gw has said nothing relating seraphim for january. only thing about seraphim they have said is "sometime next year" while for others where date was even indirectly hinted was january.
GW being illogical at times I'm not taking seraphim coming on january until gw actually says so. which hopefully is tomorrow.
There's also possibility of course where both seraphim don't come to preorder on 11 and they are dual kit is possible. Specifically the zephyr was long term preview for wave 2 and they dont come with first wave.
(which actually makes sense now that I think. These are not reveals of units coming on 11.1 but are part of the wave 2. Expecting all 16 kits or so in wave 1 would be optimistic anyway)
So, Eisenhorn, Damien 1427 and Artemis are now in 40k proper. Who's next? The current DCA already look quite similar to Severina an Sevora, but not identical. Another Inquisitor, like Tyrus or Covenant? Barbaretta and her Cyber-Mastiff? Or Malicant? I'd love for a 28mm plastic Malicant to add to my sisters, along with a Frateris Militia/Redemptionist unit! [edit]Or Quovandius lol[/edit]
When I first saw the Repenters, I was cautious enough to wait for the rest of the line. Now, I'm glad I held off on getting even one model; these guys look more like feminist dominatrix-nuns than actual orphans trained to fight on(or at )the same level as the Astartes.
I'm sorry, but I think I'm done posting on this topic. In fact, The only model from that line I will buy is a single Agro-Flagellant for Blackstone Fortress. Such a shame, the sisters looked great too....
Disclaimer: I apologise if the comment sounded inappropiate to some. Dominatrix-nuns kinda creep me out, which is why I don't like Nasir, Skaard or Eden's Matriarchy.
Look like nuns, male models are in less clothing. I don't care for more or less clothing, and it's nice to see more empowering women as models, but how they made the Engines, Flagellants and Repenters....I expect this from stuff like Ral Partha, but from GW of all things....
As for the release, it worries me that they only showed couple of the kits. I really hope we will get all them ASAP. This is effective a launch of fully new army, many people don't have metal SoB and are starting from scratch, so it will be annoying if you can't purchase all the models. And personally I won't be getting any more of them until the Repentias are available, as I want to give my PA Sisters some Repentia heads.
GW dropped pretty much the whole of Ossiarch Bonereapers on one weekend. Two weeks and they can have most of the Sisters of Battle out and on the market, excluding perhaps one or two that they will randomly hold at ransom for a year
It was around 10 kits on one weekend, with 3 or so the week before (which also had the battletome, cards etc..). I'd wager GW could easily do Sisters of Battle over 2 weekends with a big release on both.
Honestly don't look like nuns.
I mean, here we are all influenced because we know the lore. But show this to someone who doesn't know the lore and ask them to describe:
Spoiler:
I'm personally betting you'll never never hear the word nun, ever.
Overread wrote: It was around 10 kits on one weekend, with 3 or so the week before (which also had the battletome, cards etc..). I'd wager GW could easily do Sisters of Battle over 2 weekends with a big release on both.
Yes they could but do they. If GW hadn't specifically said "sometime next year" with seraphim that would be reasonable expectation but also keep in mind GW has history of dragging releases and keeping stuff for multiple months away. They haven't said specifically that these comes in january so for sure we know only that they come now within 3 months but whether it's preorder next week or preorder 3 months later is guess work.
As for the release, it worries me that they only showed couple of the kits. I really hope we will get all them ASAP. This is effective a launch of fully new army, many people don't have metal SoB and are starting from scratch, so it will be annoying if you can't purchase all the models. And personally I won't be getting any more of them until the Repentias are available, as I want to give my PA Sisters some Repentia heads.
They’ve just shown the kits today that we hadn’t seen before. They’ve shown everything else already.
The battle sanctum confuses me. The wall looks like it's a false front for a Hollywood set. And an eggshell, for some reason.
The statue is fine, but I'm not getting 'sanctum' out of the piece. Just another random imperial ruin
As for the rest of the lineup- retributors are fine (exactly as expected), flagellants still seem too non-threatening (being battered by a short length of cable seems... tame for the setting), zephyrim are boring (partly the flight stand) and the mortifier is an even uglier, overdesigned version of the existing power suit.
I'm bummed at the extra spiky trim on the Zephyrim jump packs... I cant imagine there are two full sets of packs in a dual kit, but maybe there are. A dual kit sure seems like the obvious choice. I was intending to modify the five Seraphim from the army box into Zephyrim and have them join the two Geminae I never use for a total of 7 before the kit even drops, but now it seems they may not be mix and match? I assume future Seraphim kits will at least match those in the army box.
Battle Sanctum is a little bland... I may build one to match my table in the same dimensions.
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: So, Eisenhorn, Damien 1427 and Artemis are now in 40k proper. Who's next? The current DCA already look quite similar to Severina an Sevora, but not identical.
Another Inquisitor, like Tyrus or Covenant? Barbaretta and her Cyber-Mastiff? Or Malicant? I'd love for a 28mm plastic Malicant to add to my sisters, along with a Frateris Militia/Redemptionist unit!
[edit]Or Quovandius lol[/edit]
I would love to see Covenant or Tyrus in 40k, but I think the Inquisitor train has sadly passed us by
MacPhail wrote: I'm bummed at the extra spiky trim on the Zephyrim jump packs... I cant imagine there are two full sets of packs in a dual kit, but maybe there are. A dual kit sure seems like the obvious choice. I was intending to modify the five Seraphim from the army box into Zephyrim and have them join the two Geminae I never use for a total of 7 before the kit even drops, but now it seems they may not be mix and match? I assume future Seraphim kits will at least match those in the army box.
Battle Sanctum is a little bland... I may build one to match my table in the same dimensions.
Otherwise, awesome models across the board!
There are 2 full sets - we’ve seen the Seraphim before and all 5 had jet packs without the extra bit the Zephyrim have.
Voss wrote: The battle sanctum confuses me. The wall looks like it's a false front for a Hollywood set. And an eggshell, for some reason.
The statue is fine, but I'm not getting 'sanctum' out of the piece. Just another random imperial ruin
I like it and I'll get one, but yeah, basically it's a statue with a formfitting ruin wrapping around it that restricts the terrain piece to the smallest possible footprint the humongous statue allows. Seems like an unconvincing compromise of being larger than is practical in game terms but less grand than it should be as a devotional piece of Imperial architecture.
I got a similar impression from the Genestealer drill, too. The main drill is really cool, but the rest of it is minimal and doesn't seem to complement to size and weight of the drill.
H.B.M.C. wrote: They're even the same bodies for crying out loud...
Yep. One kit for sure. It seems to me that the top parts of the 'wings' above the golden spheres might be separate pieces.
Could be. I still think the pipes of the packs are slightly more spread out on the Zephyrim ones but could be deceptive from the photos (or my eyes!). Either way, defo one kit.
Its your eyes and the angle. The zephs all hide the ribbed central area with their heads, but most of the sephs have the same two stage 'pipe' crossbeam.
Its just the difference isn't just the spiky bit. The cap over the orbs is wider on the sephs.
Voss wrote: Its your eyes and the angle. The zephs all hide the ribbed central area with their heads, but most of the sephs have the same two stage 'pipe' crossbeam.
Its just the difference isn't just the spiky bit. The cap over the orbs is wider on the sephs.
I don’t mean that, I mean the ‘feather’/exhaust parts of the wings. There seems to be more space between them towards the tips on the Zephyrim to the Seraphim. Pipes wasn’t a good word for it. The Zephyrim wings seem more open.
I'll be happy to be wrong about the spiked jet pack trim... if there's a box with inferno hands, flamer hands, sword hands, and both options for jet packs, then I'm a VERY happy modeller.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And, a spruce preview cant be far off now that we've seen the promo photos.
My immediate "want to know" is .. will the Battle Sanctum terrain line up with my Imperial Basilica terrain? I own like 3 of that kit, and more stuff to add there is .. drooling...
Since I did not have Arco's nor Penitent Engines in my all-metal sisters, I am certainly picking them up to add to my current army. I MIGHT get a box of the flying gals to add to my force as either heroes, or unit leaders
Lastly, if there is such a thing as Celestians in the new codex, I might get the new Troops to use as them..
I just cannot imagine I might rebuy troops and heavy weapons because I already got em..
I don’t mean that, I mean the ‘feather’/exhaust parts of the wings. There seems to be more space between them towards the tips on the Zephyrim to the Seraphim. Pipes wasn’t a good word for it. The Zephyrim wings seem more open.
porkuslime wrote: Lastly, if there is such a thing as Celestians in the new codex, I might get the new Troops to use as them..
I just cannot imagine I might rebuy troops and heavy weapons because I already got em..
Celestians are definately a thing. The multipart Battle Sisters box includes special Celestian Helmets for them. They also re-roll all Hit Rolls when within 6" of an <<Order>> Cannoness. At one point more per model than Battle Sisters, I imagine they aren't totally bad.
porkuslime wrote: Lastly, if there is such a thing as Celestians in the new codex, I might get the new Troops to use as them..
I just cannot imagine I might rebuy troops and heavy weapons because I already got em..
Celestians are definately a thing. The multipart Battle Sisters box includes special Celestian Helmets for them. They also re-roll all Hit Rolls when within 6" of an <<Order>> Cannoness. At one point more per model than Battle Sisters, I imagine they aren't totally bad.
in my own personal thinking, Celestians being bigger and beefier KINDA works and I can rationalize that.. plus they are more "dynamically posed" than my metal gals, so, that helps in thinking they are "special"
porkuslime wrote: Lastly, if there is such a thing as Celestians in the new codex, I might get the new Troops to use as them..
I just cannot imagine I might rebuy troops and heavy weapons because I already got em..
Celestians are definately a thing. The multipart Battle Sisters box includes special Celestian Helmets for them. They also re-roll all Hit Rolls when within 6" of an <<Order>> Cannoness. At one point more per model than Battle Sisters, I imagine they aren't totally bad.
Also extra WS, attack, LD and body guard. Only reason I don't spam celestians rather than BSS is they are elite and I already will need minimum 6 squads of battle sisters.
alextroy wrote: They also re-roll all Hit Rolls when within 6" of an <<Order>> Cannoness. At one point more per model than Battle Sisters, I imagine they aren't totally bad.
They also got a stratagem to reroll to hit and to wound, but it's a bit expensive at 2CP when you already reroll to hit anyway…
I feel like the only person who doesn't like Celestians at all. They don't seem to have decent enough weapons to benefit from rerolling all hits and their better stats aren't better in ways I care about for Sisters.
I'd says Celetians are not bad as opposed to great. The do seem to be a nice basis for some buff stacking:
Celetians
Canoness
Imagifier
Priest
Bloody Rose
They are now 4 S4 AP -1 Attacks per model that Re-roll all To Hit Rolls along with Rerolling all Shooting Hit Rolls. And every buff there works on multiple units at the same time.
pm713 wrote: I feel like the only person who doesn't like Celestians at all. They don't seem to have decent enough weapons to benefit from rerolling all hits and their better stats aren't better in ways I care about for Sisters.
I just think they're just a bit boring. They're just better normal sisters. I hoped that they would have used this opportunity to make them more distinct.
pm713 wrote: I feel like the only person who doesn't like Celestians at all. They don't seem to have decent enough weapons to benefit from rerolling all hits and their better stats aren't better in ways I care about for Sisters.
I just think they're just a bit boring. They're just better normal sisters. I hoped that they would have used this opportunity to make them more distinct.
The major benefit you gain from Celestines are as bodyguards for your characters (Imagifiers, Canoness, etc...) I have 2 min squads in my army just to help keep them alive and a Hospitalier thrown in to keep them at full strength.
pm713 wrote: I feel like the only person who doesn't like Celestians at all. They don't seem to have decent enough weapons to benefit from rerolling all hits and their better stats aren't better in ways I care about for Sisters.
I just think they're just a bit boring. They're just better normal sisters. I hoped that they would have used this opportunity to make them more distinct.
The major benefit you gain from Celestines are as bodyguards for your characters (Imagifiers, Canoness, etc...) I have 2 min squads in my army just to help keep them alive and a Hospitalier thrown in to keep them at full strength.
With the character rules as they are I don't think they need bodyguards. I can keep characters just as safe with things like Dominions who I can give good weapons to.
I'm really glad I didn't spend $45 on ebay just to pick up a solo PE since they'll come in units of 2 and probably cost the same. Unless they pull an Armiger and charge $70 for them.
It's nice that the Mortifactor has at least three pilot body options. Regular body, half an iron maiden, and Harlequin.
pm713 wrote: I feel like the only person who doesn't like Celestians at all. They don't seem to have decent enough weapons to benefit from rerolling all hits and their better stats aren't better in ways I care about for Sisters.
I just think they're just a bit boring. They're just better normal sisters. I hoped that they would have used this opportunity to make them more distinct.
The major benefit you gain from Celestines are as bodyguards for your characters (Imagifiers, Canoness, etc...) I have 2 min squads in my army just to help keep them alive and a Hospitalier thrown in to keep them at full strength.
With the character rules as they are I don't think they need bodyguards. I can keep characters just as safe with things like Dominions who I can give good weapons to.
You've obviously not met Eliminators on the table yet
pm713 wrote: I feel like the only person who doesn't like Celestians at all. They don't seem to have decent enough weapons to benefit from rerolling all hits and their better stats aren't better in ways I care about for Sisters.
I just think they're just a bit boring. They're just better normal sisters. I hoped that they would have used this opportunity to make them more distinct.
The major benefit you gain from Celestines are as bodyguards for your characters (Imagifiers, Canoness, etc...) I have 2 min squads in my army just to help keep them alive and a Hospitalier thrown in to keep them at full strength.
With the character rules as they are I don't think they need bodyguards. I can keep characters just as safe with things like Dominions who I can give good weapons to.
You've obviously not met Eliminators on the table yet
Admittedly that's true. Everyone I play with hates Primaris as much as me so I never have to worry about them.
Have we already talked about Junith Eruita' alternate head option?
I kinda like this head but it would look better on a fully cloaked body like the sisters on the Triumph of St. Katherine. I may have to swap her out for a different model.
I'm so sad that this model is faction locked. They really messed up by not giving us a generic battle pulpit option, and it is weird to have alternate head for a special character.
Crimson wrote: I'm so sad that this model is faction locked. They really messed up by not giving us a generic battle pulpit option, and it is weird to have alternate head for a special character.
agreed. sisters really needed some additional HQ choices too. I think some sort of Chaplain equivilant would be an great idea.
If GW assigned me to write a new sisters book and put in some additional HQs I;d do a Leuitenant equivilant called a Prioress, and a something similer to a chaplain called "Choir Superior" or something.
Crimson wrote: I'm so sad that this model is faction locked. They really messed up by not giving us a generic battle pulpit option, and it is weird to have alternate head for a special character.
agreed. sisters really needed some additional HQ choices too. I think some sort of Chaplain equivilant would be an great idea.
If GW assigned me to write a new sisters book and put in some additional HQs I;d do a Leuitenant equivilant called a Prioress, and a something similer to a chaplain called "Choir Superior" or something.
Junith bugged me from the start for not being more like a Catacomb command barge equivalent, but for sisters. they called junith a centerpiece, AND missed out on jetpacks while reducing canoness range options. they really went the distance here.
gonna point out here though, if you look at the old sister chain of command, a Prioress would actually rank higher than a Canoness (and last i checked there was several Canoness subranks). if you wanted a lesser Canoness, you would want a Palatine, something else id been asking for as well.
Wouldnt be interested in a chaplain equivalent, but dressing up something about choirs and singing does add up well to the sisters theme in my mind at least. not sure what you'd name them at this point though...
Crimson wrote: I'm so sad that this model is faction locked. They really messed up by not giving us a generic battle pulpit option, and it is weird to have alternate head for a special character.
agreed. sisters really needed some additional HQ choices too. I think some sort of Chaplain equivilant would be an great idea.
If GW assigned me to write a new sisters book and put in some additional HQs I;d do a Leuitenant equivilant called a Prioress, and a something similer to a chaplain called "Choir Superior" or something.
They used to have that in the "WitchHunters" codex. You had the HQ choice of "Adepta Sororitias Heroine" that has 2 options of Canoness or Palatine, with Palatine being 10pts cheaper for -1W, -1A, -1Ld, and 1 few Faith Points added. I've named by 2nd Canoness in my list that has "Heroine in the Making" as a Palatine just for personal fluff.
*edit, was said above before me*
But I agree that they should have included the options for other HQ ranks. In older fluff there were also different levels of Canonesses based upon the number of sisters they commanded. Going from high to low you had Canoness Superior, Canoness Preceptor, Canoness Commander, Palatine (Codex Witchhunters Pg 11)
Crimson wrote: I'm so sad that this model is faction locked. They really messed up by not giving us a generic battle pulpit option, and it is weird to have alternate head for a special character.
agreed. sisters really needed some additional HQ choices too. I think some sort of Chaplain equivilant would be an great idea.
If GW assigned me to write a new sisters book and put in some additional HQs I;d do a Leuitenant equivilant called a Prioress, and a something similer to a chaplain called "Choir Superior" or something.
They used to have that in the "WitchHunters" codex. You had the HQ choice of "Adepta Sororitias Heroine" that has 2 options of Canoness or Palatine, with Palatine being 10pts cheaper for -1W, -1A, -1Ld, and 1 few Faith Points added. I've named by 2nd Canoness in my list that has "Heroine in the Making" as a Palatine just for personal fluff.
*edit, was said above before me*
But I agree that they should have included the options for other HQ ranks. In older fluff there were also different levels of Canonesses based upon the number of sisters they commanded. Going from high to low you had Canoness Superior, Canoness Preceptor, Canoness Commander, Palatine (Codex Witchhunters Pg 11)
Still the same. Abbess Sanctorum at the very top (well, after the Emperor), then the Prioress, followed by the list you gave. It doesn't seem unreasonable to have the lowest three ranks on the tabletop; or more, given that Guilliman, Phoenix Lords and the likes are also available as playable characters.
If they decided to design a spare head for Junith, there is even less reason for them not to have made her pulpit thing available as an option for a generic Canoness (or other rank/role) build. Once she's released, the only thing stopping me from getting her is the fact that I'm not going for an Order of Our Martyred Lady army. And it's not like the OoOML was lacking characters otherwise.
AAAAAGH! They are going for slow-burn it seems. Codex, card, dices, batle sister box, retribution box, the triumph and no mention of others. Not even HQ.
Better than nothing but waaaay less than I expected. Wasn't expecting full 16 kits but at least something like 8 at least. As it is unlikely this will be 2 week release and will take more than that. Which might not be even successive ones. Some could be february/march releases.
But let's see. We need: Canoness, triumph, the big flying thing, sister box, retribution box, rhino, immolator, exorcist, arco flagelant, doalogue, hospitaler, imagifier, repentia, seraphim, penitent engine, the terrain piece. That's 16 kits. So yeah 16 right there. Then there's the missionary, preacher, death cult assasins etc but I ifigure those will stay finecast/metal.
Or do you really think GW will put entry to codex leaving it without model?-)
The chapter locked special character whose name I can't recall as I don't plan to play martyr ladies all that much so have no interest in buying special character I can't even use much.
But the one in big floating eagle statue with some multi meltas at the bottom.
AAAAAGH! They are going for slow-burn it seems. Codex, card, dices, batle sister box, retribution box, the triumph and no mention of others. Not even HQ.
*Sigh* This is annoying. Well, I wont be buying anything until they release the Repentia as I need spare Repentia heads for other kits.
Ah well. This is slightly annoying. Was hoping to get playable 2k force without allies ASAP but looks like come february I'm STILL going to be missing units. In fact wouldn't surprise me if something comes in march. Good news that's latest anything should be coming
Ah well. 4 sister box, 2 retribution boxes and dices if I get lucky are coming up.
Really surprised not even basic HQ was put in. I would have expected the core HQ to be at least in first week but guess GW doesn't believe giving in legal battallion week 1...
bullyboy wrote: sorry if this is common knowledge, but are all the vehicles separate kits or you build all 3 from one kit?
That's the ? yeah but what we can tell 95% sure is that exorcist/immolator and rhino are different kits. The rhino is mars pattern, the other 2 are deimos pattern. Whole different pattern of hull. I can't see them doing that much alternative parts to one box.
Exorcist and immolators MIGHT be shared box but...That still feels too much alternative parts. Would expect solo kits but if any vehicles share kits it's those 2.
tneva82 wrote: The chapter locked special character whose name I can't recall as I don't plan to play martyr ladies all that much so have no interest in buying special character I can't even use much.
But the one in big floating eagle statue with some multi meltas at the bottom.
Ah cheers. It's not all that big so I got confused. Was hoping for some unseen crazy flying cathedral thing.
Just a point but when GW released Ossiarchs they released very little in the first week. It was the second week where they dropped almost the entire army worth of models in one go. They might be doing the same for Sisters. Release a few core units and a big showcase (ergo you are guaranteed to get some sisters of battle regular troops and if you want that big display model you're getting it as soon as you can). Then in the second week release the rest, giving gamers a week to read their codex and make choices on units that are not "core" to the army.
In fact if I recall right they didn't actually release any models in the first week save for the Feast of Bones boxed set. The rest was terrain, endless spells, dice, cards, battletome. It was the second week that they dropped almost the entire range worth of models (basically everything except the duel army box unique model)
Togusa wrote: What is with GWs obsession with printing faction dice that aren't readable? These are some of the absolute worst ones yet.
Faction dice are silly anyway. But I guess these would make nice miracle dice, you don't roll those in large numbers, so quick readability is not super important.
Overread wrote: Just a point but when GW released Ossiarchs they released very little in the first week. It was the second week where they dropped almost the entire army worth of models in one go. They might be doing the same for Sisters. Release a few core units and a big showcase (ergo you are guaranteed to get some sisters of battle regular troops and if you want that big display model you're getting it as soon as you can). Then in the second week release the rest, giving gamers a week to read their codex and make choices on units that are not "core" to the army.
In fact if I recall right they didn't actually release any models in the first week save for the Feast of Bones boxed set. The rest was terrain, endless spells, dice, cards, battletome. It was the second week that they dropped almost the entire range worth of models (basically everything except the duel army box unique model)
Hopefully you are right!
Though there's still that "sometime next year" for seraphim which indicates non-january for them. And unlikely to be only one that would get delayed. So hopefully next week is like 10 kits more leaving 3(including seraphim) for later release.
Togusa wrote: What is with GWs obsession with printing faction dice that aren't readable? These are some of the absolute worst ones yet.
Faction dice are silly anyway. But I guess these would make nice miracle dice, you don't roll those in large numbers, so quick readability is not super important.
Furthermore you don't really WANT to roll that unreadable ones so you are less likely to accidentally pick them up for your next dice roll thus deleting your MD!
They are probably going to release all the boxes over the next couple of weeks, no? They usually do slow burns for big release that take a month or so.
Hopefully they include a start collecting set with a Canoness, a BSS and some Seraphim/Zephyrims.
Crazyterran wrote: They are probably going to release all the boxes over the next couple of weeks, no? They usually do slow burns for big release that take a month or so.
Hopefully they include a start collecting set with a Canoness, a BSS and some Seraphim/Zephyrims.
When, in the entire history of GW, have they released a start collecting box alongside and initial push of a new faction?
Crazyterran wrote: They are probably going to release all the boxes over the next couple of weeks, no? They usually do slow burns for big release that take a month or so.
Hopefully they include a start collecting set with a Canoness, a BSS and some Seraphim/Zephyrims.
There won’t be a Start Collecting with new kits with the release. It’ll be a year or so later (or not, in the case of GSC who are still waiting).
Overread wrote: Just a point but when GW released Ossiarchs they released very little in the first week. It was the second week where they dropped almost the entire army worth of models in one go. They might be doing the same for Sisters. Release a few core units and a big showcase (ergo you are guaranteed to get some sisters of battle regular troops and if you want that big display model you're getting it as soon as you can). Then in the second week release the rest, giving gamers a week to read their codex and make choices on units that are not "core" to the army.
In fact if I recall right they didn't actually release any models in the first week save for the Feast of Bones boxed set. The rest was terrain, endless spells, dice, cards, battletome. It was the second week that they dropped almost the entire range worth of models (basically everything except the duel army box unique model)
Hopefully you are right!
Though there's still that "sometime next year" for seraphim which indicates non-january for them. And unlikely to be only one that would get delayed. So hopefully next week is like 10 kits more leaving 3(including seraphim) for later release.
Where is this ‘sometime in 2020’ thing you keep quoting from?
Crazyterran wrote: They are probably going to release all the boxes over the next couple of weeks, no? They usually do slow burns for big release that take a month or so.
Hopefully they include a start collecting set with a Canoness, a BSS and some Seraphim/Zephyrims.
There won’t be a Start Collecting with new kits with the release. It’ll be a year or so later (or not, in the case of GSC who are still waiting).
Overread wrote: Just a point but when GW released Ossiarchs they released very little in the first week. It was the second week where they dropped almost the entire army worth of models in one go. They might be doing the same for Sisters. Release a few core units and a big showcase (ergo you are guaranteed to get some sisters of battle regular troops and if you want that big display model you're getting it as soon as you can). Then in the second week release the rest, giving gamers a week to read their codex and make choices on units that are not "core" to the army.
In fact if I recall right they didn't actually release any models in the first week save for the Feast of Bones boxed set. The rest was terrain, endless spells, dice, cards, battletome. It was the second week that they dropped almost the entire range worth of models (basically everything except the duel army box unique model)
Hopefully you are right!
Though there's still that "sometime next year" for seraphim which indicates non-january for them. And unlikely to be only one that would get delayed. So hopefully next week is like 10 kits more leaving 3(including seraphim) for later release.
Where is this ‘sometime in 2020’ thing you keep quoting from?
In one of the event announcements on WarCom. (Much like the PA books and 'a character' that people seem determined to ignore)
Though given this week is all of three kits, anyone expecting 10 kits next week is setting themselves up for disappointment.
Togusa wrote: What is with GWs obsession with printing faction dice that aren't readable? These are some of the absolute worst ones yet.
I don't understand why they keep making multiple faces have special symbols. It makes everything so much harder.
I liked the design itself and did think of getting them as miracle dice; but blimey these are a pain actually. The five is the four with a little pip in the centre, and where multiple fleurs-de-lys indicate the numbers, the single fleur is of course meant to represent 6, because it's a bigger. Well, at least that means I don't have to refresh the webstore intensively come release morning...
Well those new faction dices are a little too plain, quite the opposite of the actual miracle dices from the faction box, that were a little bit too custom and not really legible! GW don't do no middle ground lol!
Sersi wrote: Have we already talked about Junith Eruita' alternate head option?
Well that's… certainly interesting. I think I will use this one head, I'd like to see it painted!
Sotahullu wrote: So they just decided to cut open their saint and display her organs to all to see. Lovely.
Hopefully they did that after she died. Never know with these fanatics around.
Hello yes I heard you asked for a healthy dose of CATHOLICISM did you know they eat their god all the time? Catholics are provably making the most 40k places in the world. NSFW:
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Catholics manage to make reality stranger and more extreme than fiction, even when said fiction is as over the top as 40k is
Coenus Scaldingus wrote: The five is the four with a little pip in the centre, and where multiple fleurs-de-lys indicate the numbers, the single fleur is of course meant to represent 6, because it's a bigger.
How do you know? Maybe it is one and the skull is six? Who knows? Maybe you can decide after you rolled?
AAAAAGH! They are going for slow-burn it seems. Codex, card, dices, batle sister box, retribution box, the triumph and no mention of others. Not even HQ.
The Triumph is an HQ, available for all orders. You need to buy it. Now.
Well, I guess most Battle Sisters players own either the new Canoness from the box, Celestine or Veridyan. So they should survive a week or a month.
The likely Community posting in question does not say "sometime in 2020".
Keep going down, below the repentia pictures:
Packed with dynamic poses and plenty of options for customisation, this set will be great for fleshing out your Repentia squads – and flensing the flesh from your enemies! Look out for these sometime next year.
So, yes, it does say sometime in [2020]
Then there was the Warhammer 40,000 Open Day which flatout said in reference to the revealed units in the video:
You won’t even have long to wait – you’ll be able to get ahold of all of these stunning new units early next year.
But pay attention to which ones are actually reveal in the video, and which are just the monopose from the army set. That seems relevant.
AAAAAGH! They are going for slow-burn it seems. Codex, card, dices, batle sister box, retribution box, the triumph and no mention of others. Not even HQ.
The Triumph is an HQ, available for all orders. You need to buy it. Now.
Well, I guess most Battle Sisters players own either the new Canoness from the box, Celestine or Veridyan. So they should survive a week or a month.
Well meant more of generic HQ.
And def not buying triumph for now. a) she needs actual army around her to be worth it. Ergo with no army to buy yet and just some units not good idea b) the model seems nightmare to paint without sub-painting. Ergo can't really play with her before completely painted. Which means if I don't start painting right away it's kind of waste of purchase. If I paint first it's going to take a long while and not be all that good core unit to have.
Out of all the models in the army that I could use(not counting the order locked character) it's among last ones I ones I would pick up before I have playable army painted up
Do get it eventually though. Just not before I have actual 2k+ sisters painted up.
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H.B.M.C. wrote: Really looking forward to seeing if that gets fixed in the full Codex release.
Well guess since full codex heralds FAQ you could say so. Though how is another question. Scary possibility is they add her into legend file...
It all really depends on the pricing($€£¥) for the different boxes. If they're priced like Admech, cool. If they're priced like primaris...not so much. P-engines 2 to a box is cool but hopefully not too expensive. arcos should be "cheap"($€£¥ wise).
I'm looking forward to painting the exorcist, immolator, & triumph. Unfortunately they'll require a fair amount of detail work to represent how they lovingly mastercraft everything.
Guess this will be a painting project before it's a playable army for a while. the boxed set has been fun to paint so far & cant wait for more variants to do.
Out of all the models in the army that I could use(not counting the order locked character) it's among last ones I ones I would pick up before I have playable army painted up
Do get it eventually though. Just not before I have actual 2k+ sisters painted up.
While I bought the box I don't have any plans to start an army. It's enough for Kill Team or some Necromunda scenario and with this in mind I'll get Arco Flagellants and maybe Repentia for some conversions. And the Triumph. Why? The individual models are just ace. The kit is (for me) a great loot box.
Crazyterran wrote: They are probably going to release all the boxes over the next couple of weeks, no? They usually do slow burns for big release that take a month or so.
Hopefully they include a start collecting set with a Canoness, a BSS and some Seraphim/Zephyrims.
When, in the entire history of GW, have they released a start collecting box alongside and initial push of a new faction?
Slaves to Darkness?
Okay, they weren't 'new' per say, but in the time of AoS they'd never been a functionally proper army with a 'dex and true support.
Also I'm willing to bet the Army Box's mono pose kits will just end up being what's in the Start Collecting anyway. They'd not make those extremely expensive moulds and do such a limited print-run.
Crazyterran wrote: They are probably going to release all the boxes over the next couple of weeks, no? They usually do slow burns for big release that take a month or so.
Hopefully they include a start collecting set with a Canoness, a BSS and some Seraphim/Zephyrims.
When, in the entire history of GW, have they released a start collecting box alongside and initial push of a new faction?
Slaves to Darkness?
Okay, they weren't 'new' per say, but in the time of AoS they'd never been a functionally proper army with a 'dex and true support.
Also I'm willing to bet the Army Box's mono pose kits will just end up being what's in the Start Collecting anyway. They'd not make those extremely expensive moulds and do such a limited print-run.
slavesd to darkness though didn't get anything else, there was no say... wave of new chaos warrior kits released around the same time.
Crazyterran wrote: They are probably going to release all the boxes over the next couple of weeks, no? They usually do slow burns for big release that take a month or so.
Hopefully they include a start collecting set with a Canoness, a BSS and some Seraphim/Zephyrims.
When, in the entire history of GW, have they released a start collecting box alongside and initial push of a new faction?
Slaves to Darkness?
Okay, they weren't 'new' per say, but in the time of AoS they'd never been a functionally proper army with a 'dex and true support.
Also I'm willing to bet the Army Box's mono pose kits will just end up being what's in the Start Collecting anyway. They'd not make those extremely expensive moulds and do such a limited print-run.
They had allegiance abilities and plastic models. They were a complete, if under supported army. They even had NEW plastics like Archaon and Varanguard for years. They also ALREADY had a SC! box. It's not really comparable.
the SoB box includes 1 HQ, 1 unit of troops. 1 fast attack, 1 elites and 2 heavy support, that's a bit much for a SC box, on the other hand it'd be a great starter box for a new sisters player. heck the monopose options aren't even all that bad (flamer and storm bolter makes for a decent close range support squad) drop the codex and cards from it and you can proably cut it down to maybe 120 USDs (remember the codex is a CE codex)
BrianDavion wrote: the SoB box includes 1 HQ, 1 unit of troops. 1 fast attack, 1 elites and 2 heavy support, that's a bit much for a SC box, on the other hand it'd be a great starter box for a new sisters player. heck the monopose options aren't even all that bad (flamer and storm bolter makes for a decent close range support squad) drop the codex and cards from it and you can proably cut it down to maybe 120 USDs (remember the codex is a CE codex)
The fact they're a mono pose fixed sprue ala shadowspear fits with idea that it could become a start collecting box in the future. They'll get all they can from those molds.
BrianDavion wrote: the SoB box includes 1 HQ, 1 unit of troops. 1 fast attack, 1 elites and 2 heavy support, that's a bit much for a SC box, on the other hand it'd be a great starter box for a new sisters player. heck the monopose options aren't even all that bad (flamer and storm bolter makes for a decent close range support squad) drop the codex and cards from it and you can proably cut it down to maybe 120 USDs (remember the codex is a CE codex)
The fact they're a mono pose fixed sprue ala shadowspear fits with idea that it could become a start collecting box in the future. They'll get all they can from those molds.
yeah it's a bit odd, I was looking at my sprues and aside from removing the canonness there's no real way they can downsize it for a more normal SC box too. they all share sprues.
Out of all the models in the army that I could use(not counting the order locked character) it's among last ones I ones I would pick up before I have playable army painted up
Do get it eventually though. Just not before I have actual 2k+ sisters painted up.
While I bought the box I don't have any plans to start an army. It's enough for Kill Team or some Necromunda scenario and with this in mind I'll get Arco Flagellants and maybe Repentia for some conversions. And the Triumph. Why? The individual models are just ace. The kit is (for me) a great loot box.
The box is nice yes and come around march/april i'm sure i'm getting one. Just the one kit i would not have hoped for 1st week release. The canoness box would have been so much more flexible. And doesn't take like 2 weeks to paint
yeah proably which means what 100 bucks USD? (and 130 in Canadian funny money) course this being 40K I expect us to pay a bit more so... I figure the triumph'll be 150 canadian bucks.
Luckly for me it's not something I plan on using inb my list (although I wanna snag one to paint up for my display case)
H.B.M.C. wrote: I expect it to be Black Coach-level pricing.
the coach and Katakros are roughly the same price (coach is ten bucks Canadian more) so yeah somewhere in that ballpark as I said I expect the triumph might be a little more pricy so I'm figuring 150 Canabucks, if it's cheaper hey I'm pleasently suprised.
xttz wrote: How much of the new codex is covered by existing models? Celestine is an obvious one, but what about the random stuff like Preachers?
almost none, even among the existing mini's only celestine is really a modern mini, preachers/missionaries and the other eclissiarchy stuff likely won't see an update but they're all old finecast models that could conceviably be updated
Warhammer Community wrote:The Battle Sisters and Retributors kits were among the first steps towards that end, as they enable you to assemble units of Battle Sisters, Celestians, Dominions and Retributors with all of their respective weapon options.
Didn't the leaked sprue pics show that the Battle Sisters Squad didn't come with a multi-melta (or are they claiming both kits combined cover all options)?
Warhammer Community wrote:The Battle Sisters and Retributors kits were among the first steps towards that end, as they enable you to assemble units of Battle Sisters, Celestians, Dominions and Retributors with all of their respective weapon options.
Didn't the leaked sprue pics show that the Battle Sisters Squad didn't come with a multi-melta (or are they claiming both kits combined cover all options)?
That's exactly what it seems to be implying.
Just a slight bit down from your pulled quote:
Joe Tomaszewski: That’s right, I worked with Israel Gonzalez (who designed the Retributors kit) to make sure that both sets complemented each other. This went all the way from making the torsos, heads and weapon arms as interchangeable as possible to ensuring that all of the weapon options available to each unit were covered. For example, the multi-melta from the Retributors kit can fit on some of the standard Battle Sister torsos, so you can give the squad some anti-tank capability. The same applies to the various Superiors for each unit, we wanted to include the huge variety of wargear available to them.
Given that the sprue shown is for 3 out of the 10 Battle Sisters in a box and it has four special weapons(2 meltaguns and 2 flamers) alongside of the Simulacrum Imperialis? I think these sprues might be kinda packed.
I'll probably get a box of Sisters to start with, maybe some more Arcos since they're cheap (points) and easy to paint. Want the Triumph, but I'm in no rush. We'll see how the prices are and how my wallet is holding up. Gonna need a few BSS boxes, but one will let me fill out 3 Troops and use the left over 5 as a specialist squad (4 Storm Bolter Ret squad maybe?) and add to the army later.
I'm looking forward to the characters getting released, I definitely want some of them. Imagifiers are going to take up a couple of Elites slots. Not too concerned by more HQs right now, got the Canoness from the box, and Tad McPurity from BSF. Could use 5 more Repentia, but since I imagine they'll be a box of 10 so I am looking at 3rd party sources for some.
Warhammer Community wrote:The Battle Sisters and Retributors kits were among the first steps towards that end, as they enable you to assemble units of Battle Sisters, Celestians, Dominions and Retributors with all of their respective weapon options.
Didn't the leaked sprue pics show that the Battle Sisters Squad didn't come with a multi-melta (or are they claiming both kits combined cover all options)?
I read that as together the 2 box allow to do that. Ergo since you can swap heavy weapons around betwen kits you have all the options. Unusual move for GW(standard would be no multi melta for basic squads with this kit spread).
32.5£ for retribution, 35£ for basic squad and was it 60£ for triumph. No happy surprise on prices. Ah well. 4 basic squads and 2 retribution boxes it is.
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So there appears to be two meltas, two flamers and two storm bolters for the regular Sister kit. Finger's crossed that the two Sisters on that same section of sprue aren't the only two that have compatible sets of arms.
Oh and Warhammer 40k facebook team replied to my comment saying 2 of each heavy weapons in retribution box. Good good. Was somewhat worried heavy weapons are just what is shown but there's some spares. 2 boxes will give me enough to start with. More in future
Why exactly did you ask?
The sprue that is shown off on the Community Page is one Retributor sprue, like the Battle Sisters. It looks like they went the Havoc route, and it will probably be 3 sprues broken down into something similar to this:
-Superior with her options and One Retributor(the sprue we saw today)
-One sprue with one Retributor and the Cherubs
-One sprue with two Retributors
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xttz wrote: Didn't Deathcult Assassins get a new model in one of the recent Blackstone Fortress sets? Also there was a plastic Crusader too iirc.
Kill Team: Rogue Trader had the 'not Death Cult Assassin'.
The plastic Crusader can't be separated, as like all the Explorers for Blackstone Fortress he's on a shared frame.
Why? Because I didn't know. Simple enough. GW hadn't yet said anything and I figured asking is easier than squitting at the pictures for small pictures.
Hell even YOU don't obviously know the contents for sure seeing you say "probably". So if you don't know things for 100% why it's so weird that other would spend about 2 seconds asking question?
Critique people for asking when you have perfect knowledge yourself first.
tneva82 wrote: Why? Because I didn't know. Simple enough. GW hadn't yet said anything and I figured asking is easier than squitting at the pictures for small pictures.
Hell even YOU don't obviously know the contents for sure seeing you say "probably". So if you don't know things for 100% why it's so weird that other would spend about 2 seconds asking question?
Critique people for asking when you have perfect knowledge yourself first.
You can get snippy if you'd like, it was a fairly simple question. I personally find it "so weird" because, frankly, what did you expect them to do? Give you one set of guns to spread out across four models?
Even a cursory glance at this sprue image, which isn't small(unless you're looking on a phone I guess?) would suggest that the intention is to do something similar to what I suggested.
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The right-hand side is the Retributor. She has one each of the Multi-Melta, Heavy Bolter, and Heavy Flamer. Interestingly there's two 'standard' torsos on the standard Retributor's side(parts #44 are the 'generic' backplates and 45 and 46 are the fronts) and another leg set over on the Superior's side alongside of a torso front piece for one of the #44s(#47 in the lower left corner of the Superior's side), that isn't used in the shown Retributors image:
On my phone , so I can't really scan the sprue pics, but the finished models are awesome in the extreme. If those blurbs about interchangability and (head) options are true it'll be an great release compared to, say, Death Guard. If they fit Genestealer, AdMech and Necromunda guns scale-wise (they're pretty big gals, aye?), mmmhm
Don't know if it got mentioned earlier but prices are out Via Valrak and shared on War of Sigmar.
Using GW's conversion rate from their GBP prices:
Codex, etc standard prices.
Battle Sisters: 60USD(higher than I was hoping for but fair with how awesome the kit is.)
Retributors: 50USD(fine)
Dice: 35USD(blech)
Triumph: 110USD(Triple Blech)
So in line with similar models in other lines (10 man SM squads, Katakoras, Tzeentch dice) which unfortunately means we're unlikely to see many of the boxes come in at less than 50$ with the bigger kits like the battle sanctum, exorcists, and immolators in the 70-80$ range.
The price for St. Katherine just puts me right off getting one. Hopefully it won't be GW exclusive so theres a bit of a discount at third party retailers. The only models I really needed were the new stuff though.
Can you share examples of where 2 products X£ end up different $ amount? Don't recall at least on euro side though albeit haven't made extensive comparison.
Casbyness wrote: Dumb question since I lost track over Christmas - how many Multi-Meltas come with the Retributors set? Is it two? Or only one?
Sunday was the first time they showed the Ret kit at all.
Haven't seen any sprue pics yet. [Edit: no wait, there is a partial sprue in today's article, but some things are missing]
Its definitely at least two, since there are two in the photo.
It somewhat depends on how much space the flying dead babies are eating up on the sprue they didn't show off.
Casbyness wrote: Dumb question since I lost track over Christmas - how many Multi-Meltas come with the Retributors set? Is it two? Or only one?
Smart money says 4, one for each that a 'base' squad(1 Superior with a special loadout selection and 4 Retributors with heavies) can take.
I posted earlier, but they showed us what is likely sprue one out of three--assuming the Havocs are a good comparison(which I feel they are). This is the sprue in question that was shown:
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Note that the sprue is broken up into two halves: the right side is basically just the Superior's parts with a few bits being for heavy weapons(62, 58 for the Heavy Bolter and 65, 68 for the Heavy Flamer, 76 and 75 for the Multi-Melta) and an alternate set of legs for the Superior(39+40+41 from the Retributor's side) while the left side is for the Retributor. There is one set of legs(43+42) that look to go with parts #44+45 or 44+46 and the alternate set of Superior legs look to be able to take one of the 'generic' Retributor bodies if you want to go for a less preachy looking Superior.
The assumption I'm operating under(which we'll see how off the mark I might be on Friday when the NZ preorders go up!) is that sprue 2 will feature 2 Retributors with all their guns and gubbins while sprue 3 will feature the remaining leg set for the final Retributor, her guns, and the two Cherubs.
But that's all just speculation based upon the promo images they've given us of the Retributors not featuring that set of 39+40+41 legs.
Casbyness wrote: Dumb question since I lost track over Christmas - how many Multi-Meltas come with the Retributors set? Is it two? Or only one?
Smart money says 4, one for each that a 'base' squad(1 Superior with a special loadout selection and 4 Retributors with heavies) can take.
I posted earlier, but they showed us what is likely sprue one out of three--assuming the Havocs are a good comparison(which I feel they are). This is the sprue in question that was shown:
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Note that the sprue is broken up into two halves: the right side is basically just the Superior's parts with a few bits being for heavy weapons(62, 58 for the Heavy Bolter and 65, 68 for the Heavy Flamer, 76 and 75 for the Multi-Melta) and an alternate set of legs for the Superior(39+40+41 from the Retributor's side) while the left side is for the Retributor. There is one set of legs(43+42) that look to go with parts #44+45 or 44+46 and the alternate set of Superior legs look to be able to take one of the 'generic' Retributor bodies if you want to go for a less preachy looking Superior.
The assumption I'm operating under(which we'll see how off the mark I might be on Friday when the NZ preorders go up!) is that sprue 2 will feature 2 Retributors with all their guns and gubbins while sprue 3 will feature the remaining leg set for the final Retributor, her guns, and the two Cherubs.
But that's all just speculation based upon the promo images they've given us of the Retributors not featuring that set of 39+40+41 legs.
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Yeah I think the thing confusing me is how there can be two copies of the same sprue in the Retributor set when there's only one squad leader
It's 2 heavy weapons per box. Likely the box is 3 sprues. 1 that has 1 of each heavy weapon doubled up(so 2 per box) and 2 sisters and one sprue with leader(with bunch of weapon options) and 2 cherbubs+simulcraneum.
Yeah I think the thing confusing me is how there can be two copies of the same sprue in the Retributor set when there's only one squad leader
That sprue wouldn't be copied over.
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tneva82 wrote: It's 2 heavy weapons per box. Likely the box is 3 sprues. 1 that has 1 of each heavy weapon doubled up(so 2 per box) and 2 sisters and one sprue with leader(with bunch of weapon options) and 2 cherbubs+simulcraneum.
I don't know Sisters as well as anyone who got the codex might, but can the Retributors take a Simulacrum?
The battle sister squad sprue in particular has a pretty big chunk of empty space due to the way they decided to do the two reliquaries. The big gilt frame and cherub could have been jettisoned for a second smaller box (and skipped a second pole entirely).
This probably would have at least allowed a multi-melta in that box.
I don't know Sisters as well as anyone who got the codex might, but can the Retributors take a Simulacrum?
They can. A good thing there are two Simulacrum on the sprue the core battle sisters box. It's not a hazard if they are both available for pre-order this saturday, the kits are intended to work together to make the retributors a unit of 10 (and makes the Simulacrum more interesting).
The battle sister squad sprue in particular has a pretty big chunk of empty space due to the way they decided to do the two reliquaries. The big gilt frame and cherub could have been jettisoned for a second smaller box (and skipped a second pole entirely).
This probably would have at least allowed a multi-melta in that box.
Unless ther's banner in retribution box and even if yes prefer 2 in the box. You are building often MSU so 1 box needs to cover 2 squads anyway, variety and if retributions don't have banners you need to spread them around there as well.
The battle sister squad sprue in particular has a pretty big chunk of empty space due to the way they decided to do the two reliquaries. The big gilt frame and cherub could have been jettisoned for a second smaller box (and skipped a second pole entirely).
This probably would have at least allowed a multi-melta in that box.
Unless ther's banner in retribution box and even if yes prefer 2 in the box. You are building often MSU so 1 box needs to cover 2 squads anyway, variety and if retributions don't have banners you need to spread them around there as well.
I'm not saying they're shouldn't be two in the box. (literally not saying it, see the underlined bit). Just that the design they used for the second reliquary ate a lot of the layout- nearly a quarter of that frame. (or more if the panel with the hollow fleur (next to the wing) is part of that one). You've got at least a pole, two halves of the box, two halves of the frame and the wing with keys, just for a duplicate piece of kit. That's excessive, especially since it apparently required dropping a main weapon option from the kit. The arm w/ pole, box and an attachment platform for the box would've been sufficient, and freed up a large chunk of real estate.
Has there been any news regarding the release order of the sets after the battle sisters and Retributors?
I really need to do a deal with someone who likes the Sisters helmet head options and needs more of them. Between the limited set and this next wave I'm going to end up swimming in unused helmet heads, whilst scrounging around for the classic bobcut heads. I had to buy three packs of off-brand bobcut head sprues just to complete the contents of the limited set.
Casbyness wrote: Has there been any news regarding the release order of the sets after the battle sisters and Retributors?
I really need to do a deal with someone who likes the Sisters helmet head options and needs more of them. Between the limited set and this next wave I'm going to end up swimming in unused helmet heads, whilst scrounging around for the classic bobcut heads. I had to buy three packs of off-brand bobcut head sprues just to complete the contents of the limited set.
No, and there won’t be til next Sunday and we see what’s coming on the 18th.
The battle sister squad sprue in particular has a pretty big chunk of empty space due to the way they decided to do the two reliquaries. The big gilt frame and cherub could have been jettisoned for a second smaller box (and skipped a second pole entirely).
This probably would have at least allowed a multi-melta in that box.
You clearly weren’t assembling Cadians earlier tonight... comparison is staggering!
I like the Simulacrum with the open doors and the cherub. That's how I'm going to model mine.
Really loving the new sisters. They aren't cheap but cheaper than the metal versions GW's been selling, a lot easier to model and convert and you won't throw out your back lugging around a 2k plastic army like you would a metal one.
jivardi wrote: I like the Simulacrum with the open doors and the cherub. That's how I'm going to model mine.
Really loving the new sisters. They aren't cheap but cheaper than the metal versions GW's been selling, a lot easier to model and convert and you won't throw out your back lugging around a 2k plastic army like you would a metal one.
yeah, I do wish they where cheaper but their price is what GW's been charging for infantry squads, and you certainly can't argue with the value of the kit.
jivardi wrote: I like the Simulacrum with the open doors and the cherub. That's how I'm going to model mine.
Really loving the new sisters. They aren't cheap but cheaper than the metal versions GW's been selling, a lot easier to model and convert and you won't throw out your back lugging around a 2k plastic army like you would a metal one.
yeah, I do wish they where cheaper but their price is what GW's been charging for infantry squads, and you certainly can't argue with the value of the kit.
I don't think the kit has that much value though. I mean the sculpts are top notch for sure (some heads/faces are questionable though). But in terms of gameplay and the use you get out of ten battle sisters. You need like 3-4 boxes of these. Compared to 35 bucks for a blood bowl team that could last a lifetime. The value difference in terms of replay-ability, gameplay usage etc. GW has forever priced me out of starting a 40k army, that is for certain. A kill team I might be able to manage. And it's a shame cause ever since Dawn of War Soulstorm i've wanted sisters to get plastic models and an update. But now that it's finally here i'm kind of meh about it, my excitement has fizzled out. When you compare this 10 battle sisters in game value to say a box of german grenadiers, US paratroopers, or market garden british for bolt action, you can start an army with just one box of those for 30-45ish bucks and be able to play right away. The more I think about it none of the stuff GW sells for 40k has much value, not when the standard is 1500-2k points games.
jivardi wrote: I like the Simulacrum with the open doors and the cherub. That's how I'm going to model mine.
Really loving the new sisters. They aren't cheap but cheaper than the metal versions GW's been selling, a lot easier to model and convert and you won't throw out your back lugging around a 2k plastic army like you would a metal one.
yeah, I do wish they where cheaper but their price is what GW's been charging for infantry squads, and you certainly can't argue with the value of the kit.
I don't think the kit has that much value though. I mean the sculpts are top notch for sure (some heads/faces are questionable though). But in terms of gameplay and the use you get out of ten battle sisters. You need like 3-4 boxes of these. Compared to 35 bucks for a blood bowl team that could last a lifetime. The value difference in terms of replay-ability, gameplay usage etc. GW has forever priced me out of starting a 40k army, that is for certain. A kill team I might be able to manage. And it's a shame cause ever since Dawn of War Soulstorm i've wanted sisters to get plastic models and an update. But now that it's finally here i'm kind of meh about it, my excitement has fizzled out. When you compare this 10 battle sisters in game value to say a box of german grenadiers, US paratroopers, or market garden british for bolt action, you can start an army with just one box of those for 30-45ish bucks and be able to play right away. The more I think about it none of the stuff GW sells for 40k has much value, not when the standard is 1500-2k points games.
maybe but 40k has always been an expensive hobby to start and army for. So this is nothing new, if you where expecting 35 bucks a pack troop squads you where fooling yourself.
at least you get an aweful lot for your buck. compare these to the new CSM packs and yeah they come out looking pretty good.
jivardi wrote: I like the Simulacrum with the open doors and the cherub. That's how I'm going to model mine.
Really loving the new sisters. They aren't cheap but cheaper than the metal versions GW's been selling, a lot easier to model and convert and you won't throw out your back lugging around a 2k plastic army like you would a metal one.
yeah, I do wish they where cheaper but their price is what GW's been charging for infantry squads, and you certainly can't argue with the value of the kit.
I don't think the kit has that much value though. I mean the sculpts are top notch for sure (some heads/faces are questionable though). But in terms of gameplay and the use you get out of ten battle sisters. You need like 3-4 boxes of these. Compared to 35 bucks for a blood bowl team that could last a lifetime. The value difference in terms of replay-ability, gameplay usage etc. GW has forever priced me out of starting a 40k army, that is for certain. A kill team I might be able to manage. And it's a shame cause ever since Dawn of War Soulstorm i've wanted sisters to get plastic models and an update. But now that it's finally here i'm kind of meh about it, my excitement has fizzled out. When you compare this 10 battle sisters in game value to say a box of german grenadiers, US paratroopers, or market garden british for bolt action, you can start an army with just one box of those for 30-45ish bucks and be able to play right away. The more I think about it none of the stuff GW sells for 40k has much value, not when the standard is 1500-2k points games.
maybe but 40k has always been an expensive hobby to start and army for. So this is nothing new, if you where expecting 35 bucks a pack troop squads you where fooling yourself.
at least you get an aweful lot for your buck. compare these to the new CSM packs and yeah they come out looking pretty good.
It's hard, if you get more bits and spares in a box, it's valid that the price goes up slightly. However, by nature those are exactly that - spare, you might find a use for them one day but by default they are charging more for stuff you have no immediate use for.
How much is that flexibility and extra parts worth vs a barebones box of models with no options is the struggle.
ohh definatly, but as I said compare the Chaos Space Marine box to the SOB box (same price) and the sisters box is put together MUCH MUCH better.
now granted the sisters bix arguably needs to be, space marines have a lot of kits out there and it's pretty easy to raid a bits box for a CSM army, compared to sisters. (although I'm curious if you'd be able to fit skitarii arms onto sisters if you wanted, for some reason, to go with a older rifle look as opposed to the distinctive boltgun)
..of course these sisters are cheaper than the sculpts they asked 80 USD for on infantry. they had better have been for people to want to invest in the first place, because a hope of the redo was to cost less. but even if this is to be expected of them, I wouldn't recommend handwaving those annoyed by this.
i expected about 50-60, and i was about right unless they do something surprising. thing is, theres a LOT of extra bits in this run across models you may or may not use. for example, say you want less ornamentation than the bling button they went all for in your sisters. those extra bits on the exorcists and immolators would no doubt add up.
jivardi wrote: I like the Simulacrum with the open doors and the cherub. That's how I'm going to model mine.
Really loving the new sisters. They aren't cheap but cheaper than the metal versions GW's been selling, a lot easier to model and convert and you won't throw out your back lugging around a 2k plastic army like you would a metal one.
yeah, I do wish they where cheaper but their price is what GW's been charging for infantry squads, and you certainly can't argue with the value of the kit.
I don't think the kit has that much value though. I mean the sculpts are top notch for sure (some heads/faces are questionable though). But in terms of gameplay and the use you get out of ten battle sisters. You need like 3-4 boxes of these. Compared to 35 bucks for a blood bowl team that could last a lifetime. The value difference in terms of replay-ability, gameplay usage etc. GW has forever priced me out of starting a 40k army, that is for certain. A kill team I might be able to manage. And it's a shame cause ever since Dawn of War Soulstorm i've wanted sisters to get plastic models and an update. But now that it's finally here i'm kind of meh about it, my excitement has fizzled out. When you compare this 10 battle sisters in game value to say a box of german grenadiers, US paratroopers, or market garden british for bolt action, you can start an army with just one box of those for 30-45ish bucks and be able to play right away. The more I think about it none of the stuff GW sells for 40k has much value, not when the standard is 1500-2k points games.
if there are extra heads , arms and such you will be able to get aftermarket torsos and legs for cheap
Sarouan wrote: It's not a hazard if they are both available for pre-order this saturday
I think you mean "It's not by chance". Hazard means danger, not "hasard", fellow francophone .
Tangent: it actually does. Same origin and double meaning (actually triple- it can also mean 'guess'), though it is a little less common to use that way in English.
Sarouan wrote: It's not a hazard if they are both available for pre-order this saturday
I think you mean "It's not by chance". Hazard means danger, not "hasard", fellow francophone .
Tangent: it actually does. Same origin and double meaning (actually triple- it can also mean 'guess'), though it is a little less common to use that way in English.
It does? Then I present you my humblest apologies, Sarouan.
Element Games also now listing 140 copies with no discount, one per customer.
Wonder if GW looked down the back of a couch and found a bunch more boxes.
Shave £20 off it and put a regular edition codex in then I'd buy it, otherwise a bit much to drop in 1 go atm, will be grabbing a box of sisters though.
I know there are two variations of tops for the Simulacrum, but are there two poles in the box? Given how useful it is in game it'd be nice to be able to have one per squad if we're doing MSU.
craggy wrote: I know there are two variations of tops for the Simulacrum, but are there two poles in the box? Given how useful it is in game it'd be nice to be able to have one per squad if we're doing MSU.
craggy wrote: I know there are two variations of tops for the Simulacrum, but are there two poles in the box? Given how useful it is in game it'd be nice to be able to have one per squad if we're doing MSU.
Yeah. One of the tops is one piece with the pole.
Sweet. I was worried GW was going to be Very GW about it.
they won't have fixes in the codex that hits shelves it'll be the same as the CE one,. that said I imagine they've got a list of errata ready and they're just holding off to see if we catch anything more (or if we catch other chars with illegal gear)
Well ok, ordered one at a discount then. Nice to get it at all.
In all honesty now that I’ve seen the standard codex cover having the box include a codex with an uglier cover, and possibly with photos inside that don’t show most of the units (Will the standard codex have more photos because it isn’t trying to obscure future releases????) is a bit lame.
tneva82 wrote: Bah. It's the reqular codex that has boring cover. Starter set meanwhile is very evocative while not being overly busy.
I think I prefer the regular cover to my battle box one.
Heresy! Buuuuuurn!
*jk* But I love the box set one. In fact without that I might have been able to wait for starting sisters bit longer but as I love that cover and it was on limited edition box I just had to get the box while I had the chance. If didn't prefer this cover that much I cold have waited longer before starting sisters. First time cover of codex influenced my purchaces. Well it didn't make me start army(was planning anyway) but hastened it 6-12 months likely.
I think I'll try to exchange my Box codex with a regular one ^^. Not sure but if I find someone actively looking for the box cover I will definitely do!
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote: I think I'll try to exchange my Box codex with a regular one ^^. Not sure but if I find someone actively looking for the box cover I will definitely do!
Ooh, good idea. I’m not the most social person but I’ll see if I can make that work.
So one model fights, and the others pelt enemies with flowers and incense?
This would be an amazing diorama.
As a mass produced plastic kit, GW's taken all the craftsmanship out of somebody's big project, and made a weirdly impractical terrain piece instead of several options for canoness(es) and lieutenants.
Nice angle.
For collectors with bitz for games and conversions.
Can be a minor terrain piece or objective with some very cool figs.
If it is real I wonder at the pp ... 50euro?
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Wow.
H.B.M.C. wrote: I just want the Sisters that are in that kit, rather than the kit itself.
'Spose I can turn the body into an objective, and then base the others separately.
Yeah, I'm tempted to do the same. They'd make great character models. And considering how GW's character clampacks are priced it might be relatively cost-effective too.
changemod wrote: So hey if Celestine has the armour of st Katherine should I feel free to imagine these gals angrily shaking their fists at her as she flies past?
I was sort of wondering how the skeleton still had armor on.
Also, how do they have her heart? Unless they preserved it elsewhere, I'd kinda figure her heart would be gone by now, seeing as how she was a skeleton and all.
GaroRobe wrote: Also, how do they have her heart? Unless they preserved it elsewhere, I'd kinda figure her heart would be gone by now, seeing as how she was a skeleton and all.
If this didn't stop real-life catholic (look at the spoilered picture), no way it'll stop the 40k space catholics!
changemod wrote: So hey if Celestine has the armour of st Katherine should I feel free to imagine these gals angrily shaking their fists at her as she flies past?
I was sort of wondering how the skeleton still had armor on.
Also, how do they have her heart? Unless they preserved it elsewhere, I'd kinda figure her heart would be gone by now, seeing as how she was a skeleton and all.
It’s part of her legend that when she was exhumed (because her tomb was under threat or something) they found her heart perfectly preserved, just sitting there in her otherwise skeletonised body, a minor miracle of preservation.
The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
........... IT'S A MIRACLE!
in all seriousness though yeah, I mean the ecclisiarchy is intended to be a satire of the RCC and well.. plenty of stuff there about some of the sillyness with relics.
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Eh, who knows how those ‘juvenat’ treatments really work?
Besides, I’m pretty sure that’s a parody of a ‘real’ pair of relics that are both the skull of some saint, but I forget who.
I mean it’s not like there aren’t enough Nails from Jesus’s Hands and Fragments of the True Cross lying around to not just recreate all three crosses from the hill that day but also build a duplicate of Noah’s Ark…
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Fortunately, I have the Humble Bundle and I was able to track down the most sacred of artifacts, for those interested.
the tri-skull of saint uther Three skulls of Saint Uther the Cataplast, one at age twelve, one at age fifty, and one at age one hundred and fifty are surprisingly real relics. The first can be verified as Saint Uther’s with an Easy (+30) Medicae Test. The second bears markings suffered by Uther on behalf of an Ogryn who was protecting Lord Commissar Erranet that can be authenticated with a Challenging (+0) Common Lore (War) Test. Lastly, the third skull is pitted with shrapnel, a wound that an Easy (+30) Scholastic Lore (Imperial Creed) Test identifies as the ninety-ninth wound that finally killed Saint Uther. This is possible only through a true miracle as many details of the wounds match sealed documents.
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Fortunately, I have the Humble Bundle and I was able to track down the most sacred of artifacts, for those interested.
the tri-skull of saint uther Three skulls of Saint Uther the Cataplast, one at age twelve, one at age fifty, and one at age one hundred and fifty are surprisingly real relics. The first can be verified as Saint Uther’s with an Easy (+30) Medicae Test. The second bears markings suffered by Uther on behalf of an Ogryn who was protecting Lord Commissar Erranet that can be authenticated with a Challenging (+0) Common Lore (War) Test. Lastly, the third skull is pitted with shrapnel, a wound that an Easy (+30) Scholastic Lore (Imperial Creed) Test identifies as the ninety-ninth wound that finally killed Saint Uther. This is possible only through a true miracle as many details of the wounds match sealed documents.
SEE IT'S IMPOSSIABLE ANY SKULL COULD HAVE THOSE INJURIES BUT THE TRUE SAINTS! A MIIIIIIIIRACLE!
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Wait, and no-one in the fiction ever comments about it? That's amazing, I love it!
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Wait, and no-one in the fiction ever comments about it? That's amazing, I love it!
commenting about it would be a good way to get yourself burnt at the stake
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Wait, and no-one in the fiction ever comments about it? That's amazing, I love it!
commenting about it would be a good way to get yourself burnt at the stake
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Wait, and no-one in the fiction ever comments about it? That's amazing, I love it!
commenting about it would be a good way to get yourself burnt at the stake
Lol
Bonus points if the saint is the one wielding the relic
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H.B.M.C. wrote: I just want the Sisters that are in that kit, rather than the kit itself.
'Spose I can turn the body into an objective, and then base the others separately.
They'd make an excellent Kill Team. Also would be awesome fun to have them fight the relatively new Genestealer Cult characters.
Oh wait...what if someone took away the Sisters from this piece and replaced them with the GSC characters? :O
Casbyness wrote: Oh wait...what if someone took away the Sisters from this piece and replaced them with the GSC characters? :O
That's a fantastic idea. Her up the front (or him), a pair of these guys flanking the casket, this guy monitoring the corpse (the "First Patriarch" or something), this guy laying down the phat beats endless droning sermon, and a banner bearer up the back.
It's hinted throughout the fiction that 'Living Saints' are the Emperor's attempts to artificially create Perpetuals. So it makes sense that some of them would have incomplete or imperfect regeneration and so leave behind 'miraculously preserved' body parts, even potentially in multiples.
Presumably Saint Katherine's heart regenerated after her death, but the rest of her didn't. She would have been one of the Emperor's earliest attempts.
Saint Uther might have kept getting decapitated and regenerating, but leaving the severed head behind each time. And then he lost the ability and died for good the third time. (His epithet 'the Cataplast' actually implies this, as cataplasia is the term for when cells revert to an earlier form - a Perpetual turning back into a regular mortal could be described as a cataplast).
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Wait, and no-one in the fiction ever comments about it? That's amazing, I love it!
Duskweaver wrote: It's hinted throughout the fiction that 'Living Saints' are the Emperor's attempts to artificially create Perpetuals. So it makes sense that some of them would have incomplete or imperfect regeneration and so leave behind 'miraculously preserved' body parts, even potentially in multiples.
porkuslime wrote: I realize this is not the best place to ask, but since it is tangentally related to the Army Box..
Anyone who grabbed multple boxes want to trade/sell to me tow of the 3 Arcoflagellants? (one of each sculpt)
I cannot fathom spending 30 bucks for 3 on ebay..
Why not just wait for the multipart kit to drop?
My belief is that the ones in the army box are fixed pose guys that you cannot easily repllicate in the upcoming box set. Even if you COULD replicate them, you would not have to, since you already had those 2..
So pre-orders tomorrow-- in that case, looking forward to ordering a squad of battle sisters tomorrow. Would get more but I'm between contracts, so gotta slim down on spending.
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Well the ...Of Mars books had a tech priest whose servo skull was made with his own skull... so there's that.
But yeah. In the middle ages there were famous cases of Saints' with multiple skulls, bones and other parts floating around.
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Well the ...Of Mars books had a tech priest whose servo skull was made with his own skull... so there's that.
But yeah. In the middle ages there were famous cases of Saints' with multiple skulls, bones and other parts floating around.
That's hilarious but also more probable. All you have to do is carefully take bits of the skull out, replace the bit with metal, and reassemble the skull once your head's fully metal. It would make a cool basis for a Skitarii or Iron Hands force
Well considering how "Cult of the Warmason" ended, I kinda expect that huge number of so called relics are actually hoax or something entirely different.
The Inquisitor novel poked at this too; Draco at one point ruminated on how most of the faithful would be horrified to discover that Sebastian Thor actually had two heads, four arms and no less than five hands… or something like that.
H.B.M.C. wrote: The Ecclesiarchy is very good at coming up with nonsense relics.
Church of the Damned, one of the Dark Heresy books, has a relic that is three skulls of the same saint (one at age 12, one at age 50 and the other at age 150).
Think about that for a moment.
Well the ...Of Mars books had a tech priest whose servo skull was made with his own skull... so there's that.
But yeah. In the middle ages there were famous cases of Saints' with multiple skulls, bones and other parts floating around.
I thought he had scanned his skull and used it as the basis for his servo skull.
I think the question was if GW was holding back more new surprises in the form of replacement models for those options. Considering that they didn't cull them when they culled the rest I never expected them to replace them at this stage. Little surprised at the Crusaders as they would have been an ideal infantry to replace. Still its not all bad and there's a massive load of models updated that should be more than enough to keep people busy for a year or more building up a fresh force of plastic Sisters of Battle.
Ah. The models that were barely even referenced (if at all) during the year of previews and sneak peaks and were for sale the whole time? That struck me as an 'obviously not,' rather than a question.
Plus, it's GW. Why go the extra baby step to make an army 100% plastic and new when you can settle a few steps away at mostly finished...?
Blackstone Fortress and expansions did give us a priest and crusader model in plastic, while Kill Team Rogue Trader gave us a Death cult assassin. A basic preacher could maybe appear later as a clampack alongside an IG release of some sort if they needed to spread out the characters a bit (see how the kellermorph was make a kill team model to cheat the numbers for GSC characters)
Kanluwen wrote: Sprue breakdowns are up, and Retributors are 2 sprues instead of 3. Bummer!
Good news is that Multi-Meltas are the only weapon, seemingly, missing from the standard Battle Sisters setup.
What does sprue count matter? You get 5 retributions, 2 cherub and 2 heavy weapon of each type. Maybe this way there's 5 unique poses rather than 2 duplicates
Edit: or were you hoping for 3 unique sprues and dissapointed it's 2 duplicate sprues? Who really expects them to do retributions essentially 50% more expensive for gw?
MajorWesJanson wrote: Blackstone Fortress and expansions did give us a priest and crusader model in plastic, while Kill Team Rogue Trader gave us a Death cult assassin.
And? So? But? Therefore?
MajorWesJanson wrote: A basic preacher could maybe appear later as a clampack alongside an IG release of some sort if they needed to spread out the characters a bit (see how the kellermorph was make a kill team model to cheat the numbers for GSC characters)
Except the resin Preacher is still on sale. That was my point.
These miniatures haven't been replaced. They had a change, but chose not to take that shot.
Kanluwen wrote: Sprue breakdowns are up, and Retributors are 2 sprues instead of 3. Bummer!
Good news is that Multi-Meltas are the only weapon, seemingly, missing from the standard Battle Sisters setup.
What does sprue count matter? You get 5 retributions, 2 cherub and 2 heavy weapon of each type. Maybe this way there's 5 unique poses rather than 2 duplicates
Edit: or were you hoping for 3 unique sprues and dissapointed it's 2 duplicate sprues? Who really expects them to do retributions essentially 50% more expensive for gw?
Kanluwen wrote: Sprue breakdowns are up, and Retributors are 2 sprues instead of 3. Bummer!
Good news is that Multi-Meltas are the only weapon, seemingly, missing from the standard Battle Sisters setup.
What does sprue count matter? You get 5 retributions, 2 cherub and 2 heavy weapon of each type. Maybe this way there's 5 unique poses rather than 2 duplicates
Edit: or were you hoping for 3 unique sprues and dissapointed it's 2 duplicate sprues? Who really expects them to do retributions essentially 50% more expensive for gw?
Havocs are the same price and have 3 sprues for 9 heavy weapons and big chunky CSM. It was not unreasonable to expect 3 sprues for Retributors and more of each gun, IMO.
Basic Sisters I need to buy a box and figure out what to do with them later, those are so nice.
The only thing that confused me this morning was the item listing for Celestians/Dominions. I guessed they were the exact same thing as the Battle Sisters but couldn't check until after I placed my order, cuz I was scared things would sell out super fast again XD
I bought 2 Battle Sister kits, 3 Retributor kits, the limited Codex, the Triumph and a pack of 10 bases so I can separate the Triumph sisters from St. Kat.
I don't like the skeletal St. Kat at all. I'm going to either mod the armour and head so she looks like a regular person, or switch her entire body with the downed Sister in the Hospitaller kit.
After purchasing the new stuff, I happened upon the image of the upcoming terrain piece. I'm kinda disappointed - I expected the bell tower thing depicted in the Codex, but instead GW seems to have just appropriated the ruin that I've been using as a centrepiece of my Sisters army for the past seven years:
I guess they at least added a statue lol.
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Samko wrote: A battle sister squad is 3 sprues for 45€, and a retributor squad is 42.5€ for 2 sprues. I know it's nothing new from GW but I'm still bothered.
I think it's more weird when you consider that the difference between the two kits is really just the result of this calculation:
Sister Superiors cancel each other out
1 Retributor in each set cancel each other out
2 Cherubs vs 1 Cherub = +1 for Retributors
= 8 Sisters vs. 3 Retributors + 1 extra Cherub = 8 vs. 4 = Retributor discount of only £2.50 O.o
I guess those Multi Meltas are really expensive. Oh well, at least they put two Heavy weapon options in the regular kit - they could have just included the Heavy Flamer to force people even more into buying the Retributor kit. I'm guessing their mindset was if they didn't hold back the Multi Melta in the Retributor kit then people might just buy the regular kit only because of the better value for money.
I’m a little disappointed if not surprised that there won’t be a dominion kit (maybe there will further down the line?). I was hoping for masses of sisters with storm bolters, because storm bolters look cool.
Edit: Scratch that, there 4 of each special weapon in the sisters kit, I assumed there was 1.
phillv85 wrote: I’m a little disappointed if not surprised that there won’t be a dominion kit (maybe there will further down the line?). I was hoping for masses of sisters with storm bolters, because storm bolters look cool.
Edit: Scratch that, there 4 of each special weapon in the sisters kit, I assumed there was 1.
Jeeze I bought extra Melta Guns for my December boxed set squad for nothing then XD
phillv85 wrote: I’m a little disappointed if not surprised that there won’t be a dominion kit (maybe there will further down the line?). I was hoping for masses of sisters with storm bolters, because storm bolters look cool.
Edit: Scratch that, there 4 of each special weapon in the sisters kit, I assumed there was 1.
Yeah, the battle sisters box is the Dominion kit (and the Celestian kit for that matter).
Casbyness wrote: I guessed they were the exact same thing as the Battle Sisters but couldn't check until after I placed my order, cuz I was scared things would sell out super fast again XD
Not going to preorder this time because it's not a limited item, they won't run out, so no rush!
MajorWesJanson wrote: Blackstone Fortress and expansions did give us a priest and crusader model in plastic, while Kill Team Rogue Trader gave us a Death cult assassin.
And? So? But? Therefore?
Yeah, getting one monopose model per expensive boxed set with other stuff you might not even need really isn't terribly practical way to collect a squad of them. And that those things exist makes this even more annoying, as they obviously have up to date 3d assets them so half of the work for the new kits is already done. I'd be fine even by an easybuild option for these. Kits of three monopose crusaders or assassins.
Casbyness wrote: I guessed they were the exact same thing as the Battle Sisters but couldn't check until after I placed my order, cuz I was scared things would sell out super fast again XD
Not going to preorder this time because it's not a limited item, they won't run out, so no rush!
Except things do run 'temporarily out of stock' in the webstore. So if there is a possibility, even if they'll come back later.
I couldn't find the answer to this question anywhere- is the datacard set going up for preorder the same set that was found in the previously released Sisters box?
Melissia wrote: I'm a little bit lost, I haven't used GW's site in ages (I buy from a local store most of the time), are the pre-orders not up yet on the US site?
Ah, so they're an hour late now. Hopefully they show up sometime today. Only seeing Kharadron Overlords and Disciples of Tzeentch stuff, atm. No 40k stuff up for pre-order yet.
Dr Mathias wrote: I couldn't find the answer to this question anywhere- is the datacard set going up for preorder the same set that was found in the previously released Sisters box?
Nobody has them yet to answer that question. I'd assume so with the difference being that the army box version is split into 2 smaller packs.
Melissia wrote: Ah, so they're an hour late now. Hopefully they show up sometime today. Only seeing Kharadron Overlords and Disciples of Tzeentch stuff, atm. No 40k stuff up for pre-order yet.
The Khadoran and Tzeentch stuff should be up on their site already. If you can't see them under "new releases" just check their specific race tabs in the Age of Sigmar section. Kharadron will be under Order and Tzeentch under Chaos.
They might still be listed as "preorder" but the prices will be the same and they come off pre-order today anyway so they'll just automatically change to orders without any input from you. So you should be able to order that stuff right now without any issue.
I'm not looking for their fantasy line. Was looking for Sisters of Battle.
And nope, Sisters aren't up on "New Releases". Did a full refresh of the site. Sisters of Battle aren't on the New and Exclusive section nor the Adepta Sororitas section.
Rather bemusing. Was the info that they're up for pre-order on the 11th wrong?
changemod wrote: On the off chance, any info on whether the codex has any difference on the inside?
The most obvious thing would be that the box set one had a shockingly limited range of models shown in the photo galleries.
Nobody cares update: I got my box set and turns out the back cover has a few dings and scratches, removing the option of trading it anyhow and closing the question.
Still, it’s not like actually owning a codex is anything but a nice bonus nowadays anyhow given the steps you gotta go to to keep up with everyone else’s army lists.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Probs a bit late to the party, but barring the lack of MM, the main Sisters kit seems pretty well, erm, kitted out.
Yeah, as long as you don’t want to build a celestian or regular sister squad with a half box and use the same special weapons your dominion squad from the other half is using, you can pretty much build whatever.
Well, and if you want to use index/legend rules to take a 5th stormbolter in a dominion squad you’ll need to fetch it from out of box, I guess.
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Probs a bit late to the party, but barring the lack of MM, the main Sisters kit seems pretty well, erm, kitted out.
Yeah, as long as you don’t want to build a celestian or regular sister squad with a half box and use the same special weapons your dominion squad from the other half is using, you can pretty much build whatever.
Well, and if you want to use index/legend rules to take a 5th stormbolter in a dominion squad you’ll need to fetch it from out of box, I guess.
By current GW standards. It’s excellent. Unsure if compliment though
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Probs a bit late to the party, but barring the lack of MM, the main Sisters kit seems pretty well, erm, kitted out.
It's really damn good. This is essentially the basic Battle Sister box I've been dreaming of for the past... jesus, fifteen years? At least? I look forward to getting my copy.
OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote: 10AM local time is the UK & EU release time 1PM local time is the NZ release time (ie midnight UK)
Was 12pm local time when it got released, to me. I was just trying to find the correct time, earlier. Not everyone in the USA has the same time zone, so saying "10am in your nation" could give a range of up to four hours of difference depending on where you live and where the local time of 10am was determined. So it was a pain trying to determine what people meant until Voss stated it clearly and succinctly.
welp I put my order in, 4 boxes of sisters (so 6 5 woman squads and 2 5 woman dominion squads) also ordered cannoness Virydia as I'm going to need lots of cannonesses so might as well get around the snagging her.
So, I finally cracked and ordered one of the Starter Boxes off evilbay (after taxes, it was still 10$ cheaper than ordering from GW and 100x cheaper than some scalper prices, so I'll say its a win.)
Now, I'm not familiar with the unit sizes of SoB models, but are the arco-flagellants useable out of the box? I know the upcoming kit will have ten opposed to the three, so I'm assuming I'll need to buy a few more. I'm also not sure if I'll need five more Repentias to fill out the squad or if a four (wo)man squad + whipper is legal.
GaroRobe wrote: So, I finally cracked and ordered one of the Starter Boxes off evilbay (after taxes, it was still 10$ cheaper than ordering from GW and 100x cheaper than some scalper prices, so I'll say its a win.)
Now, I'm not familiar with the unit sizes of SoB models, but are the arco-flagellants useable out of the box? I know the upcoming kit will have ten opposed to the three, so I'm assuming I'll need to buy a few more. I'm also not sure if I'll need five more Repentias to fill out the squad or if a four (wo)man squad + whipper is legal.
archo flagellant squads are 3, 5 or 10 man in size, Repentia Squads are 4-9 man is size (which doesn't include the repentia superior who is a "does not occupy a FOC slot if taken with a squad of repentias" character now)
Honestly the main thing I’ve got to work out is how to convert (so that I have up to date plastic models rather than ancient sculpts) Priestesses (Because I’d prefer not to add a handful of male HQ’s to an army that’s entirely female barring a few penitent sinners).
Dr Mathias wrote: I couldn't find the answer to this question anywhere- is the datacard set going up for preorder the same set that was found in the previously released Sisters box?
If this is any help, its from todays Dark Sphere newsletter regarding SoB pre-order items...
"Whilst already included in the Sisters of Battle Army Set, both the Codex and Datacards will be soon be available to buy separately. These will be accompanied by a set of stained glass effect Adepta Sororitas Dice."
changemod wrote: Honestly the main thing I’ve got to work out is how to convert (so that I have up to date plastic models rather than ancient sculpts) Priestesses (Because I’d prefer not to add a handful of male HQ’s to an army that’s entirely female barring a few penitent sinners).
changemod wrote: Honestly the main thing I’ve got to work out is how to convert (so that I have up to date plastic models rather than ancient sculpts) Priestesses (Because I’d prefer not to add a handful of male HQ’s to an army that’s entirely female barring a few penitent sinners).
Convert the Female GSC Magos. She could be a good basis for a Priestess. Or maybe one of the female Rogue Traders. They're certainly excentric look. Maybe even Pious Vorne?
If this is any help, its from todays Dark Sphere newsletter regarding SoB pre-order items...
"Whilst already included in the Sisters of Battle Army Set, both the Codex and Datacards will be soon be available to buy separately. These will be accompanied by a set of stained glass effect Adepta Sororitas Dice."
If this is any help, its from todays Dark Sphere newsletter regarding SoB pre-order items...
"Whilst already included in the Sisters of Battle Army Set, both the Codex and Datacards will be soon be available to buy separately. These will be accompanied by a set of stained glass effect Adepta Sororitas Dice."
changemod wrote: Honestly the main thing I’ve got to work out is how to convert (so that I have up to date plastic models rather than ancient sculpts) Priestesses (Because I’d prefer not to add a handful of male HQ’s to an army that’s entirely female barring a few penitent sinners).
H.B.M.C. wrote: Why would 5 human-sized miniatures take up 3 sprues anyway?
lots of options?
So spare heads and purity seals? We have known for week it's 5 girls with 2 of each heavy weapons.
As it ls box is better than i thought if it's 2 sprue. No 2 duplicated sprues(=2 poses duplicated) with 2nd sprue design for veteran and cherubs plus banner.
I've got zero interest in the Sisters as an army...
...but I'm really trying to find a way to get my hands on a lot of that decorum they come with- stained glass and statues and the like. I've been wanting to make Shrine World terrain, or at least a decent-sized 3x3 Cathederal battlefield for some time.
...but I'm really trying to find a way to get my hands on a lot of that decorum they come with- stained glass and statues and the like. I've been wanting to make Shrine World terrain, or at least a decent-sized 3x3 Cathederal battlefield for some time.
if it helps the sisters rhino looks to be a standard rhino with an upgrade sprue, so that MIIIIGHT be your best bet, ( I'm assuming, given your name you play some type of space marine)
The next Psychic Awakening book is going up for preorder next weekend. I expect there to be some Sisters alongside it, but I dunno how it’ll affect the amount.
Walkers, arco flagelants, exorcrsts, hospitaler and exorcists plus the flying character. Exorcist nice but others i skip for now. Wtf with lack of generic hq's?
