Weakness can be removed. As we ply the stars we will carve it like a cancer from the flesh of the Imperium. The heretic and the traitor are weak of mind and of faith. Their life is ours to extinguish. To allow them respite is to invite their weakness to spread, to fail is unthinkable. Purge the Weak.

Welcome to the home thread of the Sons of Medusa Clan Mageara's Fifth Battle Group. This project started out as an army for the Bell of Lost Souls Badab War campaign book and what would have ultimately been a full blown campaign at what was then Battleforge Games in Austin, Texas. Unfortunately, I ended up moving away prior to the campaign getting off the ground, but I was able to get some of the army featured in the actual campaign book that Bell of Lost Souls put together. In the end, I was left with what would end up being one of the most complete and developed army I'd ever worked on, and something truly special that constantly keeps me interested. A legacy project.

In the following pages, you can find the slow but sure development of the entire force. They are full of work in progress images, ideas, and finalized models. There are also links embedded within many that will redirect to my website, The Painting Corps. Many of the links will take you to a more elaborate breakdown on the techniques involved, the recipes for various parts of the models, and just a touch more insight into what else went into the model. Digging through the entirety of this thread should give you a better understanding as to just how I've gone about everything for the army, and really how long it has taken me to get the army built how I have wanted it.

I hope you enjoy the thread as much as I have enjoyed sharing the process with you all. It's always a privilege to have people read what I have to say, and I appreciate every view. Thank you for taking the time out of your day, night, morning to see what I've been up to!

-Aaron

Links of interest:
Sons of Medusa Gallery

Original Test Marine
Desert Support Test Marine

Captain Proetus
Master of the Forge
Servitor with Heavy Bolter
Venerable Dreadnought Perseus
Dreadnought Perses
Assault Terminators. TH&SS
First Completed Tactical Marines
Second Tactical Marine Batch
Missle Launcher Marine
Tactical Razorback

Desert Support Squad
Desert Support Razorback
Desert Support Attack Bike
Land Raider

Strike Cruiser 'The Might of Heracles'

Early Army Shot
Army Photo Shoot

Battle Imagery: Vs. Ultramarines


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WIP of A Son of Medusa:



My first model for my Badab War Campaign army, the Sons of Medusa.

I really need to get a new white primer, the one I have is pretty much garbage.

Now, if I could find Scorpion Green in a spray can.....

Looks good so far! Don't forget the red eyes. I played Sons of Medusa in 3rd edition. Never ran into someone else who did. Eventually sold the army. How many points do you have planned?

And here I was thinking of doing a small SoM force myself. Now they're sure to pale in comparison.

I look forward to seeing this progress.

SoG

Ok this is taking a little bit....But the results so far are worth it ^_^.



Grundel - I'm actually considering doing yellow eyes ^_-. As for points, we'll see. I'm just going to get this first 500 or so painted and go from there!

SoG - I would love to see your take on the Sons! We can swap notes.

waht wash did you use?

Well I made some more progress. It's very slow going x.x...but hopefully I learned a few things here and there so far to make it go a bit smoother next time around.

Here is where we stand at the end of the night:



enmitee, I used Thraka Green for the armor and painted back up to scorpion green.

Looking pretty good. Whats most important to me, is that its easily recognizable as something other than a Salamander. The bright green really turned out nicely. Some of the details on the bolter (i.e. the eagle) seem to be getting lost, but Im assuming thats due to the white primer?

Since its a test model, I suppose youll keep the base the way it is, more elaborate bases would be cool tho.

PS: The yellow eyes work! Id continue with those!

awesome grey!! I wanted to do SoM but you beat me to it! I'm liking the green. I guess I'll stick with the idea of doing "the purge". green also but I like em cause they sound like an 80's punk band haha!

Flachzange wrote:
Since its a test model, I suppose youll keep the base the way it is, more elaborate bases would be cool tho.

I like the base color. Rim it in black and you have a very nice frame for a green figure.

Looking very nice, Grey! Very attractive scheme, and you've pulled it off well. I'd like to see how you're going to do battle damage for this army, if at all. Badab War being what it was, seeing some damage on these guys would be nice, I think.

Hey all, Thanks for the replies!

Flach, The bolter is definitely losing some detail from the primer unfortunately. It's still got some work to be done though, so we might get some back with detail work ^_^. As for elaborate basing, maybe for the commander, but the rank and file guys aren't going to get much in the way of crazy basing. I'll save my super basing stuff for my 'Munda gang.

LBursley, SoM could use more allies! It's funny how many folks were considering this army at the same time.

Iffy, you read my mind on the black rim. I was looking at it this morning and came to that conclusion as well.

Grim, I am planning some battle damage. I think I'll be going with a dark green for the chipping and damage, hopefully it comes out alright! It'll be the first time I've done any damage in that manner.

Ifurita wrote:

Flachzange wrote:
Since its a test model, I suppose youll keep the base the way it is, more elaborate bases would be cool tho.

I like the base color. Rim it in black and you have a very nice frame for a green figure.

Ah, dont get me wrong. The brown base is a great choice for the green fig, but it seemed rather bland. A stone here or there... some thicker gravel etc.
Im not talking monster bases will all kinds of stuff on them

Now that you guys mentioned it, a black rim would look awesome.

A deep boltgun/gunmetal color for the bolter might work out very nicely too, as it would be a dark yet different color from the trim and help set it off.

@ Flachzange - yes, I recognize that is what you meant.

I heard from higher-up why they were originally called the Sons of Medusa, mainly that the Studio thought the scheme was so -ing ugly.

Your take on it has put the lie to that statement, though. Well done.

I would leave the bolter black. different and clean. me likes. Also glad you went with the yellow eyes.. goes with the green.

I keep imagining awesome it would look if his helm was glossy... just the helm though.

<_< I always though SoM were the... slowed chapter, left in the Playpark after school, really ugly and such.

I was wrong. That guy is awesome.

~sA

Thanks of all of the comments folks ^_^ I really appreciate all of the feedback.

I spent some time at work yesterday finishing up the first model. He's still not 100% finished, he needs a chapter badge still (I'll be using printed decals for that), and I'm not 100% finished with the weathering just yet. But it gives you a much clearer image of what I'm going to be doing with them. Anyways enough talk, on with the pic!

Nicely done. I like the base, even though it's fairly plain. It's nice and neat and the color frames the figure nicely.

Looking great, but I think the lenses could use a really bright, crisp highlight around the bottom

Yes, the base came out really nice. Especially with the black rim, better than I thought.

The battle damage is looking superb as well.
ALl the chosen colors go very well together and Id really like to see a bigger force of these guys.

Thanks for the comments guys.

Aquila, I do have some plans to do some additional work on the eyes. I just want to stay away from the normal red everyone uses, so I've got to rework how I go about them some ^_^. I think some shading as well as a nice highlight is definitely in order still.

It looks good, if somewhat off balanced colourwise, I think. The one black shoulder pad is kind of distracting. I think if it was left green, and maybe a white tactical marking, it would look better. The painting itself is amazing, that's just my one qualm.

SoG

Another thing you could consider for the eye lenses is just to put down some gloss varnish over them.

What about a yellow-to-purple fade on the eyes?

Looking very impressive mate, for your weathering, are you just using the foam sponge technique?

Thats incredible, thought I commented on this blog before but I guss it got lost. Look forward to seeing it finished with the insignia.

grey_death wrote:Thanks for the comments guys.

Aquila, I do have some plans to do some additional work on the eyes. I just want to stay away from the normal red everyone uses, so I've got to rework how I go about them some ^_^. I think some shading as well as a nice highlight is definitely in order still.

Well, the problem is that red is a complimentary color to Green. Yellow isn't. Now, if you blended into or through orange with a red angle, perhaps it would "pop" out more. you could even go with a purple color too. with your green armor being more into the yellow spectrum, the best color for the eyes would be a violet/red or purple with a slant to red..

If you aren't following me, I am speaking of a color wheel. http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=color+wheel&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title notice the colors opposite the greens. especially the yellow/green.. it's red/violet.

the following link gives a good understanding of how to use a colorwheel. http://www.curbly.com/DIY-Maven/posts/690-Color-Wheel-Romance

also, feel free to use the internet to research color wheel and see what you come up with..

Very good job on your first marine! So what else can we be expecting in your army? Perhaps you could add bits and bites to make them look as if they are fighting in the Badab War? So add helmets of dead Astral Claws to the bases and such!

I remember that during the Badab War (ancient fluff) the Chapters involved also had variations on their existing scheme such as camo. Perhaps you could create a Scout Squad in desert colours or something?

Hey all! Thanks a Ton for the comments.

Some replies:

Malika, I'm sort of just putting together whatever spare kit I have laying about for these guys. I'm trying to put together something I can play (see: game legal) but with a few extra things here and there like a Desert Support Squad which was their special unit from the Warhammer World Campaign Rules. That Desert Support Squad will be done up in the Desert Camo for sure though ^_-. The local shop owner has the 40k Compendium from RT at the store for easy reference material too!

T_H_T, I never really worry much about the color wheel when I'm painting. Much of the time I'm going by feel more than I am from a technical standpoint. It was never the 'pop' that was giving me problems, just that they seemed far too flat ^_^. However I have given the eyes more consideration and I'm most likely going to do my normal marine eyes with more a fade to yellow instead of orange.

Shaman, Thanks for the compliment, I really hope to get the insignia situation worked out in the near future. But until then, I've got plenty of work to do ^_-.

Proximity, I am indeed using the foam sponge. It's working like a charm!

Belphegor, I'll probably go with a red base to yellow/white, but thanks for the suggestion!

Iffy, I've never been huge on gloss, in fact, I've never even used them x.x...I am sure some day I'll make the leap of faith and have a go though.

SoG, I sort of enjoy the asymmetry of the colors. The only real reason I did that though is because the squad marking is molded to the rim of the shoulder pad!

two_heads_talking wrote:Well, the problem is that red is a complimentary color to Green. Yellow isn't.

Red is not a complimentary colour to green, thus its place on the direct opposite side of the colour wheel.

Many GW figures use this to great effect when wanting to offset a colour, as it naturally jars the senses.

However, I'm assuming Grey is aiming to stick to a limited pallete, as the best painters do. Therefore yellow works well with green, being a by-product of two of the three primary colours.

Anti-Mag wrote:Red is not a complimentary colour to green, thus its place on the direct opposite side of the colour wheel.

That makes it a complementary colour.

http://painting.about.com/od/artglossaryc/g/defcompcolours.htm

@grey_death: Looking at it again, the asymmetry looks alright. The bolter kind of balances out the black on the armour.

SoG

What is this foam sponge technique you speak of? Do you have a link to a tutorial?

I know, I know! It's been FAR too long since I've updated with ANY progress for this project! But for good reason. I quickly realized painting this color of green by hand was going to burst the little bubble that I call sanity in a matter of a few models if I didn't find a better method! So I decided it was time to find a proper spray! And boy did I ever hit the gold mine!!

PS-8 Light Green Spray from Tamiya works WONDERFULLY as a basecoat for the Sons of Medusa!

Here are my results after applying it over a white primer and giving it a wash of Thraka Green:

Clthomps - here is a write up I posted on my site about the sponge painting technique.

grey_death wrote:I know, I know! It's been FAR too long since I've updated with ANY progress for this project! But for good reason. I quickly realized painting this color of green by hand was going to burst the little bubble that I call sanity in a matter of a few models if I didn't find a better method! So I decided it was time to find a proper spray! And boy did I ever hit the gold mine!!

PS-8 Light Green Spray from Tamiya works WONDERFULLY as a basecoat for the Sons of Medusa!

Here are my results after applying it over a white primer and giving it a wash of Thraka Green:

It would also work well for a Salamander army as well...

Yeah, Valhallan is correct. It does seem perfect for Salamanders since theyre are fairly dark shade of green anyways. How much work do you reckon it will be to get it back "up" to the light green on your initial marine?

Like I said, atm, it looks more like a Salamander, though I think its a good start.

Flachzange wrote:Yeah, Valhallan is correct. It does seem perfect for Salamanders since theyre are fairly dark shade of green anyways. How much work do you reckon it will be to get it back "up" to the light green on your initial marine?

Like I said, atm, it looks more like a Salamander, though I think its a good start.

This isn't the initial color out of the can though, it's washed heavily with Thraka Green. I don't see it being all that much harder than my original wash clean up from before ^_^.

i like the green looks very good

grey_death wrote:

Flachzange wrote:Yeah, Valhallan is correct. It does seem perfect for Salamanders since theyre are fairly dark shade of green anyways. How much work do you reckon it will be to get it back "up" to the light green on your initial marine?

Like I said, atm, it looks more like a Salamander, though I think its a good start.

This isn't the initial color out of the can though, it's washed heavily with Thraka Green. I don't see it being all that much harder than my original wash clean up from before ^_^.

Ah, okay. I seem to have missed that tidbit lol
Looking forward to seeing the guy finished

grey_death wrote:I know, I know! It's been FAR too long since I've updated with ANY progress for this project! But for good reason. I quickly realized painting this color of green by hand was going to burst the little bubble that I call sanity in a matter of a few models if I didn't find a better method! So I decided it was time to find a proper spray! And boy did I ever hit the gold mine!!

PS-8 Light Green Spray from Tamiya works WONDERFULLY as a basecoat for the Sons of Medusa!

Here are my results after applying it over a white primer and giving it a wash of Thraka Green:

Say, this looks very, very nice indeed!

I'm tempted to use Tamiya 86006 Color Spray PS-6 Yellow as the basis of my (in progress) Marines Malevolent force.

What would you suggest using as a wash for shading after that?

Thanks!

look vary good they do.

Sorry for the thread hijack, but I certainly do admire grey_death's painting skills and I'm looking to emulate the overall look you've achieved with the Tamiya Light Green spray and Thraka Green wash.

Do you think the Tamiya Yellow and then a Gryphonne Sepia wash would do the trick?

Heya all, thanks for the comments, and Alph, don't worry about asking questions!

I think that could work out nicely honestly. The sepia wash isn't too heavy either so it will give you the depth color while still being easy to clean up ^_^. You just need to make sure you pick up the flat spray, it'll still seem like it's got a bit of a sheen to it, but a quick hit of matt varnish at the end should dull it down nicely!

grey_death wrote:Heya all, thanks for the comments, and Alph, don't worry about asking questions!

I think that could work out nicely honestly. The sepia wash isn't too heavy either so it will give you the depth color while still being easy to clean up ^_^. You just need to make sure you pick up the flat spray, it'll still seem like it's got a bit of a sheen to it, but a quick hit of matt varnish at the end should dull it down nicely!

woo thats cool! i have some Tamiya spray but they seem to be enamel ish not sure if i can paint over mine

grey_death wrote:Heya all, thanks for the comments, and Alph, don't worry about asking questions!

I think that could work out nicely honestly. The sepia wash isn't too heavy either so it will give you the depth color while still being easy to clean up ^_^. You just need to make sure you pick up the flat spray, it'll still seem like it's got a bit of a sheen to it, but a quick hit of matt varnish at the end should dull it down nicely!

How heavy a wash did you apply to get the look of the model above?

Almost "dip" level thick, or a bit more selectively applied?

It's a selective application, but heavy where I needed it. Plenty of original color left after I was done.

OK, sounds about what I thought it would/should be.

I've got the Tamiya Yellow on order, and the Sepia wash ready to go.

I'll try it out on a test model...

Thanks for the help!

Well after a day or so of work, I've saved myself 50 bucks ^_-.

A long while back, a friend of mine handed over his entire army, tanks and all. I never did much with them, but yesterday I decided it was high time I did! So I started salvage work! It took a while to get everything to working order and in the configuration that I wanted it all, but it's good to go now!

The 'big' project for this was an automated multimelta turret which is built from an attack bike metal bit and a HK launcher bit. All in all I'm VERY happy with how it came out. Expect an updated 'Green' for this one ^_-.

Since Chrysaor is the name of the Son of Medusa, this thread definetly caught my eye.

Very nice painting you've got going on here. Too bad so many people want to do a Sons of Medusa SM army, or this thread might've inspired me to.

Perhaps you could make a character (chapter master or some such thing) with the name Chrysaor.

EDIT: For idiocy.

Impressive green...

One quick question:do you find it easy to get in all the nooks and crannies on a model with the Tamiya spray? The GW one never seems to get everywhere, which makes me pretty relucant to use spray can for basecoating; if I have to touch up anyway I'd rather do it by hand, mos of the time.

The multimelta turret is pretty impressive; are the lascannons magnetized so you can swith to a LR Crusader? Or do you have something else in mind with the turret?

love the converted multi melta.

how did you do it?

Some quick replies:

Chrysaor, You never know what named characters will end up in the army ^_-...

CommissarKhaine, For nooks and crannies I really don't worry too much. I end up washing them with Thraka green to add the shading I need, so getting into every little spot on the model is honestly unnecessary. The turret is for the Land Raider, it's just one of the hatches. The lascannons aren't magnetized, I don't have any other weapons for this bad boy anyways ^_-....

jamunition, the multi melta was just a chop and glue job. I used an attack bike multi melta and cut the mount at the pivot point and filed everything down to fit. It takes some doing to get it all fitting correctly and is honestly a bit of a pain to get right. Once it was attached to the mount again, I used the targeter from the hunter killer missle and glued that to the side after filing down some rivets. If you can get your hands on some plastic bits that are similar, I'd suggest using those instead as the entire process will be faster and a bit easier. There is just something about converting metal minis that I really enjoy ^_^.

Beautiful work.

Can you explain how you do your weathering?
Keep it up!

Looking great, do you think the new washes are worth it, i am considering getting some and i am not to sure if i should.

And just out of curiosity, how long have you been collecting?, you seem to be a very good painter and am just wondering how long it took to get to that level

Sirath - for these guys I used This Technique.

Kormas - I really think the washes are a very good addition to any paint set. Some newer painters tend to overuse them as the end all be all in 'how to paint' and I've even seen a lot of folks here giving advice that pretty much ends up being 'WASH EVARYTHANG WITH BAdAB BLAK!1', while not entirely wrong, isn't exactly the method I subscribe to ^_-. Selective use is the key to the new washes, use them as an additional layer to build upon. As for how long I've been at this, just about a Decade now ^_^...God I'm old.

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Minor Update:



It's GREEN!

That is good advice, but I'm betting that Oscar there is going to need quite a bit of washing!

Thanks for the advice, i think i might go out soon and buy some of those inks, a decade, wow, no wonder you aresuch a good painter

That land raider seems to glow, good foundation for the paint job.

CommissarKhaine, For nooks and crannies I really don't worry too much. I end up washing them with Thraka green to add the shading I need, so getting into every little spot on the model is honestly unnecessary. The turret is for the Land Raider, it's just one of the hatches. The lascannons aren't magnetized, I don't have any other weapons for this bad boy anyways ^_-....

Thanks. Guess I'm too obsessed with al the little bits sometimes... Didn't know a normal land raider could have a multimelta.

he green is... vibrant... Looking forward to seeing it finished!

It's a key lime land raider.

The Might of Heracles:

lol You are full of surprises. I didnt see that coming.
Cool stuff tho. Like I said before, Im a huge fan of the green and it works well on the cruiser. And you detailed it rather nicely.

Just a minor update, wanted to let folks know work is still happening on these guys ^_^. Just nothing finished!

The Army Thus Far:

I really liked how the finished Marine ended up! Key lime space marines

I can't wait to see more.

Looking forward to seeing some more, can't wait till the next update.

i love the colour mate
stands out alot.


done a test colour for a friend on a marine, maybe we can form a chapter alliance?

Starting the first in my Desert Support Squad marines.



These should be a cool fun break ^_^.

You are doing them in rogue trader style camoflage TOO now?!

This just captured my interest on a much higher level.

This thread is becoming increasingly more in interesting, but then how can i expect any less from grey_death.

Desert? Looking good. Do you play a lot of BFG?

Arran

Paul, I am indeed doing the camo scheme ^_^. This will be the only full unit camo'd out, but I'm thinking a few marines here and there might get the treatment as well, we'll see though, it takes much longer than the normal scheme x.x..

Arran, I don't do much BFG as I've just gotten into the game. That is my only ship so far. Hopefully I can flesh that out in the future.

little, thanks for the praise, I try and keep my projects interesting and varied as much as possible!

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More progress:



One more stage of highlight I think and maybe a little bit of orange/brown wash for some color variation. Then camo stripping goes on.

Lookin good Grey!

!? wrote:Lookin good Grey!

Thanks!

I'm hoping to find some time today to do the final highlights and get started on the stripes. I'll try and take another photo today with my phone and see if I can get it uploaded. Work today, so I don't have the best options for uploading the pics!

Stay tuned!

What's the color steps for the desert marines? Very few people use brown in their Marines these days, so it's good to see it!

I like the desert scheme. You going to use them withe you Sons of Medusa?

Arran

tzeentchling - click on the photos and there are some color descriptions in the gallery pages.

Arran235 - They themselves are Sons of Medusa. The scheme is a throw back to the Rogue Trader days.

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More Progress, sorry for the pic quality, but it's not too shabby for a phone!



Better photos, hopefully finished photos sometime tomorrow!

Holy hell that looks good. I'm jealous again.

Amazing you have in spired me.

That is way beyond what I had expected... as always.

Should not all stripes run parallel though? Just wondering, really.

Paul, The stripes are running roughly vertical. I wanted to update the camo look as I didn't want to just straight copy from the book a VERY dated color scheme. This new striping gives them a modern look while still keeping the same feel and colors from the original camo idea. The new camo is also FAR more aggressive looking ^_-.

Final photos of this marine incoming today sometime. Stay tuned.

My first Desert Support Marine is finished!



All except chapter marking of course, but that's not happening until the very end I suspect.

This was a very nice break from the green, and I'm very happy with the final product. It does take a while to get the colors where I want them, but the effort is worth it. Plus, I only NEED to do 5 of these guys. I suspect a few more than that will end up in this scheme now though >.>....

And a quick comparison shot:



You can see the tie ins very easily. The weapon colors are identical, and the black shoulder pad rim and chest eagles. Basing is the same as well. A more subtle tie in is the battle damage. They are both done with the exact same colors, Catachan Green for the initial damage marking and bleached bone to highlight.

Hope to do more SoMs this fast in the future.

Some modeling and such done tonight.

Behold my exploded magnetized Rhino/Razorback/Predator:



Three new additions for the SoMs as well.

The middle guy is the result of having kit bashed Dev Marines and Sternguard together for my Desert Support Squad. The additional guys might come in handy in the future.

The Techmarine will be run as a Master of the Forge and will be running with my Dreads keeping them in tip top condition, not to mention joining in on the slaughter should the enemy get close enough.



And here you can see my newly added static grass. I really think the bases look much much better with this little addition. If I had the time I'd even think about sculpting a few little cactus plants and casting them up! But this project is already WAY behind where I'd like it to be. So sacrifices must be made x.x...

Nothing major here, but I don't want folks to think I've forgotten about the SoMs! I'm hoping to get a 1k game in with them soon, and once my chaplain is finished getting a few more of them painted up. Or at least get further along with basecoats.

More as I finish more!

Shouldn't the desert support have some sand on its base instead of grass?

Anywho, awesome models! Can't wait to see more.

ramzca wrote:Shouldn't the desert support have some sand on its base instead of grass?

Anywho, awesome models! Can't wait to see more.

No, not all deserts are entirely full of sand. See the deserts in the North-American Southwest for example. Lots of rocks, scrub brush, sparse vegetation, etc - even some trees.

I think the grass added a really nice touch. I apologize if this has been covered before by you, but will you be keeping the rims of the bases black?

Lagduf wrote:I think the grass added a really nice touch. I apologize if this has been covered before by you, but will you be keeping the rims of the bases black?

I will indeed be keeping the rims black on these guys.

Forgive me for my red/green deficiency but what color are the desert marines compared to the normal marines? Also how did you paint both? My brother would kill me for starting another green army (Sallies, DA, Orks, Nurgle CSM) but these guys are spectacular... any chance you can tell us how you did the white? I always end up getting streaky white.

Thanks

Absolutely loving the sons of medusa marine. Simple & effective colour scheme, seems quite manageable with the washes too.

Your phone takes better pictures than my camera... and for that I hate you.

WOW, how did you paint the dessert, (mmmm cake) marines?

Arran

Shadow Nugz, The Desert Marines are done in a yellow ochre color. For more on colors check out the corresponding gallery, some of the photos have some more information about what colors were used. As to how I paint my white, I've done a small write up for my site here that might help you some.

- Human, Thanks for the comments, it's not super easy, but some of the steps I have in place make it a bit less difficult. And I'm extremely impressed with the camera on my phone. It definitely works wonderfully for when I'm at work without a camera!

Arran235, I also have to refer you to the Corresponding Gallery.

loving the desert support GD! Can't wait to see the "new additions" painted up.

looking great, loving the colour scheme and am looking ford to seeing it all finished

I love the camo marine what an inspired army this will be.

Meh, Not a fan of the desert scheme.

Go the original scorpion green + white combo. Would love to see a full squad done up in that way.

Thanks for the comments guys. I'm really hoping to have some REAL updates coming in the near future. I just need to finish up my Chaplain for the local painting contest before I can really get my heels in on these guys.

Sirath, I'll be using both color schemes actually. The desert scheme is mainly for my Sternguard as a throwback to the old Rogue Trader camo schemes in the Badab Wars history. It won't be the main colors, but it'll be prominently displayed by any recon elements.

grey_death wrote:
Sirath, I'll be using both color schemes actually. The desert scheme is mainly for my Sternguard as a throwback to the old Rogue Trader camo schemes in the Badab Wars history. It won't be the main colors, but it'll be prominently displayed by any recon elements.

To me this is one of the best parts of the project. Overall, I really love what you've done again, despite the inherent flaws in the GW space marine anatomy and kit, I'm excited about this project.

Looking forward to more.

Looking very nice indeed mate. Infact, I'm just in the process of looting your green spray + ink trick for some salamanders :p

When you initially sprayed out of the Tamiya can, did it come out a bit shiny? I'm concerned about painting over parts that shouldn't be green, and gunking the model up ><

I see a problem with camo marines...... your 3 meters tall and you sound like an army march when you walk, why would you try and use camo.

Good painting though.

WarlordGaz wrote:When you initially sprayed out of the Tamiya can, did it come out a bit shiny? I'm concerned about painting over parts that shouldn't be green, and gunking the model up ><

It does have a slight sheen to it I will admit. But the wash takes the edge off it a bit and makes it easier to paint over. Just wash the entire model and you'll get easier coverage.

Just q quick question.
What did you use for the grass ? I'm using a desert / scrub terrain scheme for my guys and thats exactly the shade of grass I'm looking for.

Thanks.

Great army btw, that green is something else.

Stubby, Here is a link for ya!

:-D

grey_death wrote:

WarlordGaz wrote:When you initially sprayed out of the Tamiya can, did it come out a bit shiny? I'm concerned about painting over parts that shouldn't be green, and gunking the model up ><

It does have a slight sheen to it I will admit. But the wash takes the edge off it a bit and makes it easier to paint over. Just wash the entire model and you'll get easier coverage.

Cheers, I did that and you certainly can see the difference ^^

SoM were the chapter I chose when my GW store had a contest to see what chapter to paint our store marines as. I won the contest but my manager said there was no way they were going to do them! lol

These look great so far, GD. Makes me want to do a squad or two as well (and I hate painting Loyalists!)

Just a quick update on the current progress:



Working out my method for batch painting them. I think it's coming along well so far ^_^.

I like the way this group is coming along. It's good to see you getting stuff accomplished with these guys. Maybe someday I'll figure out exactly how it is that you highlight...

I hope they shall be ready soon so that they can purge the enemies of the iperium.

Haha, Gey_Death! good to see you havn't fallen off the hobby grid. The last time I saw you, you were working on the Grey Death Legion. Your work on the Sons of Medusa is simply superb so far. I think you should also post this up on the B&C

Keep going with that quality and your going to have a fantastic army mate.

Look forward to more.

Cheers,

Dante

Thanks guys! I'm really hoping to have this group finished up tomorrow some time! Expect photos Tuesday night some time of the 'Finished' group (minus chapter badge).

How are you doing the chapter badges? Are there transfers for sons of medusa or are you using the metal pads?

Cheers,

Dante

There are a few different sites with DIY transfers all worked out for the Sons, you just need to print them out on the special transfer paper.

I've yet to pick up the paper or even try printing my own yet. I hope to get around to that soon so I can work out the kinks before I start on the Sons.

They're finally finished (Chapter badges will be applied/painted all at once):











Click the images to go to the gallery page for a fully zoomable image!

I'm really happy with how quickly this group came together. I painted 5 from the start and added an additional that was a WIP from before to the mix and had no issues with the extra workload. I think this method will go even faster once I get even more marines finished this way. I'll be starting another batch this week. I'm really excited to get working on them!

Questions/Comments/Critiques/Compliments More than welcome folks! Hope you like em as much as I do!

Now you just have to find a way to get Chapter Badges on there without mucking with the detail and highlighting.

That said, they look really nice, and I particularly like the battle damage.

Thats awsome Grey_death! they look unik and the skrapes on the armour is sick. Nice to hear you'v found a good method of finishing your models in a smooth way! Cant wait till next batch

Oh nice! Damn you GD for making me want to paint Loyalists! lol

I gotta try that sponging thing, looks great. Not too much, not too little.

How did you do the wear and tear on the shoulder pads and shin guards.

Thanks for the compliments guys.

blessed, Check out my tutorial for how to do the battle damage.

grey_death wrote:Thanks for the compliments guys.

blessed, Check out my tutorial for how to do the battle damage.

Great tutorial by the way. I just tried this a couple days ago on a terminator from the AoBR set. Really helped make the model a bit more interesting. I did have to pick at my foam a bit to get a more random appearance in the paint, but otherwise no problems.

Damn good, coming along nicely now yet again I'm going to sit in a corner and cry as I realise almost all the creatures of the earth are better at painting then I.

A bit of progress today:



Need to convert the Lascannons into Autocannons (they changed the rules after I had ordered my dread so...no FW autocannons for me...)

Base is still a WIP as well. Just a bit more sculpting work and then some sand goes down. He's not attached to the base yet either.

Looks good! I love the FW drill arm!

Impressive. The drill arm is nasty.

sA

Another bit of mundane progress:



The sergeant in front being the main feature of this group. I modeled a bionic arm from plastic tubing and guitar string. I also added a grenade pin to his teeth and a small nub where the pin should have been ^_-. This guy has a lot of energy in the pose, and I can't wait to get him painted up!

Also worked on some greencoating at work yesterday but didn't get nearly as far as I would have liked (only three marines scorpion greened...). Will continue with paint as I find some more time this week!

Hooray, always good to see progress, regardless of how mundane you may see it being. I find it pushes me to do more.

Was this the last few guys you had to get modeled?

Perseus is ready for Paint:





As to everything else:

I've been working on another set of 5 marines as well as getting base coats on everyone else. They're coming along, but somewhat slower than the first group of marines because I'm trying to get more done at once this time. Perseus was a major project that needed to be finished and now that he's built I can be more focused on painting.

Also still need to get my hands on another Razorback for my Tacticals. Should be getting one in the next two weeks to round out the army list to 1500. After that if I choose to go to 2k I'll end up purchasing another Land Raider.

I need to work out some shoulders for my Terminators as well. I picked up a set of termies for next to nothing in trades a while back and they were without shoulders. So hopefully I can work that out soon as well.

As always, stay tuned for painting progress and comments always welcome!

The autocannon conversion looks good and the pose is great. It looks as if he is scanning the horizon for targets, ready to let loose, but at the same time casual.

Thanks Met! The pose really works for the look I was going for. Glad the autocannons look as good as they do too. For such a simple conversion, they really turned out nicely.

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5 New Marines finished!





I'm up in the air on what I want to work on next. Desert Support Squad or Perseus ^_-...

I think Perseus is winning out right now as I need a bit of a break from Marines.

Here is where we stand for the army:

Finished:
12 Tactical Marines
1 Desert Support Marine

WIP:
1 Venerable Dread
1 MotF
1 Dread
5 Terminators
8 Tactical Marines
1 Razorback
1 Landraider

Still to buy:
1 Razorback

Much of that is basecoated and ready to see some paint. The squad needing the most work is the terminators. They need shoulders still before I can complete assembling them. I'll be doing 5 termies with magnetized weapons and 5 glued on. This will give me the choice of taking 5 normal or assault termies. While still keeping my core force set up glued together.

Razorback should be purchased this weekend!

Stay tuned for more!

Am I correct in being able to read "The Sons of Medusa..." on that scroll? Because that's spiffy.

And you already know that I think Perseus should be next on the docket.

These guys are looking really good, g_d. Keep up the progress, and don't get bogged down doing one type of model if you feel your interest wane.

I love the green and the overall feel. You've really done the SOM proud.

I'm not so keen on the way you do the black here. It's just too crude an effect in relation to the beautiful naturality that you use to build up the green. I'd go over the black with baback wash a few times to rein in the grey edging.

They are about as nice as it gets from that sad excuse of a marine kit

Migs, Thanks a ton for the feedback. I know it's a bit of a cop out on the black, it is rather hard of a highlight where the green has a much more gradual progression. I'm not 100% on going back now to change it, but it's on the list of things to think about.

I also hate you for making me not like the basic marine. I used to think it was such a cool kit. Then you make one of the most convincing conversions of true scaling around and I can't help but want to do the same!

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Some Perseus progress:



Just some basic color mapping right now. Much of the brown on the sarcophagus will be gold.

I also was able to get the last 8 tacticals washed with Thraka in prep to finish them off after perseus. I might even work on them intermittently while Perseus has wash drying on him!

Stay Tuned.

migsula wrote:They are about as nice as it gets from that sad excuse of a marine kit

It's not THAT bad. True, it doesn't approach what you do with your conversions, but it's a far cry from the first iteration of plug and play marines.

Judging for the contest I entered my Terminator Chaplain in has finally finished up and I have walked away the victor! And with that win I was able to procure a nice chunk of hobby stuff! This in addition to my fresh new Razorback I picked up last night!



I hope to start more scratchbuilding and sculpting in future projects!

But back on task:

I've done some more work on Perseus. He's taking a lot longer to paint than I had expected him to x.x...but much of that I believe is simply trying to figure out what colors will be going where!

Here is where I am right now:



As you can see much of it is simply base colors. But I have gotten a little further along on the sarcophagus:



Hopefully I can start to make real progress soon as more of the detail colors are worked out. I'm pretty open to suggestions still at this point so if you have em, let me know!

Persi is looking great GD, the white helmet nestled in there is really jumping already. Fantastic autocannon too, I was actually sure it was FW

The dread's little buddies are really solid too, even if wee stumpy marines compared to the true-scaler super-soldiers around these parts

- Salvage

Looks pretty sharp man I agree that the dread is just awesome. Definitely one of the most dynamic dreads I have seen.

Nice choice with the dread -- sons of medusa really need the FW style dread so you can paint a white helmet.

I think a small back banner would be a sweet addition to this guy. details like that really sell an army to a judge or passer by.

As I said before mate, the metal is looking really good. What was the process? Could do with improving my metallics.

Cheers,

Dante

Really gorgeous stuff. Sons of Medusa have always captured my imagination, and you're doing 'em justice!

Boss, Thanks for the compliments ^_^. Especially the one about the autocannon. It's one of my more ambitious conversions as I delve further into the converting and sculpting world ^_-. Expect more along that front with future projects!

Wehr, Thanks! I worked for a while figuring out the best pose for him and I am glad it's paid off!

winterman, I'm pretty much 100% opposed to banners on my personal marines x.x...I dig it when others do them, but I just can't bring myself to model my guys with them! Just FAR too UN-tactical for me x.x...

Dante, I used my gryphonne sepia method for the bronzed look.

Arkion, I have been getting that a lot! People really love the SoMs and I'm glad I could breath some life into the chapter!

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Perseus Progress Report:





I'm a LOT happier with the green now that I've gotten the weathering on it. It wasn't working for me and now it is.

However I'm somewhat uncertain about the litany plates on the sarcophagus. I was thinking of regular parchment but couldn't help but wonder if they would be easier and look a bit better in the bronze/gold. Any thoughts?

Also might need to tone down the autocannon metal some with a light badab wash.

Expect a few damage spots on the sarcophagus plates as well. I will have to use a regular brush for those spots. The big damage spots were done with a big gnarly brush I use for terrain drybrushing ^_-... Still done in the same manner as my marines only without the sponge.

If I get some good feedback to help solidify my ideas some, I should be able to knock out the rest of the details tomorrow night sometime!

C&C welcome and wanted as always!! Stay tuned ^_-.

Loving it as always man, i know your not up too this part but are you planning to do any extra detail to the base? (dunno why but your bases for your marines are the best)

grey_death wrote:I was thinking of regular parchment but couldn't help but wonder if they would be easier and look a bit better in the bronze/gold. Any thoughts?

I think the gold/ bronze would work better as it would make the front simpler in the way of different finishes and it would at the same time calm the front which is going to be busy.

Try some brown wash on the autocannon to give it some tie in to the bronze metals.

It's looking good and colors/ scheme is working really well.

The weathering on the green really ties it back to the metals, looking very nice mate!

I love the way you have done the green, it has that "same colour as the marines but on much bigger armour" look, i.e. nice broad pale highlight type effect. One of the benefits of doing it over a white undercoat I suspect!

Cheers,

Dante

This is really looking awesome, and I have got to agree with a lot thats been said already. For example, the awesome autocannon. It looks PERFECT!

And I also agree on the banner issue. I like seeing em, but I wouldnt do it myself.
"Quickly through the pipe" CLUNK "I dont fit, my frakking banner is to big".

Yeah, no. Leave it the way it is! It will catch your eye, even without a banner.

Do you have a shot with some of the marines next to it?

Can you tell me how you paint your white helmets?

I'm going to be painting a lot of Ravenguard soon, so that will come in handy!

I'm so very happy you are getting a propa army for yourself to use!!!

Dread is looking great already!

Gutter, glad you're liking the results for the dread ^_^. The base is going to have the normal drybrushing and static grasses I've used on all the other models so far. I don't have any other details planned just yet, but if something jumps out at me as an much needed addition, I'll run with it!

Metsuri, I think the bronze/gold litany plates is the consensus. I'll be going with that as I move forward ^_-. The autocannon might just get a bit of the brown wash to help tone it down a bit. Hopefully as I finish more of the model, more of these little spots will start tying together more.

Dante, the green effect I've achieved is really just using bleached bone as my highlighting color. The white undercoat helped keep the green night and bright, but the real star is that wonderful muted ivory color...

Flachzange, Thanks for the compliment, I hope to continue with great subtle conversion work like this in future projects ^_^. I haven't taken any photos yet with marines, but when he's finished, I'll definitely have family photo time with the little brothers.

Alpharius, It's my same simple recipe from my Grey Death Marines. I'd love to have a Ravenguard army myself... The scratches, like the one on the dreads helmet are done with a soft(er) lead pencil! I'll be doing a little write up on that in the near future ^_-...

Migs, It's going to be a happy happy happy day when I get these guys to a playable painted state!

He is Finished:













It took about a week longer than I had hoped it would, but I'm finally done with him. I'm happy with the results. Now I'm free to work on the last of the tacticals! Once they're finished I can finally get to grips with the Desert Support Marines!

C&C Welcome and Wanted as always!

I must ask, how do you get that beautiful green gradient style color consistent on the armor. Extremely thinned paints? ink washes? or possibly just the way the picture was taken?

They looks absolutely stunning.

I have to say, Im a bit surprised.
In the progress pictures, the green looked way lighter compared to your marines. Now, with these group shots up, I cant really see a difference at all.

Very nice work. He fits right in.

Simply marvelous!!!

Beautiful, really impressive group shot you have there.

All the best with the rest!

Just happened on your blog tonight, thoroughly enjoyed reading through the posts. Your paint work is great and I really admire the metal finishes. Superb collection.

~ Tael.

ChaoticFlanagan, I used extremely thin layering to get that effect. The paint is watered down and most of it is soaked off the brush so that only a thin glazed layer is left on the model each pass with the brush. As I add layers, I use normal layering technique (letting the last layers show around the edge more) to get a more gradual color.

Flachzange, I had someone else voice concern about that as well. I think it was the lighting and that many of the photos weren't on a white background. I think these are more true to life than all the rest were.

Deff Dread red Edition, Thanks!

Shas'El Tael, Thanks for stopping in! I think metals on the dread are some of the most varied I've done.

Mohaniker, Thanks! I really enjoy putting the models together for inspiration! Keeps me going x.x....

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I hope the other Dread(s) is/are as easy on the painting as this guy was! They'll be a bit less detailed (thankfully x.x.), but that's just because the models are normal dreadnoughts and not FW craziness!

Pure Class Aaron!!

Love the group shot and aesthetically, this new direction is right on the money!

The Dreadnaught looks awesome he genuinely looks like the inspirational leader figure Dreadnaught's are meant to be with him casually watching the enemy before catching them in a rain of death from the autocannons. I also like the Cammo marines I've always been fond of the concept. To those who aren't why is Cammo on a 2M Tall superhuman trooper more dumb than that on a battle tank?

Ok! So I got bored painting normal Tacticals and decided my 'break' would be starting the Land Raider!



The green is about 60% basecoated, the blacks are at about 90% I believe. Once i get the green base color (scorpion green) down, it's on to highlighting, then weathering, then scratching and washing.

Can't wait to get to another stage of the process already!! Base colors are killing me!

It still looks rather toxic. I hope you can still have kids after painting that.

As usual with your stuff, I'm looking forward to seeing how this progresses.

Love the Sons.

Hehe, scorpion green is such a great color!!
Looking good so far. Im a huge fan of your dread, so itll be nice to see the amount of detail you will put into this beast

Didn't you have a tamya green spray for basecoating at some stage??

I love the bright green!

UC, I do too o.o...anyone else smell the burning feathers...?

InquisitorFabius, Thanks ^_^

Flachzange, Scorpion Green is such a PAIN of a color. Even over a light green spray, it takes a few coats to get it smooth! Thanks for the comments too, I can't wait to get to detailing and weathering this monster!

migs, I do have some! And I did use it on this! But even with the help from the green base, it takes forever to get it up to scorpion green. Its easier than going without (as I did with the dread), but still time consuming...

DDrE, So do I, even if it's painful to paint x.x....

Your LR looks like a delicious and delectable piece of key lime pie.....


Mmmm.....

Looks great, can't wait to see it when it's done.

Ok, just a small bit of info:

I tried to do stenciling for the chapter badge a while back but unfortunately at scale I need it, and the many tiny details on the Sons of Medusa emblem, I just couldn't get it to work. Add all that to the curved nature off the space marine shoulder pad, and I was trudging up hill with no relief in site.

So I decided to go with custom decals instead, and settled upon a set made by Tubal over on B&C seen here.

I ordered a bit of decal paper from Papillio, picked up some Microsol from the model shop, a bit of Krylon Crystal Clear, and have finally gotten to work on making my sheet. I still need to pick up some Microset, which they should have in today at the model shop!

So far I've figured out what scale I needed to get it to by printing a bunch of test prints and canceling the print after I got about a line or two of images. I printed these on regular paper, cut out an emblem, and dry fit it to the shoulder to check the sizing. Once I figured out how large I wanted it (I went with 25% scale in the end), I set the printer for super glossy premium paper/best quality and printed off a sheet.

After it was done printing, I let it dry a few minutes, and set to spraying the sheet with the Crystal Clear to set the decals. Now, I wait...impatiently...for a whole day...

The fruits of my labor though are satisfying so far

grey_death wrote:
Flachzange, Scorpion Green is such a PAIN of a color. Even over a light green spray, it takes a few coats to get it smooth! Thanks for the comments too, I can't wait to get to detailing and weathering this monster!

Oh, dont get me wrong.
I absolutely agree! It is a pain, BUT, when done right (like your guys I might add), it looks awesome! Because it is a great shade of green

And your custom decals are great!

Ok, some painting progress now:





LOTS of battle damage highlighting to go still. But it's progress!

God I hate to do this. Why does a Land Raider have Frag Assault Launchers?

It doesn't. They're missing their trademark crosses.

It's a cool bit he wanted to use, is my guess.

Dread turned out very nice. Great to see a bunch of your SoM together.

Let us know how the decals work for you GD. I've been thinking about doing some but the only tutorial I found was using whit decal paper that you have to cut around perfectly or you have edges.

InquisitorFabius, I filed away all of the details and am using them as extra armor.

Valhallan42nd, bingo ^_-.

Lbursley, Thanks man ^_^, I'll definitely be putting more up about the decals as I get a bit more work in with them! Expect some sort of write up on The Painting Corps in the future ^_-.

I know, but I had to be the devils advocate.

I can see the detail on your models from my itouch!!! nice

In that case, it looks as if the Devil will have to disbar you!

Great stuff GD!

Though that Land Raider certainly has been to hell and back!

Can't wait to see more.

Man, I gotta say, only you could make such a god awful color of electric green look great on models. Going into this, I didn't see how it could possibly look good, but now, I stand corrected!

They do look like they should make plants wither at their passing, though

As I've already mentioned, loving the direction your going with the weathering on the LR there buddy, can't wait to see it finished.

This is shaping up to be one hell of an army!

Cheers,

Dante

I really like the colour scheme. Great stuff!

Thanks for the comments all ^_^.

Now for my first test of the decals:



I had expected a bit more of an opaque grey >.>...BUT, after thinking it over, this ends up working out for the best! The transparency ends up letting the battle damage/weathering show through and gives me a GREAT outline to paint the chapter badge over!



After a little bit of test paint that's where I'm at with the first try. It's not 100% just yet though, but already promises great things ^_-.

This army is looking great GD! I first had my doubt about the colours from SoM as well, but with the weathering they just looked perfect! It makes me wanna start an army of a relatively unknown chapter as well! May I ask, how you got the idea to start something completely different from any other chapters, and pull it off so great!

The decals are looking great as well, I quite like their chapter icon. It sure makes a good template to start the freehands!


Keep em coming, I'll be watching!

Pretty damn legit man.

InquisitorFabius wrote:Pretty damn legit man.

qft!

Looking good man.

How many points is this army going up to?(sorry if you mentioned this already)

Very cool army. jelly bean green is workin' for ya.

I love your weathering and I am always trying to improve mine be decoding other peoples, Is that black or silver? and how do you go about adding your greys highlights, do you just paint it all on the lower side of the scratches on every one you can with a fine tip? Also I like that process of decals I wish I could get that to work with Blood angels logos on their shoulder pads. They so barely work as decals and then free hand always is slightly off.

Thanks for the comments all ^_^.

DDrE, I'm hoping to get them to 1500 by August (we'll see x.x...). 2k is the planned end of the army.

tcraigen, I'm not certain what you're question is on ^_^. If you can clarify it at all, I can more appropriately answer your question!

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Ok, slight update time:



Gryphonne Sepia weathering down on the green. I'll have to go back with sepia again when the metals are done.

Looking good,can't wait to see the mini finished.

Looking great as always GD

I know you are using the sponge technique for your battle damage, but what colour are you actually using on the sponge ?

Thanks

Very convincing chipped paint there. It looks awesome! That decal came out nicely as well.

hehe sorry I was trying to figure out how you do your chipped paint work, and making a guess at your process. sorry it came out so confusing, just wanted to know how you do yours.

StubbyGB, I'm using Catachan Green for the paint chipping.

tcraigen, I've posted a link to my battle damage tutorials elsewhere in this thread, just go back a little bit ^_^

Progress:







A lot of little stuff. Metals are nearly finished. The black is highlighted much the same as my normal marines, but will be dusted a good amount in the final phase of weathering. A bit of the detailing is done, but with lots of little details (lenses mostly) still needing attention. Turrets need attention still as well, but they're a minor concern compared to finishing the hull.

I can't wait to be finished with this thing already.

You're SoM are a lovely shade of Green, just like envious old me!

You always can't wait to be finished whatever you're working on.

It's looking good thus far. Looking forward to seeing the black toned down/weathered, so that it matches the rest of the battle bruised hull.

That LR is looking sweet.

Hey GD I have a question for you. Do you remember how you did the exhaust / smoke-stacks of your dread ?



I'm trying to do mine now and I'm not sure how to go about it. I'm thinking of starting with Tinbitz and then a bunch of washes with black, sepia and flesh. Maybe some washes with some regular flat brown colours too?

Any advice would be much appreciated.

This is getting better with each entry ....
Your LR really looks ace and Im a huge fan of the grime! YOu also made a good choice on the parts that will remain black. Breaks the whole thing up nicely.

StubbyGB, The stacks were done by painting them in Boltgun Metal and giving them successive washes of Gryphonne Sepia. Once they were the color I wanted, I used my Tamiya Weathering Master compact and hit them with the soot. The Tamiya stuff should be your last step as it wipes off easily, so save it for last and seal it right after.

Followed this thread for a while Grey. Very nice work. I was a little sceptical about the neon shade of green, but every model has carried it off excellently so far. No chance of the enemy missing these guys on the battlefield; in this case that is a good thing.

I really like your weathering and you have inspired me to try to emulate some of the effects you pulled off. I have done a few tests with some light colored models, to practice your sponge-based weathering to good effect.

However, what advice do you have for weathering Black Legion tanks, or more specifically vehicles painted Chaos Black? I am going to try out sponging on Boltgun Metal and "highlighting" that with maybe Adeptus Battlegrey to give the effect that maybe there was a layer of primer under the black.

Any thoughts?


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I see from your blog that you responded in the comments, regarding Sponging Battle Damage:

I would personally stay away from using metallics for the scratches, at least the small ones, as the scale seems to be lost when you use them. I'd instead go for a darker color like I have here, or go for a orange/brown to indicate some rusting effects.

So after reading that, it looks like you would suggest not using the Boltgun metal, but maybe I could use the orange/brown mix? The primary dilemma is how it fits with the black paint of the vehicle itself. I will at least try this tonight.

Any other suggestions are welcome..

AbsoluteBlue, I really think it's up to personal aesthetic when it comes to weathering. GW seems to go exclusively with metallic weathering on their black armor. With the land raider I've run into a dilemma with just how to weather the black as well. I went with brown and it seems to have worked out for me. I also heavily dusted it as well.

A follow up to my reply to stubby is on weathering using the Tamiya Weathering Master compact. Check out my 'review' here.

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IT IS DONE!

Congrats on finally finishing this beast. It looks great.

Very nice indeed. you have balanced the amount of mud, just right.

I will continue to dissect your technique and use you for inspiration.

Just one word,excellent!!!!

That looks ace, though the skull and bones on the grenade launcher front thingies are rather clean for being right above the tracks.

SoG

Awesome GD.
I didnt realize you were using the Tamiya weathering kit. I have two of those on my shelf as well and will hopefully be using those for a project soon. Im really interested how it will turn out (even though it doesnt have anything to do with warhams).

Its good so see awesome results like this though.
Great work!!

Great Land Raider Grey Death, I didn't realise you were using the Tamiya weathering set.

I have numerous Tamiya weathering compacts with different shades, as well as one of the Tamiya weathering stick pens.

To be honest I tend not to use the Tamiya weathering stuff so much these days. I have found that Mig pigments give a far wider range of use, from dust, through to rain marks, and heavy mud etc.

They defiantely are useful kits though, I'd say the Tamiya weathering sets offer a great entry level product for people who are starting out in weathering techniques and who are put off by the thought of having to use thinners, turpentine, or acrylic resin.

I still use my Tamiya weathering sets, I actually really like the various metallic effects one I have at home.

I also really like what you've done on the Dreadnought, brilliant work.

How did you get the rust/weathering effect in lines? I've attempted similar with the new GW washes mixed with different colors but never got it too look quite right.

Any help appreciated.

Grey, we talked vastly about this is in Mig's thread, bravo.

I love these two superb war-machines.

sA

Big thanks to you all for your comments ^_^. They really help keep me focused and going on this project!

The Tamiya weathering stuff is indeed a great starter, and I'm already chomping at the bit to jump into a new project I can go absolutely crazy with Mig Productions stuff as well as color modulation and the like. I'm thinking IG...Stay tuned for something more on that in the future (somewhat distant right now though!).

Virus, The lines are simply gryphonne sepia wash watered down slightly and applied to effect.

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For a change of pace I decided I needed to work with something non-green.





Feels sort of busy, but the models ARE busy, being veterans and all. GW really likes to pack on the detailing for vets...I might still go back and simplify things a bit, we'll see.

C&C welcome and wanted as always!

I really like the camo Sons! I don't think it's too busy as you said they've got a lot of detail on them from being Vets.

Looks good as always, I can't wait to see everything together.

I do agree that the camo stripes are an interesting touch, but I think it works.

Can't wait to see the full army!

Love them

You are good at weathering

The camo on those desert ones is nice man, like it alot.

That land raider is just so sweet

The camo marines are good but I like the regular SOMs better.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks for all of the comments folks.

I just feel the need to clarify that the Camo guys are done to honor the original Badab War section of the Rogue Trader book. I've done a slight update on the style of stripes (the eighties weren't kind...) and matched the yellow the best I could with Vallejo model color ^_^.

I've dug down deep to find a bit more motiviation and started another Desert Support Marine:



Just a bit further to go with him. Stay tuned.

You made me like camo marines. Your work in this thread is amazing!!

Unusual with camo marines, still it looks awesome

It's always a joy to tread this log, the Sons of Medusa are looking fine even with (and probably because of) the obscenely bright green you are using.



The camo marines are looking great too, the stripes are subtle enough to make the model not too busy and the muted yellow you've got going there is awesome.

Edit: As flattered as I am, overt swearing is against the rules ^_-.... -grey_death

That veteran's finger looks phallic. I'd love to see a Grey_Death weathering tutorial on how you did the land raider.

Disjointed Entity wrote:Edit: As flattered as I am, overt swearing is against the rules ^_-.... -grey_death

Damn you rule abiding sir...

But I felt it was very fitting

Is this more to your liking sir?

Fantastic stuff. I always wanted to do a Sons of Medusa army for no other reason than I love their name. Although I dont see the myths of ancient greeks still being around in 40k, but what the hell!

A little bit of progress:

Jawdropping

Shazam.

Nice!

Keep going

The subtle black stripes look ace! Well done

Back on the Sons of Medusa Wagon finally. I think the breaks with other models really helped to motivate me though! I have finished two greenies (minus chapter badge)!



And I've started doing real work on the Techmarine (who I'm using as a MotF) finally. I'm happy with it so far, still a long long way to go:



Hope to finish this one soon!

Nice to see some progress on the Sons again. How exactly are you doing the red on the Techmarine/MotF?

Oooohh!! Hot! I'd love to see some terminators in this scheme, man.

Sooo love the camo sceme on the desert guys and your damgae and weathering skills are beautiful, sir i take my hat off to you

I'm telling you - If I saw a bunch of BRIGHT GREEN death machines smashing towards my position, I'd personally lay my head on the ground so that it might lead to a quicker end ("Stomp!" 'n' "Splat!")... Or leg it. The first sounds better.

Glad to see you back at these guys again mate, they're looking good as ever. Love your weathering too, it balances clean and defined with rough and gritty perfectly.

The red is shaping up nice on the MotF too.

Cheers,

Dante

Thanks for the comments!

UC, the reds are done with mechrite red over a bestial brown base color, washed badab black, brought back up to mechrite red leaving some wash in the recesses, highlight with blood red and finally an even lighter highlight (mostly to the edges) of fiery orange.

petelee, Termies are on the chopping block for paint in this first phase of the army (1500 points) with another unit and land raider in mind for phase 2 (2000 points).

lex, I'm really glad people are digging on the camo, I really like that scheme and it's actually a lot of fun to paint, and rather easy too (go go well covering paints ^_-).

Cosmic, they are pretty ridiculous green, but luckily the addition of the weathering really helps to break it up and ground them a bit. Some of the photos make them out a bit greener then they are (lighting/photo editing), but it's pretty close ^_-...

Dante, I'm glad to be back at them! Hope to ride this momentum a bit and see how far it takes me. Not having much else to do in my time off helps to guide me to paint too...

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A bit of progress after some painting at the shop and now at work:



I am hoping tomorrow he will be finished. So stay tuned around tomorrow night. At the very least more progress will be made ^_-.

That is looking good!!!

Wow the force is really starting to shape up.Can't wait to see more stuff.

That red looks good, man. It's got allot of depth to it. By the way: "...ridiculous green..."-? Light & bright is good, especially orange... Mwhahaha! "Ahem".

That Techmarine looks great man. I might try something similar on my eldar as a general paint scheme.

"Note"
The more I look at that model, the more I want to get it. I think that may be the best SM model available. Looking forward to seeing this done.

Will your all of the "trim" pieces be silver, or are you going to mix it up a bit? Really loving that green BTW, I think it looks great against the red.

Astounding as usual. Well done.

your master of the forge looks wicked! can't wait to see him finished.... no really, I can't wait. Post please!!!

Finally finished the MotF! I ended up getting stuck with life things to do for a few days, but had some time yesterday at work to get him finished up!

Here are some pics (sorry for the quality, the wifey has the good camera x.x). Click for the gallery page:




As an added bonus, I finished up a Green tactical marine last night as well! He was already greened out, and just needed highlighting and detail work done:



Going to work on some more green marines to try and finish out my tactical squads (5 Models left!) before I move on to finishing my Desert Support Squad (only 2 models left for them!)

After that it's on to the Termies and then it's vehicles. Can't wait to see more of my army hitting the field of battle painted ^_^.

I hate it when so called "Real life" gets in the way of the hobby.Anywho looking good I really want to see those termies done up in that scheme.

Deff Dread red Edition wrote:Damn good,coming along nicely now yet again Im going to sit in a corner and cry as I realise almost all the creatures of the earth are better at painting then I.

Do not fear; you have yet to witness my models. Exept my scouts.
I like them.
Great painting though.
*looks wide-eyed with awe*

It's true,I gave a gibbon a a paint brush and it speed painted it's whole army to table top standard in 3 days.I have been working long and hard for many an hour and that monkey beat me,fething monkey!

Yes those nefarious gibbons.
They're stealing all the comission work.
They can't play worth a damn though.

It's not about the winning, oggers... It's about looking good whether you claim victory or gloriously fail... And there's no going wrong with this green - It's so... GrEeN!

Thanks for the comments!

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It's not much progress, but it's progress! Another Green Marine added to the bunch:



4 more to go before I am done with basic troopers. Expect more progress tomorrow ^_-.

Like the green.

Simple and very effective. It's going to look really cool when you plop them all down in front of someone.

Very nice, contrasty color.
Good work.

But one question:

Why are all your tanks painted in the Medusa-sheme - Maybe you should add a Landspeeder painted in the desert-sheme, for balancing your army...
Otherwise, the desert-marines will be sad, because they have no own vehicle...^^

The C-K

A very, very impressive blog so far. Can't wait to see more .

Yeah, a desert Landspeeder could act like a reconnaissance vehicle. That, however, is up to you! Keep it up, man.

Cosmic wrote: Yeah, a desert Landspeeder could act like a reconnaissance vehicle. That, however, is up to you! Keep it up, man.

New Scout Speeder?

yeaa come on vehicle with desert camo would be sick

Like everyone else said, This thread is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I also think a desert landspeeder storm would look awesome.

Well there ya go GD, you have no other alternative now, the Internet has spoken

Ok! So I never had plans to do a landspeeder in the desert scheme. Mainly because I didn't plan on taking a landspeeder in this army! BUT, I did want to use the desert scheme again, so your peer pressure has worked its evilness and I give you this:



You can see the last three tacticals and the last two Support squad members here as well.

Oh and I finished another sergeant, haven't taken photos of him just yet ^_-. Will get that as I have a bit more to show!

Aww but a Landspeeder would be cool D:

Is this going to have similiar accents to the other desert Camouflage? If so, how will you implement that? I always find the greatest difficulty with Camo is scaling it.

sA

The nagging was a success! Right, I REALLY think that a green Reaver Titan would just look perfect beside all the other guys... Well, maybe that's a little too much to ask. A Razorback's more than good enough - Give it the gift of awesomeness, GD!

Bugger nagging lets just promise to kidnap his family if he doesn't do what we want!
LOL.

Anywho,nice progress,can't wait to see that landraider all done up.

Any chance of details on how you built that beautiful Twin-Linked Autocannon on the Dreadnought? From the looks of things one could build something similar for the left hand side using the Missile Launcher.

Hey guys, thanks for the comments!

Nurglitch, The autocannon arm is just the IG Autocannons cut down and placed appropriately. The cabling etc removed and a bit of plasticard to help fill some gaps. I don't know that the missle launcher would look the same, but I do think you can easily convert it to house them.

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Camo's awesome

That's really quick progress - BUT NOT FAST ENOUGH!... "Ahem." What I meant to say was: Keep the ball rolling smoothly man.

I think you've got the camo in proportion with the tank, too. It's rare to see a SM vehicle with camo. Sometimes you do, but it just never fits in with the rest of the army. This guy, however, obviously does (...Although he's got a little way to go yet, but it's still all there).

Fantastic work!!!

Cosmic wrote: BUT NOT FAST ENOUGH!...

Daphne?
cookie for anyone that gets the reference

anyway back on topic, im loving your latest works Grey_Death
Keep them coming...

From start to the end of page 9 fantastic work GD, shame gw misses out over 1/2 the chapters.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Cosmic wrote: BUT NOT FAST ENOUGH!...

Daphne?
cookie for anyone that gets the reference

anyway back on topic, im loving your latest works Grey_Death
Keep them coming...

Heroes?

All of this is outstanding. I didn't really like the Chapter in the fluff side of things as I couldn't really take them seriously enough but this blog may have swayed me a little

damm loveing the camoed tank, the proportion of the power armour stripes to tank stripes is just right

Nice camo

Oh yeah! Badab War has just been released by BoLS...

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2009/08/play-aid-badab-war.html

Contains much Sons of Medusa goodness!

I have it but not looked through it 100% yet

The Battle worn Marines look amazing!

I love the chipping and battle damage.

Your master of the forge is also very impressive, nice metal work on the Servo Harness!

Thanks for all of the comments guys ^_^. I'm really happy with my showing in the Badab War book. I wish I could have had more completed for other photos, but I'll take what I have in there right now and be happy!

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I know it's been a while x.x, but I finally had time to finish off my Razorback. It took a while longer than expected, but that was completely thanks to school and work. Now that I'm done with both for a while, I'll have a bit of time to put into the marines!



I hope to continue working on the boys this week with a bit more dedication in prep for BolsCon. If you guys are going to be there, I'll be doing some free play. I much prefer it to the tourny scene ^_-.

Nice rhino , this army is looking good .

Thought you would of put Fred Reed as the Griffins Chapter Master he did the big army in one of the WD

Your painting just keeps getting more awesome.Keep up the good work.

Ive just looked through the whole thread now, and I have to say i love those marines.

The Desert Camo vets are also a nice variation. Stunning on all counts.

Vitruvian

Entire thread read.

Absolutely stunning work! Weathering and battle damage are fantastic.

Love how it looks well-equipped without looking to overburdened with gear.

Good thing you had your figs put in the book GD. Made it that much more enjoyable to see great examples of color schemes and such.

Nice job on the desert scheme Rhino as well.

Nice work GD. The Razorback is incredibly impressive. These guys are gonna look sweet on the table-top... Smite them all!

Nice looking razorback. Your weathering techniques create a very atmospheric feel. Well done.

Oooomph!!!!

Very nice models indeed!! So nicely weathered, you make me want to have a try at it!!

Special congratulations for the Desert Marines!!

Realistic razorback

Great looking razorback. One of my favorite tanks, other than the predator

Great, as usual GD. Your marines were in the Badab War supplement from BoLS? I'm gonna go look it up now...

Thanks for all of the support guys! Really a good feeling to get this sort of response from a project I've been working so hard on for so long!

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I've finally finished the last few tactical marines for the army! And with that I decided it time to take another army photo:



This is just of what's finished so far. It was taken on my cell phone so the quality isn't the greatest, but it gets the point across, IT'S ALMOST DONE.

Oh and a little close up of a few new guys:



Last two desert marines are next and I move on to the Termies!

Man that looks nice on the table. It just punches you right in the eyes.

Very cool, love the colour and the army shots.

STUNNING

Brilliant

Stunning. The tanks and desert marines are supreme.

Beautiful.

Disjointed Entity wrote:Beautiful.

Werdes wrote:Brilliant.

person person wrote:STUNNING.

Cosmic wrote:GREEEN!

Very effective looking when they are all together, that desert camo is great, and that green......wow.

Can't wait to see the termies done, are they going to be assault or tactical?

Mmmmm... can't wait to face these!

Oh yes. This is happening.