I'm trying to use the FW transports like, Thunderhawks, Sokar Pattern Stormbird, Storm Eagle, Assault Ram...
Did I miss any?

 War Kitten wrote:
So one of my Knights is going to honor duel one of TS's Knights. Anyone want to have someone from their faction in the audience? Both me and TS are doing write-ups for it when the time comes.

Where?/When? I'll have Riley attend.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
you aren't a first founding chapter.

Aren't I Spam? Aren't I?

 Bobthehero wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
So one of my Knights is going to honor duel one of TS's Knights. Anyone want to have someone from their faction in the audience? Both me and TS are doing write-ups for it when the time comes.

Where?/When? I'll have Riley attend.

We're still working on that, but part of the fluff of mine and TS's Knight Houses is that they really don't like each other that much (think Dark Angels and Space Wolves levels of dislike). So I'd imagine it would be pretty soon after the new Crusade starts. One of the reasons I mentioned it to TS was to bring all the Imperial Commanders together so that alliances can be made, and some nice RP can happen for our leaders.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
you aren't a first founding chapter.

Aren't I Spam? Aren't I?

No, you are a renegade chapter as you clearly stated.

Progress Report: My Kroot Shaper has received a name. I might just recycle some names that I used around once from my Kroot story...

Hm, in that case you might get Edward down there with a small group of his troops and cuddlessar

Again. I just saw this as a cool narrative opportunity for me and TS, and a chance for the rest of you guys to meet each other's commanders (if you so choose), form alliances, grudges, whatever else. It's to help out the narrative if it can

Its a good idea. My "may" rather depends on how sore he's feeling, whether I kill off Selka, and how sunny it is.

 War Kitten wrote:
Again. I just saw this as a cool narrative opportunity for me and TS, and a chance for the rest of you guys to meet each other's commanders (if you so choose), form alliances, grudges, whatever else. It's to help out the narrative if it can

Would it be possible for Grulahk and Kronus, the renegade's captain (Guess what theme the Chapter is ) be able to watch, probably from a distance, or maybe even closish?

basically minimum safe distance.

I like the idea of a bunch of Imperial being surprised at a Kroot showing up and playing nice. Of course, it might be bad to show up uninvited and without warning. That tends to get xenos diplomats killed.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Again. I just saw this as a cool narrative opportunity for me and TS, and a chance for the rest of you guys to meet each other's commanders (if you so choose), form alliances, grudges, whatever else. It's to help out the narrative if it can

Would it be possible for Grulahk and Kronus, the renegade's captain (Guess what theme the Chapter is ) be able to watch, probably from a distance, or maybe even closish?

basically minimum safe distance.

Now that. I don't know. Might have to be a roll to see whether or not you get noticed. Ask TS or Chazz.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
I like the idea of a bunch of Imperial being surprised at a Kroot showing up and playing nice. Of course, it might be bad to show up uninvited and without warning. That tends to get xenos diplomats killed.

I'd like to think the Kroot might not get shot. They have a reputation for working alongside Imperial forces, so the knee-jerk reaction to shoot a xeno may not kick in.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Again. I just saw this as a cool narrative opportunity for me and TS, and a chance for the rest of you guys to meet each other's commanders (if you so choose), form alliances, grudges, whatever else. It's to help out the narrative if it can

Would it be possible for Grulahk and Kronus, the renegade's captain (Guess what theme the Chapter is ) be able to watch, probably from a distance, or maybe even closish?

basically minimum safe distance.

Do your factions have a death wish, Kharne? You are walking onto the ship of Imperial Knights... which is full of the crusade commanders and their bodyguards...

I actually thought it might happen on the planet TS.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Again. I just saw this as a cool narrative opportunity for me and TS, and a chance for the rest of you guys to meet each other's commanders (if you so choose), form alliances, grudges, whatever else. It's to help out the narrative if it can

Would it be possible for Grulahk and Kronus, the renegade's captain (Guess what theme the Chapter is ) be able to watch, probably from a distance, or maybe even closish?

basically minimum safe distance.

Do your factions have a death wish, Kharne? You are walking onto the ship of Imperial Knights... which is full of the crusade commanders and their bodyguards...

i wouldn't say a death wish. But they do like to be in a zone that is one of danger.

 War Kitten wrote:
I actually thought it might happen on the planet TS.

So there would be active Knight titans around. Why would anyone try to approach that?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I actually thought it might happen on the planet TS.

So there would be active Knight titans around. Why would anyone try to approach that?

Because I can take those risks

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I actually thought it might happen on the planet TS.

So there would be active Knight titans around. Why would anyone try to approach that?

Because I can take those risks

PM me a number Kharne.

Just let him have it TS. It's not that big of an issue. Or if he must give a number, give him a bonus on it or something. Or at the very least let his guys see the duel for a bit before a Knight tries to shove a Reaper chainsword down their throats.

 War Kitten wrote:
Just let him have it TS. It's not that big of an issue. Or if he must give a number, give him a bonus on it or something. Or at the very least let his guys see the duel for a bit before a Knight tries to shove a Reaper chainsword down their throats.

Here, if I roll well, I get to watch

If i roll poorly I have to book it out of there

Does anyone remember the scale Smudge used? It would be nice to have...

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Just let him have it TS. It's not that big of an issue. Or if he must give a number, give him a bonus on it or something. Or at the very least let his guys see the duel for a bit before a Knight tries to shove a Reaper chainsword down their throats.

Here, if I roll well, I get to watch

If i roll poorly I have to book it out of there

If you roll poorly Gruhlak will get to meet the business end of an Avenger Gatling Cannon

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Does anyone remember the scale Smudge used? It would be nice to have...

I think if it's within 5 its a Major Victory

within 10 a Victory

within 15 Minor Victory

within 20 Draw

within 25 Minor Defeat

within 30 Defeat

within 35 Major Defeat

I don't know, I could be wrong, what did i roll?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Does anyone remember the scale Smudge used? It would be nice to have...

Ask him next time he's online. Or are you trying to do the roll right now?

Oh good, then I can still crash the party. Actually, my Shaper, Ta'lok, might find it amusing if some guns were drawn on him. A bit of a challenge to him, to use that silver tongue of his to have them drop the weapons.

Kharne, I hope for your sake that you made TS taste some of his own medicine and rolled a fifty for him to work with.

2BlackJack1 wrote:Oh good, then I can still crash the party. Actually, my Shaper, Ta'lok, might find it amusing if some guns were drawn on him. A bit of a challenge to him, to use that silver tongue of his to have them drop the weapons.

Good lord, one of my teachers names is Tollak

2BlackJack1 wrote:Kharne, I hope for your sake that you made TS taste some of his own medicine and rolled a fifty for him to work with.

I gave him 53 so i hope it's a 50

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Does anyone remember the scale Smudge used? It would be nice to have...

I think if it's within 5 its a Major Victory

within 10 a Victory

within 15 Minor Victory

within 20 Draw

within 25 Minor Defeat

within 30 Defeat

within 35 Major Defeat

I don't know, I could be wrong, what did i roll?

I am going to take that and edit it slightly.

Major Victory: Within 5
Victory: Within 15
Minor Victory: within 25
Stalemate: Within 35
Minor Defeat: Within 45
Defeat: within 55
Major defeat: everything else.

So what did I get?

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
So what did I get?

That is for you to share, not me.

Most of the names I come up with for my Kroot are cambodian/khmer. So Ta'lok is grandfather (ta) and one of respectable authority/monks (lok).

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Does anyone remember the scale Smudge used? It would be nice to have...

I think if it's within 5 its a Major Victory

within 10 a Victory

within 15 Minor Victory

within 20 Draw

within 25 Minor Defeat

within 30 Defeat

within 35 Major Defeat

I don't know, I could be wrong, what did i roll?

I am going to take that and edit it slightly.

Major Victory: Within 5
Victory: Within 15
Minor Victory: within 25
Stalemate: Within 35
Minor Defeat: Within 45
Defeat: within 55
Major defeat: everything else.

Thats hideous.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Does anyone remember the scale Smudge used? It would be nice to have...

I think if it's within 5 its a Major Victory

within 10 a Victory

within 15 Minor Victory

within 20 Draw

within 25 Minor Defeat

within 30 Defeat

within 35 Major Defeat

I don't know, I could be wrong, what did i roll?

I am going to take that and edit it slightly.

Major Victory: Within 5
Victory: Within 15
Minor Victory: within 25
Stalemate: Within 35
Minor Defeat: Within 45
Defeat: within 55
Major defeat: everything else.

Thats hideous.

How is that hideous? That's the closest I could remember to Smudge's...

Most of my Knight names are just names of people I know, or names I made up on the spot. My CSM names I'm going to go fo a more Dwarven feel (for example my Lord is Harkan Ironfist)

Damn, rolled a defeat.

So I get to watch for a minute untill the IK go, "wtf is that on the ridge?" "idk shoot it" "Ok"

Then I run away with jazz hands


I'm basing my Renegade chapter off of the Greek Pantheon, When I do a 1K sons army I'll use the Egyptian pantheon

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Damn, rolled a defeat.

So I get to watch for a minute untill the IK go, "wtf is that on the ridge?" "idk shoot it" "Ok"

Then I run away with jazz hands

I got it wrong, Minor defeat.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Damn, rolled a defeat.

So I get to watch for a minute untill the IK go, "wtf is that on the ridge?" "idk shoot it" "Ok"

Then I run away with jazz hands

I got it wrong, Minor defeat.

So how should i tweak it?

So you watch for a minute, then one of my Knights walks over and tries to introduce you to the business end of a Battle Cannon

 War Kitten wrote:
So you watch for a minute, then one of my Knights walks over and tries to introduce you to the business end of a Battle Cannon

How would that even work?

Can I leave a message when I teleport away?

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Damn, rolled a defeat.

So I get to watch for a minute untill the IK go, "wtf is that on the ridge?" "idk shoot it" "Ok"

Then I run away with jazz hands

I got it wrong, Minor defeat.

So how should i tweak it?

I would say you watch for a good 5 minutes.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Damn, rolled a defeat.

So I get to watch for a minute untill the IK go, "wtf is that on the ridge?" "idk shoot it" "Ok"

Then I run away with jazz hands

I got it wrong, Minor defeat.

So how should i tweak it?

I would say you watch for a good 5 minutes.

I have it !

So Grulahk is on a hill somewhere wearing a hood.
A stray battle cannon shot lands near him and knocks his hood back
some people look where the shot goes.
"Oops" Everyone starts to charge.
I teleport away and leave a message

You do realize the honor duel is out of the Knight suits, and with blunted swords?

 War Kitten wrote:
You do realize the honor duel is out of the Knight suits, and with blunted swords?

Why? It should be a duel to the death, not 2 manchildren playing with foam swords!

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
You do realize the honor duel is out of the Knight suits, and with blunted swords?

Why? It should be a duel to the death, not 2 manchildren playing with foam swords!

For one thing, me and TS don't have enough bodies to go around murdering each other. Two, my combatant in the fight is actually a woman. Three, you really don't get the concept of an "honor" duel do you?

*Peoplechildren

An honor duel is just like a bragging rights thing, right?

One person proves their better and therefore has more honor right?

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
You do realize the honor duel is out of the Knight suits, and with blunted swords?

Why? It should be a duel to the death, not 2 manchildren playing with foam swords!

Knight pilots aren't a dime a dozen you know?

Definitely hitting you with a battle cannon now. Prepare for maximum battlecannon

 War Kitten wrote:

Definitely hitting you with a battle cannon now. Prepare for maximum battlecannon

Novacannon*

 War Kitten wrote:

Definitely hitting you with a battle cannon now. Prepare for maximum battlecannon

Please explain to me how an honor duel works, i have an idea

Essentially. My house doesn't like TS's house one bit. We have a rivalry so to speak. So whenever we deploy on the same battlefield, we hold a duel. For various reasons

Is it like SW and DA, where they have a brother type relation of I want to hit you, but I'll beat anyone else that hits you, because only I can do that?

Or Romeo and Juliet, I hate you, if I bump into you, and you give me a good enough reason, I'll kill you where you stand?

 War Kitten wrote:
Essentially. My house doesn't like TS's house one bit. We have a rivalry so to speak. So whenever we deploy on the same battlefield, we hold a duel. For various reasons

Is it a challenge thing? Say, TS calls you out and vice versa?

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
Is it like SW and DA, where they have a brother type relation of I want to hit you, but I'll beat anyone else that hits you, because only I can do that?

Or Romeo and Juliet, I hate you, if I bump into you, and you give me a good enough reason, I'll kill you where you stand?

You know. I'm not too sure. We didn't really talk about it too much, other than the fact that we would duel. Hmm. Need to figure that out don't I?

Both have good writing potential, and I'm not going to tell you what would be better for your army.

WK, would it be possible for Grulahk to challenge one of your knight pilots to an Honor Duel?

Lets say that the pilot is not in his big killy thingy and nobody's around

Why would he not just kill you? You're not imperial.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
WK, would it be possible for Grulahk to challenge one of your knight pilots to an Honor Duel?

Lets say that the pilot is not in his big killy thingy and nobody's around

Why would nobody be around? And if nobody is around, what is stopping me from capping Grulahk 40 times?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
WK, would it be possible for Grulahk to challenge one of your knight pilots to an Honor Duel?

Lets say that the pilot is not in his big killy thingy and nobody's around

Why would nobody be around? And if nobody is around, what is stopping me from capping Grulahk 40 times?

I don't know, maybe he would feel less honorable if he turned down a challenge?

Help me make this work

Marcus is such a troll.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Does anyone remember the scale Smudge used? It would be nice to have...

Mentioning it now, neither do I.
This is my best way of recreating it, and I think for streamlining purposes, neutral/draw can be removed.

Major Victory: < 5
Victory: < 10
Minor Victory: < 25
Minor Defeat: < 30
Defeat: < 40
Major Defeat: < 50

Looking at this now, there really is a huge chance of getting over 50, but there needs to be a risk of getting Major Defeats even when playing 50s. Not a perfect system by any means, and I wouldn't object to a fairer method.

I'm new here, but it looks very interesting. So is it too late for me to add anything to this thread? I've seen the forces left, but I'm unsure of the system you guys have going on. So could someone give me a point in the right direction please?

 Decay wrote:
I'm new here, but it looks very interesting. So is it too late for me to add anything to this thread? I've seen the forces left, but I'm unsure of the system you guys have going on. So could someone give me a point in the right direction please?

We're preparing for the end times of this crusade, so joining now wouldn't allow much for your forces to do in this crusade. If you still want to join despite that, I'm all for it, but I figured I should let you know.

We are in fact doing a second crusade after that (Crusade of Fury: Night of the Living Bird Men) and you are more than welcome to that, and will start on the same footing as everyone else.

Ok, I will wait for that second one, any idea when that will be?

 Decay wrote:
Ok, I will wait for that second one, any idea when that will be?

Not entirely sure, I'm afraid. We still have a couple major plot lines to wrap up. I'd ask Smudge, he runs this crusade, and will know more about it.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:

 Decay wrote:
I'm new here, but it looks very interesting. So is it too late for me to add anything to this thread? I've seen the forces left, but I'm unsure of the system you guys have going on. So could someone give me a point in the right direction please?

We're preparing for the end times of this crusade, so joining now wouldn't allow much for your forces to do in this crusade. If you still want to join despite that, I'm all for it, but I figured I should let you know.

We are in fact doing a second crusade after that (Crusade of Fury: Night of the Living Bird Men) and you are more than welcome to that, and will start on the same footing as everyone else.

Crusade of Fury: Second Sun, The Night of the Living Bird Men (Electric Boogaloo Edition)
CoF:SS,TNotLBM(EBE)

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 2BlackJack1 wrote:

 Decay wrote:
I'm new here, but it looks very interesting. So is it too late for me to add anything to this thread? I've seen the forces left, but I'm unsure of the system you guys have going on. So could someone give me a point in the right direction please?

We're preparing for the end times of this crusade, so joining now wouldn't allow much for your forces to do in this crusade. If you still want to join despite that, I'm all for it, but I figured I should let you know.

We are in fact doing a second crusade after that (Crusade of Fury: Night of the Living Bird Men) and you are more than welcome to that, and will start on the same footing as everyone else.

Crusade of Fury: Second Sun, The Night of the Living Bird Men (Electric Boogaloo Edition)
CoF:SS,TNotLBM(EBE)

Mother of God-Emperor.

Glorious, is it not?

I love it!

Its not getting called that,

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Its not getting called that,

I hope not

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Its not getting called that,

I hope not

Honestly, I came up with a reasonable title then you guys felt the need to mess with it.

I kinda want to start another army but I kinda want more Necrons... what do?

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I kinda want to start another army but I kinda want more Necrons... what do?

You stick to what you have.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I kinda want to start another army but I kinda want more Necrons... what do?

You stick to what you have.

What Necrons would you buy with 125$?

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I kinda want to start another army but I kinda want more Necrons... what do?

You stick to what you have.

What Necrons would you buy with 125$?

I would start by hitting up the 40K Gneral Discussion. They would love to help you.

Maybe I'll by some FW stuff

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Maybe I'll by some FW stuff

Maybe you should discuss this in the 40K General Discussion

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Maybe I'll by some FW stuff

Maybe you should discuss this in the 40K General Discussion

Maybe, but later, now for school...

Gotta love college. I go at 8 and get back at noon here

I'm thinking an unorthodox faction of Tau, air-cav Guardsmen (probably not, seeing as we have a large percentage of Imperial dudes) or bringing Aurelius back into this newer Crusade (once I decide whether or not to kill him off in this one )

Or two, if the GMs would allow it.

New map has been added to the op.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I'm thinking an unorthodox faction of Tau, air-cav Guardsmen (probably not, seeing as we have a large percentage of Imperial dudes) or bringing Aurelius back into this newer Crusade (once I decide whether or not to kill him off in this one )

Or two, if the GMs would allow it.

The Imperial to Xeno/Chaos ratio is actually very even at the moment. And two factions are fine according to Chazz. I have two already

 War Kitten wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I'm thinking an unorthodox faction of Tau, air-cav Guardsmen (probably not, seeing as we have a large percentage of Imperial dudes) or bringing Aurelius back into this newer Crusade (once I decide whether or not to kill him off in this one )

Or two, if the GMs would allow it.

The Imperial to Xeno/Chaos ratio is actually very even at the moment. And two factions are fine according to Chazz. I have two already

They are perfectly even

Have next chunk up when I can. Life has me a tad worried of late and not cpndusive tp writing.

What happened to the moons, and orbital station?

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
What happened to the moons, and orbital station?

They are still there, I think...

So looking at the map, will we be deploying on the locations marked on the map? Or how are we working it?

 War Kitten wrote:
So looking at the map, will we be deploying on the locations marked on the map? Or how are we working it?

I think it would work something like that... Each factions takes up a grid space...

So in our case as IK players we'd probably deploy alongside one of the other Imperial Factions.

 War Kitten wrote:
So in our case as IK players we'd probably deploy alongside one of the other Imperial Factions.

Yes

I thought there were going to be other types of terrain?
Mountains, deserts?

And are the landmarks where we're supposed to deploy or entirely incidental?

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I thought there were going to be other types of terrain?
Mountains, deserts?

And are the landmarks where we're supposed to deploy or entirely incidental?

According to Chazz, the entire planet is severely overgrown. You could just call certain areas more mountainous than others.

The land marks are incidental.

Alright, time to pick a spot that seems like a jungle. It'd be good for morale, and hard to attack the Kroot if they have an ambush setup in a place just like their homeland.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
Alright, time to pick a spot that seems like a jungle. It'd be good for morale, and hard to attack the Kroot if they have an ambush setup in a place just like their homeland.

What if I burn it?

That's a shame. :(

It'd have been fun to see stuff like deserts and things other than trees.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
That's a shame. :(

It'd have been fun to see stuff like deserts and things other than trees.

There are underwater hive cities. Are you telling me that isn't fun?

Alright. I guess who wants to have some Imperial Knights deploy alongside them? You have my Knights, and TS's Knights.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
That's a shame. :(

It'd have been fun to see stuff like deserts and things other than trees.

There are underwater hive cities. Are you telling me that isn't fun?

Yes. If you have tanks, Knights or anything that isn't hordes or space marines and infantry.

Unless the knights are secretly transformers, which st this point wouldn't slightly amaze me.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
That's a shame. :(

It'd have been fun to see stuff like deserts and things other than trees.

There are underwater hive cities. Are you telling me that isn't fun?

Yes. If you have tanks, Knights or anything that isn't hordes or space marines and infantry.

Unless the knights are secretly transformers, which st this point wouldn't slightly amaze me.

You caught us Buttery. Me and TS are secretly playing Transformers instead of Knights

There you go, blurb is out, Voidspider is dead, my forces are being moved to the main push.

I left a few men to keep Tainted some company.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
That's a shame. :(

It'd have been fun to see stuff like deserts and things other than trees.

There are underwater hive cities. Are you telling me that isn't fun?

Yes. If you have tanks, Knights or anything that isn't hordes or space marines and infantry.

Unless the knights are secretly transformers, which st this point wouldn't slightly amaze me.

There are mountains, they aren't named. I suppose the deep green on the continent to the right could be thicker woods while the ligher green could be less dense.

All in all, this planet was an agri-world originally and Chazz said the Imperium hasn't been around for a while (Blood Dragons were an SM chapter that had their monestary here)

Oh no, Overgrown plant life will be hard on my giant stampy death walkers.

 War Kitten wrote:
Oh no, Overgrown plant life will be hard on my giant stampy death walkers.

I am thinking there might be super Flora in the really overgroawn parts. Hope you brought weed killer.

Does a Heavy Flamer count?

 War Kitten wrote:
Does a Heavy Flamer count?

It may. Depends on if the plant gets the drop on you first though

This is why I can't have nice things...

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Oh no, Overgrown plant life will be hard on my giant stampy death walkers.

I am thinking there might be super Flora in the really overgroawn parts. Hope you brought weed killer.

Il land some redeamers or such then.....

Jungle warfare. Hmm.... A low yeild bombardment cannon daisy cutter Vietnam style needed for landing.

I can make the wolf\knight team a drop zone.

 jhe90 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Oh no, Overgrown plant life will be hard on my giant stampy death walkers.

I am thinking there might be super Flora in the really overgroawn parts. Hope you brought weed killer.

Il land some redeamers or such then.....

Jungle warfare. Hmm.... A low yeild bombardment cannon daisy cutter Vietnam style needed for landing.

Isn't that meta gaming? You aren't aware there is super flora. You just know there is a lot of plant growth.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Oh no, Overgrown plant life will be hard on my giant stampy death walkers.

I am thinking there might be super Flora in the really overgroawn parts. Hope you brought weed killer.

Il land some redeamers or such then.....

Jungle warfare. Hmm.... A low yeild bombardment cannon daisy cutter Vietnam style needed for landing.

Isn't that meta gaming? You aren't aware there is super flora. You just know there is a lot of plant growth.

Time to make ourselves a landing zone boys.

 War Kitten wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
That's a shame. :(

It'd have been fun to see stuff like deserts and things other than trees.

There are underwater hive cities. Are you telling me that isn't fun?

Yes. If you have tanks, Knights or anything that isn't hordes or space marines and infantry.

Unless the knights are secretly transformers, which st this point wouldn't slightly amaze me.

You caught us Buttery. Me and TS are secretly playing Transformers instead of Knights

I knew it!

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Oh no, Overgrown plant life will be hard on my giant stampy death walkers.

I am thinking there might be super Flora in the really overgroawn parts. Hope you brought weed killer.

Il land some redeamers or such then.....

Jungle warfare. Hmm.... A low yeild bombardment cannon daisy cutter Vietnam style needed for landing.

Isn't that meta gaming? You aren't aware there is super flora. You just know there is a lot of plant growth.

The dasiey cutter is to clear back the smaller foliage and trees to make flat dropzones for larger craft. I'd need somthing alot bigger for mega fauna. Not meta gaming, its Vietnam style influence.

Vietnam influence, they dropped massive bombS to flatten the trees so you could land a helicopter in your now new clearing.

I see it as tactics, instead of using the watched clearing, come from where they do not expect.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=vietnam+daisy+cutters&safe=off&rlz=1Y3NDUG_enGB508GB508&biw=601&bih=962&prmd=sivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiBjNze9srKAhUD6RQKHU-xBukQ_AUIBigC

It's a tactic from Vietnam and Afghanistan

While it's fun, I kinda feel like CoF 1 was killed off entirely by the CoF II discussion.
This topic went from excitedly discussing plot development and working together, to well, this.

Makes me genuinely uncertain about putting time into writing for either. Not because I want people pay attention and to talk about cuddlessars and oily governors, but because the pace has changed.
It felt more relaxed before.

 jhe90 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 jhe90 wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Oh no, Overgrown plant life will be hard on my giant stampy death walkers.

I am thinking there might be super Flora in the really overgroawn parts. Hope you brought weed killer.

Il land some redeamers or such then.....

Jungle warfare. Hmm.... A low yeild bombardment cannon daisy cutter Vietnam style needed for landing.

Isn't that meta gaming? You aren't aware there is super flora. You just know there is a lot of plant growth.

The dasiey cutter is to clear back the smaller foliage and trees to make flat dropzones for larger craft. I'd need somthing alot bigger for mega fauna. Not meta gaming, its Vietnam style influence.

Vietnam influence, they dropped massive bombS to flatten the trees so you could land a helicopter in your now new clearing.

I see it as tactics, instead of using the watched clearing, come from where they do not expect.

Its a waste to use a redeemer, though.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
While it's fun, I kinda feel like CoF 1 was killed off entirely by the CoF II discussion.
This topic went from excitedly discussing plot development and working together, to well, this.

Makes me genuinely uncertain about putting time into writing for either. Not because I want people pay attention and to talk about cuddlessars and oily governors, but because the pace has changed.
It felt more relaxed before.

I feel the same way, but after Smudge basically announced that the End Times were upon us there's not much else to do other than talk about what's to come.

Could talk about the conclusion of things on Julla, wink wink

Smudge moved it on because of all the pushing for 2 though. :/

It's unavoidable now, but after stuff like TS setting the pace for evacuating a planet (had he not left), and the expedited ending, I'm wondering how much room there even is for slow paced writers like me.
I enjoyed 1 because it was a community effort that wasn't particularly frantic.

 Bobthehero wrote:
Could talk about the conclusion of things on Julla, wink wink

Really well handled, and worth the build up.

I understand BC. I'm hoping to slow things down for the 2nd Crusade. I'll admit I'm guilty of wanting things to go fast in Crusade 1, but now that we're on one planet (plus orbital station and moon) I'm hoping to slow down drastically so I can explore my Knights fluff, and make some cool CSM characters.

I think I'll be running a Tau force for this new Campaign, lots of possibilities with them.
Don't worry about the Kroot, I've already got a fluff plan in place.

Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Buttery Commissar wrote:While it's fun, I kinda feel like CoF 1 was killed off entirely by the CoF II discussion.
This topic went from excitedly discussing plot development and working together, to well, this.

Makes me genuinely uncertain about putting time into writing for either. Not because I want people pay attention and to talk about cuddlessars and oily governors, but because the pace has changed.
It felt more relaxed before.

I do empathise with you there. Whilst it did prompt me to actually prepare an ending for the campaign, it ended up dominating this OOC chat, instead of allowing for constructive critique of our actual work.

That said, the quality of stuff in the OT thread is very good now, very good work chaps/chapettes.

War Kitten wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
While it's fun, I kinda feel like CoF 1 was killed off entirely by the CoF II discussion.
This topic went from excitedly discussing plot development and working together, to well, this.

Makes me genuinely uncertain about putting time into writing for either. Not because I want people pay attention and to talk about cuddlessars and oily governors, but because the pace has changed.
It felt more relaxed before.

I feel the same way, but after Smudge basically announced that the End Times were upon us there's not much else to do other than talk about what's to come.

Mainly because people seemed very keen to move on. Communication between players as to plans for the final battle is welcomed, as always.

Buttery Commissar wrote:Smudge moved it on because of all the pushing for 2 though. :/

It's unavoidable now, but after stuff like TS setting the pace for evacuating a planet (had he not left), and the expedited ending, I'm wondering how much room there even is for slow paced writers like me.
I enjoyed 1 because it was a community effort that wasn't particularly frantic.

Again, I'm not sure how fast-paced I'll be when I join the ranks of PCs, especially since I'm very much a narrative writer, and not too interested in achieving a goal.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I think I'll be running a Tau force for this new Campaign, lots of possibilities with them.
Don't worry about the Kroot, I've already got a fluff plan in place.

Excellent. My CSM intro weirdly depends on this.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I think I'll be running a Tau force for this new Campaign, lots of possibilities with them.
Don't worry about the Kroot, I've already got a fluff plan in place.

Excellent. My CSM intro weirdly depends on this.

Wonderful. I'll be interested in hearing more about this when it's more appropriate.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
While it's fun, I kinda feel like CoF 1 was killed off entirely by the CoF II discussion.
This topic went from excitedly discussing plot development and working together, to well, this.

Makes me genuinely uncertain about putting time into writing for either. Not because I want people pay attention and to talk about cuddlessars and oily governors, but because the pace has changed.
It felt more relaxed before.

I blame myself for that. I kind of lost interest after Gandorf's Passage because there wasn't a direction in which the plot was going. I posted more about internal conflicts than I did for conflicts I had to roll for, as such, when I ran out of internal conflicts, I ran out of ideas.

Ok, because my Kroot would be looking over their shoulders for the Tau, and them wanting the Kroot to focus their efforts on the Greater Good. You say you have a plan though, and so I won't worry about it.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

The map Chazz did doesn't stray far from Kharne's. It is the same design and such, just plant life. He took out the deserts because they didn't fit the plots well.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

Agh, now we do not know what's hidden in that Dense wilderness so.
There's room to find things . Its a pretty blank map that well, there could be anything from a old tractor yo a hidden weapons bunker.

I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

The map Chazz did doesn't stray far from Kharne's. It is the same design and such, just plant life. He took out the deserts because they didn't fit the plots well.

I meant there was a border thing with A-Z, 1-10 I think?
Made it easy to say where you meant.

NOTE TO IMPERIAL FORCES IN CRUSADE OF FURY

I need rolls for the Hybrid assault on Brackus. So far, I need rolls from:

2BlackJack1 (Got)

Tainted (Got)

Bobthehero Got

jhe90 (Got)

War Kitten (Got)

Sgt_Smudge (Got)

chazz huggins Got

ALL ROLLS ATTAINED!


I need to give them to chazz so they can write up the battle.

Il do it now master of the numbered dice.

 Bobthehero wrote:
There you go, blurb is out, Voidspider is dead, my forces are being moved to the main push.

I left a few men to keep Tainted some company.

You realise my guys are pulling out too, right? I don't want to be branded a traitor, and there's not much point in staying on Julla...

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

The map Chazz did doesn't stray far from Kharne's. It is the same design and such, just plant life. He took out the deserts because they didn't fit the plots well.

I meant there was a border thing with A-Z, 1-10 I think?
Made it easy to say where you meant.

I believe Chazz is working on something close to that right now

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

Didn't I give you that number already?

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

Work at own pace, your a trader/admech, so you have ore room for internal plots.
I'm not fastest, lots of old chapter ruins to explore etc.
Write when you can, what you enjoy and just do what you can and want.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I feel that it was mostly my fault. COF has slowed down rather drastically and someone mentioned the idea for the second one, and then it took off from there. I get obsessive with things rather easily, so I kept mentioning it and discussing it with the others. It's my fault, and it's screwing everyone else over.

Bobthehero wrote:Didn't I give you that number already?

You gave me a number for the final battle against everything else, this is just against the Hybrids. Unless you want me to use the same number?

War Kitten wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I feel that it was mostly my fault. COF has slowed down rather drastically and someone mentioned the idea for the second one, and then it took off from there. I get obsessive with things rather easily, so I kept mentioning it and discussing it with the others. It's my fault, and it's screwing everyone else over.

Not at all. It's all fine by me.

Here's some constructive criticism: add terrain
All I saw was jungle and jungle
My previous statement still stands

Also, I think I killed CoF I. I started the whole discussion about it

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Bobthehero wrote:Didn't I give you that number already?

You gave me a number for the final battle against everything else, this is just against the Hybrids. Unless you want me to use the same number?

Yeah, lets go with that

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

It's an interesting concept. Would that 1 roll be for both factions? Or one roll for each of my factions?

 War Kitten wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

It's an interesting concept. Would that 1 roll be for both factions? Or one roll for each of my factions?

Each faction would take one roll. Apart from that would be narrative character building.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Bobthehero wrote:Didn't I give you that number already?

You gave me a number for the final battle against everything else, this is just against the Hybrids. Unless you want me to use the same number?

Yeah, lets go with that

Cool beans.

One problem I have with that idea is that I use the action rolls to form some form of internal conflicts. I wouldn't have much to work with, and I would worry that Crusade progress would slow to a halt, if we only have one day with actual story progress once a week, and everything else doesn't actually mean much in the bigger picture.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

My rolls for social things have been in groups of 1-3 that steer the conversation.

For example when my group went to discuss with the governor:

- Roll for Selka to convince the governor to recall men and allow screening.
- - [If failure] Roll for Selka to resist choking governor.
- Roll for Fairfax to play good cop and convince him instead.

These were only for major permission or social rolls. I have done <10 thus far I think.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
One problem I have with that idea is that I use the action rolls to form some form of internal conflicts. I wouldn't have much to work with, and I would worry that Crusade progress would slow to a halt, if we only have one day with actual story progress once a week, and everything else doesn't actually mean much in the bigger picture.

Everything is story progress and it does mean a lot in the bigger picture. Think about every one of my plots. Most of those revolved around something fleshed out in a "narrative blurb."

Allowing one roll would make you really consider your options. Another idea to go with this, would be more active modifiers. If you have a lot of forces on your side for an attack, you will get a little bonues to your roll, more forces against you will give you a negative modifier, etc. I will explain when the time comes.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
One problem I have with that idea is that I use the action rolls to form some form of internal conflicts. I wouldn't have much to work with, and I would worry that Crusade progress would slow to a halt, if we only have one day with actual story progress once a week, and everything else doesn't actually mean much in the bigger picture.

Well I tend to do 3-4 smaller actions as part of one Larger goal so don,t know.
Maybe we when we start, see how things go and then start deciding, give it a week or two to see what kind of pace fits best.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Here's some constructive criticism: add terrain
All I saw was jungle and jungle
My previous statement still stands

Also, I think I killed CoF I. I started the whole discussion about it

its an agri world, there meaning its a lush over grown space, there are still mountains and grasslands, just no wastelands or deserts. plus I was going to redo the moons to include all the terrain that got left out of the main world

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

It's an interesting concept. Would that 1 roll be for both factions? Or one roll for each of my factions?

Each faction would take one roll. Apart from that would be narrative character building.

How would narrative character building work with tyranids? They were my plan for CoF ll and I don't really know what narrative character building would be for them.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
One problem I have with that idea is that I use the action rolls to form some form of internal conflicts. I wouldn't have much to work with, and I would worry that Crusade progress would slow to a halt, if we only have one day with actual story progress once a week, and everything else doesn't actually mean much in the bigger picture.

Everything is story progress and it does mean a lot in the bigger picture. Think about every one of my plots. Most of those revolved around something fleshed out in a "narrative blurb."

Allowing one roll would make you really consider your options. Another idea to go with this, would be more active modifiers. If you have a lot of forces on your side for an attack, you will get a little bonues to your roll, more forces against you will give you a negative modifier, etc. I will explain when the time comes.

Quite honestly as someone who's been running narrative-only since I joined, 1 per week is too restrictive.

I would say cap it if GMs are busy, but I've needed 2-3 to get things going as springing points.

For example I needed permission to explore and land, but also a success rate for my search parties.

 EvergreenArcher wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

It's an interesting concept. Would that 1 roll be for both factions? Or one roll for each of my factions?

Each faction would take one roll. Apart from that would be narrative character building.

How would narrative character building work with tyranids? They were my plan for CoF ll and I don't really know what narrative character building would be for them.

Can you do the narrative portions from the perspective of a Genestealer Cult maybe?

 EvergreenArcher wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

It's an interesting concept. Would that 1 roll be for both factions? Or one roll for each of my factions?

Each faction would take one roll. Apart from that would be narrative character building.

How would narrative character building work with tyranids? They were my plan for CoF ll and I don't really know what narrative character building would be for them.

thats a good question as Nids don't really have characters, my suggestion would be maybe physically evolving your Brood Lord every so often, just avoid becoming OP and unfluffy like oh Now my Brood lord is invisible and can speak gothic. lol also you could do cool flashes of what its like inside a tyranid's mind. like maybe it consumes something and gains it memories like a space marine does idk.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
One problem I have with that idea is that I use the action rolls to form some form of internal conflicts. I wouldn't have much to work with, and I would worry that Crusade progress would slow to a halt, if we only have one day with actual story progress once a week, and everything else doesn't actually mean much in the bigger picture.

Everything is story progress and it does mean a lot in the bigger picture. Think about every one of my plots. Most of those revolved around something fleshed out in a "narrative blurb."

Allowing one roll would make you really consider your options. Another idea to go with this, would be more active modifiers. If you have a lot of forces on your side for an attack, you will get a little bonues to your roll, more forces against you will give you a negative modifier, etc. I will explain when the time comes.

Quite honestly as someone who's been running narrative-only since I joined, 1 per week is too restrictive.

I would say cap it if GMs are busy, but I've needed 2-3 to get things going as springing points.

For example I needed permission to explore and land, but also a success rate for my search parties.

I hadn't realised how you guys rolled. I'm sure we can come up with a plan to make it work.

My Knights will probably also have a narrative slant this time around, so I'm not too sure how many rolls I might need per week for them

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
One problem I have with that idea is that I use the action rolls to form some form of internal conflicts. I wouldn't have much to work with, and I would worry that Crusade progress would slow to a halt, if we only have one day with actual story progress once a week, and everything else doesn't actually mean much in the bigger picture.

Everything is story progress and it does mean a lot in the bigger picture. Think about every one of my plots. Most of those revolved around something fleshed out in a "narrative blurb."

Allowing one roll would make you really consider your options. Another idea to go with this, would be more active modifiers. If you have a lot of forces on your side for an attack, you will get a little bonues to your roll, more forces against you will give you a negative modifier, etc. I will explain when the time comes.

Quite honestly as someone who's been running narrative-only since I joined, 1 per week is too restrictive.

I would say cap it if GMs are busy, but I've needed 2-3 to get things going as springing points.

For example I needed permission to explore and land, but also a success rate for my search parties.

no one per week is a minimum with feel free to spam us, as per character development pieces those are completely free on you, just don't say "Oh you see my Captain needed to single handedly wipe out every ork on the contienent as it was critical to his character development" stuff that involves non combat or minor incidents of combat are free to use and require no roll

So basically it's like this.

If one of my Knights wants to have a discussion with Jhe's leader or someone else I'm free to post however many of those I want. Or if my CSM get into a minor scuffle with some feral Orks I can post those whenever I want, and say I won. But if my CSM decide to go launch an attack on BC's AdMech, or Bob's Scions I'd have to roll and that would essentially be their "big" action for the week?

 chazz huggins wrote:

 EvergreenArcher wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

It's an interesting concept. Would that 1 roll be for both factions? Or one roll for each of my factions?

Each faction would take one roll. Apart from that would be narrative character building.

How would narrative character building work with tyranids? They were my plan for CoF ll and I don't really know what narrative character building would be for them.

thats a good question as Nids don't really have characters, my suggestion would be maybe physically evolving your Brood Lord every so often, just avoid becoming OP and unfluffy like oh Now my Brood lord is invisible and can speak gothic. lol also you could do cool flashes of what its like inside a tyranid's mind. like maybe it consumes something and gains it memories like a space marine does idk.

I think that sounds like a pretty nice idea to look in the minds of its killed enemies.

 War Kitten wrote:
So basically it's like this.

If one of my Knights wants to have a discussion with Jhe's leader or someone else I'm free to post however many of those I want. Or if my CSM get into a minor scuffle with some feral Orks I can post those whenever I want, and say I won. But if my CSM decide to go launch an attack on BC's AdMech, or Bob's Scions I'd have to roll and that would essentially be their "big" action for the week?

yeah but your not limited to only doing one action per week, any time you attack another faction weather it be another player's or an NPC you need to roll the same if you want to do something that is big like Narlug's Gargant, that has to be rolled for. if your ever not sure if you need to roll just PM me or TS and we will tell you.

 chazz huggins wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
One problem I have with that idea is that I use the action rolls to form some form of internal conflicts. I wouldn't have much to work with, and I would worry that Crusade progress would slow to a halt, if we only have one day with actual story progress once a week, and everything else doesn't actually mean much in the bigger picture.

Everything is story progress and it does mean a lot in the bigger picture. Think about every one of my plots. Most of those revolved around something fleshed out in a "narrative blurb."

Allowing one roll would make you really consider your options. Another idea to go with this, would be more active modifiers. If you have a lot of forces on your side for an attack, you will get a little bonues to your roll, more forces against you will give you a negative modifier, etc. I will explain when the time comes.

Quite honestly as someone who's been running narrative-only since I joined, 1 per week is too restrictive.

I would say cap it if GMs are busy, but I've needed 2-3 to get things going as springing points.

For example I needed permission to explore and land, but also a success rate for my search parties.

no one per week is a minimum with feel free to spam us, as per character development pieces those are completely free on you, just don't say "Oh you see my Captain needed to single handedly wipe out every ork on the contienent as it was critical to his character development" stuff that involves non combat or minor incidents of combat are free to use and require no roll

Ahh, I get it.

My Captain needs to adjust the rotation of the planet so that the lunar calendar is exactly 25 days each month. It is critical to his character development.

Ok, so same as I do now. Roll off attacks or Intel missions

I shape the crusade of couples stuff etc no rolls.

 War Kitten wrote:
So basically it's like this.

If one of my Knights wants to have a discussion with Jhe's leader or someone else I'm free to post however many of those I want. Or if my CSM get into a minor scuffle with some feral Orks I can post those whenever I want, and say I won. But if my CSM decide to go launch an attack on BC's AdMech, or Bob's Scions I'd have to roll and that would essentially be their "big" action for the week?

In a nut shell, yes.

I think instead of being limited to one roll a week we should be limited to one or two posts a week

I personally due 3-6 rolls every week

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I think instead of being limited to one roll a week we should be limited to one or two posts a week

I personally due 3-6 rolls every week

That's counter intuitive to the narrative. This isn't a game with a narrative, its a narrative with a game.

The Histans can loan one, if anyone else isn't jumping to that. We owe House Fairfax, so they'd be willing to do it.

Oh, and nice piece, Bob. Very poetic end for Voidspider.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I think instead of being limited to one roll a week we should be limited to one or two posts a week

I personally due 3-6 rolls every week

That's counter intuitive to the narrative. This isn't a game with a narrative, its a narrative with a game.

I understand that, I only do this for the narrative, but the way I develop my narrative is through a series of rolls.

For instance, the result of my 1st roll affects what I roll for next, kinda like a butterfly affect

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
The Histans can loan one, if anyone else isn't jumping to that. We owe House Fairfax, so they'd be willing to do it.

Oh, and nice piece, Bob. Very poetic end for Voidspider.

Entirely open to anyone who wants to loan one. It's a very minor smokescreen role, but it ties in well with what Fairfsx is doing.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I think instead of being limited to one roll a week we should be limited to one or two posts a week

I personally due 3-6 rolls every week

That's counter intuitive to the narrative. This isn't a game with a narrative, its a narrative with a game.

I understand that, I only do this for the narrative, but the way I develop my narrative is through a series of rolls.

For instance, the result of my 1st roll affects what I roll for next, kinda like a butterfly affect

That's not a narrative, persay. Narrative is the conflicts between characters and the story elements.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I think instead of being limited to one roll a week we should be limited to one or two posts a week

I personally due 3-6 rolls every week

That's counter intuitive to the narrative. This isn't a game with a narrative, its a narrative with a game.

I understand that, I only do this for the narrative, but the way I develop my narrative is through a series of rolls.

For instance, the result of my 1st roll affects what I roll for next, kinda like a butterfly affect

That's not a narrative, persay. Narrative is the conflicts between characters and the story elements.

A narrative is, "a spoken or written account of connected events; a story" So yes, it is a narrative

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I think instead of being limited to one roll a week we should be limited to one or two posts a week

I personally due 3-6 rolls every week

That's counter intuitive to the narrative. This isn't a game with a narrative, its a narrative with a game.

I understand that, I only do this for the narrative, but the way I develop my narrative is through a series of rolls.

For instance, the result of my 1st roll affects what I roll for next, kinda like a butterfly affect

That's not a narrative, persay. Narrative is the conflicts between characters and the story elements.

A narrative is, "a spoken or written account of connected events; a story" So yes, it is a narrative

You are missing the point.

No, I don't think I am, what your saying is that 90% of what I wrote in the first Crusade doesn't count as a narrative.

I don't have to write about me interacting with the other factions every time I write. If I want to write about my faction just exploring or working on an outpost or something it still adds to the story.

There you are, BC. One sanctioned psyker. I made him off the walls crazy for comedic effect, and a tendency for cryptic references, but he can see through the veil sometimes, so if you don't want to write in riddles and poems, then by all means, have him be actually fully conscious.

Ok you two (TS and Kharne). Separate corners.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
No, I don't think I am, what your saying is that 90% of what I wrote in the first Crusade doesn't count as a narrative.

I don't have to write about me interacting with the other factions every time I write. If I want to write about my faction just exploring or working on an outpost or something it still adds to the story.

I am just saying that a character who's conflict is only external is kind of dull. Its basic character building 101

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
No, I don't think I am, what your saying is that 90% of what I wrote in the first Crusade doesn't count as a narrative.

I don't have to write about me interacting with the other factions every time I write. If I want to write about my faction just exploring or working on an outpost or something it still adds to the story.

I am just saying that a character who's conflict is only external is kind of dull. Its basic character building 101

Ok, so how is my butterfly effect rolling make my characters void of internal conflict. Your assuming that everything I do then is external conflict which is horrendously wrong. Look at the first Crusade yet again, my characters had plenty of character to them.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
There you are, BC. One sanctioned psyker. I made him off the walls crazy for comedic effect, and a tendency for cryptic references, but he can see through the veil sometimes, so if you don't want to write in riddles and poems, then by all means, have him be actually fully conscious.

Fantastic! And very amusing. Thank you.
Don't worry, I can deal with crazy. I briefly had to do Marcus's oddness after all.

Though it is worth noting that all astropaths are blind. In many cases their eyes are burned out physically by the act of bonding with the God Emperor. At the very least they can't see normally.

I was aware of astropaths being blind, but I wasn't sure what type of psyker Mordos is, so I didn't go in much depth with him. It's pretty much up to you with what you want him to be, and don't feel bad if he dies. I have 0 plans for him, and unfortunately for him, he can't afford the cost of plot armor.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
No, I don't think I am, what your saying is that 90% of what I wrote in the first Crusade doesn't count as a narrative.

I don't have to write about me interacting with the other factions every time I write. If I want to write about my faction just exploring or working on an outpost or something it still adds to the story.

I am just saying that a character who's conflict is only external is kind of dull. Its basic character building 101

Ok, so how is my butterfly effect rolling make my characters void of internal conflict. Your assuming that everything I do then is external conflict which is horrendously wrong. Look at the first Crusade yet again, my characters had plenty of character to them.

Enlighten me then to your internal conflicts.

For the love of the Emperor you two..

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
I was aware of astropaths being blind, but I wasn't sure what type of psyker Mordos is, so I didn't go in much depth with him. It's pretty much up to you with what you want him to be, and don't feel bad if he dies. I have 0 plans for him, and unfortunately for him, he can't afford the cost of plot armor.

Opps, I was tired, and assumed he was one. Should be sleeping instead of typing.

And he won't be killed. He's here to scan Selka and cover the tracks of another Psyker. Which considering first time we met Edward he was suffering from a memory lock, oughtn't be too hard to guess where from.

Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
No, I don't think I am, what your saying is that 90% of what I wrote in the first Crusade doesn't count as a narrative.

I don't have to write about me interacting with the other factions every time I write. If I want to write about my faction just exploring or working on an outpost or something it still adds to the story.

I am just saying that a character who's conflict is only external is kind of dull. Its basic character building 101

Ok, so how is my butterfly effect rolling make my characters void of internal conflict. Your assuming that everything I do then is external conflict which is horrendously wrong. Look at the first Crusade yet again, my characters had plenty of character to them.

Enlighten me then to your internal conflicts.

-Kageros' semi-sanity
-Kageros dealing with the fact that his legions are shattered
-Rak'than having to deal with Kageros and the Court
-Gru'lahk adjusting to going from warrior to a leading position

So forgive me if their not so apparent Overlord of Fluff Law

War Kitten wrote:For the love of the Emperor you two..

Я не собираюсь останавливаться, пока он не делает


Correction, I'm stopping this argument. I refuse to further argue like a child

But they are Necrons... Does stress even apply to them?

I don't see why not. The higher ranking ones are still capable of sentient thought and emotion.

 War Kitten wrote:
I don't see why not. The higher ranking ones are still capable of sentient thought and emotion.

They are capable of sentient thought, but do they really feel? Does a Necron Lord get mad when the mook next to him dies? Can a Necron Lord feel love? Can a Necron Lord be happy?

Certainly. Most of them survived with their minds intact after waking up. And if you don't believe me, I challenge you to prove me wrong that Overlords and the such feel no emotion

 War Kitten wrote:
Certainly. Most of them survived with their minds intact after waking up. And if you don't believe me, I challenge you to prove me wrong that Overlords and the such feel no emotion

From Warhammer Wikia

However, they soon discovered that over an extended period of time, their new robotic bodies dulled their minds and their ability to feel any type of emotion or pleasure... Only the most powerful and strong-willed of the Necron nobility, referred to as Necron Lords, managed to gain access to Necrodermis bodies following biotransference that were sophisticated enough to allow them to maintain their full sentience in the face of the growing dullness of their minds

And Wikipedia,

Sentience is the capacity to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively. Eighteenth-century philosophers used the concept to distinguish the ability to think (reason) from the ability to feel (sentience).

They are aware, but they cannot experience emotion.

I wouldn't trust the wiki at all. But whatever. I firmly believe that Necron Lord or Overlord is still capable of feeling some emotion

TS for the love of God, if he wants sad Necrons, shut the feth up and let him have them.
He's not asking for their tears to cure space cancer or influence the moon.

 War Kitten wrote:
I wouldn't trust the wiki at all.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
TS for the love of God, if he wants sad Necrons, shut the feth up and let him have them.
He's not asking for their tears to cure space cancer or influence the moon.

I better see some Couple's Crusade nonsense happen then.

There's been bigger stretches of fluff in actual BL writers than this. I see no reason to having necrons run the way Kharne wants to. Besides, GW hasn't really set any official limits on how sentient and and how much a necron feels. They even have a guy who thinks orks are just necrontyr painted green, for feth sakes.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I wouldn't trust the wiki at all.

No TS. I'm not kidding you. So much of 40k fluff is malleable and left open to interpretation. So if I want to say that a Necron Overlord can feel emotion then you can't really say anything against it

Buttery Commissar wrote:TS for the love of God, if he wants sad Necrons, shut the feth up and let him have them.
He's not asking for their tears to cure space cancer or influence the moon.

Their more Happy-Insane Necrons.

It said that Lords/Overlords can still feel, and that was exactly who this pertains to, I am not about to have Warriors with feelings

Ok, now that that's been settled, can we please go back to the fething crusade? I'd like that very much.

I would too. So, who's curious about how the Hybrid assault will go?

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
Ok, now that that's been settled, can we please go back to the fething crusade? I'd like that very much.

Yes, lets. So I've decided to keep the RCSM, I've written new fluff and what not.

Also, I'm kinda nervous about the End Times

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
TS for the love of God, if he wants sad Necrons, shut the feth up and let him have them.
He's not asking for their tears to cure space cancer or influence the moon.

I better see some Couple's Crusade nonsense happen then.

Deal.
Kharne: You have a dating choice of Slaanesh CSM, Admech with mechadendrites or the oily governor from Trisburg.

Oh dear, who's BC going to use for the Couple's Crusade?

I'm nervous for it. I think my Histans will end up with the same result from when they first showed up, but that's my pessimism talking.

And I'm pretty sure even Flayed Ones wouldn't touch the oily governor...

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
TS for the love of God, if he wants sad Necrons, shut the feth up and let him have them.
He's not asking for their tears to cure space cancer or influence the moon.

I better see some Couple's Crusade nonsense happen then.

Deal.
Kharne: You have a dating choice of Slaanesh CSM, Admech with mechadendrites or the oily governor from Trisburg.

Can I have all 3?

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
TS for the love of God, if he wants sad Necrons, shut the feth up and let him have them.
He's not asking for their tears to cure space cancer or influence the moon.

I better see some Couple's Crusade nonsense happen then.

Deal.
Kharne: You have a dating choice of Slaanesh CSM, Admech with mechadendrites or the oily governor from Trisburg.

My lungs just died of laughter.

Oh dear. You might want to get that checked out TS

 War Kitten wrote:
Oh dear, who's BC going to use for the Couple's Crusade?

In all seriousness my eligible bachelor was Fairfax and he never came into contact with anybody. Anyone barking after Edward is going to be sorely disappointed, Dekkel is married, and Selka is barely capable of being courteous to one person at a time, so his diary is full.

That leaves the options I gave.
Though WK has met my CSM Captain, I think he's a perfectly reasonable date.

He's a nice guy. And he makes my Khornate Lord look sane

Got a short little blurb up for my Eldar. We are mobilizing for war. And the Couple's Crusade lives on.

Is that Trisburg Governor still for sale?

..I'm pretty sure selling Pavus's brother to an amorous Necron may get me nailed to a wall.

* Rileys crawls down from the ceiling *

'' Sooooooooooooooooooooooomething you need to tell us? ''

Eh eh eh eh

Did Riley become spiderman or something when I wasn't looking?

Possibly, although it should've been either Gallus or Castella, because they're really the infiltration specialists.

 War Kitten wrote:
Did Riley become spiderman or something when I wasn't looking?

He's Tom Cruise.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Did Riley become spiderman or something when I wasn't looking?

He's Tom Cruise.

Please? That would be amazing

 War Kitten wrote:
Did Riley become spiderman or something when I wasn't looking?

I'm more curious as to who he's asking the question. Because if it's me he is not very good at his job.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
Did Riley become spiderman or something when I wasn't looking?

I'm more curious as to who he's asking the question. Because if it's me he is not very good at his job.

He's asking Bob

Ah, thought he was asking about the weird convo on the previous page.

He was

I was asking more about Riley crawling down from the ceiling

Well finaly got a full force org for new crusade
Charecters, named, and rough numbers

Got to name my packs but getting there

According to the first page, you're named after the high king of Skyrim.

Would anyone be irritated if I made the founder of my Chapter/Warband named Dave (as an homage to Dave from MWG)? TS and I had a funny conversation about it.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
According to the first page, you're named after the high king of Skyrim.

Ts ... It was ulfric iron claw.

But Il go with storm claw.
My wolf guard is lead by Conan...

 jhe90 wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
According to the first page, you're named after the high king of Skyrim.

Ts ... It was ulfric iron claw.

But Il go with storm claw.
My wolf guard is lead by Conan...

Vus ro Da.

Well. It's official. The founder of my Chapter is named Dave, which is funny considering I'm going for a Dwarven naming scheme for my guys (at least at the moment), and there will be apples of Khorne mentioned in most of my CSM fluff blurbs.

I used a Greek Titan/God naming scheme. Are there any Greek themed chapters?

TS do you play Black Templars at all?

So far for my CSM I have.

Lord Harkan Ironfist

Warpsmith Snurl

Aspiring Champion Thorgrim Stonehelm

Squads Aldrik, Burlok, and Thrax

What would a reasonable amount of CSM to bring?

I have 176 CSM in my Warband (a multiple of 8, Khorne will be pleased)

 War Kitten wrote:
I have 176 CSM in my Warband (a multiple of 8, Khorne will be pleased)

Ok, so I'll probably have around 150 not including command

should I include pilots in the 150?

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I have 176 CSM in my Warband (a multiple of 8, Khorne will be pleased)

Ok, so I'll probably have around 150 not including command

should I include pilots in the 150?

Not more than 2 companies worth

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I have 176 CSM in my Warband (a multiple of 8, Khorne will be pleased)

Ok, so I'll probably have around 150 not including command

should I include pilots in the 150?

Not more than 2 companies worth

A company is 100 right? If so, that'll be more than enough. Thanks TS

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I have 176 CSM in my Warband (a multiple of 8, Khorne will be pleased)

Ok, so I'll probably have around 150 not including command

should I include pilots in the 150?

Not more than 2 companies worth

A company is 100 right? If so, that'll be more than enough. Thanks TS

Its never enough when you have Heresy to purge

You are like BLack Templar/Grey Knight incarnate

I went for a multiple of 8 (after talking with TS). 176 is fluffy AND it gives me enough warriors to sustain some losses and keep fighting. If all else fails I elevate some neophytes that are on my ships to full brothers and reinforce myself

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
You are like BLack Templar/Grey Knight incarnate

Righteously so.

I don't think Malice has a special number so I'm going with 10.

To give them a sorta Alpha Legion feel every person in a squad has the same name... which also happens to be the squad name

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I don't think Malice has a special number so I'm going with 10.

To give them a sorta Alpha Legion feel every person in a squad has the same name... which also happens to be the squad name

Its 13, bud.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I don't think Malice has a special number so I'm going with 10.

To give them a sorta Alpha Legion feel every person in a squad has the same name... which also happens to be the squad name

Its 13, bud.

Oh... Should I do 10 or 13?

Hi. WE ARE FRANK!

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I don't think Malice has a special number so I'm going with 10.

To give them a sorta Alpha Legion feel every person in a squad has the same name... which also happens to be the squad name

Its 13, bud.

Oh... Should I do 10 or 13?

13, clearly

13 it is!

So I'll have 8 Tactical squads and 4 Terminator squads. That's 156 people.

Leaves me enough room for the pilots and command

You might want some Assault Marines. And Devastators.

 War Kitten wrote:
You might want some Assault Marines. And Devastators.

Are they mandatory?

No, but it does help to have heavy weapons and punching capability

 War Kitten wrote:
No, but it does help to have heavy weapons and punching capability

True... I'll think about it

Oh and TS, I looked at the Lexicanum and it says Malalice's sacred number is 11

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
No, but it does help to have heavy weapons and punching capability

True... I'll think about it

Oh and TS, I looked at the Lexicanum and it says Malalice's sacred number is 11

It is, why do you point it out?