ouch...now a cold...get better soon...is it still wintertime in your area? we only have rainy and windy days here... no snow at all...which is of course quite a blow for the kids...
and...
well now i have mini envy^^
tried to use the revell stuff...for glueing bitz of plasticcard together...didn´t hold together that well...can be pulled off...does the testors glue rather melt of just glue in the sense of superglue sticks togeter and can be snapped off?
the trick is to cover all the joining surfaces, any plastic glue will actually melt the two plastic surfaces together. Use enough glue and then clean off what excess spooges out, or make a bead of it like a weld. It will snap off until it cures properly, but it is workable and tight within a few minutes, so you can move on at a normal pace.
What's special about testors? Is it in fact quicker than other plastic cement?
Like ds said, all plastic glues have to be used in the same way:
Apply neither too little nor too much glue to both parts and let it start softening the surface for a moment before pressing them together.
Some types of plastic card have a finish/recipe that is a little more resilient to the solvent, in which case you should either slightly sand off the surfaces or let the glue work it a little longer before putting it together.
Now give it a couple of minutes to settle and your good to go.
I think that the Citadel is too thin and slow, even the thin glue is too thin. The testors tube glue meets the "stays where I put it" test and the "No cramps in the fingers holding it til it's done" test. Also, when done curing, any missed drops, smears, bits that ooze out or F'ups are, IMO, easier to file/sand off. So, when I put on a rivet, the glue oozes out, I can wait for it to cure before taking a fine file and cleaning up around it. I try not to get too much glue on the parts and fail miserably so anything that makes it easeir to clean up is fine by me.
Yeah what Baiyuan said, or use CLAMPS.
I agree, when GW first released their plastic glue, it kicked ass, except it was too expensive, and the bottles seemed to be only half full. And like all things that GW has ever done well, they then changed the formula for no apparent reason and ruined it, it became thin and just fell apart. Now it is expensive and worthless all in one.
at baiyuan...the sanding before gluing was my last resort for the now failed first test with the revell glue...i just pulled the two halves apart of my test... no melting took place there... so sanding it will be...i gotta crack this nut...i just gotta^^
and tho i would like to join in the moodyness about our loved/hated most company...this thread is way better than any nerdragethread so i think we better move on...
at dave... any new weaponry that have jumped out of yer head recently? cold has you still in its icy wrist? is your lady pampering you enough? after all there will be one heck of a backlog of to do thingies when you are cured...LOL...i said cured to the topmost gluer...lol^^
Naa, apparently I've been running a fever all day, my head has been foggy, medicine made me waste most of the day sleeping it off. I'm just sort of spaced out looking at things atm. I woke up earlier, and had such a vivid dream: that I had bought a very small airplane about 6 years ago, and parked it in a barn. When I woke up, it took me awhile to realize that it never really happened, and I really hadn't just forgotten about owning an airplane. WTF?
ohoh... i wouldn´t even want to speculate on that weird and twisted dream to onterpret it´s meaning... as storag... he is the resident psycho doc here...
well...when you do need sleep, then you sleep...no point in going against ones body...
also...when i am feverish...i tend to have either dreams about thick and suddenly thin figures or about falling off things...so i guess it all goes with the illness...^^
Ugggh, the thick thin fingers thing is horrid. I get hallucinations where i think every little crease in the pillow is razor sharp and im just lying on it... Not cool :/
I think the dream about buying the airplane, flying it, and parking it in a barn was a dream I had years ago when I was sick, but then forgot about. Then today's dream about it completed some strange circuit in my brain somewhere.
Thanks Jake, the more I look at it, the more I think the same. I'd need to do a cleaner job though, make a few more prototypes first. They are really easy to build.
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Dam just got home from work quick conversation with the misses (that was interesting but I love her) First of hope you feel better mate nothing like a stinker of a cold as for the dream might be a bad mix of the medication and sniffing that dam glue lol.
Now I have found the revell glue (blue) to work perfectly fine on plasticard with no real issues may be some holding time or clamping can be needed but on the hold I found it to work quite effectively.
I think the mane issue is administering the right quantity required for the job and in the correct way.
Dreams have no sense to them I find random with no purpose who ever can decipher them is more messed up than the dreams themselves ……...
Dreams have no sense to them I find random with no purpose who ever can decipher them is more messed up than the dreams themselves ……...
like freud said once...sometimes a cigar ius just a cigar...
well
just got home from work quick conversation with the misses (that was interesting but I love her)
that made me lol...seems like you are together for a loooong time...^^
well i will certainly experiment some more with the revell glue...all because... it is the one i have at hand atm... so it has to be^^
i didn´t clamp the stuff or sand before and i aplied the glue one side... so this all might be a bunch of mistakes here... next installment will be to overcome these then...
no, you shouldn't need to sand bare plastic, at least not the stuff I sent you. Maybe the translucent stuff (rectangle tube=vickers MG body- hint, hint) a sanding would scuff it to give the glue more purchase, but I never do that. You would think that Revell would sell a glue that actually works on their stuff eh?
from what i have understood of a guy from the hardware store... polystyrene is one thing up front first... poly...you never know what kind of mixture you might have in your paws... so i think i will have to do a second round with just your stuff to erase all doubts... dunno where i got my own batch... i got it before dakka days... so... any bets are off...
It has been a longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg time all ready or at least it seams so but no she is a keeper plus she takes me to forge world open day in march for my birthday and buys me stuff and even stands in the cue for 2 hours while I have a look around so she is a gooden really plus she let me have the spare room for my model room all mine.
I have really no complaints on the Revell glue I swear by it for sticking plasticard I think you may need to hold it for a while but thats all, I did have some plasticard once that seemed rather over shiny and was a real pig to stick so I had to sand the surface just to get it to stick but that was the only one I had that problem with.
@ dsteingass Do you get your plasticard really cheap ? it's just you sent some to Viktor I would have thought that would have been costly with shipping and weight costs ? If you don't mind me asking do you know any good suppliers of embossed plasticard its just a bugger to find over here.
I keep wanting to go to the states just to go to WalMart I know it sad but every time you see conversions or scratch builds and you ask where did you get that from it's always WalMart and it was dead cheap and I bought 8 or 10 of them.
You do have some handy stores over there for this kind of hobby we have Asda now owned by WalMart but we get nothing like your stores and the price is no where near the same.
Plain Sheet Plasticard, I get in bulk from www.iplasticsupply.com in California. A far as the embossed kind, no we are stuck gettign that from either Evergreen or Plastruct, and never cheaply. Wal Mart is ok, but it's not really the hobby mecca you might be thinking, for sale signs are the only plasticard to be found there, and really not too cheaply.
Naa, that stuff all fit into an envelope and shipped to him pretty cheaply.
well i guess the carepackage was just a freindly gesture... i wouldn´t want to estimate the postage fee... i sent due to a trade some stuff to a friend over to the US and it was quite expensive...then again i sent some heads to shaso as a friendly gesture too... i guess what goes around comes around...
embossed card must be available somehwre near you... i know i got a sheat of that stuff as a babysitting payment... did babysitting for a friend and she gave it to me when we both went some...wait for it...shopping in a craftshop...they had lots of other stuff there too... i guess it just comes down to better know your neighberhood/city...
@dsteingass WalMart was the toys not the plasticard people always converting Ork stuff and every time it always comes back to the I got them from WalMart for a few dollars or a dollar, It just seems to be a point of finding cool stuff to use at good prices. Thanks for the info will give them a look although plain I can get and the price is not to bad either the embossed is a pain in the arse to find and when you do it costs an arm and a leg.
@Viktor von Domm I want embossed plasticard the stuff that looks like industrial flooring or corrugated sheeting I have found some here and their but stock wise it is always lacking or way over priced (talking £6-£7 pound a sheet A4 size ) The last best deal I got was from a seller on ebay in the US hence why I asked dsteingass (I know the US is a big place but you might have known somewhere) I still got screwed by custom charges and postal costs but it still worked out cheaper than getting it from the UK.
I wish there was a thread with companies names and contact info for supplies so we can view it and go thats where I can get that from.
Back to Gaming Karma for a moment (man this thread changes fast). RSJake sent me the turret and sponsons for his Predator that he turned into a Rhino, which was very cool. Then I read a thread from a guy in the Dakka Swap Shop that lost his CSM army in a house fire and was looking to buy some miniatures. I'm sending him an old Chaos Sorcerer that I'll never get around to painting. No charge or trade, I'm just doing it.
Hobby Karma like that %100 why not help out some one I am sure they will return the favour when you need it I have done it a few times myself and had the favour returned to me with some torso's a member on Warseer had produced for a private order.
I asked if there was any chance of getting one for a project I was working on so I could try and cast a couple more up for a scene I was building if he did not mind he said no problems and sent me his last five torsos, when I asked how much he wanted for them he said nothing just pay the postage which I was extremely happy with I did keep offering to pay for them but he would not take any money for them.
I have to say I have had the pleasure of meeting and dealing with some of the nicest people through this hobby and continue to do so …. except you lot lol come on it was getting a bit soppy …...
Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Ok, ok... truth time- I sent it to him to get rid of it. It looked wayyyy too much like a Sorcerer of Tzeentch.
I like it heart felt sacrifice more like clearing space on the shelve, no but it is cool of you to donate it must be a real shame to lose anything in a fire but I would rather lose my miniatures than a love one well some of them any way ...
Mad who is mad , surely if we are all mad then that would mean we are the sane ones as the ones who are sane would differ from the rest of us therefore they are not of the norm which in this case is mad therefor they are different and so mad ….I think
As for derailing the tracks ran out along time ago half the time I cant even remember what thread I am looking at till I look up and read the topic heading I blame Viktor its all his fault …...
...well balme is such an overrated form of fame... i prefer to be rather looked at as nefarious and notorious schemer...
beside...mad...
She does'nt realize I am one of you......
that is so hilarious...
and who would want to have all their subbed threads as an email on their blackberry...that would cost me even more to wade through all my subed threads...because i would comment even more then...and i have millions of threads subbed...how do you think i can manage so much stalking to so many of yers?^^
Dam thats some useful stuff there, are there goes my budget again thanks for the link like that thin beam square could come in handy will definitely take a look and do they deliver to the Uk ?
I'm glad Skalk was able to pay it forward! Awesome! Skalk could you post a link to that thread? I might have some stuff to send too.
And Dave. Thanks a lot for posting that freaking sale! I was wanting to get some more Rhinos....but it looks like I need some of the things in that sale!
From what i can tell they will ship to the UK as long as it is not chemical based (which is pretty standard ) so it looks a gooden I was there browsing for 10 mins or so and spent a few hundred quid in my head of course but there is some great stuff.
The BOGO sale is this week only, don't delay!
Get not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 Solid Brass Bar Clamps
for the low, low price of $16.65+ Shipping.
As seen on DakkaDakka!
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(there, think that'll work? )
I think I'll cal lthe Shammy done now, every time I try to improve something, I think I make it worse. So for now..
Automatically Appended Next Post: And following Vik's trend (as usual) I present to you the current state of madness in my Skonkwerks, as I scramble to finish the ratskins.
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argh.... deedeeeddeeddee...*trying to get the adverts out of my system...in vain so far...*
that shipping would kill me atm... but i can see how versatile these would be...we definatly have to see about lowering the seelevel... then shipping will get cheaper as they can transport by truck or train^^
as for the mancave... wow...what a range of stuff fromevery corner of what men want...^^
And following Vik's trend (as usual)
harharharrrr ^^
and
The BOGO sale is this week only, don't delay!
Get not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 Solid Brass Bar Clamps
for the low, low price of $16.65+ Shipping.
As seen on DakkaDakka!
Order NOW at www.micromark.com
reminds me of:
and now your shamy has a certain ring of Ash too... and he does look very cool! which is just a comment about him in a nutshell...
Nice work love the battle worn industrial look and the minis are sweet kind of reminded me of charlies angels from back in the day. Don't now if that's just me or if there meant too, either way very stylish.
Thanks Man! I really appreciate the compliment! I had intended them to have a "style" but I wasn't sure exactly what, but I'll be happy with the Angels man
Guys ar elooking good, the pistol as well. The grip might be a bit thick though, try scrounging a few pistol grips from an IG player near you. Trust me, he'll have plenty
CommissarKhaine wrote: the pistol as well. The grip might be a bit thick though, try scrounging a few pistol grips from an IG player near you. Trust me, he'll have plenty
I concur, you could easily pilfer the entire hand/grip area. I do want to give some props on the first attempt of a rounded grip. That's thinkin outside the box!
Dam you have been busy you must nearly have the gang complete, like the earthy tone you have used for these it has turned out well you really are putting me to shame I should crack on with some building and painting really should no really should……… really ………..should …….start …….
Automatically Appended Next Post: As for the deals if you check the catalogue in the listings next to the items that are specials it saids Promo that was the only way I could tell
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just looking at your Mauser-Pattern Laspistol screams star wars, IMO I would cut the bottom of the handle notch of round of the second section and at the back just slice and sand so there is more of grip to the handle then it will be spot on.
I have no plans on the Mauser, It is just for fun, testing a new design. Yes, it looks like Star Wars for a reason, because Lucas based Han Solo's blaster off of a Mauser in the first place
“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.”
funny that you should actually make a mauser after i just saw specially that pic of yours you posted off of another blog...lol...
and who in his right nerdy mind didn´t knew that han´s blasdter was based on the broomhandle???
your version is instantly recognizable, but i have to fall in with the others, while the look of the handle is as classy as one might get... but i think with this handle you are more in sclae with a ogryn commissar^^ than yon typical IG footslogger sarge^^
to get the rihjt feel to the minibit i think a SM handle wourl be apropriate too... tho we do have to admit...that is a bit cheating, eh? grey is grey and wont get white^^, had that argument with myself earlier today too and i decided all white^^
Yeah yeah, it was just a prototype/idea. I want to lengthen the barrel and work the iron sights out better still, and make the body even more recognizable. Keep an eye out for The MK2 Mauser-Pattern Laspistol tonight.
There is no rule that says you can't use bitz too, to mount the pistol in a hand, you almost have to, unless you are good at making GS fingers and hands.
Maybe with the next few projects I have going on I'll get that down to an art. Maybe I could have Wehrkind make some casts of just the hands? Or I could just make hands gripping plain handles too! Brilliant!
Yes yes I know it was based on the Mauser who doesn't and if I am not mistaken several others are based on ww2 weapons like the E-11 blaster carbine based on Sterling submachine gun the DLT-19 based MG-34 and so on the list is endless.
Now back to topic I dont even get around to finishing the work I want to do never mind just doing test designing bloody hell how much spare time do you have you lucky git .
Do we get the group shot of the gangers together then,
Automatically Appended Next Post: I want to have ago at building these based on the Lee-enfield
based on the lewis witch in its original form would make a great 40k weapon
Automatically Appended Next Post: Sorry to steal you thread but just came across these over on Maxmini thought you guys might be interested not released as of yet but soon I cant wait LOVELY
You know me, the more details the better. So go for it, readout, iron sights, slightly smaller hammer, all the works.
By the way you owe me 150$, buddy! Well, in a way at least, it's your fault I spent that much money on tools after all. Why am I so weak?
DST! You have outdone yourself! Excellent work, my friend!
I also like the detail that you added with the sights and readout.
Some super nitpicky CC: (i.e. feel free to ignore )
I'd like to see the typical las-weapon barrel underscore, though that would be a fiddly bit to work on.
I think you've lost a little bit of the mauser feel with this last prototype. I think it's the proportions of the magazine and the back of the pistol. Lose 25% of your magazine width and a hair off the back.
lovley stuff... having had yesterday nothing but strife with my computer, still not really ticking like it used to be...tho i stayed a bit after the initial reustration off the damned thing... now seeing the development of the blaster! bloody brilliant work mate! every pic there was something for me to be picky about... seeing now the final version! what a grace!
i hpoe you feel mighty proud about the amount of work you did there...same goes for the cool looking ratskins...looks like only slight deatils are needed on the base and hardcoating is the last step...
the carving of the broomhandle is very good... we all have to remeber what scale this actually is... scandalous small! mate i dunno where your voyage may send you but that is definatly a great one... hope you enjoyed that built!
Not much to say after all that praise but its bloody awful…………….. Haaaaaaaaa only kidding that is some small tinkering you have taken up there I like the effort you have put into and did not shy away from adding more.
Like mentioned when you look at the scale you are working with it's amazing how much detail you have put into it especially only using white plastic , I would have had to turn to GS would not have attempted to use white plastic…….
Group shot looks great nice uniformed look for a rabble but works what kind of look are you doing on the bases ?
Thanks everybody!
@Rawson- I think you are crazy bro, if I added the longer flash cowling with the bottom slit (easier to make than you might think- cut partially through a tube before slicing it at an angle then slipping it onto the barrel) like you mentioned, it would lose the simplistic Mauser barrel look (I tried it before settling on this one). I think the iron sight on the cowling is a bit too much IMO, but it is necessary if I am to have the iron sights. I'm not seeing what you mean about the magazine tho.
dsteingass wrote:Thanks everybody!
@Rawson- I think you are crazy bro
You wouldn'd be the first
dsteingass wrote:Thanks everybody!
if I added the longer flash cowling with the bottom slit (easier to make than you might think- cut partially through a tube before slicing it at an angle then slipping it onto the barrel) like you mentioned, it would lose the simplistic Mauser barrel look (I tried it before settling on this one). I think the iron sight on the cowling is a bit too much IMO, but it is necessary if I am to have the iron sights.
Yeah, I could see that. I should have known you'd already thought of and moved on from any of my ideas
dsteingass wrote:I'm not seeing what you mean about the magazine tho.
Again, so nitpicky I (almost) feel bad saying it, but here's what I mean
Just that the proportions would be closer to the original Mauser if you shaved a bit off the front. Probably a whopping .01mm or something
Dave, I would be honored to make a hand for that! Although if you want them sculpted on before or after making resin copies that is your call. I would do it after, so you have some with and some without. Your call though.
My only critique would be the thickness of the trigger guard. but I know how small this is. Very difficult to work with!
Great job! I say make more pistols! Different ones! Go nuts!
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Yeah, the trigger guard was truly a bitch, but that is what makes the GW plastic weapons so cool, a quick 90 degree snip and they fit on any hand. As long as the trigger finger was in a round trigger guard, I don't think it would matter much.
Well, that was quick! I guess by the end of the month you'll have painted every Necromunda gang available. Anyway, you did a good job. The gang has a coherent look, you refrained from using any flashy colors and a limited pallette is one thing I always dig. There are some spots where you could have done better, like the eyes, but overall it is a very nice looking gang, kudos!
About whether or not there is a market for custom made guns in 28mm: Talk to Zinge from Zinge Industries, he's on this forum and I remember a while ago he was looking for convincing weapon designs, because he had run out of ideas. Maybe if you two worked together, you could make your designs available to the community without having to bother with production/distribution. Just an idea.
Automatically Appended Next Post: P.S. Look what westwind will be bringing out soon:
Dave if your happy with them then we are happy with them thats what matters ……overall I think you did a good job and in the time limit well done.
As for the Zinge idea I have dealt with him a few times and he does take peoples input quite well, he also has produced a Solo blaster using CAD which is a nice model but my favourite is his flamer pistols…..
Automatically Appended Next Post: Those west wind mini's look pretty good I have to say nice find Baiyuan .
I just ordered some of Zinge's wheels last week, awaiting them patiently. I am happy with the Ratskins, that was just a jab at Baiyuan in fun, I appreciate being pushed just past my comfort point, and Baiyuan is really goood at that
Now onto other things.
This morning, I have made my new Chopper from Micro Mark into an efficient rivet cutting jig, capable of producing Consistant sized Rivets!
Give or take a few larger ones The Chopper arm mechanism has some play, so it can be swiveled right and left some- I can tighten or loosen that play how I want.
Automatically Appended Next Post: It is much easier to do the bases first -- but it can be done backwards, as I have shown you with the Ratskins
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Baiyuan wrote:
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Thanks Baiyuan!- is this "payback" for my making you blow your budget @ Micro Mark? You KNOW my Catachans NEED more diversification, as their regiment is transported from world to world, they lose numbers, and begin to take on remnants of Jungle Fighter regiments from wherever they are
What? I pushed you? I'd never do that... Well at least I don't remember doing so, seriously.
On the other hand being pushy is an occupational hazard for teachers and smart asses and I'm both unfortunately. So if I have somehow contributed to you suddenly having a well painted gang of slumdog killionaires, I'm alright with that.
i think these westwind minis would be a good way to make even catachans have some hard veteran scouts at their side...
the rivet slicer looks really cool...i think i have to try to scratchbuild these aperature... for now my feeble attempts at making rivets out of rods were rather futile...
and the latest shots of your ratskins have totally convinced me of your eyepainting... the second juve and the sawed off shotgun shammy are by far the best...
er...
are those new bases kind of a way to say you have a new gang in the making???
besides...if we with our weapon making attempts don´t aim for global domination through 28mm scale guns...then i think i would be more than happy to make this small arangement inbetween our small group of guys here...
...
Thanks!
@ Neil- This is another Micro Mark e-mail only sale thing, everyone should sign up for the email newsletter to catch these deals, the chopper was only $20!
Automatically Appended Next Post: @Vik- when Slicing rivets with a knife, use this same chopping concept, tip of the knife anchored into your cutting mat, then use this same angled "chop" action, pushing the stock from left to right, just like chopping carrots or celery!
i tried but it didn´t happen as planned... i bet this takes some getting used to... i use everything from xacto knifes to even those carpet knifes...yet clean cutting is what happens to others
A wise man once spoke to me of achieving the spiritual state known as "Rivet Zen", he should take his own advice.
And yes, the bases mean, another gang
But who? My new Orlocks, and old Escher's arrived in the mail today, plus I have some Van Saar as well.
No, I think these belong to the
since you opted for muted colors with your ratskins...what is meant to go for the delaques? how about some real poping purple to red coats? like some nice pimp coats^^
as for rivet- zen... that was rather for me always to the apling side of rivet work... the production of them i think i ceated you all rodusers for... a holepunch is clearly a whole differnt line of work...way easier than rodwork..
have you filled the gaps in the bases with glue and sand? nice idea! i was a sec worried there you might leave those gaps gaping still^^
They all still have their runner under at least one foot (usually the one not standing on treadplate) and then gravel and super glue yup I haven't decided on color yet, but they are white now
Purple no, since my Pimp from the experimental "Girls of Old Town" gang, with the pimp- I haven't finishedd painting him, but he has a purple pimp coat and hat with feather.
That's cool, but they are supposed to be Hive-Mafia types, in my mind's eye. Baiyuan said he'd disown me if I painted them wearing light brown yuppie coats
I am thinking either shiny brown heroin-dealer leather or black..I dunno.
if black do them in shiny gestapo black... you know that glossy black..
or you could try to sculpt them some hats...now that is an idea... mafia heads and then these bald heads are gone... or you could do the hairdo thing for them...any hairdo would do^^
But what about these new-fangled Orlocks?
They are different, no loincloths thankfully, they could EASILY be painted and absorbed into my Catachan army I am rather impressed by the amount of weaponry included in the box though. GW wasn't skimping this time around.
those weapons really look sweet...and i second that thought, olrocks are perfect counts as catachans... even the older minis, like the outlaw soldiers from apocalypse now...
@ dsteingass You must have an endless supply of cash how do you afford all these necromunda models Do you have any of the Ash Waste minis …….,……. I do I love em but to dam scared to paint them make sense out of that
I think Black but be careful with the shiny black ,I use matt black with a mix of pearl paint translucent not white pearl (I used a cheap craft acrylic paint thinned ) It worked well gave it that shine but more of a reflective shine than gloss ……. if hat makes sense
No Hair no hats they look wrong Sorry Vik there Gangers not bankers
Automatically Appended Next Post: That choppers seems to work well I have one but I find the blade is crap it seems to move when you apply weight to cut so there is a slight movement in the cut does yours suffer from this at all
Dont you think we have enough nasty bankers ruining the world without adding them to our hobby
Giant cat people, Thunder Cats you must have heard of them
And who is getting married
Automatically Appended Next Post: Dave are you buying these sets new or shopping around for them Just I have considered getting the Orlocks and wondered if that is what you get in the set
1. I wish I had endless cash, no, i have been collecting these Gangs for years from trades, ebay, shows, conventions, etc. except the new Orlocks, I just ordered them from GW Specialist Games site. . The Ratskins were found secondhand somewhere, and I had to strip paint and corrosion from them, then they were disinfected, once the funk did not regrow on them, I primed them and put them back into storage for several years. Besides, nobody paints all of their miniatures as soon as they get them anyways!
2. I'm not sure what you mean about the Chopper LDD, it has 2 screws for changing/tightening the blade (you have to change the standard no.9 blade often, like any knife). It has a tightening screw and nut too, so there should be no movement in the arm, unless you want movement.
3. This is what everyone gets in the set of new Orlocks, but for the older boxed sets, you get 8 randoms in a box, but always 1 leader, 1 heavy, etc.
See, that is much better built than mine, you have a proper cutting mat, but still, you can't change the blade??
How does a solid steel razor blade bend? Are you sure your arm just doesnt need tightened?
I am ALWAYS looking for metal Catachans, can never get enough! See you have to be willing to acquire minis when you find them, makes digging through the "bins" at GenCon and similar shows the best part IMHO.
Can you please show me a picture of your Chopper from the left side? And the bottom?
Mine has two screws on the bottom that attach the hinge for the arm, then there is an adjusting screw/nut on the hinge of the arm. If you have lateral play in the arm, then something needs tightened, it HAS to be the case. If they built that thing unadjustable, I would be VERY surprised, Model Railroaders don't generally tolerate that sort of proprietary tool.
As for Catachans, I need any mini with a chainsword or Bolt Pistol or any Officer.
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Same here, my arm only cuts at the 90 degree position, it doesn't swivel if that is what you mean. I REALLY think you should check it out from all angles man, look for some adjustment screws or something. I just can't believe they aren't there. That is the NAME BRAND Chopper 2, mine is the Micro Mark knock-off. Micro Mark used to sell the name brand, then they switched to this model. You have the premium model there.
Wow, that seems like it is an overly-complicated design! I really can't see any type of adjustment at all! Anything on the bottom? Amazing! I'm glad I didnt buy the name brand now.
However, I do like how yours has the measurements etched into the fence and then inked bright yellow. I had to buy the optional stick-on ruler, but I have to custom cut it to fit, and I just don't like it so haven't put it on.
Never before seen the new orlocks! But I have been known for living in the past - will be intrigued to see them painted.
I bought a new-school goliath ganger the other day - he came with like 6 possible weapons - they are def not skimping on the guns - which is handy for all those 2nd hand armless minis one can buy.
Haha! The ONLY original Orlock I have (besides the heavy I made as a Catachan) is the one you sent me on that trade Weety I just haven't ran across any in 10+ years collecting minis. Of course, I rarely ever buy minis at full price tho, I always look for stuff on the cheap. I LOVE to go to conventions like GenCon and spend an entire day rummaging through the mountainous boxes of stuff at the Dealer tables/swap meet/auction areas.
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Automatically Appended Next Post: And now for:
The Diary of a Mad Riveter
You should ONLY use the finest fresh-cut rivets, any TV Chef will tell you that "the fresher the ingredients, the better the dish"
And you need a knife blade that has a pointy tip, if you have a knife blade that has a sort of hook-tip, these work well too
1. Stab the rivet, enough to pick it up, but not enough to cut it through (you will develop a sixth sense/feeling for it with practice)
2. (This really should have been step 1, but now you have to put your knife down, sorry) Spooge some fresh plastic glue (testors blue tube is my go-to here, because the smell is better than the orange tube, and no I don't sniff glue to get high Baiyuan!) onto a post-it note or paper or anything but plastic.
2.5 Dip the rivet in glue. It should have a nice blob sticking to it like the following image
3. Place the rivet onto the desired spot, swirling it slightly so that the glue spreads, then when it is in it's final sweet spot, if you stabbed it right, the glue will have more force than the knife blade and the rivet will magically come loose as you pull away.
If you stabbed it wrong, and it sticks, just use your other hand or stick, or whatever to push the rivet down as you pull the knife tip away. After your 50,000th rivet, these still occasionally happen.
4. Repeat steps 1-3
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To fill in any gaps that may be exposed in the slot, it brings the slot level with the grating. Adding things to super glue is always a way of strenghtning models too, it's like miniature concrete when mixed with filler. I didn't really need to fill much of a gap on that Ganger, I just did it to show you how.
big update there mate... you are a teach and a half! and boy did these pics of the plastic containers sent shivers down my spine... rrrr...excellent! there are so many new models you heva not yet used... now i wonder if it would be possible to make a valhallan gang... that would be a nice thing... so many cool mini...
as for the tooltime tut... the same goes for whoever is behind the times and still used cardboard made rivets^^ same porcedure ^^ tho i have to say my needle and pva methode often lost the rivet in the glue touchdown...the plastic glue is one hell of a better glue for that methode...pva really sucks and i do mean it!
is that now a cawdor mini? whatever happened to the delaques? did they already went into hiding just after the painting? and all these new bases.,.. so you are now in full swing with the gang makings?...hmmm^^
Delaques Were primed last night, they are ready for someone to sit down and paint them now. Lazy bastards won't paint themselves. These are the new sculpts of the Orlocks Vik. I don't have any Cawdor.
The only Necromunda figs that I own is the Cawdor gang, and I'm finally going to get them painted...but not as Cawdor. They'll be Chaos traitors of some variety. Ifalna will do a much better job than I could...and it will leave me free to continue painting Cadians...and more Cadians...
Love the minis though. The sculpts still hold up pretty well.
Your gangs look great! Are those Orlocks new sculpts or just castings from remastered molds?
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I trimmed all but about 1mm of fat from around the chops, just enough to dissolve into pure flavor.
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That was wonderful! Cooked tender and juicy served over a huge bed of basmati rice, all it needed was a little soy sauce. Ahh
dsteingass wrote:They didn't re-sculpt all of the gangs, just Orlock, Goliath, and Ratskins I think.
Wrong. Redemptionists, Ratskins, Goliath, Scavvies, Orlock, Van Saar (though it was just a booster and was only available for less than a year). Not counting the individual models that were released in the glorious time when we had Fanatic.
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Automatically Appended Next Post: I took the evening to paint the 1/72 Mortar crew for a review- not related to Necromunda At All.
Yes, the chest sculpts are REALLY that bad!
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Yes I sleep! 6 hours a night, more on weekends, why? I'm also 5 hrs behind you in the UK.
I don't think my readers care as much about my gangs- I am getting read numbers, but FAR LESS comments than I do when I am building terrain.
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dsteingass wrote: I don't think my readers care as much about my gangs- I am getting read numbers, but FAR LESS comments than I do when I am building terrain.
I guess that's true. I really should have said something about your ratskins now that they're finished, but part of the problem is that I'm not really into Necromunda, so I only sort of know what's going on. All three gangs are totally stock, which is cool from a collectors POV, but doesn't generate the comments like customizing does. Your bases are fantastic compared to most, but you've set the bar high for yourself with all of your terrain.
Don't let the lack of comments get to you. You're doing great work! I'll do better at telling you what I think, even if it's just "Looks good to me"
Well, you have to have the basic stock miniatures in your gang to play Necromunda, before you can add the more customized miniatures (extra Juve meatshields, plasma guns, etc.) in a campaign or series of games. In 40k, your common lasman will always be a common lasman, in Necromunda they gain experience, gear, and stats as you play.
The gangs just need to get done, and miniature painting to me, is more of a necessity, I am not striving to win any Golden Demons or anything. However, I AM interested in making the best Terrain out there
Giving a necro gang from stock a nice paintjob isn't worth as much words as creating/scratch building ingenious things from plastic card. I think this is quite obvious.
Which doesn't mean, I didn't enjoy your ratskins, as you can see from my comments.
dsteingass wrote: I don't think my readers care as much about my gangs- I am getting read numbers, but FAR LESS comments than I do when I am building terrain.
Dave, your terrain brought me here, but the overall experience is keeping me hanging around. Do what you do and, like Metallica, we may not always like it but a true fan will always buy it.
ok... i refuse to take part in this fishing for compliments...^^ no seriously... maybe it is still that time of the year thingy?
i remeber gitsplita asking the same question not too long ago... and you probably saw his many threads...so i think that can happen from time to time...
but for me the current scratchbuilding of guns...the bases and your new found interest in painting is truly a fresh breeze here...
tho i wouldn´t mind the odd new building^^
don´t dampen your spirits by yourself mate! it is way to far away for me to kick your depressed arse^^...so have pitty with me and clench your teeth and get on with that work!
Maybe I just need a project to get excited about atm, It's not that I dread mini painting, I enjoy it, but maybe it's not really as fun as plastic work?
there is nothing to be dreaded... same goes to us viewers here^^ but well...your true calling is and will be plastic wonders done by scratch... dont get me wrong... that big gun of yours was fun to watch in the making...but if you had done that all by yourself... that rage of aplause would have lasted way longer... (am i making myself clear here, or just possibly a clown now?)
Ya, but I have to either finish a project or sort of abandon it for a while if it is a big project after so long. Problem is all my projects turn into big jobs
aynway... i will now go to sleep... had my tryout day one at the school i talked about earlier on... second day will be also hopefully nice... cross fingers for my still ongoing existice afterwards^^
Dave although as vik mentioned fishing for complements is poor show indeed and as Vik I am not going to fall into this entrapment of boosting your ego however hearts will always be won with converting and building from scratch.
The thing is though without our little stock friends would we be here in the first place so remember creativity, inspiration and admiration was all born from our little friends so every now and then give them a little air time.
So Dave hats of you to you for giving them their moment and a well deserved coat of paint
Vik good luck to you with the job I take my hat of to you for taking on a real demanding job after all shaping minds must be hard especially with a mind like yours after all those who can do those who cant teach
Love the ratskins dstein, cant wait to see how the delaques turn out as well. Imo it would be cool to see delaques with black skin and white coats, a sort of f you to conventional schemes!
Need to get one of those "guillotine" thingys as well, would make my life riveting so much easier!
Indeed Rogue, Indeed! and since the others are still drying, I shall begin the orgy of paint with:
Beebopdrums Tower
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Grungy drybrushes laid right over the black primer
Gnarlock Green, Boltgun Metal, and Tinny Tin (Vallejo)
Only 1 rivet came loose during the drybrushing, it has been blessed, sanctified, and re-glued on now
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I will let that wash dry until tomorrow and go to bed
Automatically Appended Next Post: It's funny, as soon as I posted terrain, it was like moths to a flame, Rogue and Vitruvian popped back in! Thaks guys! Missed ya
awwww.. i know... but dont worry i have been completly virgin of computer for the past couple days, but i tried to make an apearance that way you guys dont dare go a day without seeing This Guy! (not really). Soo a question about the paint, do you plan on a. rust or ware and tear, and b. other accent colors on the green?
Looking good black undercoat my desired colour for all my minis, at first I thought a ladder was needed but then thought it is either a lift in the centre column or stairs is this correct sir
I like the paint scheme maybe some hazard lines would help blend with earlier work maybe near the doors on the column, mind you sorry to say this and only mine opinion but I liked the green in the second picture more than the third but like I said thats just me.
The reinforced walk way is looking great real nice work like the use of COD bitz and sparingly (most terrain are over done I find ) I have to say seems like you have a good stock of tools there my friend commission by any chance lol………..
Dude, I'm loving the terrain! I'd put that elevated bridge on a small rotating lazy susan thing so it could spin.
I used to paint my Orlocks & Goliaths in a similar pattern as my Catachan IG army, that way I could use the models together. When I went to the local game store to play a game of Necromunda everyones eyes would get big when I pulled out 100 Gangers O.O
Just looking back through some of your older post again and came across your renegade miniature Disco Stu which reminded me of a mini I converted after being inspired by that one I used a Copplestone Zulu mini and built this thought you might like
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Thanks everyone, yes there will be plenty of markings and weathering, be patient, it will come.
The center column of the structure has an imagined maintenance ladder inside behind the access hatches. In game-terms, you can open the hatches and climb up or down at regular movement distances, there is also a top hatch on the cooling apparatus. I like hatches everywhere in Necromunda, I use the physical hatch for exit points when using the tunnels and vents rules, it makes for some very sneaky deployments.
at LDD... you dare to present stuuf like that and not make even the sliughtest action to make your own thread...? i have filled with followers more than thirty pages full of banter with not as much as such cool, work on one mini... go man go and grow yourself a pair lone dirty dog! and make your own thread... that instant man! i want to see more of disco stu and that lovley flintlock pistol...and for that matter that sabre too... hurry up dude... or there will be a reckoning! be warned!
as for the dave productions...
men that was an awfully long wait to finally see those building... that big tower with the vent... it has so much personality in iteslf that i would like to introduce it to my firndlist here at dakka^^
also you made quite the strong progress on that bebop tower already! ... green even... how come? i thought you would be more in the blueish depatrment with the munda buildings... nevertheless this will pop greatly!
We cannot forget WHY I am doing this, To honor the original card terrain artwork by maintaining the original "look and feel". That means blues and greens
I'm shooting for the green that they used to use on hospital walls actually, to give it that old and neglected lok once the paint is chipped and rust and weathering are applied. If I do it right, there won't be too much green paint left, but just enough that you know what color it maybe used to be.
The buildings are now looking very nice with that lick of paint! Been waiting and it was worth it, you could get away with just washing that bridge maybe some spots of rust, and done!
rofl...instantly recognized the pics...lol...yeah... quality sickness to be having after these colors...you get them in all official buildings for some reason...wonder why...all over the world...i suspect a secret society behind that...sounds like a job for the riveteers...onwards for style and better colors!!!
maybe the goverment had just a pretty big can of green open and didn´t want it to go to waste?...we will never get to the bottom of this one...it will be hushed up to the highest places...
That 70's green is still used today in our hospitals a bit like the paint our health care has not moved on since then either .
Vik thanks for the kind words and the not so nice ones, like i said earlier I will start a thread soon as I work out what i want in it and what I think is good enough.
Dave thanks for the kind word to mate o you did not leave any I guess that is what you get for jacking your thread then lol
The Beepodrum tower what is the mesh on each level from
@LDD- no problems bro, you'll get there. Your blog doesnt have to be about anything in particular, just think of it as a project diary. I use my own threads to remember how I did things. The mesh is circular granny grating. I had to prime it with spray paint made specifically to meld to plastic, otherwise, paint just flakes off of the stuff. It is soft plastic.
Each level is actually a Folgers Coffe Can lid
Brilliant coffee tin Have you made anything using small tins like beans tin they always loo like they would make cool water towers Have to ask what is granny grating
The thread will come soon once decisions is made
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I'm a bit late - but your ratskins are cute and will bring life to the bare metal rivity-ness of your terrain. Scuttling around the girders and up and down the ladders, eating mouldy cheese and crumbs etc.
i second dave statement about not a consistent thread of your own LDD... not that i use my thread as dave does as a means to remember because as soon as a write something it is either forever inside my wetwear harddrive or lost forever^^ whatever comes first...
at dave...hmmm...the more sparkly green suited me better...but i think now will tie in better with the rest of that rotting on terrain^^... so^^
that shammy has to have steely balls...i bet up there the wind is pretty chilly...
LOL @ Vik- Like I said before "he prefers the breeze" The whole structure appears to be a heatsink for some equipment several layers below the surface anyhow, but such is the nature of the underhive, we can only speculate what this ancient equipment was once used for
@Weety thank you!
@ Shas, thanks- that was what I wanted.
@LDD I look for the modeling/terrain potential in everything, it's just automagic at this point.
I prefer the duller green fits the theme better sorry Vik but it's true looks more miss used and abused as the Necromunda world is as for uses in everything I do that but the misses suddenly give's me a huge kick to the arse and saids no more junk I don't know what she means
well... to show off a bit... my wife from time to time actually brings "junnk" at home for me to play/model with it...that is a way of her to show how much she likes it when i create stuff... tho she starts usually to yell if the said stuff is littered around for too long...^^
YEs! You can Honaw! In this thread, I have given everyone a step-by step guide bro! You just lack confidence, and you get that with practice
Here, I am praticing what I preach Vik is correct, I am preparing to airbrush, my airbrush scares the feth out of me, I lack confidence in using it. Mostly because I am overly-afraid of not cleaning it properly and ruining something, but I have now tried the windex in the color cup trick I learned from the internets, and it is working! Woohoo! great! my confidence is slowly building
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targeted advertising perhaps?
mate! it always amazes me that other peeps out there have the same fears...and yours you expressed now would have been exactly my own...for the same reasons...well...be sure that i cross my fingers for ye in this endeavor!
as for the nice add...i didn´t find it in the services and existing add...
also...i think we are all able to make our own buildings / terrain...stuff... dave has lots of expierience and of course the full talent in that discipline...but that shouldn´t stop us from trying...he who never tries...will always fail^^
Airbrush scares me too, I hate to clean ANYTHING! But it doesn't take too long, and the results of using it are really cool. Good luck! Can't wait to see what you do!
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If I ever do this again, remind me to wrap the damn legs and bottom floor grate in tape too ok?
..and more paper towels down too
I got here late. Sorry! Yeah, I usually bring in an old cardboard box to do my painting in. It still get all over the table...that I also put a load of newspaper down on!
Yes, nothing has safety railings in the grimdark, but plenty of hazard-stripe painting servitors
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The more you use the airbrush the more confident you'll get. If the paint is that runny you're probably applying it too heavily on one area or its too thin. Many multiple light passes is the key to airbrushing.
Why have railings when hazard stripes do the same job! Cheaper too i imagine
great progress here mate...and goes to show that we have nothing to fear than fear itself^^
seeing those hazard stripes i have one suggestion tho...on the yellow stripes i would do a thin black stripe in the middle... for my taste the stripes are a bit too wide...i hope i am not spoiling something of the coolness of that tower now...
but you working now with airbrush and gaining confident now with every use...that opens op a whole new range of options...painting will never be the same... now painting gets exiting^^
I like the size of the black stripes myself ……. I think if they were thinner it would make it look cluttered and steer your eye to much towards them.
I also like the way the paint has applied itself the black over bleed and patchy ness where the tape was has given it a distressed feel without you having to do so, maybe a bit of weathering here and there and the jobs a gooden.
Thanks guys! Much appreciated comments, and I mean it!
I am not above allowing any "happy accidents" to remain and pretend that I meant to do it that way But yes, some of the bleed through will definitely help with the weathering process.
There probably won't be any work tonight, as we are going to see the play "Young Frankenstein", one of our all-time favorite Mel Brooks films adapted to the stage.
"walk this way"
I'm thinking of cracking open my airbruch case this weekend and giving my Mk I Rhino a good coat. I have been playing with the idea of a red camo. Using torn masking tape to add the secondary colors. We'll see if I feel adventurous or not.
Cool Jake, I look forward to seeing it! I need to learn more about mine, especially the different size patterns I can get from different nozzles and needles. I have 3 of each, but I don't know anything about them.
Really great looking terrain. Recreating the original cardstock in plastic card looks so much better. I like your bases as well, they really tie the models in with your scenery.
The show was awesome! Except for the guy sitting in front of me with the giant head and bald spot who kept moving his giant head every time I moved to see around his giant melon...It was a great show!
Well, I have no idea what "synthdiet food is but I am sure you can get it in bar form hence vending machine …….. Takes blaster shots laser rifles and bolter rounds does not except all major heavy weapons use of these will destroy vending machine and contents ……..
Underhive can have rat dispensers …….. sorted ….. and cats …….
LOL, From the first bg fluff released in WD#130 October 1990
"Below the twilight layers is the darkness of the undercity. Here, the only light comes from the artificial glowglobes. Everything, even the air, on these levels has been used before and reprocessed several times. The proteins and minerals in the universal synthdiet is reclaimed from human bodies that no longer have need of it. On hive worlds, everything that can be recycled is recycled, including the people themselves."
It is Soylent Green, basically!
The drug Spook is made from the green dust that the oldest synthdiet decomposes into, it opens up the latent psychic abilities in the user.
It's the Grimdark version of Mad Cow disease, except it gets you hunted down by the =I=.
sigh...Since all 4 of my blog readers demand it....