrors, will it result in the entire unit suffering perils of the warp and the resultant 'psyker explosion' of D3 mortals to all other units in 6" as the entire unit has the PSYKER key word?

Horrors yes, they are all psykers so they will take a peril and lose D3 models (they won't "explode" unless the last model in the unit is killed). Same deal for GK/warlocks/etc.

Thousand Sons the sergeant is the only one who counts as a psyker, which is why when he perils he insta-pops. That would mean disaster, except that I can just take the sanctus' shot on a model that's not my aspiring sorc, and the unit won't peril because the rubrics aren't psykers.

zamerion wrote:With the new ambush, do you think it would be better to use large or small units of acolytes?

Khadorstompy wrote:So as an Astra Milltarum player I noticed something interesting in the blood brothers rules that could be pretty useful.

"These AM detachments are then known as Brood Brother detachments, and every unit in them that has the <Regiment> or Militarum Tempestus keyword must replace it in every instance with Brood Brothers (if a unit doesn't have either of these keywords it simply gains the Brood Brothers keyword)."


Assuming this is the correct wording. Leads to some interesting combo ideas. This would allow Bullgryns, Ogyrns, and Ratlings to recieve orders. The Taurox Prime becomes usable for all AM models. And while the codex special Orders can't be used the ones from DKoK and EDT can be. Also the Sabre Weapon Platform will now work With Tempestus, DKOK, and Elysians.

So this is kinda silly and might not be worth it but you could load up a Valk With a 10 man Combat Engineer Squad with a Melta bomb on the sarge. Put in an Elysian Platoon Commander in the Valk as well. Zoom the Squad to their target 9" away and Grav-Shute them in. Move the unit up 6" (So they should be just over 3" away) then have the Platoon Comander give them the "Move and Fire" order turning all there weapons to Assault. That would include their Grenade Weapons. So the Squad would then get 20 shotguns, 10 Frag Genades, 10 Krak Grenades, 10 Acid Bombs, and 1 Melta Bomb. Toss in a Sabre weapons Platform to have them hitting on 2+.

Seems like this has some possibilities.

Arkengate wrote:
In the event that a silencer sniper rifle causes an unsaved wound to a unit of Rubrics, Scarab Occult Terminators, or Horrors, will it result in the entire unit suffering perils of the warp and the resultant 'psyker explosion' of D3 mortals to all other units in 6" as the entire unit has the PSYKER key word?

KurtAngle2 wrote:
Time to make a new Thread guys!

KurtAngle2 wrote:Time to make a new Thread guys!

SHUPPET wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:
Time to make a new Thread guys!

its up!

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/770883.page#10332084

 Strat_N8 wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:Time to make a new Thread guys!

SHUPPET wrote:

KurtAngle2 wrote:
Time to make a new Thread guys!

its up!

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/770883.page#10332084

Awww... I had a updated Primer sitting on my wordpad awaiting the release.


Many thanks to everyone who participated in this thread. We made it a full 11 pages longer than the last one and it has been a wonderful journey to this point.

 Fifty wrote:
Strat_N8 updated the Index tactica front page primer post 92 times, most recently on two days ago

Shuppet, do you want the responsibility of doing the same, or would it be better to let Strat_N8 make a new thread instead of this one?