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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:17:47


Post by: Viktor von Domm


while i like jakes modular idea i had a thought cross my mind...why not make a coat of arms with a handy rivet gun? to show the tool for our craft? wouldn´t that make sense for a more general/all purpose look?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:20:39


Post by: dsteingass


I suppose League Members could adopt their own Personal Heraldry icon (or paint whatever they want) for the center of their Logo, why not? I'll leave it just a blank circle on the base, but I'm going to include the skull cutout loose, just because it is a font and I like it, and because I can

Scratchbuilding reasearch and heavy duty blade drop!

These magazines are for lunatics who look at blueprints of train cars and RR buildings scratchbuild them like I do! I have learned a LOT of techniques I apply to terrain from these mags!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:26:42


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh...with a new blade...the things you can do^^...

and the magazines...well prof...when will the lecture begin?^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:27:59


Post by: dsteingass


The Blade!


I will let you know, I am about to go move my research into the Throne Room


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:28:06


Post by: Rogue Wolves


- To a mister Dave

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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:29:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


I will let you know, I am about to go move my research into the Throne Room


LMAO...which is in a way quite fitting^^


good working mate...


and good night you fellas!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:29:59


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


*stares at rouge until he gives me my banner*



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:30:05


Post by: Rogue Wolves


see ya


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:32:18


Post by: dsteingass


Nite Vik! - I'll have stuff for your morning flakes!
Thank ye Rogue!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/10 23:33:34


Post by: Rogue Wolves


( imagion ork emote saluting ) and thank you for those nice logo's currently working on the one for my league buisness


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:06:55


Post by: mxwllmdr


CHeese grater? Oh, the building, you dork.....



I have used my wifes cricut to cut decent shapes into .020 PC but never tried anything thicker.....



Dave, Can you PM me some more specific address or information regarding the software hacke for that thing?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:09:31


Post by: dsteingass


Sure thing Max- will do a bit later!

This Deep Cutting housing just may be what I needed! This is set to 5/6 possible depth setting (6 deepest) next to 1mm plastic

(blu-tacked-on to facilitate taking the picture at the right angle)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:11:02


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


I think my brain forgot half of today... what the hell does that thing do Dave?





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:19:30


Post by: dsteingass


mxwllmdr wrote:
Dave, Can you PM me some more specific address or information regarding the software hacke for that thing?


WAIT A MINUTE!!!

You're a cop!!


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AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:I think my brain forgot half of today... what the hell does that thing do Dave?


It creates pages and pages of thread material!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:21:38


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Damnit woman that makes my head go sideways...


...DO NOT MAKE ME SET THE CATANIDS ON YOU!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:28:39


Post by: dsteingass


Jeesus H. Chumlee!
Someone get a damn dog around here!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:29:55


Post by: Rogue Wolves


childe.. did you ever see the great movie "Gangs of New York"??? cause its about to go down


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:31:18


Post by: SilverHayabusa


It really does!
I just wonder if its worth $300...


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I may get shot but I presonally hate cats..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:53:08


Post by: Rogue Wolves


dont worry you can hate cats, and i wont shoot you


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:53:40


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Hows this for Rogue Wolves personal =][_,= logo?

no waite it looks odd, need to fix it

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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 00:57:47


Post by: Rogue Wolves


this

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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 01:05:15


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Your about to go down Rogue? errrrrn... wow... errr. yeah.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 02:34:55


Post by: dsteingass


dOOD! That is completely epic!!


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This app is the worst form of bad software ever made..
But here is the layout I planned for a 6"x12" peice of .020"


It is cutting now, but I'm afraid the small font is not going to come out right Jake, I'm sorry. 1/8" is just too small for this thing.
I feel bad dood, I really thought it could do it.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 03:08:54


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Have you not thought about sculpting the symbol and casting it up for resin reproduction?

I don't mind offering my skills for sculpting if you'd rather not do that option.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 03:22:17


Post by: shasolenzabi


I like the bottom far left.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 03:42:48


Post by: dsteingass





The alphabet is trash, and it barely scored the surface...Will still need a knife to set the parts free... FAIL.
....piece of santorum!
try again...live and learn

@Childe- I'm making a master for a League base with these...for...
Spoiler:
casting


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 03:51:08


Post by: Rogue Wolves


1. like the santorum refrence
2. Hate you and your disapointing spoliers
3. WHAT IS THAT MACHINE!! ITS MAGIC!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 03:58:30


Post by: dsteingass


Second Draft
Simplified

..And this will get expensive experimenting with plastic, I need to practice with heavy card first, get her sighted in


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 04:06:11


Post by: mxwllmdr


SANTORUM DROPPED OUTTA THE RACE TODAY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 04:30:19


Post by: dsteingass


I know, bout time!

Anyways, this is what I want. This is what we call "fall off the bone good"


The Alphabet is still gak at 1/4" too

It's cardboard, but you get the idea.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 04:43:13


Post by: mxwllmdr


Are you using a heavy duty blade?


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And what program did you say you used to make the images?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 04:50:37


Post by: Rogue Wolves


oh baby yea! me love this long time dave, nice one! lol.. santorum, such a santorum he was..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 05:17:52


Post by: dsteingass


Sure Cuts A Lot is the name of the software


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 06:38:42


Post by: shasolenzabi


Looking awesome! I can't wait to see the finished piece!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 10:17:07


Post by: lone dirty dog


DAM this has so much potential, nice work so far with a little tweak it will be amazing.







Who you calling a dork


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Is Sure Cuts A Lot the software you use to design your own images then


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 10:34:32


Post by: dsteingass


No, not really- Sure Cuts A Lot is the layout software, you use GIMP or whatever for making images. It's just an image, it doesn't matter what you use to make the images.


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mxwllmdr wrote:Are you using a heavy duty blade?


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And what program did you say you used to make the images?


no, I am using a deep-cut blade.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 10:41:12


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:No, not really- Sure Cuts A Lot is the layout software, you use GIMP or whatever for making images. It's just an image, it doesn't matter what you use to make the images.


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mxwllmdr wrote:Are you using a heavy duty blade?


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And what program did you say you used to make the images?


no, I am using a deep-cut blade.


So call me stupid (steady) but this is not the hack ware you used then


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 10:45:48


Post by: dsteingass


Yes LDD, but you generally don't discuss hacks on a public forum as a rule


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 10:48:40


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:Yes LDD, but you generally don't discuss hacks on a public forum as a rule


O sorry mate I meant this is the officially released software for personal designs


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 10:50:28


Post by: dsteingass


Yes it is


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 11:16:11


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:Yes it is


Right


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 11:30:32


Post by: shasolenzabi


Cast them and we will throw money your way Dave. All of us in the League I think would like such unique pieces of basing for special models.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 11:55:18


Post by: Viktor von Domm


mxwllmdr wrote:SANTORUM DROPPED OUTTA THE RACE TODAY!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


dsteingass wrote:I know, bout time!

what? so now he is officially admitting he is a baboon?

Anyways, this is what I want. This is what we call "fall off the bone good"


The Alphabet is still gak at 1/4" too

It's cardboard, but you get the idea.



those look so cool dave! but how long can you experiment with all this stuff till you need a new blade? and what are the costs of such blade? guessing it is on the pricey side tho...

as for the designs... all three designs look very cool...tho i have to admit from the dimensions i like the lower right the best...here everything is just right!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 11:59:25


Post by: lone dirty dog


You could do with those Vik for your church, could just see one on the top of the spiral


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 12:22:36


Post by: Viktor von Domm


aye...aye...totally^^


(we so desperatly need a saluting orkmoticon mates!!!)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 12:23:24


Post by: dsteingass


no, it has to be done in Plastic first, I'm not using cardboard for the League base! My halfassery duplicated to the world???? I don't think so Shas!

The blades will last quite a while, and are cheap, it was the deep cut housing for the blade that was the expensive bit, but it won't wear out.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 12:31:36


Post by: shasolenzabi


Looks like I shall have tyo do some special base sculpts of my own then.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 12:33:24


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ah...i thought the housing was part of the blade "cartridge thingy"

by the way... IF you want...as the chuch is and will stay all cardboard i would be honored to glue the cardboard tries on the wall? ...that would even justify a redo from scratch as i have reently found some nothces and glitches thus i could do better...


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omg...that was so horrible english from me......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 12:36:03


Post by: dsteingass


Well, I'm not saying the cardboard doesn't have it's uses at all...I'm just saying I have a plastic standard I have to live up to.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 12:43:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep...that is true...and you have to keep true to that...beside..mixing materials makes only so much sense...i wear protective gloves whenever i use super glue... i have no need whatsoever to have my finger tips glued to something ^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 12:57:49


Post by: dsteingass


My fingers are constantly covered in CA!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 13:04:12


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ouch...that is quite frightening me... also when it first happened it burned and sucked all moisture from my skin... never did i see such weird skin behavior...not even after burns or other unwanted happenings^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 13:14:43


Post by: HAZZER


Wow! I love the new bases that have been done with the "new riveting"! They are epic! The bases with the pipes and parts of a wall are soo good! I'm going to have to nick that idea! God if those bases were human I'd marry them all! I just love plasticard bearing in mind that I've only just porpperly discovoured it!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 13:35:27


Post by: mxwllmdr


lone dirty dog wrote:
dsteingass wrote:No, not really- Sure Cuts A Lot is the layout software, you use GIMP or whatever for making images. It's just an image, it doesn't matter what you use to make the images.


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mxwllmdr wrote:Are you using a heavy duty blade?


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And what program did you say you used to make the images?


no, I am using a deep-cut blade.



Yeah, that's what I meant. At thirty bucks for the housing it isn't a bad investment.


Lone Dirty Dog wrote:So call me stupid (steady) but this is not the hack ware you used then


dsteingass wrote:No, not really- Sure Cuts A Lot is the layout software, you use GIMP or whatever for making images. It's just an image, it doesn't matter what you use to make the images.



Sorry, again. I knew it wasn't a hack, per se. Sure cuts a lot just works. So does 'Makes The Cut' if you can find a hard copy of the original.




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Gotta get and learn GIMP.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 13:38:08


Post by: Viktor von Domm


gimp is rather easy... and there are websites with tut all around...even i found one tho it helps if you worked with photoshop and the likes before^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 13:55:54


Post by: Briancj


I am amused at the use of the cricut machine, D. And seeing it in action makes me want one, now. Thanks for being the guinea pig on this.

As a side note, I encourage everyone to explore other model hobby website and magazines. Many of the techniques currently being used to 'wow' people (for example, the Forge World Masterclasses on armor painting) are techniques that have been around for decades. Expand your horizons, and see what's out there.

Plus, you have cool reading material for the library*!

--B.

*Bathroom



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 14:06:04


Post by: dsteingass


The real problem for me is tracing any other image file and getting a proper graphical path for the Cricut blade to follow- it can be done, but it's a bit tricky.

There are youtube videos out there teach the process (search cricut and SCAL) , but it rarely ever works for me. There must be an easier way to do it, I just don't know what it is. It also takes soo much time to learn the process.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 14:27:00


Post by: RoninAkira


Hi, first post on your blog after lurking for what now feels like years. going back to your bases, could you not combine your love of Lego and building and come up with some new type of modular base pieces with pegs and holes, this would make the parts much easier to cast and endless combinations possible. I was mainly thinking of the round 40mm and bigger, with the peg holes in the base. Keep up the good work.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 14:35:06


Post by: RSJake


No worries on the lettering Dave, thanks for trying! The -=]_,=- symols look great though!

A Cricut would be awesome, but I just looked them up and they are spendy, but I bet it would work great for making templates for my Airbrush Tattoos too. I think that may be a purchase for next year though.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 14:38:40


Post by: dsteingass


no, don't buy one. From everything I've read, the ZING is the better machine
http://forum.make-the-cut.com/discussion/18944/zing-video-balsa-wood


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 14:46:46


Post by: RSJake


Not exactly less expensive though...but we'll see if I can leave enough hints for Christmas!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 14:49:38


Post by: mxwllmdr


I like it that I can choose any true type font. I am throwing my wife a Mad Hatter Un-Birthday party this year and the deco will be AMAZING now. I had used the cricut previously on lightweight plastic (Garage sale signs mainly) but now I will use it a lot more........

The learning curve can't possibly be that huge, either...

It sucks we can never update this software, though.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 15:12:36


Post by: dsteingass


It's all about SCAL- it is designed for scrapbookers, and it assumes you want everything to have rounded corners for scrapbooking. If it were made for model builders, all the straight cuts would start and end straight. But it doesn't, it curves things. You can make any .SVG graphic in Inkscape or Illustrator, but SCAL will not cut it the way you want it to.

Another app, called Make The Cut seems like it promises more, but I dunno.
http://www.make-the-cut.com/
I don't want to waste money on it if it doesn't do what I want it to.

The learning curve is in the PATHING. Each time the blade has to change directions, that is another node in the drawing, the more nodes, the more stop/start cutting. - You know from wielding an x-acto that long, straight cuts are easier than curves, they cause less resistance on the blade. SCAL takes a 90 degree right angle (2 nodes) and turns it into a curve, instead of doing what we do with a knife, cut one way, then cut the other way to make the right angle.



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This is the .020" (.5mm) styrene Logo after trimming it out with a knife.

The greater thickness of the plastic and harder edges will definately be noticed over the cardboard.
I just wish the Cricut would give me "fall off the bone" with the plastic.
But still, very useful for SOME things.

Unfortunately, I don't see a way to cut stuff with sharper edges.


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I like my bases better than these however..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 17:40:06


Post by: mxwllmdr


Agreed, I am going to start experimenting with it, too. I will post any progress or neat findings.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 17:45:23


Post by: dsteingass


Me too, please do man!
The Multi-Pass feature would be the solution IMHO, but if your plastic shifts even slightly on the cutting mat, or the blade gets caught and moves the plastic, the second pass doesn't line up and you have a mess.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 17:53:39


Post by: RSJake


Multipass!!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 18:02:40


Post by: mxwllmdr


Mmmmmm, chicken!



Good thought. hadn't considered multipass. I think my wife uses it on paper too...


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Man, has that women ever looked better than in that movie?


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Gotta find a way to custom vecter things.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 18:13:42


Post by: RSJake


She looks good in the Resident Evil movies too, but Yeah...The fact that she topless helps.

I have nothing to add to the Cricket discussion.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 19:11:06


Post by: Rogue Wolves


^ this


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 20:37:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


me too...and thankfully mila yet again provided a very good looking disatraction

by the way...i feel like such a nerd for having thought of the fith element at first too^^

but all your finds dave show us one thing...there is a demand for such machines that one day would provide clean and straight cuts... i bet someone is jumping to that idea atm...or should! you never know who is reading this here^^

and yep...your bases look better than those of SW...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 21:43:21


Post by: dsteingass


I got to thinking...instead of fighting the curving, what If I can saddle it?


Test layered peice on a scrap of foamcore.

Whatchu think? - It will of course need scaled right, and the ridge layer would need to be wide enough for rivets.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 21:55:01


Post by: Viktor von Domm


now that is a very nice design idea...tho...it needs a bit of finetuning ...but i like where this is going ...that layered look is looking very mature...! have you thought about adding rivets? of course you have


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 21:58:15


Post by: lone dirty dog


It has potential but the curving aspect of these cuts creates almost comical shaping "if that makes sense"

Like you said it needs to be redesigned to create straight cuts rather than the curve, then it really would be worth the investment.

However it still looks cool and great work so far, but know go back and rebuild the machine properly LOL


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/11 22:00:13


Post by: Viktor von Domm


also...if the curves are what makes your problems...why not go with the flow and put in more curves? make it look more ornate ...of course this may produce even more difficulties...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 02:01:15


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks Vik! GREAT IDEA!!




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 02:13:45


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 02:25:31


Post by: madmartykmf


Super cool! Makes me want to join the =L=…even though I'm not a Riveter!

If you are looking to sell some one offs or a commission let me know. I have the perfect mini for that sniper base. I'd rather give you the money then someone I don't know.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 02:46:35


Post by: dsteingass


I can make you a sniper base that will love you long time! -PM me

I was inspired a bit by this article!


Check out the Boiler Plates on this Broad




..And since I had the camera out, check out the Underhive Railroad!!


I think he needs to do weapon swaps on those Safety Dance Gangers though


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 02:52:03


Post by: Briancj


Gotta love steel mills and blast furnaces. My club's model railroad has a full complex. I should take some inspirational pictures for you, D!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 03:18:39


Post by: Rogue Wolves


dave, what scale diamond plating do you use?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 03:43:33


Post by: dsteingass


Briancj wrote:Gotta love steel mills and blast furnaces. My club's model railroad has a full complex. I should take some inspirational pictures for you, D!


Please Do! I'd appreciate it man! Thanks

Rogue Wolves wrote:dave, what scale diamond plating do you use?


O is always safe (bottom) , but sometimes, you can use different scales and get away with it-



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 03:44:09


Post by: Rogue Wolves


thank you sir, im ordering my self some right now


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 03:53:44


Post by: dsteingass


Where from?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 03:55:28


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Looks awesome Dave!



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 03:56:23


Post by: Rogue Wolves


dsteingass wrote:Where from?

Well WAS going to order it, (still might) but i found this little minature hobbies shop that might stock it so im checking there first.. but if it dosent. i have no idea where


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 03:59:56


Post by: dsteingass


Best price here
http://www.hobbylinc.com/htm/pls/pls91684.htm

Thanks Childe!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 04:27:11


Post by: Rogue Wolves


thank you sir!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 07:40:36


Post by: Galorn


Looking really good...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 08:51:51


Post by: lone dirty dog


Looks great now you have added the Rivets and the ground work with sunken rivets gives a nice depth to it

I gather you have sharpened the edges up yourself then Looks crisper now


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lone dirty dog wrote:Looks great now you have added the Rivets and the ground work with sunken rivets gives a nice depth to it

I gather you have sharpened the edges up yourself then Looks crisper now


I also wish I had not got rid of all my dads old railway modeller magazines now


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 10:49:39


Post by: dsteingass


lone dirty dog wrote:
I also wish I had not got rid of all my dads old railway modeller magazines now


The Model RR hobby is in danger of dying off with a generation, we must be open-minded enough to learn their Riveting methods!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 11:40:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


now i am seriously wondering what you are up to dave with that big base of yours...will it be a scenic base for something or will you mke a scratchbuilt something on that? i am anxuious to know^^...and with the added rivets that thing looks supreme!

as a kid i had lots of stuff of the railroad theme...a whole trian set from playmobil and for H0 a big table in the middle of my room...shame that back then i wasn´t interested in the least in any railroad stuff then...my granddad did all the modeling then...maybe because i wasn´t involved in any making and building it was not interesting for me...just twisting the "go-fasta" switch wasn´t doing it for me...but now the old stuff sure smiles at a different angle to me...shame twice as all stuff is now gone...:(


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 11:42:07


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:
lone dirty dog wrote:
I also wish I had not got rid of all my dads old railway modeller magazines now


The Model RR hobby is in danger of dying off with a generation, we must be open-minded enough to learn their Riveting methods!


Dude when he passed I inherited all his model stuff and collectables, storage was a real issue and my sisters "were unable to store anything" so things had to be sacrificed unfortunately and they were the thing.

However they did go to a good home some guy took them who was into model railways, so at least they will be used.

I have kept all his models and trains still, shame I have no were to display them.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 11:43:33


Post by: shasolenzabi


Aye, good rivet work on the logo-base Dave!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 13:26:00


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks guys!

@LDD, what scale are the trains? Any good locomotives or roling stock?

If your Grandfather was a hobbyist, he would have wanted another hobbyist to enjoy the stuff, not just dryrot in a box somewhere, he obviously enjoyed them.

What am I up to Vik? I don't really know. I'm just playing around. I have no real plan other thank I was just going to send it to Galorn for mold-making. Maybe cast them in resin for -=]_,-= Members personalized use. I dunno.

I have always been interested with RR layouts, mostly building them. Once it was built though, I think I would get bored with it too, that is why I settled on slooowwwly collecting Lego RR stuff instead, I'd rather have the option of infinite rebuilds if I wanted to


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 13:31:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmm...sounds good... but i see a good oportunity for you here to make a character plinth...with...of course a charcter of yours...and resin-up that beatuy...sounds charming^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 13:34:52


Post by: dsteingass


Well it can be a character base if you want it, or a Sentinel, or a hvy weapons team, or just glue it to a building, whatever!


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I'm not really sure what to do around the rim though....nuts and bolts? Rivet-tread plate? something else? ideas?
It has a slight stepped effect, but this can always be covered if needed, or not.

It's the -=]_,=- Logo, you will all have at least one copy...what do you want?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 14:56:28


Post by: Viktor von Domm


a chain to go with? like a pimp chain^^

no seriously...need to go off...but i think about the base look...i get back with an answer to that!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 15:03:58


Post by: dsteingass


ok..think on this Vik......keep in mind, while a chain would look cool and all, would it cast up well? Or will it cause undercuts and a mess and ruin the whole base?





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 15:07:46


Post by: mxwllmdr


I think he meant a chain whith which to wear it around his neck......




LOL




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I love this thing. Wanna share the .svg?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 15:16:26


Post by: dsteingass


LOL, you want it cast in pure Gold bling? lol

Sure, but it's only 2 L's and three I's- you'd need the same font I used..which I think is called "Imperator" I don't have the .svg file here at work


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 15:27:47


Post by: mxwllmdr


Cool. I am on leave and the wifes big project isbalmost over. gotta start putting warhounds together today. and tomorrow but there is time to play around.....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 17:07:14


Post by: dsteingass


T-Minus thirty days! I am sooo Jealous of your time off!

If I could take an entire month off of work, I would be a completely different man by the time I went back!


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...and probably also have a permanent second skin of CA on my fingers


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 19:07:56


Post by: mxwllmdr


Yeah, I am scrubbing it off nightly, as well.......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 19:56:39


Post by: SilverHayabusa


^^ Thats what she said.... ^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 20:02:44


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


lmfao ^5 Silver



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:30:23


Post by: Viktor von Domm


I think he meant a chain whith which to wear it around his neck......




but it was but a joke, ok?! lol...wouldn´t want to be caught dead with some bling around my neck lol

but in all earnest... i had a thought... and the result...i would like to see the brim of the base flush with the edge... and i imagine the base all done in metallwork... but on the brim nothing...for me i would paint it all flush in metall and be done ...maybe...just maybe a small scroll for the "wielders" name? on second thought... a scroll is not the right thing...more a plate that gets...wait for it...riveteted down to the base^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:32:07


Post by: dsteingass


Sorry, I'm not following Vik...


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flush my brim edge what?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:34:49


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Thats okay Dave...
He's off in his own world.
No one understands him. ^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:36:34


Post by: Viktor von Domm


er... the brim...should be darn...one mom...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:36:40


Post by: Scarper


The league logo is amazing. Love the idea that you guys are actually going to have official membership tokens - it'll mark you out as crazy bastards! And no, I'm not jealous, not at all

Have you thought about checkerplate mesh for the outer rim?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:37:40


Post by: dsteingass


LOL, I always understand Vik!!

Even when he uses the same word three different times in three diferent ways in the same sentence, I ALWAYS understand what he means...It's our -=]_,=- Secret handshake.

But he used flush twice there, and my brain just could not compute what he meant with all the brims and edges


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:40:48


Post by: RSJake


I think this is what Vik meant Dave. "Squaring off" the base edges.

[Thumb - Base.JPG]


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:41:03


Post by: mxwllmdr


I usually understand him. I think I got the meaning he was trying to convey. The outer most upper edge of the actual baseplate and the botom most layer of PC should be even......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:44:04


Post by: dsteingass


I think he meant I should give the plasticard the same bevel as the sum of the square of the root of the rivetside measurement, and give everything on top of the base the same bevel as the black GW base....lol


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:44:13


Post by: SilverHayabusa


I understood him. Maybe because he talks like I do??
I think that it's a good idea. Sorry for giving you a hard time Vikky..


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:45:39


Post by: Viktor von Domm




something like that...tho i realize that the statement above earlier is now invalid^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:47:05


Post by: RSJake


How is that flush with anything?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:48:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


lol

well...actually i think max was closest to what i originally had in mind...

and sorry...i hope the last one of yours dave was a joke as i didn´t understand zip^^




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RSJake wrote:How is that flush with anything?


i changed my mind lol

in between doing it in mspaint i changed my mind^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:52:11


Post by: dsteingass


I can do that Vik! lol

...But I meant that I need help with what to do around the top rim of the base, surrounding the League logo...

Scarper suggested mesh. I want some different mesh, but I can only find one kind.....IMHO the aluminum mesh I have bends too easily for that skinny of an area. -You've seen me use it on a bunch of stuff here. like this


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:54:13


Post by: Viktor von Domm


maybe you could do some GS work...or twisted cable? i can´t describe it atm...hmmm...


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like so:






The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 21:58:31


Post by: dsteingass


Filigree!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filigree

Vik, I don't sculpt buddy.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:00:48


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Scarper wrote:And no, I'm not jealous, not at all



hey i've been an admiring follower of your thread since the begining... the second you throw a rivet down i will be on it like flies on poop


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:01:57


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah Scarp! You are Always Welcome to join the -=]_,=-!
All you gotta do is Show Us The RIVETS!

Who Watches the Watchers???
..That's Right...
-=]_,=-


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:06:46


Post by: Rogue Wolves


when you get tired of building normal gangers (please dont), you could always make a cult that have cool robots with rivets!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:10:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm


scarper would be a charming addition to the fold all right!!! and i bet he aplied the odd rivet already^^


as for the filligre...i really meant something like that:



somehow i am not really right in the head atm...so first try is crappy for me^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:11:41


Post by: dsteingass


Ohhhh I see....
/scratching stubble thoughfully....


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..But remember Scarp! THis is not the League of Mediocre Riveters!! -You must also Rivet...Exraordinarily!

This is left open to interpretation deliberately.....some rivet insane quantities, some rivet in new ways, some rivet obsessively...


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..It is a state of Mind and soul and knifework you achieve...called Rivet Zen!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:24:38


Post by: Viktor von Domm


try to picture google "Rivet Zen"... the third pic is of your thread dave!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:27:38


Post by: madmartykmf


Base looks great!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:29:28


Post by: mxwllmdr


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. THATS EPIC!!!!! CONGRATS DAVE! YOU GOT A GOOGLE TOPIC THAT GETS YOU FRONT PAGE!!!!!!!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:29:35


Post by: dsteingass


HAHAHA That's is Awesome Vik!

..You are that Wise Man Vik.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:32:17


Post by: Viktor von Domm




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:35:59


Post by: dsteingass


What do you mean Max?

Vik, That is cool!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:42:25


Post by: Viktor von Domm


thanks mate^^

it is labled even for quick referrence if needed for further use^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:47:16


Post by: Scarper


Hahaha, aww, cheers for the invite guys! I'll have to rivet the crap out of something to work up some riveting skills before I'm willing to show you lot. Gotta develop that rivet-based wisdom

If it helps at all, have you got any instantmold, dave? It's pretty awesome for picking up textures to remould, and saving you money on plasticard stuff if it's just for basing -

Spoiler:

The one on the left is the original, and the middle is a grey stuff cast. The one on the far right is grey stuff of a mould i made off the back of a vehicle. You can get it much neater and flatter than this, was just something i threw together for basing!


'Rivet zen' is also an amazing thing to have associated with your name


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:58:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that instant mold is on the to get list...by the way...anvilidnustries has a cheapo variant on ebay...

and scarper...that basing deatil you did...looks very good!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 22:59:36


Post by: lone dirty dog


I was thinking if these bases are going to be issued to the league, will these be the display base for our model Rivet league alter ego's

I would like a set of railings running around 3 quarters of the base, kind of framing the outer edge.

Plus the railway stuff was my dads not my granddads, it is HO scale so not much use for this type of stuff.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:06:13


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i like the railing idea LDD...something to frame and give it a bit of scenic feel too...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:12:37


Post by: dsteingass


You'll have to add your own railings if you want them i'm afraid...you can't really cast that stuff. You can't have things that won't cast.

and I disagree..HO scale stuff has many, many, many uses in our scale...Railings, maybe


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:16:39


Post by: Viktor von Domm


right of course we can spice those bases up as we see fit sometimes my mind...^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:18:48


Post by: Rogue Wolves


lol rivet zen


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:19:24


Post by: shasolenzabi


I think Scarper meant the "Zen of Riveting"

Oh that is looking nice Dave, I will likely have to give the new address to send it to me once I am settled in. I will be offline starting April 19thg as the computer will be packed up and I will be waiting to load the truck the 20th!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:22:13


Post by: dsteingass


Loading up the truck and move to Beverly?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:23:02


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:You'll have to add your own railings if you want them i'm afraid...you can't really cast that stuff. You can't have things that won't cast.

and I disagree..HO scale stuff has many, many, many uses in our scale...Railings, maybe


No, I meant add them after wards

As for the rail way I thought you were aiming more towards the trains themselves, as for scenery stuff I have not really looked at , I guess I will be going to the loft this weekend


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:23:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


now i finally need to remeber that date shaso i bet you are all edgy already...i would...^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:23:48


Post by: dsteingass


Go! Look at the bitz! USE the BITZ!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:24:42


Post by: shasolenzabi


More like Wagons!,,,,East.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:32:06


Post by: dsteingass


I was able to surgically remove the top layer, freeing me out of the modelling corner I had painted myself into.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:32:49


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:Go! Look at the bitz! USE the BITZ!



I dont think there will be that much he was lazier than me at building stuff


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:38:03


Post by: Viktor von Domm


dsteingass wrote:I was able to surgically remove the top layer, freeing me out of the modelling corner I had painted myself into.


ok...dunno why you did that but i am willing (what else could i do^^) and see how this develops...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/12 23:59:11


Post by: dsteingass


I went even further Vik!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 00:05:05


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ouch... if i didn´t knew it better i would have fear if you knew what you are doing...but i know that you know what you are doing


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 00:08:49


Post by: lone dirty dog


Are you sure


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 00:12:49


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i bet he is...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 00:16:32


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Dave just had an excellent idea

Spoiler:






The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 00:16:49


Post by: shasolenzabi


He's up to something!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 00:23:12


Post by: Viktor von Domm


well that something i catch up with tomorrow...my tomorrow that is...will be heading form dreamland now...

cheers fellas!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 00:52:05


Post by: Rogue Wolves


see ya vik, and childe.... first cats, now spoilers... i think your like that robot from the disney movie "the incredibles" adapting to our every move, prepairing to attack.. im only curious to what you can get out of vik or ldd


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 01:01:46


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


I'm not planning on eating any of you... that just isnt fun... No, I'm planning on making you fight gladatorial battles weaing nothing but a spoon and lemon for a hat.





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 01:27:44


Post by: Rogue Wolves


hahaha you think you have to MAKE me do that! so nieve... looks like its going to take much longer to become fully adapt.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 01:34:46


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


the power of suggestion



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 01:39:28


Post by: Rogue Wolves


insuggestion?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 01:44:10


Post by: mxwllmdr


AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:I'm not planning on eating any of you... that just isnt fun... No, I'm planning on making you fight gladatorial battles weaing nothing but a spoon and lemon for a hat.





Rogue Wolves wrote:hahaha you think you have to MAKE me do that! so nieve... looks like its going to take much longer to become fully adapt.



Does sorta sound like a day at the park to me, too....


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What exactly is on your funny little mind, Dave?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 04:29:28


Post by: dsteingass


mxwllmdr wrote:What exactly is on your funny little mind, Dave?




Who you callin' Funny?



Max, the gears are a free-already properly prepared .SVG file!
http://freesvgs.blogspot.com/2010/01/gears-free-svg-files-cricutscal.html



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 04:42:07


Post by: Rogue Wolves


oooOOOOOOooo im liking what im seeing


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 04:51:45


Post by: mxwllmdr


Oh, you are a wonderful person. Funny, but wonderful........


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 06:31:49


Post by: Rogue Wolves


Funderful, one might say?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 07:24:59


Post by: mxwllmdr


How's that working out for you, RW?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 07:56:37


Post by: lone dirty dog


Gears now they are a good idea, mxwllmdr need motif's for your titans I see why this is interesting you

I want a league Titan I think it must be built


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 08:06:52


Post by: Rogue Wolves


mxwllmdr wrote:How's that working out for you, RW?

as well as a blind guy can get


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 10:29:12


Post by: dsteingass


lone dirty dog wrote:Gears now they are a good idea, mxwllmdr need motif's for your titans I see why this is interesting you

I want a league Titan I think it must be built


Not without getting off your ass and buying new blades first!!....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 13:12:18


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh my....




gears...too...





man dave!!! i am married man... you cannot tempt me like this! all that good stuff you are showing leads to wanting behavior... i could get into real trouble...you should really try to aim for something mediocre for once...sheesh...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 14:08:59


Post by: mxwllmdr


Quit yer bitchin and by a Cricut. Or better yet a Silhouette......


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 14:10:49


Post by: dsteingass


You like Vik?

The possibilities are endless when you can create an infinite amount of .5mm thick gears in any size, but it takes A LOT of manual trimming with a knife (my wrist was wore out after getting as far as my previous pic) last night.

They still need cleanup, but do you think these will look right in the base? Real gears are so precisely machined, do you think I can get away with this rough plasticard look? If so, should I have some sort of DIFFERENT texture below all the gears and the League logo?? Or just more layers of gearwork? Or maybe just plain?

I find myself wondering if I use TOO MANY layers or textures that a miniature might not be able to stand properly? I dunno whether or not to approach it as artwork or a mini base now...Soo many ideas, sooo many possibilities!



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 14:26:19


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think all of your above given options have a lot going for them... i really love the gears!!! they make no sense in terrain mocking bases but i like them from an artist perspective! so i think one bog gear and some smaller ones...or more small ones for the small bases would loook lovely...as for the underlying structure or if you use too much layers...
no, i think your stuff looks better multilayered...the way i imagine it looking painted is mainly metalics with washes afterwards...IF done in just one layer this would look to bare... you here created a look that will be quite cool! steampunky cool! as for whyt to use under the gears and the "L"...well i think the diamond plates would look good...but then the L has to be plain...(of course multilayerd too!)


and...i bet that was some hard cleanupwork...wouldn´t want to trade places here^^ because...i tried it one...but my designs looks bad...so i chuck them away... with yiur circut you get the basic shape done and then it is all your craftmanship again...! i like that devotion you show!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 14:47:51


Post by: mxwllmdr


I liked the idea of putting them on the side of a plinth.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 15:28:45


Post by: dsteingass


There are a lot of clockwork steampunk bases out there



These look like they just opened up a watch and casted it



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 15:29:16


Post by: shasolenzabi


They sure do!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 16:49:11


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yep...looks totally like that...if we look closley i bet we gonna see a swatch stamp even...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 17:42:14


Post by: mxwllmdr


I actually own amn1870's pocket watch that still works. It does in fact look just like that....


Funny.....




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 18:05:56


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Man. I love those gears. One way that I would love to see them i standing at an angle on the base almost like they fell from a building. However this would not work so well if something were to be mounted to said base...


I will do up a photo right now!


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 18:58:17


Post by: dsteingass


That would be cool Silver! But it would be rather hard to cast. It would be great for ruins though, some half buried in rubble...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 19:01:55


Post by: SilverHayabusa


I was thinking that it would be alittle hard to cast to...

Ruin's for sure!
Maybe a half blown up clock tower attached to a temple of riveting? With gears half sunk into the dirt around the base of the tower?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 19:06:04


Post by: Rogue Wolves


woh woh woh on the advertisements at the top of dakka, i could have sworn i just saw something that said "blind rivet gun"


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 19:07:16


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, rivet ads get targeted to me all the time for some strange reason...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 19:18:29


Post by: HAZZER


So will all =L= members get a base?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 19:24:32


Post by: dsteingass


Sure, If I can just make up my mind and settle on a design...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 20:11:55


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


COGS
COGS
SOME COGS
YET MORE
A FEW COGS
AND MORE COGS
THEN EVEN MORE MOTHERFETHING COGS

How about that Dave?





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 20:26:58


Post by: dsteingass


I can do that!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 20:30:25


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Good lad

thats what we all like to hear lols... even If I'm not a league member



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 20:30:55


Post by: SilverHayabusa


With rivets
A few more rivets...
Possibly rivets ontop...
With cogs coated in....
Rivets?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 20:48:02


Post by: mxwllmdr


Hey, Dave, I am making some .svg's. Want copies?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 21:49:57


Post by: DaemonJellybaby


What about cog-rivets? As opposed to regular circular rivets... They might need to be giant cog rivets tho.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 21:58:33


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hey silver that lil 3d thingy looks almost like some artist price for some award... tho i would think less would look better...but the ruined clocktower sounds like a cool terrainidea nevertheless...i am looking in a certain dave-orientated direction here^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 21:59:42


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Vik, your orientated towards Dave? O_o



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:03:08


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Oh.... my....

Vik I knew you liked smaller busts... But Dave?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:04:40


Post by: Viktor von Domm


SilverHayabusa wrote:Oh.... my....

Vik I knew you liked smaller busts... But Dave?



how did you know? frim, tasty and one for each hand...that´s the winning ticket...always was and always will...gravity is for those who like them old and fat,..

































The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:05:28


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Now now Silver... its rude to mock the inflicted



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:22:44


Post by: SilverHayabusa


O.o....


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:26:52


Post by: dsteingass


...
ANYWAYS...


Yeah Max- Email away!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:29:16


Post by: SilverHayabusa


DUDE!!!


Awesome!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:35:07


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i think all cogs look great on this one...tho one minior issue i have to tell you...the right one...the one with the biggest teeth... it has no connection/ joint(?) with the other three? tho i think it looks also very impressive...!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:40:37


Post by: RSJake


That is truely impressive Dave!

And Vik, the cogs that match up the larger one are out of view through this small window.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:41:15


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


dsteingass wrote:...
ANYWAYS...


PAPA-NID WANTS!!!

Viktor von Domm wrote:i think all cogs look great on this one...tho one minior issue i have to tell you...the right one...the one with the biggest teeth... it has no connection/ joint(?) with the other three? tho i think it looks also very impressive...!


Doesn't mean there wouldn't be a connecting cog out of view Vik. I know what your getting at but logically, its sound. If it wasn't I'd have said, as I'm OCD about things that don't have logic/sense applied to them





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:44:00


Post by: Viktor von Domm


jake and childe...yep i see both your points here... so i keep my gob shut^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:44:31


Post by: Baiyuan


Great work on your bases. Pure envy for the Cricut, which leads to my next point: Dave, you simply have too much fething time and money at your hands! Not only that you can afford the nicest toys (as working folk we can do such things) but you also seem to have infinite amounts of time to play with them (which an average adult doesn't have). What's your secret, mate? Admit that you have an army of slaves that do all the work for you...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:45:04


Post by: Viktor von Domm


also:

i like the big frame you did there... will there be one row of rivets or even two rings of rivets on that one?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:45:21


Post by: RSJake


Nah, you have a good eye for possible errors Vik! We need that! Don't lose that!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:47:18


Post by: Viktor von Domm




than i would be oneeyed like a member i won´t name here? lol


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:48:31


Post by: Rogue Wolves


....... looks nice dave but vik... not classy


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:49:43


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


If you don't question things Vik how can people learn or maybe adapt to make something better. Keep up the questions, as I love that in a person, especially with my current work at the moment.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:51:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


oh c´mon



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:51:43


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:52:48


Post by: Viktor von Domm


see...all is mended^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:55:42


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


lols Vik



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 22:56:17


Post by: Rogue Wolves


i would perfer it with the left eye closed though.. (i like me my smileys personal!)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:03:21


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that is just personal perspective... it all averages out ...you have to imagine i am posting this form the other side of the planet...see? ^_°


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:03:45


Post by: dsteingass


Baiyan..I work like a dog, and then I go to my happy place, then I sleep, and do it all over again. I also have a well-paid, nerdkind non-narcissist GF, that is truly my secret



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:03:59


Post by: Rogue Wolves


OOOooo, yes


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dave that reminds me of the chamber that the golden army was held in during the movie Hellboy 2 (which means i like it)


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:04:46


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Dave, you have a GF? Wow... didn't see that one coming O_o













I jest


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:07:32


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that smaller cog on top of the one on the far left...that is the icing on the cake!

also thanks for adding that small part of the gear on the very low mid part...helps me to cope with my case of OCD^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:07:32


Post by: dsteingass


Oh, And Baiyuan..I didn't buy the Cricut, ex-gf left it


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-That was just for you Vik!

WTF is that supposed to mean Childe?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:12:58


Post by: SilverHayabusa


I think he saw you as a lone dog.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:14:06


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


What Silver said



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:22:37


Post by: dsteingass


noo way, I do stupid things when I'm single

I am wondering...

League Logo?

...


Or No?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:26:05


Post by: SilverHayabusa


Sadly I like it better without the L...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:28:38


Post by: Viktor von Domm


naw... dave has hit the jackpot with his better half!!!


you can´t beat a nerdy woman that is selfconscious about her love for her man and the shared hobbies... that is an eleven on a scale of ten^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:30:13


Post by: dsteingass


Yep!...These go to ELEVEN!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:30:57


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


With the "L" logo...

WITH I SAID!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:31:14


Post by: Rogue Wolves


^lols


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:31:20


Post by: Viktor von Domm


hmmmm.... that is a bit difficult... i am biased about it...


looks good with the L also without.,.. tho you have to say atm all in white the mucho whiteness drowns a bit all the good things... painted it might look complteley diffrent... if we do the L in brass and the cogs and such in steel...that could look lovley...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:31:24


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde




hehe Spinal Tap ftw!!!



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:31:51


Post by: Viktor von Domm


dsteingass wrote:Yep!...These go to ELEVEN!!





The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:32:36


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


I like the Idea Vik, but I'd say Brass cogs and Silver logo. but thats an opinion thing tbh...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:37:25


Post by: Viktor von Domm


ok...granted...i see my error^^ (no really!) also: if you do it like: steel frame with rivets, brass cogs and then steel L it gets a nice tricolor look...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:39:17


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Yeah that works much better Vik



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:47:57


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/13 23:57:31


Post by: dsteingass


SOme trimming and minor fixin

I'm afraid the Logo glued on top will leave a nasty hole in the mold


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 00:01:13


Post by: Rogue Wolves


what about a little logo on the center circle of the large gear to the left?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 00:02:28


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


What about GS/milliput to fill the gaps Dave, it's how I'd tackle it before moulding, then for good measure, liquid GS lols.


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Or you could ask Galorn for advice (that is who you talk to about casting isn't it? I'm useless with names...)



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 00:03:42


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i bet that will be too small...

well dave one can always insert it later on...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 00:04:17


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah yeah, in due time Childe.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 00:05:49


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


But if he's casting it up for distribution (s.p?) Vik, It'd be much simpler to cast as one peice.


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Sowwies Dave, I get ahead of myself



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 00:32:46


Post by: dsteingass


Tomorrow, I'm gonna go get some of that instamold stuff for the -=]_,=- Logo to be cast seperately from the bases...- It makes the most sense to me and will prevent me from regret gluing it..again.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 00:55:08


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


I can understand the logic in that tbh



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 01:12:06


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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 02:44:50


Post by: dsteingass


Thanks for the epic jaw-drop Capn!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 02:46:10


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


lols cap.


BTW slight threadjack... I need the ideas of the collective League. so could you all see my latest post on my P&M thread, it'd be much appreciated



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 03:43:26


Post by: dsteingass


I just completely stole the simple, yet brilliant idea for the screw heads from Monkeytroll's latest Excellent building



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The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 04:25:34


Post by: Galorn


Those would all mold up a treat right now...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 09:42:52


Post by: lone dirty dog


SilverHayabusa wrote:I think he saw you as a lone dog.


WTF does that mean


Firstly just took a while to catch up (usual amount of weird crap to wade through) On the base design loving the cogs with or without the league motto works well.

I have had an idea you might like probably not though, as to the issue of the mini standing on the base and uneven stable issues, you could just use a clear plastic circle and raise it above the base design, to stand the mini on as if standing on a glass floor above the workings.

It could be quite easy to achieve I would think and you could cast the posts on the outside edge of the base readily to place the plastic circle.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 11:33:42


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


The addition of the screws make the whole thing complete imo. Good job on the steal there dave



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 12:24:58


Post by: shasolenzabi


Dave, you have certainly done so well as to deserve this:



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 12:45:08


Post by: dsteingass


Very Cool! Thanks Shas!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 13:21:45


Post by: Viktor von Domm


the screws! very good idea... and something i intend to copy soon too^^

as for the motto LDD mentioned...do we have one already?

and dave...that last pic of yours...good enough to be eaten^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 13:24:56


Post by: dsteingass


THanks Vik!

Yes, Eat, Drink, Rivet and be Merry

@LDD- there is only .5mm lip between the gears and the top lip (less where the screws are) so a piece of clear would actually stick out abouve the lip.


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 13:40:26


Post by: Viktor von Domm


baybe one could make a mold and then cast it fitting in clear resin? but there are possibly too many things that could go wrong for this...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 13:43:49


Post by: dsteingass


Yeah, I though about several different things, but I've really got to keep the design open, if someone wanted to, they could use some REALLY thin clear stuff, (like overhead transparency plastic- like you use for window glass) but i'm afraid it would be too flexible to mount a miniature when you were done.

LDD, you're just going to have to figure that customization out on your own if you wish.


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Cracks filled

Ready for rivets


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I think we'll call this one finished...I need to move on now


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 17:01:50


Post by: Rogue Wolves


that looks better then most of the gear/steampunk bases out there!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 17:17:50


Post by: lone dirty dog


I see your reservations concerning my clear plastic circle However I meant the white circle section that surrounds the cogs (which you have now riveted, in place of said rivets use longer lengths of rod all the same hight to sit the clear circle section on.

Plus I was thinking of using like a clear perspex for strength, it was only an idea


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 17:41:11


Post by: HAZZER


ONG! You've now gone through 11? How many different copys do you need!LOL! You will find a sweet looken one some day!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 18:07:29


Post by: Viktor von Domm


amazing...yet again you have prooven why we fell in love with rivets! that base is declared finished!!!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 18:21:46


Post by: dsteingass


lone dirty dog wrote:I see your reservations concerning my clear plastic circle However I meant the white circle section that surrounds the cogs (which you have now riveted, in place of said rivets use longer lengths of rod all the same hight to sit the clear circle section on.

Plus I was thinking of using like a clear perspex for strength, it was only an idea


Please LDD, I wasnt scolding you brother was challenging you to modify yours in that way! I love the idea of the raised bits, you can easily make that mod to yours when you get it


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This is everything mold-making and casting-related that i can get in my local area (besides some big cans of polyester resin, which I don't know anything about), no 2-part silicone rubber to be found sadly...

I have BIG plans for these columns! And it has to do with casting them!

So, we play with Instamold...

My mold-making virginity is now lost.
.....For the -=]_.=- !!

Please Note: No Heresy was committed here, all Legos used have lived a long, playful life, and are only dirty and/or scratched...They still serve!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 18:26:59


Post by: Viktor von Domm


i feel like a dog when i say:
"when, when, when, when, when, when,when, when, when,when, when, when,when, when, when,when, when, when,when, when, when,when, when, when,when, when, when,when, when, when,when, when..............................................


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ohoh...dave used legos for a heretic use...the end is nigh....


and nice suply drop...i was a bit worried there wasn´t some nice saturday night extravagance in that department for us all^^

and...i know what you are atemting to do with those columns...but i aint tellin`


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Please Note: No Heresy was committed here, all Legos used have lived a long, playful life, and are only dirty and/or scratched...They still serve!



hehehe...


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 19:00:58


Post by: Moltar


Dave,

That League Logo Base looks down-right awesome! I'm constantly amazed at the amount of products that you put out over and over and that the quality is top notch. Due to your love of Legos, I thought I'd share this with you, if you haven't seen it already. It could give you some nifty Lego-kit bash ideas.

http://www.ninjabread.co.uk/2012/03/01/lego-space-dwarves/


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 19:14:33


Post by: dsteingass


OMG! I love the Space Dwarves!- I love it when people go the extra mile by making box-art for their MoC's

Thanks Moltar!



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 19:17:10


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that anviland hammer is very cool!

a friend of mine posted that a few months ago...totally forgot to mention that here for dave!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 19:18:22


Post by: dsteingass


Gee Vik....Thanks

That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 19:21:29


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


But Dave... I thought you knew... I am your father!



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 19:26:56


Post by: Viktor von Domm


yeah ...i think that was a bit of a kenobi i pulled on you...from a cettain kind of perspective tho only...



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 19:31:05


Post by: shasolenzabi


I see the molds are a poppin'!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 19:34:18


Post by: dsteingass


Yes...My Master



Air Bubbles will give the Logo EXTRA RIVETS


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 19:44:34


Post by: shasolenzabi


LOL! awesome to see it happening Dave, like the one to the right


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:06:51


Post by: dsteingass



Gear Base

..>And I mixed up too much, so in went a rare Necromunda Bulkhead window



I need to get rid of the air bubbles somehow..I have a back massager...will try that


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:12:57


Post by: Viktor von Domm


that wobbling motion might just work...

what do you think about the moldmaking process all in all?

the pics i am afraid don´t show that much detail for now...

when will the molds be usable?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:17:53


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Dave the best way usually is to have a block of wet clay at the base within the walls, place the item you are wanting to mould face up, then pour the mould product on top. that way air bubbles rise to the top, and won't become trapped against the item your wanting to replicate. Always remember, air bubbles rise. so the product needs to be at the bottom for moulding.


apologies for the repetition.



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:27:08


Post by: lone dirty dog


I will try it when mine arrives I was thinking of using an old camera lens if it's the right size

Those columns look interesting what have you planned for us know any hints

I tap the side of my mould gently with a small hammer to get some of the air bubbles out with some success although the massager should work


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AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Dave the best way usually is to have a block of wet clay at the base within the walls, place the item you are wanting to mould face up, then pour the mould product on top. that way air bubbles rise to the top, and won't become trapped against the item your wanting to replicate. Always remember, air bubbles rise. so the product needs to be at the bottom for moulding.


apologies for the repetition.



I use cheap playdough on mine


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:36:25


Post by: dsteingass


Why clay? Won't plastic work?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:41:33


Post by: lone dirty dog


dsteingass wrote:Why clay? Won't plastic work?


do you mean stick it to a flat sheet of plasticard then fit the lego around that if so I tried that with a sheet of plastic but for some reason clay, plasticine ect work better


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:45:51


Post by: dsteingass


No, I mean like this...

The Instamold doesn't stick to plastic, it slides off like hot butter.

It would REALLY help if I knew what I was doing too


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:48:23


Post by: lone dirty dog


Yes it works, it would help if any of us truly new what the hell we were doing as well

But thats half the fun ………. isn't it


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:49:20


Post by: Viktor von Domm


It would REALLY help if I knew what I was doing too
sigged...oh so sigged^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:49:41


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


Yeah thats pretty much what I mean Dave, except instead of sticking it to plasticard just line the base with clay/plasticene works a treat. (i make moulds all the time for making latex masks )



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:51:38


Post by: lone dirty dog


AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:Yeah thats pretty much what I mean Dave, except instead of sticking it to plasticard just line the base with clay/plasticene works a treat. (i make moulds all the time for making latex masks )



This is interesting what kind of masks horror theatrical or just weird pleasure ,,,,,,,


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:52:04


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


also, sorry it took so long to reply... sticking together gaunts is a royal pain...


Note to all... when talking about Monopose gaunts... never refer to them in conversation as Menopause Gaunts... as I did to my dearest mother... who looked at me like I was stupid




The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:53:06


Post by: Viktor von Domm


at childe...

not face-> desk...but face -> mould??? aha!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:53:27


Post by: lone dirty dog


AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:also, sorry it took so long to reply... sticking together gaunts is a royal pain...


Note to all... when talking about Monopose gaunts... never refer to them in conversation as Menopause Gaunts... as I did to my dearest mother... who looked at me like I was stupid




ROFL thats an army you don't want to feth with


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:53:49


Post by: Viktor von Domm


Menopause Gaunts
LOL


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:53:59


Post by: AnUnearthlyChilde


@LDD I make random ones, tis kinda of a hobby of sorts... started out as a uni project when I was there, now it's just a random continuation...




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and now I return to sticking fething gaunts together



The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:56:30


Post by: lone dirty dog


AnUnearthlyChilde wrote:@LDD I make random ones, tis kinda of a hobby of sorts... started out as a uni project when I was there, now it's just a random continuation...




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and now I return to sticking fething gaunts together



Have you any pics always something I wish I had gone into film props and that

That sounds risky fething gaunts do you have special tools for that


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 20:57:55


Post by: Viktor von Domm


do you have special tools for that


that´s what she asked?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:00:25


Post by: lone dirty dog


Viktor von Domm wrote:
do you have special tools for that


that´s what she asked?


What did he reply


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:02:15


Post by: Viktor von Domm


probably...: take it or leave it?...

or...

it will get better if you pick on it...?


or...

stick it where the sun does not...no i won´t get there even for a hearty lul^^


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:02:52


Post by: dsteingass


Ok..Trying it bottom up.
Even after the massager, many bubbles just wouldn't pop


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:03:36


Post by: lone dirty dog


Viktor von Domm wrote:probably...: take it or leave it?...

or...

it will get better if you pick on it...?


or…
I do worry about you at times




Dam you really go at it when you start something Dave, trial and error trial and error


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:04:37


Post by: Viktor von Domm


but not this time...right...LDD??

have you checked that your resin mix is all good? mebbe this is the cause?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:05:55


Post by: dsteingass


I don't Feth Around!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:05:58


Post by: lone dirty dog


Viktor von Domm wrote:but not this time...right...LDD??

have you checked that your resin mix is all good? mebbe this is the cause?


I thought these were the rubber moulds


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dsteingass wrote:I don't Feth Around!


No you don't


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:08:38


Post by: Viktor von Domm


of course these are the rubber mold....silly me... but maybe your mix was too enthusiastic? like making creme but here you don´t have to stirr so much? i mean what is the cause for so many bubbles anyways?


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:09:44


Post by: Rawson


dsteingass wrote:Gee Vik....Thanks

That's like saying "I forgot to tell you who your real father is"

Oh so sigged!


The Necromunda Project: Fallout @ 2012/04/14 21:10:58


Post by: dsteingass


No..It's not rubber, it's...gelatin..instamold. It's toast when it dries out and cracks. My town doesn't seem to have any 2-part rubber stuff.