I did a wee post on who my three fave alternative mini sites are, guess who made the cut

https://chazsexington.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/my-favourite-alternative-miniature-sites/

Keep up the great work!

Hm... I wonder if this mystery Bones item could be a piece of thematic terrain. That would be a pretty spectacular use of the Bones PVC.

Here you go, this should start to answer some questions. More images on the way
This should be added to the Kickstarter sometime in the second half of the campaign.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-3-the-search-for-mr-bones/comments

Okay.

OKAY.

OKAY.

Yes. Oh yes.

Bring it on!

Whoah. That looks like a Big Friggin' Gun.

I guess I might pledge for Bones 3 after all.





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Will there be some sort of spacey option for the gun, or will it just look like something out of a WWI alt. hist.?

Will you be releasing the crew at a later date in resin ?

Supergun and new 'Master of Ordnance in Cuirass' ???

Well, now I see why Faolan was complaining about rivets.

BOOOOOM!!!!!

Looks like my Praetorians may become a DK style Siege List in the future.

Be interesting to see how resin addons work with hard bones.

Will this be available outside of the Bones KS?

 vic wrote:
Hi Folks,
Just thought I should jump in here and clarify some speculation, Its very nice to see all this interest in Vic Minis

Jake and I have been invited to create a special project which will be a part of the current Reaper Bones III Kickstarter. This will be a special 'guest spot' for a Victoria Miniatures piece, and will appear approximately half way through the campaign.

I understand Bones is not everyone's cup of tea, especially some of the early pieces were not impressive. However they have gotten better with experience, and this piece is being specifically designed with Bones in mind, it will be cast in grey PVC, not the usual Bones white, and will be a big chunk of plastic specifically intended for this medium.

I assure you I have no intention (or the cash) at this point, to retool the entire range in PVC. This project is currently a one off, that will give me the experience of working on project for metal tooling, and will expose Vic Minis to a whole new audience. It will be a good learning exercise, and I look forward to hearing customer feedback. It gives Jake and I the chance to make a big plastic kit without the usual risk and expense and will enable us to offer if for an insanely cheap price if purchased as part of the KS. it will also be available after the KS from Vic MInis, and we have lots of resin add ons already in the works.

Its still a work in progress so I'll be posting some pics in the few days.
Cheers, V

PS: its not the Tank

The section in red explains it

That model looks like it would be completely useless for a steampunk RPG I am planning.... <=== Sarcasm.

Most especially for a Silence the Guns scenario.

(I'm asking myself... 'how many?', not 'if?'....)

I would love to see Reaper promoting more third party sculptors through Bones - and really want to see this experiment pay off for all concerned. (Reaper, Ms. Lamb, and us....)

The Auld Grump - for some reason I am thinking 'Hunter Green'....

Can't wait!

great news!

 vic wrote:

Here you go, this should start to answer some questions. More images on the way
This should be added to the Kickstarter sometime in the second half of the campaign.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-3-the-search-for-mr-bones/comments

Damn you, vic! After supporting Bones I and II, I decided I had enough of their figures for my needs. Now you go and give me a reason I HAVE to support Bones III. It's mean, that's what it is...

Yup. Gonna need a big gun!

Can't wait to see the full model.

Again, joining bones 3 for one reason...

lone dirty dog wrote:Will you be releasing the crew at a later date in resin ?

Good question. Not %100 sure yet. I would expect so.

Blacksails wrote:Will this be available outside of the Bones KS?

Yes, definitely though Vic Minis and possibly through Reaper stockists.

 vic wrote:

Here you go, this should start to answer some questions. More images on the way
This should be added to the Kickstarter sometime in the second half of the campaign.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-3-the-search-for-mr-bones/comments

Welp... I was hoping to eat every day in August, but It looks like I'll have to starve till the weekends in order to afford what's coming down the line.

Good news is that the add-on level is $1, so you can "just" buy this "miniature".

Still, you might want to save $20 for the metal 12-paint set. And another $20 for the other paint set. And $10 for the rider-mounted dragon. And maybe $10 for the mouslings. Core? What core?

 Lone Cat wrote:
Supergun and new 'Master of Ordnance in Cuirass' ???

I would be excited to see a Cuirass torso that goes well with other Vic minis. I tried to do my own coversion using the ones found in a War of Spanish Succession cavalry box and they ended up being too small :( (Though, I did get 12 cavalrymen for roughly the price I would have expected to pay for 12 torsos... so I really wish GW would make Rough Riders not suck.)

Judging by the back of the gun crew fellow, with a head swap he would go well into my Steel Legion. With 2 weeks to go in Bones III I hope we get monre information soon.

niceguyteddy wrote:
Judging by the back of the gun crew fellow, with a head swap he would go well into my Steel Legion. With 2 weeks to go in Bones III I hope we get monre information soon.

If only someone made gasmask headswaps..

Well the helmets are very similar to WW2 German airborne helmets. Or, the heads are easy enough to cast up.

@niceguyteddy - I was kidding bud.. there's like a million companies making those types of helmets/heads

 MLaw wrote:
@niceguyteddy - I was kidding bud.. there's like a million companies making those types of helmets/heads

none close enough to NOT! DKoK

There's no company that has a range of model large enough to cover all the DKoK range.

 Bobthehero wrote:
There's no company that has a range of model large enough to cover all the DKoK range.

Don't tempt me.

Still moving into the new place. No net and the computer isn't set up yet, but my mind and horrible doodling never stops!

Reaper Bones Project Preview no.2
Hi, I have frantically been working on the crew. There will be 3 Women and 3 Men, here's 2 of the ladies. More previews coming soon.

Oh yes! Definitly looking forward to seeing this appear!

And here I was thinking the Tannenberg Colonel was my favourite Vic miniature. Now I don't know, because those crew are amazing.

Damn they look great I so hope you do produce these in resin

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Damn they look great I so hope you do produce these in resin

I would love to see some riflemen and riflewomen in Bones.

Preview 3 now up

That's a large gun.

As large as any in WW1 and 2

Well, after pledging not to buy any more models... gonna have to find some money for bones 3 haha.

Damn you vic! I wish I could afford more resin from you!

*wibble*

That gun ain't fething around.

I have found my Solar Auxilia artillery support, the hunt for a tracked chassis has begun.

It'll make for some mighty fine Basilisks for my army.

I'll be in my bunk.

... And I've been slowly more-or-less scratch-building one of these ...

Heh - for some reason I was expecting more of a mortar, and less of a railroad gun.

It would work great for a silence the guns scenario - one of my favorite 3rd edition WH40K games was actually two interconnected battles spread across two tables - with one table being the main battle, and the other being Ravenwing against the infantry support for the guns - which were firing onto the other table.

The Auld Grump

 vic wrote:
Preview 3 now up

Very interesting I wonder what it could be. The large pipe implies a water filtration system (essential in hostile territory) or perhaps some sort of portable oil rig.

Or maybe it goes up to become a watch tower or communications link. It could also be a smoke stack for some sort of field power plant, which would also explain the round elements on the bottom.

Whatever the case may be I'll defintiely be watching.

my only fear is with the bones material. I hope the barel dosn't bend down

let's see the big dragons and terrain are $10-15 dollars, this will have 4 crew so are we looking at $20 through the KS and $50.00 at retail?

Gamingdog wrote:
my only fear is with the bones material. I hope the barel dosn't bend down

let's see the big dragons and terrain are $10-15 dollars, this will have 4 crew so are we looking at $20 through the KS and $50.00 at retail?

It's not the bones PVC used on the regular models. It's "rigid bonesium" which is the material the bases are made of.

 MLaw wrote:

Gamingdog wrote:
my only fear is with the bones material. I hope the barel dosn't bend down

let's see the big dragons and terrain are $10-15 dollars, this will have 4 crew so are we looking at $20 through the KS and $50.00 at retail?

It's not the bones PVC used on the regular models. It's "rigid bonesium" which is the material the bases are made of.

I'm guessing the same material as the storage crates and Wyrmgear's wings.

In other words, pretty good stuff.

I've never dealt with either of Bones materials.

If I enjoy GW plastic, FW resin, and obviously Vic's resin, will I therefore enjoy working with this material?

 Polonius wrote:

 MLaw wrote:

Gamingdog wrote:
my only fear is with the bones material. I hope the barel dosn't bend down

let's see the big dragons and terrain are $10-15 dollars, this will have 4 crew so are we looking at $20 through the KS and $50.00 at retail?

It's not the bones PVC used on the regular models. It's "rigid bonesium" which is the material the bases are made of.

I'm guessing the same material as the storage crates and Wyrmgear's wings.

In other words, pretty good stuff.

I have the shipping crates and they're very rigid, like high impact plastic (the stuff GW uses) not soft at all.

excellent, So how would you use this in a game of 40k? would you count it as a basilisk or something else?

As is you could use it as an Earthshaker emplacement, which has rules in one of the Forge World books.

Depending on the overall model when it is unveiled, I may convert it into a proper self-propelled gun myself.

DKOK have a Heavy Mortar as well but this is definitely closer to an Earthshaker Emplacement.. it's freakin massive.

Yeah that gun has got me pledging on bones by itself, I sort of hope the possible 'conversion kit' mentioned might throw in a variant with a shorter barrel. Maybe something named after one of the three gorgon sisters for example.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 vic wrote:
Preview 3 now up

Very interesting I wonder what it could be. The large pipe implies a water filtration system (essential in hostile territory) or perhaps some sort of portable oil rig.

Or maybe it goes up to become a watch tower or communications link. It could also be a smoke stack for some sort of field power plant, which would also explain the round elements on the bottom.

Whatever the case may be I'll defintiely be watching.

nawww... you have it totally wrong... it is just a mere , albeit big telescope... romantic star watching brought to the next level...

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 vic wrote:
Preview 3 now up

Spoiler:

Very interesting I wonder what it could be. The large pipe implies a water filtration system (essential in hostile territory) or perhaps some sort of portable oil rig.

Or maybe it goes up to become a watch tower or communications link. It could also be a smoke stack for some sort of field power plant, which would also explain the round elements on the bottom.

Whatever the case may be I'll defintiely be watching.

nawww... you have it totally wrong... it is just a mere , albeit big telescope... romantic star watching brought to the next level...

You might be on to something there vik


you know I do see the resemblance.

I'll take 3 please!

There could be thoughts for a shorter barrel or tracks. Then again I could just be teasing you.

Kid Kyoto you make me laugh! All I could think of is the scene from Airplane where the guy says "What do you make of this?" and the other dude starts in with "oh a doily, or a hat, maybe a pteradactyl"

XD <====<<<. Me laughing at your post!

 Viktor von Domm wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Very interesting I wonder what it could be. The large pipe implies a water filtration system (essential in hostile territory) or perhaps some sort of portable oil rig.

Or maybe it goes up to become a watch tower or communications link. It could also be a smoke stack for some sort of field power plant, which would also explain the round elements on the bottom.

Whatever the case may be I'll defintiely be watching.

nawww... you have it totally wrong... it is just a mere , albeit big telescope... romantic star watching brought to the next level...

I assumed it was some sort of a crane to lift the shells, like the one on the back of the bombard that FW does:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Warhammer-40000/Imperial_Guard/Astra_Militarum_Tanks/IMPERIAL-BOMBARD.html

4th and probably last preview, should go live on the KS by the end of the week. Just finalizing the name. I'm liking "M22bfg 'Sledgehammer'.
Suggestion welcome.
[img]

Fat Frieda...

Faolan's Sledgehammer?

Any one know the Russian word for Victory or maybe Death?

Google translate makes the first as "Pobeda", and the second, "smert"

Big Ivan doesn't sound bad either...

Big Bertha

Sledgehammer has a nice ring to it. A future short-barrelled version could always be called the "Doorknocker" when it happens.

How about just Fat Lady.
I guess the follow up short barreled door knocker named Little Girl doesn't work as well

BFG 9001



Avoids copyright infringement and invokes a meme. Win!

 bubber wrote:
Big Bertha

Gottes Faust - Literally "God's Fist"

"Little Gretal" has a nice irony to it as well...

My favorite paintball gun is called Big Bertha, she's 15 pounds fully loaded.

"little henry" a light siege gun, I picture this gun to be in a family of guns with each getting progressivly larger.

Seismic Cannon

Seismite Hammer

Meteor Hammer

Moon Scraper

Crater Maker

The Compostor

Pie Thrower

The 'Whistler'


Oh its late for me lack of sleep cant think much better but the model looks awesome anyway cute crew too ;-)

Stormblast Combustible Sigmarannon.

Sigmar's Trouserhammer

Big Boner, surely?

I'll get my coat...

 bubber wrote:
Big Bertha

Not enough wheels.




She does look like something that would be rolled out from the Krupp factories though.... (The other Bertha.)

The Auld Grump

It's clearly

Gunner McShooty O'Gunn, the pride of the Regiment

Faolan's Wrath.

Devious Diesel.

Long Tom

The Emperor's Long Hard Lance

The Last Word

Long Johnson.

Overcompensating Firepower.

Big Stick

Impending Tinnitus

M 207 - "Divine Wrath"
- "Annihilator"

or, since Vic and Faolan hail from there

-M 207 "Mathilda"

The righteous word.
The cleansing hammer.
The voice of the imperium.
The wrath of the true
The implacable wrath.
The bones of the Victorious

land leveller

Bob

The Reaper.

The Priapus Cannon or the 1NNU-3ND0 Cannon.

Krieg Kudgel Mark 6

The Gun.

No, not That Gun.

Call it a Bombastic Bonnie or Burly Bonnie. "It's all over when this fat lady sings."

Let's call her:

Brumhilda

How about Boomhilde?

 Smitty wrote:
How about Boomhilde?

Boomhauer

 Desubot wrote:

 Smitty wrote:
How about Boomhilde?

Boomhauer

Nah, he's the forward observer.

"DagummantellyouhwhatmansummademderechaosboysareallovertherelikebingbangboompowpowpowandweneedsummathateeeeeeeeeeeeePOW! Dagumraininfiredowntellyouwhat" *sips beer*

nudibranch wrote:
The Priapus Cannon or the 1NNU-3ND0 Cannon.

Wargaming Marital Aid?


The Hair Dryer.


Or we could go all Iain Banks and name it something like Politics by Other Means or the Last Word.

Skullpuncher of the Sigmemperor.

Unprocessed Terrain Piece.


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Display Case Ballast.

Skyhammer.

Reaper's Fist.

Thunderstrike.

Final Judgement.

Wrath of Heaven.

In the German Tradition: Field Mouse (or Feldmaus).

In the GW tradition: The Gun-Cannon of Gunnering Cannonades with Gunner and Cannoneer.

Oktober fest delivery system

Kriemhilde

Sound system

The Cricket! (watch MIB)

I don't see it on the kickstarter page, but I'll pledge just to be sure I get a crack at it.

The Compensator

 kestral wrote:
I don't see it on the kickstarter page, but I'll pledge just to be sure I get a crack at it.

It is not up yet, but if you go in on the campaign for $1 you will be able to add this when it comes up. It should be up by the end of the week.

Erectile Destruction!


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The name for the big gun that is. People may log in and wonder, What the????

The Overlord

Hell-hammer

Mjollnir

Lucifer (or Lucy)

Tim

last repartee

Ok I am thinking of backing this to see how it actually turns out in this material, any idea what the cost will be for this model ?

Angry Ethel

Her Majesty's Displeasednes

 vic wrote:

It is not up yet, but if you go in on the campaign for $1 you will be able to add this when it comes up. It should be up by the end of the week.

Whoa whoa whoa...I can get this thing for $1?

 Blacksails wrote:

 vic wrote:

It is not up yet, but if you go in on the campaign for $1 you will be able to add this when it comes up. It should be up by the end of the week.

Whoa whoa whoa...I can get this thing for $1?

If you only want to purchase the artillery piece and crew then you select the $1 or more pledge. You will have pay whatever Reaper reveals the price to be though. If you select the $100 or more pledge then you will get all the miniatures in the core set plus any optional miniatures you pay for.

Oh, that makes more sense.

I'm pretty new to this KS thing. I've only backed MEdge and Mod Cubes, which were both pretty straightforward.

 lone dirty dog wrote:
Ok I am thinking of backing this to see how it actually turns out in this material, any idea what the cost will be for this model ?

No info yet, but no doubt someone will post when they know!

You can pledge at the $1 level for the updates, of course. AFAIK, The $1 goes towards your purchase, so pledge $15 or something so we can hit the current goal sooner!

Anyone wanna guess how much the models will cost?

The other smaller arty is just shy of $20 depending the on the gun or if you go for the all in option.

Based on that and the size of this gun (is the crew included?) I wouldn't be surprised for somewhere in the $50 range, which I'd be happy to pay if its the same quality the rest of the range is.

God's Handshake

How about Victoria for a name?

Victor if you want to be more... phallic about it.

The Auld Grump, or Viktor might work....

Victor Victoria?

 Blacksails wrote:
Oh, that makes more sense.

I'm pretty new to this KS thing. I've only backed MEdge and Mod Cubes, which were both pretty straightforward.

I strongly suggest this KS. I went near all-in for the second one and after I got the product I was very sad that I didn't get the first. The paint options are super cheap and great, the minis are great. I use them as test models for my armies or for when I just want to paint something in particular.

This round I'm really really excited about those corsairs. I love Starcraft, the previous KS had two minis that looked kinda like hydralisks. It's a shame the owners of the IP don't see the value in making SC minis.

Also for someone used to IG troops, those dragons are huge.

Victoria Regina (the victorious queen) But I really like the 1NNU-3ND0 too.

I don't want to derail this thread, but could we lay off the penis jokes? They are just stupid.

Tydil wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
Oh, that makes more sense.

I'm pretty new to this KS thing. I've only backed MEdge and Mod Cubes, which were both pretty straightforward.

I strongly suggest this KS. I went near all-in for the second one and after I got the product I was very sad that I didn't get the first. The paint options are super cheap and great, the minis are great. I use them as test models for my armies or for when I just want to paint something in particular.

This round I'm really really excited about those corsairs. I love Starcraft, the previous KS had two minis that looked kinda like hydralisks. It's a shame the owners of the IP don't see the value in making SC minis.

Also for someone used to IG troops, those dragons are huge.

I looked through it all, and honestly, there isn't much there I'm interested in. Its not like I hate fantasy or anything, but I've already got a back log of minis I need to assemble and paint for a game I'm actually playing occasionally, and I just can't justify buying more minis I may never use, let alone even paint.

Its great value though, if that's what you're looking for, absolutely. The sculpts are great too. Just not up my alley. I want that fething gun though.

DarkTraveler777 wrote:I don't want to derail this thread, but could we lay off the penis jokes? They are just stupid.

Yeah, way too much dicking around in here.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I don't want to derail this thread, but could we lay off the penis jokes? They are just stupid.

I think I just found the title of my memoirs.

But seriously.. some of them are kind of hard to swallow.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I don't want to derail this thread, but could we lay off the penis jokes? They are just stupid.

Yeah, that would be a good idea.

I'm just hoping Vic picks a winner soon, so this thread can go back to having actual news/previews in it...

 Blacksails wrote:
The other smaller arty is just shy of $20 depending the on the gun or if you go for the all in option.

Based on that and the size of this gun (is the crew included?) I wouldn't be surprised for somewhere in the $50 range, which I'd be happy to pay if its the same quality the rest of the range is.

Maybe retail, but I would estimate the addon price to be around $20-25. Dragons Don't Share was HUGE and only $35.

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
The other smaller arty is just shy of $20 depending the on the gun or if you go for the all in option.

Based on that and the size of this gun (is the crew included?) I wouldn't be surprised for somewhere in the $50 range, which I'd be happy to pay if its the same quality the rest of the range is.

Maybe retail, but I would estimate the addon price to be around $20-25. Dragons Don't Share was HUGE and only $35.

Hmmm, good point.

I'm happy either way. The revealed price will determine how large my yet to be formed artillery section will be.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I don't want to derail this thread, but could we lay off the penis jokes? They are just stupid.

I agree the constant penis jokes have gone on much too long and make this thread too hard to read.

At least that's what she said.

 Blacksails wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:
The other smaller arty is just shy of $20 depending the on the gun or if you go for the all in option.

Based on that and the size of this gun (is the crew included?) I wouldn't be surprised for somewhere in the $50 range, which I'd be happy to pay if its the same quality the rest of the range is.

Maybe retail, but I would estimate the addon price to be around $20-25. Dragons Don't Share was HUGE and only $35.

Hmmm, good point.

I'm happy either way. The revealed price will determine how large my yet to be formed artillery section will be.

It's funny. I keep telling the people in the KS chat that wargamers are going to eat the artillery up. I don't think they realize that 40k players will likely buy 3-10 (10 being the max the KS system will allow).
I already have plans for wreckage markers, a factory of them (like in Sherlock Holmes, Game of Shadows), etc etc.. It's about to get stupid up in this place..

Thanks for all the awesome and quite entertaining ideas.
Finished finalizing the graphics with Reaper today.
Not long now at all

Guess it's too late to get the Big Boner in for a name?

Is this going onto the current bones kickstater? Or a new one?

 Phobos wrote:
Is this going onto the current bones kickstater? Or a new one?

Current.

The Big Jim.

And make sure to paint it black.


(south park reference)

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
I don't want to derail this thread, but could we lay off the penis jokes? They are just stupid.

I agree the constant penis jokes have gone on much too long and make this thread too hard to read.

At least that's what she said.

From a MOD no less. Keep it classy Dakka!

Honestly guys, a manufacturer asked for user input on naming a pretty cool looking piece of gaming kit and the thread devolves into a series of juvenile penis jokes. As if war gaming doesn't have enough of a stigma of being a hyper-masculine boys club you guys can't even offer up a name for an artillery piece without referring to your most abused appendage.

 Alpharius wrote:
I'm just hoping Vic picks a winner soon, so this thread can go back to having actual news/previews in it...

Agreed!

Double post

Just drop it, move on already.

 BrookM wrote:
Just drop it, move on already.

that's what I told my ex when she wouldn't stop abusing my appendage.

Excuse me as I crack open a window, it's getting a bit stuffy in here...

 MLaw wrote:
Impending Tinnitus

Hahahahahahaha!

Teeth Rattler.

 kronk wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
Impending Tinnitus

Hahahahahahaha!

Teeth Rattler.

I've been watching a lot of Archer and Justified lately.. tinnitus comes up quite a bit

Tetragrammaton - The Name of God. (The word is not the Name itself - the word just means 'Four Letters'.)

The Auld Grump - perhaps to convoluted a name for a big arse cannon....

Boom.

Sledgehammer! Yes. Yay! feth you witches!

Sweet in for 2.

Not bad for medium ordnance.

Before I feth this up, I need to go in at the $1 pledge level, then manage my pledge up to $30 or $30 increments for each one I want, correct? Then after the KS, I confirm that I want 56 M22 BFGs.

Seriously though, that looks amazing, and the price is just perfect. Well done to both Vic and Jake. Beautiful model and crew.

I'm in for a battery myself.

 BrookM wrote:
I'm in for a battery myself.

I'm in for 1 right now, but I have to run by the additional spending with Mrs. Blacksails. I'd like to know if this is the price we'll see in store after the KS before I go balls out right now.

Don't count on it.

 BrookM wrote:
Don't count on it.

Yeah, I'm certainly not, which is why picking up 3 now seems like the better deal. Hopefully the wife agrees.

Well I am going to have to convince the worse half I need 3 of these, even though I have been selling all my wargaming stuff haha.

Just don't tell her I said worse half.

 Blacksails wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I'm in for a battery myself.

I'm in for 1 right now, but I have to run by the additional spending with Mrs. Blacksails. I'd like to know if this is the price we'll see in store after the KS before I go balls out right now.

The big stuff is generally half the retail cost, with some pieces coming in at different discount levels depending on production costs.

given the size and complexity of the model, and that it's $30 even at KS, I'm guessing it'll retail for $60-70. Dragon's Don't Share was $35 in the Bones II Kickstarter, and retails for $75.

Any licensing agreement could add some cash to the final retail price as well.

I have no idea where to announce this gun on lead-adventurers.de : http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?action=forum

Just note- you can only receive 10 per account. You'll have to make another account for every 10 you order essentially.

I doubt anyone would actually do that, but I think it bears repeating.

ced1106 wrote:
I have no idea where to announce this gun on lead-adventurers.de : http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?action=forum

Probably 'Future Wars', where 40K falls.

 Polonius wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I'm in for a battery myself.

I'm in for 1 right now, but I have to run by the additional spending with Mrs. Blacksails. I'd like to know if this is the price we'll see in store after the KS before I go balls out right now.

The big stuff is generally half the retail cost, with some pieces coming in at different discount levels depending on production costs.

given the size and complexity of the model, and that it's $30 even at KS, I'm guessing it'll retail for $60-70. Dragon's Don't Share was $35 in the Bones II Kickstarter, and retails for $75.

Any licensing agreement could add some cash to the final retail price as well.

Yes that is correct, it will be at least double the KS price. Possibly $70. TBC.
Cheers, V

 vic wrote:

Yes that is correct, it will be at least double the KS price. Possibly $70. TBC.
Cheers, V

Thanks for the clarification. Still a reasonable price for all that material and quality. Though I'm really pushed to get the three I want now...

 vic wrote:

 Polonius wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
I'm in for a battery myself.

I'm in for 1 right now, but I have to run by the additional spending with Mrs. Blacksails. I'd like to know if this is the price we'll see in store after the KS before I go balls out right now.

The big stuff is generally half the retail cost, with some pieces coming in at different discount levels depending on production costs.

given the size and complexity of the model, and that it's $30 even at KS, I'm guessing it'll retail for $60-70. Dragon's Don't Share was $35 in the Bones II Kickstarter, and retails for $75.

Any licensing agreement could add some cash to the final retail price as well.

Yes that is correct, it will be at least double the KS price. Possibly $70. TBC.
Cheers, V

Any chance of a shout-out on your FB page to let everyone there know it's been revealed on KS?

 Blacksails wrote:
Before I feth this up, I need to go in at the $1 pledge level, then manage my pledge up to $30 or $30 increments for each one I want, correct? Then after the KS, I confirm that I want 56 M22 BFGs.

Seriously though, that looks amazing, and the price is just perfect. Well done to both Vic and Jake. Beautiful model and crew.

Thanks
I believe that is correct. You go in for $1 and then add whatever you want. There is lots of info about it on the KS page.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-3-the-search-for-mr-bones/description

Sweet looking piece, madam. The crew, of course, steal the show.

vic, are the crew single piece models?

Lovely model - but being that large, I wonder how much they'll add to the shipping costs? For us overseas types, it might be cheaper or around the same price to order them from Reaper at full RRP with free shipping over $100.

$30???

Crikey, that's a bit good.

 vic wrote:

Thanks
I believe that is correct. You go in for $1 and then add whatever you want. There is lots of info about it on the KS page.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-3-the-search-for-mr-bones/description

Yeah, its a little confusing, but I think I've got it figured out with the Reaper calculator.

I can't commend you and Jake enough for this. Its a stunning model with excellent crew members, all at an incredibly price. Hell, the crew members even look Tannenburg-ish enough to blend right in to my army.


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 Azazelx wrote:
Lovely model - but being that large, I wonder how much they'll add to the shipping costs? For us overseas types, it might be cheaper or around the same price to order them from Reaper at full RRP with free shipping over $100.

My Reaper calculator thing put an additional almost $8 on top of the kit for one.

So...not a small amount.

Are there other pics / renders of the gun and crew, or just the Reaper stretch goal / add-on image?

 Blacksails wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
Lovely model - but being that large, I wonder how much they'll add to the shipping costs? For us overseas types, it might be cheaper or around the same price to order them from Reaper at full RRP with free shipping over $100.

My Reaper calculator thing put an additional almost $8 on top of the kit for one.

So...not a small amount.

Retail is usually double the addon price. So ~$60 vs $38. Of course Vic may sell the crew separately bringing the price down. Of course, this is the first collaborative Bones miniature, so this may actually be a lot closer to retail.

 Blacksails wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
Lovely model - but being that large, I wonder how much they'll add to the shipping costs? For us overseas types, it might be cheaper or around the same price to order them from Reaper at full RRP with free shipping over $100.

My Reaper calculator thing put an additional almost $8 on top of the kit for one.
So...not a small amount.

You're in Canada - right next door. I was thinking more of Europeans and Aussies. I think it'll be more than $8 extra for us.

It makes not as much of a difference as most of us would think, though. Canada is overseas in American minds. As in: "Most of our imports come from overseas."

@Azazalx
They have a very accurate pledge calculator that estimates shipping. They mentioned being within a couple of cents of error last campaign.

https://ks.reapermini.com/bones3/login

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
Lovely model - but being that large, I wonder how much they'll add to the shipping costs? For us overseas types, it might be cheaper or around the same price to order them from Reaper at full RRP with free shipping over $100.

My Reaper calculator thing put an additional almost $8 on top of the kit for one.

So...not a small amount.

Retail is usually double the addon price. So ~$60 vs $38. Of course Vic may sell the crew separately bringing the price down. Of course, this is the first collaborative Bones miniature, so this may actually be a lot closer to retail.

A few posts back Vic said likely $70+ for the retail price..

 MLaw wrote:

 Sinful Hero wrote:

 Blacksails wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
Lovely model - but being that large, I wonder how much they'll add to the shipping costs? For us overseas types, it might be cheaper or around the same price to order them from Reaper at full RRP with free shipping over $100.

My Reaper calculator thing put an additional almost $8 on top of the kit for one.

So...not a small amount.

Retail is usually double the addon price. So ~$60 vs $38. Of course Vic may sell the crew separately bringing the price down. Of course, this is the first collaborative Bones miniature, so this may actually be a lot closer to retail.

A few posts back Vic said likely $70+ for the retail price..

You are correct.
Kickstarter is an even better deal than my estimation.

Vic is in the KS chat right now doing live QA about the piece.

Here's my questions and her answers!
Thanks for the great feedback, I'll try to answer some.
How far can the main cannon traverse? It looks like it has a fairly limited arc.
I'm not 100% sure, I'd have to chack with Jake. I think it goes from horizontal to about 45 degrees.
Are there plans for a tractor for it?
Yes
Will the bonesium crewmembers be multipart?
Probably some will have separate arms for casting.
Any word on the types of accessories that will be available post Kickstarter?
Crawler tracks, blast shield, limber already nearly done.

 Azazelx wrote:
Lovely model - but being that large, I wonder how much they'll add to the shipping costs? For us overseas types, it might be cheaper or around the same price to order them from Reaper at full RRP with free shipping over $100.

I'm pledging for three guns and a pack of not-StarCrap marines, total shipping: $18.35 for me!

Impressive miniatures.. as usual

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Without playing with the model, you should get about 45 or so degrees of positive vertical traverse. There's no horizontal traverse.

Limber is done , crawler tracks were done first (then V asked for wheels as well). Gun shield is in the cards once I get the computer fixed. (Also waiting on internet hookup so I can flip pictures to V).

There might be a shorter barrel, larger bore siege mortar based on it as well as the shells for it available later.

Hnnnngggg...

Crawler tracks would just be too perfect.

I'm throwing money at the screen, but nothing is happening.

 faolan wrote:
... vertical traverse....

Elevation.

Also: is their any representation of recoil? Doesn't look like the recuperator would work.

Still. Pretty Awesome.

It has no recoil because it fires magical space shells that are made Norecoilium.

Problem solved.

You are right, elevation. I am just dead exhausted this week.

Also the recuperator should work, I based that off a real workd prototype.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
It makes not as much of a difference as most of us would think, though. Canada is overseas in American minds. As in: "Most of our imports come from overseas."

Across Kelso's sea of flowers?

The Auld Grump - wait... isn't Canada part of America?


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 Dr Mathias wrote:

ced1106 wrote:
I have no idea where to announce this gun on lead-adventurers.de : http://www.lead-adventure.de/index.php?action=forum

Probably 'Future Wars', where 40K falls.

Or VSF - it fits right in with steampunk.

Or Weird Wars, since it would look at home in WWI games as well.

But I will be using it for steampunk.

The Auld Grump


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 faolan wrote:
There might be a shorter barrel, larger bore siege mortar based on it as well as the shells for it available later.

Ooooohhhh!

Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europe vincendarum.

The Auld Grump

 faolan wrote:
You are right, elevation. I am just dead exhausted this week.

Also the recuperator should work, I based that off a real workd prototype.

Ah. Righto. Soviet B-4. You missed the step in front of the recuperator brace which would allow for the barrel to recoil through the housing.




Not that many customers will give a rat's.

Wait, I've seen that picture before. Didn't Jake post that some few dozen pages ago about a project you were working on?

Is that what the crawler tracks will look like?

I can't take much more awesome.

kaboom!!!!

Stop. I can only get so aroused.

That's not how the line goes...

 Bobthehero wrote:
That's not how the line goes...

I'm aware, but the mods have a hard-on for enforcing a no penis joke policy in here.

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Dr Mathias wrote:


Probably 'Future Wars', where 40K falls.

Or VSF - it fits right in with steampunk.

Or Weird Wars, since it would look at home in WWI games as well.

I agree it would be great for other genres, I may snag one for my WeirdWarsWW1 force. LAF doesn't like crossposting though and Future Wars gets the most traffic.

 Dr Mathias wrote:

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 Dr Mathias wrote:


Probably 'Future Wars', where 40K falls.

Or VSF - it fits right in with steampunk.

Or Weird Wars, since it would look at home in WWI games as well.

I agree it would be great for other genres, I may snag one for my WeirdWarsWW1 force. LAF doesn't like crossposting though and Future Wars gets the most traffic.

Though, to be honest, 'Future' is not the term that first leaps to my mind, when looking at the Sledgehammer.

Much more of a Victorian or WWI bit of artillery.

The Auld Grump

Do we have any confirmation as to whether the cannon will be in the traditional bones material or the harder stuff that the shipping containers were made of. The Harder plastic would probably fbe fine, but if this barrel...

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Spoiler:

...is going to be made of the same bones that the "Dragons Don't Share" terrain was, then I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, and neither should anyone else. The softer material simply isn't suited for a long, strait non-organic shape like this.

Here's to hoping that troopers eventually get made in Bones though!

It's not. It'll be the same material as the clockwork dragon's wings, and the shipping crate.

Nice vid! 203mm cannon used in direct fire mode for urban fighting. Presumably Berlin 1945...

T

 Mousemuffins wrote:
kaboom!!!!

203mm cannon used in direct fire mode

That statement is frightening *without* the fragment on a neverending loop right beneath it.

Man look at the shockwave.

It goes all the way up to the walls.

 Mousemuffins wrote:

 faolan wrote:
... vertical traverse....

Elevation.

Also: is their any representation of recoil? Doesn't look like the recuperator would work.

Still. Pretty Awesome.

I think Jake can answer that, he has usually taken lots practical considerations into his designs.

What is the deal with the add-ons? If I wanted this thing with caterpillar tracks, will I need to wait till the retail release? With caterpillar tracks my Valhallans would have some perfect new artillery...
Also, will they be available separately? Wondering if I should get a couple now, then upgrade them with tracks later, as that would probably still work out more cost effective with the awesome KS prices. Give me some wheels left over to play with too.

 Eilif wrote:
Do we have any confirmation as to whether the cannon will be in the traditional bones material or the harder stuff that the shipping containers were made of. The Harder plastic would probably fbe fine, but if this barrel...

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Spoiler:

...is going to be made of the same bones that the "Dragons Don't Share" terrain was, then I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, and neither should anyone else. The softer material simply isn't suited for a long, strait non-organic shape like this.

Here's to hoping that troopers eventually get made in Bones though!

We have already started looking at avoiding any 'embarrassing' barrel issues. The barrel at least will be hard plastic and will probably plug into the body of the gun (which will make it easy to remove for transport). The whole gun will come in several parts and these will be as hard as possible. There is no way I want droopy gun photos out there.

I am also interested to know if the treads will be a later add on.

 Blacksails wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
That's not how the line goes...

I'm aware, but the mods have a hard-on for enforcing a no penis joke policy in here.

<3

Javin wrote:
I am also interested to know if the treads will be a later add on.

Yes, we are looking at doing them as a resin add on, as well as a blast shield and some other accessories.

 Bolognesus wrote:

203mm cannon used in direct fire mode

That statement is frightening *without* the fragment on a neverending loop right beneath it.

Anyone with military experience should understand how terrifying that would be if one were on the receiving end of the fire. Bug out time...

T

 Blacksails wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:
That's not how the line goes...

I'm aware, but the mods have a hard-on for enforcing a no penis joke policy in here.

Indeed, we come down hard on penis jokes that continue too long and lay it on too thick.

Woot! reached the unlock goal. Thanks everyone
smile emoticon
Here's a new pic of the crew. I am already looking at them and thinking of kit-bash ideas using other Vic Minis bits to make them into a squad....

Sometimes I love the fact that I have the consumer resistance is equal to the breaking strain of a soggy Kit-Kat.

Three Sledgehammers ordered

Not bad for US$107.72. Oct 2016 will seem like a long time though.

Who knows? hint hint There may even be female pith helmet heads by then for a crew head swap.

I'm glad they're looking at the barrel material. Last thing anyone wants is a loaded gun with a limp shaft.

This is probably a better place to ask then the massive response thread on KS...

I understand that the crew will be made of the softer Bones material (some kind of PVC or Vinyl). The harder parts would be Styrene, which I applaud for a model intended with 40k and it's ilk. According to Reaper it's the same material as their bases, they haven't tested it with plastic glue though (I'll test it with the bases and a piece of GW sprue).

What I want to know is whether the whole gun carriage will be the hard styrene material or just parts. This for me is the difference between buying lots and buying none...

I intended to scratchbuild something like that (with the assistance of a cutting plotter) in plastic that can be glued with plastic glue (I'm quite allergic to super glue). But at $30 a piece, that's a no brainer to buy instead of build (if the material is right).

The reason why I'm 'harping' on the material used is because: I made myself a promise long ago, my 40k/WFB would be all (styrene) plastic with the exception of my Eldar and Titans. (the gun crew would not be used with 40k)

It's the same plastic as the dumpster and cargo crate. Plastic glue works.

Ok I crumbled and went in for 2 sets just to see what this bones is like and to get crew, I have some artillery that needs crewing up so for $ 30 a set and postage it was actually quite cheap really.


Plus the posing of the crew is awesome love the fact they have some interesting equipment added.

Could not pass this up.
In for one.

First kickstarter I ever backed.

Well technically my brother backed it as I don't have a credit card.

 vic wrote:

 Eilif wrote:
Do we have any confirmation as to whether the cannon will be in the traditional bones material or the harder stuff that the shipping containers were made of. The Harder plastic would probably fbe fine, but if this barrel...

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:

Spoiler:

...is going to be made of the same bones that the "Dragons Don't Share" terrain was, then I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, and neither should anyone else. The softer material simply isn't suited for a long, strait non-organic shape like this.

Here's to hoping that troopers eventually get made in Bones though!

We have already started looking at avoiding any 'embarrassing' barrel issues. The barrel at least will be hard plastic and will probably plug into the body of the gun (which will make it easy to remove for transport). The whole gun will come in several parts and these will be as hard as possible. There is no way I want droopy gun photos out there.

I swear, this has never happened to me before.

The Auld Grump

Hi folks, big thanks to everyone who is backing
Here is another angle on the Cannon.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1513061270/reaper-miniatures-bones-3-the-search-for-mr-bones/description

So Many lovely rivets.

I'm going ot wait and buy direct. I've had too many bad experiences with the Bones line in general, and being a Sci Fi mini it seems out of place with the mostly fantasy Bones 3 kickstarter.

I pledged for 3. Can't wait to see them. I am going to add them to my Victorian Guard, and paint the crew up in a navy color scheme.

To the bloke on the last page in regards to glues - there are different plastic glues for different types of plastics as well.

By this I mean that Plastruct beams and girders need a differentccement from the ones we use on our GW / Tamiya etc kits. From memory the one you use on those beams has a higher toulene or acetone content, or somesuch.

Thanks for the new angle. I didn't know the wheels were doubled up on each side. Nice touch. Love this thing.

 vic wrote:
Woot! reached the unlock goal. Thanks everyone
smile emoticon
Here's a new pic of the crew. I am already looking at them and thinking of kit-bash ideas using other Vic Minis bits to make them into a squad....

These are lovely - will they be coming out seperately but only after the KS?

I crumbled and decided to back this. It's only the second time in two years that I've backed a Kickstarter and I'm having some difficulty in trying to order the cannon. Do I have to wait for the survey to request exactly what I want?

Matakakea wrote:
I crumbled and decided to back this. It's only the second time in two years that I've backed a Kickstarter and I'm having some difficulty in trying to order the cannon. Do I have to wait for the survey to request exactly what I want?

Yes.

Just pledge for the "dollar" reward level with however much you want and after the campaign finishes you can complete the pledge manager and lock in everything you want.

You can also use the pledge calculator to work out what it's all going to cost you including shipping now as well.

Edit; wrong thread D:

From the Facebook:

Hi, I have been assembling the upcoming female Tannenburg squad. Here's a preview from the workbench.
Cheers, V

Still no Arcadian Fluff, but the female Tannenbegers look great!

*Heavy breathing*

Damn, that kickstarter sucked me right in. So many different things. After painting a zillion orks getting to paint something different every time sounds very interesting.

Matakakea wrote:
I crumbled and decided to back this. It's only the second time in two years that I've backed a Kickstarter and I'm having some difficulty in trying to order the cannon. Do I have to wait for the survey to request exactly what I want?


Yes.

Just pledge for the "dollar" reward level with however much you want and after the campaign finishes you can complete the pledge manager and lock in everything you want.

You can also use the pledge calculator to work out what it's all going to cost you including shipping now as well.

Thanks for that. I was finding it very difficult to track down instructions on the Kickstarter site. It didn't help that the pledge manager turned out to be down

I'd like to throw this out as a sort of wish list. More of a fill in the gaps of what you already offer list....


For all armies moving forward: Don't just do infantry, but also do heavy weapons troopers with arms firing not -heavy bolters/not-lascannons etc. Arms are really the only thing needed to be sculpted for those, as you have kneeling legs and the rest of the uniform can be made by using regular parts.

I'd also love to see tank commanders with tank helmets, for use in tanks and vehicles.

Female universal arms so I can stick the lasgun MK2's on them. ( Arcadian).

More officer bits/bodies with varied poses and weapon choices, and officer types ( not-commissar, not-psyker etc. These can be universal, fit in with any army).

You're own version of not-Kasrkin with universal arms.

General Hobbs wrote:
Female universal arms so I can stick the lasgun MK2's on them. ( Arcadian).

Those are already available:



http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/universal-rolled-sleeve-arms-female

Aren't there already female universal arms that can use the lasgun MKII?

There are three things that would complete my Guard army:

1) Flamethrowers. I have meltas, I have plasma, hell, I even have grenade launchers for some painting practice. I needs me some portable BBQs.

2) Prior to the BFG Sledgehammer, I would have killed for some sort of universal carrier or self-propelled arty piece. Now I might settle for the Sledgehammer when the tracks come out. Time will tell. Then again, a universal carrier/tracked SPG platform can also be used to represent other arty peices like the Wyvern, Hydra, or Manticore. Food for thought anyways. My army has always been more armoured anyways, so its the Matilda I want.

3) An APC/IFV that aesthetically ties in with the future Matilda.

I have my Colonel, junior officers, upcoming female Tannenburg, all the special weapons and modular heavy weapons I could ask for, and a dope ass tank in the future. On top of that, a giant arty piece. I'm pretty content with the completeness of Vic's line up.

 BrookM wrote:

General Hobbs wrote:
Female universal arms so I can stick the lasgun MK2's on them. ( Arcadian).

Those are already available:



http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/universal-rolled-sleeve-arms-female

Holy Cow! HOw did I miss those???????

La la la placing an order.....

Female Tannenburg!

With some female pith helmets my dream of a mixed Praetorian force will become a reality. Way to go vic!

Since I pulled my pledge, I'm just going to have to hope the accessories Victoria makes for this will also work on a GW basilisk.. since those are also readily available for $30 on ebay.

Right, I finally got myself properly registered on the Pledge manager, and put myself down for a cannon. By the time things are sorted out I may even be able to get another one (or two)

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:
Female Tannenburg!

With some female pith helmets my dream of a mixed Praetorian force will become a reality. Way to go vic!

Yes to female pith helmet heads, please!

General Hobbs wrote:


I'd like to throw this out as a sort of wish list. More of a fill in the gaps of what you already offer list....


For all armies moving forward: Don't just do infantry, but also do heavy weapons troopers with arms firing not -heavy bolters/not-lascannons etc. Arms are really the only thing needed to be sculpted for those, as you have kneeling legs and the rest of the uniform can be made by using regular parts.

I'd also love to see tank commanders with tank helmets, for use in tanks and vehicles.

Female universal arms so I can stick the lasgun MK2's on them. ( Arcadian).

More officer bits/bodies with varied poses and weapon choices, and officer types ( not-commissar, not-psyker etc. These can be universal, fit in with any army).

You're own version of not-Kasrkin with universal arms.

http://victoriaminiatures.highwire.com/product/heavy-weapon-crew-arms-1-1
There are heavy weapon arms available- they don't have firing triggers, but do have a remote control for firing a weapon.

There is a lot of options for making heavily armed troops in the vein of Kasrkin and Grenadiers available, but some backpacks with cables that reach the powerpacks of the already available lasweapons, or maybe some purpose sculpted weapons would be great for hotshot weapons.

Officer parts would be excellent. Tank commander pieces too. Mainly though, I want gasmasked versions of the existing heads that don't already have masks.

If we're wishlisting, I'd absolutely adore duster jacket torsos to pair with the already available Custodian heads for some kickass NCR Rangers

From Facebook:

Here is a preview of the one of the resin add on parts Jake has been designing. The resin tracks will be an upgrade kit available from Victoria Miniatures, once the Reaper Bones III Kickstarter ships.

^ So is this the same tracked artillery carriage the Soviets use in the Siege of Berlin?

Is this 'sledgehammer' gun serves the function of earthshaker or superior to Basilisk gun?

It looks like it will be twice the size of an Earthshaker cannon.

The Sledgehammer can be used as an Earthshaker artillery carriage, or with a different barrel, as a Medusa carriage.

Also, porting it over from the previous page:

From Facebook:

Here is a preview of the one of the resin add on parts Jake has been designing. The resin tracks will be an upgrade kit available from Victoria Miniatures, once the Reaper Bones III Kickstarter ships.

Heh, still thinking about mounting it on a flatcar.... (The Big Bertha had an 1/8 of a mile recoil....)

The Auld Grump

 MasterSlowPoke wrote:
It looks like it will be twice the size of an Earthshaker cannon.

Its 29cm from the rear of the carriage to the end of the barrel.

I wasn't planning on backing. Looked at it, liked the idea, but as I have some important things to save for, decided to be fiscally responsible. Then I saw this.



And now I've just pledged for two. Godammit. I thought I had better impulse control than that.

Are you stuck with female crew? Or is there a male crew to choose?

If I get this I will probably need a lot more crew, realistically this thing would have a lot of people crewing it. I think the Paris gun had around 80 crew, I imagine this would need 60-80 as well. Obviously this is too much but I feel like the mere 6 crew would probably die trying to crew this after 20 minutes. I think 20 would be a decent amount.

Third Reaper video has the Sledgehammer!

 Swastakowey wrote:
Are you stuck with female crew? Or is there a male crew to choose?

The crew is made up of three guys and three ghouls:

 BrookM wrote:

 Swastakowey wrote:
Are you stuck with female crew? Or is there a male crew to choose?

The crew is made up of three guys and three ghouls:

I see, so you can't just have male crew then I take it.

No, you get all six with each gun. You can always kitbash more dudes yourself with the bits already available through Vic's store, as you can see they're all made up of greatcoat legs, Victorian torsos, Victorian arms and use dress cap heads.

 BrookM wrote:
No, you get all six with each gun. You can always kitbash more dudes yourself with the bits already available through Vic's store, as you can see they're all made up of greatcoat legs, Victorian torsos, Victorian arms and use dress cap heads.

Yea might have to.

Cheers.

I'm just super glad we don't have Ammunition Numbers casually holding 45+ kilo shells like they're made of fairy floss.

vis:

There's no reason for it to have 15+ crew, or 80 crew, or any other massive number.

Basically, it's based off the B4 previously shown. Soviet B4s, which had a much less badass crane than this thing does (the real crane was a length of pipe with a pulley or three) had a crew of around 5.

@Mouse - I know, gods that annoys me about the DKK ones, beautiful sculpts ruined by stupidity.

Just returned from taking the dog to the beach for a few hours so she could run amok, and now while I wait for supper I'm going to work on some more super-sexy resin add-ons for it.

Since my physical modelling has been sidelined by me putting an Xacto blade into my finger until it hit bone yesterday, yeee-ouch.

Ketara wrote:I wasn't planning on backing. Looked at it, liked the idea, but as I have some important things to save for, decided to be fiscally responsible. Then I saw this.



And now I've just pledged for two. Godammit. I thought I had better impulse control than that.

Thanks so much to you and everyone else who has jumped in, really thrilled with the support.

faolan wrote:There's no reason for it to have 15+ crew, or 80 crew, or any other massive number.

Basically, it's based off the B4 previously shown. Soviet B4s, which had a much less badass crane than this thing does (the real crane was a length of pipe with a pulley or three) had a crew of around 5.

@Mouse - I know, gods that annoys me about the DKK ones, beautiful sculpts ruined by stupidity.

Just returned from taking the dog to the beach for a few hours so she could run amok, and now while I wait for supper I'm going to work on some more super-sexy resin add-ons for it.

Since my physical modelling has been sidelined by me putting an Xacto blade into my finger until it hit bone yesterday, yeee-ouch.

See, Jake, that's why you should stick to sculpting awesome digital stuff for me, its much safer.

 faolan wrote:
There's no reason for it to have 15+ crew, or 80 crew, or any other massive number.

Basically, it's based off the B4 previously shown. Soviet B4s, which had a much less badass crane than this thing does (the real crane was a length of pipe with a pulley or three) had a crew of around 5.

It actually had a crew minimum of 10 (Wikipedia tends to show minimum crew needed to simply fire and load it) and more than likely used more than 10 men to crew it when in actual warfare. The crew to move it, supply it and rotate shifts would vastly increase the number. The size of this gun is massive and in reality would have a lot men standing around it waiting to rotate or help pull it apart to move it to the next position etc.

For example the Japanese Battalion Gun had a crew of 5 (tiny gun) but that crew was bare minimum in a combat situation. I think 16 + (will have to dig up my books to confirm) men crewed them but only 5 (as shown on wikipedia) at one time was required to actually operate it. But the other men needed to replace/move the gun etc do not disappear, they have plenty of work to do with the gun during the firing too. The vickers machine gun for example only needed 2-3 to operate, but to function in warfare would have had near 10 men to use properly. But it is often listed as 3 crew (which is technically correct, but not really).

Ultimately it is down to taste. Yes you can display minimal crew but in my opinion having all the flurry of back up crew and men hauling the ammo around makes the gun look far more epic. I know I personally like the look of busy artillery, which from what I have heard is a very messy job in full conflict. Something I find a lot of models misrepresent. Thankfully there are options to do this, I just think 6 is not really enough for a model I assume is meant to be in active duty.

To be clear I love the model, just not a huge fan of the crew that's all.

While interesting and would look cool with a bunch of crew, as a game piece, having 6 crew looks busy enough, is within the realm of sanity, and fits just about any ruleset. Plus, for the snapshot of a battle most wargames represent, you wouldn't need to show the dozen other guys doing secondary tasks.

Six crew is a solid compromise.

Plus, Vic also sells parts for heavy weapon crews, so you can always use those kits to make a bunch of extra crew.

 Swastakowey wrote:

 faolan wrote:
To be clear I love the model, just not a huge fan of the crew that's all.

Well if you don't want the crew I will take them off your hands work a deal out of some kind