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The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/27 17:35:48


Post by: Anvildude


Don't forget that you can get potions of +%Enchanting that you can use to make enchantments that give +%Alchemy to make stronger +%Enchanting potions to make better +%Smithing gear, etc etc.

Like the Morrowind Infinite Intelligence loop, where, since the strength of a potion was determined by Int, you could make potions of +Int, drink those, make more potions of +Int that were now stronger, and keep going until you had something like +5000 Intelligence for 15 days potions.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 03:23:17


Post by: Prawnkus


I never realized how much getting attacked by 2 dragons sucked until today...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 03:54:03


Post by: Melissia


JohnnoM wrote:How do you smith better things?
Im at smithing 20-ish and I still can only smith the base things.
Unlock them with perks.

If you mean upgrading them, you do that at a workbench (for armor) or a grindstone (for weapons).


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 05:50:03


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Whoo Hoo! Got SkiRim for Xmas.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 06:26:46


Post by: Bakerofish


Easy daedra hearts

get access to the colleg of winterhold and/or do the thieves guild quest

your fence sells 2 daedra hearts and restocks every cople of days



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 06:28:06


Post by: Chowderhead


Or do Mehrunes Dagon's quest, and get 4 every 3 days for free.

I'm a cheap bastard.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 11:50:56


Post by: Daba


Got the Daedric armour now. I guess I should probably start progressing some of the main story quests again sometime, as I stopped basically after getting Dragonrend.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 12:07:55


Post by: Corpsesarefun


My saves were wiped when I switched to a 64bit OS so I've started again, this time I'm running an imperial resto-speech-warrior with a hatred of undead clad in the most golden looking armour I can find

After this one I'm going to run a vampire thief.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 13:51:05


Post by: KingCracker


Im starting to really dig summoning/destruction. I still suck at enchanting big time, but mostly its my fault, as I continually forget that I have a sou trap spell to make pidly things But man, can I kick some major ass. Im about to get on now, and learn some better summons.



and I must add, Ive read many times on here how you guys kill so many dragons, and Ive gotta say, they are tough! Ive killed 2 though. And added badass perk, Ive killed a Giant at lvl 7 without cheating. It was incredibly hard though, but was up in a tree line on a hill and I kept zig zagging in them and my flame atronach (sp?) and I kept blasting fireballs at it. Took awhile and 2 summons but I beat that bastard!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 14:25:49


Post by: Daba


Dragons get easier as you level up, and they introduce bigger stronger generic dragons as you do.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 15:29:18


Post by: johnscott10


My current character is an Argonian warrior.

Pretty much the same focuses as my first character, Sword and Shield, Light Armour and Restoration.

Iv got a little back story behind him. Currently hes on the run from the Dark Brotherhood as he is a Shadowscale who wasn't interested in the DB, so fled to Skyrim after trying to be assassinated and got caught in the ambush by General Tullius. He hates the DB and the Empire with a vengeance.

You can roughly tell whats going to happen haha.

Though when playin him i completely forgot what I was doing and followed Hadvar at the start.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 15:51:07


Post by: Swordwind


I thought the Shadowscales were a subset of the DB? O_o

Just betrayed the Stormcloaks to the Empire by handing the Jagged Crown over, but only after killing the Emperor.

Fun fun fun.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 16:03:47


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Swordwind wrote:I thought the Shadowscales were a subset of the DB? O_o

Just betrayed the Stormcloaks to the Empire by handing the Jagged Crown over, but only after killing the Emperor.

Fun fun fun.


Shadowscales are a kind of argonian, most of them do join the DB though.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 16:18:37


Post by: johnscott10


From what I learned in Oblivion from the argonian in the DB, Teinaava, Shadowscales are born under the Shadow starsign and are given to the DB. Any that come to age are acepted into the DB.

Followed up by this source:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Shadowscales

I know its a wiki link but they are usually correct. Do not that you do not want to read the Skyrim part as it contains a spoiler if you havnt done the DB questline.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/28 22:58:52


Post by: JohnnoM


Just acquired the Wabbajack, however i havent used it yet, looking forward to it!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 01:13:23


Post by: Swordwind


I only wish that there was a quest for Argonian characters to become a Shadowscale. I changed my sign to the Shadow and all that. );


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 01:14:08


Post by: GalacticDefender


How do I become a werewolf? A lot of the companions quests so far have been kind of boring. (Then again I've only done one REAL quest for them, and that was fun. The first one where you help the guy kill the draugr. All of those fetch quests around Whiterun got old fast)

And any tips for killing the fething Falmer? I had to go all the way back to the surface on the "inscribe the lexicon" quest to get more health potions. Luckily there was a conveniently placed elevator, but it was still a long walk. And WTF a creature that is BLIND should not be able to detect me when I have a potion of invisibility. So yeah how do I kill the damn things more effectively?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 01:15:50


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I find that falmer really don't like being set on fire, other than that they are tough blighters.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 01:16:50


Post by: GalacticDefender


Also how do you join the dark brotherhood? I found their door while randomly wandering around.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 02:05:11


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


GalacticDefender wrote:Also how do you join the dark brotherhood? I found their door while randomly wandering around.


Go to windhelm. Look around until you find something called the "Arentino Residence". Pick the lock. Talk to the kid in there.
Accept his job. Go to riften and waste the old bitch (you'll know what I am talking about). Wait several days. After recieving the scary, go to sleep.

Sweet Dreams


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 09:48:31


Post by: Daba


Aaaand I've obsoleted the Daedric set by being able to go over the cap in Orcish (which I prefer the look of).

My super-smithing isn't enough to get the steel sets up to it yet.

I want to find the rest of the Ancient Nord set though, to look the proper Nordic warrior. Wearing Orcish at the moment though, as although it isn't as Nordish, at least it looks like it's from the same game unlike Daedric and my character's hair doesn't clip through the helmet like Dragonplate...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 12:34:28


Post by: brotherskeeper74


LOL Stupid dragons attacking me in towns. A dragons attacks me in Riverwood and no one is helping me. Not a big deal, I can handle a dragon. Then as I start to do Unrelenting Force, guards come in to help, right at that moment. My UF is maxed out, so the dragon staggers and the guards go flying!

Don't get me wrong, nothing makes me laugh like watching guards ragdoll down the road like the next guy, but then they want to arrest you after words. *sigh* I just killed a dragon, you ex-adventurers don't scare me. Go away or an arrow in your knee will be the least of your problems.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 13:38:46


Post by: Lord Scythican


I am at Level 51 and have my heavy armour, two-handed weapons, smithing, enchanting, alchemy, sneaking, and lock picking maxed out.

My daedric chest armour alone is 490 at the moment and I think I will be able to get it even higher once I make me a few potions that increase my armor improving even more. Right now I have made potions that makes my improving +40%. I can carry a weight of 500 without my magical items. Most stuff I swing my Daedric sword at die in 1 or 2 hits, (even Death Lords). Dragon Priests go down quick too if I get close to them. Usually I freeze them and then run up and smash them.

Dragons go down quick if I get them to land. If I fight one in a town I usually run out and make them follow me to an area where they will land.

My toughest fight so far was fighting an Ancient Dragon, Elder Dragon, and a Dragon Priest at the same time.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 17:09:50


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


CthuluIsSpy wrote:
GalacticDefender wrote:Also how do you join the dark brotherhood? I found their door while randomly wandering around.


Go to windhelm. Look around until you find something called the "Arentino Residence". Pick the lock. Talk to the kid in there.
Accept his job. Go to riften and waste the old bitch (you'll know what I am talking about). Wait several days. After recieving the scary, go to sleep.

Sweet Dreams


See I haven't got around to the DB stuff yet, but I am interested to see if I have borked my character, or if like the dragonstone it'll take that into account. You see, I already killed her, my Dark Elf really didn't like her attitude and murdered her in her sleep the same night she met her.
Same with the dragonstone, I went into a dungeon, fought through, got the stone, then went to Windhelm a few days later, and when the mage asked me to get it, one of the responses was 'oh you mean this old stone here' or words to that effect.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 18:06:37


Post by: Avatar 720


Dark Brotherhood Entry Spoiler (if you want to find out if your char is borken, read it, otherwise, don't)
Spoiler:
It takes it into account, but only when you try and start the quest normally. The conversation with Arentino has an option to say you already killed her.



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I also think i've fethed my rogue a bit. In trying to be as rogue-y as possible, i've neglected everything that allows me to fight things I can't sneak up on. Dragons are fine, but my daggers just bounce off Dragon Priests and higher-level Draugr like Scourges and Deathlords (on the off-chance that killing something triggers them, like the Deathlord in the place where you get the Jagged Crown). They're immune to Disarm, I only have L2 UF, Marked for Death is the only other thing I can use, but the armour degredation on L1 isn't great. Nightingale Strike also doesn't seem to do much.

Up until now i've been relying on stabbing stuff with x30 damage and neglecting the 1h tree something fierce, and i'm starting to feel the effects of doing so.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 18:26:02


Post by: Lint


This game has some really creepy stuff in it, waay creepier than Oblivion.

Has anybody found the ruins (I forget the name) it has a bunch of dark mages around the outside, and inside it has a ton of empty wine bottles laying around. Two people working the forge inside are having a conversation about what's "below" and how disgusting what goes on down there is. Anybody? I got freaked out and since I'm still only lvl 10 I lit out of there to come back later. So what's down there?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 18:30:54


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
GalacticDefender wrote:Also how do you join the dark brotherhood? I found their door while randomly wandering around.


Go to windhelm. Look around until you find something called the "Arentino Residence". Pick the lock. Talk to the kid in there.
Accept his job. Go to riften and waste the old bitch (you'll know what I am talking about). Wait several days. After recieving the scary, go to sleep.

Sweet Dreams


See I haven't got around to the DB stuff yet, but I am interested to see if I have borked my character, or if like the dragonstone it'll take that into account. You see, I already killed her, my Dark Elf really didn't like her attitude and murdered her in her sleep the same night she met her.
Same with the dragonstone, I went into a dungeon, fought through, got the stone, then went to Windhelm a few days later, and when the mage asked me to get it, one of the responses was 'oh you mean this old stone here' or words to that effect.


Well, supposedly you can also join it if you meet this crazy jester guy and help him with his wagon. You can find on the road going from Whiterun.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 18:32:50


Post by: daedalus-templarius


So I managed to get full Daedric legendary armor and sword/shield yesterday, looks pretty epic.

Loving the game.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 18:37:46


Post by: KingCracker


Well I couldnt take it anymore, and decided to put the mage on hold for the time being, and made my Orc warrior. Im going 2 handed and working my ass off on smithing. I have to say, its awesome sauce. I already (like lvl10 last night?) do so much damage with my 2 handed perks its insane.

And finally my first gripe about the game. After working my ass off on smithing, I can make my gear exquisite and just made my first bit of Orc armor. My problem is though, is they didnt make any of the quality you make any different then normal from what Ive seen. So my exquisite Orc warhammer, looks the same as it did the day I made it, and so on. Just a little gripe but still, they should of added some swirls or SOMETHING to embellish armor/weapons that you upgrade.


And Ive smashed down 3 dragons already with this build. Any dragon that lands, just gave itself a death sentence lol. But oddly enough, Ive yet to be able to go toe to toe with a damn frost troll. Dear GOD those things can kick my ass


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 18:50:20


Post by: thenoobbomb


Lint wrote:This game has some really creepy stuff in it, waay creepier than Oblivion.

Has anybody found the ruins (I forget the name) it has a bunch of dark mages around the outside, and inside it has a ton of empty wine bottles laying around. Two people working the forge inside are having a conversation about what's "below" and how disgusting what goes on down there is. Anybody? I got freaked out and since I'm still only lvl 10 I lit out of there to come back later. So what's down there?

I have no idea.
Were it dwemer ruins or a cave?
If Dwemer ruins, it could be Dwemer statues.
If any of both, it could be Falmer.

Anyways, I keep walking trough my (not in game, real!) house singing this:
'Dovahkiin, Dovahkiin, naal ok zin los vahriin, wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal!
Ahrk fin norok paal graan fod nust hon zindro zaan, Dovahkiin, fah hin kogaan mu draal!
Huzrah nu, kul do od, wah aan bok lingrah vod, Aahrk fin tey, boziik fun, do fin gein!
Wo lost fron wah ney dov, ahrk fin reyliik do jul, voth aan suleyk wah ronit faal krein!
Ahrk fin zul, rok drey kod, nau tol morokei frod, rul lot Taazokaan motaad voth kein!
Sahrot Thu'um, med aan tuz, vey zeim hokoron pah, ol fin Dovahkiin komeyt ok rein!
Ahrk fin Kel lost prodah, do ved viing ko fin krah, tol fod zeymah win kein meyz fundein!
Alduin, feyn do jun, kruziik vokun staadnau, voth aan bahlok wah diivon fin lein!
Nuz aan sul, fent alok, fod fin vul dovah nok, fen kos nahlot mahfaeraak ahrk ruz!
Paaz Keizaal fen kos stin nol bein Alduin jot, Dovahkiin kos fin saviik do muz!'

and this, ofcourse:
'The Age of Oppression

We drink to our youth, and to days come and gone. For the age of oppression is now nearly done.
We'll drive out the Empire from this land that we own. With our blood and our steel we will take back our home.
All hail to Ulfric! You are the High King! In your great honor we drink and we sing.
We're the children of Skyrim, and we fight all our lives. And when Sovngarde beckons, every one of us dies!
But this land is ours and we'll see it wiped clean. Of the scourge that has sullied our hopes and our dreams.'
But thats just me, i guess..



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 18:57:59


Post by: KingCracker


Just admit it, you googled it and pasted that


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 19:02:37


Post by: Corpsesarefun


KingCracker wrote:Just admit it, you googled it and pasted that


Skyrim dragon is on my list of fictional languages to learn someday


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 19:04:19


Post by: thenoobbomb


KingCracker wrote:Just admit it, you googled it and pasted that

I googled nothing.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Songs_of_Skyrim


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 19:18:22


Post by: Avatar 720


corpsesarefun wrote:
KingCracker wrote:Just admit it, you googled it and pasted that


Skyrim dragon is on my list of fictional languages to learn someday


Same, right alongside the Ancient Language from the Inheritance Cycle.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 20:04:06


Post by: kirsanth


GalacticDefender wrote: And WTF a creature that is BLIND should not be able to detect me when I have a potion of invisibility.
This sort of boggled me.
Why would a blind creature even notice if you are invisible?

Anyway. . .
Loving it. There is something really fun about beating down dragons with a warhammer.

Especially once Dragonrend is learned.




The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 20:09:50


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


Yeah, they didn't really represent the Falmer's blindness very well.
How are their archers so damned accurate?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 20:11:26


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Avatar 720 wrote:
corpsesarefun wrote:
KingCracker wrote:Just admit it, you googled it and pasted that


Skyrim dragon is on my list of fictional languages to learn someday


Same, right alongside the Ancient Language from the Inheritance Cycle.


I would love a game that used a spell mechanic like that.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 21:01:10


Post by: Akroma06


CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yeah, they didn't really represent the Falmer's blindness very well.
How are their archers so damned accurate?

It's not that they can see, because they are blind. One of the loading screens specifically says that although they are blind they have increased other senses. So although they cannot see you they can probably hear you, smell you (humans do have bad body naturally especially some of those barbarian nords. In addition they may be able to feel as you walk. What I mean is that as you walk the ground can be felt as a vibration. I guess they use one or several of those to give the falmer "sight." So while in the fluff he can't see in game he can.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 21:07:47


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


Akroma06 wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yeah, they didn't really represent the Falmer's blindness very well.
How are their archers so damned accurate?

It's not that they can see, because they are blind. One of the loading screens specifically says that although they are blind they have increased other senses. So although they cannot see you they can probably hear you, smell you (humans do have bad body naturally especially some of those barbarian nords. In addition they may be able to feel as you walk. What I mean is that as you walk the ground can be felt as a vibration. I guess they use one or several of those to give the falmer "sight." So while in the fluff he can't see in game he can.


Good point. But still...don't you need EYES in order to hit with a bow? I would at least expect them to have poor aim.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/29 23:09:09


Post by: Lord Scythican


CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Akroma06 wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:Yeah, they didn't really represent the Falmer's blindness very well.
How are their archers so damned accurate?

It's not that they can see, because they are blind. One of the loading screens specifically says that although they are blind they have increased other senses. So although they cannot see you they can probably hear you, smell you (humans do have bad body naturally especially some of those barbarian nords. In addition they may be able to feel as you walk. What I mean is that as you walk the ground can be felt as a vibration. I guess they use one or several of those to give the falmer "sight." So while in the fluff he can't see in game he can.


Good point. But still...don't you need EYES in order to hit with a bow? I would at least expect them to have poor aim.


To them it doesn't matter if you are invisible or not. Remember if you are blind, everyone is already invisible.





The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 00:33:01


Post by: GalacticDefender


WOW. How big is blackreach?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 00:35:52


Post by: Avatar 720


Too big. Far, far too big.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 00:38:56


Post by: johnscott10


Just played a bit on my new Argonian, Han-Za, so far not done alot. Iv chopped alot of wood for gold, cleared out Embershard mine and currently working my way up to Bleak Falls Barrow.

Still not decided what to do with the Empire Vs Stormcloaks, as well he hates the Empire but Ulfric is also racist so that could anger him aswell .

Onto another note, I found another glitch oddly enough. I managed to sell my equiped arrows, not that odd right?? Well when I went into Embershard mine I could still use my bow and arrow as if nothing had been sold. Easily fixed by obtaining some arrows and reequipt them.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 00:43:19


Post by: GalacticDefender


I wonder when the first DLC will be released.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 01:36:00


Post by: Melissia


As an aside, I wonder when the construction kit will come out? That's when we'll REALLY see mods begin to flow...


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johnscott10 wrote:Still not decided what to do with the Empire Vs Stormcloaks, as well he hates the Empire but Ulfric is also racist so that could anger him aswell .
Dunno if it'd sway your vote, but the Argonians have split from the Empire and actually have invaded and conquered part of Morrowind.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 01:42:20


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Melissia wrote:As an aside, I wonder when the construction kit will come out? That's when we'll REALLY see mods begin to flow...


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johnscott10 wrote:Still not decided what to do with the Empire Vs Stormcloaks, as well he hates the Empire but Ulfric is also racist so that could anger him aswell .
Dunno if it'd sway your vote, but the Argonians have split from the Empire and actually have invaded and conquered part of Morrowind.


Jan IIRC.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 01:43:22


Post by: Melissia


I miss the Create Your Own Spell feature from Daggerfall (taht I think was also in both Morrowind and Oblivion to a lesser extent).


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 01:45:12


Post by: Swordwind


Lint wrote:This game has some really creepy stuff in it, waay creepier than Oblivion.

Has anybody found the ruins (I forget the name) it has a bunch of dark mages around the outside, and inside it has a ton of empty wine bottles laying around. Two people working the forge inside are having a conversation about what's "below" and how disgusting what goes on down there is. Anybody? I got freaked out and since I'm still only lvl 10 I lit out of there to come back later. So what's down there?

I've been there. It's called Movunskar or something to that name. You pass through it during the
Spoiler:
Sanguine Daedric quest
.
I didn't notice anything much down there, except for annoying wizards.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 02:15:56


Post by: Chowderhead


Does anyone know when the Skyrim soundtrack ships?

I ordered it a while back, and it hasn't come.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 02:17:35


Post by: Avatar 720


I think someone put the landing strip lights out and the plane carrying your stuff crashed and is now being looted by some bandits.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 05:24:30


Post by: Bromsy


Melissia wrote:I miss the Create Your Own Spell feature from Daggerfall (taht I think was also in both Morrowind and Oblivion to a lesser extent).


God yes... I would so love it if they did a modest update to daggerfall and re released it. Nothing like levitating over a sea of guards and raining down lightning like a wrathful god.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 18:33:49


Post by: winnertakesall


Avatar 720 wrote:I think someone put the landing strip lights out and the plane carrying your stuff crashed and is now being looted by some bandits.


Someone else just watched Die Hard 2 last night on film 4 me thinks.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 18:47:35


Post by: Avatar 720


winnertakesall wrote:
Avatar 720 wrote:I think someone put the landing strip lights out and the plane carrying your stuff crashed and is now being looted by some bandits.


Someone else just watched Die Hard 2 last night on film 4 me thinks.


I was thinking more along the lines of the Solitude Lighthouse quest, but Die Hard works too


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 18:53:54


Post by: thenoobbomb


johnscott10 wrote:Just played a bit on my new Argonian, Han-Za, so far not done alot. Iv chopped alot of wood for gold, cleared out Embershard mine and currently working my way up to Bleak Falls Barrow.

Still not decided what to do with the Empire Vs Stormcloaks, as well he hates the Empire but Ulfric is also racist so that could anger him aswell .

Onto another note, I found another glitch oddly enough. I managed to sell my equiped arrows, not that odd right?? Well when I went into Embershard mine I could still use my bow and arrow as if nothing had been sold. Easily fixed by obtaining some arrows and reequipt them.

Empire help the damn pixies.
There you have your answer; join the Stormcloak rebellion


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 22:29:56


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Had to pay a fine for hitting a cow with a stray shot while saving a village from a dragon attack. Ungrateful villagers!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/30 22:31:47


Post by: JohnnoM


absolutely hate the tree/bug creature thingies near that town at bottom of the map, they piss me off so much.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 00:25:25


Post by: Wyrmalla


Bromsy wrote:
Melissia wrote:I miss the Create Your Own Spell feature from Daggerfall (taht I think was also in both Morrowind and Oblivion to a lesser extent).


God yes... I would so love it if they did a modest update to daggerfall and re released it. Nothing like levitating over a sea of guards and raining down lightning like a wrathful god.


Arena & Daggerfall are both available for free on the Elder Scrolls site in the downloads section. =P


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 00:49:55


Post by: mattyrm


Im level 60 and i can't buy the house in windhelm thanks to missing blood on the ice earlier.. Im a completist so Im super pissed about it. :(


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 01:46:05


Post by: Melissia


Wyrmalla wrote:Arena & Daggerfall are both available for free on the Elder Scrolls site in the downloads section. =P
I play Daggerfall regularly. It is still awesome, and hard enough to kcik your ass


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 02:11:47


Post by: Anvildude


Never been able to get the Daggerfall download, for whatever reason. Got Arena, but other than the basic fluff, it's not really an 'Elder Scrolls' game, not as I see them, anyways.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 18:42:30


Post by: Dark Apostle 666


I got Skyrim yesterday, and I got as far as the quest from the whiterun wizard: to go and find a dragonstone in a tomb or somesuch, couldn't be bothered and went exploring.
I'm playing as a Nord with heavy armour,(usually) 2-handed sword and a load of sneaky skills....

However, I do have a question, you see, I may have slightly slaughtered the population of riverwood and thrown their corpses into the river.

My question is: whether this means that I will have lost the chances to do certain quests - there's a few who won't die, I assume to do with quests, but I'm a little worried that my killing spree was poorly thought out...

(I've also murdered the family owning the whiterun stables.)


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 18:59:35


Post by: Grey Templar


Well, you probably havn't messed up any quests, but you most certaintly have an insane bounty on your head plus every guard in the vicinity trying to kill you.

You should hold off on the mass murder till you reach level 50+, at that point you are pretty much invincible.

and you actually need to do that Dragonstone quest to advance the story line(If you want to start fighting dragons and getting shouts)





I have a question about the Eye of Magnus quest

Spoiler:
The final battle against that Thalmor dude, do I target him with the staff or keep targeting the eye once he starts attacking? I tried targeting him, he stopped casting spells but he keeps moving too fast to keep the staff on him. Then I ran out of power and soul gems(I even ran upstairs to steal the archmage's soul gems)


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 19:04:00


Post by: Dark Apostle 666


^ Thanks for that, you're right about the bounty, but I murdered the guards as well, so it's all good


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 19:12:13


Post by: Avatar 720


Grey, I think you target the eye (did the quest a while ago and can't quite remember) and then it does something and you can hurt the thalmor guy.

The Staff of Magnus always comes with enough charge to break through the barrier around the college, break his hold on the eye and then kill him, with a bit to spare (which is why the DP that drops it never uses it, and uses his shock spells instead); if you're running out of power then you're doing something wrong, so if you're running low and nothing seems to be having any effect, switch tactics.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 19:25:49


Post by: Grey Templar


He did stop zapping the eye and start attacking me after a few seconds of zapping the eye, but he was still invincible. Do I keep targeting the eye once that happens?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2011/12/31 19:26:52


Post by: Avatar 720


Yes, I think the people who are in with you attack him too, so when you see he's starting to take damage (or the eye does something, i'm not sure) switch to him.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 05:51:50


Post by: brotherskeeper74


Dark Apostle 666 wrote:^ Thanks for that, you're right about the bounty, but I murdered the guards as well, so it's all good


I was going to tell you to slow down on the mass murder, but then I saw your name. You just can't help your self. It just your nature.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 11:08:51


Post by: thenoobbomb


Dark Apostle, you cant have killed them all. Delphine in the inn is necesary.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 12:13:39


Post by: winnertakesall


Grey Templar wrote:He did stop zapping the eye and start attacking me after a few seconds of zapping the eye, but he was still invincible. Do I keep targeting the eye once that happens?


Zap the eye until it closes, then attack the thalmor guy, as he isn't drawing power from the then, because it is closed. If you run out of souls, the flying worm thingies drop lesser soul gems for that purpose.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 13:06:19


Post by: The Epic Chaosdude!!!


Got Skyrim few days ago and Im all over it. Im yet only a level 8 Argonian warrior with shield/blade combo. I just wonder where I can sell my damn dragon bones, since I yet have no money for a house


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 13:24:55


Post by: thenoobbomb


Any standard shop, together with dragon scales.
I always do Riverwood trader, as the guy has plenty of money, Ive married his sister who also has a shop and live there, since I dont have a house yet.

If it will take long before you have a house, buy a Amulet in Riften and mary Camilla valerius in Riverwood. Free house.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 15:32:39


Post by: Avatar 720


thenoobbomb wrote:Dark Apostle, you cant have killed them all. Delphine in the inn is necesary.


Dark Apostle 666 wrote:However, I do have a question, you see, I may have slightly slaughtered the population of riverwood and thrown their corpses into the river.

My question is: whether this means that I will have lost the chances to do certain quests - there's a few who won't die, I assume to do with quests, but I'm a little worried that my killing spree was poorly thought out...

(I've also murdered the family owning the whiterun stables.)


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 17:28:11


Post by: KingCracker


Backstab, +bad ass knife, + the 15x dagger bonus is fething awesome. Lately, Ive been trying to not use my bow in favor of sneaking up and slicing some throats.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 17:29:09


Post by: Avatar 720


Join the Dark Brotherhood and get yourself a pair of Shrouded Gloves for x30 dagger damage in total


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 22:37:07


Post by: vodo40k


The Epic Chaosdude!!! wrote:Got Skyrim few days ago and Im all over it. Im yet only a level 8 Argonian warrior with shield/blade combo. I just wonder where I can sell my damn dragon bones, since I yet have no money for a house


Id save your dragon bones until you get 100 smithing, you can make dragon armor and upgrade it which sells for ALLOT. Also dont bother "buying" a house, use the free house cheat (you still need to have the money for the house but you wont spend it).


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 23:19:02


Post by: JohnnoM


how do you recharge things with soul gems (on 360)?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 23:21:02


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Select the weapon in your inventory, it should have a prompt at the bottom right telling you what button to press.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 23:26:18


Post by: JohnnoM


how do you select the weapon, just scroll down to it?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/01 23:30:32


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Yep, I play PC but it should be pretty much the same.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 02:09:55


Post by: KingCracker


Avatar 720 wrote:Join the Dark Brotherhood and get yourself a pair of Shrouded Gloves for x30 dagger damage in total


How exactly does one join them? Ive read (quickly Ill admit) on some forum, and it didnt make much sense to me, so Ive been doing theives guild.

vodo40k wrote:
The Epic Chaosdude!!! wrote:Got Skyrim few days ago and Im all over it. Im yet only a level 8 Argonian warrior with shield/blade combo. I just wonder where I can sell my damn dragon bones, since I yet have no money for a house


Id save your dragon bones until you get 100 smithing, you can make dragon armor and upgrade it which sells for ALLOT. Also dont bother "buying" a house, use the free house cheat (you still need to have the money for the house but you wont spend it).



Explain this one? Id love to get a house and not pay for it. I burn through cash thanks to keeping my smithing up


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 02:20:11


Post by: Coolyo294


You join the Dark Brotherhood by breaking into Aventus Arentino's house in Windhelm, killing Grelrod the Kind, and then waiting for the message from the Dark Brotherhood.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 07:50:02


Post by: JohnnoM


@Kingcracka

what you have to do is find the person who sells you the house, wait for them to fall asleep and then ask them to buy the house. The quickly exit the chat thingy and deposit all your cash in a drawer, box, crate etc whatever. You'll get the house and your money will still be there. However you stil need the right amount of money.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 12:06:33


Post by: Bleak_Fantasy


I tried to finish the main quest with my level 30+ wizard but when I use the elder scroll the scene just sort of freezes and doesn't finish and I tried doing the fixes online but I'm kind of fethed so I started a new character. I am now playing as a nordic werewolf warrior goddess by the name of Alice Wolf. Hopefully I can finish the main quest and a few other side quests with her and then I can start a 3rd character after that. Thinking of going with a dark elf.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 14:41:06


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


Tbh for me that is a slight shame I have with Skyrim, other than the kids, which would be immune from my wrath anyways, and would cause a huge gakstorm news wise had they allowed it.

I'm a little annoyed they put 'Immortal' npc's in again. From previews leading up to the release I was under the impression they where gone, and in such cases a secondary relative would replace the first.

Just find it breaks the immersion a little, if I want a character who is a psycho, let me live with the concequences of killing key npc's.

Although its not so much for the'psycho' angle, its bugging me for example as my main character has taken a utter dislike/hatred of the Imperial scum in Solitude. She'd love to wipe the place out. However its not possible. It was doubly frustrating as I thought she'd killed one the other day, got him with a finishing move, but they still get back up after a few moments.

Other than that, I can't think of any other gripe that stands out at all, which is quite remarkable for such a big game.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 15:41:40


Post by: Lord of battles


well i got it for christmas finally......and this is the first time ive left my seat......


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 16:01:42


Post by: KingCracker


Coolyo294 wrote:You join the Dark Brotherhood by breaking into Aventus Arentino's house in Windhelm, killing Grelrod the Kind, and then waiting for the message from the Dark Brotherhood.


JohnnoM wrote:@Kingcracka

what you have to do is find the person who sells you the house, wait for them to fall asleep and then ask them to buy the house. The quickly exit the chat thingy and deposit all your cash in a drawer, box, crate etc whatever. You'll get the house and your money will still be there. However you stil need the right amount of money.





Thank you both for the replies! Ill join the brotherhood after I finished the theives guild quests. But Ill do the house thing ASAP, because Im getting sick of holding onto all this crap, because I dont want to just leave it in some random box or on the ground. I did that once in Oblivion, and later to my horror, discovered the game erased all my stuff from the containers.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 21:55:09


Post by: Alfndrate


I just paid a 1000 gold fine in Dawnstar because I killed a man accidentally while saving the city from a freaking Elder dragon... I get no respect


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 22:47:37


Post by: vodo40k


Alfndrate wrote:I just paid a 1000 gold fine in Dawnstar because I killed a man accidentally while saving the city from a freaking Elder dragon... I get no respect


Such is the life of the Dovahkiin....


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/02 22:50:16


Post by: JohnnoM


lol.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 01:58:18


Post by: Alfndrate


vodo40k wrote:
Alfndrate wrote:I just paid a 1000 gold fine in Dawnstar because I killed a man accidentally while saving the city from a freaking Elder dragon... I get no respect


Such is the life of the Dovahkiin....


I know! It only left me with 65 thousand septims


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 06:21:03


Post by: JohnnoM


you poor man, your worst off than the battle-born kid who gets bashed by girls, and has a net worth of 2 septims.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 10:05:15


Post by: winnertakesall


I thought this was funny. Although it is really NSFW, and contains some rather foul language, so don't watch it if you are under 18!






The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 11:26:13


Post by: Bleak_Fantasy




The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 12:20:31


Post by: KingCracker


I followed some random guy down a dark alley and thought, well he made a terrible mistake, went to cut his throat, and instead, he just kindda.......kneeled down in pain. WTF?! I forgot they made the "invincible" guys in this game again. Talk about a snap back to reality




By the by, I found slaughterfish swimming about 75yards inland yesterday. Why is it ALWAS the slaughterfish that are fethed up in these games?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 15:43:08


Post by: Grey Templar


I was fighting this Dragon Priest once and he apparently decided the river's Slaughterfish were a bigger threat then the guy who just ate 2 of his gods


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 16:00:22


Post by: Melissia


Indeed, I want to do that every time someone makes an arrow to the knee joke.

Except I wouldn't stop beating them after the FUS ROH DAH.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 16:10:28


Post by: Grey Templar


I used to make jokes like that, then I took an arrow to the knee


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 16:18:09


Post by: Melissia


Grey Templar wrote:I used to make jokes like that, then I took an arrow to the knee

My lawn.

Get off of it before Clint Eastwood shoots you.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 16:45:33


Post by: Lint


Melissia wrote:
Get off of it before Clint Eastwood shoots you. In the knee.


Fixed it for you.


So I'm almost ready to make my Dragon armour, but I like the way the Daedric armour looks much better. Anybody know the recipe for a +armour skill potion? Would I even be able to craft Daedric armour that's boss enough to replace Dragon?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 16:54:44


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


Lint wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Get off of it before Clint Eastwood shoots you. In the knee.


Fixed it for you.


So I'm almost ready to make my Dragon armour, but I like the way the Daedric armour looks much better. Anybody know the recipe for a +armour skill potion? Would I even be able to craft Daedric armour that's boss enough to replace Dragon?


According to the Skyrim Wiki page, Daedric armor is better than dragon plate for heavy armors, however Dragon Scale is better than the "highest" level of light armor that one can create... Not sure how true that is though.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 16:56:19


Post by: Melissia


Lint wrote:
Melissia wrote:Get off of it before Clint Eastwood shoots you. In the face.
Fixed it for you.
Fixed your fix.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 17:07:53


Post by: Grey Templar


Melissia wrote:
Lint wrote:
Melissia wrote:Get off of it before Clint Eastwood shoots you. In the knee
Fixed it for you.
Fixed your fix.


I used to fix your fixes, then I took an arrow to the knee


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 17:17:35


Post by: Melissia


Grey Templar wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Lint wrote:
Melissia wrote:Get off of it before Clint Eastwood shoots you. In the face
Fixed it for you.
Fixed your fix.


I used to fix your fixes, then I took an arrow to the knee
And then you were brutally slaughtered by an angry dovahkiin.

Seriously, only unoriginal,boring twits use that meme.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 17:29:41


Post by: Grey Templar


maybe, but its so damn funny.

How about this then?

Melissia went bashing "arrow in the knee jokes", the PDF tried to respond and we killed to a man


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 17:43:43


Post by: Melissia


Grey Templar wrote:maybe, but its so damn funny.
It has never been funny.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 18:38:17


Post by: vodo40k


Lol this is just getting ridiculous, its only funny when used in a very few, very appropriate circumstances, not when its in the comments of EVERY VIDEO ON YOUTUBE.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 18:49:05


Post by: thenoobbomb


I dont think anyone posted this yet.



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 18:52:07


Post by: Grey Templar


They did, 8 pages back or so, but it still got shown.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 19:40:36


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Having some very weird mob spawns, two dead draugr fell from the sky on my head the other day and today a living mammoth spawned around 100 foot above the ground then fell to it's death.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 19:44:24


Post by: Avatar 720


Talos is probably getting bored.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 19:59:46


Post by: Grey Templar


corpsesarefun wrote:Having some very weird mob spawns, two dead draugr fell from the sky on my head the other day and today a living mammoth spawned around 100 foot above the ground then fell to it's death.


Ewww, what did it sould like


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 21:28:49


Post by: Anvildude


PhroooOOOOOSPLATTER!!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 22:41:19


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Both just made a thump sound, in the case of the mammoth the giant (who presumably was the mammoths herder) looked quite surprised when it landed.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/03 22:49:54


Post by: Razorspirit


@winnertakesall

Wow, totally just laughed my knees off.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 00:36:07


Post by: Lord Scythican


Melissia wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Lint wrote:
Melissia wrote:Get off of it before Clint Eastwood shoots you. In the face
Fixed it for you.
Fixed your fix.


I used to fix your fixes, then I took an arrow to the knee
And then you were brutally slaughtered by an angry dovahkiin.

Seriously, only unoriginal,boring twits use that meme.


I used to be original, exciting, and wise then I took an arrow in the knee.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 04:34:59


Post by: Jollydevil


Razorspirit wrote:@winnertakesall

Wow, totally just laughed my knees off.



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 05:02:45


Post by: Grey Templar


Lord Scythican wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Grey Templar wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Lint wrote:
Melissia wrote:Get off of it before Clint Eastwood shoots you. In the face
Fixed it for you.
Fixed your fix.


I used to fix your fixes, then I took an arrow to the knee
And then you were brutally slaughtered by an angry dovahkiin.

Seriously, only unoriginal,boring twits use that meme.


I used to be original, exciting, and wise then I took an arrow in the knee.


Mock Melissa once, get your knees whacked.

Mock her twice, get your kneecaps broken.

Mock her three times, your going to be getting the worlds first Apendectomy performed with a knee.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 05:27:30


Post by: Anvildude


I'll try to avoid any bad Memes, but I can't guarantee anything.

I Kneed 'em, man!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 15:16:57


Post by: Melissia


Lord Scythican wrote:I used to be original, exciting, and wise then I took an arrow in the knee.
Okay, that's it. Nobody who uses that meme is a person.

Thus I'm putting anyone who uses it from now on on my ignore list >.<


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 15:50:49


Post by: Ratius


and today a living mammoth spawned around 100 foot above the ground then fell to it's death.




Next time try and get under it and see what happens.



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 16:50:13


Post by: Lord Scythican


Melissia wrote:
Lord Scythican wrote:I used to be original, exciting, and wise then I took an arrow in the knee.
Okay, that's it. Nobody who uses that meme is a person.

Thus I'm putting anyone who uses it from now on on my ignore list >.<


Oh now come on, you might as well back it up to anyone who used it in the last few days. You know I have to make at least one more arrow in the knee joke since you made that statement. It is just kind of hanging there, begging for me to make at least one more arrow in the knee joke.

Oh well, at least I went out with a bang. It could have been worse, I could have taken an arrow in the knee instead of being put on an ignore list. That would have been worse. On the plus side, my chances of getting a disability check would have increased, since I would have had two injuries.

Now I can only get a job as a high school security guard.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 17:09:48


Post by: Avatar 720


Lord Scythican wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Lord Scythican wrote:I used to be original, exciting, and wise then I took an arrow in the knee.
Okay, that's it. Nobody who uses that meme is a person.

Thus I'm putting anyone who uses it from now on on my ignore list >.<


Oh now come on, you might as well back it up to anyone who used it in the last few days. You know I have to make at least one more arrow in the knee joke since you made that statement. It is just kind of hanging there, begging for me to make at least one more arrow in the knee joke.

Oh well, at least I went out with a bang. It could have been worse, I could have taken an arrow in the knee instead of being put on an ignore list. That would have been worse. On the plus side, my chances of getting a disability check would have increased, since I would have had two injuries.

Now I can only get a job as a high school security guard.


Whcih reminds me; someone stole my sweetroll...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 17:30:59


Post by: Melissia


No forviveness. That "joke" is boring and unimaginative, as is anyone who uses it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 18:13:36


Post by: Lord Scythican


Okay I promise not to use it again!

It really isn't funny at all.



How about some better topics?


I wish the glitches in the game would get fixed. I went to liberate the reach and none of the stormcloaks were where they were supposed to be. I waited several times and they never showed up. I gave up and did some other quests since the fort was completely empty. Every time I went into the fort it said I failed the quest.

Eventually I went into Markarth for another quest and I was attacked by the Jarl & crew. I beat them and it said I completed the liberation of reach quest. Then it told me to return to Ulfric to finish the quest, which never finished even after I talked to him. Weird...


I wish the bookshelves and mannequins would get fixed too...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 18:18:04


Post by: Corpsesarefun


For some reason health draining enchanted daggers start health draining a split second before I hit causing the mob to detect me and denying my delicious 30x sneak damage bonus :(

I made some named enchanted legendary glass daggers for my vampire thief to go with his vampire theme and now they are making me far less effective on combat :/


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 18:18:42


Post by: Melissia


Some bugs have been fixed.

For example, the unkillable dragon flying backwards bug which was caused by traveling around.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
corpsesarefun wrote:For some reason health draining enchanted daggers start health draining a split second before I hit causing the mob to detect me and denying my delicious 30x sneak damage bonus :(

I made some named enchanted legendary glass daggers for my vampire thief to go with his vampire theme and now they are making me far less effective on combat :/
Make your off hand dagger draining, and your main hand one damaging?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 18:30:40


Post by: Lord Scythican


Melissia wrote:Some bugs have been fixed.

For example, the unkillable dragon flying backwards bug which was caused by traveling around.



I noticed that I hadn't seen that one in a while.

I really want to display some armour in my house though...

Also does anyone know if there is a forge that comes with any of the houses? I bought the house in windhelm and it has everything but a forge. Also my option for cleaning up the murder's mess disappeared before I could purchase it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 18:36:55


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Melissia wrote:Some bugs have been fixed.

For example, the unkillable dragon flying backwards bug which was caused by traveling around.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
corpsesarefun wrote:For some reason health draining enchanted daggers start health draining a split second before I hit causing the mob to detect me and denying my delicious 30x sneak damage bonus :(

I made some named enchanted legendary glass daggers for my vampire thief to go with his vampire theme and now they are making me far less effective on combat :/
Make your off hand dagger draining, and your main hand one damaging?


The idea was both are draining and act as a proxy set of fangs for draining life in combat, I suppose I could make the mainhand soultrap.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 18:41:42


Post by: Melissia


Soultrap is pretty good if you want to raise your enchanting higher...

I admit, I've been going around with unenchanted dragonscale armor becauase I want to wait until enchantment is at max before enchanting it lol...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 18:45:39


Post by: Corpsesarefun


My armour is nightingale and daggers cost very little in resources so I don't need to worry about wasting enchantments really.

According to the wiki glass daggers are stronger than daedric, is this true?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 19:34:20


Post by: Grey Templar


Question: what are the componants of Dragon armor? How many scales/bones do I need? do I need other metals?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 19:43:29


Post by: Melissia


Grey Templar wrote:Question: what are the componants of Dragon armor? How many scales/bones do I need? do I need other metals?
Which kind?

Dragonbone (heavy) or dragonscale (light)?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 20:02:16


Post by: Grey Templar


Dragonbone for sure.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 20:20:46


Post by: Melissia


Name, Leather Strips, Dragon Scales, Dragon Bones:
Dragonplate Armor: 3, 3, 2
Dragonplate Boots: 2, 3, 1
Dragonplate Gauntlets: 2, 2, 1
Dragonplate Helmet: 2, 2, 1
Dragonplate Shield: 1, 3, 1

Total: 10 leather strips, 13 dragon scales, 6 dragon bones.

Daedric armor is better (by a few points) by the way, but dragonplate armor looks better.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 20:46:20


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


Can you re-enchant pieces out of interest. I foolishly enchanted my Dragonscale set, and its covered in +4% and that kind of horror level enchants.

Okay I can make the set again if not, but if I can just enchant over the top, I can raise up my stats a bit as I am mastering the skill.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 21:03:53


Post by: Grakmar


Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:Can you re-enchant pieces out of interest. I foolishly enchanted my Dragonscale set, and its covered in +4% and that kind of horror level enchants.

Okay I can make the set again if not, but if I can just enchant over the top, I can raise up my stats a bit as I am mastering the skill.

You cannot re-enchant. Once an item is enchanted, it's stuck.

If you want the optimal enchantments, make sure to get to 100 Enchanting and get the perk "Extra Effect" to put 2 enchantments on the same item. (And, each is as powerful as if it were the only one on it.)


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 21:05:56


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


Right, will make certain I take that into account, and keep leveling my enchanting.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 21:22:12


Post by: Necros


I leveled my enchanting while leveling smithing. Buy a bunch if iron and leather strips, make 27 iron daggers. Take the daggers to your nearest enchanter table and enchant as many as you can with cheapy petty souls, then sell the daggers for 70-100 gold each


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 22:03:26


Post by: vodo40k


Necros wrote:I leveled my enchanting while leveling smithing. Buy a bunch if iron and leather strips, make 27 iron daggers. Take the daggers to your nearest enchanter table and enchant as many as you can with cheapy petty souls, then sell the daggers for 70-100 gold each


Some enchantments are worth more gold than others, I used drain stamina when i did this.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 22:15:01


Post by: Melissia


If you do that ,be sure to either use the Lovers stone or switch between warrior for smithing and mage for enchanting (or sleep with your wife/husband, which grants a temporary bonus that's the same as the lover's stone bonus) before embarking on that, to maximize xp gain.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 22:57:13


Post by: Avatar 720


Does anyone have any advice for levelling Alchemy? Even with things with Fortify Alchemy, the Thief Stone and Lover's Comfort bonus, plus making the most expensive potion in the game (Wheat + Giant's Toe Fortify Health potion), only gives me about half a level at a time, and Toes are scarce.

What combinations of common ingredients typically produce the more valuable potions?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/04 23:43:53


Post by: Melissia


Hell if I know, I never touch alchemy...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 00:32:25


Post by: Lord Scythican


Avatar 720 wrote:Does anyone have any advice for levelling Alchemy? Even with things with Fortify Alchemy, the Thief Stone and Lover's Comfort bonus, plus making the most expensive potion in the game (Wheat + Giant's Toe Fortify Health potion), only gives me about half a level at a time, and Toes are scarce.

What combinations of common ingredients typically produce the more valuable potions?


Well the way I have been doing it is to gather any ingredients that I find in my travels. They don't weigh much so you can carry a lot. Periodically I drop all of them off at my house in one specific container. Once I get a lot of them I go to my alchemy table with all my ingredients and just make whatever potions I can. I then sell off the ones I don't want. I maxed out the skill doing this a long time ago.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 00:39:59


Post by: Avatar 720


That's the method i've been using throughout, but it hasn't done much.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 00:42:43


Post by: Lord Scythican


Avatar 720 wrote:That's the method i've been using throughout, but it hasn't done much.


Do you eat the ingredients too? That gives you a small boost to the skill and opens up options for more powerful potions.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 00:45:01


Post by: Avatar 720


Of course, I eat one of every ingredient I find so I can discover the first effect. Not got the perk that discovers the second yet, but i've made so many potions using so many ingredients that only a small handful haven't had the second effect revealed.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 02:16:55


Post by: Lord Scythican


Avatar 720 wrote:Of course, I eat one of every ingredient I find so I can discover the first effect. Not got the perk that discovers the second yet, but i've made so many potions using so many ingredients that only a small handful haven't had the second effect revealed.


It may be the types of potions you are creating. I usually make potions with three ingredients. However even with that I will select and reselect ingredients if they do not make an expensive potion. Sometimes choosing one ingredient over another will make a potion worth over 500 gold versus like 60.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 02:18:33


Post by: stompydakka


I am awful at Alchemy.

it's my worst skill that i have actually spent time on.
I just dont get it!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 02:59:57


Post by: Anvildude


Heh. You'z guys have it easy. Back in Morrowind, you had to select each ingredient seperately, and you couldn't see the effects of the ingredients you'd already selected!

If you made a potion with two items that both had the same 'unkown effect', you didn't learn the effect, you just got a potion with an unknown effect.

The list was alphabetical, and horizontal, and purely graphical, meaning you had to either mouse over each item to see its name, or learn to recognize them by their icon.

I don't know if this last one is correct, but from how it feels, there were about twice as many different ingredients than there are in either later game.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 11:43:26


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I find it much easier to recognise items by images, if there was a mod that changed the inventory interface to take up more room with tiled images instead of a list of text I would be a happy man.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 13:22:40


Post by: KingCracker


I just made the light dragonbone armor yesterday, and was let down. It doesnt look that good. Naturally as Im playing a stealthy assassin type. The heavy though, that looks bad ass, and cant wait to see it on my warrior.


Just joined the Brotherhood as well. Super excited, as I LOVE the DB


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 16:09:23


Post by: GangstaMuffin24


KingCracker wrote:I just made the light dragonbone armor yesterday, and was let down. It doesnt look that good. Naturally as Im playing a stealthy assassin type. The heavy though, that looks bad ass, and cant wait to see it on my warrior.


Just joined the Brotherhood as well. Super excited, as I LOVE the DB

I like Dragonscale except for the helmet, it kind of ruins the whole suit. I just replace it the Dragon Priest mask that gives a bonus to archery on my stealth character.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 16:26:35


Post by: Melissia


The dragonplate helmet is far worse, it doesn't even match the COLORs of the rest of the armor.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 16:29:08


Post by: Lint


Melissia wrote:
Daedric armor is better (by a few points) by the way, but dragonplate armor looks better.


Ugh, I have to disagree. I am not a fan of the dragonplate. Daedric feels much sexier. I wish they'd let you customize your armours appearance, that'd be sweet.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 16:31:57


Post by: Melissia


Lint wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Daedric armor is better (by a few points) by the way, but dragonplate armor looks better.


Ugh, I have to disagree. I am not a fan of the dragonplate. Daedric feels much sexier. I wish they'd let you customize your armours appearance, that'd be sweet.
I personally hate the new look of daedric armor...

And daedric weapons...

... and ebony weapons...

... and orc weapons...

I'm probably too big of a fan of symmetry.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 16:33:17


Post by: Lint


I haven't seen the glass armour yet, only a couple of axes.... How does the glass stuff stack up?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 16:37:54


Post by: Melissia


Glass armor is just below dragonscale armor in stats.

Doesn't look taht bad either.




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Glass weapons are also all fairly attractive.



For weapons, glass is surpassed by daedric and ebony.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 17:33:31


Post by: vodo40k


I like the look of daedric armour however you cant help but look extremely evil while you wear it. Dragon plate dosent look brilliant IMO but it deffinatly makes you look the part of "Dovahkiin". My favourite looking armour is steel plate (and imperial with the hoplite helmet), but i dont wear it cause its not the best.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 17:47:32


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


Actually, I really wish that Skyrim had built on the "factional" armor that the FO series has, especially in FO:NV... I mean, I would love to run into any town wearing my stormcloak armor, or imperial armor (especially if its held by the other group) and be straight up attacked like a common criminal, or at least get a guard stoppin me at the gate to warn me off.


It always bugged me in oblivion that once I got daedric armor, which looked EXACTLY the same as the dudes popping out of oblivion gates, all the 'civilians' and guards in the game couldn't care less.. they just all recognized me and didnt care


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 17:50:49


Post by: purplefood


Ensis Ferrae wrote:Actually, I really wish that Skyrim had built on the "factional" armor that the FO series has, especially in FO:NV... I mean, I would love to run into any town wearing my stormcloak armor, or imperial armor (especially if its held by the other group) and be straight up attacked like a common criminal, or at least get a guard stoppin me at the gate to warn me off.


It always bugged me in oblivion that once I got daedric armor, which looked EXACTLY the same as the dudes popping out of oblivion gates, all the 'civilians' and guards in the game couldn't care less.. they just all recognized me and didnt care

In Oblivion you were attacked if you cranked the difficulty up and wore necromancer robes or DB gear.
Try that...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 18:47:11


Post by: thenoobbomb


I now need to go in Blackreach but am evel 15.. Should I wait for that? I think Ill die immediately when a Centurion shows up..

Also, I made my own Dwarven armor and Im proud. Hah. (I know, I suck because of that)


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 18:51:23


Post by: Grey Templar


You run into like 1 Centurion when doing that quest. So unless you decide to go exploring every nook and cranny you should be fine if you are worried about them. Frankly, Falmer are more dangerous.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 19:06:58


Post by: thenoobbomb


Ive read that its around 3 Centurions and lots of Falmer...
Ill wait and level up some more.
Would the mace of Molog Bal help?
(when I find a wife I really need to equip forsworn armor on her... )


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 19:37:03


Post by: Akroma06


Then make sure it's someone who is already a follower if you want them to wear the Falmer. Someone like Lydia or Alea the Huntress. It has to be better than what they already have.

As far as the mace of Molag Bal goes, I have not been thrilled with any of the Daedric Artifacts short of Azura's Star. I miss Umbra.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 19:43:51


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I love daedric, ebony and orcish weapons but sadly I've specc'd into light armour and the light armour side of smithing

Was anyone able to clear up the issue I had with the wiki stating glass daggers had a base damage of 14 whereas daedric had a base damage of 12?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 19:54:21


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


I went up the heavy side myself, even though a light armour wearer, I could wait for the Dragonscale, and wanted access to ebony one handers.

Love the fact you can name your items when you enchant, I'm getting way too much fun out of such a simple option.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 20:11:01


Post by: Melissia


Did they fix naming enchanted items so they aren't always in all caps?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 20:23:08


Post by: Morathi's Darkest Sin


On the xbox thats not an issue, well not in my game anyways. Either I am lucky, or its only on PC format?

Hmm, noting the enchanting thing, I'll need to get some more ebony together for another sword once I max it.

It's a crazy difference though. Make a ebony sword, craft it up to epic, and enchant the danged thing. Damage difference between my old scimitar and 'Darklight' was insane.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 20:29:17


Post by: Melissia


They may have simplyalready patched it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 21:22:03


Post by: vodo40k


thenoobbomb wrote:I now need to go in Blackreach but am evel 15.. Should I wait for that? I think Ill die immediately when a Centurion shows up..

Also, I made my own Dwarven armor and Im proud. Hah. (I know, I suck because of that)


The way to deal with the centurions is to get in close, i mean hugging their legs close. That way they wont be able to use their extremely nasty steam attack. You either have to be pretty proficient at blocking or dodging to do this well.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 21:26:34


Post by: Grey Templar


Or you can keep it stunned with Power Attacks and Unrelenting Force.

First Centurion I faced, I spent a good 10 minutes playing tag with Fire breath and avoiding its steam attack.

Second Centurion I faced I got up in its grill and it died pretty quickly with only minor damage to myself. You probably don't want to do that if you are specilizing in light armor or are a mage, that would end badly.


I find it odd that the Dwarven machines are resistant to Ice but not Fire. You think Ice would be good because it could shut down the boilers, but instead Ice just tickles them while fire does decent damage.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 21:28:58


Post by: Avatar 720


All dwarven constructs are actually immune to frost and poision, and come with a 25% magic resist IIRC.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 21:35:23


Post by: Grey Templar


Poison and Magic make sense, Frost doesn't. Freeze up the mechanisims and the whole thing becomes useless.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 21:39:19


Post by: Avatar 720


It goes against one of the books found in the game too, the "Ruins of Something'Something" and I know it had a 'z' in it...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 22:48:11


Post by: Goliath


Avatar 720 wrote:It goes against one of the books found in the game too, the "Ruins of Something'Something" and I know it had a 'z' in it...


I think you're thinking of "The Ruins of Kemel-Ze" and another thing that's quite good for centurions is ranged sneak attacks, because if they haven't activated yet, they can still take damage.

Which brings me onto one thing I miss from Oblivion, the ability to place enchantments onto individual arrows. That was fun. "Oh, there are five dremora that can't see me, guess I'll just use my arrows that do 30 lightning damage in a 15 foot radius then"


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 22:51:39


Post by: Grey Templar


Well, you can enchant your Bows so you can kinda still do the magical group assassination thingy.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 23:03:50


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Can you enchant things to do AoE damage?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/05 23:51:39


Post by: Grey Templar


I don't know, I havn't done much enchanting in Skyrim.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 00:02:53


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I've not seen any AoE enchantments and very few AoE spells.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 00:10:36


Post by: Melissia


There are no AoE enchantments I think.

As for AoE spells, there's the tier three and four spells. Fireball is an AoE, the ice one hits everything in a fairly wide line, and the chain lightning of course jumps from enemy to enemy, whiel the three tier four ones... I haven't really used much, they kinda suck IIRC.

The runes are also AoE and quite a bit more powerful than the second tier spells.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 00:20:21


Post by: Avatar 720


The ice one is perhaps the strongest. Fireball and Chain Lightning are one-time damages, with fireball having a small burn time. Ice Storm ticks every second, allowing you to build up damage if the enemy is moving with it, or stays in it for 2 or so seconds.

It makes it decent against things with large footprints as well, like landed Dragons. Even staying still it'll take 2-3 seconds for the storm to pass completely through it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 00:37:29


Post by: Grey Templar


Tell me about it, Ice Storm is insanely overpowered and being a Nord is no protection.



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 01:23:17


Post by: GalacticDefender


Can't frikkin wait for the first DLC to come out. I wonder what it will be about?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 01:24:51


Post by: purplefood


Dragons...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 01:30:01


Post by: GalacticDefender


I'm hoping there is a DLC where we get to go back to the imperial city. That would be AWESOME.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 01:30:44


Post by: Grey Templar


Yeah, all the Dragons will be replaced with a flying Octopus creature called a Skingvang, Hydras will be a new monster that will randomly appear in the wilds, and a new awsome main quest will show up that will culminate with an epic battle that throws Solitude into the sea.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 02:10:55


Post by: JohnnoM


I want to be able to visit Akavir!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 02:15:25


Post by: Grey Templar


now that would be a great expansion.

heck with it, TES7 shall hearby be set in Akavir!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 02:28:51


Post by: Jollydevil


To be honest i was a much bigger fan of the alechemy in Oblivion. So much simpler, faster, and more fun. I live for the sound of that "Cha-tunk" when you you make a potion.
That, and maybe the old lockpicking. Im not sure which i like better, the new or old.


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And itd be nice to head somewhere... Warm... In skyrim XD. I need to turn up the heat every time i play XD


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 02:33:02


Post by: Grey Templar


The new lock picking is certaintly more realistic but I do miss the auto complete option of Oblivion. Especially if I don't feel like wasting time with a chest.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 02:35:07


Post by: Jollydevil


Grey Templar wrote:The new lock picking is certaintly more realistic but I do miss the auto complete option of Oblivion. Especially if I don't feel like wasting time with a chest.
The old was much more Unique. Actually found it fun to pick locks. Now its just sort of a pain in the ass.
Thats really my only complaint thought, almost everything else is skyrim is amazing.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 05:40:04


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


I like the new lockpicking (which is just the lockpicking from fallout) and the new alchemy better.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 06:43:36


Post by: Ensis Ferrae


corpsesarefun wrote:I've not seen any AoE enchantments and very few AoE spells.


most of them are on staffs, which thus far in my playing, are not breakable.. so therefore we cant learn too many real AoE spells.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 12:37:45


Post by: Joey


I don't seem capable of mapping a spell to left mouse button, anyone else getting this?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 14:13:39


Post by: MrMerlin


Have just played Skyrim for a few hours at a friends place, and found it awsome. So awsome that i had to make a 40k model about it.
"I uzd ta be in da WAAAAGH like you, tilz I got an arrow in da knee"







The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 15:14:57


Post by: Coolyo294


GalacticDefender wrote:Can't frikkin wait for the first DLC to come out. I wonder what it will be about?
Methinks there will be a floating city in it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 16:35:47


Post by: Anvildude


Nah, I'm thinking that'll be taken care of in the next novel.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 16:53:26


Post by: Avatar 720


Grey Templar wrote:now that would be a great expansion.

heck with it, TES7 shall hearby be set in Akavir!


You missed out TESVI

On the new lockpicking, I probably mentioned it before but I find it pretty damn easy. I've never once run out of lockpicks, and the only time i've ever used more than about 6 is on particularly annoying Master locks. Once you manage to find the general area of the sweet spot using light probing picks, you've more or less cracked it.

I detested the Oblivion lockpicking system, only when I got the Skeleton Key was it remotely tolerable (see: "Hmmm, a lock..." *auto-complete* x[insert number here] .


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 17:28:09


Post by: Lint


I must agree, the Oblivion lockpicking system was horribly annoying. Many times there were when I felt like smashing my controller into pieces.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 17:51:54


Post by: brotherskeeper74


Saw this and had to share. Problem is, the dragon needed to be purple.



Fixed it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 18:09:29


Post by: Anvildude


The funny thing is, once you figure out the trick to the Oblivion system, it's incredibly easy.

All you have to do is
Spoiler:
tap them up until you get one that's incredibly fast coming down. The next 'tap' can be locked into place, without fail. You just need to recognize the speeds the tumblers fall.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 18:16:43


Post by: KingCracker


I personally found the lock picking in Oblivion to be WAY to easy. Id never take it as a skill, and could pick the hardest of locks with very little effort. They all literally went with a little music number in my head.

Oh its a medium, so its la la PICK la la PICK
or Hard was say, la la laaaaa PICK la la PICK!!


I rather like Skyrims lock set up, it ranges from damn simple to rather tough. But I too never run out of picks, and normally only waste around 5 on a master or occasionally an expert, again its a groove thing. And if your the observant type, youll notice that each skill type is more or less always in the same area, but on either side of the lock. Like Masters IIRC are either just below the left top bolt or the right top bolt. And if its not, there was one other spot that it was ALWAYS at.

I cant rememebr that one, as I started a berserker type Orc, wearing the Fur armor that exposes his chest, and the rest will be the best heavy armor I can make, with Dual wielding of course, bright red war paint on his face. So far its been pretty damn fun, and keeping in character is making him to be rather interesting to play


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Anvildude wrote:The funny thing is, once you figure out the trick to the Oblivion system, it's incredibly easy.

All you have to do is
Spoiler:
tap them up until you get one that's incredibly fast coming down. The next 'tap' can be locked into place, without fail. You just need to recognize the speeds the tumblers fall.



Yup, that one works rather well too


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 18:17:47


Post by: Melissia


KingCracker wrote:I personally found the lock picking in Oblivion to be WAY to easy. Id never take it as a skill, and could pick the hardest of locks with very little effort. They all literally went with a little music number in my head.

Oh its a medium, so its la la PICK la la PICK
or Hard was say, la la laaaaa PICK la la PICK!!
So basically just like Skyrim's?

Skyrim's lockpicking as arguably easier.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 18:19:20


Post by: KingCracker


No way, Skyrims is easily harder then Oblivions. Oblivions was incredibly easy, I taught my son (whos 6 currently) the trick and he would blow through locks. Im not saying Skyrims is hair pulling hard, but its definitely harder then Oblivions


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 18:25:07


Post by: Melissia


KingCracker wrote:Oblivions was incredibly easy
So is Skyrim's.

With a lockpicking skill of sixteen I was able to pick a master lock quite easily.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 18:37:59


Post by: Grey Templar


Player skill comes into the equation here.

If I have played skyrim for a very long time, or just have natural talent, and start a new character I will find the lockpicking to be really easy and can probably get by with only a few picks.

That said, I think the Skyrim system is more difficult as a baseline.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 18:41:54


Post by: Melissia


Grey Templar wrote:Player skill comes into the equation here.

If I have played skyrim for a very long time, or just have natural talent, and start a new character I will find the lockpicking to be really easy and can probably get by with only a few picks.

That said, I think the Skyrim system is more difficult as a baseline.
I had played it for a total of three hours at the time and was playing as a mage, with as I said a skill of 16. And I started at 15-- hadn't exactly had much experience doing it.

I still find that Oblivion's lockpicking is harder than Skyrim, but I don't use cheap tricks...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 18:51:03


Post by: KingCracker


Cheap tricks? Theres nothing cheap about the tricks in Oblivions locks, its just simple fact. Oh theres the fast dropping tumbler *click*

I dont really see the need to argue on this subject though, some will think one set is harder, while others will think that same set is the easiest. Im looking at it as a fact, that on average, 10 of the hardest level locks in Oblvion, I can pick with probably 3 picks. While 10 of the master level locks in Skyrim, while still easy to do, would take me probably 20-40 picks to pull off. And really only that much, because the "hard part" is finding where the sweet spot is. (that and my controller is REALLY loose and needs to be replaced )


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 18:54:12


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I find neither system particularly hard but I found oblivions more annoying due to it having multiple stages, in skyrim once you've done it once you've done it for good.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 19:01:53


Post by: KingCracker


I look at it more like this. Oblivions system, may have taken more time to do properly, because you were waiting for the fast tumbler. Once it popped up, your set. Where as skyrim can possibly go in one shot (if your lucky) up to taking some time trying to find the right spot. But again, once you found it your golden. So one takes longer but with less picks, and the other can go faster but can take ALOT more picks to get there.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 19:06:19


Post by: thenoobbomb


I hope for DLC that gives me a book called 'the lusty greybeards.'
Think 'the lusty argonian maid', but then about master Bori ghetting teached master Arngeir about the dragobtongue..

I think DLC will be Morrowind to go in, or High Rock.
And I hope TES6 will be in Summerset Isle and the reuturn of the Dwemer.. Hell yeah!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 20:36:50


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Skyrim is way easier lockpicking. Maybe because I've got experience from fallout but it is easier anyway. There's no catastrophic reset of the lock for a screw up.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 20:37:45


Post by: KingCracker


Something with the Dwemer would be pretty cool. The closest we ever got was that one expansion (Mournhold?) and even then it was just ghosts. I dont count the Dwarf that was at the Corprusarium, as he was.....well you all know. He looked like Chum-lee with spider legs


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 21:20:01


Post by: Avatar 720


The Dwemer i'm not sure about, but I would like to see Snow Elves.

There's a statue of one (the only known representation of a Snow Elf pre-blindness etc.) but I think it could be a really good questline to discover their origins and track them, before discovering a small community hidden somewhere.

We know they were driven mostly underground by Ysgramor and eventually became the version of Falmer we all know and love, but we don't know if any migrated to previously unknown locations using natural tunnels and coming out in some area of extreme natural beauty.

They could have been trapped by cave ins or even by their mutated brethren, or not desired to leave, and those who did got lost and twisted into Falmer.

The Dovahkiin discovers clues about their heritage (starting with the Eyes of the Falmer you recovered in the Thieves Guild questline, who recognise who and what you are and grant you some sort of vision), and tracks the movements of one colony in particular, following them as their civilisation was put to the torch by Ysgramor (perhaps a tie-in to the current companions here?) and how they begged with the Dwemer to protect them (let's visit a Dwemer ruin!) but when they saw what the Dwemer did to their brethren, the fled further underground.

Over the years they lost more and more to attacks by their twisted brethren and Dwemer pursuers, until they finally stumbled upon an area untouched by mortal hands, and saw it as a place where they could restart their civilisation without fear of the Nords.

They blocked the entrances and laid enchantments upon them and went about their business.

When Alduin returned, they used some special connection with the statue that holds the Eyes of the Falmer to grant the Dragonborn the knowledge to find their new civilisation, so that they can be saved from the atrocity that Alduin wrought and that his dragons bring upon their new civillisation.

You journey through Skyrim, finding clues in scriptures that talk of Ysgramor and the 500 companions, and in the city of Saarthal. You seek out Tilma the Haggard, the caretaker of the current Companions, and learn that there is more to her than first meets the eye.

With the companions now less prejudiced, the agrees to join you in your search for the survivors of the original Falmer, noting that her presence could extend a hand of friendship that could cement a more permanent presence in Skyrim, now the prejudices of the old companions are gone.

More journeying into a Dwemer ruin reveals that the Dwemer ran into the colony and originally accepted them, but they refused their hospitality and turned on them, fleeing further into the earth. The Dwemer and their slave Falmer gave chase, but were ultimately locked out by the Snow Elves when they reached their new place. The Dwemer then set about fortifying the entrance, so should the Snow Elves attempt to return, they would be annihilated.

Once you de-fortify it, the ghost of a Snow Elf, the leader of the colony who fled, comes through the entrance to speak with you. (S)He is nervous about the presence of "such a powerful and ancient enemy" in Tilma, but becomes more relaxed when you explain. (S)He accepts you into their new realm by stepping back through the entrance with the eyes of the falmer, and a few moments later, a glowing blue door appears in the stone.

You step through into the new land, talk a bit, their current situation is explained and you must slay a powerful agent of Alduin who has taken roost near their city. Tilma excuses herself to allow you to do what you do best.

Once complete, Tilma returns with the a unit of Stormcloaks in tow and issues an ultimatum to the Snow Elves, demanding their surrender. She explains that the current companions had become lazy in their quest to rid Skyrim of the Elves and she had been searching for years about lost colonies until you came along, and forces you to make a choice: kill off the Snow Elves once and for all, or choose to die with them.

If you choose to slaughter them, you receive some stuff; gold and all that jazz, if you choose to help them, then you aid them in fighting off Tilma and the Stormcloaks, giving you access to the Snow Elves, who decide that Skyrim is not ready for them yet, and choose to stay.

To re-enter, use any shout on the entrance and the door will appear until you shout at it again (useless, but nice for lore purposes).

That's my convoluted, very compressed idea for reintroducing original Snow Elves.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 22:13:35


Post by: Necros


When I think of snow elves, I think of the kind that were born into an life of eternal servitude by a bulbous greater daemon of Nurgle, forced to make toys out of wood for ungrateful children that would rather play video games.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/06 23:38:38


Post by: Joey


No other PC players getting the left/right click issue with dual casting spells?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 00:49:56


Post by: KingCracker


I want to throw this out there, I personally, am not a fan of the dual weapons. It feels a bit awkward to use, I get annoyed that when I hold BOTH buttons down for the power attack, your character just stands there swinging. So many times, has an enemy just took a step or two back, and Im swinging at the air. I also dont like how cluttered up the screen looks with both weapons sticking out the front, yet in 3rd person mode, your character holds one back over head, and only 1! is out front. Bit annoying.

I redid my Berserker Orc to use 2 handed swords instead. Just couldnt get over the dual wielding oddities


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 03:12:24


Post by: Bleak_Fantasy


Wasn't there a news storyv about morrowind being on the disk? I think DLC will take us back there. One of the companions did mention going to morrowind since he had already killed one of everything in skyrim.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 04:09:50


Post by: Joey


I'm getting my arse handed to me by the mages in that place where you go to find the books.
I finally figured out how to duel-cast so I can do damage, but there's this one place where there's a frost mage and two fire mages, I can take out one quick time but then the others are too good at blocking, when my own ward thing seems to suck.
They basically bash me to death with magic, it sucks.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 04:48:20


Post by: Coolyo294





The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 05:03:19


Post by: Grey Templar


Coolyo294 wrote:


That's funny and horrible at the same time. School Busses arn't safe, especially with the Dovakin around.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 07:28:31


Post by: Nightfall


KamikazeCanuck wrote:Skyrim is way easier lockpicking. Maybe because I've got experience from fallout but it is easier anyway. There's no catastrophic reset of the lock for a screw up.


Fallout helped me alot when it came down to lockpicking too

Loving Skyrim so far one the best RPG if have play in such a long time, thou Titan Quest still has a place in my heart


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 08:40:20


Post by: Daba


I think I've concluded my character looks best in Orcish.

I made a set in Ancient Nord but I would like it more if that set looked heavier as a heavy armour set. It looks too light.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 11:24:59


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Joey wrote:I'm getting my arse handed to me by the mages in that place where you go to find the books.
I finally figured out how to duel-cast so I can do damage, but there's this one place where there's a frost mage and two fire mages, I can take out one quick time but then the others are too good at blocking, when my own ward thing seems to suck.
They basically bash me to death with magic, it sucks.


Try sneaking up on them/using illusion spells/conjuring some allies/getting heavy armour/retreating and healing up/enchanting better gear/making potions to buff you. If you try to use NOTHING but destruction magic (or nothing but any other skill) you are unlikely to get very far in this game.

KingCracker wrote:I want to throw this out there, I personally, am not a fan of the dual weapons. It feels a bit awkward to use, I get annoyed that when I hold BOTH buttons down for the power attack, your character just stands there swinging. So many times, has an enemy just took a step or two back, and Im swinging at the air. I also dont like how cluttered up the screen looks with both weapons sticking out the front, yet in 3rd person mode, your character holds one back over head, and only 1! is out front. Bit annoying.

I redid my Berserker Orc to use 2 handed swords instead. Just couldnt get over the dual wielding oddities


Sadly I've found the same thing, other than dual sneak attacks dual wielding sucks


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 18:05:57


Post by: TheWildHost


XD
I just watched the machoman randy savage mod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bifmj1O3D24&feature=player_embedded#!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 18:12:14


Post by: Grey Templar


TheWildHost wrote:XD
I just watched the machoman randy savage mod
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bifmj1O3D24&feature=player_embedded#!




The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 19:33:00


Post by: Dark Apostle 666


Just wanted to get some info on the Falmer - I picked up a quest to go kill the leader of the "shimmerlight cave" (or somesuch) from the companions, and I'd like to know a bit more about my enemy before I go charging in (or sneaking in, for that matter)


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 20:17:30


Post by: KingCracker


If your a sneaky type, the Flamer are easy to kill off. Just sneaking and picking them off with a bow is really all you need. Couldnt tell you about them in a face to face though, as I only dealt with them with my assassin type


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 20:24:10


Post by: Dark Apostle 666


Cheers, I'd heard a rumour that they were really hard to sneak up on, so I'll stick with sneaky ranging.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 20:36:44


Post by: KingCracker


They were REALLY easy to sneak up on for me. But my sneak was maxed and I maxed out that XX% harder to detect perk. So that might have been why, I just back stabbed every damn one of them. But yea, distance + Bow and you should be fine


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 20:37:52


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


KingCracker wrote:If your a sneaky type, the Flamer are easy to kill off. Just sneaking and picking them off with a bow is really all you need. Couldnt tell you about them in a face to face though, as I only dealt with them with my assassin type


Face to Face, they are a bunch of mother bastards. They have tons of health and deal a ridiculous amount of damage, and they poison their weapons.
Fighting 5 of them at once at a low level (-15) is a death sentence.

Hell, I was like lvl10 or so, clad in full friggen dwarven armor with a great sword, and I died like 10 times fighting the s.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 20:49:52


Post by: Grey Templar


And if they do detect you they are frakking accurate with their poisoned bows.

In Blackreach I am getting sniped by a Falmer 1/2 way accross the map, while fighting some sword and board Falmer and a Charus. Not fun when NPCs enjoy 60% accuracy at any distance.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 21:24:14


Post by: TheWildHost


Yeah, they can be annoying, but with a good companion, a shout( I use air elemental fury) and the right gear (Full daedric anyone?) they are just an annoyance. btw I normally play expert or master.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 21:27:12


Post by: vodo40k


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPHtAHxB3iI

I think the best one so far....


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 21:32:59


Post by: TheWildHost


At first I was like -_- then I was like then I was like XD then I looked at the comments.



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 22:13:53


Post by: Corpsesarefun


vodo40k wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPHtAHxB3iI

I think the best one so far....


My favourite by far, the way his face drops at the end is hilarious

Dark Apostle 666 wrote:Just wanted to get some info on the Falmer - I picked up a quest to go kill the leader of the "shimmerlight cave" (or somesuch) from the companions, and I'd like to know a bit more about my enemy before I go charging in (or sneaking in, for that matter)


Get the DB or thieves guild boots that muffle you or get the illusion spell muffle, falmer use nothing but sound to detect you so if you move silently you are practically invisible to them.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 22:21:18


Post by: purplefood


vodo40k wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPHtAHxB3iI

I think the best one so far....

I did guess what would happen but it was still hilarious...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 22:27:22


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


thenoobbomb wrote:I hope for DLC that gives me a book called 'the lusty greybeards.'
Think 'the lusty argonian maid', but then about master Bori ghetting teached master Arngeir about the dragobtongue..


GAAAH NO! The last thing we need is a rule 34 greybeard slashfic.

Now if it were with Lydia and Mjolll...



Edit : In my infinite capacity for incompetence, I wrote slashflick instead of slashfic...



The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 22:36:56


Post by: Avatar 720


CthuluIsSpy wrote:
thenoobbomb wrote:I hope for DLC that gives me a book called 'the lusty greybeards.'
Think 'the lusty argonian maid', but then about master Bori ghetting teached master Arngeir about the dragobtongue..


GAAAH NO! The last thing we need is a rule 34 greybeard slashflick.

Now if it were with Lydia and Mjolll...



I could have a crack at both if you want; BorrixArngier (or however it's spelled, i'll look it up) for thenoobbomb, and LydiaxMjoll for you.

Of course, in perfect bad slashfic fashion, it'd have to be hilariously out of line with the plot and background and one of the duo has to be innocent and shy with the other one being as horny as feth, even if it's hugely out of character. They also have to discover that they're secretly gay, despite having no thoughts about it previously whatsoever.

It also has to be badly spelled with little or no grammar.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 22:37:45


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Make it so.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 22:39:17


Post by: Grey Templar


Avatar 720 wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
thenoobbomb wrote:I hope for DLC that gives me a book called 'the lusty greybeards.'
Think 'the lusty argonian maid', but then about master Bori ghetting teached master Arngeir about the dragobtongue..


GAAAH NO! The last thing we need is a rule 34 greybeard slashflick.

Now if it were with Lydia and Mjolll...



I could have a crack at both if you want; BorrixArngier (or however it's spelled, i'll look it up) for thenoobbomb, and LydiaxMjoll for you.

Of course, in perfect bad slashfic fashion, it'd have to be hilariously out of line with the plot and background and one of the duo has to be innocent and shy with the other one being as horny as feth, even if it's hugely out of character. They also have to discover that they're secretly gay, despite having no thoughts about it previously whatsoever.

It also has to be badly spelled with little or no grammar.


as long as the Dovakin comes in at the very end and Fus-ro-Dah's them off the side of the Throat of the World(dang, that mountain sounds dirtier and dirtier every time I read it )


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 22:43:40


Post by: Avatar 720


Oh there'll be lots of interesting shouting done in the throat of the world


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 22:50:08


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I feel paarthurnax should join in...

What?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 23:26:59


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


If you are throwing in a dragon, you might as well add a couple of trolls and a hagraven.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/07 23:37:44


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Is it bad that trolls, hagravens, dwemer constructs and bears go down with ease yet forsworn and falmer decimate my level 40 thief?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 00:02:06


Post by: Avatar 720


Forsworn obliterate my level 42 Rogue/Thief/Assassin if they see me, apart from that they fall like wheat to a scythe.

Falmer i'm not sure of, since they've only ever detected my Rogue once in her lifetime, and that went tits up because Brynjolf decided he could tank everything and Karliah decided to bugger off, leaving me against several Falmer and a Chaurus Reaper.

Dwemer Constructs still give me hassle though, the Spheres moreso than anything else since they seem to be continuously on the move and have greater detection than most mobs, and my daggers don't seem to do much.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 00:29:49


Post by: Grey Templar


the Forsworn and Falmer power level is a tad too high. Forsworn at least have very little protection so they can't take much damage, but their output is tremendous. Falmer are more durable and just as damaging.

I do appreciate that bows are more powerful, but they need to tone down the accuracy. Maybe competely remove them from Falmer too. I don't care how advanced their vibration and hearing senses are, you can't hit a human sized object 9 times out of ten at 100 yards without eyes


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 01:02:20


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I've put no perks into bows and next to no points into health (all on stamina, stupid but what the hell ) so perhaps that's my issue.

The other problem I suppose I'm having is forsworn and falmer come in large numbers, strong foes on their own can be sneak attacked to death with ease but groups tend to be harder.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 01:14:29


Post by: Avatar 720


It's easier if you can use bows to draw them away from the packs. If you fire an arrow at a wall, they'll go off and investigate, and then mill around for while, and you can pick one off with a dagger strike as they're walking back, since dagger attacks are silent, or one of the NPCs will stay there and walk around that area for a while instead.

You can also stand in a door (a little further back, but make sure there's a shadowy corner or place you can hide right next to it), loose off an arrow and hit one, then shift off the side into your shadowed hiding place (try and make sure the middle of the door is within reasonable dagger reach, so you don't have to spend ages trapsing over there).

He'll come running up there (with friends, usually, but they'll be behind him) and should be standing just in front of where you stood when you fired the arrow. If you placed yourself right, you can catch him from the side as he's standing there. The ones behind him should follow and you just repeat the process.

If there isn't any way you can do that, then just firing arrows at them, running off (crouched, of course) to a secluded corner until they leave, and rinse repeating works just as well, but it's far more tedious.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 01:15:17


Post by: Grey Templar


That would explain it somewhat. You really should be putting most of your upgrades into health and then a split between Magica and Stamina.

I suddenly have a vision of some skinny little frail dude carrying massive amounts of super heavy stuff and then he gets torn apart by a rabid skeever.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 01:19:06


Post by: Avatar 720


Unless you're a non-magic user like my Rogue is, who still only has 100 magicka at level 42

She's kept a fairly good balance between health and stamina, 300 in the former and 310 in the latter, since I find that I become overencumbered a hell of a lot, and I like to roll everywhere; I don't take much damage anyway, and I like having to play hide-and-seek sometimes; it adds to the gameplay more than standing there and taking it whilst you try and poke their eyes out with glass.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 01:26:50


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I have 110 magicka (so I could cast fear once to get into the mages college), 140 health and around 400 stamina IIRC. I'm also a very skinny dark elf that rarely leaves sneak mode when in a dungeon as I roll everywhere with my ridiculous stamina.

I don't use magic at all and I only use bows to pick off distant weak enemies as the silent attacks with 30* damage multipliers on my legendary glass daggers (base damage 34) of absorb health (extra 8 points damage) are too tempting to ignore.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 02:02:29


Post by: Anvildude


Got my wizard with nothing but Magicka- he can fire off Lightning like a boss, but is a little wary of taking damage himself.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 02:17:06


Post by: Corpsesarefun


When Skyrim first came out everyone was shouting about how overpowered magic was, now we have insane armour rating and damage on warriors and 30* sneak attacks on thieves


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 02:21:02


Post by: purplefood


I did say Sneak was OP...
I can do 1500 damage in a single sneak attack...
That just seems wrong... though considering i did just slit their throat they should be dead... so it seems right...
Dilema solved .


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 02:27:43


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Really endgame characters are just OP rather than anything in particular.

And regarding your sig, many men have hairy nipples!


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 02:30:03


Post by: Jollydevil


Anvildude wrote:The funny thing is, once you figure out the trick to the Oblivion system, it's incredibly easy.

All you have to do is
Spoiler:
tap them up until you get one that's incredibly fast coming down. The next 'tap' can be locked into place, without fail. You just need to recognize the speeds the tumblers fall.
Exactly. Its so much more fun then the stick it in and wait for your pick to break method. It also means you can actually pick mastar locks without breaking a thousand picks. Imho the Oblivion system was just much better thought out, and fun.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 02:37:36


Post by: purplefood


corpsesarefun wrote:Really endgame characters are just OP rather than anything in particular.

And regarding your sig, many men have hairy nipples!

You didn't see this picture... It was like he had shifted all chest hair solely onto his nipples...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 02:47:00


Post by: Swordwind


I really hate doing quests with the Companions on my rogue/assassin. They like to charge in like mad. My answer to that is:

run awayyyyyy


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 02:49:29


Post by: purplefood


Swordwind wrote:I really hate doing quests with the Companions on my rogue/assassin. They like to charge in like mad. My answer to that is:

run awayyyyyy

Just leave them to die/fall over and then kite the enemies with either a decent dagger or a decent bow...
If worst comes to worst whack out a magic sword and have at them...
Make sure you have a fairly powerful enchantment and make good use of poison and potions to cheat during combat...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 03:16:11


Post by: KingCracker


I just finished the Companions quest line, I think
Spoiler:
Im not a wolf anymore if thats where it ends?



And I personally think it was pretty lack luster. Specially compared to the others Ive done with other characters. Pretty big let down


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 04:28:55


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Paralyze and banish enchantments cause weapons to sell for stupidly high quantities of gold.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 04:37:22


Post by: Alexzandvar


I'm an Mage-Archer! I love this game, although I fell of a cliff and killed my poor Horse, I had named him Boreale and everything.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 04:49:02


Post by: Dunwich


^edit: Also just killed my horse by galloping off a cliff.


corpsesarefun wrote:Paralyze and banish enchantments cause weapons to sell for stupidly high quantities of gold.


Any tips on where to find one of these weapons or should I just check out the wiki?
I don't have many good enchantments so far.

I just got to level 100 Smithing yesterday, next it's Alchemy and Enchantment.



edit2: I never could work out lock picking in Oblivion. I just auto-picked every lock I came across. The lock picking in Fallout 3 I absolutely love. Now Skyrim seems to have copied it and while I like it much more than Oblivion, I still don't think it's as good as FO3's lockpicking. It seems slower, picks break too easily and it takes too long to get out a new pick. I don't mind it now, but the almost guarantee that you will break a pick and the slowness that comes with that really puts me off.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 05:05:08


Post by: halonachos


KingCracker wrote:I just finished the Companions quest line, I think
Spoiler:
Im not a wolf anymore if thats where it ends?



And I personally think it was pretty lack luster. Specially compared to the others Ive done with other characters. Pretty big let down


That's the official end of the main quest because other than that you just get radiant quests from Vilkas, Farkas, or Aella. Also I don't know if you knew this or not, but you didn't have to do that to yourself, just Kodlak.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 05:59:01


Post by: Alfndrate


Just beat the main quest on my Rogue/Assassin... Alduin went down like a cheap date on Prom night... lackluster ending is lackluster, but I don't really care... I managed to find two daedric swords in chests


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 06:24:15


Post by: Grey Templar


Alright, in the name of Talos, how the frak did a Giant get into Blackreach? I found him wandering around by the far wall.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 10:01:45


Post by: thenoobbomb


Avatar 720 wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
thenoobbomb wrote:I hope for DLC that gives me a book called 'the lusty greybeards.'
Think 'the lusty argonian maid', but then about master Bori ghetting teached master Arngeir about the dragobtongue..


GAAAH NO! The last thing we need is a rule 34 greybeard slashflick.

Now if it were with Lydia and Mjolll...



I could have a crack at both if you want; BorrixArngier (or however it's spelled, i'll look it up) for thenoobbomb, and LydiaxMjoll for you.

Of course, in perfect bad slashfic fashion, it'd have to be hilariously out of line with the plot and background and one of the duo has to be innocent and shy with the other one being as horny as feth, even if it's hugely out of character. They also have to discover that they're secretly gay, despite having no thoughts about it previously whatsoever.

It also has to be badly spelled with little or no grammar.

Borri and Arngeir would just be funny


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 12:10:42


Post by: The Epic Chaosdude!!!


Grey Templar wrote:Alright, in the name of Talos, how the frak did a Giant get into Blackreach? I found him wandering around by the far wall.

I've had the same thing. But it was a mammoth in Whiterun.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 12:15:58


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Dunwich wrote:^edit: Also just killed my horse by galloping off a cliff.


corpsesarefun wrote:Paralyze and banish enchantments cause weapons to sell for stupidly high quantities of gold.


Any tips on where to find one of these weapons or should I just check out the wiki?
I don't have many good enchantments so far.


Sadly the only way I know to get them is by random loot in chests and occasionally from traders at higher levels, keep your eye out and raid dungeons!

As for getting enchanting up, visit every court wizard and buy all of the filled soul gems you can afford (if your average gold is under 10k don't but greater or grand) then make a load of iron daggers and enchant them.

Alchemy is a different story, even if you regularly buy/steal everything from all alchemy shops you come across and use it all to make potions it tends to be pretty hard to raise.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 17:38:31


Post by: KingCracker


halonachos wrote:
KingCracker wrote:I just finished the Companions quest line, I think
Spoiler:
Im not a wolf anymore if thats where it ends?



And I personally think it was pretty lack luster. Specially compared to the others Ive done with other characters. Pretty big let down


That's the official end of the main quest because other than that you just get radiant quests from Vilkas, Farkas, or Aella. Also I don't know if you knew this or not, but you didn't have to do that to yourself, just Kodlak.



Yea I knew that, I did it, and afterwards wished I hadnt Oh well, maybe when I give the mage a retry Ill make him a Wolf and then just leave him like that. You know, for when the going gets tough, the tough turn into a fething werewolf and starts eating your mates


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corpsesarefun wrote:
Dunwich wrote:^edit: Also just killed my horse by galloping off a cliff.


corpsesarefun wrote:Paralyze and banish enchantments cause weapons to sell for stupidly high quantities of gold.


Any tips on where to find one of these weapons or should I just check out the wiki?
I don't have many good enchantments so far.


Sadly the only way I know to get them is by random loot in chests and occasionally from traders at higher levels, keep your eye out and raid dungeons!

As for getting enchanting up, visit every court wizard and buy all of the filled soul gems you can afford (if your average gold is under 10k don't but greater or grand) then make a load of iron daggers and enchant them.

Alchemy is a different story, even if you regularly buy/steal everything from all alchemy shops you come across and use it all to make potions it tends to be pretty hard to raise.




Id agree with that assumption. My assassin I would gather every friggin ingredient I could find, and had a chest FULL of ingredients, and still barely would raise my alchemy.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 18:07:31


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Alchemy is the one skill I actually needed to use trainers to get to a decent level.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 20:22:57


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Well the "waking nightmare" quest is broken for me.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 20:27:47


Post by: Avatar 720


Care to elaborate? I don't want to mess it up too if I can avoid it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 20:28:03


Post by: Alexzandvar


I still can't believe falling 10 feet killed my Horse, when it had stood up to Frost-Fire-Blood dragons...


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 20:31:53


Post by: Avatar 720


I have only used a horse for about 5 mins in the whole game, I just hate them. I just roll everywhere now; I find it's quicker, easier, cooler, and I don't have to keep dismounting from my roll to kill an enemy, then having to look around for my roll due to it wandering off during the combat.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 20:39:19


Post by: Alexzandvar


Avatar 720 wrote:I have only used a horse for about 5 mins in the whole game, I just hate them. I just roll everywhere now; I find it's quicker, easier, cooler, and I don't have to keep dismounting from my roll to kill an enemy, then having to look around for my roll due to it wandering off during the combat.


I like the look of riding in on a horse into an epic battle, I just wish you could fight while on Horseback.

But that's just nutty how easy they die from falling, yet will run up to and kick dragons in the face .


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 21:10:36


Post by: Goliath


I jumped off of my horse during a dragon attack, sprinted through the dragon's frost breath and started hacking at it, without being able to see it.

When the breath attack had ended, and the glare from the dragon soul being absorbed had died down, there was silence.

None of the normal heavy breathing could be heard.

I looked to my right to see my faithful companion lain low by a combination of the dragon and my dual wield power attacks.

I paused for a moment as a mark of respect.

Then skinned him and walked off.

I will say that I haven't bought another horse since that occasion though, out of respect.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 21:31:44


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I got shadowmere from the DB quest and now he follows me everywhere I go, it's kinda creepy.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 21:42:32


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Avatar 720 wrote:Care to elaborate? I don't want to mess it up too if I can avoid it.


There's a glitch where this guy who's supposed to open the temple dissapears off the face of the planet when you go in the temple. Save before going in I guess.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 21:58:26


Post by: Alexzandvar


Anyone else have a problem with dead people calling in Hits on you for stealing there things?

Because I found an a shack with an old witch lady in it, but then she got killed by Necromancers so I raided her house. But she is still calling in bounty hunters on me.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 22:11:51


Post by: Corpsesarefun


The necromancers resurrected her, simple.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 22:27:59


Post by: Jollydevil


KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Avatar 720 wrote:Care to elaborate? I don't want to mess it up too if I can avoid it.


There's a glitch where this guy who's supposed to open the temple dissapears off the face of the planet when you go in the temple. Save before going in I guess.
Ah, this happened to me. Had to go way back and re get the quest, walk up the mountain for 20 minutes, and then finally i did it again, and it worked.
Other than going to a previous save, i dont think you can fix it.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 23:14:28


Post by: Alexzandvar


corpsesarefun wrote:The necromancers resurrected her, simple.


Can that actually happen

Because if so, I am so ed


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 23:20:40


Post by: Corpsesarefun


I have no idea, crazy things happen in skyrim.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 23:42:52


Post by: JohnnoM


^agreed.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/08 23:53:24


Post by: KingCracker


What happens in Skyrim............confuses even Neo


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 05:05:32


Post by: Dunwich


@corpsesarefun. Thanks for the tips. I have been doing something similar with enchanting, but instead of visiting court wizards, I have been going to the shops that sell everything (eg. Bits and Pieces) and buying all their filled souls gems, then just selling them potions to make my money back.

At this point I have unlimited expensive potions to sell to alchemists and misc sellers, so money is not really an issue.


RE leveling alchemy

You can level alchemy pretty fast, so long as you look at the wiki for good recipes to level you. Basically I do this: Mix up a bunch of expensive potions, go from town to town, buying EVERY ingredient, then selling potions until the vender doesn't have any more money, then move onto the next town.

You end up with unlimited ingredients and unlimited potions.

For reference:
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Alchemy_Tips


RE: Horses.
The best use of a horse is riding up mountains.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 06:19:01


Post by: KamikazeCanuck


Jollydevil wrote:
KamikazeCanuck wrote:
Avatar 720 wrote:Care to elaborate? I don't want to mess it up too if I can avoid it.


There's a glitch where this guy who's supposed to open the temple dissapears off the face of the planet when you go in the temple. Save before going in I guess.
Ah, this happened to me. Had to go way back and re get the quest, walk up the mountain for 20 minutes, and then finally i did it again, and it worked.
Other than going to a previous save, i dont think you can fix it.


Interwebz says if I wait 110ish hours it might fix itself....


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 16:17:28


Post by: Avatar 720


Hmmm Skyrim doesn't like me rolling anymore. I've had 3 freezes and a crash in the past two days that all occur mid-roll, and the game has slowed down substantially for no visible reason at all.

All my hardware seems to be in order, so i'm going to delete a chunk of my obsolete saves and see if that does anything.

EDIT: Now unplayable, latest freeze happened about 3 minutes in. Discovered it wasn't due to rolling around, though.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 17:52:08


Post by: Anvildude


You keep talking about rolling. What is this rolling you speak of?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 17:54:04


Post by: Avatar 720


A Sneak perk. Pressing the 'run' button whilst in sneak mode executes a stealth roll, and on the PC at least, if your weapons are out then you can hold it down for a continuous roll, otherwise you have press it every time.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 18:59:24


Post by: thenoobbomb


Thats cool!
What level is needed for it?
Also, do you play on pc? It sucks that it doesnt work any more.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 19:02:15


Post by: Corpsesarefun


50 sneak I think.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 19:03:34


Post by: thenoobbomb


Thats a lot for me.
Time to wait...
*sigh*


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 19:08:33


Post by: Avatar 720


thenoobbomb wrote:Thats cool!
What level is needed for it?
Also, do you play on pc? It sucks that it doesnt work any more.


Yeah, PC. I've verified the game cache and i'm about to re-try, but I honestly can't be bothered restarting the computer every time I want to test if it's fixed.

If this hasn't fixed it, then i'm just going to try a full re-install, but that can wait until tomorrow.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 19:09:25


Post by: thenoobbomb


Put your savegames in dropbox.


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 19:19:09


Post by: GangstaMuffin24


Long story short I switched over to Windows 7 from XP recently, but I still have my old hard drive. Anyone know where you can find Skyrim's save files?


The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim @ 2012/01/09 19:37:42


Post by: Corpsesarefun


Open my computer hit ctrl+f and type in skyrim, the save files will be in one of those folders.

Mine were in C:\Users\Tom\Documents\My Games\Skyrim