I like these types of games. The models are somewhat neat. Very curious to the rule mechanics. The idea of you playing against a 'system' is very appealing as one of the big issues with SDE is the balance dalls out of sorts real quick with Dungeon master VS players.
I feel the retail box and what you get is a good starting place too.
The artistic style or the quality?
I'm not a fan of the cartoony-style myself either, but the quality looks fine. Then again, you're the sculptor. What's wrong?
The artistic style or the quality?
I'm not a fan of the cartoony-style myself either, but the quality looks fine. Then again, you're the sculptor. What's wrong?
I like the look,... sure the art has an animated feel to it,.... but it's not quite Dragon's Lair though.
the minis are not exactly like the art,... proportions are standardized. I like that the details are exagerated so that they will be easy to work with, paint, modify, etc.
Here are new images of some more of the monsters! The Orcs are from the base game and the Skeletons are part of the Stretch Goals. Note these are in progress, just the rough shapes, but you can see they are coming along nicely.
Quite interested in this but want to watch the gameplay videos properly first. Whilst not advertised the game is also playable solo (solo specific rules will be provided for free on the website).
The Minions stretch goal is back. It was never going to gone for good. We just needed to tweak it to better serve backers. We we started looking at everything, we decided three separate stretch goals for additional minions didn't serve us, nor you. So we removed the two, brought down the Skelly and a mini-boss.
Now that we have reached funding and it appears we'll hit Skellys soon, we wanted to go ahead and get the Minions back in there.
We have also placed the numbers for the miniatures you receive on the Stretch goal. A slight oversight on our part. What you can't read our minds?
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If you look at the demo vid; you can see that they are at least distinctive (ranged vs. melee). I'm hoping that the orc sculpts will also have different stats, etc. (though they are all melee types they do have different weaponry). The Skellys that were already unlocked have at least a ranged version,... and the captain looks like a caster!!!!
They are looking into alternat Hero sculpts to expand gender options to each of the characters, but haven't heard a thing about different arachnids of any kind
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Really liking the new stretch goals that have been added today (sorry, I am unable to link the pictures). I have been impressed by how well they have listened to the comments and how fast they have implemented the suggestions.
First off, we want to thank you guys for your assistance in getting this project funded. As we said earlier, we try to listen and create for the customers the game they want (as long as we can feasibly do it). In this case, I think we show our hand a little more (kinda give you a glimpse that we mean to take Myth pretty far) and give you something that you requested.
New stretch goals have been revealed. Please note that this still isn't the complete list, but this will put to bed any ideas that we don't have any goals past 200k and give you an idea what is to come.
We also added a 175k stretch goal for alternate gender Heroes. Images will be incoming during the Kickstarter (obviously we haven't started the sculpts). This WILL NOT slow down the production schedule at all.
This game looks really interesting. I'm in for $100, and probably the Quest and Map packs. The stretch goals just got really generous, and they saw a crazy surge in pledges.
Apparently, at this point in its campaign (about 10 or 11 days in), Zombicide had only about $50,000, they ultimately got close to $800,000. Myth just passed $100,000. Zombicide had three days of $100,000+ at the end. Though this ain't chock full o' zombies, I wonder if Myth can mimic to some degree that success? I can only imagine the crazy stretch goals we'll see!
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yeah,... I think we are actually going to be blown away by the quality of the minis.
These are not the crappy board game minis that come with most games,... droopy weapons and such. I actually think the zombicide minis are prety much crap too.
These are more like the plastics that you get from GW and PP,..... hobby level hard dense plastic! Once people figure this out,... it could truly explode!!!!
Lot's more to come,... if we can hit a few more stretches, we'll get to see some of the more advanced stretches,..
They've mentioned an additional tile set,... rat minions,.... the Orc Boss I can't wait!!!!
These are more like the plastics that you get from GW and PP,..... hobby level hard dense plastic! Once people figure this out,... it could truly explode!!!!
These are more like the plastics that you get from GW and PP,..... hobby level hard dense plastic! Once people figure this out,... it could truly explode!!!!
But GW and PP are very different plastics
Oh Kenshin...don't let something like that glaring fact get in the way of his super fanboy digs at other products! That's just silly.
These are more like the plastics that you get from GW and PP,..... hobby level hard dense plastic! Once people figure this out,... it could truly explode!!!!
But GW and PP are very different plastics
Sorry they said they are using the same plastic that is used in the PP product.
adjustment to pledge levels from Apprentice and above: they have indicated that any unlocked minions will be added to those goals,.. so skeletons added today, and elementals once we get to $225K
Once we get there, this pledge will have 44 extra models and the signed lithograph for just $50 more than the Captain pledge level.
Also: for European customers,... shipping from within the EU has been confirmed (so no VAT charges) and German translated versions confirmed (French, Italian, and Spanish still in progress)
New Hero revealed as an add-on (just $15 for male and female figures and the 31 card deck):
Vidoe of how this warrior poet deck plays (this theme is unlike any that I have seen, but the mechanics are seemingly simple):
Rat Minions and Captains have been revealed:
These are initially offered as an Add-on for $30 for 10 Minions and 2 Captains, but may be possibly be added as a later stretch goal.
Additionally: Minion add on prices have been cut in half,... now just #15 for 6 Minions:
Lastly, they have added a link on the front page to a cool visual guide to what you get with each pledge level,... this is from today, I'm sure they will update as they unlock more goals (maybe not at this exact link though)
That's a lot of plastic you're going to end up getting, especially as the amount pledged keeps climbing higher.
With each base game coming with at least 20 of all three minion races (plus elementals coming down the pipeline and the chance to have the rats end up as a later stretch), I wonder how long it will take before someone comes up with some sort of skirmish rules?
20 or 30 basic infantry, captains, mini bosses, bosses... you've got yourself multiple warbands ready to go right out of the box! Throw the 3D lairs if we get them on table as objective points, you're good to go!
I wonder if anyone has suggested throwing in some bonus skirmish rules to MERCS yet?
Not that I have seen in the comments,... But I know that the MERCS team has plans for many things,.. Some within the MERCS IP some in the MYTH IP,.. And still more in other areas,... Even publishing an English version of an existing game from another designer.
They are small now,... But they have big plans,...
They already have what I would call skirmish rules in MERCS,...
I Think what you are asking is table top army rules with units of models,...? Maybe, who knows, couldn't hurt to ask them.
BTW - the pledges just breached $170k,... Getting really close to that next stretch goal!
I just bought in for the Captain set. This game looks groovy, and coming just after Christmas is ideal! I wonder if the quest or tile expansions will be necessary...
I wouldn't call then necessary, but they can only serve to add more depth to the game. I think extra quest cards is a no brainer,... I believe they will also open a tile expansion stretch goal today,... If we hit that, the 6x6 tile add on set is designed to help transition between the art of those and that of the base set,.. So that would enable you to mix and match from all sets.
Today should be big,... If heard at the very least that the Orc boss will be shown in the advanced stretch goals
Also,... We breached the $200k mark,.. And have unlocked the exclusive trixster hero!!!
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1st off: New extended stretch goals. They've brought the rats further down in the order than they had planned, so they are definitely within reach!
The tiles are not the actual art, and should be a mix of sizes just as in the base game.
The Rat Boss art work is stil WIP
Automatically Appended Next Post: Lastly; many new add ons provided,... extra dice, expansion treasure deck, treasure bag, card sleeves for the Skald,...
But the most interesting is the Elemantal Boss w/ it's 10 card Darkness deck:
So, is it worth is to upgrade from Captain to Apprentice? I know you get more stuff, but do you need more stuff to play the game? I don't really have time to sit through gameplay videos, either at work or at home, so if anyone has any idea, I'd appreciate a word or two.
JoshInJapan wrote: So, is it worth is to upgrade from Captain to Apprentice? I know you get more stuff, but do you need more stuff to play the game? I don't really have time to sit through gameplay videos, either at work or at home, so if anyone has any idea, I'd appreciate a word or two.
np Josh - the Captain is an amazing deal,... and you will be able to get a full gaming experience,... no doubt!
the one area that has people moving to Apprentice is the thought of adding the ability to do encounters that focus on one type of enemy type. As the game exists; there are many times that you will enter a tile that requires two lairs(spawn points fo the monsters),.. if you only have the base set,... and for the most case even the Captain pledge level,... you will have to put two different lairs that spaw different types of minions and captains,.... apart from this being a variety issue, it does also remove a dificulty step from the game (as a single type dual lair tile is easier to deal with than one with two different enemy types). The Apprentice level gives you enough models to handle almost any situation.
so it is up to you which way you want to go,.... Personally,... I like the Apprentice with the extra 44 minis as it stands now,.... and it will have 55 extra if we hit the rats @ $350k
I think this is one of the more innovative things that I have seen in a KS,.... pledge levels that in effect get a separate boost for stretches.
This campaign is so amazing. This is one of the best value kickstarters I've seen in a while and with good updates and increasing value. VERY excited about this one.
Heh, I was just about to post the alternate Gender Sketches! MYTH is really shaping up to be a great bargain, and has a very enjoyable aesthetic to it all.
The MYTH/MERCS team is at Adepticon this weekend,... go by and see them. I hear that they demoed a new mode that can be run in MYTH last night,... hopefully they will post somve video later today.
New Stretch Goals and Optional Purchases!
Update #42 · Apr 20, 2013 · 70 comments
So later tonight became late afternoon Haha!
Here are some details on the new Stretch Goals:
@ 425k we have 2 new Rat and Elemental Captains
@ 450k we have a brand new race of Minions and Captains, the Cyclops! Some races don't get along very well, and hopefully you will see from the Cyclops' weapons that they have an interesting history with the Elementals.
@ 475k we have a new Mini Boss: A Minotaur!
@ 500k we bring in the Metal Tokens for your Hero Board slots, and special colored Coins for your MYTH treasure bag.
Beyond this, we have some great new Optional Purchases as well:
First, we have regular sized card sleeves for 5 bucks. These can accommodate cards from other various decks in the game beyond the Heroes. A pack of smaller item card sized sleeves are available for 5 dollars as well.
Finally we a fantastic new add-on; two custom cut trays offered by BattleFoam! These trays will are sized to fit inside of your MYTH game box and will hold the assembled models and components from the game.
and the day has been great,.... best day of the campaign so far,... and there is still time to go. They have stretches above these as well,..... maybe se them sometime tomorrow!
I can't believe this one isn't skyrocketing - it is a great looking game with a lot of great looking miniatures!
The $100 "Sweet Spot" looks to be a great deal too!
This is one of the few Kickstarters that I've seen that are adding things to the Sweet Spot level with just about every stretch too - no add-ons that cost more!
I've already set aside the cash to get a $100 level but geez, January 2014 until release?
Regardless of how you see it, 9 months is quite a long wait for a product (especially when it's over half done). The main body of the text/cards/maps are done so it looks like it's mainly printing and modelling that are the main reason for the production time.
I am looking forward to see those metal character plates though. Like zombicide you sometimes need paperweights or otherwise the cards slide around like crazy on the character tile (especially with the card sleeves). Could be the OCD talking but eh
3 month difference, except I would debate cost vs. delay (with KD taking the cake for both).
Just because there's another long as hell wait doesn't mean suddenly time compresses (as much as many would hope it would).
Compare the number of backers and we're looking about half of the KD kickstarter number, but comparatively we're also looking at (per ~$100 pledge excl. shipping) a model ratio for MYTH/KD of about 110/40. There's the obvious debate of quality/detail but when it boils down to it they're essentially fulfilling the same role (here is board, here is you, here is monster, kill monster). I would expect MYTH to be able to fulfil the quota without foreseeable delay short of a significant incident which would delay production.
And I seem to have forgotten the point of what I am posting but yeah...I guess things could be worse.
Word from the MERCS folks is that they have stretches up to $600k to put up in the morning.
I wouldn't imagine that it could get there,.. But some of these do get super crazy in the last two days,... 48hour mark is around 11am east coast time.
40k earned yesterday. If a similar day is done today, that's 400k down. That leaves the BIG day. The final 24 hours. Honestly, if the last day is as big as I'm hoping, those goals above 500k might be necessary. Maybe not 600k big, but I I can dream!
I think it's fallout from all of the mega KS games lately,... I think so many people have been dropping sooooo much (and in some cases disappointed with either the mini quality or the game play). People have been routinely dropping over $300 on games,.. I always wonder how much longer this can keep up?
I personally haven't backed many at all,... So I'm really psyched about this one. Stay tuned,.. New stretch goals this morning!
yamato wrote: I think it's fallout from all of the mega KS games lately,... I think so many people have been dropping sooooo much (and in some cases disappointed with either the mini quality or the game play). People have been routinely dropping over $300 on games,.. I always wonder how much longer this can keep up?
I personally haven't backed many at all,... So I'm really psyched about this one. Stay tuned,.. New stretch goals this morning!
Agree. Many companies have been late, over promised, been unable to faithfully represent concept art and sucked a lot of goodwill out of the KS community.
I learned my lesson on backing unsculpted figures because once they have your money they can have hacks finish the rest.
This KS I feel has a good track record of being able to faithfully turn concept art into figures. And the sheer number of minis makes it worth it to me because what is already sculpted is worth 100$, But my normal rules would have prevented me from backing it due to other experiences with other KS. It is very frustrating to drop 300$ for a bunch of ugly minis because you backed unsculpted minis.
With achieving the 350k stretch, a new faction of The Darkness has been unleashed: RATS! Below is a rundown of how many rat minions and captains you will receive, Captain pledge and above. The Pledge Level Tally image has also been updated: http://www.keithloweart.com/pledge_level_tally_04.12.jpg
If you haven't been following along, check out The Darkness Tally chart below.
Today was awesome...tomorrow is going to be crazy. We have some surprises for everyone and the last of our marketing hits.
Are the Skald and Spriggan and Elemental Boss add ons that don't presently come with any of the pledges? THat's my understanding, but I wanted to make sure.
Also: The minis looked really great at Adepticon. I wish Keith and Brian could have done a bit more demoing, but they were willing to answer pretty much any and all questions. Really great dudes.
Are the Skald and Spriggan and Elemental Boss add ons that don't presently come with any of the pledges? THat's my understanding, but I wanted to make sure.
Also: The minis looked really great at Adepticon. I wish Keith and Brian could have done a bit more demoing, but they were willing to answer pretty much any and all questions. Really great dudes.
Wish I could have been there to see that!
Strap in for the ride boys and girls, we,ve done over $5000 in the last hour,... Here we go........!
If we don't break the 425k goal today, I'll eat my foot!
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I figured this would blow up. They had a REALLY great showing at Adepticon.
Was there any more info in regards to what was included in the two decks (treasure and quest?) or if they'll be available later? I haven't been following all of the updates THAT closely. Thanks!
The Treasure deck has items that aren't available anywhere else and the Quest deck has 30 cards in it. 20 Chapter, 8 Act, and 2 Story quests. They will definitely be seeing general release.
Oh, and the Treasure deck has items for every class. Skald, Spriggen, and Trickster as well
cincydooley wrote: I figured this would blow up. They had a REALLY great showing at Adepticon.
Was there any more info in regards to what was included in the two decks (treasure and quest?) or if they'll be available later? I haven't been following all of the updates THAT closely. Thanks!
I stopped by their booth for a moment, and didn't see much. The few models they had appeared to be ones that we've seen before. I'm assuming that because of the KS nature of the game, they didn't bring alot to showcase, and instead had more items for their 'Mercs' game.
cincydooley wrote: I figured this would blow up. They had a REALLY great showing at Adepticon.
Was there any more info in regards to what was included in the two decks (treasure and quest?) or if they'll be available later? I haven't been following all of the updates THAT closely. Thanks!
Did they have models at AdeptiCon? Pics?
THey had some there, but i think they had to use the ones they had for the couple demos they were able to run. They were pretty early production models, I was told, but all in all they looked very nice.
Sadly, I didn't take very many photos. Between demoing Zombicide for CMON and getting piss ass drunk, I wasn't really able to.
I have a few photos of things I brought home, and I'll be writing about them this evening for ya'll to peruse. It was a pretty low key Adepticon, IMO, but that didn't make it terribly bad.
Yeah, I have to say, for 100$ for 131 models (12 heros, 7 large, rest small and medium) and a full game, if you enjoy RPGs at all or painting minis, it is worth it. A lot of us play games where 100$ maybe gets you one unit, or even 1 model!
I can't think of many better uses of 100$ when it comes to recreational/modeling stuff.
cincydooley wrote: Mechanically it's considerably different than descent. Like, a lot.
I'm referring to overall feel and complexity.
Like Yamato said, it's not similar in any of those respects. They're similar in that they have minis and are dungeon games. Beyond that, it's about it.
Im actually interested in this game but I have a question... in the right hand column on the KS page with all the various pledge levels it says Estimated Delivery January 2015 at the $100 level. Is this a typo?
I mean I could understand if some of the stretch goal stuff was delayed a bit, but thats one serious delay.
I hope they can handle making minis that cheap. It seems like they are on top of it by putting addons and streches which dilute costs like duplicate minions and captians, but I just worry they get 'too much'.
I don't think the "blood everywhere" part will be much of an issue. I mean, you'll still be abstractly killing tiny plastic monsters so it depends how averse you are to that.
I think the game play is a bit more on the complicated side for a youngling, but only because they have to manage their hand. I think you could very easily give them the warrior or an easy to play character, play opened handed, read them their options and then let them make the decision. Could be a great way to foster reading too, as you could only let them play a "harder" character when they can read more cards on their own. :-).
On the blood side of things I guess I'd have a hard time selling my wife on a game where you can draw a "you tear out your opponents lungs with your bare hands, showering yourself with gore. Some of it gets in your mouth and you don't mind..." card.
So that works.
Hand management could still be fun, I guess I'd be wary of a ton of record keeping, but that's about it.
From the videos, the hit points or life points in this game are called blood points, so you might hit an enemy for 2 blood, or get hit for 1 blood, but that seems to be about as graphic as it got. I mean maybe the Brigand will have a backstab or hamstring ability or something like that, but I hardly think that would be too gory for a kid.
Wow! 107k day! If tomorrow is this good, we're looking at 600k before we even get to the final 12 hours!
Also, MERCs has said that there are 3 more stretch goals after 600k and then they are tapped out.
Automatically Appended Next Post: And the Minotaur mini-boss is in! Up next, we have the metal hero tokens and coins
Automatically Appended Next Post: New stretchers are up!
Here are the next two stretch goals.
The first are 10 KS exclusive quests. These use KS exclusive miniatures, including the mini-bosses. I am pretty proud of these. I think they tie the whole KS (including many of the in-jokes) experience together nicely.
Second we have some special Slaughterfield Tiles. These are NOT KS exclusive, but won't be out for a long time, so we wanted you to have them.
About to cross 500K and only 75 backers or so away from 3000, with over 24 hours to go.
Any idea how much retail the base box will be? And how many minis it will come with? Basically, how good of a deal is the $100 pledge... it seems like a really good deal and I find this much more appealing than say, Reaper Bones, despite how good of a deal that was- because I am not an RPG player and would only be interested in the board game aspect using these kinds of minis.
So the retail box is:
41 Miniatures (28mm Heroic scale): 5 Heroes, 15 Arachnid Minions, 15 Orc Minions, 2 Arachnid Captains, 2 Orc Captains, 1 Mini-boss, 1 Arachnid Boss
So for 11$ more than MSRP you get 130ish figures opposed to 41.
It seems like Boardgame RPGs are popping up to be a middleground for people who can't get into a full RPG system. The no Dungeon Master is super appealing as then the bringer of the box doesn't always have to be the runner of the game.
My understaning is that a Cyclops Boss is coming today,.. though I'd expect it to be an add on at this point,... but maybe a goal above $600k??? I think they have three more stretche to get us as high as $750k
also a lot of hints about the two trickster pledges that were made yesterday,... that is the potential of 2 mini-bosses being added to the game!
New stretch goals up through 800k posted! Reaaaally doubting that final one, but I definitely think the 650k is possible. MAYBE the 700k goal. I really hope we get there!
Wonder if a 'follower' is an escort NPC or something.
Going to dig in the couch cushions for money...
My big problem is I have 3 sets off friends. Wargamers, RPGers and Non gamers who enjoy a casual boardgame.
*Wargamers can't handle RPG games as there are not enough rigid rules and a game to play, they lose interest quickly.
*RPGers are not all about buying 300$ of minis and don't seem to like lots of mini investment.
*Casual friends can't really wrap their heads around buying minis or RPG systems, but can play a boardgame if models are provided. They kinda get 'spooked' by Dungeon masters having to lead a game.
I am hoping this is a sweet spot smack dab in the middle of the gamer appeal matrix.
nkelsch wrote: Only thing missing is sculpted terrain boards. I like me some 3D dungeon terrain
I guess you could consider the lairs a type of terrain?
For 8 bucks you get a full set of 6 lairs. Not bad. Might make decent table dressings.
Oh trust me, I am all over the lairs... I am going to get extras for my other gaming systems because Lairs are a great concept. Lairs/Traps are going to be useful to anyone who dungeon games in any system.
Not at this point,... Unless you double up your pledge for a second whole set,...
But they have talked about an extensive post campaign pledge manager where you can still add money to your pledge,... Maybe they'll open up some more add ons at the point,...
Well, if you consider the current add-on prices, the minotaur would probably run you ~$20. If you plan on getting another set of lairs (like myself and many others), you're at $28 worth of stuff that comes with Captain level. At that point, it might be worth it to just get double-captain and have another copy of the game and another pile of minis!
Myth and Kingdom Death are proud to present the Twilight Knight Mini-boss.
Kingdom Death is a nightmare horror board game with highly detailed, beautiful 35mscale miniatures. They really set the bar high for both miniatures and Kickstarters.
Early in the Kickstarter cycle Kingdom Death backed Myth. We quickly reached out to them. We knew they were busy, but hoped we might collaborate. We began to talk and decided that doing a Trickster Level and providing a Mini-boss was ideal. Keith got to work on the art transition and with the help of the Kingdom Death team fused these two amazing worlds in the solitary figure of the Twilight Knight.
As with all Mini-bosses, she will be accompanied by a stat card. However, unique to the Twilight Knight, Heroes who somehow defeat her win the cursed blade, the Twilight Sword. The only Orange item in the game at this point.
This Limited Edition miniature will be given for free to all backers at the Minion Level and above ($75).
We can't thank Adam Poots and his team enough for their generosity and effort in this relationship. They really love the hobby and are incredibly good people to know and work with.
Damn it I've been back and forth on this all day will I won't I and I was going to make up my mind in the morning but that was the final push I needed great that it's added free as well not that it wasn't a great deal to begin with.
From KD:Ms own update:
Note*
This model does not include any unique rules for Kingdom Death: Monster. It only has rules for Myth as a mini-boss. It will also be rendered at 28mm heroic scale so it fits within Myth's game. I cannot make any promises of the figures availability outside of Myth's Kickstarter. The intent of this collaboration project is to show support for Myth's campaign and show the good faith and brewing friendship between the two studios.
Note*
This model does not include any unique rules for Kingdom Death: Monster. It only has rules for Myth as a mini-boss. It will also be rendered at 28mm heroic scale so it fits within Myth's game. I cannot make any promises of the figures availability outside of Myth's Kickstarter. The intent of this collaboration project is to show support for Myth's campaign and show the good faith and brewing friendship between the two studios.
Worth..noting!
Not that it bothers me in the least, as I've got PLENTY of KD minis coming in from my KD: Monster pledge.
I'm not a crossover person (but LOTS of people are) so that doesn't really interest me, but that 800K stretch WIP art does look sweet. As does the 700K.
It's just about to cross 600K, so I think it will make the 700K goal... could probably use a halfway goal to help it get there, though (although the KD crossover model may do that).
They said they've got standbys in case this does actually break 800k... that's a lot of money! At the rate this thing is climbing they just might need to institute them!
not sure how they go with those,... the heroes are 30-32mm tall,... I think they are calling it 28mm heroic scale,... similar to GW and PP sized characters.
just over 14 hours left,......
hurry up,... the train is leaving (yeah, I'm talking to you!)
About 13 hours to go and the 50k needed to get the cyclops boss is a near lock. The thing I'm really starting to think is that getting to 800k isn't so impossible. I mean, the last 2 hours of this project are going to be absolutely NUTS. I could see 50+k being made in just that time, maybe more!
Another add-on surfaces! This is stuff to add to your enjoyment of the SLAUGHTERFIELD! game mode
"And they sang as they slew, for the joy of battle was upon them." - Tolkien, The Ride of the Rohirrim
Our last update (maybe, we promise), is the Slaughterfield Supplement Pack. It contains three separate Slaughterfield Decks. These decks can only be used with the Slaughterfield game mode.
The first deck is a 10 card Random Spawn Generator. This allows you to have a completely random game every time. Each session of Slaughterfield consists of 10 waves of terror. The Heroes task is only to survive as long as they can and take as many of them with you as possible. Traps can be turned against the Darkness, but to separate from the rest of the group is certain death.
The second deck is a 15 card Slaughterfield Items deck. These items can only be used in Slaughterfield, but every treasure pick-up is guaranteed to be a good one. This deck greatly increases the survivability past Wave 5.
The third deck is a 15 card Slaughterfield Achievement Deck. This deck contains tasks for the Heroes. These tasks are dealt randomly to each player and are kept secret until turned in for a reward or at the end to supplement victory points awarded for kills and waves survived.
My opinion, the second one is far more consistently valuable, since you WILL get the knight and you WILL be able to sell the box to someone (or at least parts of the box. There are several neat minis in there)
Jeez! There is a VERY real possibility of that 800k goal now! A little under 11 hours to go, the biggest 2 hours at the end, and less than 100k to get it. I'm getting excited!
Still 10 hours to go, but it'll be interesting to see how it does with much of the US asleep. I think it will keep climbing... all the night owls (and of course people in Europe / etc) will keep it going
RiTides wrote: Still 10 hours to go, but it'll be interesting to see how it does with much of the US asleep. I think it will keep climbing... all the night owls (and of course people in Europe / etc) will keep it going
Automatically Appended Next Post: Ack!!!!! Maybe a DRAGON if we can get to $900k in the last three hours!
Creator MERCS Miniatures less than a minute ago
So, with complete transparency. You guys and gals have clearly outpaced our expectations and abilities at this point. I think that is abundantly clear.
Keith has 20 minutes to get a handle on a concept for a minor dragon. If it is good, we'll proceed and you'll have a 900k stretch. If it is not, you have everything we can give you. Cross you fingers.
We will wait to do a major dragon (one that would smack your momma in the mouth), but in light of how we are driving towards 900k, introducing the concept of minor and major is something we were going to do anyway.
Nice that they didn't do a paid add-on right at the end, which folks might not see in time to pledge for, but I think it would've helped to make 900K. What a crazy last day here!
Any of the add-ons look like must haves for the game? I'm torn on grabbing some of the extra game content, but seeing as this will probably be mostly played by just me and my wife I imagine just the stuff in the Captain pledge will keep us going for a good while.
Is this a pledge manager that allows you to increase your pledge after close, it's a bit late in the day to work out what's going on with all the extras so I want to do that when I'm not at work.
I couldn't resist pledging but I hope this game has playable rules unlike sedition wars which required a major overhaul.. Although I do buy these for the models in general.
After Mercs said we can up our actual pledges via the pledge manager (not just add stuff to it) I'm pretty sure I'm going from captain to apprentice.
That is a veritable CRAPLOAD of miniatures in a box to mess with. Plus it's looking quiet likely we'll be getting that dragon. This game just keeps on giving!
My big question is which will actually get delivered to us first- this or Kingdom Death? It's going to be hard pulling myself away from one to play the other.
Finally got my pledge in for this, just couldn't resist the Twilight Knight and Mongoose Warrior. I was admittedly a little worried this project wouldn't go very far when it first started it had a pretty slow start,
so glad to see it explode the way it has, Mercs really deserve it, there a great little company.
- 6 Boss figures which are each in the 90mm height range (all with their own 10 card decks to control the darkness)
- 7 Mini-Boss figures, most are somewhere between Boss and Captain size
- 22 Captain figures (of 6 different types), larger than heroes or minions
- 12 heroes (6 of each in male and female versions) about 32mm
- 2 bonus figures for special game modes
- 106 minions (15 sculps from 6 different races)
Man, this campaign made me feel like Kingdom Death did. The constant crushing of stretch goals, final hours MANIA with giant, unlikely stretches falling beneath the money-sword. A whole lot of awesome happened here.
recruittons wrote: Man, this campaign made me feel like Kingdom Death did. The constant crushing of stretch goals, final hours MANIA with giant, unlikely stretches falling beneath the money-sword. A whole lot of awesome happened here.
The BIG difference being the cost associated with each!
recruittons wrote: Man, this campaign made me feel like Kingdom Death did. The constant crushing of stretch goals, final hours MANIA with giant, unlikely stretches falling beneath the money-sword. A whole lot of awesome happened here.
The BIG difference being the cost associated with each!
MYTH is quite the bargain!
Ha! Too true! $336 spent on KD, only $100 spent on MYTH
B0B MaRlEy wrote: Darnit came back home an hour after it ended ... Well, I guess that's karma
If you know someone who pledged (or can find a trustworthy online contributer) you could see if you could piggyback on their order by adding yours on with the pledge manager.
B0B MaRlEy wrote: Darnit came back home an hour after it ended ... Well, I guess that's karma
If you know someone who pledged (or can find a trustworthy online contributer) you could see if you could piggyback on their order by adding yours on with the pledge manager.
Yeah I had considered this solution , but alas I know noone well enough around here who has pledged and who would be around europe ...
I managed to restrain myself from pledging in the Reaper and Monster kickstarters, and now I miss the one that almost felt reasonnable ...
I am very happy with the quality of concept art to sculpt, even down to the pose. I have faith they can execute these as not a single sculpt has been off at all. No proportion issues, no questionable minis. I hope they can keep up the quality.
whuh feth, that looks a damn sight better than what I'd believed from the KS prior to it ending. might have actually backed based on those. Oh well, sure my wallet prefers this
Bolognesus wrote: whuh feth, that looks a damn sight better than what I'd believed from the KS prior to it ending. might have actually backed based on those. Oh well, sure my wallet prefers this
Yeah, too bad. I was on the fence and decided to hold back b/c of KD and the minis only being okay, but these look way nicer. If I'd seen these, I'd have been much more likely to spring for it...
Have they ever mentioned who's doing the sculpting?
I had assumed it was by whoever was doing MERCS. Based on those figures it makes sense for Myth's to look just as nice in the end.
It's going to be interesting to see how much needs to be put together. I know MERCS mentioned they'd have a lot of it as single pieces or prebuilt with the exception of the larger models... but you're looking at 140+ models if you pledged at captain. Woe to those of you who pledge even higher!
I'm going to have to find a good small scale skirmish rule set to use with all these guys and those slaughterfield tiles (that is if MERCS doesn't come up with one first). With 10- 30+ models of each race (depending on how you pledge), captains, mini- bosses and bosses you've got a nice little team to field against one of the other races.
Most of the "models" shown on the main page were pshops of the WIP sculpts. Only the nids ans two heroes were near final.
You had to dig into the updates to see more WIP shots, and If you used the MERCS previous work as an example, you would have expected this type of final result.
To be entirely honest, no, these WIP sculpts are a league at least above their current sculpting work, which is always a good thing, but MERC minis were never that good in detail.
highlord tamburlaine wrote: I'm going to have to find a good small scale skirmish rule set to use with all these guys and those slaughterfield tiles (that is if MERCS doesn't come up with one first). With 10- 30+ models of each race (depending on how you pledge), captains, mini- bosses and bosses you've got a nice little team to field against one of the other races.
I assumed Keith would be doing the sculpting, but definitely ask this question in the updates!
Went with Captain, $100 for 160+ miniatures. That's enough for me.
Also, it looks like it's easy to make fanmade stuff. Mini-bosses and minions look to have a single card that's not shuffled in a deck. That means I can use my other 28mm figures for this game!
PsychoticStorm wrote: To be entirely honest, no, these WIP sculpts are a league at least above their current sculpting work, which is always a good thing, but MERC minis were never that good in detail.
I have to disagree. The previous models were just below the standard quality of your normal infinity mini, and only barely. If you put them side by side in a photo with some infinity minis, someone that didn't know about MERCs would just assume they were part of the infinity line.
We cannot all have the same opinion, for me the details were less and softer, the posing more awkward and the overall design less intricate, plus the models were more bulky.
The sculpting details they do on Myth is way above what they did on the merc sculpts.
I definitely would've pledged if I'd seen those sculpts sooner, I wasn't very impressed with the ones on the main kickstarter page, and in the end decided I wasn't sold enough on the rules to pledge just for them... *sigh*
Update #60 · May 9, 2013 · 33 comments
The pledge manager is ready for the first group of backers. We are going to start slowly, if you don't mind. We want to make sure everything is in order and makes sense.
Friday, May 10 we'll invite the Acolyte and Archer levels. You will receive the email around 2:00 EST.
There will be tech support on hand for immediate issue resolution. In addition, there will be an email provided to ask questions, offer a critique, or just let us know how your felt the pledge manager went.
If everything goes smoothly, the next wave will be seven days later. Wave #2 will be MUCH larger, possibly the entirety of Apprentice or Captain (depending on how the first 50 go). We'll put out another update shortly before the second wave detailing how things have gone, although I suspect there will be plenty of information floating out there. During this second wave of invites, anyone interested in getting in on Myth who missed the KS will be invited to join via the pledge manager. Be watching the updates next week to know for sure.
the Myth Team
On another note, which of the add-ons aren't included at all in $150 Apprentice? I'm finding it a little confusing right now...
@Azazelx: Add-ons not included in Apprentice level...
Spriggan
Spriggan Sleeves
Skald
Skald Sleeves
Agents of Darkness
Elemental Boss
Treasure Bags
Treasure Deck Expansion
Item Card Sleeves
Quest Expansion I
Regular Sized Card Sleeves
Hero T-Shirt
Battlefoam Inserts
6x6 Tile Supplement (these are new tiles that transition from the different tiles more cleanly)
Sculpted Lairs (You get one set, but if you have you, you can fight two of the same monster type on a tile without using the cardboard tile)
All of the Metal Minis
Hope that helps!
@Alpharius: That's what it sounds like! Or at the least an email to send a request to get the pledge manager to.
Will they be posting further instructions and a link so we can jump on?
All I know is what was posted in the comments. I'd suggest keeping an eye on the comments page, and if I hear anything not written there, I'll pass it on.
thanks, recruittons. I'll have to work out what I want and how much I'm willing/able to pay for extras. How many cards worth do the sleeve packs include?
Here's a quote from one of the updates I received through email...
If you missed the KS and messaged me about getting in the pledge manager, we'll square you away when we launch the pledge manager. You'll be able to add additional items, increase pledge level, and confirm your order.
This leads me to believe that those who missed out on the Kickstarter, can still join in on it once the Pledge Manager is up and running. What stretch goals and such are available for those people is I think unknown. I'm unable to find any information specifically about that.
Wave #1 has been sent out for the Pledge Manager though. Basically those who did Alcolyte and Archer level get first dibs. Once they see what bugs come up, and things run smoothly, the next wave will be 7 days later. So this Friday?
EDIT: As I typed and read the email, I think it answers all your questions. Let me quote the entirety of the email for you.
Project Update #60: Pledge Manager Wave #1
Posted by MERCS Miniatures
The pledge manager is ready for the first group of backers. We are going to start slowly, if you don't mind. We want to make sure everything is in order and makes sense.
Friday, May 10 we'll invite the Acolyte and Archer levels. You will receive the email around 2:00 EST.
There will be tech support on hand for immediate issue resolution. In addition, there will be an email provided to ask questions, offer a critique, or just let us know how your felt the pledge manager went.
If everything goes smoothly, the next wave will be seven days later. Wave #2 will be MUCH larger, possibly the entirety of Apprentice or Captain (depending on how the first 50 go). We'll put out another update shortly before the second wave detailing how things have gone, although I suspect there will be plenty of information floating out there. During this second wave of invites, anyone interested in getting in on Myth who missed the KS will be invited to join via the pledge manager. Be watching the updates next week to know for sure.
the Myth Team
I think you need to actually email the gentleman through the KS site, and request your email be added to the pledge manager when it goes live. Sounds like you can get in on it then.
The second wave of invites have gone out for the pledge manager. It is the whole of the Apprentice level backers.
To those invited, please register within the next few days. We haven't had any issues since the initial launch and those were minor. This represents a very large chunk of people. If we have no issues, EVERYONE else will be invited in the next few days, including those wanting to get in who missed the Kickstarter.
If you are an Apprentice backer and didn't get a message from me, then you should check your junk folder.
Latest update out today. Pledge manager is live apparently.
Posted by MERCS Miniatures
Every backer has been invited now. We have every server available to us active and have streamlined the initial email system. Regardless, we expect the first few hours after this invite to be very heavy traffic and the site to be slower.
There is only one bug that bears specific mention. We think we have fixed it, but time will tell. Of the 1300 Apprentice backers invited, 900 have finalized their order, 10 were charged double. If it appears you are going to be charged double, please email mythsupport@prattwebdesign.com before finalizing your order. We were able to refund the initial four within 24 hours, but didn't get enough data to solve the problem. The last three gave us a decent amount of info and we think we fixed it.
For those that missed the Kickstarter, there will be an open invitation sent out in an update tomorrow!
Now that EVERYONE has been invited, if you didn't get an email, please go to www.mythboardgame.com and follow these directions.
1. REQUEST A PASSWORD. You will find a link of the same name in the orange box welcoming you to the page. Click the link. It will takes you to a page that has a "User account" header and a space to input an email address. It is very important that the email provided here is the SAME email you used to pledge on Kickstarter.
2. LOG IN. The email you receive provides you with a one-time use link. Don't worry. You will be setting up a new password once you log in. If for some reason there is an issue, you can request another password.
3. CONFIRM ADDRESS. After you log in, you will be automatically directed to the "Confirm Address" tab. Here you will provide your address for shipping and change your password to something of your choosing. From here on out, you will log in with your email/username and the password you create here.
The email says that there will be an open invitation sent out tomorrow for those that missed the Kickstarter. I'll keep an eye on my email and post any updates that I see.
My big issue now is to figure out how much additional money I want to spend on all the extras!
PsychoticStorm wrote: To be entirely honest, no, these WIP sculpts are a league at least above their current sculpting work, which is always a good thing, but MERC minis were never that good in detail.
I have to disagree. The previous models were just below the standard quality of your normal infinity mini, and only barely. If you put them side by side in a photo with some infinity minis, someone that didn't know about MERCs would just assume they were part of the infinity line.
If you set up that test I'll take it! I'm largely ignorant on both lines.
Arander wrote: The email says that there will be an open invitation sent out tomorrow for those that missed the Kickstarter. I'll keep an eye on my email and post any updates that I see.
The open invite for people who missed the KS is now out - Alpharius should be happy!
I ended up dropping another $78 on the pledge manager on top of my Captain pledge plus Spriggan not bad for a KS I only backed at the last minute.
Project Update #65: Send for Reinforcements
Posted by MERCS Miniatures Like
Many of you have messaged, emailed, and posted to us saying you have missed the Kickstarter and want to support this game. We have said you would have an opportunity to pledge and now is your chance.
User registration for additional backers is enabled. Please go to www.mythboardgame.com and click "Create New Account" and enter a username and email address. You will receive an email noting the account is created at this. The account is unverified at that point. We have to approve it. No one will be denied, but this will take time so don't expect something back instantaneously. From there, you will another email with a log in link and the process should be about the same as it is for anyone else at this point.
Once you get the login link, follow these directions.
1. REQUEST A PASSWORD. You will find a link of the same name in the orange box welcoming you to the page. Click the link. It will takes you to a page that has a "User account" header and a space to input an email address.
2. LOG IN. The email you receive provides you with a one-time use link. Don't worry. You will be setting up a new password once you log in. If for some reason there is an issue, you can request another password.
3. CONFIRM ADDRESS. After you log in, you will be automatically directed to the "Confirm Address" tab. Here you will provide your address for shipping and change your password to something of your choosing. From here on out, you will log in with your email/username and the password you create here.
DaveC wrote: The open invite for people who missed the KS is now out - Alpharius should be happy!
I ended up dropping another $78 on the pledge manager on top of my Captain pledge plus Spriggan not bad for a KS I only backed at the last minute.
Project Update #65: Send for Reinforcements
Posted by MERCS Miniatures Like
Many of you have messaged, emailed, and posted to us saying you have missed the Kickstarter and want to support this game. We have said you would have an opportunity to pledge and now is your chance.
User registration for additional backers is enabled. Please go to www.mythboardgame.com and click "Create New Account" and enter a username and email address. You will receive an email noting the account is created at this. The account is unverified at that point. We have to approve it. No one will be denied, but this will take time so don't expect something back instantaneously. From there, you will another email with a log in link and the process should be about the same as it is for anyone else at this point.
Once you get the login link, follow these directions.
1. REQUEST A PASSWORD. You will find a link of the same name in the orange box welcoming you to the page. Click the link. It will takes you to a page that has a "User account" header and a space to input an email address.
2. LOG IN. The email you receive provides you with a one-time use link. Don't worry. You will be setting up a new password once you log in. If for some reason there is an issue, you can request another password.
3. CONFIRM ADDRESS. After you log in, you will be automatically directed to the "Confirm Address" tab. Here you will provide your address for shipping and change your password to something of your choosing. From here on out, you will log in with your email/username and the password you create here.
If you have an issue with your pledge manager order, let us together fix this thing and move forward to glory and victory. This is a process; it is not instantaneous It will take place over the next couple weeks. We will identify your account, make the necessary refund, then invite you back in to the PM to "fix" your order.
Certainly there can be many "errors", but the one that we have been pinged the most about is the metal Skald and Spriggan (without Hero decks) versus the plastic Skald and Spriggan (with Hero decks). All those that have emailed me or mythsupport about this issue, now is the time to make changes. Other issues are welcome. Simply follow the instructions below.
1.Email mythsupport@prattwebdesign.com with CORRECT in the subject line. Put any corrections you need to make in the text. We don't need a giant story or many paragraphs. Make it a list: easy to find and easy to understand.
2. We'll make the corrections in the system and return the credit associated with the mistake within the PM for those pieces and parts.
3. You'll be invited back in to change your order the way you intended and finalize the order.
recruittons wrote: @Azazelx: Add-ons not included in Apprentice level...
Spriggan
Spriggan Sleeves
Skald
Skald Sleeves
Agents of Darkness
Elemental Boss
Treasure Bags
Treasure Deck Expansion
Item Card Sleeves
Quest Expansion I
Regular Sized Card Sleeves
Hero T-Shirt
Battlefoam Inserts
6x6 Tile Supplement (these are new tiles that transition from the different tiles more cleanly)
Sculpted Lairs (You get one set, but if you have you, you can fight two of the same monster type on a tile without using the cardboard tile)
All of the Metal Minis
Hope that helps!
Hey recruittons, just want to thank you again for this. I had recurring trouble with my PayPal payments for this, and between them being really helpful and your list above, I was able to ensure that I got everything I wanted. Well, paid for everything I wanted...
I have to say that I like the way these guys are still updating their KS front page/pledge level images with pictures of the actual sculpts as they're shown...
I have to say that I like the way these guys are still updating their KS front page/pledge level images with pictures of the actual sculpts as they're shown...
I have to say that I like the way these guys are still updating their KS front page/pledge level images with pictures of the actual sculpts as they're shown...
I didn't know they were doing that!
(runs off to take a look...)
I looked and didn't see anything new. Am I missing something?
Well, you should not be able to see anything, kickstarter locks the frontpage the moment the project is funded, as an effort to prevent creators on changing the details, likewise the updates are locked from editing after half an hour IIRC.
Azazelx wrote: Hey recruittons, just want to thank you again for this. I had recurring trouble with my PayPal payments for this, and between them being really helpful and your list above, I was able to ensure that I got everything I wanted. Well, paid for everything I wanted...
I have to say that I like the way these guys are still updating their KS front page/pledge level images with pictures of the actual sculpts as they're shown...
No problem! I ended up getting every mini no included with the game, the quest and treasure decks and the Skald and Spriggan sleeves. This project has me on the edge of my seat for delivery, right up there with Kingdom Death
All the base game sculpts are finished and starting production. The stretch goals and additional purchases are in the sculpting process now.
On the printing side, we've agreed on the quote and have started the process of lining up all the little things that go along with printing in China: a schedule, logistics and delivery. Once these things are hammered out, we can move forward with art submission.
Hold on to your butts, but we believe we can deliver the base game and certain other elements (t-shirts) early. We intend to do everything in our power to make this a reality. We are pushing hard to have production copies of the game into our warehouse in November. The stretch goals and add-ons will still be in January. No additional shipping cost will be charged to you. We'll continue to update you on the possibilities of an early delivery. We are not saying that a November delivery is a 100% certainty. It is a company goal.
Apart from Mantic (and even then there were a few little details missed like the Z'zor mispack) Kickstarter delivery has not been going well for me, though Oathsworn is still on target. Hell Dorado just announced it was going to be delayed as well.
You can't make this stuff up! that's being really picky it's just the flame that's at issue - can't believe EA has the rights to that but why fight them it's not worth it.
EDIT: It appears this is what caused the problems
http://www.mythicentertainment.com/ fair enough then I suppose (hmmm see who EAs partner is )
Project Update #70: There is an EA in Cease and Desist
Posted by MERCS Miniatures Like
We have been busy and we certainly owe you an update. It was going to be last week but a bit of unpleasantness slithered into the world of Myth that had to be taken care of post haste.
Unpleasant news first:
On the 21st we received a cease and desist letter from EA asking us to not use the Myth logo. We were rather taken back by what it could mean, and went to our lawyer the next Monday. It appears they have legal rights to the use of flames on letters, numbers, and symbols. He strongly advised removing the flame. He said it had to do with the close proximity of in the court's eyes to video games and board game. Specifically, most courts will see them both as "games".
The solution was easy for us: remove the flame from the logo. It is shown below. Here is the important part. We need anyone who posted or used this logo anywhere to replace it with the new one. We'll take care of here and the BGG.
Furthermore, it is delaying the printing of certain elements a few weeks because we need to make sure this issue is resolved. As we posted previously, we were working towards delivering early (you'll see proof of the progress later in the update) so this delay won't affect the timeliness of the January delivery date. It is still too early to tell if it will push us out of the November base game goal.
The good news:
Nothing with the Myth logo has been approved for production.
We were set to start Hero and Darkness board printing (with the logo on the back of the boards) this week and that is delayed. But it is gigantically good news not to have wasted money on printing something that would have to be junked for legal reasons.
Progress:
I want to THANK YOU for those who assisted with rule book feedback. It only makes the game better. Well done.
I am taking your feedback from the released game rules and implementing them into the text. Many overlap, some contradict, some make me wonder where my head was at when I was writing it, and other make me wonder what you read.
Text:
85% of the rule book is done.
All items are done.
All hero decks are done.
All monsters are done.
All boss and boss decks are done, except for the fire drake, Urulok. He is still being tested.
All mini-bosses are done, except for Duncan's. He is in early design now.
95% of the quests are finished. Some are too long and need some trimming. Finally, I still need to do the 10 KS exclusive story quests.
Art:
All hero art is done.
All base game hero deck art is done.
All starting gear art is done.
All green item gear is done.
75% of the blue item gear is done.
All the non-realm boards are done.
90% of the realm tile boards art is done.
90% of the monster art is done. Marcus the Ready, Urulok, and Duncan are still unfinished.
50% of the counter art is done.
Production:
All base game miniatures are done. We'll have the samples in hand soon and we'll post an update with pictures.
Base game miniatures are in early production now.
60% of the stretch goal miniatures are in mid-stage sculpting. 30% are in early-stage sculpting. 10% have yet to be started (usual suspects here: Marcus, Urulok, and Duncan).
The dice are in production now.
The board printing was set to start early July. It will be late-July, early August.
Card printing begins in mid-July, late-July.
Rule book and box will be stragglers, but they are also the easiest to print and produce.
I would say we are in very good shape overall. So you can share my perspective, let me explain it like this. We were pushing so hard this summer because we strongly desired a 100% production copy of the base game (it would have been the first production sample) at GENCON. A byproduct of this goal was the base game would have been done and deliver in October. As it is, we'll have a 50% real copy at GENCON (all miniatures will be Myth's and cards will be real; no tiles however due to the delay). So we'll miss our initial goal for GENCON, but that still leaves two months to deliver all the base game components to the printer to have the base game delivered in November.
We have five months to get the stretch goal miniatures into production for a Jan release. Keeping in mind their current state, I would be surprised if they aren't done by October.
We have four months to finish the art for the stretch goals. Considering the progress already made and the time spent to finish the base game art, this will be done by September.
A new update with lots of pretty pictures has arrived!
More Minis!
Update #71 · Jul 9, 2013 · 14 comments
As I mentioned in the last update, we've been making some great progress on all fronts.
Most of the Stretch goal miniatures are ready to start the detail phase. Take a look....as always, these are still WIP. There are adjustments being made.
I can't compliment them enough for creating such a unique and well-realized aesthetic for their game. It really makes it stand out. And the sculpts, thus far, have been outstanding!
Also, that puppy really wants his butt scratched and a ball thrown!
The Flame Burns Bright!
Update #72 · Aug 5, 2013 · 44 comments
We are a week out from GENCON and are full speed ahead. ,First off, Myth will be at GENCON, so if you are attending swing by booth #1831. We will be having 1 standard game demo and 1 Slaughterfield demo (in addition to some MERCS demos and other non-Myth related surprises).
Now for an update on our progress.
Myth Base Game:
Miniatures - Done; In production
Hero Board - Done; End of August production
Darkness Board - Done; End of August production
Realm Tiles - 95% Done; End of August production
Punchboard (counters and tokens) - 75%
Hero Decks - Done; Beginning production
Darkness Deck - Done; Beginning production
Monster Cards - Done; Beginning production
Item Cards - Done; Beginning production
Quest Cards - 95% Done; End of August production
Rulebook - 95% Done; End of August production
The Realm, Quest, and Rulebook pieces are held up for the same reason: icons. The icons used to populate the Realms are also used on the Quest cards. These are close to done, but aren't. When they are, the tiles and quests can be finished (which in turn allows me to finish the realm setup chapter). These will be done by the end of August.
French translation is completely caught up with us (and pushing us for the final pieces). German has 70% of the stuff. Italian and Spanish, because they are only translating the rulebook, are in good shape.
We are as little concerned that that die-cut creation process for the punchboards and Hero boards will push us out of November. Like, I have said, it is an internal goal. We are pushing hard towards delivering early, but we won't sacrifice quality or a complete review process of the materials.
Myth Stretch Goals:
Miniatures - 70% done with sculpting; 20% molds; 10% production
Realm Tiles - In art
Hero Decks - In art (this is where Keith is spending his time right now)
Darkness Decks - Done
Monster Cards - Done
Item Cards - Done
Quest Cards - In writing (I have about 15 quests left to write.)
Card Sleeves - Getting samples
T-shirts - Done (with a surprise, see below)
Slaughterfield Supplement Pack - In art
Metal coins - Getting samples
We feel very comfortable with where the Stretch goals are. There are a couple pitfalls we are staring at way down the road, but we have identified them and are working to get solutions now.
Miscellaneous:
Our biggest issues at this point is warehousing. We are looking at a warehouse on Wednesday. Hopefully, this one is more like what we need.
Show & Tell:
We start this S&T with a couple cards from the Soldier deck: Impenetrable and Everyone Behind Me. There is a lot we can learn from just these two cards. Let's start at the top.
The icon for each Hero appears in the upper left. This icon remains the same throughout the various stages of the Hero's "level". Next to the icon is the name of the ability the card represents. Right away, you'll realize we have changed/updated the names to be more thematic. This was always planned. It is much more easy to use Cleave to communicate something to backers then it is to use Harvest of Bones.
Below the icon is the movement column. The open circle means the Hero is stationary. The half-circle means the Hero moved cautiously. The filled circle means the Hero moved normally. The circle with crescents means the Hero moved aggressively. Any bonuses associated with these moves are highlighted underneath the circle.
Underneath the name is the wonderful illustration Keith has interpreted from my text, hand waving, and unintelligent sound effects.
Below the illustration is the text that explains to the player what the ability does. I chose these cards because they have a lot of interesting tidbits. Card-types are bolded. Names of other abilities are italicized. Rage is a type of Hero card. Furthermore, on the Everyone Behind Me Hero card, there is a parenthetical: (Optional - Impenetrable). This means that this card may be played after Impenetrable if the player wants to. More importantly, it always means that the two cards have a synergy and can be used in combination to provide the Heroes with something "more". Everyone Behind Me can be played on its own to pass shield bonuses onto other adjacent Heroes. However, when played after Impenetrable, the adjacent Heroes receive the +1TN buff and any extra Rage played by the Soldier improves that benefit.
Each Hero has multiple card pairings that provide synergies. They are often associated with how a player wants to play their character. More often than not, these synergies appear in the level up cards. This means players are going to have to make decisions on how they want to play their characters, and use the card replacement reward at the end of an Act to mold the character they want to be.
Below the description are two icons: Action/Reaction and Action Points. The Action Points icon is in the bottom right corner. If there is one line colored red (as they are in both the cards), the 1 point is added to the Darkness Meter when each card is used. The AP icon is on a Darkness-type background so that they are reminded, through the graphic design that those points are added to the Darkness Meter.
The Action/Reaction is a circular arrow icon. The top arrow represents an Action. The bottom arrow, a Reaction. If both arrows are colored then it can be either an Action or a Reaction. What we have here is a combat reaction card. These Reactions are played during the Darkness Cycle only.
GENCON Surprise:
We will have a special GENCON Slaughterfield t-shirt. These shirts will also be available after Myth launches when the website goes up. We just thought it would be fun. It is certainly inspired by the absolute craziness that you, our backers, posted when Slaughterfield was announced.
I realize this is a GIANT update. I will cut the monster card section and post it on Wednesday. We'll also have pictures of the miniatures real (in-hand) and updated pics of sculpts on Monday of next week. We'll also post pictures of Myth at GENCON after the con is over.
Something Wicked This Way Comes
Update #73 · Aug 7, 2013 · 129 comments
Here is an example of the Monster cards.
The image associated with miniatures in the Realm is top-center. Underneath the art is the name of the Monster. Like the Hero abilities, we've went ahead and renamed the Monsters so they are bit more unique to Myth.
Arachnids = Crawlers
Arachnid Captains = Stalkers
Arachnid Boss = Terror with 1000 Legs
Orcs = Grubbers
Orc Captains = Muckers
Orc Boss = Orcneas, Master of Masters
In the upper left hand corner is the target number the Heroes need to hit the Monster, below that the Vitality, or hit points, per figure.
The upper right houses the movement points of the Monster, then the Courage stat. The Courage icon is replicated on the Hero tokens. Like all games, we use icons to quickly identify stats players will need to reference.
The red box on the right of the card is used during Darkness Activation. It contains the target priorities for that Monster-type. It also contains the Threat Range. We group information according to when you need it. Information you'll need together is grouped together and isolated graphically.
The lower portion of the card is used for Spawns: Normal and Heavy specifically.
The center left box contains all the information the players need to know when the Monsters attack the Heroes. The number by the sword icon is TN the Monster needs to hit the Hero. This TN is modified by the Heroes armor, shield, and abilities played. Underneath the Attack header are the details associated with the attack:
1x1, 1d10, 1 damage per hit = each Shambler gets 1 attack on 1 target using 1d10 that does 1 damage per successful hit.
Captains, and Boss-types are much more formidable, but the information is presented the same.
Any Monster that has a special ability is listed below the attack. In this case, if a Soulless is out on the tile, then a Shambler when it is killed rolls 1 Fate Dice. If the result is a Darkness symbol, then they resurrect. Sometimes these special abilities are extra damage, or another activation. Captains and Bosses have multiple Fate Dice abilities.
The Heroes and the Horde
Update #74 · Aug 13, 2013 · 62 comments
A bit of the now and future in this update.
Those coming to GENCON will touch and feel all the minis in the base game and some of the stretch goals. They are amazing. These minis are metal, but they are made from the plastics. The sculpts are the same. They look identical. We simply needed to create the metal molds per the add-ons (which are more than half done now) and we do that locally. In turn, this allows us to create the minis that we are bringing to the show.
I can't wait for people to see them. My lame picture taking just doesn't do them justice.
The WIP progress sculpts are approved.
The last pictures is an example of Minions and their Captain.
DAMN!
Those miniatures look great!
UPDATE #75
Long Live the Players
Update #75 · Aug 20, 2013 · 148 comments
We had a fantastic GENCON. The Myth tables were never empty.
Basically, the demo consisted of an extended hall set piece with the falling ceiling trap and a hunting pack. Heroes need to engage and kill the three Minions and hurry through the hall. Opening with this setup in the demo is quite important (we have found) because it teaches players how to use Move cards in conjunction with attack cards. It also allows the players to become more familiar with the Hero decks.
As the demo giver, you can quickly tell who has watched the videos and who didn't. Kenny and I both gave demos of Myth. We pretty much spent every hour for four days at a table doing a Myth demo. The majority of the players were KS backers. I am sure they were hoping to see if their investment in Myth was a mistake. I told each and every one after the demo to post comments and reviews in all the usual places so that you not able to play yet can feel a little relief in your purchase.
Players seemed to enjoy themselves a great deal. I am being purposefully cautious here. In truth, I didn't have a single person leave the table disappointed in their experience, with many being very straight forward in their praise of the experience. I think many were surprised at how good the game actually is. Kenny and I spoke afterwards how you could see it on the players faces light up as they began to understand how the game worked and how different each game could be.
The second set in the demo was a small room. It was communicated how the players control how each experience is customized and how realm tile setup works. We touched on the "realm legends" used to populate the tiles and how these icons are replicated in the quest cards. Players were forced to do a quest in this 6x6, so they could see how quests worked. We also populated the tile with a Lair (if the quest didn't call for one) and in some cases a Hunting Pack. We tried to incorporate every Monster-type we had available in the demo and in most cases we were successful.
More than a few Heroes died. For the most part, the players quickly learned how much table talk and communication was necessary to not just thrive, but to survive. In fact, in most of our demos, after the players got through their decks once, we could just sit back and answer questions. Many players stayed and watched other demos and remarked how each group seemed to tackle the same challenges differently.
I hope all those that demoed use this update as a chance to share their experience, good or bad. I know a few planned on doing BGG write-ups.
I worked for Jim Bailey and the Grindhouse team as a freelancer off and on from 2008 through 2011. My role was to do finished illustrations for the 1st edition game and expansion.
Ok the trip down memory lane is over! Now Incursion is being re-launched on KS. This time the game and expansion come packed with all the plastic miniatures (originally you had to get them separately in metal), as well as all the components done in a higher quality. Additionally they've got some great new add-on models coming out with this campaign.
I hope you'll take moment and check it out. If you like what you see, show them some support!
Always cool to see 'competitors' helping each other out!
Next, this was really, REALLY cool:
The Big and the Small
Update #77 · Aug 29, 2013 · 76 comments
From the beginning we wanted Myth to look cool on the table. We wanted there to be various sizes of miniatures, as well as detailed interesting places to adventure.
The first image is the almost-completed Bones boss. He is soooo cool. He also happens to be gigantic. His blade-arms are about 5 inches wide. For perspective, he would be 5 squares on the 6 x 6 tiles attached below.
I have pretty much fallen in love with this figure.
Most of the 2nd round of sculpts are in this stage. They aren't final, but very close. Keith has sent back minor corrections on the majority of them. Small tweaks, then they will finalize the lines and the textures.
I have also attached the final renders of the base game tiles (three that flow together and the campfire). We'll get together tomorrow and finalize these. Those not at GENCON can get a good look at the icons used in the legends. We have to make final adjustments to the opacity of the legend and add the outlines for LoS and movement blockers.
Hopefully, you can see all small detail in these (I'll post higher res versions to BGG this morning). These tiles are alive and interesting. The lights radiate and cause shadows. This is just a small sample, but you get the idea. These files have the bleed showing, so it might look like they have two edges.
Next up for Keith is rulebook layout (next week) and box. Basically the last two things; everything else will be at the printer and in production.
A new update posted. Sounds like there's a good chance we might be getting some of the stuff early!
Man have WE been busy, hehe.
What do you want first, the good news or the good news?
We have our warehouse. We become tenants October 1. This was a big one. Basically, we needed a location that we could afford (and made sense beyond just Myth), that would hold 190 pallets. Yeah, it's like that.
We found exactly what we need and were in negotiations for about 3 weeks. Whatta ya gonna do, lawyers need to eat, too. I hear they are struggling.
This was a very large hurdle in receiving the product and delivering it early.
The second hurdle would be production. I am happy to say, we seem to be doing very well on this front as well. Of course, anything can happen in production (or in shipping), but I feel very good about where we are.
We won't know if we can deliver early until mid-October. There is a specific date we have given all the people in production, and we know they are trying to hit it. If they do, then success. If they don't, then you'll just have to receive the game on time.
I don't like to do an update without a little show with my tell, so here are the production models. The models will all be pre-assembled. I am showing you some pics of the cuts because I want you to see that we are very experienced with miniatures and have (with the help of the production facility) tried to hide as many of the glue seams as possible. Experienced miniatures players will understand the importance of this. For the uninitiated, it means you won't see the line where the parts are put together.
These are the plastics you will be receiving. This isn't bending plastic. These miniatures won't fall over or be warped. These are good hobby game plastic miniatures.
I know some of you have wondered. We are doing all the models in two shades of gray. The Heroes are lighter. The Darkness miniatures will be a darker shade of gray.
I'm not generally a fan of pre assembled miniatures the people gluing them together are never as careful as you are, but as I don't have any plans to paint this game (well maybe I can fit it in in 4 or 5 years time ) I can live with it and this is more aimed at the board gamer than the miniature gamer the former like to play straight out of the box the latter expect some prep work. It's looking good though.
Yeah, that's too bad, but those minis still look quite nice, and they're simple enough stylistically that cracks (however avoidable they would have been if you could do it yourself) could get filled w/o a ton of effort, I htink
Early in the design process, before the Kickstarter had began, a friend and I were talking about role-playing games and board games that try to simulate an RPG feel. Chris Hausermann is a pretty smart guy and can cut to the core of an issue quicker than most. One of his more salient points was the lack of good fortune. It is really quite simple, good things do happen and to have a game where only bad things happens makes it feel a little too ridiculous, and somehow more fake.
Many weeks later, that conversation bore fruit. I started playing with a system that allows Heroes to experience a bit of good fortune in Myth. We call it Serendipity. There are four levels of rewards that can be purchased with Serendipity ranging from a simple bonus to a powerful boon, like the assistance of an Ally. Players earn Serendipity through the completion of quests and through overcoming traps. Serendipity works outside of Myth's defined boundaries. It can be used at any time. It is a resource for the players to neutralize bad luck. When Serendipity is spent, it is gone.
With the Allies, we wanted the world to feel alive. We wanted there to be a reason they are helping you. In this case, you have earned their trust. Quests intersect and you will get to know the people that populate this part of the world. They aren't here and gone, but often have involved chain quests that have in the end can earn that person as an Ally. They become your friends and will help you when you need it.
And help you will need...
Not exactly the opposite of an Ally, but a subset of Mini-bosses are Agents. Agents are individuals that willfully or unconsciously are doing the Darkness' bidding. In some cases, they have entire quest chains that tell their story, like our own Duncan's Trickster-level avatar, Doncaldah. Agents are not killed, but escape to harass the Heroes again and again. More importantly, defeating an Agent awards the group of players a single unique Agent ability card. This card can be added to a Hero deck, much like the advanced Hero cards.
I should have stated that like the Twilight Knight, everyone who backed at Captain or higher is getting 1 Doncaldah for free, care of Duncan who purchased the first Trickster level.
Finally, we have Urulók, the fire drake. He is barely an adolescent, but his wingspan is wider than Bones' blades. I wish I could make the image bigger. It is amazing.
Production update
The entire base game is in production. When we get the production sample, we'll make a video and post the unboxing (it will still be a few weeks).
Of the 45 unique stretch goal/KS miniatures only 19 have not been approved. Of the 19 remaining, 9 received last adjustments last week and we expect to approve them soon. That leaves only 10 sculpts in various stages of development. Urulok and Doncaldah are just beginning the process.
Card Sleeves are in production sample process.
Metal coins and tokens are in molding.
Translations are going very well. French and German continue to plow forward and do a fantastic job. Their level of communication in taking care of possible issues has been extraordinary. Really, great stuff. They are translating all the extra stuff, too. We need to provide final rulebook files to Italian and Spanish, but those languages are just pdfs, so production time doesn't have to be built into the schedule.
We will be at Essen. We will be doing Myth demos with German translated and English cards. It is a replica of the demo we did at GENCON. We'll be in the Ulisses Spiele booth. When I know the exact hall location and booth number, I'll let you know.
For our European friends, we can't wait to meet you.
For those wondering, we'll be giving EVERYONE a chance to update their address in the PM as we move closer to shipping. It is simply too early. I have had several people already move twice, HA!
On a personal note, I was telling the guys how proud I am of this game. I CAN'T wait for you guys to get it. It is going to blow you away.
Shall we cut to the quick? We won't deliver the game early (even if we could), but for a much different reason than expected. It has nothing to do with production or shipping or customs...it has to do with taxes.
We met with our CPA last Friday for about 3 hours. In non-accounting speak, if we receive the shipment too early in the year, the value of the inventory is added to the value of the business and is taxed. We were clever with the comings and goings of the actual KS cash, we just didn't quite understand the significance of the actual shipment. After going through all the tricks and wizardry the CPAs could do to speed up or delay reporting specific elements, if we receive the shipment early we would owe somewhere in the vicinity of 200k to the taxman. This is something we wish to avoid.
However, because we had that goal internally, we worked very hard to finish writing, art and sculpts. In the end, it will be the reason the game is on time, but still...I wish it was going to be early.
I am very sorry. I am sure many of you are as disappointed as I am. I'll cheer us up next week with a miniatures update and some new art.
Oct 17, 2013
Like a Chicken With His Head Cut Off...
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I apologize from the beginning. I try to keep updates fairly cohesive in theme--not this one. This update is going to be all over the place (hence the title).
Essen Spiele
We will be in the Ulisses Spiele booth. The hall is number 2, booth 2-B116. It will have a very green carpet. We will have one of the German translators on hand to help with questions on the demo. We'll be running the demos. It will be identical to the demo at Gencon (though we may use a couple different quests). There will be both English, German, and French translated hero decks available for use.
We'll do an update after Essen with pictures of the show and the reception of Myth by the mob.
Softproofs
We looked at and approved softproofs for the printed materials this last Monday (Oct 14th). Although it is of no consolation at this point, we in fact did meet our internal deadline.
Hardproofs
We will receive physical samples of all printed materials while we are gone to Essen. Cautiously Optimistic is the term we are looking for. We find out if the materials received in samples hold up under ink and carry the colors the way we hoped they would. This is also the earliest possible warning indicator on board warping (something we have stressed with the printer).
We'll do some pictures and a video.
Sculpts
I had hoped to have some pictures of the finished second wave, but fate it would seem did not smile on me today (they are finished and approved, but the pictures haven't appeared on Dropbox yet). Regardless, we should have samples of those figures in our hands 1st week of November.
I do have one figure I can show. The final sculpt of Marcus the Ready. We should have resins of him today. He is pretty awesome. He stands Hero height. I'll provide resin pics with size comparisons to the Heroes in the post Essen update with the other finished second wave sculpts.
Hobby Miniatures
Though Myth be a board game, it is a miniatures game as well. To this end, we expect a lot of painting and modded Myth miniatures as the game enters the marketplace. If people wanted to paint Myth figures they could and the figures would be of such quality that they would hold paint well and allow the true details in the figures to be revealed.
Elizabeth Beckley did us a solid and put some paint on the Heroes. We'll have the figures in hand shortly, but she was kind enough to send some pictures...of which only the Acolyte appeared. Weird. I can see them . Too bad for you.
Post Script
They must have updated. We can now put images in the text. Commence rejoicing. I feel like I have too much power now...
Bummer about these being pre-assembled, but it looks like they're doing a good job with the updates. I passed by their booth at GenCon but couldn't see too much since it was packed... but pre-assembled definitely kicks these models more to the "board game pieces" rather than "wargaming miniatures" side of the fence.
Nov 6, 2013 What a Difference One Day Makes 67 comments 58 likes
I was stopped at an intersection in town yesterday and a dump truck decided he needed to use my lane. Long story short, yesterday was an arduous day. I was not harmed, thankfully.
Ouch
I got home and there was a FedEx slip on the door. Immediately, hoped filled my formally unfriendly frame. Today, that hope was realized in the delivery of our printer proofs.
I will begin with an explanation of what you will be seeing. There are three things involved with printer proofs, also called hard proofs: the final full color printed pieces on paper (not cut out, or glued onto cards and boxes), the unprinted (white) version of the game with real materials and treatments, and a completely put together version with poor printing and materials to check front and back printing.
For those familiar with Space Hulk, the Myth box is slightly taller.
For those familiar with Amerigo, Myth is the same size.
We received the hard proofs this morning at 10:00. We began looking at them for art quality, print clarity, missing components, and overall excitement.
All pieces laid out, organized, and counted.
One of the most important pieces to us, as I have told you are the boards. The boards are nice. Very sturdy, and no warping thus far. Nothing in the real sample components feels cheap. Very high quality stuff. We were very pleased.
The guts are organized with a two section partition, which also provides stability for the middle of the box.
All the card proofs held Keith's art spectacularly. Really good color. Nice and bright.
Quests.
Baddies.
Items and Merchants.
Images of the minis coming next, then a Slaughterfield video per your requests.
Really looking forward to those pictures of the minis...
This is so picture heavy I'm going to spoiler tag it.
Project Update #85: Second Helpings, with a Side of Lore.
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Here is that minis update I have been promising you. Some of these you have seen before, but they had minor tweaks or I am telling you a little bit about them now and didn't want you to have to hunt through all the updates.
Spoiler:
Air Iathi
Fire Iathi
Earth Iathi
Iao
We wanted all the names of the elemental Monster-type to share the name of their mother "Ia, the Foundation". All Iathi are created from within Ia.
The Darkness' grip on its armies is tenuous at best. Many of these creatures have a history with each other: the Iathi and Sycline hate each other. Sycline use weapons made from slain Iathi.
Sycline
Sycline
Sycleech
The Sycline are not Cyclops. They are a plant. They begin as an "eye-stalk" that detaches from the Lair (see below) and attaches to a host's spine. It slowly takes over, eventually growing over the host's head forming a large eye-ball and changing them. The locals call them Syclops because the final product reminds people of the mythical Cyclops.
Syclopt
Eventually, if enough time passes, an eye-stalk can become one of these. Unlike some of the other creatures, this Boss isn't unique.
Tailless
Tailless
Rath
The rats are very much an intelligent species. They have a hierarchy. They have a King (who won't be revealed quite yet...hehehe). Through many of the quests, the Heroes notion of "evil" is challenged. The Tailless are an important step in learning this lesson. The rats are very much an unfortunate species. They are taken advantage of by their King, by the Darkness, and by other creatures...even ones much smaller.
Keesi & Og
Keesi is the Grubber on the back of the less intelligent Og.
Orcneas, Master of Masters
A mighty foe, Orcneas, Master of Masters commands his forces with a supreme hand. And yes, Master of Masters must be added as an honorific when addressing Orcneas, Master of Masters...every time.
Bones
Bones is held up by the skeletons of the last four heroes that tried to defeat him.
The Twilight Knight
Some of the sculpted Traps and Lairs. There are more of both.
Avatar of Winter
There will be Dragon heads on the little outcroppings along the pillar.There will be Dragon heads on the little outcroppings along the pillar.
Things are going along well. Production has started on the second wave. That leaves only a few sculpts unapproved: Etrus/Minotaur, the Rat King, the Dragon/Urulok, and Duncan's Trickster level mini/Donnchadh.
January at the earliest they can' t have the stock on hand at the end of December or they will get taxed on it so they will get it in early January and then start shipping it.
