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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 13:52:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ouch...now a cold...get better soon...is it still wintertime in your area? we only have rainy and windy days here... no snow at all...which is of course quite a blow for the kids...

and...

well now i have mini envy^^

tried to use the revell stuff...for glueing bitz of plasticcard together...didn´t hold together that well...can be pulled off...does the testors glue rather melt of just glue in the sense of superglue sticks togeter and can be snapped off?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 13:58:12


Post by: dsteingass


the trick is to cover all the joining surfaces, any plastic glue will actually melt the two plastic surfaces together. Use enough glue and then clean off what excess spooges out, or make a bead of it like a weld. It will snap off until it cures properly, but it is workable and tight within a few minutes, so you can move on at a normal pace.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 14:03:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well this is food for thought... must fly now...hope the postman soon brings my stuff around^^ then all hell can break loos white plastic style^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 14:27:58


Post by: mxwllmdr


Testers tube glue is why I can go as fast as I do. And, Dave, my last Mars Pattern Warhound had more of my blood on it that glue.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 16:05:51


Post by: HAZZER


Nice bone guy!Yes deffently looks like that indy dude!Love it!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 16:32:33


Post by: Baiyuan


What's special about testors? Is it in fact quicker than other plastic cement?

Like ds said, all plastic glues have to be used in the same way:
Apply neither too little nor too much glue to both parts and let it start softening the surface for a moment before pressing them together.
Some types of plastic card have a finish/recipe that is a little more resilient to the solvent, in which case you should either slightly sand off the surfaces or let the glue work it a little longer before putting it together.
Now give it a couple of minutes to settle and your good to go.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 17:16:45


Post by: mxwllmdr


I think that the Citadel is too thin and slow, even the thin glue is too thin. The testors tube glue meets the "stays where I put it" test and the "No cramps in the fingers holding it til it's done" test. Also, when done curing, any missed drops, smears, bits that ooze out or F'ups are, IMO, easier to file/sand off. So, when I put on a rivet, the glue oozes out, I can wait for it to cure before taking a fine file and cleaning up around it. I try not to get too much glue on the parts and fail miserably so anything that makes it easeir to clean up is fine by me.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 20:25:49


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah what Baiyuan said, or use CLAMPS.
I agree, when GW first released their plastic glue, it kicked ass, except it was too expensive, and the bottles seemed to be only half full. And like all things that GW has ever done well, they then changed the formula for no apparent reason and ruined it, it became thin and just fell apart. Now it is expensive and worthless all in one.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 22:28:39


Post by: Viktor von Domm


at baiyuan...the sanding before gluing was my last resort for the now failed first test with the revell glue...i just pulled the two halves apart of my test... no melting took place there... so sanding it will be...i gotta crack this nut...i just gotta^^

and tho i would like to join in the moodyness about our loved/hated most company...this thread is way better than any nerdragethread so i think we better move on...

at dave... any new weaponry that have jumped out of yer head recently? cold has you still in its icy wrist? is your lady pampering you enough? after all there will be one heck of a backlog of to do thingies when you are cured...LOL...i said cured to the topmost gluer...lol^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 22:35:35


Post by: dsteingass


Naa, apparently I've been running a fever all day, my head has been foggy, medicine made me waste most of the day sleeping it off. I'm just sort of spaced out looking at things atm. I woke up earlier, and had such a vivid dream: that I had bought a very small airplane about 6 years ago, and parked it in a barn. When I woke up, it took me awhile to realize that it never really happened, and I really hadn't just forgotten about owning an airplane. WTF?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 22:39:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ohoh... i wouldn´t even want to speculate on that weird and twisted dream to onterpret it´s meaning... as storag... he is the resident psycho doc here...

well...when you do need sleep, then you sleep...no point in going against ones body...

also...when i am feverish...i tend to have either dreams about thick and suddenly thin figures or about falling off things...so i guess it all goes with the illness...^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 22:43:09


Post by: RSJake


Looks like I've been away for too long! I love the shotgun! Amazing! You should have it cast in resin and sell it!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 22:43:41


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Ugggh, the thick thin fingers thing is horrid. I get hallucinations where i think every little crease in the pillow is razor sharp and im just lying on it... Not cool :/

Hope you get better soon dstein!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 22:47:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


I get hallucinations where i think every little crease in the pillow is razor sharp and im just lying on it... Not cool :/


now that is totally understandable too...ouch...and that is only saying half of it...who had that dream License again?...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 22:49:40


Post by: dsteingass


I think the dream about buying the airplane, flying it, and parking it in a barn was a dream I had years ago when I was sick, but then forgot about. Then today's dream about it completed some strange circuit in my brain somewhere.

Thanks Jake, the more I look at it, the more I think the same. I'd need to do a cleaner job though, make a few more prototypes first. They are really easy to build.


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Basically, I dreamed a sequel to a dream I forgot I had.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 22:59:13


Post by: lone dirty dog


Dam just got home from work quick conversation with the misses (that was interesting but I love her) First of hope you feel better mate nothing like a stinker of a cold as for the dream might be a bad mix of the medication and sniffing that dam glue lol.

Now I have found the revell glue (blue) to work perfectly fine on plasticard with no real issues may be some holding time or clamping can be needed but on the hold I found it to work quite effectively.

I think the mane issue is administering the right quantity required for the job and in the correct way.

Dreams have no sense to them I find random with no purpose who ever can decipher them is more messed up than the dreams themselves ……...





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 23:17:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Dreams have no sense to them I find random with no purpose who ever can decipher them is more messed up than the dreams themselves ……...


like freud said once...sometimes a cigar ius just a cigar...

well


just got home from work quick conversation with the misses (that was interesting but I love her)
that made me lol...seems like you are together for a loooong time...^^

well i will certainly experiment some more with the revell glue...all because... it is the one i have at hand atm... so it has to be^^

i didn´t clamp the stuff or sand before and i aplied the glue one side... so this all might be a bunch of mistakes here... next installment will be to overcome these then...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 23:19:43


Post by: dsteingass


no, you shouldn't need to sand bare plastic, at least not the stuff I sent you. Maybe the translucent stuff (rectangle tube=vickers MG body- hint, hint) a sanding would scuff it to give the glue more purchase, but I never do that. You would think that Revell would sell a glue that actually works on their stuff eh?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 23:24:13


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well that is the problem here.... with grey plastic as in GW or the revell stuff no probs...whereas with white plastic...sucker...

but i like experimenting... and the plasticcard doesnt shed tears no matter how badly i treat it...see...instant win^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 23:27:15


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, but they are essentially the same thing, polystyrene right? It shouldn't matter.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 23:30:18


Post by: Viktor von Domm


from what i have understood of a guy from the hardware store... polystyrene is one thing up front first... poly...you never know what kind of mixture you might have in your paws... so i think i will have to do a second round with just your stuff to erase all doubts... dunno where i got my own batch... i got it before dakka days... so... any bets are off...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 23:32:50


Post by: dsteingass


Maybe it has oil or some residue from making it, try washing it with tepid water and dish soap?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 23:39:12


Post by: lone dirty dog


It has been a longggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg time all ready or at least it seams so but no she is a keeper plus she takes me to forge world open day in march for my birthday and buys me stuff and even stands in the cue for 2 hours while I have a look around so she is a gooden really plus she let me have the spare room for my model room all mine.

I have really no complaints on the Revell glue I swear by it for sticking plasticard I think you may need to hold it for a while but thats all, I did have some plasticard once that seemed rather over shiny and was a real pig to stick so I had to sand the surface just to get it to stick but that was the only one I had that problem with.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/03 23:44:14


Post by: Viktor von Domm


dsteingass wrote:Maybe it has oil or some residue from making it, try washing it with tepid water and dish soap?



that might be a good idea to do too...



at LDD
sounds definatly like a keeper to me^^

and i will definatly keep you informed to my PC endeavors...this has to be researched...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 00:00:57


Post by: lone dirty dog


Hope it works out for you and good luck


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 00:03:01


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thanks mate!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 00:38:14


Post by: lone dirty dog


@ dsteingass Do you get your plasticard really cheap ? it's just you sent some to Viktor I would have thought that would have been costly with shipping and weight costs ? If you don't mind me asking do you know any good suppliers of embossed plasticard its just a bugger to find over here.

I keep wanting to go to the states just to go to WalMart I know it sad but every time you see conversions or scratch builds and you ask where did you get that from it's always WalMart and it was dead cheap and I bought 8 or 10 of them.

You do have some handy stores over there for this kind of hobby we have Asda now owned by WalMart but we get nothing like your stores and the price is no where near the same.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 00:48:50


Post by: dsteingass


Plain Sheet Plasticard, I get in bulk from www.iplasticsupply.com in California. A far as the embossed kind, no we are stuck gettign that from either Evergreen or Plastruct, and never cheaply. Wal Mart is ok, but it's not really the hobby mecca you might be thinking, for sale signs are the only plasticard to be found there, and really not too cheaply.

Naa, that stuff all fit into an envelope and shipped to him pretty cheaply.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 00:49:27


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well i guess the carepackage was just a freindly gesture... i wouldn´t want to estimate the postage fee... i sent due to a trade some stuff to a friend over to the US and it was quite expensive...then again i sent some heads to shaso as a friendly gesture too... i guess what goes around comes around...

embossed card must be available somehwre near you... i know i got a sheat of that stuff as a babysitting payment... did babysitting for a friend and she gave it to me when we both went some...wait for it...shopping in a craftshop...they had lots of other stuff there too... i guess it just comes down to better know your neighberhood/city...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 00:55:05


Post by: dsteingass


I believe 100% in hobby Karma!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 01:04:19


Post by: lone dirty dog


Thanks guys

@dsteingass WalMart was the toys not the plasticard people always converting Ork stuff and every time it always comes back to the I got them from WalMart for a few dollars or a dollar, It just seems to be a point of finding cool stuff to use at good prices. Thanks for the info will give them a look although plain I can get and the price is not to bad either the embossed is a pain in the arse to find and when you do it costs an arm and a leg.

@Viktor von Domm I want embossed plasticard the stuff that looks like industrial flooring or corrugated sheeting I have found some here and their but stock wise it is always lacking or way over priced (talking £6-£7 pound a sheet A4 size ) The last best deal I got was from a seller on ebay in the US hence why I asked dsteingass (I know the US is a big place but you might have known somewhere) I still got screwed by custom charges and postal costs but it still worked out cheaper than getting it from the UK.

I wish there was a thread with companies names and contact info for supplies so we can view it and go thats where I can get that from.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 01:05:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yeppers!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 01:06:51


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


Back to Gaming Karma for a moment (man this thread changes fast). RSJake sent me the turret and sponsons for his Predator that he turned into a Rhino, which was very cool. Then I read a thread from a guy in the Dakka Swap Shop that lost his CSM army in a house fire and was looking to buy some miniatures. I'm sending him an old Chaos Sorcerer that I'll never get around to painting. No charge or trade, I'm just doing it.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 01:09:31


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that is a cool thing of you skalk! maybe more of dakka could be swinging to such an action?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 01:12:18


Post by: lone dirty dog


Hobby Karma like that %100 why not help out some one I am sure they will return the favour when you need it I have done it a few times myself and had the favour returned to me with some torso's a member on Warseer had produced for a private order.

I asked if there was any chance of getting one for a project I was working on so I could try and cast a couple more up for a scene I was building if he did not mind he said no problems and sent me his last five torsos, when I asked how much he wanted for them he said nothing just pay the postage which I was extremely happy with I did keep offering to pay for them but he would not take any money for them.

I have to say I have had the pleasure of meeting and dealing with some of the nicest people through this hobby and continue to do so …. except you lot lol come on it was getting a bit soppy …...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 01:18:35


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


Ok, ok... truth time- I sent it to him to get rid of it. It looked wayyyy too much like a Sorcerer of Tzeentch.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 01:25:09


Post by: lone dirty dog


Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Ok, ok... truth time- I sent it to him to get rid of it. It looked wayyyy too much like a Sorcerer of Tzeentch.


I like it heart felt sacrifice more like clearing space on the shelve, no but it is cool of you to donate it must be a real shame to lose anything in a fire but I would rather lose my miniatures than a love one well some of them any way ...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 05:29:01


Post by: mxwllmdr


I love it that this thread derails so much, it keeps everyone elses on track better.

I get every single post to all my subbed threads as an email on my blackberry. My wife thinks you are all mad.

She does'nt realize I am one of you......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 05:42:35


Post by: Rawson


mxwllmdr wrote:I love it that this thread derails so much, it keeps everyone elses on track better.

Made me lol a little bit


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 09:17:32


Post by: lone dirty dog


Mad who is mad , surely if we are all mad then that would mean we are the sane ones as the ones who are sane would differ from the rest of us therefore they are not of the norm which in this case is mad therefor they are different and so mad ….I think

As for derailing the tracks ran out along time ago half the time I cant even remember what thread I am looking at till I look up and read the topic heading I blame Viktor its all his fault …...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 10:54:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


I blame Viktor its all his fault …...
...well balme is such an overrated form of fame... i prefer to be rather looked at as nefarious and notorious schemer...

beside...mad...




She does'nt realize I am one of you......


that is so hilarious...
and who would want to have all their subbed threads as an email on their blackberry...that would cost me even more to wade through all my subed threads...because i would comment even more then...and i have millions of threads subbed...how do you think i can manage so much stalking to so many of yers?^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 13:50:04


Post by: lone dirty dog


Sorry to blame you was wrong but love the video lol you cant beat monty python


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 14:01:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


aye! that is true! maaaaaaaaaad!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 14:11:47


Post by: dsteingass


OOOh it is the lovely BOGO SALE time at Micro-Mark!

If you want my brass bar clamps NOW is the time to get them
http://www.micromark.com/Solid-Brass-Miniature-Bar-Clamps-3-3and4-Inches-Long-Set-of-2,7066.html?ns_md=Email&ns_sc=Marketing&ns_cn=12E001&ns_pc=12E001&utm_source=Marketing&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=12E001
buy one set of 2, get one set of two free.
(you may need to sign up for their email newsletter to get the pricing.
I love tool sales!



I cannot stress how good these brass bar clamps are


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 14:27:34


Post by: lone dirty dog


Dam thats some useful stuff there, are there goes my budget again thanks for the link like that thin beam square could come in handy will definitely take a look and do they deliver to the Uk ?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 14:29:51


Post by: dsteingass


I don't know about UK, but I am now ordering 2 of the squares, so if they don't ship to UK, lmk


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 16:07:23


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:I don't know about UK, but I am now ordering 2 of the squares, so if they don't ship to UK, lmk


Thanks very much just about to check them out now fingers crossed…..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 16:11:36


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah, may have to get a thin beam square, myself.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 16:21:10


Post by: RSJake


I'm glad Skalk was able to pay it forward! Awesome! Skalk could you post a link to that thread? I might have some stuff to send too.

And Dave. Thanks a lot for posting that freaking sale! I was wanting to get some more Rhinos....but it looks like I need some of the things in that sale!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 16:22:04


Post by: dsteingass


Rhinos can wait


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 16:23:11


Post by: lone dirty dog


From what i can tell they will ship to the UK as long as it is not chemical based (which is pretty standard ) so it looks a gooden I was there browsing for 10 mins or so and spent a few hundred quid in my head of course but there is some great stuff.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 16:27:42


Post by: dsteingass


I should get some sort of a kickback for this


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 16:35:21


Post by: lone dirty dog


Commission based at least


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 16:41:56


Post by: dsteingass


I'd settle for store credit


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 18:31:46


Post by: lone dirty dog


When I make an order I will drop your name


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 18:52:16


Post by: dsteingass


The BOGO sale is this week only, don't delay!
Get not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 Solid Brass Bar Clamps
for the low, low price of $16.65+ Shipping.

As seen on DakkaDakka!



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Order NOW at www.micromark.com
(there, think that'll work? )


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 19:47:25


Post by: lone dirty dog


Well I will give you 10 out of 10 for persistence but it depends if any body from there is a dakka fan


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 20:07:42


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah yeah

I think I'll cal lthe Shammy done now, every time I try to improve something, I think I make it worse. So for now..




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And following Vik's trend (as usual) I present to you the current state of madness in my Skonkwerks, as I scramble to finish the ratskins.



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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 23:16:16


Post by: Viktor von Domm


argh.... deedeeeddeeddee...*trying to get the adverts out of my system...in vain so far...*

that shipping would kill me atm... but i can see how versatile these would be...we definatly have to see about lowering the seelevel... then shipping will get cheaper as they can transport by truck or train^^

as for the mancave... wow...what a range of stuff fromevery corner of what men want...^^
And following Vik's trend (as usual)
harharharrrr ^^

and
The BOGO sale is this week only, don't delay!
Get not 1, not 2, not 3, but 4 Solid Brass Bar Clamps
for the low, low price of $16.65+ Shipping.

As seen on DakkaDakka!

Order NOW at www.micromark.com

reminds me of:



and now your shamy has a certain ring of Ash too... and he does look very cool! which is just a comment about him in a nutshell...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/04 23:46:27


Post by: Rogue Wolves


ooooooooo im liking this ratskin!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 00:44:30


Post by: dsteingass


And finally, The Chief




And now onto basing.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 01:37:25


Post by: Baiyuan


Despite registering and subscribing I can't find those special offers at micro-mark. Did you get them via mail or are they somewhere on the page?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 01:56:43


Post by: dsteingass


Yep it is an email sale, click the lfirst link I posted, you have to put in QTY: 2- the second one shows up at $0.00




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 02:03:38


Post by: homzigh9


Nice work love the battle worn industrial look and the minis are sweet kind of reminded me of charlies angels from back in the day. Don't now if that's just me or if there meant too, either way very stylish.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 03:38:49


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Man! I really appreciate the compliment! I had intended them to have a "style" but I wasn't sure exactly what, but I'll be happy with the Angels man


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 04:13:05


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


@ RSJake and anyone else interested- http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/420755.page

I've been PM'ing w/ him and he seems pretty cool. I have his mailing address if anyone wants to be an anonymous donor. PM me.

@ dstein- Dude that is WICKED awesome and I am SO doing that tomorrow after I get paid! And I'll be sure to drop your name!

Your Necromunda miniatures look very good. And your workspace is insane.

*edited for mailing address stuff*



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 04:57:00


Post by: dsteingass


Mauser-Pattern Laspistol?


no?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 05:01:50


Post by: Skalk Bloodaxe


YES!

Man that is awesome, and it's staggering to think how very tiny those bits really are.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 07:42:40


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Guys ar elooking good, the pistol as well. The grip might be a bit thick though, try scrounging a few pistol grips from an IG player near you. Trust me, he'll have plenty


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 08:16:08


Post by: Rawson


CommissarKhaine wrote: the pistol as well. The grip might be a bit thick though, try scrounging a few pistol grips from an IG player near you. Trust me, he'll have plenty

I concur, you could easily pilfer the entire hand/grip area. I do want to give some props on the first attempt of a rounded grip. That's thinkin outside the box!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 09:37:38


Post by: HAZZER


LOL notice how even the greatest of blogs will turn to advertisment!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 10:36:30


Post by: lone dirty dog


Dam you have been busy you must nearly have the gang complete, like the earthy tone you have used for these it has turned out well you really are putting me to shame I should crack on with some building and painting really should no really should……… really ………..should …….start …….


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As for the deals if you check the catalogue in the listings next to the items that are specials it saids Promo that was the only way I could tell


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Just looking at your Mauser-Pattern Laspistol screams star wars, IMO I would cut the bottom of the handle notch of round of the second section and at the back just slice and sand so there is more of grip to the handle then it will be spot on.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 11:43:43


Post by: dsteingass


How much "near me" do I have to be?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 12:22:59


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Lol totally forgot abut your other blog... Then you know where to get'em!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 12:27:35


Post by: mxwllmdr


Looking good, Dave. Loving that Shammy. And what, specifically, are you thinking of giving the Mauser to? It's awesome, dude. Great job.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 13:15:59


Post by: dsteingass


I have no plans on the Mauser, It is just for fun, testing a new design. Yes, it looks like Star Wars for a reason, because Lucas based Han Solo's blaster off of a Mauser in the first place

“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.”


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 13:34:43


Post by: Tibbsy


Well I'm officially in love with that Las-Mauser....

Great stuff dstein! Love the ratskins, I may have to steal some ideas from them....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 13:48:49


Post by: Viktor von Domm


funny that you should actually make a mauser after i just saw specially that pic of yours you posted off of another blog...lol...

and who in his right nerdy mind didn´t knew that han´s blasdter was based on the broomhandle???

your version is instantly recognizable, but i have to fall in with the others, while the look of the handle is as classy as one might get... but i think with this handle you are more in sclae with a ogryn commissar^^ than yon typical IG footslogger sarge^^

to get the rihjt feel to the minibit i think a SM handle wourl be apropriate too... tho we do have to admit...that is a bit cheating, eh? grey is grey and wont get white^^, had that argument with myself earlier today too and i decided all white^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 15:18:01


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah yeah, it was just a prototype/idea. I want to lengthen the barrel and work the iron sights out better still, and make the body even more recognizable. Keep an eye out for The MK2 Mauser-Pattern Laspistol tonight.

There is no rule that says you can't use bitz too, to mount the pistol in a hand, you almost have to, unless you are good at making GS fingers and hands.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 16:14:42


Post by: HAZZER


Oooh nice!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 17:34:05


Post by: RSJake


dsteingass wrote:, unless you are good at making GS fingers and hands.

Good? not yet, but I'm working on it!

Sorry...shameless plug!

Love the gangers! They turned out great!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 21:23:42


Post by: dsteingass


I was actually thinking of your talent when I wrote that dood!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 21:36:22


Post by: RSJake


LOL

Maybe with the next few projects I have going on I'll get that down to an art. Maybe I could have Wehrkind make some casts of just the hands? Or I could just make hands gripping plain handles too! Brilliant!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/05 23:38:59


Post by: lone dirty dog


Yes yes I know it was based on the Mauser who doesn't and if I am not mistaken several others are based on ww2 weapons like the E-11 blaster carbine based on Sterling submachine gun the DLT-19 based MG-34 and so on the list is endless.


Now back to topic I dont even get around to finishing the work I want to do never mind just doing test designing bloody hell how much spare time do you have you lucky git .


Do we get the group shot of the gangers together then,


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I want to have ago at building these based on the Lee-enfield

based on the lewis witch in its original form would make a great 40k weapon


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Sorry to steal you thread but just came across these over on Maxmini thought you guys might be interested not released as of yet but soon I cant wait LOVELY


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 00:34:23


Post by: dsteingass


HAHA, Awesome Stuff!

I present to you, the Mk 2.




I had to go back to work today, but I was researching Mausers all day, and cranked this out once I got home.

I need help please
Hammer too big? need shortened?
should I attempt to add iron sights or leave as is?
Should I add buttons/lascharge readout?


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@Jake- Can you sculpt hands gripping the broomhandle?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 01:40:43


Post by: Baiyuan


You know me, the more details the better. So go for it, readout, iron sights, slightly smaller hammer, all the works.
By the way you owe me 150$, buddy! Well, in a way at least, it's your fault I spent that much money on tools after all. Why am I so weak?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 01:42:35


Post by: dsteingass


But you will love, and cherish, and use your tools to build wonders


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The Ratskins are wasting time drying the black on their bases, unfortunately. Tomorrow, they will get finished.



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I like this


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Filed some shape into the magazine

It needed it


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 06:42:37


Post by: mxwllmdr


I absolutely love it, Dave. Hella fine small work there, buddy.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 07:01:14


Post by: Rawson


dsteingass wrote:





DST! You have outdone yourself! Excellent work, my friend!

I also like the detail that you added with the sights and readout.

Some super nitpicky CC: (i.e. feel free to ignore )
I'd like to see the typical las-weapon barrel underscore, though that would be a fiddly bit to work on.
I think you've lost a little bit of the mauser feel with this last prototype. I think it's the proportions of the magazine and the back of the pistol. Lose 25% of your magazine width and a hair off the back.

Keep it up!
Rawson


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 07:04:24


Post by: JB




Tools? Did someone say tools?

Dammit, now I'll have to read this whole blog to find the context...and the tools.

Looks like a great read though...



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 10:10:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


praise the thee lord and pass the ammunition!!!!

lovley stuff... having had yesterday nothing but strife with my computer, still not really ticking like it used to be...tho i stayed a bit after the initial reustration off the damned thing... now seeing the development of the blaster! bloody brilliant work mate! every pic there was something for me to be picky about... seeing now the final version! what a grace!

i hpoe you feel mighty proud about the amount of work you did there...same goes for the cool looking ratskins...looks like only slight deatils are needed on the base and hardcoating is the last step...

the carving of the broomhandle is very good... we all have to remeber what scale this actually is... scandalous small! mate i dunno where your voyage may send you but that is definatly a great one... hope you enjoyed that built!

cheers, vik


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 11:13:35


Post by: lone dirty dog


Not much to say after all that praise but its bloody awful…………….. Haaaaaaaaa only kidding that is some small tinkering you have taken up there I like the effort you have put into and did not shy away from adding more.

Like mentioned when you look at the scale you are working with it's amazing how much detail you have put into it especially only using white plastic , I would have had to turn to GS would not have attempted to use white plastic…….

Group shot looks great nice uniformed look for a rabble but works what kind of look are you doing on the bases ?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 14:07:35


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks everybody!
@Rawson- I think you are crazy bro, if I added the longer flash cowling with the bottom slit (easier to make than you might think- cut partially through a tube before slicing it at an angle then slipping it onto the barrel) like you mentioned, it would lose the simplistic Mauser barrel look (I tried it before settling on this one). I think the iron sight on the cowling is a bit too much IMO, but it is necessary if I am to have the iron sights. I'm not seeing what you mean about the magazine tho.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 14:27:25


Post by: Rawson


dsteingass wrote:Thanks everybody!
@Rawson- I think you are crazy bro

You wouldn'd be the first
dsteingass wrote:Thanks everybody!
if I added the longer flash cowling with the bottom slit (easier to make than you might think- cut partially through a tube before slicing it at an angle then slipping it onto the barrel) like you mentioned, it would lose the simplistic Mauser barrel look (I tried it before settling on this one). I think the iron sight on the cowling is a bit too much IMO, but it is necessary if I am to have the iron sights.

Yeah, I could see that. I should have known you'd already thought of and moved on from any of my ideas
dsteingass wrote:I'm not seeing what you mean about the magazine tho.

Again, so nitpicky I (almost) feel bad saying it, but here's what I mean

Just that the proportions would be closer to the original Mauser if you shaved a bit off the front. Probably a whopping .01mm or something


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 14:33:20


Post by: dsteingass


But..It fits a standard lasrifle power cell! Not 7.62mm rounds

Actually, I will probably file that down some more, but not all the way down to your lines.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 14:36:52


Post by: theunicorn


I love the work on the guns, when/if you want to make them in resin let me know.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 14:44:21


Post by: dsteingass


Do you think there is a market?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 14:53:58


Post by: Rawson


dsteingass wrote:But..It fits a standard lasrifle power cell! Not 7.62mm rounds

Actually, I will probably file that down some more, but not all the way down to your lines.

Of course! The standard power cell! My apologies, sir!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 16:38:13


Post by: RSJake


Dave, I would be honored to make a hand for that! Although if you want them sculpted on before or after making resin copies that is your call. I would do it after, so you have some with and some without. Your call though.

My only critique would be the thickness of the trigger guard. but I know how small this is. Very difficult to work with!

Great job! I say make more pistols! Different ones! Go nuts!


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 17:00:46


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, the trigger guard was truly a bitch, but that is what makes the GW plastic weapons so cool, a quick 90 degree snip and they fit on any hand. As long as the trigger finger was in a round trigger guard, I don't think it would matter much.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 17:05:04


Post by: Farty Wiffmas


The pistol is very cool! If you were considering sculpting the hand yourself check out this guide by Scibor:
http://sciborminiatures.com/en_,sculpting.php?id=508


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 17:29:33


Post by: RSJake


Dave, I'll work on a plain hand for a pistol grip. Two actually, one for each side. And see what you think.

Farty - Great tutorial thanks for sharing! That's pretty much what I do, it's just that they're so small, it's difficult to get the proper shape.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/06 18:53:40


Post by: HAZZER


Love the las-poistle man!Looks good rather effective really too, I like the star wars theme like to it imo it looks like han solo's postile.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 00:42:39


Post by: dsteingass


The Ratskin Gang is complete!
-The Juves-







-The Gangers-







-Shaman/Wyrd Beastmaster-



-Shaman-



-Chief-



-The Ratskin Gang-



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 08:22:13


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Nice; and a lot quicker then I paint. Like the bases, really ties them into Necromunda.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 08:44:05


Post by: Hyenajoe


Your gang looks good!

I've always liked the ratskins, they're among the most creative models of this period (and the ethnic features are really well sculpted)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 09:51:57


Post by: Baiyuan


Well, that was quick! I guess by the end of the month you'll have painted every Necromunda gang available.
Anyway, you did a good job. The gang has a coherent look, you refrained from using any flashy colors and a limited pallette is one thing I always dig. There are some spots where you could have done better, like the eyes, but overall it is a very nice looking gang, kudos!

About whether or not there is a market for custom made guns in 28mm: Talk to Zinge from Zinge Industries, he's on this forum and I remember a while ago he was looking for convincing weapon designs, because he had run out of ideas. Maybe if you two worked together, you could make your designs available to the community without having to bother with production/distribution. Just an idea.


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Spoiler:


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 13:07:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that second juve has a real cute face! he is my favorite one... with that one everything is just plain perfect!

the gang on the whole look really stunning and now they need just the right dio for the storage^^ some movement try that looks fitting and cool...

and i think baiyuan has a point there... might be a bit uneasy to give your ideas away but that sure would be an option...



at jake... like the idea for two different hands... from time to time one like to have either of both... or both for dualwielding chars...

at dave again...
have to ask, did you make those spent shells on the ground for the first shamy all by yourself?? how cool is that^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 15:18:31


Post by: dsteingass


OK, make up my mind please, you either like the eyes or you don't!! geez, what a tough crowd


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 16:26:04


Post by: lone dirty dog


Dave if your happy with them then we are happy with them thats what matters ……overall I think you did a good job and in the time limit well done.

As for the Zinge idea I have dealt with him a few times and he does take peoples input quite well, he also has produced a Solo blaster using CAD which is a nice model but my favourite is his flamer pistols…..




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Those west wind mini's look pretty good I have to say nice find Baiyuan .


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 16:55:50


Post by: dsteingass


I just ordered some of Zinge's wheels last week, awaiting them patiently. I am happy with the Ratskins, that was just a jab at Baiyuan in fun, I appreciate being pushed just past my comfort point, and Baiyuan is really goood at that

Now onto other things.

This morning, I have made my new Chopper from Micro Mark into an efficient rivet cutting jig, capable of producing Consistant sized Rivets!



Give or take a few larger ones The Chopper arm mechanism has some play, so it can be swiveled right and left some- I can tighten or loosen that play how I want.


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It is much easier to do the bases first
-- but it can be done backwards, as I have shown you with the Ratskins




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Thanks Baiyuan!- is this "payback" for my making you blow your budget @ Micro Mark?
You KNOW my Catachans NEED more diversification, as their regiment is transported from world to world, they lose numbers, and begin to take on remnants of Jungle Fighter regiments from wherever they are


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 21:20:45


Post by: Baiyuan


What? I pushed you? I'd never do that... Well at least I don't remember doing so, seriously.
On the other hand being pushy is an occupational hazard for teachers and smart asses and I'm both unfortunately. So if I have somehow contributed to you suddenly having a well painted gang of slumdog killionaires, I'm alright with that.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 21:25:29


Post by: dsteingass


No worries my friend! All in good ways


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 21:32:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think these westwind minis would be a good way to make even catachans have some hard veteran scouts at their side...

the rivet slicer looks really cool...i think i have to try to scratchbuild these aperature... for now my feeble attempts at making rivets out of rods were rather futile...

and the latest shots of your ratskins have totally convinced me of your eyepainting... the second juve and the sawed off shotgun shammy are by far the best...

er...

are those new bases kind of a way to say you have a new gang in the making???


besides...if we with our weapon making attempts don´t aim for global domination through 28mm scale guns...then i think i would be more than happy to make this small arangement inbetween our small group of guys here...
...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 21:49:11


Post by: neil101


great looking bases Dst , rather jealous of your cutting machine.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 22:37:01


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks!
@ Neil- This is another Micro Mark e-mail only sale thing, everyone should sign up for the email newsletter to catch these deals, the chopper was only $20!


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@Vik- when Slicing rivets with a knife, use this same chopping concept, tip of the knife anchored into your cutting mat, then use this same angled "chop" action, pushing the stock from left to right, just like chopping carrots or celery!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 22:45:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i tried but it didn´t happen as planned... i bet this takes some getting used to... i use everything from xacto knifes to even those carpet knifes...yet clean cutting is what happens to others


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 23:08:22


Post by: dsteingass


A wise man once spoke to me of achieving the spiritual state known as "Rivet Zen", he should take his own advice.


And yes, the bases mean, another gang
But who? My new Orlocks, and old Escher's arrived in the mail today, plus I have some Van Saar as well.
No, I think these belong to the


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 23:24:44


Post by: Viktor von Domm


since you opted for muted colors with your ratskins...what is meant to go for the delaques? how about some real poping purple to red coats? like some nice pimp coats^^

as for rivet- zen... that was rather for me always to the apling side of rivet work... the production of them i think i ceated you all rodusers for... a holepunch is clearly a whole differnt line of work...way easier than rodwork..

have you filled the gaps in the bases with glue and sand? nice idea! i was a sec worried there you might leave those gaps gaping still^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 23:29:42


Post by: dsteingass


They all still have their runner under at least one foot (usually the one not standing on treadplate) and then gravel and super glue yup
I haven't decided on color yet, but they are white now


Purple no, since my Pimp from the experimental "Girls of Old Town" gang, with the pimp- I haven't finishedd painting him, but he has a purple pimp coat and hat with feather.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/07 23:41:49


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thats why i tried to refer to him^^

in a way delaques have something of a peeping tom feel to them for my taste^^

but also they would look good with camelhair coats or the usual black leather... but that is a bit overdone...

maybe, because we are in a wee starwars feel atm...how about han solos coat from return of the jedi´s?:



something unusual for that bunch...also would give you a real good oportunity to send that blaster into action!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 00:02:46


Post by: dsteingass


That's cool, but they are supposed to be Hive-Mafia types, in my mind's eye. Baiyuan said he'd disown me if I painted them wearing light brown yuppie coats

I am thinking either shiny brown heroin-dealer leather or black..I dunno.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 00:05:30


Post by: Viktor von Domm


if black do them in shiny gestapo black... you know that glossy black..

or you could try to sculpt them some hats...now that is an idea... mafia heads and then these bald heads are gone... or you could do the hairdo thing for them...any hairdo would do^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 00:07:51


Post by: dsteingass


No, no hats or hair dood This is all about preserving the classic Necro Look remember.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 00:21:15


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmm.... *scowls*


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 00:23:26


Post by: dsteingass


But what about these new-fangled Orlocks?

They are different, no loincloths thankfully, they could EASILY be painted and absorbed into my Catachan army
I am rather impressed by the amount of weaponry included in the box though. GW wasn't skimping this time around.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 01:13:12


Post by: Viktor von Domm


those weapons really look sweet...and i second that thought, olrocks are perfect counts as catachans... even the older minis, like the outlaw soldiers from apocalypse now...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 07:46:27


Post by: Rogue Wolves


hmm i can think of one thing skillfull enough to stop your 'munda gang.... a gang of giant cat people!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 08:06:53


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Orlocks and Catachans have always been pretty interchangeable. As for the Delaque: don't follow the GW scheme and they'll be cool


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 10:28:28


Post by: lone dirty dog


@ dsteingass You must have an endless supply of cash how do you afford all these necromunda models Do you have any of the Ash Waste minis …….,……. I do I love em but to dam scared to paint them make sense out of that

I think Black but be careful with the shiny black ,I use matt black with a mix of pearl paint translucent not white pearl (I used a cheap craft acrylic paint thinned ) It worked well gave it that shine but more of a reflective shine than gloss ……. if hat makes sense

No Hair no hats they look wrong Sorry Vik there Gangers not bankers




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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 13:20:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hah...tried the holepunch again with your styrene...and it works like a charm...back in business with making rivets again^^

dunno... why not make nasty businessmen out of those delaques? soemthing new, something borrowed and something blue^^

at RW...giant cat people???wtf...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 14:06:03


Post by: lone dirty dog


Dont you think we have enough nasty bankers ruining the world without adding them to our hobby


Giant cat people, Thunder Cats you must have heard of them


And who is getting married


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 14:57:50


Post by: dsteingass


1. I wish I had endless cash, no, i have been collecting these Gangs for years from trades, ebay, shows, conventions, etc. except the new Orlocks, I just ordered them from GW Specialist Games site. . The Ratskins were found secondhand somewhere, and I had to strip paint and corrosion from them, then they were disinfected, once the funk did not regrow on them, I primed them and put them back into storage for several years. Besides, nobody paints all of their miniatures as soon as they get them anyways!



2. I'm not sure what you mean about the Chopper LDD, it has 2 screws for changing/tightening the blade (you have to change the standard no.9 blade often, like any knife). It has a tightening screw and nut too, so there should be no movement in the arm, unless you want movement.

3. This is what everyone gets in the set of new Orlocks, but for the older boxed sets, you get 8 randoms in a box, but always 1 leader, 1 heavy, etc.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 15:25:16


Post by: lone dirty dog




This what I meant by chopper although its chopper 2
Its not that the blade is blunt it just seems to bend when cutting

If you are ever looking for any of the old Catachan metal figures let me know i have loads just noticed some in your box


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 15:28:28


Post by: dsteingass


See, that is much better built than mine, you have a proper cutting mat, but still, you can't change the blade??
How does a solid steel razor blade bend? Are you sure your arm just doesnt need tightened?

I am ALWAYS looking for metal Catachans, can never get enough! See you have to be willing to acquire minis when you find them, makes digging through the "bins" at GenCon and similar shows the best part IMHO.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 15:33:17


Post by: lone dirty dog


No, you can change the blade " when I get some " but even when it was new it did the same

Well if you got a picture of your needs send it this way I am sure I could sort you out with a few


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 15:42:16


Post by: dsteingass


Can you please show me a picture of your Chopper from the left side? And the bottom?

Mine has two screws on the bottom that attach the hinge for the arm, then there is an adjusting screw/nut on the hinge of the arm. If you have lateral play in the arm, then something needs tightened, it HAS to be the case. If they built that thing unadjustable, I would be VERY surprised, Model Railroaders don't generally tolerate that sort of proprietary tool.

As for Catachans, I need any mini with a chainsword or Bolt Pistol or any Officer.



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MOAR bases


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 16:16:49


Post by: lone dirty dog


The arm is fixed the plates adjust the angle of whatever you are cutting so thats why it seems a bit daft to me yours is better

Nice pretty more toys

Will have a dig through my box later and send some pictures



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 16:22:37


Post by: dsteingass


Same here, my arm only cuts at the 90 degree position, it doesn't swivel if that is what you mean. I REALLY think you should check it out from all angles man, look for some adjustment screws or something. I just can't believe they aren't there. That is the NAME BRAND Chopper 2, mine is the Micro Mark knock-off. Micro Mark used to sell the name brand, then they switched to this model. You have the premium model there.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 16:50:46


Post by: lone dirty dog


This is a few more pictures to show you the lay out slightly different to yours



Hope that helps





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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 18:09:18


Post by: dsteingass


HAHAHA! I am just a messenger bro!

Wow, that seems like it is an overly-complicated design! I really can't see any type of adjustment at all! Anything on the bottom? Amazing! I'm glad I didnt buy the name brand now.

However, I do like how yours has the measurements etched into the fence and then inked bright yellow. I had to buy the optional stick-on ruler, but I have to custom cut it to fit, and I just don't like it so haven't put it on.

Fresh Rivets cut Daily!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 18:18:07


Post by: weetyskemian44


Never before seen the new orlocks! But I have been known for living in the past - will be intrigued to see them painted.

I bought a new-school goliath ganger the other day - he came with like 6 possible weapons - they are def not skimping on the guns - which is handy for all those 2nd hand armless minis one can buy.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 18:22:31


Post by: HAZZER


I'm liking the finished gang and the new one man! BTW this is my 999 post meaning my last post in tripple numbers!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 18:26:40


Post by: dsteingass


Haha! The ONLY original Orlock I have (besides the heavy I made as a Catachan) is the one you sent me on that trade Weety I just haven't ran across any in 10+ years collecting minis. Of course, I rarely ever buy minis at full price tho, I always look for stuff on the cheap. I LOVE to go to conventions like GenCon and spend an entire day rummaging through the mountainous boxes of stuff at the Dealer tables/swap meet/auction areas.



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And now for:
The Diary of a Mad Riveter

You should ONLY use the finest fresh-cut rivets, any TV Chef will tell you that "the fresher the ingredients, the better the dish"
And you need a knife blade that has a pointy tip, if you have a knife blade that has a sort of hook-tip, these work well too


1. Stab the rivet, enough to pick it up, but not enough to cut it through (you will develop a sixth sense/feeling for it with practice)


2. (This really should have been step 1, but now you have to put your knife down, sorry) Spooge some fresh plastic glue (testors blue tube is my go-to here, because the smell is better than the orange tube, and no I don't sniff glue to get high Baiyuan!) onto a post-it note or paper or anything but plastic.
2.5 Dip the rivet in glue. It should have a nice blob sticking to it like the following image



3. Place the rivet onto the desired spot, swirling it slightly so that the glue spreads, then when it is in it's final sweet spot, if you stabbed it right, the glue will have more force than the knife blade and the rivet will magically come loose as you pull away.
If you stabbed it wrong, and it sticks, just use your other hand or stick, or whatever to push the rivet down as you pull the knife tip away. After your 50,000th rivet, these still occasionally happen.


4. Repeat steps 1-3







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The pictures are wonky-off center because it is really a bitch to shoot in-focus left handed while I manipulate the scene with the knife.


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Repeat x79 times for 8 bases!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 20:15:12


Post by: lone dirty dog


Great bases like the uniformed look but still varied

As for the chopper yes like I said I think yours is better


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 20:17:21


Post by: dsteingass



Now I clip the runner on the miniature down to the bare minimum


Only clip the bare minimum from the grating


fill the slotta with glue


You may still have gaps, if so, pack in some sand, gravel, whatever into the glue


I guess that's really all there is to it


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 20:34:34


Post by: lone dirty dog


Good job with the base why stick gravel under the base though


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 20:36:51


Post by: Rawson


lone dirty dog wrote:Good job with the base why stick gravel under the base though

I was wondering that myself. Keep all the extra glue from getting all over stuff? Balast? Stocking up to re-gravel the driveway? Gravel smuggling?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 20:38:15


Post by: dsteingass


To fill in any gaps that may be exposed in the slot, it brings the slot level with the grating. Adding things to super glue is always a way of strenghtning models too, it's like miniature concrete when mixed with filler. I didn't really need to fill much of a gap on that Ganger, I just did it to show you how.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 20:46:16


Post by: lone dirty dog


Enough said


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 20:56:14


Post by: dsteingass


Vik mentioned on the earlier set of bases that he noticed the gaps in the bases. That bit of gravel/glue was for Vik!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 21:12:20


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol... yeah all for me^^

big update there mate... you are a teach and a half! and boy did these pics of the plastic containers sent shivers down my spine... rrrr...excellent! there are so many new models you heva not yet used... now i wonder if it would be possible to make a valhallan gang... that would be a nice thing... so many cool mini...

as for the tooltime tut... the same goes for whoever is behind the times and still used cardboard made rivets^^ same porcedure ^^ tho i have to say my needle and pva methode often lost the rivet in the glue touchdown...the plastic glue is one hell of a better glue for that methode...pva really sucks and i do mean it!

is that now a cawdor mini? whatever happened to the delaques? did they already went into hiding just after the painting? and all these new bases.,.. so you are now in full swing with the gang makings?...hmmm^^



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 21:27:47


Post by: dsteingass


Delaques Were primed last night, they are ready for someone to sit down and paint them now. Lazy bastards won't paint themselves. These are the new sculpts of the Orlocks Vik. I don't have any Cawdor.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 21:42:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


see... the referrence to bankers suits pretty well... orlocks and esher... bet they could if they would ...paint themsleves^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 21:59:29


Post by: JB




The only Necromunda figs that I own is the Cawdor gang, and I'm finally going to get them painted...but not as Cawdor. They'll be Chaos traitors of some variety. Ifalna will do a much better job than I could...and it will leave me free to continue painting Cadians...and more Cadians...

Love the minis though. The sculpts still hold up pretty well.




Your gangs look great! Are those Orlocks new sculpts or just castings from remastered molds?



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 22:01:53


Post by: Viktor von Domm


one day i will get me a full gang of redemptionists... as stand ins for the priests my army needs...for me they look excellent for that purpose...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 22:03:11


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks man! They are the new sculpts they did when they re-released Necromunda as Underhive.

Cawdor and Redemptionists are both dead-ringers for Chaos cultists!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 22:11:54


Post by: JB




Cool!! Then I need to pop over to Specialist Games and see what they've updated.

I could use another squad of Chaos traitors.

EDIT: Hmm...looks like the other gangs have not changed. Pity, I'll have to look elsewhere.




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 22:22:27


Post by: dsteingass




They didn't re-sculpt all of the gangs, just Orlock, Goliath, and Ratskins I think.




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 22:27:01


Post by: Viktor von Domm


now this looks like a buch to work with... when will you start?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 22:33:22


Post by: dsteingass


All this riveting has consumed my energy, I am now off to slice up a pork loin into rivets err... I mean chops


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 22:52:18


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol...pork is good for the riveter as for the rivetmaker themsleves too...get yourself an extra portion ^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/08 23:09:40


Post by: dsteingass


The incredible, edible pig!!


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My secret dry rub is applied and soaking in while I heat up the grill...Salivating now, as the smell of thick, raw pork melds with salts, herbs, and spices.
I trimmed all but about 1mm of fat from around the chops, just enough to dissolve into pure flavor.


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/Belch!
That was wonderful! Cooked tender and juicy served over a huge bed of basmati rice, all it needed was a little soy sauce. Ahh


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 00:39:26


Post by: Baiyuan


dsteingass wrote:They didn't re-sculpt all of the gangs, just Orlock, Goliath, and Ratskins I think.

Wrong. Redemptionists, Ratskins, Goliath, Scavvies, Orlock, Van Saar (though it was just a booster and was only available for less than a year). Not counting the individual models that were released in the glorious time when we had Fanatic.


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 02:46:50


Post by: dsteingass


Ya, a bunch of stuff http://www.collecting-citadel-miniatures.com/wiki/index.php/Necromunda_1999_onwards_-_Collectors_Guide


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I took the evening to paint the 1/72 Mortar crew for a review- not related to Necromunda At All.


Yes, the chest sculpts are REALLY that bad!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 11:32:44


Post by: lone dirty dog


I work in the pork food industry and have to say when you see it on a large scale all the time you can loose a lot of love for foods ………...

I have to say those 1/72 minis do look rather mutated I thought they were from some weird war game


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 11:37:49


Post by: dsteingass


HAHA i know right? It looks like the guy on the right has some sort of mutation, a genestealer!




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 11:40:47


Post by: lone dirty dog


You really don't sleep do you Dave


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I was thinking we should get a thread together of all the suppliers that is useful to our hobby (although I am sure there is one here some where) if there is can some one point me in the right direction ……….


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 14:01:21


Post by: dsteingass


Yes I sleep! 6 hours a night, more on weekends, why? I'm also 5 hrs behind you in the UK.

I don't think my readers care as much about my gangs- I am getting read numbers, but FAR LESS comments than I do when I am building terrain.


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The suppliers are different per region though, I can get bulk Plasticard and daylight bulbs easily here in the US, but you can't in the UK it seems, but all the best miniatures seem to be UK only, or expensive to ship overseas.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 14:43:49


Post by: Rawson


dsteingass wrote: I don't think my readers care as much about my gangs- I am getting read numbers, but FAR LESS comments than I do when I am building terrain.

I guess that's true. I really should have said something about your ratskins now that they're finished, but part of the problem is that I'm not really into Necromunda, so I only sort of know what's going on. All three gangs are totally stock, which is cool from a collectors POV, but doesn't generate the comments like customizing does. Your bases are fantastic compared to most, but you've set the bar high for yourself with all of your terrain.

Don't let the lack of comments get to you. You're doing great work! I'll do better at telling you what I think, even if it's just "Looks good to me"

Rawson


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 14:57:51


Post by: dsteingass


Well, you have to have the basic stock miniatures in your gang to play Necromunda, before you can add the more customized miniatures (extra Juve meatshields, plasma guns, etc.) in a campaign or series of games. In 40k, your common lasman will always be a common lasman, in Necromunda they gain experience, gear, and stats as you play.

The gangs just need to get done, and miniature painting to me, is more of a necessity, I am not striving to win any Golden Demons or anything. However, I AM interested in making the best Terrain out there


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 15:19:12


Post by: Baiyuan


Giving a necro gang from stock a nice paintjob isn't worth as much words as creating/scratch building ingenious things from plastic card. I think this is quite obvious.
Which doesn't mean, I didn't enjoy your ratskins, as you can see from my comments.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 17:29:04


Post by: JB




Dakka has quite a few threads and articles on tools, supplies, etc. Any of us can add to the articles...hint, hint...or start a new one.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Category:Hobby_Supplies

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Category:Modeling

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/260250.page


Never give up, never surrender!



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 17:48:42


Post by: dsteingass


I understand Baiyuan, maybe I am expecting too much too.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 18:17:58


Post by: HAZZER


Nicde stuff man!Love the gangs man!I've done my own toutorail too now on my blog!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 20:38:50


Post by: mxwllmdr


dsteingass wrote: I don't think my readers care as much about my gangs- I am getting read numbers, but FAR LESS comments than I do when I am building terrain.



Dave, your terrain brought me here, but the overall experience is keeping me hanging around. Do what you do and, like Metallica, we may not always like it but a true fan will always buy it.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 20:39:46


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Max! much appreciated!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 21:44:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ok... i refuse to take part in this fishing for compliments...^^ no seriously... maybe it is still that time of the year thingy?
i remeber gitsplita asking the same question not too long ago... and you probably saw his many threads...so i think that can happen from time to time...

but for me the current scratchbuilding of guns...the bases and your new found interest in painting is truly a fresh breeze here...

tho i wouldn´t mind the odd new building^^

don´t dampen your spirits by yourself mate! it is way to far away for me to kick your depressed arse^^...so have pitty with me and clench your teeth and get on with that work!


vik, just saying^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 22:13:20


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Coach!
I'm good, really, Thanks Vik!

Maybe I just need a project to get excited about atm, It's not that I dread mini painting, I enjoy it, but maybe it's not really as fun as plastic work?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 22:19:31


Post by: Viktor von Domm


there is nothing to be dreaded... same goes to us viewers here^^ but well...your true calling is and will be plastic wonders done by scratch... dont get me wrong... that big gun of yours was fun to watch in the making...but if you had done that all by yourself... that rage of aplause would have lasted way longer... (am i making myself clear here, or just possibly a clown now?)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 22:32:33


Post by: dsteingass


Ya, but I have to either finish a project or sort of abandon it for a while if it is a big project after so long. Problem is all my projects turn into big jobs


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 22:43:53


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thats is because of that big head of yours... someday ago i saw it on google earth^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 22:47:46


Post by: dsteingass


My head is only big for my Hobby Vik! lol
Otherwise, I am a mild-mannered IT geek


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 23:06:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


so it seems indeed! we do aprove!

aynway... i will now go to sleep... had my tryout day one at the school i talked about earlier on... second day will be also hopefully nice... cross fingers for my still ongoing existice afterwards^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 23:07:21


Post by: PDH


dsteingass - Git you painted a gang in a week! Nice group shot and the shamen is a nice conversion and paint job.

Really like the bases you have done too....rivety.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 23:08:27


Post by: dsteingass


Sleep well Vik! Get the job and work for the MAN!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 23:09:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


man? i am married... to a woman if you must know^^...but i think i get your meaning... *waves*


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 23:44:03


Post by: lone dirty dog


You made terrain

Dave although as vik mentioned fishing for complements is poor show indeed and as Vik I am not going to fall into this entrapment of boosting your ego however hearts will always be won with converting and building from scratch.

The thing is though without our little stock friends would we be here in the first place so remember creativity, inspiration and admiration was all born from our little friends so every now and then give them a little air time.

So Dave hats of you to you for giving them their moment and a well deserved coat of paint



Vik good luck to you with the job I take my hat of to you for taking on a real demanding job after all shaping minds must be hard especially with a mind like yours after all those who can do those who cant teach


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 23:57:03


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Love the ratskins dstein, cant wait to see how the delaques turn out as well. Imo it would be cool to see delaques with black skin and white coats, a sort of f you to conventional schemes!

Need to get one of those "guillotine" thingys as well, would make my life riveting so much easier!

PDH wrote:....rivety

Is it wrong that i read that as "giggity"...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 23:57:11


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, this is much more exciting


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/09 23:58:37


Post by: Rogue Wolves


ooooooooooooo building is looking nice there man, been a while since i thought about your terrain


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 00:03:10


Post by: dsteingass


Holy Crap! You are right!! The Terrain was only the first 30 pages! lol!


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I can't believe We've Fethed off for almost another 30!

Rivet Tower got primed too

This building is sacred to the founding of the =]_,=


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 00:11:26


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Oh i remember that one, that was last year right!!?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 00:14:23


Post by: lone dirty dog


Great but they need paint lots of paint ….. night night


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 00:21:21


Post by: dsteingass


..and the reinforced walkway

yes, paint


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 00:23:21


Post by: Rogue Wolves


let the tital wave of painting COMMENCE!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 00:36:14


Post by: dsteingass


Indeed Rogue, Indeed!
and since the others are still drying, I shall begin the orgy of paint with:

Beebopdrums Tower


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Grungy drybrushes laid right over the black primer

Gnarlock Green, Boltgun Metal, and Tinny Tin (Vallejo)

Only 1 rivet came loose during the drybrushing, it has been blessed, sanctified, and re-glued on now


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More drybrushes, Dark Green, Goblin Green, and a liberal coating of black wash all over the metals
I will let that wash dry until tomorrow and go to bed


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It's funny, as soon as I posted terrain, it was like moths to a flame, Rogue and Vitruvian popped back in! Thaks guys! Missed ya


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 04:21:25


Post by: Rogue Wolves


awwww.. i know... but dont worry i have been completly virgin of computer for the past couple days, but i tried to make an apearance that way you guys dont dare go a day without seeing This Guy! (not really). Soo a question about the paint, do you plan on a. rust or ware and tear, and b. other accent colors on the green?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 06:31:23


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Lookign good. Have you considered hazard stripes to tie it in with the old Necromunda buildings?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 06:39:26


Post by: Einhänder


You should add ladders to that tower to add to the immersion of that terrain piece! Other than that, it's awesome!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 07:20:26


Post by: Rawson


Great start, DST! Do you have plans for some random stenciled numbers and weathering? I think that could really make things pop!

Keep up the great work!
Rawson


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 09:09:36


Post by: neil101


dsteingass wrote:Yeah, this is much more exciting



Looks great mate !!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 09:15:20


Post by: lone dirty dog


Looking good black undercoat my desired colour for all my minis, at first I thought a ladder was needed but then thought it is either a lift in the centre column or stairs is this correct sir

I like the paint scheme maybe some hazard lines would help blend with earlier work maybe near the doors on the column, mind you sorry to say this and only mine opinion but I liked the green in the second picture more than the third but like I said thats just me.


The reinforced walk way is looking great real nice work like the use of COD bitz and sparingly (most terrain are over done I find ) I have to say seems like you have a good stock of tools there my friend commission by any chance lol………..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 09:39:44


Post by: Hmelrose


Dude, I'm loving the terrain! I'd put that elevated bridge on a small rotating lazy susan thing so it could spin.

I used to paint my Orlocks & Goliaths in a similar pattern as my Catachan IG army, that way I could use the models together. When I went to the local game store to play a game of Necromunda everyones eyes would get big when I pulled out 100 Gangers O.O


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 09:51:32


Post by: lone dirty dog


Just looking back through some of your older post again and came across your renegade miniature Disco Stu which reminded me of a mini I converted after being inspired by that one I used a Copplestone Zulu mini and built this thought you might like


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 13:28:22


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks everyone, yes there will be plenty of markings and weathering, be patient, it will come.

The center column of the structure has an imagined maintenance ladder inside behind the access hatches. In game-terms, you can open the hatches and climb up or down at regular movement distances, there is also a top hatch on the cooling apparatus. I like hatches everywhere in Necromunda, I use the physical hatch for exit points when using the tunnels and vents rules, it makes for some very sneaky deployments.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 13:36:26


Post by: Viktor von Domm


at LDD... you dare to present stuuf like that and not make even the sliughtest action to make your own thread...? i have filled with followers more than thirty pages full of banter with not as much as such cool, work on one mini... go man go and grow yourself a pair lone dirty dog! and make your own thread... that instant man! i want to see more of disco stu and that lovley flintlock pistol...and for that matter that sabre too... hurry up dude... or there will be a reckoning! be warned!


as for the dave productions...
men that was an awfully long wait to finally see those building... that big tower with the vent... it has so much personality in iteslf that i would like to introduce it to my firndlist here at dakka^^

also you made quite the strong progress on that bebop tower already! ... green even... how come? i thought you would be more in the blueish depatrment with the munda buildings... nevertheless this will pop greatly!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 13:41:48


Post by: dsteingass


We cannot forget WHY I am doing this, To honor the original card terrain artwork by maintaining the original "look and feel". That means blues and greens

I'm shooting for the green that they used to use on hospital walls actually, to give it that old and neglected lok once the paint is chipped and rust and weathering are applied. If I do it right, there won't be too much green paint left, but just enough that you know what color it maybe used to be.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 13:48:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah you are tallking of these ancient of all paints... vomit brown, puke green and dull white...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 14:09:38


Post by: dsteingass


Precisely! Imagine either a hospital from the 1970s OR use the palette from the Black Mesa Research Facility in Half-Life





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 14:16:01


Post by: shasolenzabi


The buildings are now looking very nice with that lick of paint! Been waiting and it was worth it, you could get away with just washing that bridge maybe some spots of rust, and done!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 14:28:09


Post by: Viktor von Domm


rofl...instantly recognized the pics...lol...yeah... quality sickness to be having after these colors...you get them in all official buildings for some reason...wonder why...all over the world...i suspect a secret society behind that...sounds like a job for the riveteers...onwards for style and better colors!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 14:58:09


Post by: dsteingass


Yes, I think the Government painted EVERYTHING green in the 1950s, then by the 1970s, all that green paint was good and grungy



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 16:11:29


Post by: HAZZER


Let pinting comence! Que music, der der der, der der der (ment to be eye of the tiger!LOL!).


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 16:25:51


Post by: dsteingass


HAHA Hazzer, I prefer the Training music from Rocky (gonna fly now), or maybe the Muppet Show theme?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 16:41:44


Post by: HAZZER


LOL! Or we are the champ's


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 21:45:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


maybe the goverment had just a pretty big can of green open and didn´t want it to go to waste?...we will never get to the bottom of this one...it will be hushed up to the highest places...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 21:48:23


Post by: madmartykmf


Great looking buildings! Welcome back to the terrain making madness


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/10 23:58:32


Post by: Rogue Wolves


dsteingass wrote:Precisely! Imagine either a hospital from the 1970s OR use the palette from the Black Mesa Research Facility in Half-Life






I wonder how he can keep his suit so darn white!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 00:41:21


Post by: lone dirty dog


DAZ WHITE THAN WHITE …..

That 70's green is still used today in our hospitals a bit like the paint our health care has not moved on since then either .

Vik thanks for the kind words and the not so nice ones, like i said earlier I will start a thread soon as I work out what i want in it and what I think is good enough.

Dave thanks for the kind word to mate o you did not leave any I guess that is what you get for jacking your thread then lol

The Beepodrum tower what is the mesh on each level from


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 00:57:55


Post by: dsteingass


Haha

I think I have the green where i want it now.


Now some decisions on markings

@LDD- no problems bro, you'll get there. Your blog doesnt have to be about anything in particular, just think of it as a project diary. I use my own threads to remember how I did things. The mesh is circular granny grating. I had to prime it with spray paint made specifically to meld to plastic, otherwise, paint just flakes off of the stuff. It is soft plastic.
Each level is actually a Folgers Coffe Can lid


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 01:12:24


Post by: lone dirty dog


Brilliant coffee tin Have you made anything using small tins like beans tin they always loo like they would make cool water towers Have to ask what is granny grating

The thread will come soon once decisions is made


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Yes that green looks better again now much better


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 01:41:53


Post by: dsteingass


Granny Grating is plastic cross-stitch fabric. Look back on the thread, Page 12 actually!

And Dammit, I am out of bad moon yellow or equivalent color, Hazard stripes will have to wait.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 01:54:31


Post by: lone dirty dog


Got you it's amazing it comes in circles like that the things we find to use for the sake of our hobby


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 03:51:59


Post by: shasolenzabi


That green is so,,,so ,,,so gov'ty!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 07:42:44


Post by: weetyskemian44


I'm a bit late - but your ratskins are cute and will bring life to the bare metal rivity-ness of your terrain. Scuttling around the girders and up and down the ladders, eating mouldy cheese and crumbs etc.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 10:16:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i second dave statement about not a consistent thread of your own LDD... not that i use my thread as dave does as a means to remember because as soon as a write something it is either forever inside my wetwear harddrive or lost forever^^ whatever comes first...

at dave...hmmm...the more sparkly green suited me better...but i think now will tie in better with the rest of that rotting on terrain^^... so^^

that shammy has to have steely balls...i bet up there the wind is pretty chilly...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 11:29:45


Post by: dsteingass


LOL @ Vik- Like I said before "he prefers the breeze" The whole structure appears to be a heatsink for some equipment several layers below the surface anyhow, but such is the nature of the underhive, we can only speculate what this ancient equipment was once used for

@Weety thank you!

@ Shas, thanks- that was what I wanted.

@LDD I look for the modeling/terrain potential in everything, it's just automagic at this point.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 11:58:13


Post by: lone dirty dog


I prefer the duller green fits the theme better sorry Vik but it's true looks more miss used and abused as the Necromunda world is as for uses in everything I do that but the misses suddenly give's me a huge kick to the arse and saids no more junk I don't know what she means


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 12:26:02


Post by: Rawson


weetyskemian44 wrote:your ratskins are cute

Was "cute" the look you were going for, DST?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 13:44:10


Post by: dsteingass


Of course! Don't you just want to reach out and pet those cute little rat furs? lol


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 20:06:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well... to show off a bit... my wife from time to time actually brings "junnk" at home for me to play/model with it...that is a way of her to show how much she likes it when i create stuff... tho she starts usually to yell if the said stuff is littered around for too long...^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 20:22:03


Post by: dsteingass


It IS possible to train them to start looking at things for their hobby value


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 20:26:26


Post by: Viktor von Domm


LOL...when trained good one should secure those talents and breed to enrichen the genepool^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 22:11:36


Post by: dsteingass


I am either about to be very brave, or very stupid, we shall see!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 22:13:21


Post by: Viktor von Domm


does this show us that you are about to use an airbrush???


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 22:13:53


Post by: HONAW


Buildings are very nice...... I know I cant do that. very good skills!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 22:18:59


Post by: dsteingass


YEs! You can Honaw! In this thread, I have given everyone a step-by step guide bro! You just lack confidence, and you get that with practice

Here, I am praticing what I preach Vik is correct, I am preparing to airbrush, my airbrush scares the feth out of me, I lack confidence in using it. Mostly because I am overly-afraid of not cleaning it properly and ruining something, but I have now tried the windex in the color cup trick I learned from the internets, and it is working! Woohoo! great! my confidence is slowly building


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Look at the advertisement on my Dakka!

targeted advertising perhaps?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 22:46:15


Post by: Viktor von Domm


mate! it always amazes me that other peeps out there have the same fears...and yours you expressed now would have been exactly my own...for the same reasons...well...be sure that i cross my fingers for ye in this endeavor!

as for the nice add...i didn´t find it in the services and existing add...

also...i think we are all able to make our own buildings / terrain...stuff... dave has lots of expierience and of course the full talent in that discipline...but that shouldn´t stop us from trying...he who never tries...will always fail^^


fire away dave!^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 23:26:28


Post by: lone dirty dog


Airbrush just go to town with it spray everything


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 23:39:41


Post by: dsteingass


Wow this pre-mixed paint is thiiin stuff...

This is three coats



This is four coats

I hate waiting on paint to dry...

If I ever do this again, remind me to wrap the damn legs and bottom floor grate in tape too ok?

..and more paper towels down too


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 23:43:26


Post by: RSJake


Airbrush scares me too, I hate to clean ANYTHING! But it doesn't take too long, and the results of using it are really cool. Good luck! Can't wait to see what you do!


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Dam! That was fast!



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Are you going to do hazard stripes?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 23:49:48


Post by: dsteingass


RSJake wrote:
Are you going to do hazard stripes?


Does an Ork shiiiit green?

Of course I am! I am bound to the principal of retaining the "style" of the Original Old Skool Necromunda art man, ya dig?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/11 23:58:32


Post by: RSJake


dsteingass wrote:

If I ever do this again, remind me to wrap the damn legs and bottom floor grate in tape too ok?

..and more paper towels down too


I got here late. Sorry! Yeah, I usually bring in an old cardboard box to do my painting in. It still get all over the table...that I also put a load of newspaper down on!

The stuff gets everywhere! incuding your nose!

Have fun blowing bright yellow snot tonight!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 00:00:34


Post by: madmartykmf


I pitty day fool who don't use dem hazard stripes! Nice work friendo!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 00:01:10


Post by: dsteingass


RSJake wrote:
Have fun blowing bright yellow snot tonight!

HAHAHA! LMAO!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 00:01:16


Post by: madmartykmf


I need to break out my airbrush


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 00:05:44


Post by: shasolenzabi


ah, the yellow and black "safety" marks in a world where everything is dangerous anyway!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 00:40:10


Post by: dsteingass


Yes, nothing has safety railings in the grimdark, but plenty of hazard-stripe painting servitors


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Well, I cooked supper, ate supper, watched 2 episodes of Storage Wars and the paint was sufficiently dry enough for tape


And proceded to fade to black


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 02:46:30


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Haha, nice!

The more you use the airbrush the more confident you'll get. If the paint is that runny you're probably applying it too heavily on one area or its too thin. Many multiple light passes is the key to airbrushing.

Why have railings when hazard stripes do the same job! Cheaper too i imagine


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 03:02:14


Post by: dsteingass


..And the big masking tape reveal!


Needs some touchup, especially on the lower rim, but that will be caked with rust in the end, so no worries.

And of course there is the matter of yellow overspray on the green, no sweat there either.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 03:06:55


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Aaaahh, yellow everywhere!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 03:09:16


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, I don't know why I didnt cover it all up with tape, that was pretty stupid. Oh well, live and learn

If I would have made the pipe in the center radioactive, I could've accidentaly created funky green lighting effects here.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 03:11:47


Post by: Rogue Wolves


i like the look of it.. but i still want to see it set up with the others to get my final oppinion


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 03:12:42


Post by: dsteingass


You don't get to give your final opinion till it's done dood
j/k, I aim aiming for "looks cool"


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 03:14:31


Post by: Rogue Wolves


HEY that winking ork is offensive.. what are you trying to say, that i can only see half of the paint? hmm? lousy catachans...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 03:15:29


Post by: dsteingass


Who knows, I may paint over it all with purple


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 03:17:00


Post by: Rogue Wolves


that dosent sound too bad actually, like how bebops did purple caution stripes...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 03:18:16


Post by: madmartykmf


I would say leave the yellow how it is. The worn faded look is fitting, add rust and scorch marks boom done!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 04:10:10


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, I will probably not fix the stripes, but I HAD to clean up the edges and re-paint the black and green


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 04:36:43


Post by: Rogue Wolves


i didnt meant on this peice as i like it how it is, i meant possibility in future projects


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 04:44:31


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Heh, seems like that overspray created a cool effect once painted over. Like another layer of weathering, particularly on the ground layer.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 04:58:17


Post by: Rogue Wolves


for the record, this is going in my sig...

dsteingass wrote:Does an Ork shiiiit green?


what an interesting comment


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 07:02:10


Post by: Rawson


Rogue Wolves wrote:for the record, this is going in my sig...
dsteingass wrote:Does an Ork shiiiit green?


I'm still not sure about the answer to that question...

Loving the stripes, DST! As for the overspray: live and learn and then get luvs.
Things are really coming along here. Bring on the weathering!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 10:05:54


Post by: Viktor von Domm


great progress here mate...and goes to show that we have nothing to fear than fear itself^^

seeing those hazard stripes i have one suggestion tho...on the yellow stripes i would do a thin black stripe in the middle... for my taste the stripes are a bit too wide...i hope i am not spoiling something of the coolness of that tower now...

but you working now with airbrush and gaining confident now with every use...that opens op a whole new range of options...painting will never be the same... now painting gets exiting^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 10:22:14


Post by: lone dirty dog


I like the size of the black stripes myself ……. I think if they were thinner it would make it look cluttered and steer your eye to much towards them.

I also like the way the paint has applied itself the black over bleed and patchy ness where the tape was has given it a distressed feel without you having to do so, maybe a bit of weathering here and there and the jobs a gooden.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 13:33:11


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks guys! Much appreciated comments, and I mean it!

I am not above allowing any "happy accidents" to remain and pretend that I meant to do it that way But yes, some of the bleed through will definitely help with the weathering process.

There probably won't be any work tonight, as we are going to see the play "Young Frankenstein", one of our all-time favorite Mel Brooks films adapted to the stage.
"walk this way"


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 15:55:40


Post by: RSJake


Sweet Dave! Looks good!

I'm thinking of cracking open my airbruch case this weekend and giving my Mk I Rhino a good coat. I have been playing with the idea of a red camo. Using torn masking tape to add the secondary colors. We'll see if I feel adventurous or not.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 15:58:03


Post by: HAZZER


Looks good man!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 16:07:42


Post by: dsteingass


Cool Jake, I look forward to seeing it! I need to learn more about mine, especially the different size patterns I can get from different nozzles and needles. I have 3 of each, but I don't know anything about them.

Thanks Hazzer! That's what I was shooting for.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 18:01:47


Post by: The Lost Hobbit


Really great looking terrain. Recreating the original cardstock in plastic card looks so much better. I like your bases as well, they really tie the models in with your scenery.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 18:50:22


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks a lot Lost Hobbit!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 18:56:35


Post by: Viktor von Domm


have fun at the play mate...hur hur hur^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 18:57:24


Post by: Tortured-Robot


Looking good there, a ton of chipping and weathering and it'll be awesome socks.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 18:58:57


Post by: nurglerulesslaneshdrools


looking good


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 18:59:24


Post by: dsteingass


Vik, you're a loonie! lol
Thanks Tortured, I plan on it!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 19:13:31


Post by: Viktor von Domm


aye^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/12 19:37:33


Post by: Farty Wiffmas


Looks cool so far, the weathering should top it off!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/13 03:49:53


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Farty!

The show was awesome! Except for the guy sitting in front of me with the giant head and bald spot who kept moving his giant head every time I moved to see around his giant melon...It was a great show!

The guy that played Eye-gor and the girl who played Inga were dead on!
http://www.youngfrankensteinthemusical.com/cast


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/13 05:38:21


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Haha! Nothing more annoying than a melon in the way


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/13 06:25:13


Post by: Rogue Wolves


they have a play based off of young frankenstein!?!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/13 13:24:15


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, I'm not generally a fan of musicals, but this one was very good. It's probably coming to a town near you too.


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I hope there is no such thing as over-weathering




..Because it is too late


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 01:55:00


Post by: dsteingass


Now..What to do with this one?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 02:00:36


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Ummm, paint it?


edit: Only joking!

Round tower looks awesome, not too weathered at all, the sponging is great and the rust looks spot on!


Id go a very chipped back khaki, with a rusty brown base. Perhaps you could use salt weathering?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 06:30:27


Post by: CommissarKhaine


Like the painted tower. For this one, a dul metallic grey maybe, with ots of weathering and oil patches/leaks?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 08:28:20


Post by: PDH


Looks good...and in this case not too much weathering at all.

I rather like Vit's idea of a khaki tower for the next one.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 08:32:02


Post by: Rawson


dsteingass wrote:I hope there is no such thing as over-weathering ..Because it is too late

Not in Necromunda, there isn't! Excellent work! I think you've acheived the "underhive" look very well


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 08:51:24


Post by: The Good Green


dsteingass wrote:Now..What to do with this one?


More rivets?

Maybe some exposed/loose wire or hatches on the base would be a good addition, I'd say.

The round tower looks cool, the hazard stripes came out nice. All the ware and tear on it looks great, too.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 11:48:38


Post by: nurglerulesslaneshdrools


maybe make a vending machine for fun It would definitely look cool


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 12:31:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i second nurgle´s suggestion...dave! make a vendor machine...that would be so cool...could be a funny objective marker...


that tower looks rotten...so rotten...but in a good way^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 14:44:31


Post by: lone dirty dog


How about a man hole on the base or some kind of drain cover and yes a vending machine is a must ……… paint it bright orange

The tower looks good I gather that there is a a lot of post-apocalyptic storms in these parts then …………..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 14:46:15


Post by: dsteingass


A vending machine, in the underhive? really?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 14:47:29


Post by: lone dirty dog


We all have to eat and drink …… and no one said it was working


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 14:53:48


Post by: dsteingass


But they only eat real food in the spire, the entire Hive City eats synthdiet, in the underhive they eat less.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 15:11:35


Post by: lone dirty dog


Well, I have no idea what "synthdiet food is but I am sure you can get it in bar form hence vending machine …….. Takes blaster shots laser rifles and bolter rounds does not except all major heavy weapons use of these will destroy vending machine and contents ……..
Underhive can have rat dispensers …….. sorted ….. and cats …….


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 15:19:25


Post by: dsteingass


LOL, From the first bg fluff released in WD#130 October 1990
"Below the twilight layers is the darkness of the undercity. Here, the only light comes from the artificial glowglobes. Everything, even the air, on these levels has been used before and reprocessed several times. The proteins and minerals in the universal synthdiet is reclaimed from human bodies that no longer have need of it. On hive worlds, everything that can be recycled is recycled, including the people themselves."

It is Soylent Green, basically!
The drug Spook is made from the green dust that the oldest synthdiet decomposes into, it opens up the latent psychic abilities in the user.
It's the Grimdark version of Mad Cow disease, except it gets you hunted down by the =I=.

sigh...Since all 4 of my blog readers demand it....





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 15:33:20


Post by: Vitruvian XVII


Dude, you have more than 4 readers! That makes me lol, what you gonna put in it?? Now you need to make a dodgy traders shack for it to go next to!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 15:54:10


Post by: Eisenhorn


Solyent Green Crunch the only way to start your day.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 16:15:02


Post by: dsteingass





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/01/14 16:59:06


Post by: theunicorn


Soylent Green Crackers, Just Like Grandma Used To Taste.

http://laughingsquid.com/soylent-green-crackers-just-like-grandma-used-to-taste/