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Post by: Brother Chaplain Kage
vic wrote:cygnnus wrote:
Dang!!!! How did I miss those?!?! I'll absolutely second the question! When will those be available?!?! I absolutely love 'em!
Valete,
JohnS
They are with the caster now, probably a month off release, general purpose multi-fit pistol grip arms to follow.
Not to sound pushy, but this reply was 52 days ago, and I would really like to give you some money. Is there an updated ETA?
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Post by: faolan
One word answers most everything:
Customs.
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cygnnus wrote:
Not to sound pushy, but this reply was 52 days ago, and I would really like to give you some money. Is there an updated ETA?
You and me both
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Post by: cygnnus
nedTCM wrote:cygnnus wrote:
Not to sound pushy, but this reply was 52 days ago, and I would really like to give you some money. Is there an updated ETA?
You and me both 
That was actually Brother Captsin Kages's comment , not mine. Although I'd be interested in the answer!
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: faolan
Well, as of last week (since it's Sunday here now), at least 3 shipments of V's were stuck in Customs.
Bureaucracies anywhere are a bit of a nightmare, but here with Customs it's even worse - one guy catalogues what comes in, another fills in the form, a third takes it to the assessor, who then passes it back to the first guy and it goes in a circle for a while, circles a few more times, and eventually they might send you the bill.
It's a bit of an unbound finite loop of entropy.
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Post by: Brother Chaplain Kage
Stuck in customs.
*twitch*
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Post by: faolan
Yeah, believe me Kage, I want to see them out too as much as you do, it's a kick to see things for sale and say "Yup, I did that!"
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Post by: Brother Chaplain Kage
They look great, which is why i want them so bad. >_<
Do you know if they'll be sold as an assortment pack, or will I be able to order them by the specific gun that I want? I hope it's the latter.
On the subject of these great looking guns(kudos btw), would it be too much to request a shotgun in a similar vein? I know that Vic already has a shotgun for sale, and I have purchased some of them and think they're pretty fantastic. The pictures on the site don't do it justice and the level of detail on it is incredible, but it's clearly based on the Winchester Model 1897 'trench gun', which is an old weapon.
Here's a conversion I started on with one of them and a custodian head(which is also very well done):
Now that particular project that my conversion is from is on hold right now because I'm waiting to get some other guns to fill out the squad with. *cough, cough*
I would love to see something more modern looking as well as an automatic shotgun, rather than a pump action, to replace the incredibly lame-looking GW shotgun.
Here's some examples of real world guns I dug up:
And some fictional:
I'd be first in line to buy up something like this if it was like the quality of the slug throwers you made... that I'm anxiously waiting on.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
I like the fictional Shotty on the bottom, very sturdy and robust looking
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Post by: Haighus
The problem with many of those shotguns is there is little to distinguish some of them from standard assault rifles on a model (especially with some of them being designed to have interchangeable parts with assault rifles I think), so I would say that the best designs to be made into a sci-fi shotgun would be the ones which look most shotgun-like. For me, this is the AA-12 and the bottom fictional shotgun that shasolenzabi mentioned.
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Post by: Jefffar
If you are looking for sci-fi shotgun inspiration, here is a good high-tech looking shotgun that still definitely looks like a shotgun.
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Post by: Brother Chaplain Kage
That's a pump action, though. Which I wanted to avoid.
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Post by: shade1313
It's selectable to operate either semi or pump.
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Post by: Brother Chaplain Kage
Yes, I know it has selective options for semi or pump, but it still *looks* like a pump action, which Vic Models already has for sale.
The whole point is I would like to see a combat shotgun that doesn't look like it has a pump, whether or not a real world shotgun can function as an automatic.
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Post by: shade1313
Then I don't know what you're going to find that is going to look distinctly different than a battle or assault rifle, at that scale, because it seems that the underbarrel tube magazine is the deal breaker for you, and every picture example you've posted just looks like a big infantry rifle of some kind, at the scale we're talking about.
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Post by: nedTCM
My Tauroxi have no wheels.
Save me Victoria!
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Post by: Peredyne
Brother Chaplain Kage wrote:They look great, which is why i want them so bad. >_<
Do you know if they'll be sold as an assortment pack, or will I be able to order them by the specific gun that I want? I hope it's the latter.
On the subject of these great looking guns(kudos btw), would it be too much to request a shotgun in a similar vein? I know that Vic already has a shotgun for sale, and I have purchased some of them and think they're pretty fantastic. The pictures on the site don't do it justice and the level of detail on it is incredible, but it's clearly based on the Winchester Model 1897 'trench gun', which is an old weapon...(edited)
..I would love to see something more modern looking as well as an automatic shotgun, rather than a pump action, to replace the incredibly lame-looking GW shotgun.
...And some fictional:
I'd be first in line to buy up something like this if it was like the quality of the slug throwers you made... that I'm anxiously waiting on.
Mad Robot makes an assault shotgun that looks just like the second in the pic.
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Post by: Brother Chaplain Kage
Oooh, so they do. I had never heard of them before. Thanks!
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Post by: faolan
Sorry folks, wasn't ignoring you guys.
Updating the shotty is on my list of things to-do, however, it won't be a highly 'modern' one, just some adjustments to bring it in line with Victoria's new vision and where the line is going.
It's also a bit further down the list as well, since I need to finish a few weapon options for other things that are in the works for Victoria, as well as my own personal projects and other commissions!
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Post by: Brother Chaplain Kage
Mad Robot it is, then.
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Post by: nedTCM
faolan wrote:Sorry folks, wasn't ignoring you guys.
Updating the shotty is on my list of things to-do, however, it won't be a highly 'modern' one, just some adjustments to bring it in line with Victoria's new vision and where the line is going.
It's also a bit further down the list as well, since I need to finish a few weapon options for other things that are in the works for Victoria, as well as my own personal projects and other commissions!
No word on the Taurox wheel conversion kit? Last post about it was may 10th.
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Post by: BrookM
I'm sure we'll hear when they're upon us, they could still be stuck in customs for all we know after all.
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Post by: Eilif
shade1313 wrote:Then I don't know what you're going to find that is going to look distinctly different than a battle or assault rifle, at that scale, because it seems that the underbarrel tube magazine is the deal breaker for you, and every picture example you've posted just looks like a big infantry rifle of some kind, at the scale we're talking about.
This would be my comment as well. Heroic 28mm miniatures have such thick dimensions that anything with a clip or drum is probably going to look like an assault rifle. it's just what happens when rifle barrel sizes are as big as true-scale grenade launchers. The under barrel tube magazine is the visual cue to tell the viewer that what they are looking at is a shotgun.
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Post by: General Hobbs
Has anyone painted up their Arcadians yet???? would love to see them.
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Post by: BrookM
I have, spoilered because well.. I'm not a painter.
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Post by: Dr Mathias
No need to spoiler them, they look good. I really like your color scheme, I've been trying to decide what to do.
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Post by: BrookM
You haven't met some of the people around here then.
And thanks, I went with a Colonial Marines vibe, only minus the camo, can't paint that for crap.
I'm lying, I love khaki way too much.
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Post by: alarmingrick
You're WAY too modest BrookM!
Those rock! You did a fantastic job!
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Post by: MrMoustaffa
Excellent conversions. I've used a lot of Warlord's US infantry kit on my guys and they fit very well. The US backpacks in particular look good on them if you have those laying around.
For you guys out there who don't play WWII, Warlord often does 50% off sprues sales which would allow you to pick up their kit for dirt cheap.
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Post by: General Hobbs
BrookM wrote:I have, spoilered because well.. I'm not a painter.
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One thing I do like about the girls is that they don't have such grotesque hands, making it easier for them to hold weapons from Warlord's range of WWII weapons without either looking out of place, like this trenchgun that I've cut down, because movie reference.[/spoiler]
These look great! Thanks for posting....inspiration to get mine done.
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Post by: Wehrkind
Looks good painted up! Very nice models.
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Post by: warboss
If you painted that model, you are now! Congrats on the promotion!
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Post by: Grot 6
Still have not received my figures.
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Post by: BrookM
If it's been longer than a month I'd take it up with Vic directly.
It usually takes around two weeks tops for stuff to reach me, I got two orders out and about myself that I'm expecting soonish.
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Post by: swampyturtle
Ive PM'ed Vic twice and still havent heard back about my order. This is getting really ridiculous.....
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Post by: BrookM
You may want to send an email through her site instead of this place here.
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/contactus/
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Post by: Desubot
Well i got my stuff like a week ago not too long after i got my shipping notification by email.
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Post by: Frozen Ocean
Could someone take a comparison shot with the wheels next to a Land Speeder?
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Post by: BrookM
Wheels aren't out yet, bit hard to pull that one off.
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Post by: lord marcus
I just sent a message regarding the possibility or some sort of platoon pack for the regular troops.
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
swampyturtle wrote:Ive PM'ed Vic twice and still havent heard back about my order. This is getting really ridiculous.....
I wrote Vic about my order too. They get a lot of stuff bogged down in customs there. So just consider it not mailed yet until you get the Shipped notification from them. I got my shipping notification just the other week. I'm so excited.
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
Vic! Mine came in yesterday! Thank you very much!
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Post by: swampyturtle
Still nothing after 2 PMs and a email. Still waiting as ever though.
edit: heard from vic. All good here
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Post by: vic
swampyturtle wrote:Still nothing after 2 PMs and a email. Still waiting as ever though.
edit: heard from vic. All good here
Sorry to have missed your message, have not checked back here for a while.
All remaining pre-orders will ship out today, with the exception of orders that contain Border World rangers or camo cloaks, as I am waiting on a re-stock of the cloaks. Those should ship later next week.
Apologies for the delay. And thanks for all the support.
I've had knee surgery a couple of weeks ago which has slowed things up too.
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Post by: Lord Castellan
Um... what happened to the Victorian Torsos?
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Post by: BrookM
Chances are these will sooner or later be replaced by shiny new resin ones.
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Got my order yesterday all looks amazing new resin versions are cast really nicely, hope the knee surgery went well and have a speedy recovery.
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Post by: faolan
vic wrote: swampyturtle wrote:Still nothing after 2 PMs and a email. Still waiting as ever though.
edit: heard from vic. All good here
Sorry to have missed your message, have not checked back here for a while.
All remaining pre-orders will ship out today, with the exception of orders that contain Border World rangers or camo cloaks, as I am waiting on a re-stock of the cloaks. Those should ship later next week.
Apologies for the delay. And thanks for all the support.
I've had knee surgery a couple of weeks ago which has slowed things up too.
Heh, shame there's an APS hiring freeze on, else I'd try to get my partner to transfer to Adelaide and pitch in a hand with more than just designs!
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Post by: nedTCM
vic wrote: swampyturtle wrote:Still nothing after 2 PMs and a email. Still waiting as ever though.
edit: heard from vic. All good here
Sorry to have missed your message, have not checked back here for a while.
All remaining pre-orders will ship out today, with the exception of orders that contain Border World rangers or camo cloaks, as I am waiting on a re-stock of the cloaks. Those should ship later next week.
Apologies for the delay. And thanks for all the support.
I've had knee surgery a couple of weeks ago which has slowed things up too.
No update about the Wheel kit?
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Post by: faolan
You've commented. You've waited.
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Post by: Azazelx
Looking really good there, Brook!
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Post by: BrookM
One (perhaps annoying?  ) question: That gap where the sponson appears to be going, can it be covered up? Or will it come with two types of panel, one for sponsons and one without? Because I personally love the design as is and I feel that sponsons would (for me) ruin the overall design.
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Post by: Clang
BrookM wrote:One (perhaps annoying?  ) question: That gap where the sponson appears to be going, can it be covered up? Or will it come with two types of panel, one for sponsons and one without? Because I personally love the design as is and I feel that sponsons would (for me) ruin the overall design.
I presumed the pic deliberately showed one side with the sponson mount, and one without, to show the options. Certainly hope so anyway - obviously some players will want to make a counts-as Leman Russ or similar, with sponsons, but others will just want a very cool alternate-universe Matilda or just generally hate the sponson look. (Similarly, I'm hoping for a choice of turret/sponson weapons.)
Looking great.
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Post by: faolan
The outside is 4 pieces, 3 of which are used - the front, the back, and the two middle pieces that you pick and choose from - the normal side piece, or the sponson piece.
Clang hit the nail on the head.
As for options...
Would be it a Vic Minis kit if there weren't multiple pieces and options?
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Post by: Blacksails
Hnnnng...
Looks awesome!
Any plans for a not-Chimera and not-Basilisk/arty?
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Post by: faolan
Blacksails wrote:Hnnnng...
Looks awesome!
Any plans for a not-Chimera and not-Basilisk/arty?
Personally, I have ideas in mind. Victoria, quite reasonably, said to them "I like the ideas, but let's see how the Matilda goes first." Can't blame her there, a kit of this size is a massive undertaking in time, money, and emotional energy.
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Post by: Blacksails
Understandable. I'll do my part to make this a success!
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Post by: BrookM
Just now got my second squad of FemCadians, nicely coinciding with the arrival of a pack of Statuesque heroic scale heads. Awwww yisssss!
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
I could totally use one. Sign me up for a pre-order once the time comes.
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Post by: Haighus
faolan wrote: Blacksails wrote:Hnnnng...
Looks awesome!
Any plans for a not-Chimera and not-Basilisk/arty?
Personally, I have ideas in mind. Victoria, quite reasonably, said to them "I like the ideas, but let's see how the Matilda goes first." Can't blame her there, a kit of this size is a massive undertaking in time, money, and emotional energy.
Could maybe do a version of the Sexton for the Basilisk (would make a better Griffon though). I'm a bit stuck for the Chimera, I think the closest WWII analog would be the LVT Buffalo, particularly the variants that had a turret on top- is even amphibious.
I hope the Matilda does sell well enough, I would like to see more vehicles, particularly a Universal Carrier model, that would be brilliant. Automatically Appended Next Post: Btw, the model appears to be equipped with a co-axial double barrelled machine gun- is there an option to replace this with a long-barrelled HMG by any chance?
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Post by: Insurgency Walker
Looking good!
Still waiting on wheels. :(
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Post by: Dysartes
vic wrote:Apologies for the delay. And thanks for all the support.
I've had knee surgery a couple of weeks ago which has slowed things up too.
Hope the recovery from the surgery goes smoothly, vic - my brother had surgery on his shoulder last week, and there is a lot of recuperation time involved.
Given the surgery, y'all might eant to stop badgering about the wheels for a bit, y'know...
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Post by: Lone Cat
wow! this is what i've been waitin' for meow
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Post by: BrookM
From Facebook:
Hi, I have had to change the shipping rates. Free shipping worldwide will apply to all orders over $50.00 instead of over $10.00.
This takes effect on the 20th of July 2014, so if you want to take advantage of the current rates, place your order this week.
Thank you.
Victoria Lamb.
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Post by: MrMoustaffa
Eh, may as well still be free shipping. Its pretty easy to hit $50 on an order, especially since I try to bulk order whenever I can
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Post by: cygnnus
Not the worst news on the shipping rates! Now, just get those resin(?) weapons out and I'll have an excuse to get over $50 and put an order in!
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: Blacksails
I'm still waiting for some beautiful female Tannenburg to round out my Mordians.
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Post by: MrMoustaffa
cygnnus wrote:Not the worst news on the shipping rates! Now, just get those resin(?) weapons out and I'll have an excuse to get over $50 and put an order in!
Valete,
JohnS
Well then I've got some good news for you
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/products/weapons-and-gear?pagesize=12
Only problem is I don't see any arms yet for them. I'm also not sure if there's a way to bundle them in with the Arcadian minis as a bulk set, as I'm planning on outfitting my squads with the new lasgun design.
But either way, they've been released, so that's awesome.
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Post by: BrookM
Arms are coming later down the line:
Victoria Miniatures will be releasing male and female universal arms to fit these weapons in the near future. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, the complete set of new weapons:
Really digging the plasma gun and the sniper rifle, may have to order another squad when the weaponless arms become available.
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Post by: Haighus
Have also spotted these on the FB page, and they haven't been posted up here AFAIK.
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Post by: cygnnus
MrMoustaffa wrote: cygnnus wrote:Not the worst news on the shipping rates! Now, just get those resin(?) weapons out and I'll have an excuse to get over $50 and put an order in!
Valete,
JohnS
Well then I've got some good news for you
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/products/weapons-and-gear?pagesize=12
Only problem is I don't see any arms yet for them. I'm also not sure if there's a way to bundle them in with the Arcadian minis as a bulk set, as I'm planning on outfitting my squads with the new lasgun design.
But either way, they've been released, so that's awesome.
Woot! Hadn't seen that, so thanks!
The lack of arms isn't a problam at all for my purposes. And they're sold in sets of the same weapon. Double woot!
Time to get an order together.
EDIT: Am I missing something, though? I don't see the auto rifle on the website...
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: faolan
The sniper rifle also has a cheek rest on it, which you can't see from that side.
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Post by: Javin
Still no Arcadian female arms? Still dreaming of some basic rounded shoulder pads  .
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Post by: BrookM
Weaponless arms are on the way, just a little bit longer, that's all.
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Post by: Clang
Those artillery wheels look perfect for ork players converting mek gunz.
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Post by: Synthetik
Do standard GW IG arms fit victoria torsos , and are there any pictures of such please?
James
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Post by: BrookM
Cadian and Catachan arms fit wonderfully on any male torso, just don't try it on female torsos.
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Post by: Lone Cat
BrookM wrote:Arms are coming later down the line:
Victoria Miniatures will be releasing male and female universal arms to fit these weapons in the near future.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, the complete set of new weapons:
Really digging the plasma gun and the sniper rifle, may have to order another squad when the weaponless arms become available.
And is there any possibility to see autogun that uses oldschool wooden stocks (like the original lasrifles and trench guns)?
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Post by: BrookM
People looking for a bit more diversity in their girls, or heaven forbid, want to have one or two show off a horrible sense of a hairstyle that doesn't belong in a war zone, Andrew Rae's 28mm heroic heads are an excellent fit for the female Arcadians:
Also, minor conversion, decided to snip away a rifle and after some fitting replaced it with this, a spare M1897 shotgun lying around from a box of Warlord US Infantry, yay, new shotgun veteran:
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
Lone Cat wrote: BrookM wrote:Arms are coming later down the line:
Victoria Miniatures will be releasing male and female universal arms to fit these weapons in the near future.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, the complete set of new weapons:
Really digging the plasma gun and the sniper rifle, may have to order another squad when the weaponless arms become available.
And is there any possibility to see autogun that uses oldschool wooden stocks (like the original lasrifles and trench guns)?
Wouldn't that be all in the paint job?
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Post by: vic
Thanks for the comments, here's some more digital gun goodness from Jake.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Damn, that's looking great! Don't spoiler that, show it off for the world to see!
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Post by: BrookM
And here I was, worried I'd have to use gakky Flames of War plastics for my heavy weapons. Automatically Appended Next Post: Also, another gun design has been showcased on Facebook:
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Post by: faolan
Thanks Brook, I can't get images to show up decently sized over here, it's always either thumbnailing it or otherwise making small versions.
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Post by: Matakakea
That strange noise was my credit card whimpering
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Post by: JoeRugby
I really like those but is there Any chance of getting smaller "rubber" style wheels for the guns.
Like the old IG heavy weapon kits in the future?
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
Do I spy the metal heavy weapons arms now in resin on that kneeling soldier?
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
Has anyone bought Broolian Beastmen recently? Have they been moved over to resin? I need some resin Broolian heads.
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Post by: BrookM
From what I see on the site, the Broolians are still metal.
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
BrookM wrote:From what I see on the site, the Broolians are still metal.
It is a bit confusing, though. The trench weapons and groin armor plates are available in resin. And the squad has this blurb to further muddy the waters:
Late 2013 a resin version of this squad will also be available.
And Vic hasn't responded to my e-mail asking for clarification. Oh well, I was hoping someone on here could confirm if the heads were resin yet.
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Post by: BrookM
I think the metal stock needs to vanish first before they make a full switch to resin.
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
Yeah, you are likely correct.
Quick! Everyone buy some metal Broolians!
Please?
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Post by: BrookM
I like them, they just don't fit in with my army. I'd love to use them as conscripts, but that's what the penal troops will be in the not so distant future.
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Post by: JB
Love those heavy weapons and the new regular weapons. Everything seems to be coming together once the arms are ready for the male and female Arcadians.
After all, every IG player should have at least two IG armies right?
Humor me...especially once the Tannenburger ladies are ready too because I'll probably add a third type of IG regiment then. I already have one male squad. What's another three or five?
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Post by: BrookM
My own Guard army is made up of Arcadians and Van Diemen's World Devils, plus a few Tannenberg as Rough Riders.
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
I have Steel Legion and Vostroyans backing up my Praetorians! Not counting the Broolians, of course. I am using those with Tannenburg torsos and arms to make Praetorian beastmen.
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Post by: vic
xXWeaponPrimeXx wrote:Do I spy the metal heavy weapons arms now in resin on that kneeling soldier?
Yes, coming next release in a week or two.
DarkTraveler777 wrote:Has anyone bought Broolian Beastmen recently? Have they been moved over to resin? I need some resin Broolian heads.
Not resin yet. Want to do the Rangers first.
DarkTraveler777 wrote: BrookM wrote:From what I see on the site, the Broolians are still metal.
It is a bit confusing, though. The trench weapons and groin armor plates are available in resin. And the squad has this blurb to further muddy the waters:
Late 2013 a resin version of this squad will also be available.
And Vic hasn't responded to my e-mail asking for clarification. Oh well, I was hoping someone on here could confirm if the heads were resin yet.
The heads are still metal.
Thanks, V
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Post by: shasolenzabi
BrookM wrote:And here I was, worried I'd have to use gakky Flames of War plastics for my heavy weapons.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, another gun design has been showcased on Facebook:

The rapid pounder
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Post by: faolan
JoeRugby wrote:I really like those but is there Any chance of getting smaller "rubber" style wheels for the guns.
Like the old IG heavy weapon kits in the future?
Rubber tyres at about the same size as the current (large) wheel MIGHT be adaptable from the Taurox wheels or the ones I've done for my halftrack. That said, if you wanted them like the smaller wheels listed on another post (so more like the QF 6lb wheels that you mention) it's an entirely new sculpt that would take a good bit of time to do as if I shrink down the existing ones that far, the tread is no longer visible, etc etc.
You know how it is, nothing is ever as easy as simply inputting new total dimensions and going from there.
Also, it would be up to Victoria, dunno if demand would be there for it.
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Post by: Lone Cat
BrookM wrote:And here I was, worried I'd have to use gakky Flames of War plastics for my heavy weapons.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Also, another gun design has been showcased on Facebook:

The weapon itself looks very sleak
Names
A. Heavy Impaler
B. Bolt Thrower
C. Scorpio
D. Ballista
E. Heavy Smartgun
F. Shredder gun
G. 25 mm. homing warhead heavy machine gun
H. 25 mm. AAMG
Take ya pick
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Post by: BrookM
I'd prefer something more industrial and informal, like the Beaumont Arms Mk. IV heavy automatic repeater or the like.
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
I am going to offer up: Hephaestus Field Gun
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Post by: Jefffar
57mm Mobile Artilery Rifle System Mk. IV
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
vic wrote:xXWeaponPrimeXx wrote:Do I spy the metal heavy weapons arms now in resin on that kneeling soldier?
Yes, coming next release in a week or two.
DarkTraveler777 wrote:Has anyone bought Broolian Beastmen recently? Have they been moved over to resin? I need some resin Broolian heads.
Not resin yet. Want to do the Rangers first.
DarkTraveler777 wrote: BrookM wrote:From what I see on the site, the Broolians are still metal.
It is a bit confusing, though. The trench weapons and groin armor plates are available in resin. And the squad has this blurb to further muddy the waters:
Late 2013 a resin version of this squad will also be available.
And Vic hasn't responded to my e-mail asking for clarification. Oh well, I was hoping someone on here could confirm if the heads were resin yet.
The heads are still metal.
Thanks, V
Thanks for the responses Vic  Keep up the excellent work.
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Post by: Lone Cat
Nah! I don't think this artillery piece uses 57mm ammunition. it rather uses 25mm short cartridge so the reciol is controllable meow~
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Post by: Haighus
BrookM wrote:I'd prefer something more industrial and informal, like the Beaumont Arms Mk. IV heavy automatic repeater or the like.
Jefffar wrote:57mm Mobile Artilery Rifle System Mk. IV
I think that these are more on the right track- also fits with the general Commonwealth theme to a lot of the weapons and Regiments so far.
Probably would be a good idea to avoid calibres though, especially seeing as we are not sure of the barrel diameter.
The weapon carriages look great, are we likely to see an autocannon version too? I would love to see mortars and heavier artillery as well, but I guess that will have to wait to see what demand is like.
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Post by: Alpharius
I'm going with:
D.E.M. Mk XIII Perforater
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Post by: Lone Cat
1. 57mm is antitank/anti aircraft ordnance. while the weapon in question serves the function of Heavybolter/Heavy MG/ Light antiaircraft equipment
2. If Victoria miniatures were made in heroic scale. 25mm 'machine gun' is best portrayed this way. also this weapon is seen mounted on bow mount of Vic Matilda tank.
^ Something that might be close to the actual Heavy Bolter rounds of the far future
Lonecat Nekophrodite
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Post by: Snrub
Well Vic already has the V.E.R.A (Vicker's .88 Repeater Autocannon)
So what about the Vickers Carriage Heavy Cannon "Line-smasher"?
V.C.H.C Line-smasher.
Also the weapon packs are up in the store now. Plasma guns/sniper rifles/etc.
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Post by: Haighus
Snrub wrote:Well Vic already has the V.E.R.A (Vicker's .88 Repeater Autocannon)
So what about the Vickers Carriage Heavy Cannon "Line-smasher"?
V.C.H.C Line-smasher.
Also the weapon packs are up in the store now. Plasma guns/sniper rifles/etc.
I would rather save that name for a gun that actually had the Vickers barrel, like a larger version of the V.E.R.A. Maybe change it to Enfield carriage heavy cannon?
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Post by: Snrub
I assumed it was called the Vickers because Vic's name is Victoria, rather then it being a genuine Vickers firearm.
I could well be wrong here though.
Her range is rather English inspired though, isn't it?.
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Post by: Lone Cat
^ most of it were made after the old Imperium Britania. except... Arcadians.. and custodians... which are 2nd edition cadian remade (and the helmet shape looks very German).
Vickers were actually a brand of firearms and military hardwares that serves both the British Empire and beyond... including the old Siam.
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=194514
^ (British) Vickers, and (American) Browning water-cooled HMG were both purchased by Siam. not being ruled over by any European powers mean that the nation may buy guns from anyone... usually the cheapest bidders / the best performers.
^ This tankette... the first tracked armored vehicles Siamese ever purchased, (the medium rhomboid tanks were beyond our reach.. and possibly too expensive and too complex to maintain), armed with only vickers HMG (or sometimes Antitank rifle or newer air-cooled MGs) . saw action against French Indochina colonial forces in 1941 (and it was proven to be a sucka... easily destroyed even by french 25mm Antitank cannon) http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/gb/Carden-Loyd_MkVI.php
^ Vickers 6 ton... exports only. Many nations bought these vehicles in large numbers. some were direct clients (Siam, Poland, China, and certain south american nations). This vehicle helped propelled The People’s Party (คณะราษฎร) into its power (and maintain its hold for 15 years! from 24th June 1932 to 1947) and saw action twice.. first repelled the reactionary rebellion of 1933 led by royalists, and second.. against Francaise Indochine in 1941.
yet some industrial nations bought these to reverse engineer it... (Italy, USSR, Japan, Poland, and Czechoslovakia... possible reverse engineering clients may be the United States too! since most of their tanks in WW2 were more or less modelled after (or resembling) Vickers 6 tons)
Vickers 6-ton AA variants, mounted the 40mm water cooled antiaircraft gun on open chassis, by the time of its release (1930s) this thing is quite advanced and I don't know of someone else had this too!
These were products of Vickers.
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Post by: Haighus
Yup, although the most famous Vickers weapon was the .303 calibre water cooled Vickers MMG, which appears to be the direct inspiration of the V.E.R.A (same distinctive barrel shroud).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_machine_gun
My favourite fact about the Vickers gun: "The weapon had a reputation for great solidity and reliability. Ian V. Hogg, in Weapons & War Machines, describes an action that took place in August 1916, during which the British Army's 100th Company of the Machine Gun Corps fired their ten Vickers guns continuously for twelve hours. Using 100 new barrels, they fired a million rounds without a single failure"
TBH, I would love a larger, tripod mounted version of the V.E.R.A, to use instead of heavy bolters.
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Post by: stormwell
Haighus wrote:TBH, I would love a larger, tripod mounted version of the V.E.R.A, to use instead of heavy bolters.
Same.
Though this is probably the closest for the time being; http://www.westwindproductions.co.uk/catalog/images/b_sotr10.jpg
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Post by: Haighus
Not bad, although it comes with the crew and has a leather barrel cover which I personally don't like.
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Post by: BrookM
From Facebook:
Hi, some have asked if there is a Heavy Mortar coming with the new artillery pieces. You betcha, another beauty from Jake Schneider.
Cheers, V
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Post by: Lone Cat
Haighus wrote:Yup, although the most famous Vickers weapon was the .303 calibre water cooled Vickers MMG, which appears to be the direct inspiration of the V.E.R.A (same distinctive barrel shroud).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_machine_gun
My favourite fact about the Vickers gun: "The weapon had a reputation for great solidity and reliability. Ian V. Hogg, in Weapons & War Machines, describes an action that took place in August 1916, during which the British Army's 100th Company of the Machine Gun Corps fired their ten Vickers guns continuously for twelve hours. Using 100 new barrels, they fired a million rounds without a single failure"
TBH, I would love a larger, tripod mounted version of the V.E.R.A, to use instead of heavy bolters.
or do you want VERA to serve the functions of Heavybolter?
And what will the 'big guns' be?? autocannon?
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Post by: faolan
There may be a Bofors style repeating cannon somewhere in there...
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Post by: BrookM
faolan wrote:There may be a Bofors style repeating cannon somewhere in there...
Aw yissssss
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Post by: Sikil
faolan wrote:There may be a Bofors style repeating cannon somewhere in there...
AWESOME!!
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Post by: Blacksails
I'll take a dozen.
Any word on any other regiments getting the female treatment?
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Post by: Haighus
That mortar!  and a Bofors too? My resistance to spending money may be about to fail catastrophically...
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
What's a Bofors?
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Post by: alarmingrick
Maybe it's me, but it seems in poor form to promote someone else's work in a thread dedicated to vic's work.
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Post by: faolan
Is "VERA" the Machine Gun she did ages ago for the infantry?
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Post by: Yodhrin
vic wrote:
Not resin yet. Want to do the Rangers first.
Yaaaaaaaasss
Do we know roughly how long we have to prepare our wallets for their arrival?
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Post by: Lone Cat
This is Bofors 40mm (or 37mm actually) Anti aircraft gun. found used by both sides of the Second World War. (How did Bofors guns managed to escape the blockades imposed by both Allies navy and German U-Boats?) And following the war. (almost) every nation/factions on earth bought this thing ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bofors_40_mm_gun
Bofors is the brand of military hardware manufacturer of Sweden
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Post by: BrookM
Next time when you quote, don't quote it with image tags intact.
Also, the Bofors was built under license by other nations.
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Post by: Fugazi
Love those heavy artillery wheels. Will there be an autocannon-type heavy artillery piece? Or DKoK heavy stubber-type?
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Post by: Frank&Stein
alarmingrick wrote:
Maybe it's me, but it seems in poor form to promote someone else's work in a thread dedicated to vic's work.
I wasn't sure whether I should at first either, but during the shotgun discussion a few pages back someone plugged the Mad Robot shotguns.
Nobody said anything, so I figured it was oke. My apologies if it is not.
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Post by: BrookM
Nothing wrong with plugging other stuff, just don't overdo it or be a wet blanket about it.
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Post by: alarmingrick
BrookM wrote:Nothing wrong with plugging other stuff, just don't overdo it or be a wet blanket about it.
Like I said, it may just be me.
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Post by: Jehan-reznor
BrookM wrote:And here I was, worried I'd have to use gakky Flames of War plastics for my heavy weapons.
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Also, another gun design has been showcased on Facebook:

Looks like an AR1500 to me
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Post by: nedTCM
Those artillery wheels that were posted, are they for a counts as earthshaker platform or are they component from these heavy weapons we just started seeing? Or both?
Any update on Taurox wheels?
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Post by: BrookM
The wheels shown are for the heavy weapon carriages.
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Post by: nedTCM
Check, I saw the different sizes and got to hoping.
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Post by: faolan
While I have plenty of ideas, including towed field artillery, Victoria has been keeping a tight rein on me so that the Matilda project gets finished (my part is finished!), and that the existing stuff gets rounded out a bit more before I'm turned loose on anything really SHINY again.
Besides, if I have my way, any field artillery will be tracked, like the B-4 howitzer!
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Post by: BrookM
Focus good!
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Post by: nedTCM
faolan wrote:While I have plenty of ideas, including towed field artillery, Victoria has been keeping a tight rein on me so that the Matilda project gets finished (my part is finished!), and that the existing stuff gets rounded out a bit more before I'm turned loose on anything really SHINY again.
Besides, if I have my way, any field artillery will be tracked, like the B-4 howitzer!
When you say my part is finished, what happens afterwards? Just out of curiosity what is the process like?
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Post by: faolan
Ned, for digital work the process is something like this:
Make the mesh/model, seek feedback/approval, make changes as necessary, seek approval/feedback, repeat until client and I are both happy (and client runs out of whizz-bang ideas on how to make it shinier). This section requires a lot of printscreen and Ctrl V.
After doing that and verifying the mesh doesn't have any doomsday level errors in it (these things can't be done like 3d models for movies or video games where objects float through each other or are missing entire sides), I send it off for a printing quote (or sometimes with some clients to a tooling agency).
After the quote comes in, confer with the client, get them to pay the invoice that effective pushes the button.
After that you wait X time for the model to be prototyped out, then it depends.
Normally, for example, with Victoria or Curious Constructs the parts get sent to her, she plays around with it and finds anything that doesn't fit quite right (normally owing to a slight shrinkage or expansion during prototyping - I design with 0.15-0.25mm slippage tolerance, but that's not always enough) and then either very carefully sticks it together to give you photos, or makes a very limited production mould that'll do 5 or 10 copies (not at the best quality, but good enough to get an idea), and then sends it off to the proper production caster.
Some things go straight to the caster, but those are usually for things that get thought of after the fact to go with X or Y that's already in the production cycle.
With other clients, they always go straight from the printer to the caster, but again, this can lead to it's own set of small issues, like a bit more sanding needing to be done on the product that arrives in your mail box.
Then the master mould gets made and put in a safe place, and then the production mould is made, things are put into production, and then shipped to the client/owner who then does distribution.
And sometime after the mesh is done and the mould is made I bill the client for my work and nag them for one or two freebies out of the initial production if I want them!
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Post by: nedTCM
Neat!
I am sure it must be nice having the pre prototypes for yourself as well for if you want to make a model a little different that you would want to use as well as the freebies.
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Post by: faolan
Oh no, the client has and keeps the masters, since they're paying for it!
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Post by: cygnnus
I ordered some of Vic's new weapons on the 13th... And, lo! Opened the mailbox today and there was a nice littlke airmail package full o' resin-y goodness.
Amazingly fast shipping for going around the world.
The models, themselves, are very nice. Crisp detail. They're a bit smaller than i'd expected, but considering most of my recent baseline is GW overscale stuff, that's a) not surprising and b) nice since I was looking for guns that were a bit more realistic.
The resin is really thin, and I can see some inevitable battle damage in gaming pieces (especially on the sniper rifles) but nothing that's unreasonable.
I'll post some pix with the guns in use when I get a chance.
Overall, very nice pieces and I'm very happy with them. Great stuff from Victoria Miniatures!
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: Wehrkind
I was surprised by the scale of Vic's stuff too, pleasantly so. I got to check out Jin's standard bearer from Adepticon (I think) and it looked really great. I was super jealous.
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Post by: faolan
Cygnnus and Wehrkind, glad to hear you like the stuff and it's scale. The guns were designed, from the start, with the directive of "make them slightly smaller than the plastics" so that they'd "fit with the girls too".
Can't wait to see the pics, it still overwhelms me that people are playing with stuff that I've done.
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Post by: BrookM
Rejoice, kneeling legs for both the boys and girls are now available!
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Post by: General Hobbs
Legs and hopefully the arms soon. I foresee another big order soon....
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
I shall commence the rejoicing!
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Just a couple of questions :
What happened to this head idea you previewed a while ago and any news on the bike release ?
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Post by: Javin
I am still hoping for shoulder pads so I can integrate your Arcadians with my cadians.
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Post by: nedTCM
Javin wrote:I am still hoping for shoulder pads so I can integrate your Arcadians with my cadians.
You can get shoulder pads in tank boxes or in a Valkryie. Any extra arms as well, you can saw off the arm and use a file to hollow it out so it fits into where ever you want a pad to go. Automatically Appended Next Post: lone dirty dog wrote:Just a couple of questions :
What happened to this head idea you previewed a while ago and any news on the bike release ?
WOW That looks pretty great! The girls she posted are finally shipping too. I hope she makes some females for the other regiments.
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Post by: HisDivineShadow
With the free shipping level being changed to 50..is it intentional that squads are priced at at 49.90?
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
lone dirty dog wrote:Just a couple of questions :
What happened to this head idea you previewed a while ago and any news on the bike release ?
This head is one of the breather heads they do. I use one here.
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Thanks xXWeaponPrimeXx but I meant the converted version as in the picture with the bear skin added.
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Post by: winnertakesall
lone dirty dog wrote:Just a couple of questions :
What happened to this head idea you previewed a while ago and any news on the bike release ?
100%
I desperately want that head for my Napoleonic Old Guard Guard force (makes sense)
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Post by: lone dirty dog
I get you
I have been waiting for this to appear for ages
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Post by: winnertakesall
I have literally an entire Imperial Guard army, sitting on sprue waiting for those heads.
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Post by: japehlio
+1 (or whatever it takes) for those heads...
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Post by: faolan
Hehe I promise I'll raise it with V, since I need to talk to her about some other very shiny ideas soon.
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Post by: nedTCM
Any word about the Taurox wheels? Last post about them was in may.
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Post by: Sikil
I second the querry about the Taurox wheels, my truck is still waiting on proper wheels for the front (to make it a half-track).
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Post by: Swastakowey
Any chance that the metal rough rider legs can be made available?
Every time I use them I need to bend their legs to make them fit my mount. I feel like if I get the rein ones they will simply snap or something.
If anyone has used the resin ones and successfully bent them to fit, I would love to hear it.
Cheers
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Post by: General Hobbs
Swastakowey wrote:Any chance that the metal rough rider legs can be made available?
Every time I use them I need to bend their legs to make them fit my mount. I feel like if I get the rein ones they will simply snap or something.
If anyone has used the resin ones and successfully bent them to fit, I would love to hear it.
Cheers
Have you tried putting them in hot water and then bending them on the horse, so that it holds the shape?
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Post by: Barzam
I know you guys probably are busy with the Taurox wheels and getting the Arcadians all sorted out, but is there any chance that we might see some legs with Puttees in the future? I'm still hoping to make some WWI style guys and legs wearing those would be great.
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Post by: Swastakowey
General Hobbs wrote: Swastakowey wrote:Any chance that the metal rough rider legs can be made available?
Every time I use them I need to bend their legs to make them fit my mount. I feel like if I get the rein ones they will simply snap or something.
If anyone has used the resin ones and successfully bent them to fit, I would love to hear it.
Cheers
Have you tried putting them in hot water and then bending them on the horse, so that it holds the shape?
Dont worry, all is sorted via email.
Cheers mate!
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Post by: VikingChild
Barzam wrote:I know you guys probably are busy with the Taurox wheels and getting the Arcadians all sorted out, but is there any chance that we might see some legs with Puttees in the future? I'm still hoping to make some WWI style guys and legs wearing those would be great.
Me too, please!
I think they'd go really well with the Border World rangers or the Van Diemen's World devils. As Barzam says, WW1 style guardsmen using such legs and with your brodie helmet or balmoral cap heads would look pretty cool.
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Post by: faolan
Alright, in regards to the Taurox, I can honestly say.. no fething clue.
Mind you, Victoria handles all of this as it's her business, but the last time I talked to the caster (who I'm doing commissions for as well), she said the master was made and it'd be shipping soon.
That was a good long while ago, so I can't tell you, heh.
Victoria has been hell bent for leather with theatre stuff lately, even I've had a hard time getting a chat with her!
That said, I'm in the same boat as you, waiting for the wheels for my Taurox, so you have my commiseration.
But you know what I'm really waiting for? The heavy weapons carriages, hehe. So for that matter are a couple of GW employees I know!
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Post by: BrookM
Fair enough, I've seen the theatre portfolio on her site and it's quite impressive.
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Post by: nedTCM
faolan wrote:Alright, in regards to the Taurox, I can honestly say.. no fething clue.
Mind you, Victoria handles all of this as it's her business, but the last time I talked to the caster (who I'm doing commissions for as well), she said the master was made and it'd be shipping soon.
That was a good long while ago, so I can't tell you, heh.
Victoria has been hell bent for leather with theatre stuff lately, even I've had a hard time getting a chat with her!
That said, I'm in the same boat as you, waiting for the wheels for my Taurox, so you have my commiseration.
But you know what I'm really waiting for? The heavy weapons carriages, hehe. So for that matter are a couple of GW employees I know!
WOW Today I learned that Hell Bent For Leather was an actual phrase. I thought it was just the name of a Judas Priest album.
Shame about those wheels. They have been pending for a while now and in the grand scheme she is no longer striking while the iron is hot as a bunch of other companies have released kits. I think these ones look better, but I am getting impatient as I am sure everyone else is.
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Post by: General Hobbs
faolan wrote:Alright, in regards to the Taurox, I can honestly say.. no fething clue.
Mind you, Victoria handles all of this as it's her business, but the last time I talked to the caster (who I'm doing commissions for as well), she said the master was made and it'd be shipping soon.
That was a good long while ago, so I can't tell you, heh.
Victoria has been hell bent for leather with theatre stuff lately, even I've had a hard time getting a chat with her!
That said, I'm in the same boat as you, waiting for the wheels for my Taurox, so you have my commiseration.
But you know what I'm really waiting for? The heavy weapons carriages, hehe. So for that matter are a couple of GW employees I know!
Any word on the arms for the Arcadians????
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Post by: Grot 6
These are some of the best figures I've ever picked up, across the board.
I'll be picking up a few more in the near future.
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Post by: Barzam
Didn't I see some arms that didn't have weapons molded into their hands somewhere, or was I imagining things?
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Post by: General Hobbs
I don't see any......
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Post by: BrookM
Because those arms are still in the works.
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Post by: General Hobbs
They said a couple months ago it would be soon.
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
Patience is a virtue. Quality work takes time
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Post by: BrookM
I suppose you missed this post.
faolan wrote:Alright, in regards to the Taurox, I can honestly say.. no fething clue.
Mind you, Victoria handles all of this as it's her business, but the last time I talked to the caster (who I'm doing commissions for as well), she said the master was made and it'd be shipping soon.
That was a good long while ago, so I can't tell you, heh.
Victoria has been hell bent for leather with theatre stuff lately, even I've had a hard time getting a chat with her!
That said, I'm in the same boat as you, waiting for the wheels for my Taurox, so you have my commiseration.
But you know what I'm really waiting for? The heavy weapons carriages, hehe. So for that matter are a couple of GW employees I know!
So, cool your jets, she's hella busy.
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Post by: faolan
On the bright side, it's time in which to paint the mountains of resin and metal we all own already, right?
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Post by: BrookM
I really need to find the spare time to do just that in all honesty.
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Post by: nedTCM
For the Taurox wheels it is more of a question of should I wait for hers or buy another option as the Taurox has been out for a while now. I like the look of Vics better then most of the competitors, but since they dropped off the radar so to speak it became a question of are they still coming at all.
I shot an email to their website and stated they are still being worked on and are hoping for another month or so for release. I understand also that this is an estimate and it is enough for me to be willing to keep waiting for Vic's kit.
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Post by: gummynerds
Impressive sculpts!
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Post by: MajorStoffer
I just got a set of vi'c Victorian Rifles, along with Captain Caine and the Heavy Weapon Arms, and boy they're something else.
I really liked the metals, but the extra level of detail these guys have damned near puts Forgeworld to shame (and considering whichever caster you're using is fantastic; the resin is much more durable than that of my Death Korps, there're another few points in your favour). I was initially concerned about the switch to resin, given prior experience with Forgeworld and GW, but I can confidently say my concerns have been waylaid. The material is superb quality, and the models are made knowing the limitations of resin; everything's just thick enough to keep it's shape and avoid breaking easily, but not so thick as to look cartoonish.
My only negative comments are pretty tiny; the ridging on the pith helmets is so subtle that unless you use extremely thin paint, and a very good wash, they're easily lost, and some of the rifle straps were a little damaged, like 3 out of the 30 or so in the sets I ordered, so again, nothing significant.
My only wish is that there was a torso I could use to more readily emulate Colour Sergeant Bourne from Zulu; one of the heads is a spitting image, but his tunic was rather distinctive (I ended up pseudo-making one out of a Cadian officer torso and some greenstuff). Perhaps an idea for a standard bearer for the Victorian range, like the event one done for the arcadians?
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
nedTCM wrote:For the Taurox wheels it is more of a question of should I wait for hers or buy another option as the Taurox has been out for a while now. I like the look of Vics better then most of the competitors, but since they dropped off the radar so to speak it became a question of are they still coming at all.
I shot an email to their website and stated they are still being worked on and are hoping for another month or so for release. I understand also that this is an estimate and it is enough for me to be willing to keep waiting for Vic's kit.
Lesser quality faster, or better quality slower. The choice is yours and yours alone.
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Post by: General Hobbs
Any news or updates????
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Post by: faolan
Victoria will be back from Sydney within the next week, and tracking shows a package has arrived at her place.
Can't wait to find out what came in.
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Post by: BrookM
From Facebook:
A sneak peak of the massive haul of awesome new bits that were waiting for me when I got home last night. I have been in Sydney for two weeks designing "Kryptonite" for the Sydney Theatre Company.
Great to be back, I can't wait to get working on releasing the latest resin goodies.
edit.
I spy Taurox wheels, heavy weapon wheels and riot-like shields.
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Post by: Haighus
 looking good! I can also see heavy weapon gun shields, and something that looks like it is probably the heavy weapon gun mounts with trails and axles. As well as some large guns, and something which looks like a sprue of arms on the far right mid way up.
Not to mention some of those wheels are much smaller, and appear to be doubled up- Matilda II road wheels?
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Post by: faolan
Ah Brook, taking care of things while I was drooling after not falling asleep til 5am. You are amazing, as always.
Taurox suspension kits, riot shields, heavy weapon carriages and their attendant weapons, 3 types of wheels, guns, guns, moar gunz, some torsos, and some other goodies.
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Post by: Insurgency Walker
Oh dear god. Riot shield and Taurox wheels!
I'm in heaven!
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Post by: Barzam
I'm guessing those are the weapon holding arms for the Arcadians? Nice to see riot shields. I hope some riot cops similar to the custodian show up.
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Post by: Brother SRM
Riot shields, now you've definitely got my interest!
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Post by: Lone Cat
BrookM wrote:From Facebook:
A sneak peak of the massive haul of awesome new bits that were waiting for me when I got home last night. I have been in Sydney for two weeks designing "Kryptonite" for the Sydney Theatre Company.
Great to be back, I can't wait to get working on releasing the latest resin goodies.
edit.
I spy Taurox wheels, heavy weapon wheels and riot-like shields.
So many wheels! Taurox, Heavy weapons, and ... let me guess..... artillery piece.
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Post by: faolan
I don't see any arms. I do see not-plas pistols, however!
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Post by: BrookM
I also think I see torsos in the bottom middle of the picture, could be mistaken.
But, looks like I'll be placing an order sooner or later, as soon as those weaponless arms show up.
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Post by: Barzam
faolan wrote:I don't see any arms. I do see not- plas pistols, however!
You might be right. You've probably got a better idea of what's in that pile than I do.
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Post by: Sikil
I ned those Taurox wheels!! ETA on when they go up on the store?
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Post by: VikingChild
Down at the bottom-middle of that glorious photo there looks like a baggy of torsos with some kind of integral backpack sculpted on it. I could be totally wrong but if not I'd be very interested to see what they look like!
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Post by: Haighus
faolan wrote:I don't see any arms. I do see not- plas pistols, however!
Ah yes, now I'm looking at them as Plas pistols they make more sense now.
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Post by: faolan
Barzam wrote: faolan wrote:I don't see any arms. I do see not- plas pistols, however!
You might be right. You've probably got a better idea of what's in that pile than I do.
Actually mate, I've only got some ideas as to what's in there, Victoria doesn't tell me everything. Some of it's guesses, some of it I know for a fact because I know what parts go with what, and some of it I suspect includes restocks.
I wonder if this is Package #1, Package #2, some combination of the two, or maybe even Package #3 (or all of them piled together). It's as much suspense for me as it is for you guys (and gals)!
I see what you mean about torsos, they look like torsos with integral backpacks, but to my knowledge nothing of that is in the line, as the Mossguard backpacks are separate. Maybe the shipping has jostled two sprues to match up, or maybe there's something in there that I'm not privy to.
SUSPENSE!
Also, from talking to Victoria the other day when she was still in Sydney, she needs to verify the casting of everything in the box (not that the caster isn't trusted, V just likes to eyeball everything herself before sending it out the door for QC) and then things should start going up on the website over the next few days to a week.
Taurox Stuff
So I chatted with the caster the other day, and she explained the hold up on the Taurox stuff. Basically, it came down to having to do the moulds in a completely different way and some trial and error because of the shapes involved. I designed some solid, yet delicate (in regards to moulding/demoulding) parts that while perfectly serviceable, required different approaches from normal. So it because a case of make a test mould, make several test pours, then discard it and try a new design. This had to be done several times, and some innovative bracing had to be achieved. Also, because 3d parts can be very thin and have some "bounce" to them, a couple of times the mould would temporarily bend the master slightly, rendering the attempt futile. Then a few of the changes the caster made muffed up the fit slightly, so they had to be partially reverted.
Since that chat, we've revamped a couple of details on things here and there that have yet to be shown off and can hopefully avoid these things in the future. While I feel I have a very good handle on what the technology I use can and cannot do, and where I can push the boundaries and succeed vs where it'll just stack horribly, I'm still learning from the casters and having to take their art into account.
So I am more than willing to wear a bit of your ire and some of the blame for it taking so long to get the suspension kit to you.
And if I'd known what the delay was sooner (I'd been out of contact with the caster as we'd each been hellishly busy with things that didn't bring our paths into crossing for a while), I'd have let you guys know sooner!
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
ITS EARLY CHRISTMAS!!!
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Post by: faolan
Oh, it's about to get a lot more festive you gits!
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Post by: General Hobbs
I saw Vic say on her FB page that arms were being sent off to be molded.
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Post by: BrookM
Then my order wont be far off.
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Post by: faolan
Brook, I'm waiting on them too, once those are back I'll be getting some Arcadians.
Which will go nicely with the heavy weapons!
And if I say the other thing, I'd risk breaking NDA, hehehehe.
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Post by: BrookM
For me it's Taurox wheels for Taurox #3, Devil's officer arms, a squad of FemCadians plus crouching legs and an extra batch of torsos and a set of weaponless arms when they happen. Only thing missing right now is Andrew Rae's 28mm heroic beret heads for more veterans.
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Post by: Insurgency Walker
faolan wrote:Brook, I'm waiting on them too, once those are back I'll be getting some Arcadians.
Which will go nicely with the heavy weapons!
And if I say the other thing, I'd risk breaking NDA, hehehehe.
The other thing?
Can it Waltz?
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Post by: faolan
Gods dammit.
There's a slight delay on the Taurox wheels. Someone from the prototyping company decided to cut corners and cloned Part #1 3 times, instead of #1 x2 and #2 x2.
Got to get that part printed and a new sprue made.
I am so going to stab someone in the face repeatedly.
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Post by: BrookM
This is saddening news, however not the end of the world quite yet. I would personally be panicking if the weaponless arms were out right now and the wheels weren't.
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Post by: vic
Yeah that.
I'll be working on getting the heavy artillery and new small arms in the shop asap, while we fix the APC wheels issue. Thanks all, for the ongoing support and patience.
V
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Post by: BrookM
By the way, can't quite remember, but is your Taurox solution a four wheel or six wheel thing?
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Post by: faolan
4 wheels, including a suspension mount to the body, which I've been told a few of the solutions out there don't have.
Me, I can't see doing it and NOT having that major part.
In regards to the problem, yes, I'll be contacting the prototypers tomorrow (Aus Monday, US Sunday still, so I don't foresee a reply until the next day at the earliest) and a couple of alternates to see who can produce an acceptable solution the quickest. Sadly, my fall back "it's an emergency, save me!" option is out of the country for a fortnight and gone to the UK.
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Post by: BrookM
I've used wheels from another company for two Taurox's to date and it's just wheels, you're left to work out for yourself how to best attach them to the body, which in my case involves bodging it.
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Post by: faolan
If Victoria gives it her blessing, I'll post up the little "Instructional" I cooked up for how it goes together later.
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Post by: BrookM
Speaking for myself, no rush here. It's not like you guys are running a Kickstarter, then I'd be worried.
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Post by: Snrub
Speaking of....
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Post by: BrookM
Just saying, if it happens, it will turn people who back you into impatient little monsters. Just look at me when Raging Heroes is involved.
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Post by: Snrub
Not me. I'm a paragon of patience and will power.
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Post by: lone dirty dog
Any news on the bikes you previewed
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Post by: Insurgency Walker
faolan wrote:Gods dammit.
There's a slight delay on the Taurox wheels. Someone from the prototyping company decided to cut corners and cloned Part #1 3 times, instead of #1 x2 and #2 x2.
Got to get that part printed and a new sprue made.
I am so going to stab someone in the face repeatedly.
Bummer.
I can wait because your solution rocked with the suspension.
If you need a hand with that last part........
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Post by: BrookM
Snrub wrote:Not me. I'm a paragon of patience and will power.
I can be patient, I'm a Kingdom Death Monster backer.
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Post by: Insurgency Walker
BrookM wrote:Just saying, if it happens, it will turn people who back you into impatient little monsters. Just look at me when Raging Heroes is involved.
You must be a wave three.
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Post by: BrookM
I'm in for General Wolfenstein. Awww yis, she didn't get unveiled until last update. She be one of the last concepts to be wheeled out, aside from old man Kurganova.
On the bright side though, I'm not building an army of out oddly posed girls who can't fit onto their bases because they got their legs so far apart. Instead, I'm going with the more sensible option..
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Post by: cygnnus
faolan wrote:Cygnnus and Wehrkind, glad to hear you like the stuff and it's scale. The guns were designed, from the start, with the directive of "make them slightly smaller than the plastics" so that they'd "fit with the girls too".
Can't wait to see the pics, it still overwhelms me that people are playing with stuff that I've done.
A bit late, but I finallly uploaded some pix of what I had in mind for the Victoria Miniatures weapons. I love Dreamforge's Eisenkern, but I'm not really a fan of the pseudo-MG42's they use for their basic rifle (mind you, I like them as a support weapon!), so I thought Victoria's weapons would work...
Spoilered for those who might not want to see the big pictures.
Have plenty more to covert, including officers, a kneeling sniper, and plasma gunners. But i'm pretty darned happy with how they've worked so far.
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: Snrub
BrookM wrote:I can be patient, I'm a Kingdom Death Monster backer.
Touché
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Post by: Swastakowey
Since we are showing off conversions with the new parts here is something I worked on:
The new guns are great I thought. Look very nice.
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Post by: faolan
Damn, nice work Swas!
And Cyg, that's a pretty nice conversion there, looks like you hit the nail on the head with that one. You forgot to glue the bipod on the sniper rifle though
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Post by: cygnnus
faolan wrote:Damn, nice work Swas!
And Cyg, that's a pretty nice conversion there, looks like you hit the nail on the head with that one. You forgot to glue the bipod on the sniper rifle though 
LOL! Actually, I'm still torn on that one. It doesn't fit particularly well with the hand on the barrel. But you are correct that it's definitely missing something without it.
Still, the bits are very nice and very easy to work with.
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: faolan
Cygn, you could fold the bipod forward, that would look sharp.
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Post by: cygnnus
faolan wrote:Cygn, you could fold the bipod forward, that would look sharp.
Hadn't considered that idea. Might have to see if it'd work. Otherwise, I may just have to trim off the bipod mounting bracket itself. But I'll try that out. Cheers for the idea.
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: Commander Cain
Those guns work amazingly well with the Dreamforge models. Might have to get some for my guys now...
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Post by: Lone Cat
BrookM wrote:I'm in for General Wolfenstein. Awww yis, she didn't get unveiled until last update. She be one of the last concepts to be wheeled out, aside from old man Kurganova.
On the bright side though, I'm not building an army of out oddly posed girls who can't fit onto their bases because they got their legs so far apart. Instead, I'm going with the more sensible option..

Tell me about the cowgirl plase
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Post by: BrookM
Counts as Harker, but as a gender swapped Blaine from Predator, tried going for a M-TV logo on her top, but I'm a gak painter. Parts used: Bombshell miniatures Bug Spray, metal Terminator assault cannon, Imperial Guard vehicle accessory sprue ammo box, the hopper belt is from Zinge Industries and the hat is from a Van Diemen's World Devils set. I originally bought the set just for the spare hat, but I love the models so much that they've become part of my army now as veterans with forward sentries.
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Post by: faolan
Yeah, I just don't like how out of scale they are and how undressed 3/4 of them are.
Don't take that as me being prudish, I had a couple well done pin-up models back home, I just don't think it fits the subject matter!
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Post by: BrookM
I have the three sisters myself, plus I'm awaiting Wolfenstein. I use one of the sisters (Olga, with her cigarette in hand) as an officer of the fleet, the rest are going to be used as Space Marine sergeants in an army I've been planning for some time now.
Nice models, but unless you use them as one-offs they look horribly out of place with the ranges they are supposed to complement or slot into.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
I am just using the sisters Kurganova as Commissars all.
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Post by: BrookM
I prefer using a commissar model from another French company for that part, she's such a great sculpt that even FFG used the model as inspiration for their female commissar art.
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Post by: Mavnas
Care to name the company?
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Post by: shasolenzabi
BrookM wrote:I prefer using a commissar model from another French company for that part, she's such a great sculpt that even FFG used the model as inspiration for their female commissar art. 
Can I see her if I google that? or can you post a copy of it?
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Post by: BrookM
The company in question is called War Forge and here's the girl, twice, with the ugly original pistol replaced with a Webley revolver and slimmer plasma pistol (and a new arm I had left over from one of the Kurganova gals):
And here's the art from Only War:
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On topic, I'm curious when Andy Hoare is going to write a nice fluff piece for the Arcadian guard for the site. Love the other ones.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Ah yes, That one, and that p[ainting image with the power fist and her unhappy look!
My solution for the original with that insanely wide stance was a 40mm base, there was no way she could stand right on the 25mm base without making her legs look broken!
My Olga I gave the pistol, no cigarette holder.
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Post by: BrookM
The sisters really are a pain to stick onto regular 28mm bases, it shows a lack of planning and forethought on part of the creators. Mine I've bent ever so slightly so that she fits onto the utmost edges of the base.
Also, I prefer to swap their pistols where possible, or at least remove those stupid flamer nozzles on a drum-fed gun. With Olga I went with the cigarette because it gave her a look of aloofness, disdain and certainly a sense of not belonging with the rest of the (future) regiment.
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Post by: Ketara
Swas, what are those mounts you have your Praetorians on?
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Post by: shasolenzabi
BrookM wrote:The sisters really are a pain to stick onto regular 28mm bases, it shows a lack of planning and forethought on part of the creators. Mine I've bent ever so slightly so that she fits onto the utmost edges of the base.
Also, I prefer to swap their pistols where possible, or at least remove those stupid flamer nozzles on a drum-fed gun. With Olga I went with the cigarette because it gave her a look of aloofness, disdain and certainly a sense of not belonging with the rest of the (future) regiment.
I understand. the things each does to make the minis work or so, I used the down swung sword right arm on the one as I wrote a tale of dancing a dance of destruction raising and lower her pistol, the double barrel is wrapped not in a flamer tip per se, but stamped air cool shroud for the barrels, kinda old soviet weapon style.
The young sister just has that air of enjoying herself shooting folks too much
Oldest sister olga, has the gun in her arm crooked like she could care less if she has to shoot or not.the monocle also ads to her air of "superiority"
But the 40mm bases also mean if they get "stuck in", they can tackle a nice amount of opponents. still have to finish then, so much detail to work with on them, just got some small tip brushes for such work.
I am always checking for the backjground fluff for the Arcadians, sure would be nice to be able to collect and induct them into the Union as well.!
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Post by: faolan
Actually Andy and I had a chat a few months back, Brook. The short answer is "I'd love to but I can't" for reasons of employment at the moment.
In other news, I got a package today, previews of stuff that's coming out Soonâ„¢, and ahmahgerditspurdy!
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Post by: BrookM
faolan wrote:Actually Andy and I had a chat a few months back, Brook. The short answer is "I'd love to but I can't" for reasons of employment at the moment.
Fair enough, I know he does stuff on a semi-frequent basis for FFG's 40 RPG's now, which is always good news in my books.
faolan wrote:In other news, I got a package today, previews of stuff that's coming out Soonâ„¢, and ahmahgerditspurdy!
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Post by: faolan
Heavy Weapons AND 6 new Heavy Weapons crews are up on the website for order.
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Post by: Kid_Kyoto
Gotta love a woman who thinks armoring her knees is far, far more important than armoring her chest.
Nothing important up there anyway.
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Post by: Desubot
You sure want it armored when your kicking guardsman who are out of line
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Post by: BrookM
It's based on a French mini, what did you expect?
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Post by: Wehrkind
Well, to be fair, breaking a knee cap is far more debilitating than breaking a rib. I wouldn't want to take a bullet in either location, but if I am going to get smacked with anything short of high speed metal and only had enough to armor one or the other, I'd pick my knees.
Besides, I would want to show off the results of my rigorous corset training!
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Post by: MrMoustaffa
Holy smokes that heavy weapon is gorgeous.
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Post by: vic
Hi Folks, here we go:
The biggest new release yet from Victoria Miniatures. I am very excited to present five superb heavy artillery pieces expertly sculpted by Jake Schneider. They include a Heavy Bolter, Heavy Mortar, Heavy Twin Stubber, Laser Cannon and Auto Cannon. There is also a multi weapon options for people who like to magnetize their models, as well as wheel variants and gun carriages available separately.
See them here: http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/products/heavy-artillery?pagesize=12
http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/products/heavy-artillery?pagesize=12
Thanks for reading
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Post by: stanman
Sweet, exactly what I need for when I want GW styled Imperial Guard but at several times the GW price.
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Post by: Snrub
Uh.... point out to me the readily available GW heavy weapon carriages.
No...?
Great work Vic (and Jake). Superb looking weapon carriages. Love the mortar and auto cannon especially.
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Post by: BrookM
I think he meant in comparison to the current plastics.
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Post by: sparkywtf
Sure they may be more expensive then hard plastic (for now, give it a couple more years of price raises), but they also look way better and realistic.
Plus higher price means people will shy away from them, making them more unique on the table. (unless people are willing to pay, which obviously they are)
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Post by: faolan
Even on Dakka you can't get away from the trolls.
Resin does cost a bit more than plastic, because resin itself is more than plastic (but the moulds are far cheaper), and it's a PITA to work with/get to pour decently.
Besides, each HWT costs $22 down here from GW ($28 for the "special" ones), so not too bad.
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Post by: Lone Cat
So my 'guess' was right! , the 25mm heavy gun will do Heavybolter functions meow~
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Post by: Brother SRM
faolan wrote:Even on Dakka you can't get away from the trolls.
Resin does cost a bit more than plastic, because resin itself is more than plastic (but the moulds are far cheaper), and it's a PITA to work with/get to pour decently.
Besides, each HWT costs $22 down here from GW ($28 for the "special" ones), so not too bad.
You mean ESPECIALLY on Dakka. That being said, while these are a bit pricey, they look really nice and wholly fit the aesthetic of the troopers. I've really enjoyed watching this range get fleshed out.
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Post by: usernamesareannoying
hey Vic, awesome work but would it be possible to buy the complete guns minus the crew to save a couple of bucks?
just curious as im sure the crew dont match everyone armies.
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Post by: Alpharius
I thought the crew were already sold separately?
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Post by: BrookM
Aye, in form of two or three different sets of parts.
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Post by: ChazSexington
This is awesome! They look perfect for my CSA-inspired IG! Any plans to do heads similar to this?
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Post by: usernamesareannoying
sorry guys, i didnt notice the crew sold seperately tag.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Very nice looking weapons!
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Post by: alphaecho
Aaaaahhh! The beauty of the choices available to us nowadays.
Take some Highland Moss Guard crew, add pith helmet heads and throw in some of Col Gravis' upcoming Steampunk heavies and no two armies ever need to look the same again.
That said I do like the look of the twin linked weapon!
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Post by: Haighus
I really like these- the heavy mortar in particular I can see me getting a few of for my Valhallans so I can have some proper medium artillery for my space-Soviets  They look large and bulky enough to be used as a FW heavy mortar, which is what i want to use them for.
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Post by: RiTides
I agree, that heavy mortar looks like the best by far  . Love it!
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Post by: nedTCM
I am not planning on buying any of these, but I think it is pretty awesome that besides looking great they are designed to accept magnets for easy swapping. All models should be like that.
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Post by: Padre
Great work Vic!
Love the Heavy Mortar...
BUT may I suggest that a four-barrelled mortar-style weapon mounted on that carriage would be awesome?
cough...Thudd gun...cough...
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Post by: Lone Cat
Another angle on Heavy Bolter on wheel carriage please. and tell me a bit about STANAG magazine thing meow~
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Post by: Desubot
Man Dat Auto cannon.
Also a Not Thud gun would be awesome
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Post by: RiTides
I'll third the proposal of a multi-barreled weapon
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Post by: BrookM
Yes, yes, yes, but pretty please weaponless arms for the girls first yes?
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Post by: xXWeaponPrimeXx
I need to find a way to use them heavy stubbers... on like.... everything.
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Post by: vic
BrookM wrote:Yes, yes, yes, but pretty please weaponless arms for the girls first yes? 
Universal empty rifle arms for the boys and the girls are the casters now
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Post by: Eilif
Any thoughts on whether use of the terms Heavy Bolter and Stubber will incite a GW cease and desist letter?
stanman wrote:Sweet, exactly what I need for when I want GW styled Imperial Guard but at several times the GW price.
You know this is an Australian company, right? Have you seen the prices of GW in Australia?
As for prices, these beautiful heavy weapons are a bit out of my range right now, but a Thud gun would be seriously tempting for my Squats, quite a few of whom currently have or will have Victoria laser rifles.
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Post by: BrookM
Yay! Looks like I'm going to postpone getting that second Imperial Knight and instead expand the platoon some more!
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Post by: General Hobbs
Yay! I held off doing my Arcadians when I heard about the arms. I can't wait!
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Post by: stanman
For what I'd spend on one Vic weapon platform I can get a set of the GW plastics, I get that people like alternate options but at that price I'd just get some death korps and skip the 3rd party knock offs.
I also haven't sprung for DK as they are bloody expensive. GW is already overpriced to begin with but at least it can be had at a discount from online vendors or ebay. These are priced too high for the standard player, you'd need very deep pockets to be able to afford to field enough to be worthwhile.
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Post by: Swastakowey
stanman wrote:For what I'd spend on one Vic weapon platform I can get a set of the GW plastics, I get that people like alternate options but at that price I'd just get some death korps and skip the 3rd party knock offs.
I also haven't sprung for DK as they are bloody expensive. GW is already overpriced to begin with but at least it can be had at a discount from online vendors or ebay. These are priced too high for the standard player, you'd need very deep pockets to be able to afford to field enough to be worthwhile.
In my country I am thankful for GW pricing.
To get 3 of heavy stubber weapons (the best ones) with 6 Victorian Crew is only 10 dollars more expensive than the GW alternative which is pretty crap really. Unless you like Cadians or Catachans. But even then...
So I guess it depends on where you live.
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Post by: H.B.M.C.
That heavy mortar is very nice, and I love the double stubber.
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Post by: Barzam
Any chance there'll be a more modern looking carriage or wheels for these? The Heavy Bolter's sleek, high-tech looking design clashes a lot with the archaic looking carriage and wheels.
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Post by: alphaecho
stanman wrote:For what I'd spend on one Vic weapon platform I can get a set of the GW plastics, I get that people like alternate options but at that price I'd just get some death korps and skip the 3rd party knock offs.
I also haven't sprung for DK as they are bloody expensive. GW is already overpriced to begin with but at least it can be had at a discount from online vendors or ebay. These are priced too high for the standard player, you'd need very deep pockets to be able to afford to field enough to be worthwhile.
Quite. You can get a set of plastics...that everybody else has.
For those players who can afford them or want something visually different, companies like Vic's provide us with alternatives. I can't deny that it would be expensive if you go for the whole squads but you can use GW plastics and purchase a whole bag full of heads and make your army subtly different from others. For example my Storm Troopers use pith helmet heads. Other players have used the Scion torsos on the kilted legs.
As for the new heavy weapons they are a jump up in a price that I'm willing to pay at the moment but the kilted crew set will look good manning the heavy weapons I have coming from a recent Kickstarter.
I probably have a different definition of knock off compared to you but to my mind the quality of the castings and the effort that has gone into the design makes them anything but knock offs. Vic has developed a range of sci-fi humans which, although undeniably inspired by 40K, has given players a range of options that GW can no longer afford or be bothered * to supply. GW has not continued the effort it made with the 2nd Ed metals to represent the variety its own background tells us exists within the Imperial Guard.
* delete according to point of view.
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Post by: BrookM
For GW it's simple: the Imperial Guard is not a Space Marine army, hence not worth putting as much effort into. Just compare the two codex books, one is a love letter to the faction taking the space and effort to give all big name factions something special, the other is a joke that mashes everything together with the bare minimum of effort. The knife is given that extra twist when they talk about how diverse the faction is, that no two regiments are the same, they even give you a two-page spread showing nice art of those regiments, most of which are no longer available.
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Post by: shasolenzabi
Yeah a shame that they decided to basically neglect the colorful regiment troops. it is mostly now just Cadians and Catachans, if they had plastic versions of the others, well thankfully other parties have made greatcoats and other regiments, the Tananbergs look a lot like the Mordians, so would be great stand ins, the other minis Victoria makes are also very nice factionals.
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Post by: BrookM
This is how I feel about GW's treatment of the Astra Blah-blah Imperial Guard myself..
Maybe once the female Tannenberg minis are out I'll take a stab at recreating this piece of art.
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Post by: alphaecho
I had to mention that art on my blog previously as I think it is one of the most characterful pieces of art I have seen from the 40K universe.
I've also just noticed the lasgun cells being charged by the fire!
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Post by: BrookM
In the words of the artist: "A bloodied and battered Mordian Iron Guard, who has been through hell and back."
It works as a nice companion piece to this one:
But yeah, it's one of my favourite pieces of background art ever, done for Only War by Diego Gisbert Llorens. He also did these two:
Praetorian sergeant.
Necromundan 'Lucky 7th' Trooper
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Post by: Dr Mathias
That 'Lucky 7' artwork is great. I'd love to have a squad with that look. Thanks for posting it.
I never have been happy with the way GW handled the fluff of the Necromundan PDF/Spiders etc.
I could get behind that look though... start off as gangers, then you get into the PDF/Spiders, then into the off planet IG.
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Post by: BrookM
The trooper still shows enough shades of a former life as a ganger while also looking like a veteran soldier who looks effective in the field.
The "Spyders" were the 8th regiment IIRC and the requirement for joining that one was getting a spyder tattoo on your face.
edit.
Oooh, from the same White Dwarf article from back in the day:
Mordant "Acid Dogs" sergeant
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Post by: Wyrmalla
Heh, I have an inclination to search your posts to see how many times you've posted that Iron Guard image BrookM ...but I know I'd just lose myself in the quagmire of lasses.
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Post by: Brother SRM
BrookM wrote:In the words of the artist: "A bloodied and battered Mordian Iron Guard, who has been through hell and back."
It works as a nice companion piece to this one:
But yeah, it's one of my favourite pieces of background art ever, done for Only War by Diego Gisbert Llorens. He also did these two:
Praetorian sergeant.
Necromundan 'Lucky 7th' Trooper
Wow, these are really nice. I love the artist's Osprey Books-style illustrations of these far future troopers. That Praetorian and that Necromundan are fantastic.
And the Thudd gun that's being proposed sounds like it would be another good opportunity for a neat heavy weapon. Now to find some play on "Nebelwurfer" for it...
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Post by: vic
BrookM wrote:This is how I feel about GW's treatment of the Astra Blah-blah Imperial Guard myself..
I think that is my all time favorite IG artwork, i used it as an example in my "story telling with miniatures class" thanks for posting.
Maybe once the female Tannenberg minis are out I'll take a stab at recreating this piece of art.
I've been thinking that too.....
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