There is one isn't there?

We need mannequins who dont respawn clothes you take off them

I would use the Dragon Masks if they weren't so awful looking. I look like some fish-faced freak when I'm wearing them. They remind me of Aun-va

I like em cause I look like Dr. Doom

Is anyone else disappointed that the constant spells are the weakest, and there is only one form of them? I wish there was a better version of the sparks spell. How else can I do Emperor Palpatine voice and shock them to death?

I too was disappointed about the lack of constant spells. Fireballs are nice, but i'd still prefer to spew a stream of lava from my hands.

Bearing in mind that you waste your later shots if the enemy moves during casting (with the single lightning spells) or whilst the spell travels (with firebolt/fireball and ice spear/ice storm), I think a stronger constant spell should be in there somewhere, especially when fireballs and the likes cost so much to cast for little reliability against a target that isn't running at you in a straight line.

And this right here is why there are mods. As soon as I get the modding kit, I'm going to do two things:

1- re-vamp the Crafting system, so Smelting makes sense and there's no limits to what you can craft

2- Create Spell Tomes of at least 5 different magnitudes for every spell and effect in the game, and scatter them around the world/put them in an awesome Castle/Wizard tower's library.

Exactly. You could have
Lvl1 fire lvl2 hellfire lvl3 lava
Lvl1 cold air lvl2 cold air with shards of ice lvl3 pure ice
Lvl1 lightning lvl2 + lvl3 better lightning. Couldnt think of anything

Sparks, Lightning, UNLIMITED POWAAAAHHH!!!

Thing is, fire would have to go Flames, Firestorm, Hellfire, since Magma is very much different.

However, if I ever get into serious magic modding, it would allow me to finally add in some propper Earth Spells. With Runes (and the coding that allows them) you'd be able to have Earth Spikes, with the coding involved in Shouts you could add Tremors of various intensities, and there's always the classic of throwing shards of stone at them.

Seems pretty cool.

So, I just realized why I hate dragons. I couldnt place my hate, until I remembered a sound that caused my heart to skip a beat and for me to draw my weapon in fear (well, more like god damn not another one...) The dreaded screetch of the... Cliff Racer!

Man, I know Ive been being annoying and spounting anti mod stuff, but when I heard that they made a mod taking cliff racers out of morrowind I wanted to buy a pc, no joke

Saint Jiub led the Cliff Racers from Morrowind, after the events of the Nerevarine Prophecies.

Anvildude wrote:And this right here is why there are mods. As soon as I get the modding kit, I'm going to do two things:

1- re-vamp the Crafting system, so Smelting makes sense and there's no limits to what you can craft

2- Create Spell Tomes of at least 5 different magnitudes for every spell and effect in the game, and scatter them around the world/put them in an awesome Castle/Wizard tower's library.

Theres quite a lot of crafting/smelting mods already even without the kit, though not the most perfect

http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1601

There are a few destruction revamps, not sure if its what you want though

Grey Templar wrote:I would use the Dragon Masks if they weren't so awful looking. I look like some fish-faced freak when I'm wearing them. They remind me of Aun-va

If they replaced the "mask" section of the nightingale helmet id be sold lol. I would hardly wear the mask by itself though.

I love the look of the Dragon Priest masks, and frankly wish I could be a Dragon Priest.

I like how each one has its own smithing ingot needed to improve (iirc Rahgot needs orichalum or w/e, one of then needs corundum)

So, while I wait for a patch to fix my little issue in Markarth, I've started a fun character, and attacked Havdar (the Imperial guard at the beginning) until my sneak reached 100... Now its fun times with stealth mode...

Which is proving interesting to say the least.

iirc the quest for the dragon priests

Iv'e logged up something like 230 hours on it so far.

Is this normal or am I special?

I have played it for 12 hours, since the release..
Damn parents

thenoobbomb wrote:I have played it for 12 hours, since the release..
Damn parents

My thoughts go out to you young sir, that must be REALLY annoying. Don't they at least let you finish the quest your'e on at the time or do they just barge into your room and yank the plug just as your'e about to take an arrow to the knee? Parents are awesome most of the time but they just don't seem to get gaming unless its on a Wii at xmas for some reason. At least it'll last you ages eh?

At this rate it will last him at least the rest of next year...
That's if he plays it like Sol does...
Otherwise it'll take him another year on top of that...
That's good value.

purplefood wrote:At this rate it will last him at least the rest of next year...
That's if he plays it like Sol does...
Otherwise it'll take him another year on top of that...
That's good value.

Eventually Sol will find a way to fly the dragons, apparently he's good at flying things.

I was secretly hoping that you would be able to turn into a dragon. It would be soooo cool to swoop down and destroy Solitude, break off that projection of rock, and watch the city fall into the sea.

My wolf queen awakened quest wont start 3:
Aka its been forever and no courier yet

Also

thats pretty win.
Anyways I just started and im at whiterun, and one thing i've noticed is how easy it is to lose track and start being a mass-murderer.

JohnnoM wrote:thats pretty win.
Anyways I just started and im at whiterun, and one thing i've noticed is how easy it is to lose track and start being a mass-murderer.

Really?

I don't know why, but nowadays I never go on rampages in games like skyrim. (well, I do... after I save but before I turn off the game )

EDIT:
Also, with the arrow in the knee, is that green stuff escaping the body a soul?

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:My wolf queen awakened quest wont start 3:
Aka its been forever and no courier yet

Also

I just completed this on my Dark Elf... I had to cheat (sorta). I died like 9 times, and I literally saved in the room before the event started. Finally I said screw it and felt that a random effect was better than nothing, so I equipped wabbajack, and went to town using it on everything. I turned one of the Draugar into a Daedra, he went on a killing rampage, I killed several others, including the Deathlord. In this game, I haven't even been to Bleak Falls Barrow... I have 0 shouts... It sucks.

Cant believe no one posted this yet

Opened video expecting something good
>mlp
Closed video

I need to finally actually play a nord this time... I think I've played at least one char of every race except nord, orc, and argonian so far (mostly because I refuse to play orc or argonian).

Really? but argonians look awesome and high elves look SUPER FUGLY

My latest character is a dark elf... i put that super stylized hand on his forehead (in red of course) and named him Khaine (of course).. and now he is becoming the Eldar god of war and such things.

All the elves look super fugly. They all have horrible lines on their faces, like they've all had bad plastic surgery.

halonachos wrote:

purplefood wrote:At this rate it will last him at least the rest of next year...
That's if he plays it like Sol does...
Otherwise it'll take him another year on top of that...
That's good value.

Eventually Sol will find a way to fly the dragons, apparently he's good at flying things.

I'm much better than he is...

Melissia wrote:We need a mask stand.

There is one. Look in labyrinthine in the central dome building.
Put on the wooden mask that is there, and you are good.

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Opened video expecting something good
>mlp
Closed video

You are obviously rather behind the times. MLP is now one of the most manly things on the interwebs.


Seriously though, watch it if you haven't already. The new series, Friendship is Magic, that is.

That little yellow pegasus? She won a staring contest with a Cockatrice.

Don't bring that ridiculous show targeted towards 10 year old girls into this thread, please.

Drow in particular look absolutely hideous. I just want a smooth face please D;

Karon wrote:Drow in particular look absolutely hideous. I just want a smooth face please D;

Drow? I think you're in the wrong thread.

Karon, I didnt want to be the first to call you out but its annoying every time you post drow. Youve done it like 5 times, please stop

I've used the term "Drow" for Dark Elf instead of Dunmer throughout the entire thread, going back to before Skyrim was released.

Its not the same thing as bringing in useless MLP spam into the thread, so you may kindly listen to this funny cat.

I also find the use of the word drow annoying in this context.

I'm down with the ponies though.

Karon wrote:I've used the term "Drow" for Dark Elf instead of Dunmer throughout the entire thread, going back to before Skyrim was released.

Its not the same thing as bringing in useless MLP spam into the thread, so you may kindly listen to this funny cat.

Okay, and Drow is a term used in Dungeons and Dragons for dark elves, the Elder Scrolls series calls them Dunmer. At least the MLP vid was relevant to the overall thread, no matter how much I despise MLP:FiM, that much is true.

If you want to feel special by using Drow then that's your prerogative, but the term for Dark Elves in Skyrim is Dunmer and as such whenever you use Drow I will automatically tie your post to D&D.

Same here.

Though speaking of Cockatri (pl?), wouldn't that be an interesting mod. Not certain how you'd manage it, though. Does the Ice Form shout actually solidly freeze the foe? I've only ever been able to try it on a construct, which, unfortunately, was filled with antifreeze.

Yeah if freezes the foe pretty solidly.




Skip towards the end,

There's also a paralyzing spell.

But enough of that, I don't like MLP either and I don't want this to turn into "MLP is awesome woot!" or something else besides Skyrim.

Nude mods are out, woot!

I'm kind of disappointed that it came out that fast.

IMO, I'm surprised it took a whole month for people to release nude mods.

Thought it would have been released within hours of Skyrim being released.

Karon wrote:I've used the term "Drow" for Dark Elf instead of Dunmer throughout the entire thread, going back to before Skyrim was released.

Yes, you've been wrong for a while.

Drow aren't Dunmer. They really aren't even that similar aside from ashen skin, red eyes, and a propensity for politics.

Drow would be interesting in TES though, as a crossover fanfic.


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Iur_tae_mont wrote:IMO, I'm surprised it took a whole month for people to release nude mods.

According to the dates, they've been out for at least two weeks.

It's mostly that the first ones were gak.

Actually check this mod out.

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3592

I don't know if they made it a mod yet, but I would enjoy having a mask for my DB cowl.

Every time I see dunmer, I think it's saying dumber. Thus, drow is a cooler word.

Necros wrote:Every time I see dunmer, I think it's saying dumber. Thus, drow is a cooler word.

If you're a Nord then I think the obligatory name is Gray-Skins.

Well. With a little tweaking, I'm certain the Ice Form effect could be turned into a Stone Form effect. Which would then be perfect for a Stone Gaze, or maybe a shout of that type.

halonachos wrote:

Necros wrote:Every time I see dunmer, I think it's saying dumber. Thus, drow is a cooler word.

If you're a Nord then I think the obligatory name is Gray-Skins.

I thought that the term for any non-Nord for a Nord was 'That foreign tosser.'

Every time I see a dunmer/drow/dark elf, I swear I hear them call me an outlander...then my vision goes red.

Has anyone else just made one bloke and spend crazy time on it?

I'm on 106hrs, ive done all but 4 achieves, and I'm still on the same geezer, a bad ass level 57 redguard who loves to cause bother and steal gak.

Most of my time has been spent on my level 37 Breton Conjuration Warrior (who is now far more Warrior due to bound weapons not scaling well and being massively outperformed by daedric weapons) but my combined time is only 120 hours spread across 3 characters (would be a lot more but bored of it atm).

mattyrm wrote: Has anyone else just made one bloke and spend crazy time on it?

I'm on 106hrs, ive done all but 4 achieves, and I'm still on the same geezer, a bad ass level 57 redguard who loves to cause bother and steal gak.

Just under the 100 hour mark atm. 90 or so of those hours are with 1 guy lol. The other hour were tests so see if i preffered a mage, warrior or a thief, type character, warrior won XD.

mattyrm wrote: Has anyone else just made one bloke and spend crazy time on it?

I'm on 106hrs, ive done all but 4 achieves, and I'm still on the same geezer, a bad ass level 57 redguard who loves to cause bother and steal gak.

All my 8 hrs are in one dude.

I have 113 hours currently logged. All but about 4 of those are on one dude.. I only have a few more achievements to get until Skyrim is "done"

I'm unsure of my current total hours, but I have 35 hours on my lvl 30 Destruction/Heavy Armor/One handed Nord, and like 15 or 20 on my lvl 24 Dark Elf Archer/Assassin/Destruction Mage... BUT I only stopped playing my Nord because the Markarth city guards think I'm still causing trouble with the Forsworn...

No idea how many hours I spent, but it's way up there. My first char I did all the major quest lines and had well over 100 when I felt he was done, and my newer mage has probably have as much as the first, but I'm finding him a bit more boring to play. Sniping stuff with my bow was a lot more fun.

11 hours for me. I've been busy with tests, studying for tests, studying for finals, and finals.

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3413

The earliest version of Midas Spells (some may remember it from Oblivion) was released yesterday. Pretty drow awesome.

Avatar 720 wrote:

halonachos wrote:

Necros wrote:Every time I see dunmer, I think it's saying dumber. Thus, drow is a cooler word.

If you're a Nord then I think the obligatory name is Gray-Skins.

I thought that the term for any non-Nord for a Nord was 'That foreign tosser.'

That's why my word for Nord is "dead". Except for my wife of course, but that's only because she gives me money.

Got to give it up for the shopkeeping spouses in the game, you can ignore them for days on end and they still give you varying amounts of gold. That's some serious dedication there... which makes me think of a mod where you're significant other gets mad at you should you ignore them for more than ten days.

I think a Spouse mod is needed. One where your Spouse cheats on you, gets mad, asks for a fancy necklace...

It would be interesting if you were the subject of a quest...
Like the guard are invesigating you for murder/theft/blackmail which you have randomly committed and they have asked a random adventurer to help them.
You end up in jail where the adventurer comes to:
A) Bust you out
B) Gloat
If he busts you out you lead him to your treasure where you can give it to him or murderise him to death and steal his hat.
If he gloats you can break out later and stab the moose in the giblets whilst he is asleep...

purplefood wrote:It would be interesting if you were the subject of a quest...
Like the guard are invesigating you for murder/theft/blackmail which you have randomly committed and they have asked a random adventurer to help them.
You end up in jail where the adventurer comes to:
A) Bust you out
B) Gloat
If he busts you out you lead him to your treasure where you can give it to him or murderise him to death and steal his hat.
If he gloats you can break out later and stab the moose in the giblets whilst he is asleep...

This is why Skyrim needs multi-player.

Grey Templar wrote:

purplefood wrote:It would be interesting if you were the subject of a quest...
Like the guard are invesigating you for murder/theft/blackmail which you have randomly committed and they have asked a random adventurer to help them.
You end up in jail where the adventurer comes to:
A) Bust you out
B) Gloat
If he busts you out you lead him to your treasure where you can give it to him or murderise him to death and steal his hat.
If he gloats you can break out later and stab the moose in the giblets whilst he is asleep...

This is why Skyrim needs multi-player.

Think this was posted earlier but you may want to look at this:

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=3592

My god. That was incredibly fast. I know someone had been working on an Oblivion Multiplayer, but dang.

Also, does anyone else want to try this no matter the cost?

Anvildude wrote:My god. That was incredibly fast. I know someone had been working on an Oblivion Multiplayer, but dang.

Also, does anyone else want to try this no matter the cost?

I must say I agree. Ill wait until the CK comes out so that they actually make better mods.

It explains so much.

I am really wishing this was an actual cartoon for some reason.

halonachos wrote:


I am really wishing this was an actual cartoon for some reason.

I want this, sooo much And I wouldn't care about the funny look I would get from my siblings

how do you get to high hrothgar, which path do you take?

The only path.

The map should have a town marked (Ivarstead?) which you go to by going around to the other side of the mountain. The path is across a bridge from that town.

If you mean going up to the very top of the mountain, that requires a shout you learn during a quest.

Watch for the troll if you're a low level, and it is possible to run past it entirely after stunning it with the unrelenting force shout.

Though a mage shouldn't have a problem with it unless you literally sped through it ignoring all leveling...


I took a giant on at level one with my mage, heh...

Kk, so you get to Ivarstead and go up the path across the bridge, and thats how you reach the Greybeards for the quest?

Grey Templar wrote:

purplefood wrote:It would be interesting if you were the subject of a quest...
Like the guard are invesigating you for murder/theft/blackmail which you have randomly committed and they have asked a random adventurer to help them.
You end up in jail where the adventurer comes to:
A) Bust you out
B) Gloat
If he busts you out you lead him to your treasure where you can give it to him or murderise him to death and steal his hat.
If he gloats you can break out later and stab the moose in the giblets whilst he is asleep...

This is why Skyrim needs multi-player.

Because of people thinking that they had put the Adoring Fan in Oblivion.

noticed something weird

If you shoot a baddie wearing a battle axe or warhammer in the back, if you hit the axe or warhammer the arrow will bounce off but the baddie will still die.

ive been able to clear a dungeon with 3 ebony arrows this way. I'll just shoot em and collect the arrows that bounce off.

Grey Templar wrote:

halonachos wrote:


I am really wishing this was an actual cartoon for some reason.

I want this, sooo much And I wouldn't care about the funny look I would get from my siblings

I liked how they were wearing somewhat similar things to what they said, like how the Dark Brotherhood chick was wearing black and red. And the song, I liked the song too.

My head exploded, so I shared thoughts and widened my mind.

halonachos wrote:


I am really wishing this was an actual cartoon for some reason.

Haha this brings back memories!

Melissia wrote:Though a mage shouldn't have a problem with it unless you literally sped through it ignoring all leveling...


I took a giant on at level one with my mage, heh...

Was not a mage and I didn't know that it was level 22, its hard to hit a troll that's 12 levels higher than you and live. I use sword and restoration as I said before with some heavy armor I'm equipping with restoration improving enchantments, then I have to upgrade it so I can sneak in heavy armor. Need an ebony cuirass though, I have everything except for the cuirass.

About the cartoon, the guy normally does things like that. He also made Saturday Morning Watchmen and several other videos about Skyrim.

FUS RO DAH




Benny Hinn is truly Dovahkiin.

BWAAAHAHAHA!!

Also, I know this is racist, but I feel bad for the kids who got turned into Khajit and Argonians in the Dovahkiids vid.

Manchu wrote:Also, I know this is racist, but I feel bad for the kids who got turned into Khajit and Argonians in the Dovahkiids vid.

I like Argonians...

I don't I've never liked anthro-animal races that much...though I've already ranted on it enough in this thread.

GangstaMuffin24 wrote:

Manchu wrote:Also, I know this is racist, but I feel bad for the kids who got turned into Khajit and Argonians in the Dovahkiids vid.

I like Argonians...

How can you like those scale-backs?

How can you like those flesh-backs?

Easy, I am one. Although I'm not too fond of the Thalmor altmer, I don't mind the other elves either.

I'll kill anyone if i get paid for it...
I just take more pleasure in killing racist stormcloaks...

Hear, hear, although its almost impossible to get the house in Windhelm if you don't side with the Stormcloaks and i will be honest, the house is pretty cool for its price.

If you don't side with the stormcloaks there's another quest you have to do, but its incredibly eas to miss the trigger for it that its not even funny. Then the console commands on the PC don't seem to help either.

I'm no Stormcloak but it'd be gross to be covered in scales. Just ask Waylon Jones how many girlfriends he has. Being a half-human, half-cat abomination is no better.

If you're havin' race problem i feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but scales ain't one.

purplefood wrote:I got 99 problems but scales ain't one.

Yeah, because you aren't an Argonian.

Manchu wrote:

purplefood wrote:I got 99 problems but scales ain't one.

Yeah, because you aren't an Argonian.

I'm a rapper...
A Dark Elf rapper...

So ... high speechcraft, pickpocket, and alchemy? /thuglife

Manchu, what if having scales was the bees knees and it felt amazing?
Us humans will (hopefully) never know, so I dont think its our call on how it feels

People with psoriasis don't seem to like it. That's what it reminds me of.

Look, I don't want to drive the lizards from Skyrim or anything. I just wouldn't want to be magically transformed into one. That's gak. You and your friends go into a computer game and your buddy is a Nord and your girlfriend is some kind of hottie Dunmer ... and you're a dinosaur man. How do you think that's going to go for you? You still think you'll have a girlfriend by level 2?

If you're havin' race problem i feel bad for you son. I got 99 problems but scales ain't one

I'm a rapper...
A Dark Elf rapper.

So ... high speechcraft, pickpocket, and alchemy? /thuglife

Made my day.

On a side note, when I first played Morrowind I played a Argonian. I was about Halfway to meeting Vivec before i realized the" excuse me miss" people saying was meant for me. I picked a female, and had no clue. I remember thinking to be able to breathe underwater would be a huge plus. One of these days Bethesda will put something in the water besides Beta's and slaughterfish.

It's a pity there's no unarmed combat skill in this ..

What if my girlfriend is a scalie and me being an argonian makes me her dream man?

"It wants somethiiiiiiing?"

"The prey approaches."

Ugh. You're all outlanders!


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Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:What if my girlfriend is a scalie and me being an argonian makes me her dream man?

No problem with that. When animals start having sex with humans and human-stand-ins (elves), that's where I start to vomit.

I shall make that character.
Jay-Z meets Skyrim.

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:What if my girlfriend is a scalie and me being an argonian makes me her dream man?

Can't, none of the argonians and khajiit in Skyrim are open for relationship.

Incorrect. You can marry Argonians.

Melissia wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:What if my girlfriend is a scalie and me being an argonian makes me her dream man?

Can't, none of the argonians and khajiit in Skyrim are open for relationship.

My possible argonian husband/wife disagree with you.

No khajiit can be your spouse, but iirc there are 3 possible argonian spouses

Ah, thought that applied to both beastpeople races.

Its unfair I tell ya

nah, Bethesda is just racist against Furries so they just made it impossable.

Scaleies on the other hand....

If they were racist against furries they'd have made khajiit in to ohmes-raht or somesuch.

Footsloggin is currently kneedeep in Draugr, needs help. Lack of head is currently inhibiting capability to continue movement. Will continue to use Wabbajack... Hey look! A sweetroll!

To deal with your Draugr problem, I reccomend liberal use of the word Vol. It seems to offend Draugr immensley.

Grey Templar wrote:To deal with your Draugr problem, I reccomend liberal use of the word Vol. It seems to offend Draugr immensley.

Maybe its a swear.

Use Dawnbreaker for most effective way of attack.

I beat the story, but I regret to say that I beat it on easy mode. 30 minutes before I go to bed I usually turn the difficulty down to finish whatever quest I'm on and turn it back up the next time I play, forgot to turn it back up...

Playing a Breton mage named Sylar thats a boss with swords.

Did the thieves guild,dark brotherhood,mage's college and a few other magic inspired side quests. Doing the main story now.

My next play through will be a female two hand warrior. Thinking of going imperial or nord.

I think when next I make another character, I'll be making a right proppa Ork.. dual wield one handers, or a big hamma.. Volundrung would go great with him

Manchu wrote:I'm no Stormcloak but it'd be gross to be covered in scales. Just ask Waylon Jones how many girlfriends he has. Being a half-human, half-cat abomination is no better.

Whats the relation to stormcloaks to that?
Those outsiders just dont belong in Skyrim
Tomorrow (then Ill play Skyrim again), Im doing the siege on Solitude, in my all new stormcloak officer armor or the elven armor Ulfric gave me.. (dont ask me how he got it!)
Also, I really like these High Elves/Thalmor.

Completed Blackreach cavern last night.
Fantastic stuff.

Going one hander backed with conjuration currently but on next playthrough will likely go double destro. I've read magic is somewhat overpowered compared to melee/shooting ingame? Certinaly the toughest bosses I've faced so far have been caster heavies.
Does a heavy magic build knock the edge of the games challenge in your opinions?

No.
I practically dont have any spells, am level 9 and a half, but my sword kicks ass, even more when using 2 of them.

Hey all!

just finished the main-quest line! not as epic as i had hoped for, though....
easily done it within 20 minuts, of wich i fought Alduin for only 3 minutes.... quite dissapointing

The Boss thing in 20 minutes, I presume..

The boss was 2 seconds for me >_<

I really wish you could have looted Alduin's body for bones and scales after you kill him.

Soladrin wrote:The boss was 2 seconds for me

Because you abused a power feedback loop...

It isn't hard to see that if you make a game easier it gets easier

Coolyo294 wrote:I really wish you could have looted Alduin's body for bones and scales after you kill him.

Would be cool to do that, but even cooler if they were unique items, that allowed you to create a unique set of armor, or Dragon weapon.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Soladrin wrote:The boss was 2 seconds for me

Because you abused a power feedback loop...

It isn't hard to see that if you make a game easier it gets easier

Seriously, Sol quite complaining about it being so easy and being done with it etc

Coolyo294 wrote:I really wish you could have looted Alduin's body for bones and scales after you kill him.

When I killed him on my first playthrough I noticed that for a split second his body was an option to search, but I didn't click fast enough to see if anything was inside.

With my new character I will see if I can get it open.

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Soladrin wrote:The boss was 2 seconds for me

Because you abused a power feedback loop...

It isn't hard to see that if you make a game easier it gets easier

Seriously, Sol quite complaining about it being so easy and being done with it etc

I have to do something when I'm bored at work.

All the interesting games don't get enough attention on here so I have to stick with something that's actually active

Grey Templar wrote:

Coolyo294 wrote:I really wish you could have looted Alduin's body for bones and scales after you kill him.

When I killed him on my first playthrough I noticed that for a split second his body was an option to search, but I didn't click fast enough to see if anything was inside.

With my new character I will see if I can get it open.

Nothing's in there, when I killed him.

nuts, I wanted black dragon scales

Ratius wrote:Completed Blackreach cavern last night.
Fantastic stuff.

Going one hander backed with conjuration currently but on next playthrough will likely go double destro. I've read magic is somewhat overpowered compared to melee/shooting ingame? Certinaly the toughest bosses I've faced so far have been caster heavies.
Does a heavy magic build knock the edge of the games challenge in your opinions?

I went double destruction and i can attest that it is very strong. But the game isn't very hard on normal at all. I did an expert play-through with a stealth character and that was much more interesting. Sadly master difficulty just guarantee you will spend the game messing with the dumb ai

Double casting destruction is silly powerful.

But can be limiting if you're holding yourself to the paradigm of pure mage. I finally relented and crafted a full suit of Dwemer armour when I got sick of my Wizard dying to two strokes of a bandit's battleaxe.

The other thing is that it doesn't scale like other attacks. the spells pretty much have the same damage output regardless of level, they just take less Mana to cast.

it seems like Magic is really powerful at low levels while combat skills are better at high levels.

Grey Templar wrote:The other thing is that it doesn't scale like other attacks. the spells pretty much have the same damage output regardless of level, they just take less Mana to cast.

it seems like Magic is really powerful at low levels while combat skills are better at high levels.

So dnd is linear warrior, quadratic mage, while TES is linear mage, quadratic warrior?

Soladrin wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Soladrin wrote:The boss was 2 seconds for me

Because you abused a power feedback loop...

It isn't hard to see that if you make a game easier it gets easier

Seriously, Sol quite complaining about it being so easy and being done with it etc

I have to do something when I'm bored at work.

All the interesting games don't get enough attention on here so I have to stick with something that's actually active

Dude you sell drugs to people...
Isn't that interesting enough?

purplefood wrote:

Soladrin wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Soladrin wrote:The boss was 2 seconds for me

Because you abused a power feedback loop...

It isn't hard to see that if you make a game easier it gets easier

Seriously, Sol quite complaining about it being so easy and being done with it etc

I have to do something when I'm bored at work.

All the interesting games don't get enough attention on here so I have to stick with something that's actually active

Dude you sell drugs to people...
Isn't that interesting enough?

If you define waiting around in the freezing cold "interesting".

Melissia wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:The other thing is that it doesn't scale like other attacks. the spells pretty much have the same damage output regardless of level, they just take less Mana to cast.

it seems like Magic is really powerful at low levels while combat skills are better at high levels.

So dnd is linear warrior, quadratic mage, while TES is linear mage, quadratic warrior?

something like that.


But I think they really killed magic by taking away the ability to create your own spells like in oblivion. I liked my Destruction Hammer o Doom(Silver Warhammer with 50 Frost, Lightining, and Fire damage in 50 ft radius on strike)

Hey, how would I transfer save files from one account to another? Pc gamer.

Prawnkus wrote:Hey, how would I transfer save files from one account to another? Pc gamer.

They are stored in my documents/my games/skyrim/saves

or you can just search your pc for .ess files

Whats wabbajack?

Melissia wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:The other thing is that it doesn't scale like other attacks. the spells pretty much have the same damage output regardless of level, they just take less Mana to cast.

it seems like Magic is really powerful at low levels while combat skills are better at high levels.

So dnd is linear warrior, quadratic mage, while TES is linear mage, quadratic warrior?

That would imply that the tes warrior and DnD mage have turning points, they seem to be closer to exponential.

JohnnoM wrote:Whats wabbajack?

A daedric artifact in the form of a staff that has a random spell effect on cast that ranges from summoning dremora to damage to frenzy to turning the target into a pastry.

Joey wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Soladrin wrote:

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Soladrin wrote:The boss was 2 seconds for me

Because you abused a power feedback loop...

It isn't hard to see that if you make a game easier it gets easier

Seriously, Sol quite complaining about it being so easy and being done with it etc

I have to do something when I'm bored at work.

All the interesting games don't get enough attention on here so I have to stick with something that's actually active

Dude you sell drugs to people...
Isn't that interesting enough?

If you define waiting around in the freezing cold "interesting".

He sells them in a shop man...

Has anyone else become a Vampire yet?

I had the thought of having my own badass vampire knight, but the improvements you get from being a vampire seem paltry compared to previous games (especially Morrowind) Have I got some kind of lame version of the disease, that just turns you into the guy from Nosferatu, or is that it? Is there any way of improving it?

The second cool part of my plan was to live in one of the big ruined fortresses I had cleared out, but I take it any items I leave lying around will just disappear if I just leave them there?

I got the disease, then I drank a Cure Diseases potion and it went away

Besides, its too much trouble to feed regularly so you don't burn up every time you go outside.

That's pretty disappointing, makes me wonder if there will be some add-on expansion in the future just to pad it out a bit.

Vamps get better every 24 hours with no feeding, remember

Battle Brother Lucifer wrote:Vamps get better every 24 hours with no feeding, remember

Yeah but the 'better' they get the faster they burn...

Bah, sunlight is for pansy vampires. Real vampires live on the edge!

Also sunlight no longer kills you, just debuffs your stats a little and stops regenration by 100%. So if you have an item thats boosts stamina recovery your stamina would recover still (though at a much slower rate)

Bloody Twilight...

Lord Bingo wrote:Also sunlight no longer kills you, just debuffs your stats a little and stops regenration by 100%. So if you have an item thats boosts stamina recovery your stamina would recover still (though at a much slower rate)

It's easy to circumvent this by sticking to the shadows.

Or sleeping during the daytime, wait a second, crap next im gunna say coffins are actually quite comfy.

purplefood wrote:Bloody Twilight...

I hope people realize in the original Dracula book, Dracula didnt get killed by sunlight, he just couldnt use his awesome vampire powers like turning into an animal/smoke to escape getting killed

kenshin620 wrote:

purplefood wrote:Bloody Twilight...

I hope people realize in the original Dracula book, Dracula didnt get killed by sunlight, he just couldnt use his awesome vampire powers like turning into an animal/smoke to escape getting killed

I quite like that version of Vamps to tell the truth, It makes them all the more deadlier by just being pale humans in the daylight, unstoppable killers at night.

Anyway, anyone else kind of burned out on the game right now? I usually use and abuse Magic, but I hate the magic system in this game, so it feels like it has less for me....

kenshin620 wrote:

purplefood wrote:Bloody Twilight...

I hope people realize in the original Dracula book, Dracula didnt get killed by sunlight, he just couldnt use his awesome vampire powers like turning into an animal/smoke to escape getting killed

He could also turn into fog and command wolves.

Vampire mythology isn't as cut and dry as we all want it to be.

Say guys, I want to get Skyrim, but I heard that there's bugs here and there that when it all adds up it just makes the game annoying to play.

So I wonder, how glitchy is it? like, glitchy as in "it'll freeze every odd minute+terrible animation screw ups", or a "freeze up once in a while" kinda bad?

Also, can I avoid the giant spiders at all? I sort of have arachnophobia...

Warlord Gazghkull Thraka wrote:Say guys, I want to get Skyrim, but I heard that there's bugs here and there that when it all adds up it just makes the game annoying to play.

So I wonder, how glitchy is it? like, glitchy as in "it'll freeze every odd minute+terrible animation screw ups", or a "freeze up once in a while" kinda bad?

Also, can I avoid the giant spiders at all? I sort of have arachnophobia...

There is actually a mod that reskins the spiders into bears.

GangstaMuffin24 wrote:

Warlord Gazghkull Thraka wrote:Say guys, I want to get Skyrim, but I heard that there's bugs here and there that when it all adds up it just makes the game annoying to play.

So I wonder, how glitchy is it? like, glitchy as in "it'll freeze every odd minute+terrible animation screw ups", or a "freeze up once in a while" kinda bad?

Also, can I avoid the giant spiders at all? I sort of have arachnophobia...

There is actually a mod that reskins the spiders into bears.

EVERYTHING IS WORSE WITH BEARS!



http://skyrimnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=28

Slarg232 wrote:Anyway, anyone else kind of burned out on the game right now? I usually use and abuse Magic, but I hate the magic system in this game, so it feels like it has less for me....

Magic was at its best in Daggerfall...

Except for graphically, the entire series was, but that's another argument entirely...

Being unable to create my own spells really annoys me.

In Oblivion I heard people about the alter of spellmaking in the province of Skyrim

I was busy with the Battle for Solitude, killed Tullius, and when I waited a few hours in Solitude to check it by daylight (any cool man attacks at night), I got attacked by 3 hired thugs.. Because I was a thief. The only thing I have ever stolen was, by accident, a basket.

kenshin620 wrote:

purplefood wrote:Bloody Twilight...

I hope people realize in the original Dracula book, Dracula didnt get killed by sunlight, he just couldnt use his awesome vampire powers like turning into an animal/smoke to escape getting killed

IT was a joke...

thenoobbomb wrote:In Oblivion I heard people about the alter of spellmaking in the province of Skyrim

I was busy with the Battle for Solitude, killed Tullius, and when I waited a few hours in Solitude to check it by daylight (any cool man attacks at night), I got attacked by 3 hired thugs.. Because I was a thief. The only thing I have ever stolen was, by accident, a basket.

I keep getting attacked by assassins and I don't know why. they're pretty lame though....

GangstaMuffin24 wrote:

Warlord Gazghkull Thraka wrote:Say guys, I want to get Skyrim, but I heard that there's bugs here and there that when it all adds up it just makes the game annoying to play.

So I wonder, how glitchy is it? like, glitchy as in "it'll freeze every odd minute+terrible animation screw ups", or a "freeze up once in a while" kinda bad?

Also, can I avoid the giant spiders at all? I sort of have arachnophobia...

There is actually a mod that reskins the spiders into bears.

Yeah, but there isn't any animation to the bears and the body isn't actually where the bear's body is(its where the spider's body actually will be)


I prefer the Mud Crab skin. Its a more proper alteration.

But not as funny...

There's a swearing mudcrab mod.

Nine Divines what does that do!!!

Finished last night, I'd echo, somewhat anti climactic but brilliant fun overall.
Bring on the mods.

Melissia wrote:

thenoobbomb wrote:In Oblivion I heard people about the alter of spellmaking in the province of Skyrim

I was busy with the Battle for Solitude, killed Tullius, and when I waited a few hours in Solitude to check it by daylight (any cool man attacks at night), I got attacked by 3 hired thugs.. Because I was a thief. The only thing I have ever stolen was, by accident, a basket.

I keep getting attacked by assassins and I don't know why. they're pretty lame though....

Not when they are with three, you stand in a tent, and they push you in a corner while power attacking with orcish greatswords... (Im level nine/now ten )

I finished all the major quest lines and am now at the "helping random people with insignificant problems" stage. One thing that annoys me is how powerful you can be with high enchanting. My Daedric sword hits 300 and thats not even close to its full potential if i bothered to get my alchemy to 100, you can easily hit in the thousands.
Playing with a friends high elf, its funny to see how much easier the early game is with a mage character.

Sooo, after 40 or so hours of no problems, I got two unfinishable quests in one hour.

First is the Peryite Daedric Quest, as a lever which is supposed to open a spike gate to allow you to get into a dwarven ruin hasn't spawned, so I can't get in.

The other is the librarian guy from the College of Winterhold, who told me to find Chirumavidium in Bleak Falls Barrow, when I had already picked it up, so now I can't get the quest to update, so the dialog won't update to allow me to give him the book.

Anyone else getting the glitch where you cant become thane of the rift?

Problem 1 solved, the missing lever has now spawned.

Urag still won't speak to me about The Chiramavidium though.

Theres got to be a console command to reset the chira no?
Or auto complete the quest via a command.
Unless you're on a console?

could also find more books, unless of course, that was the only book he sent you for...

I think this is a problem with Skyrim. It is fairly easy to mess up future quests by just mucking about and exploring.

Ratius wrote:Theres got to be a console command to reset the chira no?
Or auto complete the quest via a command.
Unless you're on a console?

Yeah, I'm on PS3, otherwise I would've done that

Goliath wrote:

Ratius wrote:Theres got to be a console command to reset the chira no?
Or auto complete the quest via a command.
Unless you're on a console?

Yeah, I'm on PS3, otherwise I would've done that

Aww, poor you.

Consoles are no place to play Elder Scrolls. My condolences to you and your loved ones.


Edit: yes, this is a joke. no, don't start a console vs pc argument.

Grey Templar wrote:I think this is a problem with Skyrim. It is fairly easy to mess up future quests by just mucking about and exploring.

I did this yesterday on the Dawnstar nightmare daedric quest. I went into the library and picked up the quest book before he told me to look for it and he just stood there and wouldn't do anything.

Since im lvl 81 I can never do the Wolf Queen Awakened.

Its triggered by leveling up. Why do game designers still use that mechanic, it ruins the ability to finish every quest etc for us max leveled people

Also, I made my own cool suit of assassin armor and enchanted weapons, however even with most pieces having + 40% 1 hand dmg,
a sneak power attack with my 119 (+ about 60 elemental) dmg dagger still cant kill friggen draugr deathlord with one hit. I hate when games level enimes

At least the leveling enemies isn't as bad as Oblivion was.

I was kinda sick of finding priceless equipment being carried by random bandits.


I like that in Skyrim that at a certain point humans arn't going to really do any damage unless they are part of a quest. Its fun to stroll into a bandit camp and casually slaughter the bandits with backhanded blows

I like that, but hate draugr dungeons. That last one for the main quest? I easily fought 15+ draugr deathlords. its kinda bad when normal draugr are WAY more rare than DEATHLORDS

My brother saved over my game...so pissed

I'm thinking, once I get good at this game, I'm going to make a challenging character.

Hand-to-hand Khajit specialising in speech, alchemy, smithing, enchanting and heavy armour.

Punching Alduin to death ftw.

halonachos wrote:I like the named stuff to decorate my homes with, besides that they make little use to me. Except for Dawnbreaker, I kill enough undead for it to not be useful. After curing my lycanthropy the Ring of Hircine is completely useless, but I keep the daedric artifacts in my safe in Solitude. What have you guys got so far? I have the following:

- Ring of Hircine
- Masque of Clavicus Vile
- Azura's Star
- Mace of Molag Bol
- Dawnbreaker
- Wabbajack

(Can't get Ring of Namira, killed the NPC who gave it to me because I'm running a goody-two-shoes character atm)

All 17...yeah that's right 17!!!

Azura's Star...I like Azura to much to betray her for the black star.
Ebony Mail
Masque of Clavicus Vile
Oghma Infinum
Ring of Hircine
Savior's Hide...yeah both!
Voldenrung
Mehrunes' Razor
Ebony Blade
Dawn Breaker
Mace of Molag Bal
Ring of Namira
Skeleton Key
Spellbreaker
Sanguine Rose
Skull of Coruption
and of course
THE WABBAJACK!!!!
I was bummed that there was no Umbra in this one.

Akroma06 wrote:

halonachos wrote:I like the named stuff to decorate my homes with, besides that they make little use to me. Except for Dawnbreaker, I kill enough undead for it to not be useful. After curing my lycanthropy the Ring of Hircine is completely useless, but I keep the daedric artifacts in my safe in Solitude. What have you guys got so far? I have the following:

- Ring of Hircine
- Masque of Clavicus Vile
- Azura's Star
- Mace of Molag Bol
- Dawnbreaker
- Wabbajack

(Can't get Ring of Namira, killed the NPC who gave it to me because I'm running a goody-two-shoes character atm)

All 17...yeah that's right 17!!!

Azura's Star...I like Azura to much to betray her for the black star.
Ebony Mail
Masque of Clavicus Vile
Oghma Infinum
Ring of Hircine
Savior's Hide...yeah both!
Voldenrung
Mehrunes' Razor
Ebony Blade
Dawn Breaker
Mace of Molag Bal
Ring of Namira
Skeleton Key
Spellbreaker
Sanguine Rose
Skull of Coruption
and of course
THE WABBAJACK!!!!
I was bummed that there was no Umbra in this one.

I'm assuming that you're on PC and used a console command for this, as as far as I am aware you can't get both the saviour's hide and the ring of hircine.

Steam just DLed something for Skyrim, but I can't find anything about it on the intarwebz. Either I timed starting up Steam absolutely perfectly and caught it just as it was released, or it's nothing impressive.

Yeah I just started downloading that too, it's taking a while because I'm also downloading dead space 2 (half price on steam ) though.

I think it's a brand new patch that you caught perfectly

Bah, I now refuse to play until I know what's been changed...

Being a cannibal is extremely usefull. Healing yourself, that is..

Also, its remarkable that people seem to be more busy creating nudity mods then playing the game.
Or am I strange for thinking thats weird?

December 20, 2012
Skyrim Patch Notes

- Guards will no longer tell you that they used to be an adventurer until they took an arrow to the knee

Oh no...
So they now say 'but then I took an cabbage to the knee.'?

Necros wrote:

December 20, 2012
Skyrim Patch Notes

- Guards will no longer tell you that they used to be an adventurer until they took an arrow to the knee

I used to ask for sources, then I took an arrow to the knee.

Avatar 720 wrote:Bah, I now refuse to play until I know what's been changed...

I used to play Skyrim, then I took a patch to the knee.

Goliath wrote:

Akroma06 wrote:

halonachos wrote:I like the named stuff to decorate my homes with, besides that they make little use to me. Except for Dawnbreaker, I kill enough undead for it to not be useful. After curing my lycanthropy the Ring of Hircine is completely useless, but I keep the daedric artifacts in my safe in Solitude. What have you guys got so far? I have the following:

- Ring of Hircine
- Masque of Clavicus Vile
- Azura's Star
- Mace of Molag Bol
- Dawnbreaker
- Wabbajack

(Can't get Ring of Namira, killed the NPC who gave it to me because I'm running a goody-two-shoes character atm)

All 17...yeah that's right 17!!!

Azura's Star...I like Azura to much to betray her for the black star.
Ebony Mail
Masque of Clavicus Vile
Oghma Infinum
Ring of Hircine
Savior's Hide...yeah both!
Voldenrung
Mehrunes' Razor
Ebony Blade
Dawn Breaker
Mace of Molag Bal
Ring of Namira
Skeleton Key
Spellbreaker
Sanguine Rose
Skull of Coruption
and of course
THE WABBAJACK!!!!
I was bummed that there was no Umbra in this one.

I'm assuming that you're on PC and used a console command for this, as as far as I am aware you can't get both the saviour's hide and the ring of hircine.

Nope 360. I don't want to have to shell out $300 every time a new better looking game comes out. There is actually a glitch where you can tell him that you will spare him. This will make the spirit of Hircine that is outside the cave spawn and as long as you don't talk to the other spirit (the one that appears after you kill/skin him) you can go talk to it. So you kill him and quickly...I mean quickly get out of there as the other spirit will appear to give you the savior's hide. Run outside and get the cleansed ring. Turn around and go back in the cave and the second spirit should approach and give you the savior's hide...bam both rewards.

Dude, shut up. Trying to start a console vs pc war by lying ain't cool.

After playing through, although its nothing im too concerned about, i believe there should be a few more achievements/trophies for some things:

- Property Developer, own every house
- Thane of Skyrim, become thane of all 9 holds
- Dragon Relics, find all 10 Dragon Preist masks

Is it even possable to be Thane of all 9 holds?

Melissia wrote:Dude, shut up. Trying to start a console vs pc war by lying ain't cool.

What?! I'm not trying to start anything. I have an older laptop that I use for school so I don't want to drop $300 for a gaming computer. I seriously got 'em all. I got the trick from UESP wiki. Besides I'll be the first to admit Skryim has much more options on PC and first person shooters are way better on PC too.

Here's the link.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ill_Met_By_Moonlight

It is entirely possible to obtain both the Ring of Hircine as well as the Savior's Hide. In order to do so, first you must help Sinding eliminate the remaining hunters. After doing so, speak with Sinding to complete his quest objective, then kill him. When you remove his skin, immediately avoid contact with the Hircine's spectral avatar and exit the cave, leading you to the spirit of the white stag, which will then reward you with the uncursed Ring of Hircine. Now re-enter the cave and speak with Hircine's spectral avatar to receive the Savior's Hide.

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Grey Templar wrote:Is it even possable to be Thane of all 9 holds?

I believe so, but I hit a glitch where the guy in Windhelm won't sell me the house so I can't be thane. I did this after the imperial questline ended. I can't even do the quest to solve the murder. I did it on another charachter so I know what happens.

horrible thing...doesnt really have anything to do with the updtes stuff:

while doing the main-quest line, there was a convention like thing in high hrothgar. with the greybeards, stormcloacks, blades and imperials. but after that, i lost ulfric. he's nowhere!. and i think i have to talk to him, as i liberated etire skyrim from imperials by killing alduin... i think this isnt right, though.....

Grabzak Dirtyfighter wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:I think this is a problem with Skyrim. It is fairly easy to mess up future quests by just mucking about and exploring.

I did this yesterday on the Dawnstar nightmare daedric quest. I went into the library and picked up the quest book before he told me to look for it and he just stood there and wouldn't do anything.

I did that as well, but you can just talk to him and a dialogue option for "I found the book" should come up.

Failing that try dropping and re-picking up the book.

while doing the main-quest line, there was a convention like thing in high hrothgar. with the greybeards, stormcloacks, blades and imperials.

I dont recall this at all. What part of the main quest line does it take place at?

Try back in the castle in Windhelm for Ulfric.

Ratius wrote:

while doing the main-quest line, there was a convention like thing in high hrothgar. with the greybeards, stormcloacks, blades and imperials.

I dont recall this at all. What part of the main quest line does it take place at?

Try back in the castle in Windhelm for Ulfric.

Ahhhh very interesting!

not sure the faceplam was necessary :(

I took whiterun too, and I still ran into that problem. Made me start over.

Grey Templar wrote:Is it even possable to be Thane of all 9 holds?

It is indeed but there seems to be a glitch where the jarl of the rift will not open a dialogue box, therefore making it impossible to become thane of the rift. Becoming thane in the Rift, the Reach, Eastmarch and Haafingar also requires you to buy a house, but can be avoided with the "free house" glitch/cheat.

Ratius wrote:Ahhhh very interesting!

Spoiler:

I did attack Whiterun as Stormcloaks,

not sure the faceplam was necessary :(

I was coping and pasting from a different thread on a local forum that is talking about the same quest.. That's a major my bad. It's gone now though.




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vodo40k wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:Is it even possable to be Thane of all 9 holds?

It is indeed but there seems to be a glitch where the jarl of the rift will not open a dialogue box, therefore making it impossible to become thane of the rift. Becoming thane in the Rift, the Reach, Eastmarch and Haafingar also requires you to buy a house, but can be avoided with the "free house" glitch/cheat.

What is this glitch you speak of? Is it a console only thing or can I do it on my 369 and will I be able to upgrade my houses?

No problem dude!

Akroma06 wrote:

Ratius wrote:Ahhhh very interesting!

Spoiler:

I did attack Whiterun as Stormcloaks,

not sure the faceplam was necessary :(

I was coping and pasting from a different thread on a local forum that is talking about the same quest.. That's a major my bad. It's gone now though.

Spoiler:

As to the quest itself its actually kind of interesting, but I don't know if you can do it if you say join the legion and don't do the quests past the initiation will you have to continue the civil war quests or will it just end them?

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vodo40k wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:Is it even possable to be Thane of all 9 holds?

It is indeed but there seems to be a glitch where the jarl of the rift will not open a dialogue box, therefore making it impossible to become thane of the rift. Becoming thane in the Rift, the Reach, Eastmarch and Haafingar also requires you to buy a house, but can be avoided with the "free house" glitch/cheat.

What is this glitch you speak of? Is it a console only thing or can I do it on my 369 and will I be able to upgrade my houses?

No its quite simple really. Find the steward you want to buy a house from (it also works for buying upgrades) and make sure their standing next to something you can store money in. This is usually easiest at night as their beds are usually close to a chest/wardrobe/sack ect. Then quite simply request to buy the house/upgrade. While they are talking quickly exit the dialogue and store all your money in the container. Then wait for them to finnish talking and you will get the house key/upgrade without them taking any money. Then simply retrieve your money from the container, rinse and repeat. There are several vids that show you how to do this.

Wow!!! That's sweet. Would a companion work as a "container?"

The Windhelm house can only be bought if you have finished the quest with that murderer.

Ok...I've had it start in 3 other games not this one though. I thought you could buy the house as an optional starting point to the quest.

Akroma06 wrote:Wow!!! That's sweet. Would a companion work as a "container?"

Probably not as it would take too long for them to say "I am swooooorn to carry your burdens" and then open their inventory interface. The gold would be removed from your inventory by the time the interface opened.

on the PS3 anyway, if you click a person or merchant to start talking, you can jump to the end of what they're saying if you hit the X button. So you don't have to wait for Lydia to finish talking, just hit X to talk to her, wait half a second and hit X again and her menu opens up while she's still talking.

Necros wrote:on the PS3 anyway, if you click a person or merchant to start talking, you can jump to the end of what they're saying if you hit the X button. So you don't have to wait for Lydia to finish talking, just hit X to talk to her, wait half a second and hit X again and her menu opens up while she's still talking.

Ah thats probably true just quicker the other way, especially if your house has LOTS of upgrades.

Necros wrote:on the PS3 anyway, if you click a person or merchant to start talking, you can jump to the end of what they're saying if you hit the X button. So you don't have to wait for Lydia to finish talking, just hit X to talk to her, wait half a second and hit X again and her menu opens up while she's still talking.

Yeah I can press A on the 360 to just make her stop the current line. I was thinking of someone like faedenhal or sven who just says something like "sure" or "just leave me something ok?"

for some reason this is the THIRD time I've been asked to retrieve the Helm of Winterhold and each time it's in a different cave...

also I retrieved the Musical Instruments for the bard college quests and now im glitched and they wont disappear from my inventory...and Im worried that some quest flags might not show since the dialogue options are now stuck at "I found the Lute/drum etc"

rar!

So, can you actually play the musical instruments?

No. You become a bitch for the Guild and you fetch their gak for them.

I.E. Their instruments.

Who here has joined the dark brotherhood? I did after I did all the quests for the companions, and unlocked the werewolf, which I might add is suhweeeet!

Werewolf was blah, Dark Brotherhood is schweet.

DB was awesome I had to do the wedding quest as I didn't want a bounty to tarnish my perfect record... I did end up getting a 1500 gold bounty during that questline though... But I managed to go all Book repository on her...

Coolyo294 wrote:Werewolf was blah, Dark Brotherhood is schweet.

Haha, it kinda is, but the immunity to disease makes it worthwhile. Yeah, you get that as a vampire too, but vampire is too much trouble.


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Alfndrate wrote:DB was awesome I had to do the wedding quest as I didn't want a bounty to tarnish my perfect record... I did end up getting a 1500 gold bounty during that questline though... But I managed to go all Book repository on her...

Really? I just walked right up to her, and did an instant kill attack, since one of the perks causes you to decapitate an enemy.

remilia_scarlet wrote:

Coolyo294 wrote:Werewolf was blah, Dark Brotherhood is schweet.

Haha, it kinda is, but the immunity to disease makes it worthwhile. Yeah, you get that as a vampire too, but vampire is too much trouble.

Pffft. Vampirism is awesome. It augments my already super high sneak skill and lets me do all kinds of cool magic stuff.

Yeah, but if you don't constantly feed, the villagers will attack you.

The barracks in Hold Capitols are an extremely good place to find people to feed on, so I never become a lvl. 4 Vampire.

yeah, that's true. I went to riverwood usually.

I did the DB questline, mainly for shaddowmere as horses die notoriously easily. I wasn't a fan of doing it as it doesn't go with my "honourable" play style, i.e I don't like killing innocent people. I only did It so I would have control of all the major organisations in Skyrim.
I found it funny when killing the "Emperor" when i was running from the trap with half of solitudes guards and legionaries after me, I was simply stopped by one guard and demanded I pay the bounty. I did so and every guard decided to go back to normal, aren't I still a wanted criminal? Guess not.

Ratius wrote:

while doing the main-quest line, there was a convention like thing in high hrothgar. with the greybeards, stormcloacks, blades and imperials.

I dont recall this at all. What part of the main quest line does it take place at?

Try back in the castle in Windhelm for Ulfric.

well, immediatly after killing alduin.

i tried going to windhelm several times, but he's not to be seen anywhere! :(

He just doesnt like you
Because you smell like wet dog

vodo40k wrote:I did the DB questline, mainly for shaddowmere as horses die notoriously easily. I wasn't a fan of doing it as it doesn't go with my "honourable" play style, i.e I don't like killing innocent people. I only did It so I would have control of all the major organisations in Skyrim.
I found it funny when killing the "Emperor" when i was running from the trap with half of solitudes guards and legionaries after me, I was simply stopped by one guard and demanded I pay the bounty. I did so and every guard decided to go back to normal, aren't I still a wanted criminal? Guess not.

I found it interesting that they thought 2 special guards could take me.
I'm the freaking dragonborn and an agent of Nocturna, not to mention general stabby badass.

Both the imperial and stormcloak have good endings...

I'm on my 3rd and so far favorite char now, going mostly all heavy armor, 2 handed & smithing with a little archery and enchanting thrown in. It's nice to be able to take more than 2 hits from big stuff. I did the thieves guild stuff just to get the skeleton key to keep for me forever. Master lock shmaster lock!

Melissia wrote:Both the imperial and stormcloak have good endings...

Spoiler:

The Thalmor are trying to get people to stop worshipping in Talos because if nobody worships Talos all of reality will cease to exist and they think that they can make use of this... somehow... to make only high elves exist, even though they won't be in existence to do so.

So stormcloaks have a nice ending because they prevent this outright-- Talos worship is free in their reign, and every Thalmor in the region get brutally murdered, and I'm okay with that.

At the same time... the Imperials seem to be much... nicer to everyone. Especially when you take over the last Stormcloak fortress-- the guy who becomes Jarl there is practically a saint. And of course, keeping the Empire together screws the Thalmor over too, as this strengthens the Empire to help them fight back against the Thalmor (especially after I've slaughtered every Thalmor I legally could). And besides, the Empire doesn't really ban Talos worship anyway, not in Skyrim at least, they're only humoring the Thalmor until they're strong enough to fight back.

thenoobbomb wrote:

Melissia wrote:Both the imperial and stormcloak have good endings...

Spoiler:

The Thalmor are trying to get people to stop worshipping in Talos because if nobody worships Talos all of reality will cease to exist and they think that they can make use of this... somehow... to make only high elves exist, even though they won't be in existence to do so.

So stormcloaks have a nice ending because they prevent this outright-- Talos worship is free in their reign, and every Thalmor in the region get brutally murdered, and I'm okay with that.

At the same time... the Imperials seem to be much... nicer to everyone. Especially when you take over the last Stormcloak fortress-- the guy who becomes Jarl there is practically a saint. And of course, keeping the Empire together screws the Thalmor over too, as this strengthens the Empire to help them fight back against the Thalmor (especially after I've slaughtered every Thalmor I legally could). And besides, the Empire doesn't really ban Talos worship anyway, not in Skyrim at least, they're only humoring the Thalmor until they're strong enough to fight back.

Spoiler:

Sp putting Ulfric's head on a stake and slaughter every Talos worshipper is nice?

He tried to seccede skyrim from the empire, created a rebellion, and killed the high king of skyrim.

Besides, he was dead, it's not as if he would mind

Also, you don't have to put every talos worshipper's head on a stake.

That's the Thalmor, not the Empire. As I said, the Empire tolerates Talos worship, despite the decree by the Thalmor.

Melissia wrote:Also, you don't have to put every talos worshipper's head on a stake.

That's the Thalmor, not the Empire. As I said, the Empire tolerates Talos worship, despite the decree by the Thalmor.

As proven by

This is also referenced by the fact that when you first ask about Talos worshipping in Riverwood, it is mentioned that no one really cared about the little Talos shrines that people had... at least not until Ulfric yelled angrily at the High King.

Also, Whiterun has a massive Talos shrine in the middle of it, you pass by it every time you go to Dragonreach.

If you call a small statue placed on a wall and a mad cretin ranting and raving at you, a 'massive Talos shrine' then yes, it does have one

That guy pisses me off so bad

I thought there was something behind that shrine that was dedicated to Talos?

There might be, but I haven't noticed it or i've forgotten it. Whiterun gets boring after a while, and I tend to just watch the floor and directly ahead of me, so anything outside of that linear sight inside a town largely gets ignored.

Melissia wrote:I thought there was something behind that shrine that was dedicated to Talos?

Nope, just a statue.

... of Talos?

Presumably.

It is Mel. Quite a large one at that

Do you even get ending screens in skyrim like in the Fallout games? I beat the main quest and nothing happened.

Since my first attempt at an assassin sort of character was a bit of a failure, I decided to try again with a different character, and instantly found how awesome it is running around with two daggers and being all but invisible.

I've been about 1 foot from someone's face and been undetected, almost run into someone walking towards me and stayed undetected, opened up someone's back without the guy next to him realising...

I probably only need the one dagger, since I get x30 damage due to the x15 perk and Shrouded Gloves, so shouldn't have to dual power attack anything from the shadows to kill it, but hell it's fun to simply use nothing but daggers.

It makes those times where you feth up much more interesting than they are when you simply pull two war axes out of your arse, switch to Unrelenting Force or Marked for Death, pop a few potions, don your fighting armour and go to town on those sorry SoBs. I've quite taken to fighting my way out of things using only my daggers, my cunning, and the Disarm shout, and it makes it all the more epic when you win.

^Lol.

Saw this on a friends facebook, felt the need to share it:

Avatar 720 wrote:Since my first attempt at an assassin sort of character was a bit of a failure, I decided to try again with a different character, and instantly found how awesome it is running around with two daggers and being all but invisible.

I've been about 1 foot from someone's face and been undetected, almost run into someone walking towards me and stayed undetected, opened up someone's back without the guy next to him realising...

I probably only need the one dagger, since I get x30 damage due to the x15 perk and Shrouded Gloves, so shouldn't have to dual power attack anything from the shadows to kill it, but hell it's fun to simply use nothing but daggers.

It makes those times where you feth up much more interesting than they are when you simply pull two war axes out of your arse, switch to Unrelenting Force or Marked for Death, pop a few potions, don your fighting armour and go to town on those sorry SoBs. I've quite taken to fighting my way out of things using only my daggers, my cunning, and the Disarm shout, and it makes it all the more epic when you win.

I agree with you very much there. Especially if you get yourself up to 100 Sneak.

Swordwind wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:Since my first attempt at an assassin sort of character was a bit of a failure, I decided to try again with a different character, and instantly found how awesome it is running around with two daggers and being all but invisible.

I've been about 1 foot from someone's face and been undetected, almost run into someone walking towards me and stayed undetected, opened up someone's back without the guy next to him realising...

I probably only need the one dagger, since I get x30 damage due to the x15 perk and Shrouded Gloves, so shouldn't have to dual power attack anything from the shadows to kill it, but hell it's fun to simply use nothing but daggers.

It makes those times where you feth up much more interesting than they are when you simply pull two war axes out of your arse, switch to Unrelenting Force or Marked for Death, pop a few potions, don your fighting armour and go to town on those sorry SoBs. I've quite taken to fighting my way out of things using only my daggers, my cunning, and the Disarm shout, and it makes it all the more epic when you win.

I agree with you very much there. Especially if you get yourself up to 100 Sneak.

That was how I spent the first 2 hours of game play. Just sit there and stab the guy that follows you into the cave. He can't attack back, so you're free to just stab him to death... over and over and over and over... I left at lvl 18 with 100 sneak, like 25 one hand, and 35 destro...

Alfndrate wrote:

Swordwind wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:Since my first attempt at an assassin sort of character was a bit of a failure, I decided to try again with a different character, and instantly found how awesome it is running around with two daggers and being all but invisible.

I've been about 1 foot from someone's face and been undetected, almost run into someone walking towards me and stayed undetected, opened up someone's back without the guy next to him realising...

I probably only need the one dagger, since I get x30 damage due to the x15 perk and Shrouded Gloves, so shouldn't have to dual power attack anything from the shadows to kill it, but hell it's fun to simply use nothing but daggers.

It makes those times where you feth up much more interesting than they are when you simply pull two war axes out of your arse, switch to Unrelenting Force or Marked for Death, pop a few potions, don your fighting armour and go to town on those sorry SoBs. I've quite taken to fighting my way out of things using only my daggers, my cunning, and the Disarm shout, and it makes it all the more epic when you win.

I agree with you very much there. Especially if you get yourself up to 100 Sneak.

That was how I spent the first 2 hours of game play. Just sit there and stab the guy that follows you into the cave. He can't attack back, so you're free to just stab him to death... over and over and over and over... I left at lvl 18 with 100 sneak, like 25 one hand, and 35 destro...

1. Find cave with blind man in it.
2. Face wall behind him.
3. Press autorun after sneaking.
4.???
5. Profit!

I'm a bow/one-handed assassin myself. I'm a Ninja in Daedric armor and a Blades sword

Some folks say magic is easy-mode but the bow is really powerful especially combined with sneak bonus damage. What's more the AI enemies have a tendency to go to where an arrow landed or where a guy gets killed making it even easier.

while powerful, killing bandits with headshots and sneak finishers doesn't get old. I love the backstab and throat slitting animations for the stealth kills. Reminds me of my other favorite game series: Tenchu.

So much so that lately I've been doing "Tenchu"-style dungeon and fort runs where I kill everyone inside without getting detected or killing "Innocents" . If I get detected I reload. I've even managed to complete the Thieves' Guild quest in Markarth without killing anyone and without invisibility potions

Thieve's guild quest in Markarth... the one where you get the stone rubbing? I too did that without potions, but I honestly can't resist a good stealth kill, so I left a trail of bodies in my wake.

Anyone else a bit ticked off at how random sneak seems when you're playing on Master? Some enemies don't notice me if I run around in circles around them, others spot me and kill me as if they had some sort of orbital super-scanner. It gets really old to walk around a corner only to have some random forsworn forager fire a flippin 7 damage arrow at you and take 300 damage, despite having over 300 armour.

Oh, and Alduin redux was a pretty silly fight too: died five times because he bugged out and stayed immortal despite me shouting him down, killed him when he stopped bugging. All I have is 100 blacksmithing glass daggers and armour. The fact that there's no way to sneak attack him (like many other major quests) kinda kills the rogue aspect of it too IMO.

Swordwind wrote:1. Find cave with blind man in it.
2. Face wall behind him.
3. Press autorun after sneaking.
4.???
5. Profit!

Mind telling me how to autorun on an xBox? Not all of us want to play this on a PC.


Also, for anyone that doesn't mind playing it on a PC, Steam has Skyrim today at 33% off...

Redguard was cool....duelist person for the win! (The game, not the race....though Redguards are cool too)

I've been playing it and some person who I was helping to slay a Lich walked in the of my axe as I swang it and I killed her in 1 hit, failed the quest and the Lich reanimated her. I re-loaded it and killed him without killing her the seconded time.

Getting pretty sick of NPC followers now. The quest you have to do for the battle-born (or might be grey-mane...) bloke to rescue his brother is the worst.

You have to assault Northwatch Hold, full of Thalmor Elven Guards and mages, with two blokes in barbarian gear and one bloke in barbarian gear who is essential, so will draw all the elves, fall to his knees, and get back up and draw them again whenever you attempt to make a stealthy kill.

I assaulted the hold, stealth killed two elves outside it, then was left running away from the ones that kept chasing me due to the stupidity of the NPCs. I wish there was an option to tell them to wait like there are with companion followers.

Inside the hold was the worst, I couldn't even sneak because the lumbering behemoth behind me made such a racket, and since he doesn't count as a companion follower, he will trigger the eye when you sneak into his view, so I never actually knew if I was discovered or not.

Thank the Divines for the console and the 'Disable' function.

Avatar 720 wrote:Getting pretty sick of NPC followers now. The quest you have to do for the battle-born (or might be grey-mane...) bloke to rescue his brother is the worst.

You have to assault Northwatch Hold, full of Thalmor Elven Guards and mages, with two blokes in barbarian gear and one bloke in barbarian gear who is essential, so will draw all the elves, fall to his knees, and get back up and draw them again whenever you attempt to make a stealthy kill.

I assaulted the hold, stealth killed two elves outside it, then was left running away from the ones that kept chasing me due to the stupidity of the NPCs. I wish there was an option to tell them to wait like there are with companion followers.

Inside the hold was the worst, I couldn't even sneak because the lumbering behemoth behind me made such a racket, and since he doesn't count as a companion follower, he will trigger the eye when you sneak into his view, so I never actually knew if I was discovered or not.

Thank the Divines for the console and the 'Disable' function.

You can go that quest alone, just got to tell the main guy that you can handle it yourself.

Is that before or after he tells you to meet him there? Because he didn't have that option at the fort, and I had no idea what would happen before it all went boobs skyward.

I went there without him as a follower.

Avatar 720 wrote:Is that before or after he tells you to meet him there? Because he didn't have that option at the fort, and I had no idea what would happen before it all went boobs skyward.

Yeah, I told him that I could handle it while still in whiterun, I would think its too late by the time you get up to the fort.

Yesterday, I married that 'Cammilla Valerius'
-Cash
-House
-Epic win

Before I could even 'ask' here, I went ofcourse to Riverwood, but then a Dragon Attacked. Witch capital 'A'
Life is hard...

Just cleared a dungeon called Yngir. Boy the end boss is wierd (I think he bangs dead people!)

JohnnoM wrote:Just cleared a dungeon called Yngir. Boy the end boss is wierd (I think he bangs dead people!)

Pretty standard for dark elves.

Stop making me feel bad about my dark elf.

My Dark Elf is into live people thankfully

At least until Jordis dies...

I thought it was Ork chicks that were into dead people?

Perhaps, maybe it's just all mer

I completely support this message:

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Soladrin wrote:I completely support this message:

http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=4102&v=comments

Yup, it was funny for about a day and when used in good moments but when EVERY SINGLE VIDEO ON YOUTUBE has an arrow in the knee joke in the comments its just plain annoying.

With this being the exception obviously

FINALLY I opened my game yesterday, and only got to play for a little bit before being dragged away to another family Christmas. Im going mage, focusing on Destruction and mainly Summoning. Im pretty impressed with how badass raising dead things can be. Few quick questions

Is enchanting worth it for a spell caster?
Does armor (like steel boots/gloves) affect casting ability?

corpsesarefun wrote:

JohnnoM wrote:Just cleared a dungeon called Yngir. Boy the end boss is wierd (I think he bangs dead people!)

Pretty standard for dark elves.

He's a high elf.

isn't it yngvild though? not yngir?

I used it for the hermaeus mora quest.

also, finally got up to 100 smithing, and now I have legendary dragonscale armour. It's ridiculous, enemies that used to hit me for half my health barely do any damage now.

Just got the 4-disc soundtrack.

Eargasm.

KingCracker wrote:Is enchanting worth it for a spell caster?
Does armor (like steel boots/gloves) affect casting ability?

Yes, and no.

Enchanting allows a spellcaster to create items that add extra mana, mana regen, or add a reduction in cost for their favorite spell type (such as destruction. There is no class that enchantment wouldn't help . But more than the other classes, enchanting is under the mage group of skills, so if you pick the mage stone as your guardian stone, you gain extra experience from enchanting. Of course, you can always fast travel back to the guardian stones to switch (warrior stone for smithing, thief stone for alchemy, mage stone for enchanting) to maximize experience point gain.

I am working on a second mage character whom uses heavy armor that's enchanted to give her more spellcasting ability. She's much more survivable than my robe-based one, even if she's also slower, and takes more perks to maximize effectiveness-- instead of merely enchanting and then the spell groups, it takes enchanting, smithing, heavy armor, and the spell groups. I chose to focus on conjuring for now and give myself two-handed weapons to make use of the bound battle axe until I get the perks to expand my other spell groups.

Goliath wrote:also, finally got up to 100 smithing, and now I have legendary dragonscale armour. It's ridiculous, enemies that used to hit me for half my health barely do any damage now.

Indeed, it's always so worth it to get dragonscale/dragonbone armor.

Though sadly dragonbone armor looks dumb :/

How do you smith better things?
Im at smithing 20-ish and I still can only smith the base things.

JohnnoM wrote:How do you smith better things?
Im at smithing 20-ish and I still can only smith the base things.

As you get higher smithing, and gain levels, you have to put perks in the smithing tree, to access the ability to smith better stuff.

Make lots of iron daggers.

thenoobbomb wrote:Yesterday, I married that 'Cammilla Valerius'
-Cash
-House
-Epic win

Before I could even 'ask' here, I went ofcourse to Riverwood, but then a Dragon Attacked. Witch capital 'A'
Life is hard...

That's nothing, I now own all the houses and upgrades except for Hjolmir in Windhelm. I'm also thane everywhere except for Windhelm thanks to that stupid, glitchy as hell quest "Blood on the Ice".

Is it worth making Ebony armour or should I save my ingots until I can make (and have the other ingredients) for Deadric?

Also, is there a good area to get Daedra hearts? I picked up three in the Star of Asura quest though I've spent one to get Volungdrung already.

Well, you can steal a heart from the companions in whiterun...

I'd rather not, but I need more than just one anyway.

Currently I have 2, I need 3 or 4 more.

4 armour pieces
1 2H weapon (probably Axe, maybe Sword if it's better? Hammers were too slow for me, though the Volendrung seems faster than a normal hammer)

Maybe the bow (but I'm using bows less and less now so...)

Daba wrote:I'd rather not, but I need more than just one anyway.

Currently I have 2, I need 3 or 4 more.

4 armour pieces
1 2H weapon (probably Axe, maybe Sword if it's better? Hammers were too slow for me, though the Volendrung seems faster than a normal hammer)

Maybe the bow (but I'm using bows less and less now so...)

The way I get more deadra hearts is by taking them from the shrine of lord Dagon. You have to do (I think its called) the "Mythic Dawn" quest, started by talking to a guy in Dawnstar at his museum. After you have done most of the quest (finding pieces of a dagger) he wants to make lord Dagon make it whole again. Lord Dagon wants you to kill the other guy to make the dagger. YOU MUST REFUSE THIS, the other guy will give you some money, run and Lord Dagon will send dremora to try and kill you. You can take their hearts and they respawn at his shrine after a certain amount of time (dont ask me how long). DO NOT DO THIS if you ware dead keen on getting the achievement for 15 daedric artefacts, or if you want the dagger (it has a small chance of an insta-kill).

Is that the main way of reoccurring Daedra hearts then?

Can you get a set of Ancient Nord (or just steel) to the armour cap?

I prefer the looks of the early (Iron, Steel, Ancient) sets to the later ones, which generally look too high fantasy.

vodo40k wrote:

Daba wrote:I'd rather not, but I need more than just one anyway.

Currently I have 2, I need 3 or 4 more.

4 armour pieces
1 2H weapon (probably Axe, maybe Sword if it's better? Hammers were too slow for me, though the Volendrung seems faster than a normal hammer)

Maybe the bow (but I'm using bows less and less now so...)

The way I get more deadra hearts is by taking them from the shrine of lord Dagon. You have to do (I think its called) the "Mythic Dawn" quest, started by talking to a guy in Dawnstar at his museum. After you have done most of the quest (finding pieces of a dagger) he wants to make lord Dagon make it whole again. Lord Dagon wants you to kill the other guy to make the dagger. YOU MUST REFUSE THIS, the other guy will give you some money, run and Lord Dagon will send dremora to try and kill you. You can take their hearts and they respawn at his shrine after a certain amount of time (dont ask me how long). DO NOT DO THIS if you ware dead keen on getting the achievement for 15 daedric artefacts, or if you want the dagger (it has a small chance of an insta-kill).

He sends the dremora to kill you even if you do kill the guy, as a final test of your mettle.

So don't refuse to kill him, as you get the key to his shrine, and 2 dremora spawn inside every so often, as well as loads of enchanted gear, and gold and ebony ingots.

And you get a badass dagger that you can show off in the display cases at home.


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Daba wrote:Is it worth making Ebony armour or should I save my ingots until I can make (and have the other ingredients) for Deadric?

Also, is there a good area to get Daedra hearts? I picked up three in the Star of Asura quest though I've spent one to get Volungdrung already.

Dude get daedric. Its the 2nd best armor in the game, beaten only by a daedric artifact.

Daba wrote:Is that the main way of reoccurring Daedra hearts then?

Can you get a set of Ancient Nord (or just steel) to the armour cap?

I prefer the looks of the early (Iron, Steel, Ancient) sets to the later ones, which generally look too high fantasy.

With the "Holy Trinity", aka Smithing, Alchemy and Enchanting, you can get any improvable piece of armour to the armour cap, it just takes a little bit longer for the weaker armour pieces.

How could alchemy and enchanting increase armor? I never understood that.

Make potions of +X% smithing and enchanting gear to have +X% smithing then make the armour.

corpsesarefun wrote:Make potions of +X% smithing and enchanting gear to have +X% smithing then make the armour.

Oh really? That does actually make sense.
How high can the X% go? The strongest I found was 20%.