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Bossk_Hogg wrote:Are there going to be any more painting tutorials for the other sets? We got one for the urban tile set, but I thought they were doing one for each theme.
Is the urban tile tutorial buried in the updates? I don't see it on the SW website.
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Ha, figures, I'm sitting here all atwitter for when mine will arrive, and work goes, 'hey, we're going to send you out of the country for two weeks starting Tuesday!' (this should be a lesson to just have things shipped to the office.)
That US backers have been getting there's fills me with hope... c'mon rolling fields, urban clean and urban ruined! You can do it!
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Post by: Da Butcha
That's kind of disappointing for people who got the display board only. Sorry to hear that.
I got the full set of 16 for Rolling Fields (well, I guess I really got 2 sets of the full 8 options) and the Scrapyard set. Holy cow, these really nice! They look fantastic at first glance. Great quality, very cool looking, but not filled with the kind of unusable, uneven terrain that GW put all over the RoB boards. The boxes are very good quality too, and I think they will serve admirably for storage and transportation for years to come (assuming I don't take a dunk in the sea or anything).
I know that the storage spacers were going to have to be redesigned (due to the boards having more variations in elevation than originally planned--which is awesome), but has anyone heard anything about them? Do we have a timeline for when they will be available, or whether backers will get sets for free or discounted? I'm very excited to paint up these boards, but not terribly excited about figuring out how to store them with foam between them when spacers are still (presumably) planned. I'm not bothered about the prospect of paying for some spacers, but I want them now!
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Post by: Azazelx
With a total of 4 16-tile sets on their way, I'm also very interested to hear about the spacers. Putting effort into painting them and then stacking them into the boxes doesn't sound too exciting...
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Post by: Aerethan
I would imagine the best option for Justin in designing them would be to take the tallest tile there is and design it around that tile with 1/4-1/2" clearance above it and simply use that single size for all the risers.
I'd also like perhaps to see a set of middle risers to store these in a 1x2 configuration to make bags/cases easier to manage without needing to get super tall, but that's just personal preference.
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Post by: Da Butcha
I'm hoping that the spacers will be able to be used with the current Tablescapes boxes, but I have to admit I'm not sure how they would fit. There's not a ton of room around the edges of the tiles, but then again, I don't have a CAD program to help me out with that!
Basically, I'm wiling to buy more foam to put between each of the tiles, but I'd rather support SWM and get spacers from them. I just don't want to buy foam, and then find out that I could have had a V-8--I mean, I could have gotten spacers. Plus, I like the idea of the spacers a lot more.
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Post by: Bossk_Hogg
BOOYAh. Took the day off work to be home when my new computer is delivered, got my rolling fields and scrap yard sets as a bonus! Maybe Shadows of Brimstone will arrive!
The tiles look amazing! I'd still love to see some more tutorials when time permits though. I also think these should sell super well at retail!
Oops, missed Mr Justin's earlier post that they were working on more tutorials - awesome!
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Quick reply - busy day.
More tutorials are coming - but it takes time to edit and format them, and time is something I don't have right now. They're a top priority... right after the other TS related top priorities 
Tile spacers will be back in the works once the backers are all shipped.
And now I'm back to number crunching. K'bye.
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Post by: kronk
Kronk got his gak today.
Looks great!
Not sure how to paint it, but currently working on 30k army for adepticon.
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Post by: Aerethan
For my Rolling Fields table I'm using the Fieldstone paint set from the PaintWorks kickstarter https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/klingbeil/game-decors-paintworks-terrainpaint
I'm airbrushing most of it. So far I airbrushed Vallejo Panzer Grey surface primer, then thinned down the fieldstone base color and laid down 2 layers of it which is solid enough to completely cover it. I tried hand brushing a small patch with a large brush to see if that would be faster, and it was not(coverage issues, bubbles, all manner of no good).
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Post by: Snrub
I've been pondering how to paint my tiles. I'm tossing up between buying a can or two of primer and spraying them or whether to just throw a load of gesso on them.
I'd airbrush them but I'm gak at airbrushing aaand... I don't currently know where my airbrush is....
Also, update.
Update #147
Oct 24 2014
AUS/NZ & UK/EU Shipping Update
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Shipping status update - AUS/NZ & UK/EU
We believe we have identified the data discrepancy that led to the AUS shipping snafu. I am having my findings reviewed, and am working with The Combat Company to confirm that our numbers (what they should have VS. what they actually have) match up this time.
The Combat Company has shipped everything that it can currently ship. If you did not receive a shipping email from them then your order is on hold. We are already working together to schedule a freight shipment for the missing items.
New Zealand orders will now be shipped from the USA. This is a bummer. Unfortunately the cost for TCC to ship is actually equal to or greater than shipping from the USA, and once we figure in freight, duties, etc. it makes more sense to ship NZ from SWM HQ. Fear not, we're still moving about 150 orders per week -- and you'll be in the queue with us shortly.
UK/EU orders are being held while we confirm tile counts. This means waiting to resolve the AUS situation so that we can be sure we have this right before we apply the same fix to the larger UK/EU list. Freight for the missing items will be arranged ASAP and shipping will begin even while that is in transit for those items that Mantic can move now. At least that's the plan today. If it changes I will post another update.
So what happened?
So you might remember that you could add additional tile sets to your order as an add-on at the end of the campaign. You could also add a TON of other stuff. That's what happened. Those additional tile sets were not included in the backer summary, and so they didn't get shipped to AUS and UK.
When TCC started shipping they very correctly included those add-on items... which hadn't been accounted for. Thus the unexpected shortage.
FEAR NOT!
I ordered a fair bit of inventory to keep on-hand for the Secret Weapon retail launch. I have delayed any public announcement of the launch, and delayed any public pre-orders, so that we can reserve this inventory to fill in the gap.
My chief concern right now is making sure we get the missing items to our shipping partners as quickly as possible.
In the interim we're still moving orders through the US warehouse, with another batch going out with FedEx today. This will slow a bit as I'm tied to my desk quintuple checking the numbers for our shipping partners, but it will continue.
My bad, moo moo!
The mistake causing us problems is a simple human error. I missed the add-on section in the tile counts that got shipped to my partners, and so too few tile sets got shipped. My apologies. I will have this fixed quickly, and it will soon be a distant memory.
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Post by: Crimson Devil
I got my tiles today, which was a surprise since i didnt get any forwarning. The tiles look great!
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Post by: Cyporiean
Did a quick and dirty paintjob on one of my sets.
Need to go back over a couple of spots, plus do some detail work and then seal them.
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Never got a shipping notice, but 16 clean urban and 8 blown the heck up urban tiles showed up at my door a half hour ago.
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I like everything I'm reading here.
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
shade1313 wrote:Never got a shipping notice, but 16 clean urban and 8 blown the heck up urban tiles showed up at my door a half hour ago.
Ooo, that gives me hope! You're in Vegas and I'm in LA... I hope mine shipped at the same time as yours!
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Post by: Azazelx
 Azazelx wrote:According to my parents, I received two boxes at different times in the post (different couriers?Aust Post delivery people?). Not unusual in itself.
One large box from somewhere in China, and one smaller box - "like a large shoebox" from Combat Company inside a plastic mailing package.
Do either of these sound familiar to anyone? I'm concerned that the Chinese box could be something unrelated and that SWM/Combat Company fethed up my order and I got the original display board set sent out instead of the "Wargamer" I upgraded to via the pledge manager...
Actually, I think I know what the Chinese box is.... 1:6 scale models. gak... I wonder how long Justin and CC will take to un feth my order.
Well, good news on my end. The large box from somewhere in China turned out to be the tiles - haven't opened them to QA them yet, but I trust they'll all be there and I can check inside later on the weekend - and the bagged box wasn't from COmbat Company, but my EMS stuff from China. Mum (75yo) got confused since she writes down what arrives at her place and rings me to leave a message - so when I was asking her to describe them for me on the phone she went and checked - and the big (tile) box had China printed on the side so she must have assumed the smaller bagged box was the Combat Company one.
Anyway - all good here. I'll have a proper look at them tomorrow, hopefully.
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Post by: Enigma Crisis
Just opened my box that got here today. I'm really enjoying the quality of them and can't wait to start painting them when I get a chance.
I do have one complaint though on the Clean Urban Streets on my Barrier tile I'm missing the pop up barrier! I looked through both boxes and I'm missing it! Was looking forward to flipping it up and down. :(
Is there anything I can do to get a replacement Barrier piece?
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Post by: Snrub
So is anyone with a rolling hills board going to fill their river bed with water effects and have it as an actual flowing river?
Coz... damn that'd look cool.
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Post by: Da Butcha
 Snrub wrote:So is anyone with a rolling hills board going to fill their river bed with water effects and have it as an actual flowing river?
Coz... damn that'd look cool.
Nope! Coz it's Gorkamorka--or the Old West, and I'm much more likely to ambush some rascals down in Dry Gulch than at the lovely river!
Although honestly, a very little bit of water effects right in the streambed wouldn't look too bad, AND it would make that area a bit more level for models. Hmmm.
Dagnabbit!
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Snrub wrote:So is anyone with a rolling hills board going to fill their river bed with water effects and have it as an actual flowing river?
Coz... damn that'd look cool.
That's my plan when I get mine!
I'll of course have to wait until I find a tutorial from someone who knows what they're doing that I can copy first. I've never used water effects or anything before.
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Da Butcha wrote:Although honestly, a very little bit of water effects right in the streambed wouldn't look too bad, AND it would make that area a bit more level for models. Hmmm.
That would look pretty damn spiff given the setting.
Schmapdi wrote:That's my plan when I get mine!
I'll of course have to wait until I find a tutorial from someone who knows what they're doing that I can copy first. I've never used water effects or anything before.
I'm interested to see what you do with it. I've used Vallejo water effects before. But never in the quantities that you'd need for e a river.
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Post by: lord_blackfang
I imagine the real trick will be getting the water levels on all tiles to line up. Best of luck to you all!
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Oh yeah... didn't think of that.
Heh. That'd be tricky.
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Snrub wrote:So is anyone with a rolling hills board going to fill their river bed with water effects and have it as an actual flowing river?
Coz... damn that'd look cool.
I certainly intend to when I get mine; not sure on the logistics of it, as pointed out, getting all the tiles to the same level will be tricky...
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Post by: Snrub
"Wow, great table you have! What is that, injection moulded plastic tiles?"
"Yes, yes it is."
"Awesome paint job too. It looks just like a real hillside landscape."
"Thanks. Took me ages to get just the right look."
"Yeah, it's really good. Too bad you COMPLETELY fethed THE WATER LEVELS THOUGH!"
"Uh..."
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Post by: Siygess
I've had some luck with pva / wood glue and the clear plastic you get from blister packs. Paint the river sections then connect them together with small sheets of blister plastic sandwiched between each tile, held in place by PVA. This will stop the water effect flowing from one tile to the next and the (dry) pva should stop the water effect from leaking out.. and because the plastic is clear you can see through it to make sure the water level matches up with the next tile.
Two things to bear in mind:
1) The blister plastic wont always peel away from the water effect once dried. Maybe some vaseline on the plastic will help with that.
2) Even if you do a great job and the water levels match perfectly, you are still going to have a line that you can see. I was able to cheat when I tried this because I was making a canal so I put a grate at one end of each river section that would filter out rubbish and drift wood and stop it flowing down river. You could perhaps do the same by ensuring that there are small rocks etc just above the water line at one edge of the tile. With the associated foam around the rocks it helps to distract the eye from the line right next to it. Heck if you are feeling super adventurous you could create a strip of rocks / foam that you could place over the join.
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Post by: Tibbsy
 Siygess wrote:I've had some luck with pva / wood glue and the clear plastic you get from blister packs. Paint the river sections then connect them together with small sheets of blister plastic sandwiched between each tile, held in place by PVA. This will stop the water effect flowing from one tile to the next and the (dry) pva should stop the water effect from leaking out.. and because the plastic is clear you can see through it to make sure the water level matches up with the next tile.
Two things to bear in mind:
1) The blister plastic wont always peel away from the water effect once dried. Maybe some vaseline on the plastic will help with that.
2) Even if you do a great job and the water levels match perfectly, you are still going to have a line that you can see. I was able to cheat when I tried this because I was making a canal so I put a grate at one end of each river section that would filter out rubbish and drift wood and stop it flowing down river. You could perhaps do the same by ensuring that there are small rocks etc just above the water line at one edge of the tile. With the associated foam around the rocks it helps to distract the eye from the line right next to it. Heck if you are feeling super adventurous you could create a strip of rocks / foam that you could place over the join.
Blister plastic eh....
I'll definitely keep that in mind! 
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Post by: RiTides
Cyporiean - I like where you're going with the paint job, but I think the surroundings need more brown soas not to clash with the riverbed.
Snrub - I've thought about that, too  . But I'll be using two tiles of mine as a Dropzone Commander display, and I think the riverbed can look like a dirty ravine / canyon much better at 10mm scale if I do not add water effects (I think water would make the mind picture the rocks as small, instead of boulders like I want).
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
Still waiting. Does anyone know if all of the US pledges have shipped yet?
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
AFAIK, they have not, but Mr. Justin promised a shipping update on Wednesday, IIRC.
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Update #149
Dude, Where's My Order?
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UK/ EU Status Update
Mantic requested some changes to the formatting of the mailing list we sent them. Those changes were made over the weekend, and the list has been sent to them for review. If this format meets their needs they will start shipping shortly. I will update again as soon as I hear back from them.
AUS/NZ Status Update
The Combat Company is sorting through orders to see if there's anything else they can ship. I will help them in that effort this week. In the interim we are looking at the logistics of getting the missing product to their warehouse. I apologize for the additional delay, and want to assure our AUS backers that every order will ship.
New Zealand orders will ship from the California warehouse. Logistically it doesn't make sense to send your inventory to AUS from California. Your orders have been grouped with the other international orders we're shipping. Those are not sorted by country, and you will ship at the same time as Canada, Mexico, China (comically enough), UAE, etc.
USA/Everyone Else Status Update
As of today 309 orders have left our warehouse to domestic backers. This has given us enough room to begin staging international orders, which means we'll be shipping international AND domestic as we move forward.
If you are a domestic backer, I recommend signing up for FedEx Delivery Manager:
http://www.fedex.com/us/delivery/
Unfortunately our system isn't playing nice with the data we got out of BackerKit, so we can't send you an automated email. Entering the email for every order manually would slow shipping for us significantly... and that's not good.
So Where's My Order?
I realize that it's difficult to be patient when people are posting photos of their orders, and I've had to announce some logistics challenges -- but every order will ship. In the interim, I ask that you please hold off on sending me an email, or message asking about your order status. Right now I'm getting 20+ of those almost every day, and tracking down order status means time not spent shipping. The lack of automated emails sucks, and I'm sorry that's the case. It's frustrating for us as well.
Orders are leaving the warehouse almost every day, and now that we have more room for staging the pace should start picking up.
Thank you all for your continued patience, and support.
Please remember: All orders will ship, and we're in this for the long-run, with great new things planned for 2015.
So, does anyone know how the orders are being prioritized for shipment? In update #145 Justin mentions that Wargamer and Double Wargamer pledges were focused on to make room in the shipping area, and at the time of that update (October 17) there were 104 boxes ready for FedEx pickup. Today's update puts the total number of pledges shipped at 309, so 200 packages were shipped in a week, which is great, but how are the remaining pledges being prioritized? Is it pledge size, delivery location, pledge order (as in when the pledge was made on KS) or something else?
Also, regarding the automated e-mails (or lack there of) is that something that will be corrected for future campaigns? Perhaps I am pissy because this long overdue campaign is urging me to continue to be patient, but Justin's message regarding holding off contacting him for order updates is as obnoxious as it is funny. In the comments section of the KS page Justin was urging people to contact him for updates just a few days ago. Obviously things changed and his mailbox blew up with inquires, but that should be expected when there is no communication from the company regarding shipping notices. The suggestion to use FedEx as a means for updates isn't useful either, as at least one poster on here reported that they received their pledge without a notification.
So, for those of us still without our pledges the only solution is patience and silence? Patience. Patience. Patience. The motto of this campaign by far. 
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Post by: ironicsilence
Kind of agree with Dark, I've seen people posting pics of there stuff arriving, in a few instances those people are getting exactly what I pledged for so would be nice to know where my order is. I can haz stuff?
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Post by: daedalus
Just received my urban sets. Oh god oh god oh god.
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Post by: darefsky (Flight Medic Paints)
Has anyone received the Temple sets yet?
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Post by: Breotan
Well, it is Monday and I have no plastic table sections. Am disappoint.
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Post by: darefsky (Flight Medic Paints)
Pictures woman! um please?
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Post by: Cyporiean
Bam!
Haven't gotten to painting them yet, maybe later this week.
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Post by: darefsky (Flight Medic Paints)
That is awesome. I can't hardly wait. We are hopefully moving to a new house with a huge basement that I could actually make a real table out of these when they get here.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Damn, I was really thinking last week was my week to "squweee!!!" with delight.
but alas, no giant boxes of plastic awesome for me.
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Post by: whalemusic360
Did the other folks who got the urban clean sets notice that some of the roads are more textured then the others? I don't think it will matter much with paint on it, but struck me as odd in bare plastic.
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Post by: Cyporiean
Came across this review of the tiles, figured I'd share it.
http://www.unrememberedlegion.com/2014/10/28/product-review-tablescapes-by-secret-weapon-miniatures/
One particularly nice aspect, is here is the Tablescapes tiles combined with one of Forgeworld's tiles:
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Post by: Aerethan
Holy hell, that is awesome.
Once I actually play a sci-fi game I'll definitely be buying some damaged streets tiles!
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Post by: Snrub
 whalemusic360 wrote:Did the other folks who got the urban clean sets notice that some of the roads are more textured then the others? I don't think it will matter much with paint on it, but struck me as odd in bare plastic.
Can't say that I've noticed that with any of my clean tiles.
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Post by: whalemusic360
You can kinda see it in Cyps pic. Look at the right middle and right bottom.
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Post by: Aerethan
That could simply be the way the light is reflecting off the bare plastic. All my rolling fields have the same texture.
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Post by: RiTides
That middle right tile looks to have very different texture (i.e. none or very little) compared to some of the others, particularly the right bottom tile, as whalemusic points out.
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Post by: Redemption
Ah, cool that it lines up with the Realm of Battle tiles. Does anyone have any pictures of the Tablescape tiles next to GW's plastic Realm of Battle tiles?
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Post by: Snrub
Does anyone have the rolling fields and the FW crashed thunder hawk?
I want to see how well the dried river bed matches up as a gouge mark to the downed Hawk.
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Update #150
Oct 30 2014
392 And Counting....
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392 orders have been packed at Secret Weapon HQ, and that doesn't count any work done today as I'm not in the warehouse to count packages.... and we're still packing orders every day.
Next week we'll shuffle the international orders into the shipping pile, meaning that domestic and international orders will ship side-by-side. Literally, as we're still limited in our staging space, even as we clear out boxes.
On Monday, 3-November I will launch the 24 tile sets for retail --- please note that ONLY the 24 tile sets will be available to the public. Why only those sets? Because the ability to order separate 16 and 8 tile sets was a Kickstarter exclusive, meaning those 24 tile sets exist only as retail stock. I will NOT be selling any 4 or 16 tile sets until the last backer has shipped.
"Wait, does that mean that a regular buyer might get tiles before I do?"
Yes, that's possible. But without positive cash flow I won't be able to keep shipping. Please remember that the campaign only covered the cost of tooling (with a tiny bit left over), and that all production, design, packaging, packaging labor, freight, AND SHIPPING are being covered by Secret Weapon.
The original plan was to ship in four separate waves, which would have meant staggered expenses, and a projected profit by the third shipment (Rolling Fields). Because I wasn't able to ship in waves, as was originally planned, and everything launched at the same time that financial burden is much heavier than it would have been otherwise.
And so I have no choice but to sell the 24 tile sets -- and only the 24 tile sets -- in order to keep the pledges rolling out the door.
"Will this slow things down for backers?"
The 24 tile sets are packed one to a box - meaning we just have to grab one, put a shipping label on it, and set it on the outgoing pile. This should not impact backer shipping in any meaningful way.
"I don't think it's fair for the public to get their tiles before backers do!"
Honestly, neither do I... but there's no other option. I have hit the limit of my ability to pay for shipping without new revenue coming in. Those 24 tile sets will solve that problem handily, and allow me to keep orders rolling out with no delay.
I know that there will be backers who are unhappy with this decision, and to them I will repeat the only statement that truly matters:
Every backer will get their order.
We've overcome every barrier to getting this product to market, and to making sure every backer order gets shipped, and nothing will stop that now. If you don't have your order yet, please remember that it's coming.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Well it's a good thing RoW orders were at least out by then... oh... right.
Ah well, more time to find money for a good airbrush.
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Post by: Breotan
Aaaaaand they arrived.
Check off one more kickstarter.
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Post by: Necros
It was an early xmas here .. got my blow'd up road tiles and my Robotech box both in the same day! Both are big and hella cool.
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Post by: darefsky (Flight Medic Paints)
Well the FedEx truck just pulled up outside of my house. I got all giddy like a kid at Christmas.......Until he walked over to my next door neighbor and handed her a package....
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Post by: Azazelx
At least Justin is delivering and able to be reasonably straightforward, unlike Games and Gears.
To be fair to them, they had a natural disaster to contend with, but they're now at double their initially projected delivery time. After multiple missed dates and such they now seem unable to write a coherent sentence in English. It's all just mangled semi-coherent overly-florid grammar filled with empty platitudes and the same few points/excuses made over and over.
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Post by: Yodhrin
Azazelx wrote:At least Justin is delivering and able to be reasonably straightforward, unlike Games and Gears.
To be fair to them, they had a natural disaster to contend with, but they're now at double their initially projected delivery time. After multiple missed dates and such they now seem unable to write a coherent sentence in English. It's all just mangled semi-coherent overly-florid grammar filled with empty platitudes and the same few points/excuses made over and over.
Wait wait wait, I've not wandered into the Raging Heroes thread by mistake have I?
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Post by: Snrub
Update #151 Oct 31 2014 Tablescapes Tutorial - Scrap Yard 4 comments 8 likes  The incredibly talented Mathieu Fontaine has provided us with another Tablescapes Tutorial -- this time a step-by-step for the Scrap Yard tile set. http://blog.secretweaponminiatures.com/2014/10/painting-your-tablescapes-tiles-scrap.html I'm working my way through the others as I'm able, but each one requires a bit of editing, and a lot of formatting -- so stay tuned for the rest of the series...
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There's a new blog post showing a painted temple and fields tile (I assume these are the next tutorials
http://blog.secretweaponminiatures.com/2014/10/tablescapes-tiles-preview.html
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Post by: RiTides
Wow, they did a great job on both of those, particularly the fields tile. Love the greenish water, looks very much like the creeks I'm used to!
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
That tall grass looks ace. Until you need to store it in a stack...
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
GAAAAAAH....pad hates giant pics!
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Post by: Alpharius
Tablet and smart phones - they'll be the death of us!
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Uh, Aplh...
Not that kind of tablets. Those can be hard to swallow.
And smart phones ought to be the death of us, if they were really that smart.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
I for one welcome our new IPhone overlords!
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Meh, I'm still waiting for mine to arrive. Even registered for that FedEx delivery manager, and they don't show anything coming to me right now. 
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Your tablescape or your iphone overlord?
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Post by: Breotan
Maybe his iPhone Overlord is playing on your Tablescapes?
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Post by: Snrub
Negative. My tablescape is safely packed away for now until I finish rejigging the layout of bedroom. You couldn't fit a razorblade in that box. Let alone a big fat iphone.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I saw someone on the Facebook group "A Wyrd Place" using this for a Malifaux game. I think it was Rolling Fields, for a badland/old west theme. Not painted, but still. They are out in the wild.
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Update #152
Nov 5 2014
Tablescapes Tutorials - Forgotten City
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http://blog.secretweaponminiatures.com/2014/11/painting-your-tablescapes-tiles.html
Here's another great step-by-step tutorial from Mathieu Fontaine, and I hope to get Rolling Fields posted by the end of the week. Stay tuned!
In unrelated news I know we packed in excess of 50 orders today, including a big batch heading up to Canada. I also spotted a couple going to Dubai, and at least one going to Taiwan. International shipping is very much underway.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Great, tutorials for all the table tiles I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE!
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
Kickstarter Update wrote:
Update #153 from Tablescapes - by Secret Weapon Miniatures
Nov 5 2014
Shipping Update - All Regions - All Themes
EU/ UK Starting Next Week
I received confirmation from Mantic this morning that they're aiming to start shipping either this week or next. Backers in the EU/ UK regions will be receiving emails from Mantic as orders go out. Stay tuned....
AUS Status
The Combat Company is reporting overages (too many of a SKU) in addition to the already identified shortages. Because neither of those things should have happened I've brought in a new data analyst to find out what happened, and get that sorted. In the interim TCC has sent me a list of the product he needs, and we'll get those sorted ASAP and figure out the freight situation.
US/Other International Orders
The first batch of international orders is leaving the warehouse this week. We've shuffled the domestic and international orders together, and are shipping both USPS and FedEx orders side-by-side.
This week we have to get all of the product in the second warehouse space moved into our actual warehouse space. We have the room now, and our temporary lease is about to expire. This means shipping will be slow this week, as we need to keep the staging area clear so we can maneuver boxes into new groups.
We've broken the 50% mark on all orders leaving the California warehouse, and can finally walk from the front door to the back without tripping over boxes.
The Official Unboxing Thread
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1084069684/tablescapes-by-secret-weapon-miniatures/posts/1028932
If you've received your tiles, and want to show off your setup, please hit the unboxing thread and share a link. Seeing tiles on tables out in the wild has been amazing -- and my thanks go out to everyone sharing their photos!
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Post by: RiTides
It's interesting to me to see zero updates for long periods, then updates every day or two... "continuing to ship" is fine, but I don't need to be notified when 50%, 60% etc of packages have shipped
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Post by: plastictrees
I think updates are often a reflection of the level of excitement/mood of the creator unless they've established a set update schedule (like Mierce or Reaper).
Hoping mine are in with the first batch of boxes that went off to Canada...
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Post by: misterjustin
That update was also partially a reflection of the daily emails I was receiving from AUS/ UK/ EU backers
Seriously though, it was taking up about an hour every day. I figured an update was overdue. People need to know what's up!
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Post by: shade1313
It's been a heck of a three week run. Got my Tablescapes on the first week, my Robotech KS stuff the second, and my DF caverns came in today.
Now I need to scratch up the pennies for the rolling fields. And save up a stash to have on hand if and when we get those trenches.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
 RiTides wrote:It's interesting to me to see zero updates for long periods, then updates every day or two... "continuing to ship" is fine, but I don't need to be notified when 50%, 60% etc of packages have shipped
I kinda do. It informs my panic about not receiving a Fedex Delivery Manager notification.
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Post by: darefsky (Flight Medic Paints)
I'm gonna cut Mr Justin a bit of slack on this one. He is busting his butt to get the stuff out the door, while answering questions on forums and the kickstarter comments thread. Dealing with folks like me who are in the middle of moving (2nd time during this kickstarter) and also running a business to keep his cash flow positive.
To Mr Justin, Good job of juggling all the chainsaws. Keep up the good work man.
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Post by: Azazelx
RiTides wrote:It's interesting to me to see zero updates for long periods, then updates every day or two... "continuing to ship" is fine, but I don't need to be notified when 50%, 60% etc of packages have shipped
...unless you're one of the people still waiting on yours. Or yours is one of the fethed up Aussie ones. Then you might be more interested from a "how long to go?" perspective.
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Update #154
Nov 11 2014
Wall/Fortification Sets -- FINAL SET FINISHED!
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One of the casualties of the Tabelscapes shipping madness was my ability to get the wall/fortification sets finalized. Well that's a problem no more! The last two sets, Rolling Fields and Forgotten City, are now finished and in master molds.
This is the first production mold for the Rolling Fields walls. We'll start making individual component molds this week for this and Urban Streets -- the only finished set still missing those.
This is a detail shot of the Forgotten City T wall -- digitally sculpted by the talented Raffa from Massive Voodoo, and then with a bit of additional weathering and touch-up before it goes into molds to ensure clean casts.
Components for the Forgotten City wall set, and two quick layouts on the prep table.
And now I'm going back under my rock to get though the work that piled up while I'm at the warehouse -- more news as I have it, for all quarters.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Got mine yesterday!!
Unboxing with my buddy after work!
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Got mine yesterday!!
Unboxing with my buddy after work!
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
Got my Secret Weapon board in!
Even though I've been playing 40k for 6 years, I'm still blown away by the sheer size of a 6x4 table.
How are people storing the tiles? I remember that there were supposed to be spacers, and something about a thin layer of foam between the layers?
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Post by: Snrub
MSP - That looks awesome. Can we get some close up shots please?
Update #155
Nov 11 2014
US Shipped International Orders - Update
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TL;DR version: We're having a LOT of trouble with USPS, and will be putting a temporary halt to international shipping while we find an alternative.
For those interested in a slightly longer version of this drama, let me open with this haiku that I just received from Brandon after USPS finally brought a truck to pick up the outgoing parcels:
USPS sucks
I'm gonna pull my hair out
Die USPS
Last week I spent almost two hours on the phone trying to get someone to send out a truck we could actually fit the boxes in. Today they finally sent a full-size container truck... that didn't have room in it for our orders. I kid you not. Three times previously they had sent normal residential mail trucks for the packages. To add insult to injury, they insist that we allow them an 8 AM to 5 PM pickup window... even though we close the warehouse at 4 PM.
Tomorrow is a holiday, so they won't be back until Wednesday this week. Those parcels are actually stopping us from consolidating the two warehouse spaces, and have created staging issues for more than a week now. I started reaching out to other services last week, and today I reached out to other companies in our market to get their input. I'll have a new shipping solution in place as quickly as possible, but it's not likely to be USPS. We've burned too many hours, gotten a crummy rate, and they're really just not geared for this.
My apologies to international backers that have already received their USPS shipment emails, and are waiting on their tiles to arrive. They're packed, and labeled, and still sitting in our warehouse....
If anyone wants to enjoy a fun rant, I can share the full story in the comments, but right now I need to take a wee little break to keep from burning down the whole building.
It's good times.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
Awesome!
My buddy just got his Dwarven Forge cavers sets in the other day (and they're still setting on the gaming table) or we would have set up our 9'x4' table of tiles last night.
Got all the tiles out and pretty pleased with them. My two concerns are:
1. there's a huge discrepancy between road textures from one tile to the next. Some of the surfaces look like they've got sand glued to them and some are almost just bare plastic. This will make painting interesting since a drybrush will pick out details in one but not the other. Hopefully airbrushing will help. Perhaps some selectively applied textured paint?
2. There are no "L" shaped road sections. This can be alleviated with a "T" butting into a "flat" section (making a parking area out of the road end that's butted into the flat) but it is a little upsetting corners cannot be made. I'm sure it has been pointed out before but it had slipped my mind in all the waiting/excitement.
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Post by: DaveC
Yep there never was an L road section it was asked for but didn't make it in it's apparently one of those designs to be done at a later date. To many T and crossroads IMO but no L but as you say easier to make a T section work as an L than the other way.
Now where are Mantic at I'd almost think they are stalling for time while they finish off MA shipping as they have now asked Justin for images of everything for packing purpose having had the tiles for nearly 2 weeks ( the first issue was with the address merge)
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Post by: Desubot
 MasterSlowPoke wrote:Got my Secret Weapon board in!
Even though I've been playing 40k for 6 years, I'm still blown away by the sheer size of a 6x4 table.
How are people storing the tiles? I remember that there were supposed to be spacers, and something about a thin layer of foam between the layers?
Your dog looks concerned.
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Post by: creeping-deth87
 Desubot wrote: MasterSlowPoke wrote:Got my Secret Weapon board in!
Even though I've been playing 40k for 6 years, I'm still blown away by the sheer size of a 6x4 table.
How are people storing the tiles? I remember that there were supposed to be spacers, and something about a thin layer of foam between the layers?
Your dog looks concerned.
lol yeah, that is one SAD looking pup. Probably thinking his human overlord will love the tiles more than him now 
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Post by: RiTides
 SlaveToDorkness wrote:Got all the tiles out and pretty pleased with them. My two concerns are:
1. there's a huge discrepancy between road textures from one tile to the next. Some of the surfaces look like they've got sand glued to them and some are almost just bare plastic. This will make painting interesting since a drybrush will pick out details in one but not the other. Hopefully airbrushing will help. Perhaps some selectively applied textured paint?
2. There are no "L" shaped road sections. This can be alleviated with a "T" butting into a "flat" section (making a parking area out of the road end that's butted into the flat) but it is a little upsetting corners cannot be made. I'm sure it has been pointed out before but it had slipped my mind in all the waiting/excitement.
 DaveC wrote:Yep there never was an L road section it was asked for but didn't make it in it's apparently one of those designs to be done at a later date. To many T and crossroads IMO but no L but as you say easier to make a T section work as an L than the other way.
Now where are Mantic at I'd almost think they are stalling for time while they finish off MA shipping as they have now asked Justin for images of everything for packing purpose having had the tiles for nearly 2 weeks ( the first issue was with the address merge)
Ugh!
However, I have made the best of my tiles that came, and will be using the two straight creek bed tiles as a display for my Dropzone Commander army which I think they will be perfect for!
Still doesn't change the fact that some of the tiles (no corner in the creek display, no "L" roads, different textured roads) aren't what people expected, though... seems to be happening frequently.
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Post by: Cyporiean
"No L roads in the base theme" has been a thing since before funding.
The texture thing is odd though, and seems to only be an issue with the streets.
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Post by: Azazelx
MasterSlowPoke wrote:
How are people storing the tiles? I remember that there were supposed to be spacers, and something about a thin layer of foam between the layers?
Neither of those things ended up becoming things that exist at this point. Sadly, I'm not sure what to do with my tiles when I do have time to paint them, since I'm going to have no realistic way to store them all without trashing the paint. I'm also disappointed to hear about the texture discrepancies on the road tiles, since those were the main thing I picked up. (no, I haven't opened or examined them properly yet.)
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
There's plenty of room in the boxes to pack sheet foam between each tile. That's what I plan to do once they're painted.
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
I just have to find 22 pieces of 13"x13" foam, I guess.
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Azazelx wrote: MasterSlowPoke wrote:
How are people storing the tiles? I remember that there were supposed to be spacers, and something about a thin layer of foam between the layers?
Neither of those things ended up becoming things that exist at this point. Sadly, I'm not sure what to do with my tiles when I do have time to paint them, since I'm going to have no realistic way to store them all without trashing the paint. I'm also disappointed to hear about the texture discrepancies on the road tiles, since those were the main thing I picked up. (no, I haven't opened or examined them properly yet.)
As an Australian that can afford to wargame I assume that you are in the 1% and could simply store them in one of your gaming pantries, or, at the very least in one of the unoccupied rooms of your servant quarters.
I may have misunderstood the Australian pricing discrepancy conversations.
So did any of the International orders go out? I wasn't sure if that update was referring to all of the ones packed so far or just a specific batch.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
It sounds like the same problem Reaper had during Bones I
Loads of product ready and packed but no way to get it collected by USPS (although they looked for alternatives they eventually had to stick with USPS due to cost and it took months to resolve for international backers)
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Post by: DaveC
Mantic have started shipping the EU orders today. Shipping is confirmed by email.
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Post by: Da Butcha
Well, to be fair, two strips of foam between each tile should prevent them from rubbing. It's not like the tiles are going to flex that much or anything.
I will be glad to get spacers, because it would let me stack them on my storage shelves neatly, but 1" or 2" wide strips of foam at each end of the tile should be enough to keep them from damaging paint (unless you have really scratchy foam, that is!).
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Post by: Azazelx
That's a lot of fething about if you have 1 set, let alone any med-largish number of tiles, though.
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Post by: DaveC
Just got UPS shipping confirmation from Mantic - 30KG of tiles! (split in 2 lots of 15KG each)
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Post by: Snrub
How many sets did you get Dave?
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Post by: DaveC
16 Tile Clean Urban, 16 Tile Temple, 16 Tile Rolling Fields and a Deadzone display board to mix into the urban set .. too much? - this was before I started to cut back on my KS spending still backing projects but for a lot lower amounts now.
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Post by: RiTides
DaveC - Same here! I've realized it's possible to support a project, but not necessarily break the bank on it
Although ironically, in searching for your Kickstarter profile right now the first comment that came up for me was this (from Kingdom Death)
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Post by: Azazelx
DaveC wrote:Just got UPS shipping confirmation from Mantic - 30KG of tiles! (split in 2 lots of 15KG each)
What ended up happening with these? I thought they were supposed to (and then set to) ship in Feb or March or something like that? Then suddenly they shipped after everything else?
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Post by: DaveC
RiTides I had to look for that in context I see it was from SDE:FK someone was messing with the total to unlock stretch goals then dropping it again (the comment was more tongue in cheek than serious). I haven't spent close to $700 on a project this year that's closer to this years total spend. No need to break the bank, I put €20 a week in a KS fund and I haven't even spent all of the current years fund yet.
I've spent and backed a lot less this year than last and in a lot of cases just put in for the minimum pledge. Zc3 and SDE:FK are my only "big ones" this year.
Azazelx: there's been a good few issues throughout WGF had a back log and the timetable slipped then there was issues with packaging. Mantic and SWM only got them about 3 weeks ago and all sets came at once rather than staggered as was the original plan.
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Post by: Azazelx
Yeah, I was following the rest of them. I just recall a whole lot of "Mantic need these by Feb, so we're getting ready to ship them!" (or March, or whatever it was) then nothing on it, followed months later by "We're going to ship to Mantic now." which made me wonder WTF happened there...
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Post by: DaveC
Ah OK got you now they needed the Deadzone tile sets that people bought as part of the Deadzone KS to ship with DZ wave 2.
I bought all mine from the SWM KS including the Deadzone set, Mantic are shipping them for SWM but are shipping them now that all the sets are finished.
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Post by: Bossk_Hogg
Craft stores sell rolls of foam that you can cut to size. Should be an inexpensive project all considered.
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Post by: Azazelx
DaveC wrote:Ah OK got you now they needed the Deadzone tile sets that people bought as part of the Deadzone KS to ship with DZ wave 2.
I bought all mine from the SWM KS including the Deadzone set, Mantic are shipping them for SWM but are shipping them now that all the sets are finished.
Ah, so the ones that were part of the DZ KS shipped with the earlier DZ waves, and Mantic are now shipping the ones that were bought in the SWM KS (along with the other themes?)
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Post by: DaveC
Yep exactly, you only got the Deadzone sets early if you bought them in the DZ KS. There is only 1 DZ tile so it was a quick and easy one to get made which is why they were able to send Mantic stock for their KS ahead of the other themes (which have 8 or 16 unique tiles)
The DZ tile made for the Mantic DZ KS should be a bit thinner than the later SWM KS one as they didn't take account of the road depth on the Urban tiles for matching the sets up when they did the initial run, this should be fixed on the later production run.
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Post by: Azazelx
OK that makes sense. It was quite confusing to see them talking about "shipping the DZ tiles now" recently without that extra information/context
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What the feth?
hm.. that's a DeadZone board. Could that have anything to do with it?
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Post by: DaveC
Azazelx wrote:What the feth?
hm.. that's a DeadZone board. Could that have anything to do with it?
Exactly that the spacers got packed with the Deadzone theme before they decided to scrap the current design. It's the only theme they come with and not every set might have them.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
I got spacers like that with my Deadzone display board (which I got about a month ago).
I ordered the urban and clean/damaged urban sets as well, got my DZ display early. Maybe because I'm in the US?
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Which KS did you buy the Deadzone display board from?
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Post by: Azazelx
Those spacers look fine to me. Which theme(s) had the height issues that prevented Justin keeping these?
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
DaveC wrote:Which KS did you buy the Deadzone display board from?
The initial offering by SW.
The damaged urban tiles probably wouldn't work with the spacers I got. At least one tile has a fairly high rubble pile.
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Post by: RiTides
Whoa...
Update #156
Nov 18 2014
Good News, Bad News....
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Hello backers! This is going to be a long update, with good news, and bad news.
Let's get the bad news out of the way first.
Bad news for everyone:
We have identified the data issue that caused a product shortage in Australia. It was not, as originally thought, a matter of overlooking the add-on items. This problem has effected all of the inventory, and we're short 342 16 tile sets in the Urban - Mixed, Scrap Yard, Rolling Fields, and Forgotten City themes. This was confirmed at Secret Weapon HQ when we boxed the last of the Urban Mixed sets, while staring at a pile of backer orders for them.
Good news for everyone:
I waited to post this update so that I could confirm the good news: Wargames Factory has agreed to waive their minimum order quantities to get the missing product to us as quickly as possible. As of this morning the Urban - Mixed production is finished, and they estimate two weeks to finish everything else and have it loaded for transport. These orders will ship without the fancy boxes, but they should be on their way to us in December. This order will also include the border/frame sets that were missed in the initial order.
This means another short delay for effected backers, i.e. anyone waiting on Urban - Mixed, Rolling Fields, and Forgotten City tiles leaving from the USA, some few in UK/EU, and customers in AUS and NZ.
Good news for UK and EU backers:
As many of you have already noticed, Mantic Games has begun shipping your Tablescapes Tiles. As I type this, 73 of 314 orders have been shipped -- or nearly 25% of them!
UK and EU backers will be receiving an email with your tracking information, so keep an eye on your inbox.
Of course Mantic is also affected by the product shortage, and aware that it's coming, so some orders will be held until the replacement inventory arrives. They will ship everything they can until they run out of product.
Good news for AUS and NZ backers:
Your orders will be the first to ship from the new stock, and this solution is actually faster than if we had tried to get freight from California to Australia. You can expect your orders in Q1 of 2015.
Good news for US/CAN/OTHER backers:
Orders leaving from SWM HQ will continue to ship, but at a reduced rate as shipping funds will have to continue to come out of the general operations budget. The money that would have paid for 100% of shipping is... not going to be there, because the distributor inventory doesn't exist for 66% of the line.
We've shipped more than 50% of the orders, and have very few remaining:
Canada: 95 orders remaining
USA: 333 orders remaining
Other International: 30 orders remaining
If you're a backer waiting on one of the missing tile sets, obviously we won't be able to ship until the inventory arrives from China. I will post an update as soon as I have information from Wargames factory on the freight situation, but you can expect your order in Q1 of 2015.
Good news for Canadian backers:
Your orders will still ship via USPS. It's not easy, and it's not pretty, but we should have the system worked out at this point. There will probably still be days where we rage at truck drivers that don't have room for our pickup... but orders will continue to go out.
This sucks. It really, really sucks.
Obviously this issue was not created intentionally. When I say it's an expensive mistake... that's an understatement. But the solution is in place, the missing product is in production, and we will continue to ship what orders we can in the interim.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1084069684/tablescapes-by-secret-weapon-miniatures/posts/1056238
The comments so far on the update are very reasonable, especially considering the news...
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Post by: Tannhauser42
That explains why mine hasn't arrived yet. Oh well, what's another delay?
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Post by: Joyboozer
I think if most project creators on Kickstarter followed Mister Justin's example, most of the comment sections would be quite similar. His communication has been honest and regular right from the start, and best of all no mention of pumped or mouth watering or any of that bs.
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Post by: TheDungen
Lo folks sorry if it's bad form to bump and old thread but my tiles has arrived and I've reviewed them and thought I'd share.
As for storing them, they come in plastic bags that would be perfect to store them in. You just have to suppress the impulse to throw those away after you unpack them.
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Post by: Azazelx
Nice review. Shame about the bent tiles. I haven't opened any of mine yet to examine them, but will be doing so in early January. Hopefully Justin is able to sort it all out.
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
Is there a base line that goes with Forgotten City? I might want to pick up a few flyer bases for Secret Weapon's black friday sale.
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Post by: TheDungen
Well there are is the ruined temple ones, but only if you're looking for beveled bases, some of the nicest kinds for some reason does not come in the roundlipped version.
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Update #157
Nov 25 2014
Winter Sale + Backer Savings
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I'm launching the big winter sale this week -- and I'll have a separate backer coupon that will post on 2-December (via email, to backers only) for additional savings, in case you miss the first few days.
This is a public sale too, so please spread the word far and wide.
Cheers!
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I hope Bag O'crap makes an appearance. I always wanted one.
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Post by: Tibbsy
Got my Tablescapes tiles last night!
No pics because I got too excited, and also have no internet at home at the moment. But I've laid out the Rolling Fields on the living room floor, and I plan to start painting them this weekend assuming the weather is ok. Love them! Can't wait to get started!
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 TheDungen wrote:Well there are is the ruined temple ones, but only if you're looking for beveled bases, some of the nicest kinds for some reason does not come in the roundlipped version.
The style of temple is pretty different but that looks like it's the closest match.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Do we have any idea how well shipping is progressing? It's been pretty quiet, and since some of us are outside of the US, we might wait a while...
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Post by: plastictrees
I just got a shipping notice for my 'sale' add on tiles (clean urban) and terrain, but not my actual pledge (ruined urban).
So I guess my pledge is delayed by the error related shortages?
What did you order Mathieu?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
A set of urban clean.
They least they could have done was ship your sale with your pledge, no?
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Post by: plastictrees
Yeah, it's a bit confusing.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
New update. The production run on the shortage is completed, shipping is to be confirmed, but lack of funds to ship is still an issue. Ah well.
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Post by: SlaveToDorkness
About the sale: why did we have to wait for a coupon until after the 20% off period to get a coupon that amounts to 20% off???!
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Post by: Azazelx
Think of it as an extended 20% period for backers, since it would obviously have been problematic for Justin to do 36-40% off.
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Update #158
Dec 4 2014
Shipping Update - All Regions - All Themes
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Stock Shortage - PRODUCTION FINISHED!
I got a note from Wargames Factory this week letting me know that all production is finished for the items we shorted. I have asked for clarification on the freight quote, but everything should be on boats shortly.
USA / Canada / Other International
We're still shipping orders out of SWM HQ. We've had to slow down due to the cash crunch, but orders are still leaving every week. The only theme we are NOT shipping is the Mixed Urban set, which was effected by the shortage.
AUS / NZ
Australia is still holding for the restock, and will likely be the first to receive product again. They will resume again as soon as the restock arrives.
UK / EU
Mantic hit the shortage wall this week, and shipping has stopped. They will resume again as soon as the restock arrives.
Next Steps
I will post another update as soon as we have the freight information so that we can all follow the ships again.
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Post by: RobertsMinis
Thankfully I got mine, 8x4 of clean and a damaged displayboard. I also got a 4x4 Deadzone board in the Mantic kickstarter. Really good stuff. So far I have painted 2x2 of deadzone.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Apparently, from the comments section, they are shipping about 10 (I think I read 11) orders a day, so they are grinding through the backlog.
Since winter promises to be cold enough to split stones, I think I might prime them using the airbrush instead of the can.
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Post by: Snrub
The rolling fields look grouse when painted up and heavily grassed.
Anyone got around to painting theirs yet?
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Post by: Tibbsy
I've painted and flocked 2 out of 16 so far...
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Update #160
Dec 23 2014
Urban Streets -- PAINTED!
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This morning I woke up to find a link to this beautiful set of the Urban Streets tiles waiting for me, and it's too good not to share!
http://40khobbyblog.blogspot.com/2014/12/secret-weapon-miniatures-tablescapes.html
John used an airbrush, of course, but he walks you through each step, and every color, in the blog post. Really beautiful work, and I hope that I get a chance to play on this table at NOVA Open in 2015!
In unrelated news, I'm still waiting on the ship information -- but the short product run has been picked up by the freight company. Stay tuned....
Damn those tiles look nice painted up. Now if only I could get around to painting mine.
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Post by: daedalus
 Snrub wrote:
Damn those tiles look nice painted up. Now if only I could get around to painting mine.
Wow. No kidding. I might inspiration for something to do while on vacation next week.
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Post by: Tannhauser42
Definitely look nice, but I'm still waiting for mine to arrive.
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Post by: RiTides
I have an odd question - I was thinking of trying to get my hands on two urban tiles for a small display board for an Infinity army. Is there some other product that would make as much or more sense for that? I don't think it's going to be possible for me to find just two tiles, and I'd like a little more elevation on parts of the display. (That said if someone Is selling an urban display, let me know although I don't think these are going to be sold after the Kickstarter unfortunately)
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Post by: Azazelx
Looks fantastic! Well done! How did you manage to differ the shading on the individual concrete slabs? Masking and airbrushing?
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Post by: PLC
No airbrush was used 
All done with spray cans and wash. Made a one square template mask and used different spray colour over base.
Took two hours to do all the board.
All up I'd say the full board took around 10 hours
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I'm guessing you mixed your own wash also? What worked best for you in that regard?
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Post by: RoninXiC
I've never really liked all the squares you'll eventually find on a 6x4 board using 12" squares.. but man this city fight table is marvelous...
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Post by: PLC
 Lockark wrote:I'm guessing you mixed your own wash also? What worked best for you in that regard?
Made a reasonably dilute oil wash using Burnt Umber and washed whole board.
When it came to rubble I used some Agrax Earthshade and Secret Weapon Concrete sparingly. Automatically Appended Next Post: Here's a quick tutorial
http://www.thefieldsofblood.com/2015/01/tutorial-painting-tablescapes-urban.html
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Update #161 Jan 6 2015 Shipping Status - Inventory Update - Frame/Border Update 5 comments 12 likes Hello backers, and a happy 2015 to all of you! Inventory Update First up, I am happy to announce that the ships have left China with our missing inventory -- and although I didn't get ship info so we could track it, I have gotten a delivery notice! The inventory for USA and Australia is due next week, and I'm hoping to get an update on the UK container shortly as well. Shipping Update We're still getting orders out of the California warehouse ever week, although we did slow during the holiday closure. With the missing inventory coming, we'll be shuffling those orders back into the queue. Australia and UK/ EU shipments will resume as soon as the inventory is unloaded, and our shipping partners can fit it into their schedule. I'll get an update on that as soon as I'm able. Shipping Status We're still shipping at a reduced rate due to the cash crunch created by the inventory shortage. It's a mess, but pledges are leaving every week. Over the past couple of months I've had several people offer to pay for their shipping in order to help out, and get their product more quickly. I have been denying all of those requests, because shipping was included in your pledge, but I had two customers point out that they were willing to solve that problem, and my saying "no" was hurting both parties. And so they paid for shipping, and their product went out. I don't like this practice. At all. But refusing to let people pay for shipping really is counterproductive. If your pledge is shipping from California, and you would like to cover the cost of shipping to get your order out more quickly, please drop me a message with your full name, and email address. I'll let you know what shipping will cost, and send you a PayPal Payment Request. Easy peasy. HOWEVER every pledge will ship, and no payment is required. This is simply a reply to those that have offered to cover shipping in order to help speed things up. Frame/Border Update The frame/border add-on sets are in this shipment, and will be shipped with this wave. All three shipping zones have enough for backers, and a few extra just in case. We will list them for resale as soon as the last backer add-on frame has shipped. MSRP TBD. HAPPY NEW YEAR! While we enjoyed a few days off for the end of year festivities, we're back in the warehouse and cranking out new goodies. I have a bunch of new releases coming out of the queue, and plenty of fun new things to show off. Of course we first have to make room for the new inventory, while also preparing the booth for Adepticon, and ramping up for con support. Weeeeeeeee! As always, my thanks to all of you for your continued support, patience, and enthusiasm. 2015 is going to be a great year. Or else Justin 'misterjustin' McCoy
Note: I underlined that sentence. I made it for emphasis, just so people wouldn't miss it.
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Update #162
Jan 15 2015
Australia / New Zealand - SHIPPING UPDATE
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Good news backers!
I was waiting on an update on the ships, and instead got this from Russell at The Combat Company:
"I was able to get 99% of what was left out yesterday and the dispatch list is looking a much healthier green. Attached."
This includes orders to New Zealand. There are still a few things left to ship, and I'm going through his dispatch list now, but that should be the bulk of you.
I still need to send out the walls -- and I'll have an update on that soon -- and it looks like a few folks will be missing a Display Board or two. Whatever is missing, we'll have it corrected in short order.
For everyone else....
No word on the UK shipment yet, but the US shipment is due at my warehouse next week. I'll post updates as I have news, of course. Stay tuned!
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Post by: Tibbsy
Just out of curiosity who here on Dakka is still waiting for their board?
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Post by: Pete Melvin
I wish I had backed this now instead of Games and Gears http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/520449.page
Not that I like these any better, its just that there seems to be a chance I'd actually get my boards instead of the mess that G&G have created with their half-truths and outright lies. I am less than pumped. Seriously considering asking for a refund.
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Post by: Sining
I'm still waiting for my board. Curious how long it'll take though
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Post by: Siygess
Also waiting for my display board.
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Post by: darefsky (Flight Medic Paints)
Still waiting on mine as well, but I did send Mr Justin a message on the kickstarter forms telling him that I was in no rush when I changed my address two months back.
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Post by: optimusprime14
Still waiting for mine as well
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
No board still.
But I don't care, cuz I just got my Dreamforge stuff.
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Post by: Ignatius-Grulgor
Got to play on a ruined city (think it was damaged urban streets) in last weekends apoc game, to be honest I'm sort of glad I didn't get in on it now as I was leaning toward the damaged streets. The tiles, whilst pretty, are a nightmare for actual gaming. The non-ruined sections are fine, (it seems he got clean urban streets too), but anything with rubble sections seems tailor made to make anything on a base smaller than a large oval fall over, (and even then I didn't dare stand my flyers on it).
They clip together wonderfully though, and packing them away at the end was a lot easier than the RoB boards. Still tempted by the rolling fields board since it doesn't look as heavily 'terrained' as some of the others, and some of the painted pictures are just gorgeous, just a shame the board did more damage to my daemonettes than the enemy.
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Post by: PLC
Completed table with buildings
http://www.thefieldsofblood.com/2015/01/tablescapes-imperial-sector-table.html
Lots of pics showing what a good base the Tablescapes product is.
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Post by: Schmapdi
That looks fantastic. I'm still waiting on my piddly little display board to ship :/ I was told in November it was one of the ones unaffected by the various shortages, but the funding crunch must have hit shipping hard. As I've still heard no word on it shipping 3 months later.
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Post by: Mymearan
 Ignatius-Grulgor wrote:Got to play on a ruined city (think it was damaged urban streets) in last weekends apoc game, to be honest I'm sort of glad I didn't get in on it now as I was leaning toward the damaged streets. The tiles, whilst pretty, are a nightmare for actual gaming. The non-ruined sections are fine, (it seems he got clean urban streets too), but anything with rubble sections seems tailor made to make anything on a base smaller than a large oval fall over, (and even then I didn't dare stand my flyers on it).
They clip together wonderfully though, and packing them away at the end was a lot easier than the RoB boards. Still tempted by the rolling fields board since it doesn't look as heavily 'terrained' as some of the others, and some of the painted pictures are just gorgeous, just a shame the board did more damage to my daemonettes than the enemy.
This is what I was afraid of, bummer that my misgivings were correct. They look very cluttered indeed.
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Post by: RiTides
Wow, amazing work bringing that table to life! Looks so real, probably more than any city board I've ever seen. Well done!
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Post by: PLC
Here a picture to give you an idea
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Post by: Desubot
Way past cool. though i feel it could use more scatter terrain to block those fire lanes (like busted rhinos or whatever)
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Post by: Azazelx
Fantastic work there. Schmapdi - might be worth dropping Justin an email if it was one of the items not supposed to be affected?
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Post by: Snrub
That's an insane looking table PRC. Would love to play on something like that. Great work!
Any ideas how many hours it took in total?
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Post by: PLC
I'm guessing the buildings took about 10 hours to build and 20 hours to paint. Along with 12 hours for table - probably 50 hours total.
And yes now scatter terrain - land raider, rhinos as suggested
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Post by: Snrub
Update #163
Jan 28 2015
Shipping Update - US/UK/AUS - All Regions - All Themes
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US Update
The US container has been delayed by the congestion at the Port of Oakland. Although I'm still waiting on that product, we are still shipping the inventory that we already have. I'll sort through the shipping manifest as soon as I can free up some time and update folks on how many orders still need to go out.
UK Update
The UK container is due to be delivered on 28-January. I will post another update as soon as the team at Mantic lets me know what their shipping schedule is likely to be.
AUS Update
AUS shipping is complete. If you do not yet have your product, or there was an issue with your order, please send me a message. If you are waiting on your wall/fortification set, please see below.
Wall/Fortification Update
The wall/fortification sets have all started shipping. I'll get some photos of the finished sets posted as soon as I have some time, but with convention season ramping up again things are... a wee bit nuts.
Border/Frame Update
These are included in the recent shipments from China, which means that AUS backers should have them, and US/UK/etc. backers will see them go out in the next wave.
Thank you!
There's not a lot of news today, but as folks were asking for an update I wanted to be able to share what little I had.
Until next time, happy hobbying!
Good news all round then?
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Post by: Kimchi Gamer
You sir, are quite the arteest!
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Post by: Snrub
Update #164
Feb 7 2015
Shipping Update - All Regions - All Themes
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I finally have news for you!
UK/EU
I just got off of the phone with Mantic. They have received their stock, and will resume shipments on Monday. A few parcels actually left today, so some of you likely got your UPS notice.
USA/Other
We received out stock yesterday, and got it sorted. We never stopped shipping, of course, but we will now be able to resume shipping for the shorted orders.
AUS
There was a shortage of Display Board sets in AUS, and we are working to correct that presently. Your order will either be on a container in March, or leave from California ASAP.
Border/Frame Sets
These are in the new stock sets, and will ship with the current round of orders.
Wall/Fortification Sets
Production molds are finished, and sets have begun shipping. I'll post photos just as soon as I find some time to breathe. Con season is officially here, and things are hopping!
Thank you!
My thanks, again, to everyone that has helped us make this product a reality. My apologies to those of you that are still waiting. We're moving as quickly as we can, and product is leaving every week.
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Update #165
Feb 18 2015
Status Update - All Themes - All Regions
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UK/EU Backers
Mantic is down to the last ten orders, and then we're all wrapped up! Wonder of wonders!
AUS/NZ Backers
We still have a few open orders in AUS/NZ that we're working with The Combat Company to close. I'll be including some Display Boards with his next shipment, and that should be the last of it. For those of you waiting on order corrections, we have a list now, and we'll be sorting those orders this month.
USA/Other Backers
We're still shipping every week, and I got the updated register last week that shows:
International: 122 orders remaining
Domestic: 244 orders remaining
These numbers are a bit deceptive, however, as they include Deadzone orders that were previously shipped, $1 backers that don't get a reward, t-shirt backers, etc. Realistically we probably have a total of approx. 200 domestic orders remaining.
How long will it take?
We're shipping about 20 orders per week right now - give or take - so we're estimating about 10-15 weeks to finish shipping. That's still much longer than we'd like, and so we'll ramp up when and where we can.
If you'd like to help cover your shipping, please drop me a message with your email address, and I'll get you a quote. Backers that cover their shipping will have their order shipped right away.
In the interim... we'll be getting ready for Adepticon in Chicago next month, and I hope to see many of you there! The tiles will be on display, of course, and I'll be teaching six classes over the weekend, and hosting a Manhattan bar one night.
THANK YOU!
I will never be able to thank all of you enough for your patience, support, and sustained enthusiasm. This has been one heck of a ride!
Will there be another Kickstarter? Probably. Not soon! It will also be a VERY different, single theme campaign. But not soon. So not soon!
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Post by: Siygess
Um, that's a little worrying! While it's possible that I *could* be one of those last ten orders to be shipped from Mantic with my 2x2 Display Board, I am starting to get the feeling that my order has been 'lost'.
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Post by: RiTides
 Snrub wrote:
Realistically we probably have a total of approx. 200 domestic orders remaining.
How long will it take?
We're shipping about 20 orders per week right now - give or take - so we're estimating about 10-15 weeks to finish shipping. That's still much longer than we'd like, and so we'll ramp up when and where we can.
If you'd like to help cover your shipping, please drop me a message with your email address, and I'll get you a quote. Backers that cover their shipping will have their order shipped right away.
Wow, that's an extremely slow shipping rate. They must be doing that to spread out the cost - they mention that if you cover your shipping they'll ship immediately.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
That's fine. With the month-long cold-snap we're having I could prime it or anything.
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Post by: Azazelx
 RiTides wrote: Snrub wrote:
Realistically we probably have a total of approx. 200 domestic orders remaining.
How long will it take?
We're shipping about 20 orders per week right now - give or take - so we're estimating about 10-15 weeks to finish shipping. That's still much longer than we'd like, and so we'll ramp up when and where we can.
If you'd like to help cover your shipping, please drop me a message with your email address, and I'll get you a quote. Backers that cover their shipping will have their order shipped right away.
Wow, that's an extremely slow shipping rate. They must be doing that to spread out the cost - they mention that if you cover your shipping they'll ship immediately.
Justin must be suffering from some pretty severe cash flow issues right now. Great job, WGF!
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Post by: RiTides
Well, these last orders are from the batch that SWM had forgotten to order, and WGF let them make a new order for below their minimums, right?
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Post by: Azazelx
Little condolence to how many months of not being able to sell the product worth of turnover, and having their lunch eaten by the GW Urban table of Skulls board, etc. The chain of WGF's months of feth ups/overpromising and underdelivering certainly makes allowing SWM to make a smaller than usual order far less of a generous gesture in context.
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Post by: Snrub
Ok, conspiracy fun time.
Azazelx wrote:having their lunch eaten by the GW Urban table of Skulls board, etc
Azazelx wrote:The chain of WGF's months of feth ups/overpromising and underdelivering
Did GW pay off WGF to feth over SWM so they could get their own (frankly fething terrible) urban board? 
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
No, but with the way things at WGF were progressing, anyone with an internet connection (so only at home for GW people) could have had an ear to the ground regarding the new hotness and brought a product to market faster.
Not necessarily a better product, but a product nonetheless.
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
In the end, though, the SWM board is still cheaper and better.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Yes, but we have to ween some people off the teet first. If SWM had come to a virgin field, it might have been easier.
Wait... how much does the Urban Skull Board go for?
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Post by: Azazelx
Snrub wrote:Ok, conspiracy fun time.
Azazelx wrote:having their lunch eaten by the GW Urban table of Skulls board, etc
Azazelx wrote:The chain of WGF's months of feth ups/overpromising and underdelivering
Did GW pay off WGF to feth over SWM so they could get their own (frankly fething terrible) urban board?
I doubt that would have happened, but since GW has become more of a reactive company since Chapterhouse, I wouldn't put it past them seeing the KS (and the G&G one) in production and deciding to accelerate putting their own product into the market, as it's more or less a natural extension of their existing ROB board.
 Mathieu Raymond wrote:Yes, but we have to ween some people off the teet first. If SWM had come to a virgin field, it might have been easier.
This. The GW board was out for several months before the SWM one was, so I'm sure that no small amount of people who might have bought a SWM already bought a Realm of Skulls board in the interim - and most people aren't going to buy 2 or 3 different urban boards...
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Post by: kronk
Does anyone know of any how-to painting videos for the tablescapes? I've seen a few blogs, but no videos.
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Post by: Aerethan
As a side note, since I've dropped Warhammer games altogether, I'm selling my 4x8 rolling fields table. http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/637078.page
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Post by: Snrub
Update #166 For backers only.
Feb 25 2015
EU/UK Backers -- Please Read
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If you are in the EU/UK shipping zone, and have NOT received an email from me, or Mantic, please send me a message immediately.
We're down to six remaining orders, and all of those people have been contacted. If you're not one of them, then we're missing your order.
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Post by: Siygess
Hah! Well, nuts.
That would be me, then
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I'm somewhat miffed that we share the longest unpatrolled border and are considered "international." But that's neither here nor there.
The thaw might come by the end of the month of March... I might be able to prime it if I get it by then.
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Post by: Desubot
Man i would of been on that like ugly on an ape if it was the city one :( Im local too
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Post by: Snrub
Update #167 For backers only.
Mar 3 2015
UK/ EU Backers - REMAINDER STOCK FOR SALE
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Mantic has remaindered stock - BUY IT NOW!
Mantic needs to clear up the space in their warehouse, and before they pick it up for demos and samples, we're giving you a chance to expand your boards. Those 8 tile sets will NOT be available in the retail wave, so this is an exclusive, limited time, limited quantity opportunity.
First come, first served. Sorry.
Limited stock means that I'll process orders in the order I receive them, and when something sells out, that's the end of it. For now, obviously. We're still aiming to have stock on the shelves this summer. In the interim....
How to buy:
Send an email to jmccoy@secretweaponminiatures.com with this subject:
YOUR NAME - Tablescapes Buy
In the body of the email, please include the description, taken from below, of what you want. I will send you a PayPal payment request. Once that clears, we'll pull the inventory for you. There is a fixed $10 per parcel shipping cost.
What do we have?!!?
SCRAP YARD 16 tile set @ 3 ($200/ea)
SCRAP YARD 4 tile Display Board set @ 8 ($80/ea)
ROLLING FIELDS 4 tile Display Board set @ 4 ($80/ea)
MIXED URBAN 8 tile expansion @ 20 ($100/ea)
MIXED URBAN 16 tile set @ 20 ($200/ea)
DAMAGED URBAN 16 tile set @ 10 ($200/ea)
DAMAGED URBAN 8 tile expansion @ 30 ($100/ea)
DAMAGED URBAN 4 tile Display Board set @ 5 ($80/ea)
CLEAN URBAN 8 tile expansion @ 30 ($100/ea)
DEADZONE 16 tile set @ 5 ($200/ea)
DEADZONE 4 tile Display Board set @ 10 ($80/ea)
FORGOTTEN CITY 8 tile expansion @ 10 ($100/ea)
FORGOTTEN CITY 4 tile Display Board set @ 5 ($80/ea)
Order now - this will move quickly!
That's the full extent of the remaindered inventory, and what isn't sold by Monday 16-March will get picked up by Mantic for demo and sample usage.
GO! GO! GO!
Wait... you don't have your TILES?!!?
If you are a backer in the EU/ UK region, and you do not have your TILES please message me immediately. We do have some emergency backer stock set aside, but at this point everyone in the UK/ EU should have received their tiles. Your walls are still coming.
Thank you!
I'll be back next week with an update for Adepticon - because of course we'll be there with tiles AND WALLS to show off. We will also have a VERY limited stock of 24 tile sets for sale.
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Post by: Siygess
Tempting. Does anyone know exactly which tile layouts you are going to get in those "expansion" bundles?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
For backers only?
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Post by: kb_lock
Apparently the combat company in aus still has a lot of this that they aren't allowed to sell until the kickstarter is finished.
I just ninjad a set from ebay, i think it is missing all the clips and stuff though. Hopefully we can buy them separately in the future.
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Post by: kb_lock
Holy gak these sets are amazing.
Now to figure out how I am going to paint them.
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Post by: Dark Severance
Too bad it is UK/EU, I would have easily bought 1 Damaged Urban 16 tile set and a Clean Urban 8 tile expansion.
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Post by: Azazelx
kb_lock wrote:Apparently the combat company in aus still has a lot of this that they aren't allowed to sell until the kickstarter is finished.
I just ninjad a set from ebay, i think it is missing all the clips and stuff though. Hopefully we can buy them separately in the future.
Didn't Mantic just sell off a bunch of their excess SWM stock?
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Post by: Joyboozer
I think that was to make room. Most likely for Mantic kickstarter number 3246898
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Post by: Josey4u
This. The GW board was out for several months before the SWM one was, so I'm sure that no small amount of people who might have bought a SWM already bought a Realm of Skulls board in the interim - and most people aren't going to buy 2 or 3 different urban boards...
... raises hand..
You have NO idea how much me and my gaming crew have thought this same thing. The skulls just don't do it for us. We covered them up with water and made it a marsh.
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I want to ask,
We are looking to get one. So if you don't mind could some GENCON veterans enlighten us?
Do we get one now, and still wait what, how long to get it?
Or take the cash to GENCON and get one at a good deal on the spot and take it home?
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Post by: DarkTraveler777
 Josey4u wrote:
We are looking to get one. So if you don't mind could some GENCON veterans enlighten us?
Do we get one now, and still wait what, how long to get it?
Or take the cash to GENCON and get one at a good deal on the spot and take it home?
Not a GENCON vet, but I do own both urban boards. The packaging for the boards is large enough and heavy enough that transporting it home may be a problem. If you are local to the convention or driving to the convention with enough space in your vehicle to accommodate a box the size of a small/medium microwave, you will be fine. If you are flying, or crammed into a sardine can of a vehicle with other people, getting the boards home may be difficult.
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Post by: Snrub
If it helps at all.
The box has dimension of 34cm x 35cm x 32cm and with 24 tiles it weighs roughly 8kg.
So if my conversions are right then in Imperial measurements that's roughly 14in x 14in x 13in and weighs ~16lbs
So It'd get uncomfortable if you have to carry it for any length of time.
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Post by: Josey4u
The guys. Anyone order a table recently? I'm wondering what the turn around is now. I fired off an email to them to see what I could expect
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Post by: Sining
I'm still waiting for my KS stuff to arrive. So I'm guessing turn around is about 2yrs ++?
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Post by: Breotan
Sining wrote:I'm still waiting for my KS stuff to arrive. So I'm guessing turn around is about 2yrs ++?
Really? I got mine when the big shipment happened. Have you contacted them?
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
They ran out of shipping money, so had to switch to shipping when they could afford it using 'spare' cash generated from general SW sales
I don't think they've officially finished yet
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Post by: Cyporiean
 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:They ran out of shipping money, so had to switch to shipping when they could afford it using 'spare' cash generated from general SW sales
I don't think they've officially finished yet
Shipments from UK & AUS are done, it's just the ones shipping from the US end that are not yet done... But are nearly done from what I understand.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Damn, this is making me nervous. I haven't received a shipping notification or anything.
Does he respond to KS messages?
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Post by: Cyporiean
Mathieu Raymond wrote:Damn, this is making me nervous. I haven't received a shipping notification or anything.
Does he respond to KS messages?
Canada is shipping from the US end, so it probably just hasn't shipped yet.
You can get ahold of him via the Kickstarter, but keep in mind he is at Adepticon this weekend.
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Post by: Azazelx
Josey4u wrote:This. The GW board was out for several months before the SWM one was, so I'm sure that no small amount of people who might have bought a SWM already bought a Realm of Skulls board in the interim - and most people aren't going to buy 2 or 3 different urban boards...
... raises hand..
You have NO idea how much me and my gaming crew have thought this same thing. The skulls just don't do it for us. We covered them up with water and made it a marsh.
Sure. I'm the same. Do you think we're the majority, though? 'cause we're not.
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Post by: Joyboozer
I carved out some of the Tablescapes tiles for conversions and there were skulls in the plastic!
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Post by: Valhallan42nd
Justin is great at communication. Send him something, and he'll get back to you.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
He didn't yet, but since it was Adepticon, I'm willing to cut him a few weeks' slack.
Cuz I'm chill like that.
Ok. I can't. Intentionally trying to sound cool and hip like that is just not me. *sigh*
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Post by: Schmapdi
I'm still waiting on mine too - I forget when the last update was that said it could be 10-15 weeks before they got them all shipped out. But I remember thinking "geesh that'll be like late March."
So I'm being patient, but might contact them if mid-April rolls around and I still haven't heard anything.
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Post by: RiTides
Maybe sales from AdeptiCon will let them get the last ones shipped, it is a bummer to be selling them before sending to those who have already paid.
I did get to meet Justin at AdeptiCon, which was really cool 
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Post by: Schmapdi
As if by magic - my board arrived today!
I never got a shipping notice or anything. So people still waiting - your goodies might be closer than you think.
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Post by: plastictrees
I wish I had known that shipping was an issue, I would have paid extra to have my KS boards shipped along with the boards I added later. As it is I've had half the table for about 5 months and still waiting on the original boards.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Mr Justin responded to me. It was straight and to the point. I like it. Hasn't shipped yet, but at least someone else doesn't have their grubby hands on my board.
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Post by: BrookM
Makes me feel bad that my store has two boxes on sale while pledgers are still waiting on theirs to arrive.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Dude, with all due respect, children are starving in Africa.
I'm ok with waiting. I've been going full steam on my other projects. Do you know how long it takes to assemble and convert 100 conscripts? Let alone paint the buggers?
But to piss off my WAAC friend, it is priceless.
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Post by: Azazelx
Is Adepticon finished yet? I'm hoping that Justin can get the last of the backer sets done and out the door so he can start making actual money off these. He (and by extension, we) sure got fethed over by WGF.
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Post by: Cyporiean
Azazelx wrote:Is Adepticon finished yet? I'm hoping that Justin can get the last of the backer sets done and out the door so he can start making actual money off these. He (and by extension, we) sure got fethed over by WGF.
Yeah, it ended last Sunday.
From what I understand there is still a few more weeks of shipping to go.
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Update #169
Apr 9 2015
It's a shipping update!
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Things have been crazy at Secret Weapon HQ, but I do have a shipping update for you!
Orders remaining:
Domestic 137
International 28
Canada 76
We're making progress every week, with another 22 domestic and 7 Canadian orders today. I know we shipped two to Singapore last week, and other international orders have obviously been moving.
At this point any backer in AUS/NZ or EU/UK should have everything except for their walls. I know there are a couple of you in both regions still holding for an update -- and we'll keep on that via email.
I am still very much hoping to be finished with all backer shipping by the end of May. Everything is focused on that at this point.
As a couple of people have asked, I also want to clarify a couple of points on what happens when a backer helps with the cost of shipping:
1) Your order ships immediately with the next round of weekly pledges
2) This does not impact the other orders in any way, shape, or form. If we were going to ship 22 orders this week, and 2 people pay for shipping, then we ship 24 orders. Easy peasy!
Also, what about those walls?
The crew has been shipping the Rolling Fields wall sets, and I'll be in the warehouse over the next couple of weeks to help get the other themes out the door. We've shipped a few of the others, but the production process on these is INCREDIBLY slow, and we're working to correct that. Giant molds are giant though, and there's only so much room in our big tanks.
That's really that at this point. We're almost finished. Finally.
So what if you're the last backer to ship? Oh, there will be goodies, and a celebration. True story.
More news when I have it, and as always my thanks go out to everyone involved in this campaign. I have really loved seeing photos of painted sets, and it was great being able to talk to so many of you at Adepticon. Thank you so much!
And now, back to it...
Justin 'misterjustin' McCoy
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I like that Canada is not domestic (clearly not) but is not international either.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
So I got my boards last night. Urban Street. The clips fit very snugly, it's very thin so I can pad it with foam layers once I am done painting. I'm just a tad disappointed that on quite a few, I can see the injection point has caved in a bit, and the circle pattern is present on some.
Is it nice? Yes, I hope I can camouflage some of it with paint, and at least it's not covered in skulls.
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
Do we know when the display frames will ship?
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Post by: Cyporiean
Send a message on the Kickstarter?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Yeah, Justin answers those really fast. He's good like that.
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Post by: Snrub
Update #170
Apr 25 2015
The End Is Nigh
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Here we are, nearing the end of our journey. Finally.
Word from the shop is that the pile of outgoing orders is now a wee, tiny little thing. I'll have an exact update when I get back from ReaperCon in a couple of weeks -- but I didn't want to leave you all without word for that long.
AUS/NZ/UK/EU - Border/Frame?
If you are in AUS/NZ/UK/EU and have NOT received your border/frame set, please contact me. At this point everything in those regions should be done...
EXCEPT FOR THE WALLS
The wall sets are leaving from California, and the crew is still working to get those produced. We're shipping them as quickly as we can make them, and they're usually still warm when they get packed. True story.
USA/CAN/OTHER
We're down to the last few orders, and still shipping every week. Orders waiting on walls, or border/frame sets are still shipping as well. The crew has been focused on tile sets though, and we'll crank out any of the other goodies in a rush once the last big box ships. If you have walls, or a border/frame set, AND you're waiting on tiles then it SHOULD all ship together.
Thank you again!
This has been an... adventure. Truly. Thank you all again for your support, patience, and enthusiasm. I can't tell you how happy I am to have had your help in making the product a reality. I'll place a new retail stock order in June, and the Tablescapes Tiles will officially be on the market in a big way. I couldn't have done it without you.
Today, however, I need to get back to sculpting for all of those new base sizes, and start packing for ReaperCon. If you're going to be in Texas for the show, please say hello.
Happy hobbying,
Justin 'misterjustin' McCoy
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Post by: Kimchi Gamer
I think this Kickstarter should be a case study on why you should not offer free shipping. Especially large, heavy objects. ESPECIALLY internationally.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I paid for shipping. I think. Didn't we?
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Post by: DaveC
No there was no shipping charge for any backers no matter where they lived the pledge level cost all we paid. The only exception was when they ran out of funds to ship and offered backers the option to pay the shipping cost so their stuff got shipped straight away but this was always an optional fee shipping was no extra if you were prepared to wait.
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Post by: Pacific
Hoping someone who has one of the Tablescape tile sets can answer a quick query of mine.
In terms of how the tiles clip together on the back, how solid is this connection?
Specifically, do they hold together under their own weight? I was hoping to put the table on top of a table that's about 4'x4', so you would have about a 1ft overhang on either side. Is this feasible?
Also, what are peoples general feelings on the overall quality of the board? Was thinking of getting the 'damaged urban streets' one.
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Post by: Tibbsy
It's pretty solid but I certainly don't think they're strong enough to overhang by the length of a whole tile. They'll probably overhang by about half a tile comfortably but overhanging right from the join is just asking for trouble. I haven't properly tested this but the engineer in me says it needs support
As to quality, they're fantastic. Of the ones I have (damaged streets, clean streets and rolling fields) the damaged streets are the most detailed and the detail is brilliant; but I prefer the clean streets, as I think sometimes the rubble/damage makes the other ones difficult to place models/terrain on.
Rolling Fields I think are my favourite overall for the sake of flexibility, as they're much more scale-neutral.
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Post by: Breotan
I'm sorry to hear about fulfillment issues. The boards are really nice, though, and well worth purchasing.
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Post by: kb_lock
 Pacific wrote:Also, what are peoples general feelings on the overall quality of the board? Was thinking of getting the 'damaged urban streets' one.
I have that one, they are absolutely brilliant. I was tossing up between that and the RoB from GW, but while the perfectly fitting buildings is handy, I really hate the over the top stupid grimdark parts of theirs. The SWM boards are really good, hopefully I have them painted this millennium
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
I got my display frame in finally, and it's definitely not worth the wait. It feels pretty flimsy and I won't be comfortable walking around a tournament with it. Has anyone made a stable way to use it or built their own frame?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Preaching for (not to) my own choir, but a masonite square with a nice wooden frame (moulding) that you finish yourself would probably look nice.
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Post by: MasterSlowPoke
Of course that would be ideal, but I got this as something that can travel well in checked luggage.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Ah, yes. I see. Air travel is the farthest thing from my radar, I never even considered. Sorry.
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Post by: kb_lock
Does anyone have a solution for the lack of stacking clips? Can we 3d print them or something?
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Post by: Talys
MasterSlowPoke wrote:Of course that would be ideal, but I got this as something that can travel well in checked luggage.
A friend of mine glued the 1x1 SWM tiles in 4's onto plywood to make 2x2 tiles (making them essentially the same format as Real of Battle boards). As much as it's nice to have the flexibility of rearranging 1x1's, 2x2's just work better for us on the tabletop. They have more weight, don't shift, you don't need the little jigsaw things, etc. Plus, plywood is more grippy to whatever table is below.
The problem with air travel is always that they're *really* rough with stuff you check. I think you'd need some kind of custom case with tons of protection to safely transport these as a matter of casual/airline travel.
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Post by: kb_lock
kb_lock wrote:Does anyone have a solution for the lack of stacking clips? Can we 3d print them or something?
Bumping for more ideas
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