Gitsplitta wrote: It's your mother's father that determines typical male-pattern baldness. Apparently, my maternal grandad had a good shock of hair. My children won't be so lucky.
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Oh thank the stars! My father's side is a bit spare but my grandfather on mum's side still had a glorious head of hair until the day he died.
OK guys, first update... a short one, but I promise more as time goes on (had to spend the evening getting re-acquainted with the wife & kids).
So, the first real "event" of the weekend was a simple little 40k pick-up game with old teammates whalemusic360 and Ramos Asura who hadn't had much of a chance to practice with their armies yet. Yellowbeard borrowed some of Solar_lion's old marines and I dug up some Mantis Warriors for the event. We had a wonderful little two-on-two game witch our old partners won handily. The MW still got some attention from passers-bye... that's still very gratifying (even though they're looking a little beaten up).
Mantis Warrior armor castles up behind a hill.
Ramos looking generally disgusted. Come on man... YOU WON! Show some enthusiasm! The party colored flyer in front is his "Hell Drake"... yeah, right... and my Razorback is actually a Lord of War...
whalemusic's terminator squad as painted by Ramos. Looking good!
Rhino, again painted by Ramos for whalemusic. Nice work.
I went a wandering early. Blundered into some guys playing 30k. Quite possibly the most expensive 40k armies ever (figure per figure). Also quite possibly the coolest looking I've ever seen.
Our first big "do" was the "Mother of All Battles" (MOAB) on Friday night, pitting the two teams against each other in a no-holes-barred knock-down, drag-out, stop the titan from getting activated battle.
Beautiful marines on a skyshield, all painted by Ramos.
Most of the team ready for the game to start.
The fighting was hot and heavy.
Especially when the xenos scum air support arrived.
Some chipper xenos scum commanders.
In the end, not even the Tiger Claw terminators could make a difference... in frustration, (or perhaps because of the mind shackle scarabs), the last terminator power fists himself in the face.
Recognizing the inevitable outcome, the last of the Imperials retire from the field in good order... to fight another day.
Poor Tiger Claw Terminators received the Ion Accelerator reception upon coming in from reserves...blasting all but the sergeant off the board
Tiger Claw Sergeant: Hey we just moved into the area and wanted to say hi...
Tau: *Zzzzzzaaaaappppp*
Tiger Claw Sergeant: Oh dear god...what the feth was that...did you just spray us with plasma....you did didn't you...you commie bastards!
...and chipper would be the last word to describe my zombified state of being that day...I mean look at me...I make rain man look normal.
I'm still scratching our head as to why the appearance score was only 33...but then again I was surprised that we got any points for theme much less 30+ .
No telling. whim of the judges I guess. I'm fine with our scores.
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So... I'm kind of curious... does anyone still read this blog or have I totally tanked my following by all the GK/ork/necron distractions of the past 6 months?
Sound off! I'm curious how much damage I've done to my little corner of dakka.
wyomingfox wrote: I'm still scratching our head as to why the appearance score was only 33...but then again I was surprised that we got any points for theme much less 30+ .
I admit it's a little disapointing, but I'm not suprised by looking at what was out there. What was missing from the theme?
Lovely lovely pics, Gits. Really great that we were able to get pics of everyone. I'm generally not the best in pictures, so that second one of me is genuinely surprising. (still not sure why I look so grumpy in that first one though!)
Needless to say, Ill be saving a bunch of these. My camera sadly has battery issues, so I wasnt able to take any for myself!
I really enjoy the narrative, even if you seem to have an issue with my "Helldrakes"
Gitsplitta wrote: So... I'm kind of curious... does anyone still read this blog or have I totally tanked my following by all the GK/ork/necron distractions of the past 6 months?
Sound off! I'm curious how much damage I've done to my little corner of dakka.
While I like the classic retro-ness of the Mantis, I enjoy watching whatever project you are working on unfold.
I'm not following your threads any more... and I'm most certainly not falling for your shameless effort to get your number of posts up....
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dang... I did it... didn't I?
OK guys, you're off the hook. Seen enough to know it's more than just a few close friends that still follow. Thanks for sticking with me.
Will have some more pics today along with a *very brief* summary of each of our tournament games..... that is if someone will post after this so I can have a clean slate.
Exciting news over the weekend... apparently the gaming group in Madison has just thrown up their hands at all the completely broken rules GW has been cranking out and will be allowing IA rules and units from now on. I got so excited that I stayed up late to build my last two grot tanks. Unfortunately, I don't really have much in the way of IA marine things... HOWEVER... there are Mantis Warrior chapter tactics and a MW special character that deserves its own special attention. So I suspect a resurgence of the green and yellow this year!
I really like the MW chapter tactics... Divination on Librarians, move through cover, furious charge and hammer of wrath attacks when coming out of terrain. You'll have a lot of fun games with those tactics.
My area is including Escalation... so I'm eyeing a Transcendent C'tan...
It looks like the tournament-style meta is going toward this model, which is at the bottom of the post. I would suggest taking this to your playing group. It really rings of Sanity.
I also like the suggestion in the comments section: You can take whatever the HELL you want. But you have to cram it ALL into a single Force Organization Chart.
That stainless steel tau is awesome. Never thought of that approach. Not sure what's happening with the white and pink marines, they just looked primed white with spot pink spraying and an army badge on the shoulders.
Wow, all those crystal brush entries are amazing.
The dwarf is so lifelike and I love the sense of fun around Uzbek's garage.
The Contemptor is lush!! And I really like Moonpie's Emperors Fools Marines... They look like yummy slices of Battenburg
It is always great to read about your experiences and the experiences of others at events such as Adepticaon. I have never made it to a tournament or a 'con before, so if I do make it to one, hopefully I can have as much fun as you guys.
I am hoping that getting back and not being burnt out from last minute paint splattnig has left you pumped up and ready to hit the brushes, as I can't wait to see your upcoming projects.
Good picks of the crystal brush pics. Really like that horse/unicorn/autumn/winter changing dio'.
But you missed a good one of a grot on a remotely controlled walker thing that's about to stomp on an Ork. It was made by some bloke, I forget his name. But it was very nice...
Well yeah, but you guys have all seen that one. No big. Besides... the light in the CMON case just sucked (not just my opinion) unless your mini was designed for it. I'll know better next year.
Wow, some stunning pieces there...not that I expected anything less. Good to hear you guys all had fun, look forward to more pics and then you getting back to your projects
I think this will be my last update with random pictures of stuff. The next (last) update with be a few pictures of some of our battles and some *really abbreviated* battle reports with a few side comments.
For now though... here's the last of the "gee-whiz... lookie that!" pics. Some very nice stuff here including some from our fellow Dakkanoughts. Sorry about the quality of some of the pics... camera phone isn't really the best. I did what I could with them.
Avatarish Tau Display:
Creamsicle Nids:
What's this? Marine attacking the back of some foam-core?
Ahhh, now I get it. Cool!
Ketera & RiTides had a whole Rourk's Drift thing going on. Didn't get a picture of their display, but I did get some shots of the armies.
First up, Ketera's IG:
Vendetta proxy: blurry shot but you get the idea... very cool model
RiTides wormy Nids:
Next up... some shots and narrative on how we did in the team tournament!
Our first game in the Team Tournament at Adepticon was against the top team in the field... "They Shall Know Fear". Two-time repeat champion of the team tourney and our match included the gentleman (Nick Nanavati) that had just won the championships the day before. Nick and Aaron Aleong were playing an inquisitional army with 4 land raiders and 2-4 inquisitors (not sure about the number... at least 2) with 4 henchmen death-squads.
Never having faced an inquisitional army, wyomingfox and I set out as normal with his Tau in the back (but not all the way back) to provide supporting fire and my wraith-wing up front running interference. Hammer and Anvil deployment, objectives... maybe kill points too.
I moved my wraiths forward to crunch-n-munch me a LR, failed my charge, then got wiped by ONE of the henchmen units.... dear God. The rest of the battle went pretty much the same (bad for us). However... given that we were completely outmatched, I thought we did pretty well for ourselves & made them work for it a bit. By the end we'd effectively killed off one of their armies and significantly damaged the other. Wyfox and I both made mistakes in the last turn that probably cost us points... but considering the competition... I thought we did all-right. The guys were FANTASTIC to play by-the-way. I'd play them again any day! We had an absolute blast and were goofing off and joking around the whole time.
Turn 1 I think... because I still have figures alive on the board... Staring into the face of 4 land raiders when you have nothing better than S7 is a bit daunting.
The cavalry arrives. I discovered that as hard-as-nails as the henchmen are in assault... they do go down pretty easy to gunfire. You can see my wraiths dying horribly in the top center there...
My moment of glory. 5 Warriors walk on after having their transport gunned down by a land raider, see another land raider through the boulders and land 3 glances on it *in spite* of the 4+ cover saves... wrecking it. Moral victory... Gitsplitta!
Very enjoyable game though we really did get our a$$es handed to us. Wyfox was really sick the first day so I'm sure we would have benefited if he'd been 100%. (He's the thinker, I'm just eye-candy.)
Vs a great group of guys out of Ohio. "The Bolter Brothers", Alan & Larry. They were playing a marine army that just had fire-power up the wazoo.
It was with these gentlemen that Yellowbeard and I shared our moment of zen. Sharing drinks and leaning back withour eyes closed, savoring the flavor of good libation and companionship. They were fantastic! Would love to play them again in future years! Sorry for the quality of the next two pics... they're rubbish!
I'm showing the next pic, even though it's blurry... because it helps to illustrate a funny story. Here are the guy's armies... a white armored chapter, and it's opposite.
The mission was "marked for death" in which you only get kill points for ONE of your opponent's armies (you get to pick which opponent). Yellowbeard had forgotten which army we were going after, and I blurted out (rather loudly)... "Kill the white guys!", at which point the gentleman on the left burst out laughing. Then the irony of what I said hit all of us and we had a good laugh. Of course the ultimate irony is that the humor of the situation was based on the sad history of race relations in this country... but in context, the combination of my comment, the color of the figures and the color of the gamers was just something we all found funny. And that I believe, is a good thing.
They did a really good job early. Their massed fire-power put the hurt on my wraith squad and killed one of Yellowbeard's wraith knights. I'm not ashamed to say I was a bit worried, especially when their loaded storm raven with talon escort hit the table. When my flyers came in 1/2 turn later, one of my night scythes made the shot heard 'round the world. Tessla destuctor shot broadside into the zooming storm raven. 6 to pen. SR failed it's jink. 6 on the damage roll. *boom!* SR blows up, killing the named character and elite squad inside and also blowing up the dreadnought it was carrying. The tessla shot then arcs into the escort fighter, rolls a 6 to pen, then a 6 damage... blowing it up as well. One shot killed about 800 points worth of their army.
While they fought bravely... they just couldn't recover from that. We found out later from another opponent (when I was trying to arc into my own plane) that tessla's can't arc into flyers (something about auto-hits not being allowed, through arcing is hardly an auto-hit, you still need to roll a 6). I'd been tesslaing my own flyers for the last 6 months and I know I put a glance on one of my own flyers during this game by arcing so I don't feel that we took unfair advantage of the rules. Just didn't know I was doing it wrong.
So, a round two victory and another great game. So far the tournament was going wonderfully!
Alan and Larry of The Boltgun Brothers. Great game! And they gave us collapsible shot glasses! Very cool. They were playing Ravenguard and Star Phantoms. Beautiful armies that matched serendipitously. (They said they hadn't planned for them to match.). They were chosen for the army showcase!
Great guys and a great game. They really got the short end of the stick, though. I thought it was bad when my WK wiped out one of the Star Phantom squads, but Gits' Tesla shot to take out the 'Raven was painful.
Andrew here - I was on the other table playing against your teammates in round 1. Great meeting you - you guys were a blast to play! Also, your buddy that home brews beer should just go ahead and go pro, his brown ale and saison were frickin awesome!
We played Bolter's Boyz on the first game on Sunday and had a good time too. It was the earliest drink I have had in a couple years. I rarely say no to a drink, but I had to stop after two. Whale and I had a close game, but after I sacrificed every troop I had, he was able to yoink the relic with his "useless" henchman squad. It was a good, close game. One of those games you are happy to win, but wouldn't feel at all bad if you had lost.
Target wrote: Andrew here - I was on the other table playing against your teammates in round 1. Great meeting you - you guys were a blast to play! Also, your buddy that home brews beer should just go ahead and go pro, his brown ale and saison were frickin awesome!
Thanks, Andrew! Glad you liked the beer. We had a great time in that game!
Sorry I haven't been painting all. There are some things in life that are more important than painting miniatures.
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Like watching Samurai I, II & III with the wife... which are subtitled so it precludes my usual tactic of painting while the TV or a movie is playing in the background.
Kind of nice to just sit in the evenings and watch a really good series of movies with my sweetie. Usually the youngest has some Disney pre-teen crap on that I can't stand which drives me upstairs into my studio (where I have my own TV).
Target wrote: Andrew here - I was on the other table playing against your teammates in round 1. Great meeting you - you guys were a blast to play! Also, your buddy that home brews beer should just go ahead and go pro, his brown ale and saison were frickin awesome!
Wait, as in Andrew Gonyo?. That's cool. My 1000 points of Tau was selected/inspired from your ETC list LOL. Small world.
Finally got a chance to fool around with my models today. Did some painting on the current ork project and did some building on the next Mantis Warrior project (finally). Picked up a Hyperios launcher... just to fool around as well as to use it as a whirlwind option for my rhino chassis. Finally got it built as both a stand-alone and with the converted rhino top hatch so it'll go on one of my old-school rhinos.
Target wrote: Andrew here - I was on the other table playing against your teammates in round 1. Great meeting you - you guys were a blast to play! Also, your buddy that home brews beer should just go ahead and go pro, his brown ale and saison were frickin awesome!
Wait, as in Andrew Gonyo?. That's cool. My 1000 points of Tau was selected/inspired from your ETC list LOL. Small world.
Yup! Glad to hear, that list was fun to make and even more fun to play last year
OK, slight change in painting order. Having play-tested it a bit, I'll think I'll wait until I can secure the full compliment of them before painting them. BUT... never fear... have another project on the docket that I think you'll enjoy.
Yeah... I like them because they aren't over-the-top powerful, but they aren't crap either. I just ordered the official IA book that has the rules for them (not sure what "heat seeking" does), but as is... they seem to be a good investment for the points
Neat looking little model too, which is always a bonus with me.
Gitsplitta wrote: Yeah... I like them because they aren't over-the-top powerful, but they aren't crap either. I just ordered the official IA book that has the rules for them (not sure what "heat seeking" does), but as is... they seem to be a good investment for the points
Neat looking little model too, which is always a bonus with me.
Heat Seeker lets you re-roll failed to hit roll's against flyers, fast skimmers and super heavy flyers. Which is great as they are twin linked already.
Imperial Armour V2 Second Edition War Machines of the blah blah blah has the most up to date rules for them.
It's those incredible, against-the-odds moments that I like in battles, like when the NWarriors glanced the LR to wreck or the crash of the StormRaven...
That's awesome !
(Also, please be kind to Star Phantoms... They're a great, if shrouded in mystery, chapter... )
Ah, well then Yggs... I have one epic tale left to tell. I never did relate the yarn of our last battle. Necrons and Tau vs Eldar and Dark Eldar. It was pretty cool... and the wraith-wing earned it's kibble for the whole tournament in one game!
I'll put that together later on for ya! Even have a picture or two.
"No sh*t, there we were... three against a thousand! (and those were the toughest three guys any of us had ever seen!)"
Game 5 we were below .500 so I was hoping for a nice, fun, low-key game to finish off the tournament. wyomingfox and I were once again teamed up and were greeted by a couple of French Canadian gentlemen sporting a combined Light/Dark Eldar army with THREE death stars! A jetseer council and two beast stars... not to mention The Baron, two wave serpents and a number of other nasty surprises. Given that... we did what any self-respecting generals would do... castled up and hid in the corner behind cover of course!
Our opponents surged forward in hopes of completely overwhelming us by force of numbers and superior assault capabilities. As you can see from the photo above... my wraith wing... the ONLY thing between their massive army and wyfox's vulnerable shooting troops sallied forth without fear. (literally... they're fearless)
In their last turn, the seer council and moved their way up into the beast squad & about 3 or 4 jetbikes were actually just ahead of the beasts. On our turn, I charged the seers. I knew from an earlier game that they were deadly shooting, but *could* be beaten in assault if a few dice went my way. Because he'd placed a few bikes out in front of the beast star, I was able to assault the bikes without engaging the beasts.
Luckily for us, the wraith star did it's job and between the mindshackle scarabs and the whip coils... I managed to take out about half the bikes with no losses of my own. The bikes didn't break, so we were locked in combat.
During the Eldar turn, the beasts nearest to the combat swung around so they could go after wyfox's Tau, while the second (huge) beast star charged into combat with the wraiths. Luckily, the second beast star was so large and strung out that only a few were able to join in the combat and with the aid of the MSS and whip coils, I wiped the bikes... causing the beasts to take (and fail) a morale test. The beasts fled... and we were able to keep pressure on them with other elements of our armies until they ran off the table.
My wraiths then turned 180 degrees and charged into the melee with the other beast star which was chewing on the Tau. wyfox's Tau were actually accounting for themselves quite well, but without help the end would be a foregone conclusion. I hit the beasts and slowly the odds began to swing in our favor. A pivotal moment occurred when the character my Necron Lord was in a challenge with switched out with "The Baron" (apparently he can do that). I believe The Baron failed his MSS test, hit himself once, then failed his 2+ save... killing himself with his super-weapon.
At this point, I (the gamer) left that battle because my flyers came in and went to work on the craftworld eldar in their right rear (sitting on objectives in wave serpents). The wraith star eventually got wiped out, but not until they'd help weaken the beast star to the point of inefficacy. My planes with troops & bikes came in on the right and chewed on the Eldar, eventually destroying, contesting or claiming their objectives (thanks to some very determined urging from wyfox, trying to prevent me from making the same mistake that cost us the secondary in game 1).
While I didn't emphasize it... wyfox's Tau were really involved at every step along the way. Assaults, critical shooting, you name it. A very good bit of teamwork in a very challenging situation. So... solid victory for us. Huzzah! Huzzah! Huzzah!
Today's epiphany.... I am now a huge fan a Swedish metal. Yep... just today. Wow. Sabaton should be playing in the background at every 40k event.
"Sabaton"
"Tyr"
"Amon Amrath"
I also like the funny little vampire dudes in "Powerwolf" and the zombierockers in "Kataklysm". Oh... "Gloryhammer" is fun too. Granted, I don't think these are all Swedes... but they give a good showing of themselves in spite of their obvious lack of deathmetal genetics.
... and on the lighter side of life... "Vat 19", go check it out.
So, here's what to look forward to in the immediate future as far as P&M goes...
I asked a friend who is one of the upper level competitive gamers in the Madison area (and who's approach to 40k in general I just really appreciate and respect) to help me out in building a decent Mantis Warrior list using their chapter tactics and their one unique character. I didn't give him any conditions... he could build anything he wanted. The list he came up with had some amazing coincidences...
1. I won't have to buy a single figure.
2. All of the normal infantry is already painted as well as most of the extras.
3. The things I need to paint were pretty high on my to-do list anyway.
As I go along we'll experiment and play-test... Aside from having a decent MW list, the point of this little excercise is for me to get better at list-building, seeing relationships and synergies in units & becoming a better player in general. I'm so excited about this prospect I really can't express it properly.
So, here's what you can look forward to in the immediate future...
6 devastator centurions (the list doesn't call for six, but that's what I've got so I'm going to paint them all at once)
2 storm talons
1 land raider redeemer
1 lovingly crafted and painted chapter master
1 lovingly crafted and painted chief librarian Ahazhra Redth (or can be used as Tigurius if IA units aren't available)
I've already got the first box of Cents open & have been studying the parts trying to figure out how the hell I'm going to put it together. I think I'm going to do an unorthodox build, similar to how eggroll handled his Cents. We'll see.
Oh brilliant! Im definitely looking forward to seeing you do the planes and Centurions (even though that model has no love what so ever from me). Eggroll's build does make them a little more palatable, though...
Curious to see your builds for the HQs... I love me some kitbashes and conversions
Got a wonderful surprise the other day... At Adepticon I'd asked Ice Angel for one of his Tiger Claws. Any one... just something I've always wanted being that they were companions-in-arms to my Mantis Warriors. I just intended for him to toss me any old spare infantry model. What I got instead was this beautiful, TH/SS terminator... complete with NMM technique on the hammer head!
Mantis Warrior Centurion #1 built... though I reserve the right to tweak and add minor bits and details without prior notice.
That crazy preying mantis helm was sculpted by BLACKHAND for me years ago. (he did a bunch of scupts & casting for me... just because he's an awesome guy!) It's too big for a normal marine and he never liked it because (in part at least), he couldn't figure out what kind of figure to use it on. Years later... GW complied by creating the perfect, over-sized figure for it!
Thanks BLACKHAND. You've waited a long time to see some of your work. Expect to see more of it as time goes on.
Seeing that mantis head on a cent makes me want to see assault versions. Because the marine arms are not actually in there, you could replace them with giant folding chainswords, mimicking the bug upon which you are based.
Gitsplitta wrote: Great idea Nev, perhaps you haven't seen my earlier vanguard conversions...
I have seen them, and was thinking about them. Just scaled up.
Not sure where you can get upsized chainswords though. The one on the ironclad is a little stubby for the job. Ork kits? Not very familiar with their range personally. You’d need eviserator scale blades, and lots of them.
And then you run into the problem that assault cents don’t look to be very good on the table mechanically. But if they look cool, much can be forgiven.
I think I'd need to scratch build them. I could do that. Have some great giant-sized chainsword blade teeth from Zinge that are just begging for such a project.
Did you photo shop him Gitsplitta? Or is it just the fact that everything looks better when its on Gitsplittas blog! NEAT! I'm glad you like him Git. I think its good to know that he'll be in a good home. I like the mantis centurion too. I've been keeping my eye on those things. Modified or not, I like them.
You done good my friend... that helmet is going to really make them look unique and special.
OK everyone... I need your help! I'm wondering if the transition between that massive upper torso and small waist / legs might need something to help the transition. I'd like to know which look you like best.
1. No adornment.
2. Small loin cloth.
3. Centurion loin cloth / tassets.
I could do them all like whichever I choose... or I could perhaps do the sergeant in the full tassets and the scrubs in the small loin cloth. Something like that. The three look quite different so I think this is a fairly important decision.
As you can see I've already had to replace the antennae. One drop from fumble-fingered me and I broke both of the plastic antennae off at the head. These brass ones should work much better. They're bent forward not only because they look more natural, but because it decreases the chance that I'll impale myself with them.
dantay_xv wrote: I go option number 2, to distinguish the sargeant you could use a cingulum (the leather strappy loincloth) and give the scrubs a regular loin cloth.
dantay_xv wrote: I go option number 2, to distinguish the sargeant you could use a cingulum (the leather strappy loincloth) and give the scrubs a regular loin cloth.
Looks like most folks like option #2... and dantay's suggestion is just a perfect fit. Unfortunately the only leather strap loin cloths I have are attached to some Forge World bodies that I was very lucky to get... so I don't want to detach those. I'll poke around on e-bay and see if I can find something.
I've got him based and will add a pic later of the final build (sans loin cloth)... then it's off to build the other five. (Lord help me...)
I'm not sure that'll do it. Being swept to the side the way it is I don't think will work with the figure. Need something that hangs pretty straight down & isn't too wide.
I know what I want to do with them now... unfortunately if I have to order the bits (probably from 3rd party companies in Europe)... it'll delay the project by several weeks.
After careful consideration... I've decided I can probably scratch-build everything I need.
... nothing's ever easy...
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Finished. Took all day, but I won't have to do all this scratch building again (and I didn't have to wait weeks for bits to come in). The sloppy wash is just so that the white plasticard doesn't overwhelm the camera.
... and a little bit of context...
You guys remember that guardsman "The Winter Soldier" that I did for bebopdrum's competition. Well, I got my prize a while back, thought I'd show it off. It's very nice of him to pass out prizes... I never expect from a dakka-based competition (it's the joy of creating and competing that I'm into). Got some really cool heads from BRG minis. (wow... must be nice to have prize support!) The heads are great and all over the board. I have a bunch of ape-based heads that just look like their begging to be converted onto an IG body to act as Jakero proxies for either an inquisitional squad or the Brotherhood of the Black Hand (GK). Thanks bebop & BRG!!
(Any mini company that wants to offer a little prize support for my next comp is more than welcome. I'll give you good pub!)
NOW... I can get on with building the rest... they should go together much quicker.
Fixed the head so it's looking in the same direction the arm is pointing. My one gripe about this model (aside from all the stupid stuff I didn't use) is that the arms are in no way poseable (sp?).
And if you got a load of bits you don't need, then you have lots of bits for other conversion work, where's the down side?
My favourites are IG heavy guys, loads of weapons you can convert you dont need. How much are these big fella's over there anyways, they are like £10 each here, which is way too much.....sorry not going there. I kinda like them now I have seen your guy.
They're crazy expensive... the only reason I got the two boxes I did was that I was able to parley tournament prizes (gift cards) and store discounts into something that I could afford. They're over $25 each here in The States. I never would have paid full price for them. It's insane... don't care how good they are.
Now that I'm most of the way through build #2... I'm going to say something I NEVER thought I'd say... I LOVE THESE MODELS!
They're massive... and intimidating... and if you leave off all of the assenine "marine in a marine" crapola, they look fantastic. I still wouldn't pay over $25 each for them... but they are really terriffic to work with. Even though you can't really pose them at all (which I don't like), all the pieces are keyed in so they're very easy to assemble correctly. Also... the mantis heads look fantastic on this frame where they'd be too large to really work with anything else.
#2 is built with the exception of the weapons systems that need to be magnetized. That's not going to be easy. We'll see what kind of progress I can make tonight.
@SL: A single sashimono is a possibility... but it's still an entire night to build two of them. I'll give it some thought though. I do like the look very much, fits the aesthetic perfectly.
I'm really digging the way they look, Git. I'm sure that your paint will make them even better. I really like the way the banners look on the one of the left. They give a cool, insectoid 'wing' effect. Very appropriate for Mantis Warriors, I think.
Not bad at all Gits! you've made them totally individual to you and the Mantis! job well done, they're going to look super sweet with paint (of course!)
Thanks gentlemen. The "strut" is built in... so I can't take any credit. Seriously, there is almost NO room for fiddling with the poses of these figures. A small shift in torso positioning is all I could manage and even that made it difficult to find a loin cloth that would work (thus the improvised one seen in the pic). You pretty much have to build them exactly as designed or other elements (the hoses and cables in back for example) won't go together correctly.
Exciting news for the day...
I just ordered 3 Godzilla movies and a collection of 5 Gamera movies. Wooot! Those should make evenings locked in my studio painting much more enjoyable! (and I've got to do something while I'm waiting for the 16th to come around)
Gitsplitta wrote: Thanks gentlemen. The "strut" is built in... so I can't take any credit. Seriously, there is almost NO room for fiddling with the poses of these figures. A small shift in torso positioning is all I could manage and even that made it difficult to find a loin cloth that would work (thus the improvised one seen in the pic). You pretty much have to build them exactly as designed or other elements (the hoses and cables in back for example) won't go together correctly.
Exciting news for the day...
I just ordered 3 Godzilla movies and a collection of 5 Gamera movies. Wooot! Those should make evenings locked in my studio painting much more enjoyable! (and I've got to do something while I'm waiting for the 16th to come around)
With a knife and greenstuff, anything is posable.
Not to spark a dub/sub debate here (there are plenty of them out there) but I know I prefer to watch my Godzilla movies in their original Japanese, with English subtitles. Unfortunately, reading and painting don’t go well together. But I am a fan of the genre.
I agree Nev, but since they're my "background noise" when I paint... I need them in English. (plus the kids enjoy them more if they're in English)
Third centurion body is together! Making good progress now that I'm comfortable with them. Have to take a few hours break for Thing 2's soccer game, then I'll be back at it for the tricky parts (magnetizing the guns).
Ahhh Kaiju films... I love em! (throwing my $.02 into the subs ring- though Ill still watch em all regardless! xD )
Though my only experience with Gamera films is through Mystery Science Theater. Godzilla on the other hand, I remember watching tons of it a few years back. Still a big fan of Ghidorah and Mechagodzilla.
Centurions look great, and its great to see you found a use for the heads! Back banners are a great touch as well, and really add that Asian aesthetic to the MW.
Really looking forward to seeing more MW green on these guys... Or some Tranquillity yellow, perhaps
It'll be green. I know everyone want's to see me do everything in tranquility camo, but it's only special if it's rare. I might do one in tranquility colors... perhaps the other sergeant... but we'll see.
In the mean time I've been thinking about how I'm going to do my other MW projects & decided that that all my "modern" MWs will have as strong a Japanese aesthetic as I can figure out how to give them without losing the MW aspect. Made for some interesting mental exercises this morning... especially concerning what to do with the vehicles.
I just ordered 3 Godzilla movies and a collection of 5 Gamera movies. Wooot! Those should make evenings locked in my studio painting much more enjoyable! (and I've got to do something while I'm waiting for the 16th to come around)
Ah, a kaiju fan, eh?
I just ordered my Godzilla tickets last night for the midnight premiere. I haven't been this excited about movie in a long, long time.
Finished centurion #3. This one included the added frustration of launching the newly magnetized and drilled bolter thingie across the studio... never to be seen again. So I raided box #2 for an extra bolter mount & then went on e-bay to order more of these little darlings. I'm sure it won't be the last time one gets lost (or launched).
Gitsplitta wrote: Here's a pic of the squad together. Let's have a little caption contest, shall we?? Winner get's an "atta-boy" and bragging rights for the day.
Great looking models Gits, from someone who hates these centurions. But you've made them look good - personally I think leaving off the lower leg plates combined with the mantis heads makes them even more insectoid looking.
Marine on left: Hey Sarge, isn't that your wife coming out of that restaurant with the base commander? Sarge: You, trash his car, quick. Marine on right: Okey doke. *whistles*
@Ramos: I bought a bunch from one of the third party companies, they're terriffic!
@Phutarf: yes, I agree with you completely on that. I may cook up little shields to go on the top of his foot to shield the lower ball joint, but the centurion legs would ruin the aesthetic.
"Introducing the third annual Mantis Warriors bird watching excursion. Leisurely strolls through the hills spotting all manner of wildlife along the way."
Also great work on those centurions Gits. How you managed to make those guys look good is beyond me but well done for achieving the impossible!
"Introducing the third annual Mantis Warriors bird watching excursion. Leisurely strolls through the hills spotting all manner of wildlife along the way."
This made me laugh way harder than it should have.
Most of the way through the build of #4... the sergeant for the second squad. I think you're going to really like this one! Hope to have it done tomorrow sometime.
I thought people might be interested in seeing the sashimono components. Given the parts... I think you can work out how to do the build yourselves. A bit finicky but I like the way they turn out.
Barring unforeseen circumstances... I should have a finished pic for you in a couple of hours. The sashimono are all that's left (not that it takes hours to make them... but I have other things to do this morning).
You guys probably wouldn't notice (why would you?)... but his loin cloth is actually the center piece from the proper centurion loin cloth / tasset set. I've dissected it into 3 different pieces. You'll be seeing one of the other pieces on the next figure.
I'm actually with Yggs. I like the power armor helms, but these seem to far on the bug side of it for me. Then again, I like the stock Centurion kit for he most part.
Purely on aesthetics, I love what you have done. No idea what these guys are in game. I have only breifly looked at the originals and they seemed a bit silly. Yours look more "preportional" to me. I guess you will only have maybe 10 of these guys in an army? Or only 6? Are they a terminator upgrade?
As I say, from a model stand point, I don't like the standard issue, but Gits take is great, and I don't doubt we will see some other good varients.
From any other point of veiw, I do not get them at all. Whats wrong with a Terminator squad? Or a dreadnought? Don't need a middle ground. Funny enough I get Obliterators, but thats Daemonic posession for you, but these can inside a can and no more shooty, I just don't.
I think it was simply pragmatic. They marines needed something with a bang when the codex came out. I mean what are you gonna do? They're marines... SOSDD. They weren't going to get a MC as the Knight Titan was already in the works... so they had to come up with something else. Something that was irresistibly good and stupid expensive so they could make a ton of money on it. The centurions are what they came up with. They couldn't do anything that was based on a normal marine because AV3 is horse-pucky in the current meta... so they concocted the "marine in a marine" theorem. Consider them GK Paladins with better weapons and worse armor.
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Snuck in centurion #5! Only one more to go, though because if the missing part that I had to re-order... #6 won't be finished until Thursday at the earliest.
I like this guy... he looks buff. (started fiddling with switching arm and hand poses)
I think they look cool, the only part I'm thinking others may not like is the antennae? it might make them a little too 'alien' but that aside it's a great concept and vehicle for your own individuality Gits and I for one want to see them painted! :-) Whaley won't like the giant shark heads i'm doing for his then will he lol......
One of the most exciting things about this project is that it's actually controversial! I mean the things that I love most about the project (the insect helms and leaving off the extra armor) are the things that others object to. Usually... I think we're pretty much all on-board when it comes to most projects... but to do something that really makes the community split it's opinion is pretty cool.
So thanks everyone for your opinions... both positive and negative. Really has made the time I've spent on these worthwhile!
If there's one thing I've learned in life Gits, it's that the only person you should try to please is yourself - (not like that ) - as long as you like what your doing then anyone else's opinion is largely irrelevant!
Phutarf wrote: If there's one thing I've learned in life Gits, it's that the only person you should try to please is yourself - (not like that ) - as long as you like what your doing then anyone else's opinion is largely irrelevant!
That’s a good life philosophy. Needs to be amended though. When The Wife is happy, everybody is happy.
I like these guys. The more I see people doing cool things with the cents, the closer I get to picking up a box. Not there yet, but every picture pushes me closer to that side of the fence.
Gitsplitta wrote: Here's a pic of the squad together. Let's have a little caption contest, shall we?? Winner get's an "atta-boy" and bragging rights for the day.
My entry:
Spoiler:
"Does anyone remember where I parked the car? I think it's over there somewhere..."
Gitsplitta wrote: Here's a pic of the squad together. Let's have a little caption contest, shall we?? Winner get's an "atta-boy" and bragging rights for the day.
My entry:
Spoiler:
"Does anyone remember where I parked the car? I think it's over there somewhere..."
I dont know why, but when I see them like that 2 thoughts spring to mind: the first is the 3 green critters from Toy story "Oooohhh, the claw!!"
The other is:
Centurion on the right as we look: I need a wee I need a wee!!
Sarge: Oh for the love of gak.... Couldn't you have gone before we suited up & left.... The bathromms over there on the right.. Go now!
Centurion on the left as we look: Oooh candy!
Seriously though the Centurions are all coming along really nicely, they are really characterful and the slightly bigger helm? Well improved comms and tracking devices for all that heavy firepower!
Gitsplitta wrote: Second sergeant... the sword is just there for effect.
Caption: Yesss!! Now I can open that danged letter... By the Emperor it had better be my tax refund, been waiting a century for this thing grumble grumble....
Everythings looking great! Just finished going through everything since page 1 (don't ask where I found the time since I don't even know) I do have one slight problem though...
You've inspired me to dust of the marines I was going to try to sell and actually use them as an army again. Oh well. Look forward to following the progress on the Centurions!
Gitsplitta wrote: Here's a pic of the squad together. Let's have a little caption contest, shall we?? Winner get's an "atta-boy" and bragging rights for the day.
Spoiler:
Sgt. Alexandre to centurian Ulrich "The bathroom is over there. I told you to go before you got armored!"
I see these three are all with Hurricane bolters? Is the other 3 with ML's?
orkboy232 wrote: Everythings looking great! Just finished going through everything since page 1 (don't ask where I found the time since I don't even know) I do have one slight problem though...
You've inspired me to dust of the marines I was going to try to sell and actually use them as an army again. Oh well. Look forward to following the progress on the Centurions!
I'm very flattered orkboy... and amazed that you piled through the whole blog. Nobody's done that (to my knowledge) in 100 pages or more! Thank you investing that much of your time in my escapades... it's a real honor. I'm hoping you found some good stuff. Keep in mind there are short-cuts to most things in the OP... though it's been a while since I've updated them (granted... it's been a while since I've done anything with my marines too).
I'll begin the last one tonight... then I'll take a pic of the whole squad (or two squads) together. Still need to make/magnetize at least a couple LC/ML sets... but then I'll be ready to get painting!
Believe me. I was happy to look through the blog. I just hope mine can hit something remotely as good as this. Of course, I need to get off my butt and start painting more things for that to happen
Centurion #6 is done save for the base. For some reason I didn't quite get the gun alignment right on this one. A bit confusing as I used the same alignment system as I used on the other 5. However... it'll do. They sit and look good enough. Once he's done, I'm going to magnetize two sets of las cannons and ML pods... then we'll be ready for paint.
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dantay_xv wrote: Looks like Larry bought a sword to a gun fight boys.
Sgt. Larry: Can we gear up as Assault Centurions today?
Captain: No.
Sgt. Larry: But we always gear up with the grav cannons. Captain: That’s because they do an excellent job of turning the enemies of mankind into gravy.
Sgt. Larry: But I want to rip things in half with my hands!
Captain: I said “No”, that’s final.
Sgt. Larry: I’m taking a powersword, just in case. Captain: <sigh> Whatever. Just get the rest of your squad together and ready to deploy. With grav cannons.
dantay_xv wrote: Looks like Larry bought a sword to a gun fight boys.
Cent Sgt1: Larry put that sword down you don't know where its been!
Sgt Larry: But Sarge, its so shiny!!
Cent Sgt: By the throne thats it Larry! You need to go over there for a time out!!
Sgt Larry: I'still taking the sword with me... its my prescioussss
Sergeant Sosuke "Hey...look what I found, its a sharp pointy metal stick"
Squad Oni "Ooooo....What does it do?"
Sergeant Sosuke "I think back in 3rd edition you could stab people with it"
Sergeant Aizen "Why the hell would they want to get in hand to hand?"
Sergeant Sosuke "Not sure...I'd rather stick it in a Grav Gun and fire it at people"
Sergeant Sosuke "Hey...look what I found, its a sharp pointy metal stick"
Squad Oni "Ooooo....What does it do?"
Sergeant Sosuke "I think back in 3rd edition you could stab people with it"
Sergeant Aizen "Why the hell would they want to get in hand to hand?"
Sergeant Sosuke "Not sure...I'd rather stick it in a Grav Gun and fire it at people"
Everyone's have been very funny... But this one really strikes a chord with me. Well done WyFox, you win the internets for the day!
Sgt.: Freeze, If Nobody moves they'll walk right into 48' range!
Larry: I have a sword.
Sgt.: Whatever. We don't get swords. It's not in the codex.
Larry: that's cause you don't realize were Proxies
Sgt.: what are you F**king talking about?
Larry: I'm really a girl Eldar and Bob is a Nid.
Sgt.: If you want to keep the sword, just say so. Stupid Unbound lists!
Completely OT... but if you ever wondered what I do for a living (though I think I've mentioned it a time or two)... now's your chance. This is a youtube video made out of a powerpoint presentation that is intended to encourage members of the general public to volunteer to help us one with a biological survey this summer. The local university made the video out of the ppt & will be managing the volunteers... I'm just the "science guy". In any case, that's my voice... though it doesn't sound like it to me. (I also had a cold when I narrated most of it, so I'm a bit stuffy sounding.)
Very interesting stuff... Gits. I spent 5 summers as ground crew for an aerial applicator and 1 summer in Vector Control in my home town. This was while getting my Chemistry and Secondary Ed degrees.
Still grosses out my wife when I identify the species of mosquito that just tried to bite me.
Well, before I can paint them... I've got to finish building them. That involves making two sets of alternate weaponry (MLs and las cannons). Good thing I only have two to do, I'm finally running out of steam on these guys.
Nearly done... one more set of weapons to go.
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... and the last one. Yippie! I can start painting now!
I think the cork on the basing really pulls the models together. I have to tell you, I have not been a fan of these models since they came out, but your work on them has really made me want to pick some up for my Alpha Legion, Gits. Also, that video was actually really interesting. Though I'm studying social sciences, I always find biological lectures really cool.
@Darth Bob: Well, thank you sir. Very glad I could inspire you a bit. Kind of carrying on the tradition I guess as it was Eggroll that inspired me with his centurions. I absolutely detest the models as originally designed... not that they're badly designed per se, I just think it's a ridiculous concept and the fully completed models look rather silly (they look like kids in those stuffed, padded sumo suits you see at fares or school parties). With a little fiddling however... they become brilliant. The engineering of the models is very crisp. You just have to be very careful that you use exactly the right parts (arms/guns/cables) so that things fit nicely together. I wish there were more options for poseing... but you'd need something like Zinge's flexible cables to pull that off. (shameless plug)
@nerdy: Well, that's the risk of posting like that. I either get more cool or less, depending on how people imagine I sound. You have NO idea how bloody long it took me to make that recording (before it was edited into a cohesive presentation by the University blokes). Had to write the script... then read it. It's amazing how often I would trip over one word & have to re-do the whole slide (or at least a paragraph)... slur a word, speak too quickly, have an odd voice inflection, etc. There are still slides I wish I could re-record... but I was up against my deadline and had to trust that it would be OK as is.
@M0rdian: "App Bio with Phys & Pharm" ?? Speak English man!!
(317)708-3600
Unless they've recorded over me, you can get the showtimes for my theater-best in Indy!
This time it was in superspeed it's 2am and this should have been done 2 hours ago mode.
Might be a bit I'm afraid... with mother's day this weekend and a house full of visiting family the next. Spent today (my day off) cleaning the house and hardly made a scratch, so I suspect the next week will be more of the same. If I get a chance I'll give it a go... but probably need a stretch of several hours in order to get all the airbrushing done in one shot.
Well, I know this isn't what you guys were hoping for... but I did make some progress towards painting today. I got my bits order in, thus was able to replace the little bolter attachment that I shot across the room last week. I also was able to coax the bolters out of the chest of the very first marine I built (which was all glued rather than magnetized) & got them properly magnetized. THEN I went through and numbered each centurion on the under-side of it's base, and collected up all the loose bits and placed them in carefully labeled little zip-lock bags so I don't get the bits confused.
So at this point, I am actually ready to do some painting... unfortunately I burned up too much time with all this fiddling to do anything this afternoon. Perhaps later tonight... we'll see.
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Managed to sneak the airbrushing in! Hopefully pics tomorrow!
Well guys, sorry, no photo. My camera is now green color-blind and registers only the most extreme greens as green, everything else is grey. My phone just went on the fritz too and it won't keep any of the apps open for more than a few seconds, so I can't take a picture with that either. So you'll just have to trust me... they're getting painted. Have the airbrushing done on the bodies. I was going to airbrush the weapons today, however it's gotten very rainy and humid so I'm afraid that'll have to wait.
Ydd, do you want pics of the pics that the camera takes or pics of the pics that camera would take but can't. Maybe you need pics of the pics that that pics would show....
Wait... I think I broke something in my head....
Actually we figured out the problem... I should be able to take pics tonight. There's a skylight above the photo booth and it was graying out the green for every camera we tried. Must be something about how digital cameras "see" color.
First... camera weirdness. Camera settings haven't been changed to my knowledge... neither has lighting or anything else (turned out the skylight had nothing to do with it). What's interesting is that it doesn't seem to matter what digital camera takes this image... they all look the same.
Second... took this with the same camera using the flash. This is actually what they look like, more or less. Problem with flash is no depth-of-field though.
The color here isn't right either... but at least you can tell that they're really green.
Wow there is a really big difference in the pictures, maybe your maintis' were being chameleonic? The lower picture is a much nicer richer green.
I really like the Centurion on the far left. He looks like he ready t just drop his guns and pummel you into submission with his fists.. Really nice poses
I empathize with your camera. That's why I never paint green. I know from experience that it will break his preadolescent heart, but due to his color blindness he can never be a jet fighter pilot.
Now your camera is doomed to a life of painting everything pink or yellow and crying himself to sleep. He'll learn to cope...
Visions of pink and yellow Mantis headed centurions crying on a scateboard while dreaming of being fighter pilots... I think the sci-fi channel made that already!
Lol, glad they arrived in good order Gits! and I really do hope you like them all, it's a few different sort of styles throughout them but my favorites are Badrukk and the Mantis Captain, lets hope he kicks ass! the little Grots are pretty damn cool too. If you need anything else painted and you're happy with my work let me know and I'll do some more for you :-)
Sorry for the lack of updates guys. Last week through next weekend have been / are not going to be very good for getting any painting done. Packed from end to end with RL responsibilities.
I thought I'd make a coment unrelated to my current project, but certainly related to the hobby. It seems that since Adepticon and the advent of yet another edition of 40k, the interest in 40k at my local gaming store has really dried up. You can occasionally scare up a game, but it's rare that I can bring one of my boys to the shop and have us both find someone to play. A lot of the 40k players... both casual and regular, have instead moved to Warmachine and Dust Tactics. I think the screwed up 6th edition rules, the prospect of "Unbound" (i.e. "Unbalanced") armies and spending another $85 on a rule book pushed a lot of them over the edge.
Sad to see, especially since the boys were just getting back into it & the eldest just had his first real success using the airbrush. The group in Madison still seems to be going strong, but there's a big difference between driving 15 minutes for a game & driving 60 minutes.
Just wondering if anyone else had noticied a similar shift.
I am fully just skipping picking up the 7th edition book for now (if a new starter comes out I'll get it, if its just DV with a different book, pass). It sounds terrible, full of the things I don't like about the game. It has taken the half thought I had of going to Adepticon in 2015 and thrown it out the window. I hope the new codexes are 6th compatible, or I'll have to stick to whats out there now.
Not sure what the local scene is doing, it's pretty dried up to begin with. Though that is less 40k related and more the single game store is 95% Magic at this point.
Baraboo died out soon after 6th edition hit the tables as well. It took about 18 months before they started getting back into the game. To be honest, the player base there tends to have a real doom and gloom response to GW changes. If not for Ethan, Shannon, and Brian, 40k would have died out in Baraboo for good.
Reedsburg has a stronger more consistent player base with about 10 core members and 10 fringe. it is about a 38 minute drive from your house. For the most part, people in Reedsburg seem pretty interested in 7th edition.
Well my gaming buddies (ok, we're... 4-5) are quite the GW fanboys, TBH, so we'll be digging 7th as soon as it is up...
As we're only casual players, the "Unbound" feature seems like a good thing to us...
Denis can finally include his Slaaneshi Soul Grinder with his Slaaneshi Space Marines warband, I can start my SM Star Phantoms 9th company (ie. Devs only) without Tacticals or Scouts, and I've always wanted to build a Mech-only IG (erh... AM) spearhead, full of LRBTs, Hydras & Manticores !
The guys at beast of war had a good point about the unbound part. They see it as a way to play fluffy games and not worry about the rules. You just have to plan it out before hand with your opponent. But I don't have a gaming group where I live as I'm the only one I know who has 40k.
So I'm going to probably skip the 7th ed. and just continue what I'm doing.
From the rumour mill, I hear lots that I like - mostly elements of WFB and 4th - but just plain too soon. Given how little 6th I managed to get played, though, I'm not overly fussed. I'm not going to invest in the rule book - I don't need another overpriced cutting mat - though perversely I'll see what the starter set brings in reality.
I know up here the local GW is like a ghost town with regard to actual hobbyists (I'm making the generalization that they're people who take the time to paint their own models and are spending their own money) and instead is filled with 10-13 year old kids whose moms didn't want to drag them around the mall. I attended a mega battle 2 weeks back and wound up packing up my stuff and leaving due to the kid next to me throwing a tantrum because his entire deathstar grey knight unit was killed in a single round of shooting. At the point when he started throwing other peoples mini's I figured I'd had enough and left. Long story short its been the same thing here with support for 40k (and GW in general) drying up for games that are easier to understand, don't have moronic rulesets, and actually take customer opinion seriously.
In case any were wondering the local games have gone to a more historical mindset, with Flames of War probably being the most played one (short of card games of course)
Yggdrasil wrote: Well my gaming buddies (ok, we're... 4-5) are quite the GW fanboys, TBH, so we'll be digging 7th as soon as it is up...
As we're only casual players, the "Unbound" feature seems like a good thing to us... Denis can finally include his Slaaneshi Soul Grinder with his Slaaneshi Space Marines warband, I can start my SM Star Phantoms 9th company (ie. Devs only) without Tacticals or Scouts, and I've always wanted to build a Mech-only IG (erh... AM) spearhead, full of LRBTs, Hydras & Manticores !
I just have to laugh at how often WAAC armies get labled as "fluffy" now-a-days. Give it up Yggs... you just want to kick someone's a$$ on the table... that's OK. Be proud!
I just want to field an army with 3-4 Devastator Squads, 1-2 Centurion Squads, 1-2 Vindicators, 3+ Whirlwinds, 1-2 Hunter/Stalker, and a trio of Predators... Led by their heroic captain and his command squad, the company Chaplain, Librarian, Techmarines... And maybe a TFC or two...
How is that WAAC ?!?
[side note : when we play with my team, we usually tend to be more "generous" (for instance charge distances, weapon ranges, re-rolls of fallen die) if you play in character... Whether that helps one side or the other ! What's important is to create, build, live & tell a story ! But I agree that allowing unbound armies in tournaments could become.... dangerous ? ]
I'm in for 7th, the unbound rules means my CSM army becomes valid again as all my troops were moved to the elites slot in the current codex.
As primaraly a painter it also gives lots of opportunity for painting anything I want and fielding it, although I wouldn't run things that I wouldnt see not going to gether from a fluff point.
Then I hardly play real people so all of the above doesn't count for much, I expect the few tournaments I do play will be battle forged.
Well, I wasn't really asking for a referendum on 7th... just wondering if anyone else had seen a shift of interest towards or away from GW in the last month or so as a result of the new edition.
I'll have a copy of the new rules waiting for me at the shop once it's out... so I'm not boycotting it by any means. Just worried.
Every player in our club who is over 15 ( about 3 quarters) have moved to FOW, X-Wing and WFB. We only see one or two tables a month being used for 40k and it seems to be several kids banding together field a playable force on either side of the game due to the price issue.
Am kind of intrigued with 7th incorporating aspects of WFB, could bring about a renaissance
I'm hopeful, as the last two editions is where I actually began to try and learn the game but found the absolute cacophony of rules and sub rules and rules you use when someone uses another rule just quite frankly too much for me to take in for a fun game, so, I hope this time it incorporates more of a fun 'game' vibe rather than a more professional gamer feel which I thought was where it was aiming last edition, unbound is going to cause some raging but I think for a lot it will work and provide another way to actually play your force in a fun way, if one can take unbound then two can take unbound for an epic battle or one can try the chart and test their skills :-)
Well, my gaming "group" is going to 7th, cause I am going to buy it, read it, and let Ice borrow it. I want to try to force in more games even though he works weekdays and I work nights and weekends. I"m super excited about it though.
I can't remember the last time I played at my local gaming store so I can't accurately add to your observation Gits, but I am really excited about 7th. Instead of it being a whole new addition, it sounds as though they really addressed the problems a lot of people were complaining about 6th and simply updated it. Now, whether or not they did that effectively, I have no idea, but I'm really excited to check out the rules and get some games in. The unbound business I don't think will ever be used by me. When you play BA, Tyranids, and Orks, there are lots of uses for Troop choices. I'll let you know if any ridiculous ideas come to mind though.
I do have hope that they've fixed some of the issues in 6th, I'm just concerned that Unbound might be a straw that breaks the camel's back. I know I don't *have* to play Unbound... but I do like tournament playing and if Unbound becomes the standard tournament format I know I won't be able to field a list that's even competitive enough to have fun with. That is unless there are some real surprises in the new objective format. Not being able to contest objectives isn't much compensation when your opponent can table you reliably by turn 3.
My FLGS is seemingly in trouble... there's a tourney at the end of the month that is still using 6th edition rules, and I'll play in that. We'll see if 7th fixes anything, but I'm pessimistic about it. If I do quit 40k it will be for Blood Bowl, Flames of War and X-Wing.
People come and go all the time, depending on this "real life" thing I hear about.
But it is funny that there is a feeling of disappointing (seems a bit of a strong word, but can't think of a better one) the viewers, and needing to update regularly. Many a quiet spell has finished with a post of "Sorry I've been quiet but real life..."
Getting needed rest? Spending time with the family? What kind of excuses are those? Those sound like the same kind of lame excuses I use. You could at least come up with something original, like you were abducted by aliens, or were busy baking cookies to mail to all of us.
Take what time you need, motivation comes and goes, we’ll be here waiting.
Did you play in the team tournament?
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that seemed like some solid, against-all-odds moments !!!
Just get the rest of your squad together and ready to deploy. With grav cannons.
