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Post by: Breotan
Those Warrior Nation archers are much better looking with an arrow in their hands instead of the pantamime pose they had before. I know it wasn't what you initially wanted, but I think these just look so much better. Thanks for going this direction with them.  I dunno... even that hawk had a ' wtf?' look to it there in the opening credits. Doesn't bode well when your animal talent is unsure of your artistic vision. ;P And what was he doing messing with that Cylon chick? Doesn't he know what Cylons do for a living?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Toast bread?
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Post by: Madmick
Just seen this on the WWX Kickstarter page. Has some great info on a new faction that has yet to be announced (until now ofc).
I really like what he has planned in order to protect brick and mortar stores as I really do think that it will keep them alive and kicking.
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"Saw this in the Kickstarter comments. Has some good information about future factions Lawmen and Holy Order. Does a brief mention of Confederate, El Ejercito Dorado and Watchers.
http://www.40kradio.com/wp-content/uploads/Show58.mp3
Starts at 29 minutes and last for about 30 minutes."
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Anyway, hope you enjoy.
Mick
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Post by: RiTides
Well the Warrior Nation wave 2 hired hands are basically unlocked. The only other feasible things at this point, imo, are all the light support vehicles wave 2. Not sure if they'll all make it in or not.
But that's actually a really good point for this KS to make it to. I know there were a few factions that didn't get in, but 4 is a pretty good number of factions to start a game with (such as Dropzone Commander did).
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Post by: Madmick
Hi RiTides,
Hi mate, long time no see. how you been?
Outlaw states that there will be a surprise at $300,000 but I hope we get the Blackjack at least. Guess we will find out in about 30+ hours.
I am really happy that we have got so far on this KS and I think the wait till September will feel like a really long wait. :( We have organised a meet up for us UK lot, so hopefully we will get to try out the Beta rule set. Have you read the rules yet RiTides? Did you see what a mystery customer has done and sponsored the making of a personal model to give to all the pledgers!! :O we couldn't believe it when we found out on the update, lol. really nice gesture imho.
Speak Soon.
Mick
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Post by: RiTides
Well, I didn't read the rules, since I was only interested in cherry-picking models and not picking up a new game. At this point I've decided to wait until the models are released, but I am rooting for this to pass 300K at least to find out what the surprise is.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Well even a few cherry pickers at the $45 buy-in would help out. I can't stress that 30% off coupon enough.
I know, if I can hold it at least, I'll be using that coupon on lawmen.
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Post by: cincydooley
So much for the late boost we thought this thing would get. I would have bet it would have easily been at $325 right now......
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Post by: RiTides
It still might break 300K, 25K on the last day is not unheard of (two separate smaller campaigns I have been a part of / watched have made 18-19K on the last day, even though their totals were well under 100K).
Earth Dragon, can you explain the coupon to me? So if I pledge for anything at all I get a coupon to... buy future items at 30% off... or something?
Honestly, I'll be tempted to pledge for the great elk and Geronimo (a total of $52) and just select the $45 pledge level. I see that Geronimo is listed as Wave 2, when are those supposed to ship? (And what wave is the Elk in?)
Will be interesting to watch this end!
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Post by: timd
Looks like some people have been changing (upgrading) or canceling pledges recently. Early Bird Wicked and Fiendish each had one slot open this morning.
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Post by: Lyquis
I'm pretty sure they dropped the coupon idea.
I pledged for corrupt today, this game looks amazing. I've already started building a table for it. I can't wait to get that train.
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Post by: Alpharius
We've been told that there's a super special double secret probation 30% off coupon though...
Looks like earlier concerns about this may be justified?
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Post by: skarsol
First rule of 30% off coupon...
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Post by: frank6002
RiTides I see that Geronimo is listed as Wave 2, when are those supposed to ship? (And what wave is the Elk in?)
The wave 2 hired hands should ship in September with everything else (exception being the Union rail which will be October). The Warrior Nation Elk is first wave heavy support choice.
The surprise that has been talked about the past few day's is being posted in around an hour Looking forward to it.
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Post by: carboncopy
I wouldn't count on the coupon idea. It might happen, but I'm not sure given that another deal posted in the comments section in regards to trade-ins was taken back. The resolution to that issue was the previous deal was incorrect and the main kickstarter page was to be the final source of info (which was changed to make trade-ins more clear).
So I don't trust any side deals. I know the coupon isn't allowed on Kickstarter, but have they even posted this info on their own forums?
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Post by: RiTides
Thanks Frank- are the wave 1 items shipping earlier, though, or also in September?
Depending on the answer to the above... if I don't pay extra shipping, does everything get held until wave 2 ship dates, or do things get sent separately?
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Post by: frank6002
Both waves are being shipped together for delivery in September (hopefully early September  ) Outlaw said this was to save on shipping costs. Automatically Appended Next Post: LAWMAN mini starter with Boss, Underboss, 2 Sidekicks and a box of Hired hands is unlocking at $300,000 Fingers crossed.
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Post by: Alpharius
Any pics of the mini-starter Lawmen Faction stuff yet?
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Post by: cincydooley
That 25k to get there seems a long way away. I didn't realize there weren't even 1000 backers.....
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Post by: Madmick
All Items ship together. the wave system is a system that they appear on the stretch goals.
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The only pictures up to now are the previously posted ones of the law droid and Wyatt Earp. Sorry for the massive pictures.
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Post by: Alpharius
They should have had the Lawmen unlock sooner - I know I would have been in already if they were available!
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Post by: frank6002
I think this is what they are now thinking, do agree though I think more people would have jumped on board.
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Post by: carboncopy
I think they were waiting to see how the campaign would go. They announced that they had a surprise at 300k a number of days ago.
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Post by: Breotan
$285k is what I'm interested in.
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Post by: Madmick
We have still done good though tbh. All factions seem to have a lot of followers. I will be going Warrior Nation, Outlaws and Union. With the models we have I think there is a good scope for games/models and they are plastic or resin which is a confident move. Really like the Outlaws vehicles and HH the most though.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
If someone on a PC can find the link in the comments section about the 30% coupon it would be very much appreciated. I'm on my phone and it just takes too long for things to load. It's probably gonna be around page 20. Very chatty comments section.
And HOLy HELL I hope we get lawmen.
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 cincydooley wrote:That 25k to get there seems a long way away. I didn't realize there weren't even 1000 backers.....
If you look at the backer gains over the last three days, it may actually break 1000 tomorrow. Slower then I thought, but it did pick up!!
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 Alpharius wrote:They should have had the Lawmen unlock sooner - I know I would have been in already if they were available!
Initially it was a budget thing. Personally, I feel lawmen should have been on the initial 4 list over the enlightened, but it is what it is. My guess: Romeo decided to replug that 80k in for the lawmen he had invested, knowing he had the money for the other stuff now.
Super excited about this though!!
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Thanks frank but that isn't the right one. Outlaw made a comment saying we were still getting it, they just couldn't advertise it our make it a stretch goal. It's just hard for me to find it again/ link it from my phone. But if you look earlier in the comments, I copied it so I know it's there.
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Broke 900 backers and still climbing steadily
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Post by: frank6002
New images for the Lawmen has been posted. Thinking they look very cool
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The new Lawmen characters  More in a mo
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Post by: Earth Dragon
It's official. Lawmen will be $60 starter box add-on only at 300k.
904 backers. Almost 281k with 24 hrs left
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
Here's the most recent comment from Outlaw Games on the 30% off coupon
@Ross - yes I know what you mean by that but we can't actually promote that on here. If you remember we offered that cool 30% discount reward on any after ks purchases. Kickstarter was on us like white on rice to pull that down. So will there be backer rewards after ks, yes. Can we openly tell you what they are during the ks, no. You just have to wait and see for yourself. 
Mar. 07, 2013 on Wild West Exodus - Sci-Fi Western Miniatures Game.
so it looks to still be on offer
(pulled off their comments feed http://www.kickstarter.com/profile/wildwestexodus/comments)
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Post by: RiTides
Thanks, Orlando!
And the Lawmen boost will make this hit 300K, I think. It's gone at a really good clip the last few hours.
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Post by: cincydooley
Hopefully Holliday won't be so static.
Also, I think the judges hair looks stupid. I understand why they did it, bit i don't like it. :-/
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Post by: RiTides
Only needs 15K to get to 300K now... I feel like it needed 25K to get there just, what, 5 hours ago?
It's going to surpass it easily at this rate... the Lawmen were a good call!
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Post by: Madmick
 RiTides wrote:Only needs 15K to get to 300K now... I feel like it needed 25K to get there just, what, 5 hours ago?
It's going to surpass it easily at this rate... the Lawmen were a good call!
Hi,
It has taken 10k in just about 2 hrs in total. And most of the UK + Europe would have been in bed ready for work in the morning.
I just hope we get to at least the blackjack personally.
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Post by: Yonan
You can't get wave 2 hired hands in the starter boxes can you? So if you want them, you pledge another $50 for the straight 10 hired hands?
edit: Also with that 30% discount, is it better to wait for the majority of the pledge to do it after the KS? Or is that to make the prices equal so its a wash?
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Post by: cincydooley
No, you can opt to swap the wave two hired hands for the wave 1 if you'd like.
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Post by: Madmick
There can not be wave 2 HH in starters correct.
It depends on what you wish to buy. Repulsive is sitting at about 70% discount. So you would have to plan it out. But then you would also be paying 2x P&P. :(
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
The 30% off coupon is just a minor bonus,
KS prices are cheaper than that anyway so if you want it and can afford it get it now
Using the coupon later you'll save a little more than you'd get from an internet discounter who'd probably offer free shipping too
It's actually not a bad move for outlaw since selling to you at 70% of retail price will still get them more cash than selling to a distributor (usually 50-60% of retail), and if there's a discount in your pocket you're more likely to pick up someting extra
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Post by: Madmick
For Info:
WWX miniatures will not be sold to Internet discount stores btw.
He states this in his move to secure brick and mortar stores on a couple of the podcasts that he has done.
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Post by: Yonan
Interesting, thanks for the info ; )
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
But am I correct in assuming there will be some form of online purchase possible, even via a website that offers MSRP?
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Post by: Hulksmash
Wow, I'm out just based on the no internet stores bit. Good luck to all on this.
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Post by: carboncopy
Alright, I'm officially out. Not even the Lawmen can rope me in. My understanding is that Romeo has history of blurting things out to make a sale and then backtracking. This is apparently no exception.
Here is what I've seen, just so everyone is informed.
On Mar. 12 it was confirmed that starter set Hired Hands could be swapped out for Hired Hands set 2. This was retracted and said it never was that way. When called on it, he said he may have been "tired" or quick to post.
The FAQ was updated to clarify the whole trading process, and it sort of has. But this evening it's been stated that the heavy weapons hired hands in the starter set couldn't be traded for the set 2, and according to him this was again the way it always was. Even though I'm staring at the FAQ right now that says:
"A starter that features a heavy weapon hired hand can be swapped just for the wave 2 version of that hired hand in the same faction."
How more specific can you get?
Anyway, they may seem like small issues, but it's more the fact that the guy can't own up to his mistakes, and is apparently just lying to people to make a sale (unless he is truly delirious and doesn't know what he's said). I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but given this has happened a second time within the kickstarter and his history of previous incidents I can't afford to support this kind of bad business.
Best of luck. I hope you guys get a good game and are happy with the products and service you receive.
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Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured
 Madmick wrote:For Info:
WWX miniatures will not be sold to Internet discount stores btw.
He states this in his move to secure brick and mortar stores on a couple of the podcasts that he has done.
That's good to know, and makes the coupon more important for later
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Post by: RiTides
Madmick wrote: RiTides wrote:Only needs 15K to get to 300K now... I feel like it needed 25K to get there just, what, 5 hours ago?
It's going to surpass it easily at this rate... the Lawmen were a good call!
Hi,
It has taken 10k in just about 2 hrs in total. And most of the UK + Europe would have been in bed ready for work in the morning.
I just hope we get to at least the blackjack personally.
Blackjack is at 305K, right? Should easily make it in, I think.
Unlike Maryland in the NCAA tourney 
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Post by: Earth Dragon
 Mathieu Raymond wrote:But am I correct in assuming there will be some form of online purchase possible, even via a website that offers MSRP?
Yes there will be. I forget the date they said it was going up.
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Post by: cincydooley
Wait wait. In my fiendish I can't make make one of my sets the wave two models for my faction of choice? Am I hearing that correctly?
And models in the future won't be sold by any other online retailers? Is that right?
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Post by: Alfndrate
carboncopy wrote:Alright, I'm officially out. Not even the Lawmen can rope me in. My understanding is that Romeo has history of blurting things out to make a sale and then backtracking. This is apparently no exception.
Here is what I've seen, just so everyone is informed.
On Mar. 12 it was confirmed that starter set Hired Hands could be swapped out for Hired Hands set 2. This was retracted and said it never was that way. When called on it, he said he may have been "tired" or quick to post.
The FAQ was updated to clarify the whole trading process, and it sort of has. But this evening it's been stated that the heavy weapons hired hands in the starter set couldn't be traded for the set 2, and according to him this was again the way it always was. Even though I'm staring at the FAQ right now that says:
"A starter that features a heavy weapon hired hand can be swapped just for the wave 2 version of that hired hand in the same faction."
How more specific can you get?
Anyway, they may seem like small issues, but it's more the fact that the guy can't own up to his mistakes, and is apparently just lying to people to make a sale (unless he is truly delirious and doesn't know what he's said). I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but given this has happened a second time within the kickstarter and his history of previous incidents I can't afford to support this kind of bad business.
Best of luck. I hope you guys get a good game and are happy with the products and service you receive."
And that sadly is one of the reasons why I'm not a fan of Romeo...
As to the Lawmen that were posted a few posts up, the judge just looks outright stupid with that wig on. Were judges even wearing those wigs in the mid 1800s? And I was hoping with the concept art we saw of Earp, we'd get something equally as nice out of the mini art with him and Doc... Pretty static if you ask me :-\
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Post by: drazz
Yes, some judges were still wearing the wigs. Some in the UK still do.
No online retailer? Hmmm.
No swapping for Wave 2? Payment withdrawn. That was not stated earlier, and looked pretty clearly that you could swap. Not good.
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Post by: Absolutionis
To be honest, the guy with the pistol and shield looks rather cool... in concept... The Judge also looks amusing enough that I'd love to have one as a goofy joke. Most of the figures themselves look silly enough that I'd get one only for the novelty.
I'd honestly consider getting the figures via Kickstarter had Romeo of Battlefoams not been involved.
The lack of online retailer support probably means I'll never get it. I rather doubt B&M retailers will take the significant risk of stocking this game when Malifaux and Warmachine are so similar in theme and already successful. Essentially, that'll mean the only way to get it is from Battlefoam itself online.
When the actual photographs of the figures come out beyond concepts, maybe it'll draw more people. As it stands, it's an untried and untested company with regards to miniature casting, so quality is questionable. The other companies such as Kingdom Death, Studio McVey, CMoN, Soda Pop, and especially Reaper are known and tried companies. I understand the purpose of Kickstarter is to crowd-fund the unknown, but from the customer's perspective it's a difficult choice to jump on. That being considered, it's rather astounding that this Kickstarter campaign has been as successful as it as considering the experience of the people involved.
In a (very) few months' time, the miniatures will be released and we'll see. I just hope that the inexplicable 35mm scale won't look absurdly out-of-place with the more common 32mm Steampunk/SciFi/Western terrain and models many of us already have.
Obviously, many of us skeptics can only be delightfully surprised in three months when all these models suddenly appear.
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Post by: Empchild
Dave.taylor.on his blog has one of the minis. After hearing about the support nope can't do it and thats just bad business.
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Post by: Yonan
 Empchild wrote:Dave.taylor.on his blog has one of the minis. After hearing about the support nope can't do it and thats just bad business.
Nice, I looked into it and found this. I don't like the model but the detailing/casting is done well by the looks so I'm pretty happy with how the Outlaws will turn out. edit: Link to the blog.
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Post by: cincydooley
Nice find dude. Casting does look solid. At least Malifaux plastics quality.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Romeo actually owned up to his mistake, said he was sorry about the Heavy Weapons shortly after he said you couldn't switch them out and said the FAQ was right.
Creator Outlaw Miniatures, LLC about 2 hours ago
Hi Charlie - I can see how that is confusing. I read my post from earlier and you are right. I completely did a typo that caused some issues. The FAQ is correct, I just typed out the wrong info as I have been asked the same question so many times I read heavy weapon hired hands as hired hands.
Sorry for causing more of a mess by firing back that silly reply. I will simply address all swap and trade questions with "Please see the FAQ". Its really the simplest way to keep everything clear moving forward.
I would highly suggest we all do the same on the comments. Trying to answer something without knowing for sure will only cause more confusion. Please, please guys just refer trade questions to the FAQ.
I know we all want to help each other out and do the right thing. I'm on your side here. I'm not holding stuff back to make you guys feel cheated. I'm with you the whole way.
In Jesse and The FAQ we Trust
I can understand frustration, but he did own up and did apologize. Though I'm sure there is some irreversible damage.
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Post by: cincydooley
The trade-in confusion is maddening.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
There was also a mistake on a google spreadsheet causing a problem (the heavy weapon switch issue) but that is third party, and so some backers were misinforming others.
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Basically, read the FAQ if you wanna trade
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Post by: RiTides
 Yonan wrote: Empchild wrote:Dave.taylor.on his blog has one of the minis. After hearing about the support nope can't do it and thats just bad business.
Nice, I looked into it and found this. I don't like the model but the detailing/casting is done well by the looks so I'm pretty happy with how the Outlaws will turn out.
edit: Link to the blog.
Wow, nice find! Not sure why they don't have that pic front and center.
Approaching 290K now... I actually think it will have broken 300K by the time I wake up, with the normal "day" time for the US yet to go on Monday.
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Post by: Bossk_Hogg
Madmick wrote:For Info:
WWX miniatures will not be sold to Internet discount stores btw.
He states this in his move to secure brick and mortar stores on a couple of the podcasts that he has done.
Given that the two biggest US internet discounters are ALSO brick and mortar stores, I'm not sure how much control he'll have.
Hey, does Wicked get the Ladies of the West set? Its on the main page in the graphic, but not listed in the side bar...
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Yes. If it's in the graphics you get it.
I was thinking the same thing. If they can't discount via the web, thewarstore just does it over the phone, and there is nothing you can do about that. I guess it will be less rampant, and they could always exclude them from being at the forefront of getting product early. Other then that, expect to see it 20% off just not advertised via the web.
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Post by: Gamingdog
carboncopy wrote:My understanding is that Romeo has history of blurting things out to make a sale and then backtracking. This is apparently no exception.
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How involved is Romeo with Wild West Exodus?
I'm planning on dropping close to $700.00 please explain or give an example of Romeo being a dishonest business man. I've never dealt with Battlefoam so I have no personal experience with Romeo or his company and have assumed that it was a good company on the up and up. if you have an example or could point me to an example of unethical business practices perpetrated by Romeo I would be extremely interested to hear about it and please post before the end of the campaign.
This looks like an amazing project and I really would like to back it but I don't want to loose any money.
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Post by: skarsol
Saying he's not going to sell it to online discounters is just a push to get you to pledge now, cause there wont be discounts later. Supposedly. But not really.
It's amusing how all the niche players can say "no discounting!" and it's "protecting the FLGS" but when GW tries to prevent online sales, it's the end of the universe. 
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Gamingdog wrote:carboncopy wrote:My understanding is that Romeo has history of blurting things out to make a sale and then backtracking. This is apparently no exception.
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How involved is Romeo with Wild West Exodus?
My understanding is that he's the owner and main driving force. But I'm just going on stuff I read on the Internet.
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Gamingdog wrote:point me to an example of unethical business practices perpetrated by Romeo I would be extremely interested to hear about it and please post before the end of the campaign
I think this sums up the objections that people have. Note that it's still "stuff you read on the internet" so derive your own conclusions: http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/03/07/meat-meta-bad-battlefoam-practices/
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Post by: Breotan
Basically, Romeo is a jerk. I've only delt with him as a customer so I will verify that order fulfillment does happen... slowly. I won't pre-order anything from him anymore after doing so last year because of the length of time it took to actually fulfill my order. It also takes a fair amount of time to get any custom foam orders completed, too.
Still, I do have everything I've ordered.
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Post by: Yodhrin
skarsol wrote:Saying he's not going to sell it to online discounters is just a push to get you to pledge now, cause there wont be discounts later. Supposedly. But not really.
Yep, I'm out based on that, pulled my pledge. I don't like cheap ploys.
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Post by: Breotan
 Yodhrin wrote:skarsol wrote:Saying he's not going to sell it to online discounters is just a push to get you to pledge now, cause there wont be discounts later. Supposedly. But not really.
Yep, I'm out based on that, pulled my pledge. I don't like cheap ploys.
Meh. I don't even care about stuff like that. For me it boils down to one thing... is the stuff being offerend in my kickstarter worth the money? If yes, then I'll back it and let the company decide their own method of distributing their product. If no, then they're not getting my money regardless of their plans, ploys, or psychotic breaks at conventions. ;P
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Post by: Bossk_Hogg
skarsol wrote:Saying he's not going to sell it to online discounters is just a push to get you to pledge now, cause there wont be discounts later. Supposedly. But not really.
Well, its actually something to worry about if you want a thriving game. Does WWX want to be a big game, with a wide distribution and playing base, or do they want to drive every sale through their own website and remain niche?
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Post by: Earth Dragon
With the war store around, it's all a moot point.
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Post by: skarsol
Exactly my point. Its just how he works. "Buy now! You won't get a discount like this again! Unless you buy from yhe biggest US discounter."
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Well, saying you won't get a 70% off discount again seems like a reasonable statement. You're looking to much into it. That's the same kind of stuff you can see coming from the Mantic KSs and others.
I agree that the whole protect the brick and mortar statement is a bit of a dream and a tool, like plenty of other companies have used, to get stores to stock up on their stuff. But you notice battlefoam only has only sales on holidays and stuff. You can almost always get it cheaper from someone else.
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Post by: Absolutionis
What do you mean? Will this game be offered via TheWarstore?
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Post by: Earth Dragon
They are a brick and mortar that just does phone sales at 20% discount for games not being distributed via Internet like the GW games. So vendors will find a way around it. Though the fact that they will send the stock to be shown at the store before it is advertised for sale on their website is interesting.
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Post by: carboncopy
Earth Dragon wrote:IRomeo actually owned up to his mistake, said he was sorry about the Heavy Weapons shortly after he said you couldn't switch them out and said the FAQ was right.
Creator Outlaw Miniatures, LLC about 2 hours ago
Hi Charlie - I can see how that is confusing. I read my post from earlier and you are right. I completely did a typo that caused some issues. The FAQ is correct, I just typed out the wrong info as I have been asked the same question so many times I read heavy weapon hired hands as hired hands...
Sure, but I don't buy it. Read his excuse and reread what he wrote earlier. It's hard for me to believe it was a simple misunderstanding of words when he was directly referring to the heavy weapons. It just feels too much like a dishonest tactic to get people to add on to their pledge.
I also don't buy the starter retraction excuse. It was stated they couldn't allow the trading of the plastic hired hands because they needed to know how many of each to order, and the Kickstarter pledge manager will delay that number. However plastic manufacturing is a long process, with a majority of the time in the setup and construction of the molds. They are going tool each mold of all of those plastic kits regardless. The squirting of the plastic is a relatively quick and scalable affair, coming much later in the process, so I don't see how numbers can't easily be adjusted. It was obvious that when there was a strong draw for the wave 2 plastic hired hands, and I feel it was another dishonest tactic to get people to up their pledges to receive the wave 2 items.
To be clear I don't think there is anything wrong with the current trading rules as they stand - it's ok to use wave 2 as incentives to up their pledge, but I don't like the saying one thing, and then retracting it, and then trying to cover it up with flimsy excuses all in the name of getting money.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
296k now. Just a bit more and a piece of lawmen are available as add-ons only (at least until the ultra unlikely chance the thing jumps to 400k)
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Post by: RiTides
Almost 297K, with 11 hours left... that will be easy!
I have tried to summon nerd rage about this campaign, but just can't . I know Romeo has flaws, but this thing looks pretty darn cool to me. *Shrug* I guess I know what I'm getting with Romeo and I'm just over it and care more about the product at this point.
Granted, awesome creators going out of their way for the backers (Mark at Dreamforge) does tend to pull more money out of me, but I just view Romeo as not really adding anything... but his personality doesn't take away from what ends up in my hands, either. It just doesn't add.
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Post by: HarlequinZero
My opinion is that as long as Outlaw delivers a good product and supports it I'll be happy. I don't really care if the owner is a caustic individual. Heck, if I really cared about caustic individuals I don't think I could ever play a tournament. I've met FAR more caustic individuals playing Warmahordes and 40K tourneys. They make Romeo look like a little angel. The irony being that I find the caustic types are usually the ones who complain long and loudly about others they perceive to be caustic. It's that old adage that the people we hate the most are those who remind us of our own faults. So, to sum up, I'm giving Outlaw the benefit of the doubt until they prove they aren't deserving of my trust.
Just my two cents.
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Post by: Madmick
HI guys,
Just wanted to apologise if I had not made it as clear as possible about the internet discount stores. Outlaw Minis will be distributing them in a fashion to protect the bricks and mortar stores as much as possible.
I was not trying to suggest that they would not be available online, as I am unaware of any business decisions that he makes. I was just commenting on what I heard from his podcasts that I have listened to,
Where he talks about not distributing them to DISCOUNT internet shops. I would have thought that where a shop has both, he would distribute, but I also do not KNOW this for certain and am only hazarding a guess.
Again, sorry if I confused anyone with my previous post.
On a lighter note, the Lawmen have been unlocked just now, so I guess there will be a lot of smiling faces about, hehe. I really like them but I think I may stick with Warrior Nation, Outlaws and Union and get decent sized posses.
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Post by: RiTides
300K hit, the Lawmen are in!
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Post by: Alpharius
Are you in now, RiTides?
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Post by: cincydooley
Madmick wrote:HI guys,
Just wanted to apologise if I had not made it as clear as possible about the internet discount stores. Outlaw Minis will be distributing them in a fashion to protect the bricks and mortar stores as much as possible.
I was not trying to suggest that they would not be available online, as I am unaware of any business decisions that he makes. I was just commenting on what I heard from his podcasts that I have listened to,
Where he talks about not distributing them to DISCOUNT internet shops. I would have thought that where a shop has both, he would distribute, but I also do not KNOW this for certain and am only hazarding a guess.
Again, sorry if I confused anyone with my previous post.
On a lighter note, the Lawmen have been unlocked just now, so I guess there will be a lot of smiling faces about, hehe. I really like them but I think I may stick with Warrior Nation, Outlaws and Union and get decent sized posses.
That you'll, of course, never play
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Post by: Empchild
Hey Ritides if you want in we can go in together. As for the discount being romeo and Neal don't get along i wouldn't count on it being at the warstore.
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Post by: frank6002
Excited well on the way to the Blackjacks
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Post by: Alfndrate
Empchild wrote:
Hey Ritides if you want in we can go in together. As for the discount being romeo and Neal don't get along i wouldn't count on it being at the warstore.
Bout to find out, just sent the warstore an email.
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Post by: Madmick
@Cincydooly,
Oh I will play my dear chap. Just can't yet due to medication. :(
We have 12 people in the UK planning on meeting in Sheffield for pre-release drinks and maybe a game or two. So everything is looking rosy here. Only 8hrs left before the end of the KS. I think happy times are going to be had.
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Post by: Alpharius
Empchild wrote:
Hey Ritides if you want in we can go in together. As for the discount being romeo and Neal don't get along i wouldn't count on it being at the warstore.
Emp, what level you going in for?
If RiTides isn't interested, I may be...
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Post by: RiTides
I probably am not- had to sell something to fund a pledge and didn't :-/ but I will likely be picking up the great elk and Geronimo when they release.
Makes more sense for you and Emp to split, anyway, since you're more "local" .
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Post by: carboncopy
Empchild wrote:
Hey Ritides if you want in we can go in together. As for the discount being romeo and Neal don't get along i wouldn't count on it being at the warstore.
Really, how many bridges has this guy burned?
I guess I wouldn't be too concerned about the game not appearing discounted online. I imagine this is a not too well-thought out plan, and something that has to be said to not make the brick and mortar stores not freak out right now. If WWX was a more established game there'd be a lot more pull to do that sort of thing, but I'm seeing whatever produces more sales will win in the end.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
309k now. 325k is definitely in the cards.
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Post by: cincydooley
Good pickup day for sure. I was a bit worried last night.
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Post by: Alfndrate
 Alfndrate wrote: Empchild wrote:
Hey Ritides if you want in we can go in together. As for the discount being romeo and Neal don't get along i wouldn't count on it being at the warstore.
Bout to find out, just sent the warstore an email.
According to Neal, if they can get it through distribution, then they will probably carry it.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Up to 970 backers. May break a 1000 players yet.
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Post by: Madmick
Just got the release pics of the Lawmen Hired Hands.
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Post by: Alpharius
Looks like you can NOT select the Lawmen as one of your starters - it is add on ONLY.
If that's the case... I don't think I'll be pledging.
I might give the game a look once it hits retail though...
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Post by: Madmick
@Alpha,
That is indeed the case, but they will increase in price to from $60 to $80 a starter box and no additional voucher also, which would reduce the entire of your next order.
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Post by: Alfndrate
Madmick wrote:@Alpha,
That is indeed the case, but they will increase in price to from $60 to $80 a starter box and no additional voucher also, which would reduce the entire of your next order.
I'm sure this has been answered, and I could probably figure this out on my own, but a starter has what 8 models? 1 Boss, 1 Underboss, 5 Hired Hands, and a Heavy Support Vehicle? For 80 dollars? O.o
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Post by: Absolutionis
Alfndrate wrote: Madmick wrote:@Alpha,
That is indeed the case, but they will increase in price to from $60 to $80 a starter box and no additional voucher also, which would reduce the entire of your next order.
I'm sure this has been answered, and I could probably figure this out on my own, but a starter has what 8 models? 1 Boss, 1 Underboss, 5 Hired Hands, and a Heavy Support Vehicle? For 80 dollars? O.o
To be fair, that's not unreasonable.
Compare with Malifaux plastics:
http://wyrd-games.net/shop/Rail-Crew-Box-Set-WYR30521.html
http://wyrd-games.net/shop/Rail-Golem.html
One Boss (Mei Feng)
One Underboss (Kang)
4 Hired Hands (Rail Workers + Emberling)
1 Heavy Support (Rail Golem)
All for $70.
With the Relic Hunters Boxed Set:
http://wyrd-games.net/shop/Relic-Hunters-Box-Set-WYR1056.html
They have an additional figure in there for +$5
Take into account that WWE's miniatures are noticeably larger at a silly 35mm or so, and that can justify a further +$5.
That being said, $80 is incredibly high for what is supposed to be a starter set. For that price, the 40k starter is a much better deal. They should have just dropped the heavy vehicle thing and priced it at $40.
Considering this is an unestablished game from anunestablished and untried miniatures company, they'll have a difficult time attracting people into the game at that price point especially if they exclude online retailers. Why would someone start Wild West Exodus when Malifaux and Warmachine are right around the corner, have infinitely more creative fluff, have an established player base, and are cheaper?
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Post by: Madmick
14 models as you get B/UB/SK/Hvy Wpn + 5 CC HH and 5x Rng HH
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Post by: Alfndrate
Madmick wrote:14 models as you get B/UB/ SK/Hvy Wpn + 5 CC HH and 5x Rng HH
That's still not too bad for the price, but like Absolutionis says, 80 dollars for stuff from an untested company doesn't put me in a nice light.
Also Absolutionis, you should know this well enough that those 70 dollars for the Mei Fang crew is pretty much all you might need for a long while . But that's another thing entirely.
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Post by: Madmick
@Absolutionis,
That is the price after KS, They are $60 for 14 troops atm + a 30% off voucher
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Post by: Alfndrate
Madmick wrote:@Absolutionis,
That is the price after KS, They are $60 for 14 troops atm + a 30% off voucher
And that's a perfectly valid way to compare them, considering the models he compared them too also outside of the kickstarter discount zone.
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Post by: Madmick
@Absolutionis
They look like a nice bunch of minis mate First time I have seen those! Hmmmmm /ponders Automatically Appended Next Post: Alpha
This may be of great value then, as you can trade in the Rotten for $40 of add ons
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Post by: Alpharius
That is tempting...
IF I can trade it in towards the Lawmen mini-starter.
Is that confirmed?
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Post by: Alfndrate
Alpharius wrote:That is tempting...
IF I can trade it in towards the Lawmen mini-starter.
Is that confirmed?
I thought that it was confirmed, no lawmen trade-ins.
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Post by: Breotan
I don't think this game has legs. Their insistence on resin for everything other than Hired Hands indicates they expect sluggish sales. At least sluggish enough that they can't cut steel for bosses, underbosses, heavies, etc. Okay, that "might" not be the worst indicator of fail but consider also that these models, at retail price, are easily on par with the pricing of GW models. In some cases Outlaw is charging a whole lot more than GW. For example, in the skirmish game Necromunda $55 gets you a Cawdor gang and a "booster" pack, or 13 models. You get 14 models for $80 from Outlaw. With few exceptions, you also get a better per-model deal buying a GW battleforce/battalion than you do buying a starter set for WWE.
The larger models seem to be better priced than GW offerings but they're mostly blocks of resin rather than light-weight plastic kits. I also don't know if they compare to a Skaven HPA or a 40k Dread in size so I can't speak to which would be the better value for your money.
So, outside the KS, I really don't see this selling well if Romeo achieves his goal of eliminating discounters. Wyrd already has Malifaux filling this part of the hobby market and I think Wyrd will be the one left standing in another two years or so.
I think the best option for people is to get the faction you want most via the KS and then get some fan-made rules for using them in your other favorite Sci-Fi game or "weird west" game like Malifaux.
Alfndrate wrote: Alpharius wrote:That is tempting...
IF I can trade it in towards the Lawmen mini-starter. Is that confirmed?
I thought that it was confirmed, no lawmen trade-ins.
I could have sworn I read that Lawmen were an add-on only item. No trading. I'll go through the posts and see what was last said.
Edit: Found it in the FAQ at the bottom.
Can the Lawmen Mini Starter be swapped out for other starters?
No, the Lawmen Mini Starter can not be swapped out with any other starter box. The Lawmen Mini Starter is a special add-on item only.
Normal MSRP is $105 - KSRP is $60
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Post by: RiTides
A bit early to declare this game DOA, Breotan, with how the campaign has done. There's really no way to say how it will do (skyrocket or flop) other than 1000 folks are very into it, with probably several times that as interested observers. Plenty of companies make resin models, and few make plastic- it's expensive and challenging to do for so many options.
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Post by: Alpharius
It is a bit of a grey issue - I'm not looking to swap out a starter for the Lawmen, I'm looking to use the "Rotten Module" and its declared trade in value of $40 towards getting the Lawmen mini-starter.
There's a difference - but I'd still like some clarity before committing!
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Post by: Breotan
RiTides wrote:A bit early to declare this game DOA, Breotan, with how the campaign has done. There's really no way to say how it will do (skyrocket or flop) other than 1000 folks are very into it, with probably several times that as interested observers. Plenty of companies make resin models, and few make plastic- it's expensive and challenging to do for so many options.
I'm not declaring it DOA based on how the KS was run. I'm declaring it "in the ambulance, hooked up to the defibrillator" because of the chosen price points and limited market (niche) that already has heavy competition from day one.
Alpharius wrote:It is a bit of a grey issue - I'm not looking to swap out a starter for the Lawmen, I'm looking to use the "Rotten Module" and its declared trade in value of $40 towards getting the Lawmen mini-starter.
There's a difference - but I'd still like some clarity before committing!
The Lawmen are an add-on so my understanding is that you can apply the $40 to their purchase just as you can for any other add-on.
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Post by: cincydooley
I'm in, but a world wide player base of around 1000 isn't huge. It'll take some doing :-)
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Post by: Hulksmash
The 3-1 for the Wave 1 Light Support to get Wave 2 Light Support is pretty BS....3 to 2 would have been reasonable since they are pretty close on the price points that way but 3 to 1 just pushed back out again. This is pretty solid fight just because of the models I'd like to order to paint.
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Post by: Madmick
There are 9x plastic kits being produced. 2x for each faction and 1x for the Lawmen, due to partial release.
Each plastic mould will cost $20,000 therefore = $180 just in tooling costs alone.
Then we expect staffing cost, fuel, other assets, rent and rates, tax, KS taking their share of the pledged amount, delivery costs for USA deliveries etc......
I think that this is taken very seriously indeed. As for the next 6 months they will have whatever there is left from their funding to allocate to their overheads and liabilities.
I would personally hate to look at the trial balance on this little lot if it was my business venture.
You need to be mindful not to allow beliefs to shape events and to allow events to shape beliefs.
So I think there will be interesting times ahead, and I am sure I will be buying more in years to come.
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Post by: Alfndrate
Madmick wrote:You need to be mindful not to allow beliefs to shape events and to allow events to shape beliefs.
So I think there will be interesting times ahead, and I am sure I will be buying more in years to come.
Says the man that has been promoting this project on his personal beliefs of the project
Still don't like the idea that the Lawmen were "announced" but you still can't trade in to get them...
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Post by: Breotan
Madmick wrote:You need to be mindful not to allow beliefs to shape events and to allow events to shape beliefs.
Who are you? The Sphinx?
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Post by: Alpharius
Same here Alf - it might just keep me out of pledging.
I would've gone in at the $115 level for certain.
Now, not sure... Automatically Appended Next Post:  Breotan wrote: Madmick wrote:You need to be mindful not to allow beliefs to shape events and to allow events to shape beliefs.
Who are you? The Sphinx?
Nice reference there!
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Post by: frank6002
An update of the character cards has been posted,looking better
Outlaw have said that this is 95% done so nothing much more will be changing.
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Post by: Breotan
Um... not quite.
MYSTERY MEN
The Sphinx: To learn my teachings, I must first teach you how to learn.
The Sphinx: He who questions training only trains himself at asking questions.
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Post by: kronk
What an awesome show.
Can't wait to see terrain for this game, if there is any.
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Post by: Alpharius
I like both - so I'm OK with being wrong/right!
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Post by: Alfndrate
 frank6002 wrote:An update of the character cards has been posted,looking better Outlaw have said that this is 95% done so nothing much more will be changing.
Edit: Ah, attached... Still a bit too cluttered, but not by much. Also... can't they please center the life points? Edit: Madmick, what Dakka Army Track are you on? I can't seem to find it in the listings from the ones down in Nuts and Bolts. I was curious as to what I'd have if I were on your army track.
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Post by: Breotan
Terrain is already part of the kickstarter. In fact, that's what I'm in for. They have commissioned stuff from Micro Art Studios, both MDF buildings and resin(?) stuff like barricades. I think the resin track segments are being done by Outlaw but I might be mistaken. They look like S-gauge so you may even be able to just grab actual track off eBay for cheap. I've no way to tell if this will work or not so you'll want to wait and see if someone else can confirm.
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Post by: Alpharius
Last question - anyone know if they'll be a post-KS Pledge Manager way to add funds on to your pledge?
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Post by: timd
Alpharius wrote:It is a bit of a grey issue - I'm not looking to swap out a starter for the Lawmen, I'm looking to use the "Rotten Module" and its declared trade in value of $40 towards getting the Lawmen mini-starter.
There's a difference - but I'd still like some clarity before committing!
From the FAQ:
"The Rotten Level Pledge can be traded for $40 worth of add-on credit to be spent on add-ons."
Lawmen are add ons...
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Post by: cincydooley
Those tooling costs are BS. They've already, at the very least, got the Enlightened HHs tooled and cast.
And those cards...man, they have so much in there. Why the hell did they change th model portrait shape? That big square box with a circular life track looks terrible. PICK. A. SHAPE.
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Post by: frank6002
I think it has been said that there will be a time period after the end of the KS to add extra funds. Just looking to see if I can find the post.
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Post by: Breotan
Alpharius wrote:Last question - anyone know if they'll be a post- KS Pledge Manager way to add funds on to your pledge?
I expect so. Otherwise how will they know which add-ons you want? Also, I don't see Romeo as being the type to refuse more money.
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Post by: Bolognesus
Dunno, could be just a survey
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Post by: Alpharius
OK, that wasn't my last question - this one is!
How do the Merc Crew work?
Separate faction?
Add on to any other faction?
Not sure how many I'd want to pick up now, as opposed to later...
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Post by: Empchild
I think in the long run this game will succeed as look at Infinity (10 years to get to this point), or Malifaux (5 or 6 years) as it takes a while to build up the overall. Now I don't think this will be overly huge as if it was then the kickstarter would be like the ones around $1million in sales, but I think it's a great start. Down the road I will buy into it but atm I just can't justify the cost.
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Post by: frank6002
Alpharius wrote:
OK, that wasn't my last question - this one is!
How do the Merc Crew work?
The Merc crew work as sidekicks so they can be fielded with any faction, there may be a Boss coming further down the line.
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Post by: Madmick
Resin barricade terrain is Outlaw Miniatures.
HDF stuff + Bike pad + Power generator is MAS's
Train is O gauge apparently, but it is a purpose built track to accommodate the train.
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Anyone have a link to the trade-in rules/values?
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Post by: Alpharius
That did help - thanks!
I would have like to have used Rulebook trade-in credit towards models, but apparently that's not allowed.
That will probably keep me at 'Wicked' instead of 'Fiendish'...
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Rip roaring now 1000 and 323k. At 325k, corrupt gets the wave 2 LSVs
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Post by: timd
frank6002 wrote:http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wildwestexodus/wild-west-exodus-sci-fi-western-miniatures-game#HowDoITradItemIDoNotWantAndHowDoesTradWorkInGene
This is a link to the FAQ on trade ins Hope it helps, there was a thread on the forum but I can't find it.
The trade in FAQ:
Trading your rewards is very easy with Wild West Exodus. The first thing to remember is that all trading will happen during the survey that is emailed out at the end of the campaign. Kickstarter does not allow for modifications to the pledge levels once they are posted. As the project creators we can update graphics with the latest unlocked rewards but we can not change the text listed under the pledge level wording on the right side of the screen. This is to prevent project creators from advertising a reward as being something and then lowering the rewards in the level at the end of the campaign. It is basically a safety system to guarantee that the backers get what they pledge for.
In our kickstarter our graphic is always correct so if the pledge level graphic says you are getting 4 of something but the text on the right says 3, please know you will get 4. The graphic is always right.
As for trades the policy is simple. We will allow like model trades for like model trades. We will also allow like model rewards such as books to be traded for like model printed media. Below you will find a list of examples on what can be traded and for what.
Extra box sets of Hired Hands can be traded for box sets of Hired Hands Wave 1 or Wave 2.
Starter boxes are not considered simply hired hands because they will be packaged differently. All starters come with Wave 1 Hired Hands and those cannot be traded for Wave 2. This would break the packaging and cause major slowing in the shipping of the models.
Whole starters sets can be traded for whole starter sets but all starters come with Wave 1 Hired Hands
Heavy Weapon Hired Hands can be traded for other Heavy Weapon Hired Hands. These are resin models and will be produced in the US. A starter that features a heavy weapon hired hand can be swapped just for the wave 2 version of that hired hand in the same faction.
Light Support Choices Wave 1 can be traded for Light Support Choices Wave 1
Light Support Choices Wave 2 can be traded for Light Support Choices Wave 2
If you would like to trade Light Support Choices Wave 1 for Wave 2 it would require you to trade in 3 of the Wave 1 models for 1 of the Wave 2 models.
Heavy Support Choices can be traded for Heavy Support Choices
Micro Art Terrain Sets and bases can be traded for Micro Art Terrain Sets, or for Bags, or for Models of equal value.
Rule Books can be traded for Art Books, Mini Rule Books, or printed art prints, aka posters.
The Rotten Level Pledge can be traded for $40 worth of add-on credit to be spent on add-ons. This credit cannot be used against your pledge total to give you an additional discount. This is not allowed by Kickstarter. You also cannot pledge for Rotten and get the trade in value. The Trade In Value of $40 is only allowed if you have Rotten as part of one of your pledge levels. This credit must be spent on Model Add-Ons Only. The full amount must be traded in for the credit and cannot be broken up into smaller credits.
Boss Models can be traded for Boss Models (This means wave 1 bosses for weave 2 bosses)
Underboss Models can be traded for Underboss Models (This means wave 1 underbosses for wave 2 underbosses)
Sidekick Models can be traded fro Sidekick Models (This means wave 1 sidekicks can be traded for wave 2 sidekicks)
(Mercs are now considered sidekicks so they fall under the sidekick trading rules.)
Ladies Of The West can be traded for Dark Council Models or Spirit Totems or Civilians. The same can be reversed.
If the models being traded require an additional cost to be added the pledge must be increased to cover this. Example - Backer A wants to trade in the Starter Box Gen Grant standard pose model for Abe Lincoln. Backer A can do this at no extra charge and would request this during the survey at the end of the kickstarter.
The WWX terrain also known as Barricades set 1 and Barricades set 2 can be swapped for only Barricades sets. These are not made by Micro Art Studios so they cannot be swapped for buildings or or bases.
Example - Backer B wants to trade out Alt Sculpt Jesse James Boss for Eiffel and Spider Construct. Backer B would need to add an additional $11 to cover the difference in price between the Alt Sculpt Jesse James and the Eiffel model. This would also mean that backer B would not get the Alt Sculpt of Jesse James because he used that to trade towards Eiffel.
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The shameless pledges keep increasing and those EB fiendish packages keep opening up. Don't miss out!! 2 at the moment.
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Post by: Madmick
Just to let you guys know we have now got to $331,000+ with 40 mins to go
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Post by: streetsamurai
Pledeged for the rotten module. Wasn't sure wich faction I wanted to take, so I hope the fluff in the comich help me take a decision
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Post by: Bossk_Hogg
Breotan wrote:
I think the best option for people is to get the faction you want most via the KS and then get some fan-made rules for using them in your other favorite Sci-Fi game or "weird west" game like Malifaux.
That's what I did. I snagged an EB Fiendish, so its 76 models, +$40 in credit for $205. Which is pretty good for a niche setting that isnt MOAR ORCS/ELVES/SPACE MARINES. If the game is good or catches on, thats just gravy. These guys would work well in Deadlands, Hell on Earth, Malifaux RPG's.
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Post by: Madmick
Thanks to all the guys on DakkaDakka for giving this new community a chance to grow within YOUR community.
I know that this may have been tough for many on here initially and some may still have problems with it. But I am glad
that we are at least speaking and perhaps in the future we may throw dice on the floor together.
Although we started on rocky terms, I think we have learnt a lot from each other, at least I do believe I have.
Hopefully we can enjoy our time on DakkaDakka in a more relaxed atmosphere now that the Kick Starter has ended
and I am not so stressed with organising things and responding to multiple conversations at once and trying to sort out trade questions.
Sometimes the easiest of questions become hard if you answer the same question for long enough. hehe
I would most of all like to thank Alfndrate, as if it wasn't for you, all the negative thoughts would have gone unanswered and remained as such
throughout the whole Kickstarter. If it wasn't for your constant dialogue and willingness to challenge the different viewpoints, I am sure a lot of the positive aspects of the
last 3 weeks would have gone unnoticed. So thanks for sticking with us.
Mick
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Post by: Alfndrate
Madmick wrote:I would most of all like to thank Alfndrate, as if it wasn't for you, all the negative thoughts would have gone unanswered and remained as such
throughout the whole Kickstarter. If it wasn't for your constant dialogue and willingness to challenge the different viewpoints, I am sure a lot of the positive aspects of the
last 3 weeks would have gone unnoticed. So thanks for sticking with us.
Mick
You make me sick of myself... *shifty eyes*
Get more dynamic sculpts you bums
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Post by: yakface
Madmick wrote:Thanks to all the guys on DakkaDakka for giving this new community a chance to grow within YOUR community.
I know that this may have been tough for many on here initially and some may still have problems with it. But I am glad
that we are at least speaking and perhaps in the future we may throw dice on the floor together.
Although we started on rocky terms, I think we have learnt a lot from each other, at least I do believe I have.
Hopefully we can enjoy our time on DakkaDakka in a more relaxed atmosphere now that the Kick Starter has ended
and I am not so stressed with organising things and responding to multiple conversations at once and trying to sort out trade questions.
Sometimes the easiest of questions become hard if you answer the same question for long enough. hehe
I would most of all like to thank Alfndrate, as if it wasn't for you, all the negative thoughts would have gone unanswered and remained as such
throughout the whole Kickstarter. If it wasn't for your constant dialogue and willingness to challenge the different viewpoints, I am sure a lot of the positive aspects of the
last 3 weeks would have gone unnoticed. So thanks for sticking with us.
Mick
Hey Mick,
You should definitely stick around. I know WWX has its own dedicated forums, but it never hurts to keep spreading the word about the game you love on bigger sites like Dakka. So especially when you get some models painted up you should put some pics of them in our gallery, show them off in the painting and modeling forums, etc.
And as always, if the WWX conversation in our miscellaneous game forum gets to a point where it is becomes feasible, we could certainly open a dedicated WWX forum here on Dakka as well.
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Post by: timd
What happened to the graphics that had the prices for the add ons? A bunch are missing: Mercs, bosses, underbosses, sidekicks, heavy weapons, Hired Hands boxes, heavy support and more are all missing.
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Post by: Madmick
They can be found at the following link: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/wildwestexodus/wild-west-exodus-sci-fi-western-miniatures-game
But for now I am off to bed :O
@Yakface,
Thanks for the kind words. We will speak again.
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Post by: timd
Wierd. Scrolled all the way down the page a couple of times and the graphics were not there. Now they are there...
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Post by: RiTides
So many early bird pledges ended up being available! 16 folks at Corrupt spending $999 had a chance to save $44 if they'd just checked the page anytime late this afternoon, and 15 folks at Repulsive had a chance to save $10 (a whopping 11 spots open on that early bird).
The second one doesn't matter quite so much at only $10, but for $44 I'd have checked that page  . I'm guessing folks just couldn't due to it ending while they were still at work or the like.
Good to see a campaign like this hit all the goals they had in sight at the end (I don't think there was anything listed after 325K until almost 400K) and finish strong. It made $65,500 and got 168 new backers in the last 2 days (and I'm even not sure how complete the final day was on kicktraq). You wouldn't know that from some of the posts on here but I consider this campaign to be pretty wildly successful for a game no one had ever even heard or thought of more than a few months before it started! As always, if it's got good rules and sculpts, people will flock to it. Will be interesting to see how it fares in the medium run
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Post by: timd
RiTides wrote:So many early bird pledges ended up being available! 16 folks at Corrupt spending $999 had a chance to save $44 if they'd just checked the page anytime late this afternoon, and 15 folks at Repulsive had a chance to save $10 (a whopping 11 spots open on that early bird).
Pledge money bounced around a lot the last 20 minutes; over $332,000 then under $332,000 and then back up about 10 times.
I went from Wicked to EB Wicked to EB Fiendish to Shameless in the last two days and I'm sure there are others who did similar things which opened up a lot of the EB pledges at the end.
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Also folks were dropping pledges to lowers one to get x2 or x3 of some other level. Whatever they were trying to optimize I guess. Seems like a lot of wasted models unless you planned on selling some considering you can only use one of most boss, underboss, or sidekick.
They had their plans though so it's their business. Like was said, too bad others werent able to save a few bucks by dropping to the early bird pledges.
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Earth Dragon wrote:Also folks were dropping pledges to lowers one to get x2 or x3 of some other level.
Sure that's doable? I thought you could pledge for 1x wicked or 1x fiendish or whatever, then add some addons. Didn't think you could get 3x fiendish.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Yonan wrote:Earth Dragon wrote:Also folks were dropping pledges to lowers one to get x2 or x3 of some other level.
Sure that's doable? I thought you could pledge for 1x wicked or 1x fiendish or whatever, then add some addons. Didn't think you could get 3x fiendish.
I never advocated it, but lots were sure you could. What's the difference between 3 guys getting 1x a pledge level an 1 guy getting 3x a pledge level(besides increased traffic placing it on "popular this week" more often and the appearance that the game was more popular)? As long as the pledge level wasn't limited, I'm sure it wasn't a big deal. I think the only thing you wouldn't get was the mystery backer model with multiple packages.
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Post by: RiTides
I don't think there's anything wrong with doing that, as long as it's not taken to an extreme. Lots of times it just makes more sense, depending on what someone wants, to do 2x the middle level instead of the highest level, etc.
It's pretty common "Kickstarter practice" now, but usually projects clarify (in the FAQ or the like) that that is allowed or not so that people know for sure.
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Post by: timd
Two pledges seems to have been possible using two KS accounts. At one point I had EB Wicked and EB Fiendish, one on each KS account. Was thinking about getting two Wicked because of the $40 Rotten rebate x 2.
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Post by: MajorTom11
Congrats to Romeo, Chiller, Scaedle and Allessio on a successful campaign!
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Post by: vegeta365
First update is out. tooling is now underway and they are keeping very busy by the sounds of it!
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Can't wait to get that survey and actually hash this stuff out
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Post by: Absolutionis
So now that the Kickstarter is over, what happened to all the new people that made Dakka accounts just to advertise for this game? Have they lost their enthusiasm or did they have no intention of joining the community after all?
I notice there has been a 100% drop in WWE-advertisement over on the two Infinity forums as well.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
As I understand that was just a smug rhetorical comment, I'll still answer:
The Wild West Exodus KS was just the thing that pushed me to sign up. I'd been surfin the sight for a while, and have been posting several other places.
No one has gotten their survey's yet, so nothing to report yet other then a "you'll get it soon" annoucement. Which if you backed you wouldn't need to come here to get that info. You'd already have it. If they have a late to the party option to pledge, I'll post the link
As for the reason I came here:
http://wild-west-exodus.mybigcommerce.com/season-1-subscription/
Here is a link to get just the comic book. That will be shipped right away. Just a marginal investment if you are interested in the game and want to see what some of the hub bub is all about
And my apologies to you Absolutionis if you are not of the same ilk as the folks who blindsided me after me first post. This was the rudest community I had ever joined, and I don't like the fact I've had to play hardball just to talk about and support a game I thought was neat.
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Post by: Madmick
Just to let you know that I will be back off my holiday tomorrow night. So I would love to chat when I get in. ;D
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Post by: Alfndrate
Earth Dragon wrote:And my apologies to you Absolutionis if you are not of the same ilk as the folks who blindsided me after me first post. This was the rudest community I had ever joined, and I don't like the fact I've had to play hardball just to talk about and support a game I thought was neat.
This is not to discredit the fact that you like the game, it's more of the fact that no one likes when a company has plants to try and make it seem like the game is extremely awesome, or it's such a good buy, etc... Most people (especially here on Dakka) would rather that companies be upfront when they're trying to sell us on stuff. So if there is a sudden surge of people coming into 1 specific thread, or making a thread about a specific game and then never being heard from again, it quickly becomes apparent that this was just a publicity stunt to try and sell! sell! sell! With that in mind, while you have posted elsewhere on Dakka, some of the other people that have joined Dakka around the same time as you and only posted in this thread, which gives the company some bad rep as it shows slightly shady dealings. Which is why Absolutionis posted what he did, the way he did.
While you might think Dakka is one of the rudest communities you've ever experienced, we're a massive site with a huge following of people that are defensive about people coming in and lying to our faces. Hope this clears some things up.
As to the comic subscription, I still think they should give a way a sample couple of pages to help lure people in... But that's just me I know they've got 2 pages up, but they just didn't pull me in, and in fact I felt like the comic was simply made as a way to advertise the game, and not a standalone product that could thrive on it's own.
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Post by: cincydooley
I definitely won't be subscribing, especially when they want over $3.50 an issue. Seems a bit high.....
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Post by: Alfndrate
cincydooley wrote:I definitely won't be subscribing, especially when they want over $3.50 an issue. Seems a bit high.....
>_> It's actually cheaper than your big name comics, but then again they're a "proven" brand. 3.50 is a bit steep for something that's untested though.
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Post by: cincydooley
Alfndrate wrote: cincydooley wrote:I definitely won't be subscribing, especially when they want over $3.50 an issue. Seems a bit high.....
>_> It's actually cheaper than your big name comics, but then again they're a "proven" brand. 3.50 is a bit steep for something that's untested though.
Is 2.99 no longer the status quo? I seem to recall DC running a campaign called "draw the line at 2.99".
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Post by: Alfndrate
Just looking at the stack of comics I have close to me, they're all 3.99.
The list:
Automatically Appended Next Post: When DC revealed their new 52, I believe 2.99 was still the regular as Detective Comics #1 was 2.99, but the smattering of DC and Marvel comics I have all say 3.99.
Note: The Marvel comics come with a "free" digital copy that has an expiration date (like 3 days after release). But that specific topic belongs in the OT comic thread.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Alfndrate said to myself: defensive about people coming in and lying to our faces
I have no idea why you insist on publicy calling me a liar. You really need to knock it off. You are the guy I'm talking about. And now I feel bad I made it seemed like it went any further then you and apologize to the rest of Dakkadakka. That is outlandish and ridiculous to say I've lied about anything, as I am just a fan and have nothing to gain financially from Outlaw.
Get rid of your twisted assumptions and why don't you send me some PMs if you got a personal beef with stuff I post
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Dude I didn't call you a liar, you're the exception of the posters that Absolutionis and I are talking about. You're actively trying to particpate in Dakka besides that thread, the posters that I'm referring to are the ones that have come in, said how great the game is, and disappeared. Or they came in and made a thread in Misc Miniatures forum about the game, and that was it. Those are the people that Dakka doesn't like.
In fact this is what I said:
! With that in mind, while you have posted elsewhere on Dakka, some of the other people that have joined Dakka around the same time as you and only posted in this thread, which gives the company some bad rep as it shows slightly shady dealings. Which is why Absolutionis posted what he did, the way he did
"While you have posted elsewhere on Dakka, some of the other people that have joined Dakka around the same time as you and only posted in this thread."
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Whilst I can understand some frustration, I wonder how many got driven off simply because of the opposition and might have stayed around otherwise. I doubt any of them were plants and were just fans looking to spread the word about a new game.
I'm a fighter and not scared of the Internet, so of course I wasn't going any where.
You can all rest assured Al and Ed have settled their business via PM
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Post by: cincydooley
I think Mick will probably stick around for a bit, but will completely disappear eventually into the WWX forums or into whatever new hotness he buys 300% into.
There were a lot of others that did simply make one post, though. Sadly.
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Post by: Earth Dragon
E-mails are incoming!!
Check your inbox if you pledged
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Post by: Alpharius
It was a bit anticlimactic... more of a "We'll send you a link/spreadsheet for what you REALLY want to do... later!" thing.
Still, something is better than nothing!
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Post by: Earth Dragon
No kiddin' huh. My phone died so I won't know if I got the spreadsheet or not until I get off in a couple of hours.
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Post by: Alpharius
No worries then!
If you've filled it out, you'll next receive the following:
Project Update #93: The Survey Has Just Been Sent Out
Posted by Outlaw Miniatures, LLC Like
Hello Outlaw Backers,
Today on March 25th we sent everyone that is a backer our survey form via Kickstarter. In that survey you will find very basic information.
This information will included your name, address, phone numbers, and email addresses. This information is extremely important since it will be the only way for us to communicate with you directly.
Please fill out every line of information and send it back asap. Once we have the survey back we will send out our Wild West Exodus Spread Sheet.
This Spread Sheet will be when you get the chance to select and trade out items. The survey is only designed to get your contact information so please do not email asking why the add-on items are not listed. That is what the WWX Spread Sheet is for.
On Tuesday March 26th the WWX Spread Sheet will be sent out to everyone that is a backer. At that time you can swap items and also add additional minis to your order. Remember that April 1st is the last day that we will except add-ons at the discounted Kickstarter prices of 60% and 70% off.
Once April 1st arrives all models will go to 30% off msrp for the next 60 days. After that models will only be available at normal MSRP.
If you have any questions please email them to info@outlawminiatures.com
Please do not use the comments section or the messaging system on kickstarter as we do not check that daily any longer. You can also ask general questions on our official forum www.wildwestexodusforum.com.
Remember that you can also call us direct with general questions at 480-389-4857
We look forward to getting everyone's information and delivering a great product.
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Post by: Madmick
Hi guys, /wave
I R back from my long weekend away at the coast (Sandsea near Whitby, North Yorkshire, England)
And I have to say it was really relaxing after not having a holiday in over 12 years!!
It allowed me time to think about what I want to get and maybe a few design ideas for a board.
As most people I have seen are going for a very traditional wild west theme with a slight Sci-Fi appearance.
I was thinking of going more Sci-Fi with a slight Wild West twist. Building That I was thinking of would include:
1, Drive in cinema,
2, Multi-storey car park above shopping area in order to create a bit of hight,
3, Motor Vehicle showroom, so to make use of the spare LSV's I will be getting,
4, Various shops,
5, Block of flats + houses,
6, Some sort of market square,
7, Fort,
8, Refuelling station,
9, Park,
10, Various street furniture, i.e. street lights, benches, railings...
11, Police station / Jail,
12, Train station (thinking of an elevated train system that runs above the city)
The Wild West twist would include making these items as if they only had the materials of that time.
so a block of flats would be a few storeys high and made from wooden slats and maybe an external lift system.
My board will be a 6x4 and I have 16x 2ft x 2ft gaming tiles made from MDF.
I shall be making them look sandy in appearance so that the terrain will be placed on top.
Not sure if I will be making a road system build into the sand yet, we will see.
My forces will consist of Outlaws, Warrior Nation and The Union (1x Repulsive level on each, so all units would be sourced for each faction).
So I expect to have to create a slightly different theme for the Warriors so some sort of semi-permanent structured teepees / shacks with perhaps some sort of warrior testing ground like a gladiatorial arena.
So what do you guys think, I would be very happy to hear your opinions about how mentally derailed I am for thinking
of going down this route. I just want to produce something a little different from the norm.
Mick Automatically Appended Next Post: Hi guys,
Just a quick update that the WWX Spreadsheet will be going out within the next couple of hours.
This will be used to list all items that you require from the Kick Starter. The KS price will remain until 1st April 2013
and then go to 30% off for a 2 month period instead of a 30% discount voucher that could only be utilised once!
Cheers all
Mick
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Post by: Earth Dragon
The spreadsheets are out.
This is legit this time
Just check your e-mail.
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Post by: cincydooley
Haven't gotten mine yet. Getting antsy. :-)
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Post by: Alpharius
Same here - all I've gotten so far is the email saying to check my email soon...
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Got my spreadsheet!
Now... I just need to find a place that will tell me what model is what so I can add in the right ones!
Anyone know where to find pictures of all the models, clearly identified?
Especially the Mercenaries?
Thanks!
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Post by: frank6002
You can try the Kickstarter page for WWX, it's a bit of a chore scrolling up and down but they are all there.
Still waiting for my spreadsheet :(
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Post by: Earth Dragon
A lot of the high level spreadsheets are a little jacked. I'm not hearing as many issues from the low level guys. Some of it is misunderstandings of how trades work (Like a ladies of the west set is a set, not mix and match four ladies) but other stuff is just a bit screwy and not in line with FAQ. Hopefully it will get fixed before the weekend.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Okay....yeah. They are sending out a better spreadsheet tomorrow/later today (still the 26th where I'm at)
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Post by: Earth Dragon
Hey if someone has the wicked spreadsheet, can you send me a personal message. Trying to Give Outlaw a break and just get it from one of the other backers.
Thanks!!
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Post by: Madmick
Hi guys,
Sorry been away for a bit. Been spending a bit of time with the girlfriend, I have my priorities sorted now though and been doing a spot of building for my WWX table.
I thought I would try and lean more towards Sci-Fi more than Wild West, but I still want that Wild West look so will be making my terrain appear to be made from materials
sourced in the Wild West era (except the computer consoles etc, which will be used in the lift operation panels instead of stairs).
I am just building my first piece and have got a little further than the picture indicates.
I am just building the framework to the lift, but have to wait for glue to dry to get all the layers of the stage correct.
Anyway, How are you guys getting on? Are you doing anything for your boards? or are you busy doing something else atm?
Mick
EDIT: rather than spam this thread with my photos, you can view them here instead.
http://ironcladstudio.co.uk/Forum/index.php?topic=48.0
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Post by: Outlaw Miniatures
Hello WWX Fans.
Today is April first and as promised we have the BETA rules for Wild West Exodus ready for download.
Everyone that backed our project can now play test these awesome rules.
A few extra notes to point out.
1. These are not the final rules. These are about 95% done and will still see some revisions.
2. Some models are not yet present on the PDF. This does not mean that they will not be part of the main rule book. It just means that they are still being play tested and will be ready in a few weeks with stats and profiles.
3. The 10 missions in the back of the book are also being play test and could see some revisions and additions. These are going to be added to any of the missions from the comic series.
4. Mercs and their profiles will be added later this month and sent out as a second email with the other profile cards.
If you have any questions or suggestions please post them on the official WWX Forum under the Beta Rules section.
You can also email us at rules@outlawminiatures.com to send the info direct. If you have other questions please send them to info@outlawminiatures.com
We are available chat via phone at 480-389-4857 M-F from 8am to 5pm Pacific time.
Follow this link to download the Beta Rules
http://www.wildwestexodus.com/WWX_BETA_RULES.pdf
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Post by: xodis
Work internet filter won't let me get to the WWX website. Any alternative sites for the beta rules? Sadly (or happily depending on view) I have plenty of time here at work to give them a good read through.
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Post by: Alpharius
So... I sent in my EXCEL spreadsheet (!) and added a few things, but never heard back from them, and I wasn't sent a PayPal invoice either.
Anyone else experience something similar?
Or maybe different?
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Post by: xodis
Did you get the automatic reply from them?
This is normal, they did mention that it will take some time before they get the paypal/credit card charges placed and are processing them in the order they were submitted. Outlaw also mentioned that you will still get the KS prices regardless of the date you submitted or the date they process you if you were a KS pledger.
This info can be found in the KS comments section.
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Post by: Alpharius
That answers that then - thanks!
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Post by: Breotan
I sent in my spreadsheet. Haven't heard anything. Didn't change my pledge, though. Since I'm only ordering the Micro Art buildings, I wonder how long it will take to get them?
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Post by: xodis
Depends on when you sent it in. Outlaw announced yesterday they already received 750+ spreadsheets, but they are working on them in the order received. You won't receive anything except the auto reply as of now confirming they received your email. No worries, they said if they don't get to anyone in a couple months then they are still available for the KS discounted prices...not that it would matter with your order anyways.
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Post by: Alpharius
Update time!
The First Few Models Are In Production And Looking Good
Update #99 · Apr 8, 2013 · 6 comments
Here are the first of several models coming out this week from our production guys. We are running at full speed and September could not get here any sooner.
Check out the crisp detail and cool color. These resin models will be heading out to everyone in the very near future.
The plastic injection molded parts are also at full production in China and will be heading over the pond in just a few short months.
In all everything is on schedule and going as planned.
Those miniatures DO look nice, but I don't think anyone was too worried about the resin figs.
It is all about how the 3D renders translate to plastics...
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Post by: xodis
Agreed, I would have also liked a picture of these models before assembly as well. I paint my models in pieces, so it would be good to know what I am getting into. Really like the bases, good cross between a plinth and a "battle" base. Hope all of the bases that came in the KS are inserts or are molded like this.
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Post by: xodis
Beta 2.0 is out. Very good improvements and clarifications have been made. The (not)Firefly Mercs are also included in this iteration, looking good from a first reading. Link is on the KS page.
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Post by: Madmick
Anyone else seen the new Lawmen Hired Hands?
So glad I forgot to mute my phone tonight. Hehe
Mick
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Really like the pistol guys in particular
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It isn't that hard to share, now is it guys?!?
Lawmen Hired Hands Are Ready To Go
Update #101 · Apr 25, 2013 · 6 comments
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to let you know that the official Lawmen Hired Hands are done and on their way to China for plastic production. Take a look at all of these cool poses and look for them to ship out in September with all the other great kits.
Stay tuned on our website or facebook to find out the latest.
www.wildwestexodus.com
www.wildwestexodusforum.com
Facebook "Wild West Exodus"
Also check out our official store on the WWX page for any additional items you may have forgot on your survey.
Very nice, and I'm glad I selected the Lawmen faction too, but as someone already noted in the comments section, hopefully the 'sitting' Lawman is an 'extra' on the sprue, as I certainly won't ever need more than one of him!
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Post by: Madmick
I like the weapons, as they seem pretty chunky, especially the shotguns, but would hate to be hit by one of those pistols.
They look like they can shoot cannon balls! hehe.
Mick
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Alpharius wrote:It isn't that hard to share, now is it guys?!?
Very nice, and I'm glad I selected the Lawmen faction too, but as someone already noted in the comments section, hopefully the 'sitting' Lawman is an 'extra' on the sprue, as I certainly won't ever need more than one of him!
Well you could use him as a prone model instead of using tokens etc? Or something along those lines.
I am sure you could swap arms, heads weapons around so they look different also.
Outlaw did state that there would be flexibility in the sculpts and I am not talking the flexibility that you see in Finecast!! hehe
Mick
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Post by: Alpharius
Large and/or orange text is OK for occasional use (especially by certain MOdertors!) but as an everyday, all the time thing?
I hope you're not intending on making that a habit!
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Alpharius wrote:Large and/or orange text is OK for occasional use (especially by certain MOdertors!) but as an everyday, all the time thing?
I hope you're not intending on making that a habit!
I believe he is... every post I've seen from him lately has been in that orange text, also it violates rule 1.
I will say this, I got my hands on a Lady of the West model, and I will say the following:
The good:
1) The sculpt is in resin, and it is very good and generic enough to be used in any western setting game (not a lot of sci-fi junk on it
2) It looks easy to put together
The bad:
1) The base is fething stupid. Just saying that right now, 25mm beveled and 30mm round lip would have been fine, but it has like a faux-plinth style base, thankfully I have spare bases, so it's not a huge issue in the long run, though the ability to cross these models over in to other games just went down if everything has this stupid base...
2) The pieces of the model are connected to the tab in weird places, like on her hat. It's right at where you connect it to her head, so I have a bump, where I need at least a flat surface
3) the resin on the tab is enough to make at least 1 more model, which seems like a colossal waste.
4) Also got a demo of the game, and I can honestly say, that the game just ain't for me.
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Post by: Alpharius
Alfndrate wrote:
4) Also got a demo of the game, and I can honestly say, that the game just ain't for me.
That would be the biggest bummer for me!
Can you explain some of the issues?
And, we're still in playtest mode, right?
Time to make changes still exists?
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Post by: Madmick
We are still in the Beta V2.0.
A few people are play testing it to death atm, as some of the backers are game writers, but I am not sure what company name they act under.
A lot has been changed and added and comments on the forum are sounding a lot more upbeat then the previous Beta v1.0.
They are still accepting requests for changes, but not everything will change as they want to keep their main idea for the game.
Hope this helps
Mick
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Post by: Alfndrate
Alpharius wrote: Alfndrate wrote:
4) Also got a demo of the game, and I can honestly say, that the game just ain't for me.
That would be the biggest bummer for me!
Can you explain some of the issues?
And, we're still in playtest mode, right?
Time to make changes still exists?
I felt that the game was clunky and slow, the weird tokens they were using got me confused a few times. I will admit that 1) I had to have a quick demo because I was supposed to be demoing Brushfire myself on the other side of the vendor hall.
Also (and this has nothing to do with the game play), but bad show on Outlaw Miniatures for not even using real models for their demos. They had a display case with a sprue of 1 model (looks like they're doing what Wyrd, and a few other companies are doing and getting their stuff cast by Wargames Factory), and a few other things, but nothing was really built (save some display pieces which did look nice), and they used hard acrylic silhouette cut-outs of models. So I wasn't demoing with an actual figure, but a cutout of an actual figure. Kind kept me from getting immersed in the game.
And mick, can you please stop using the orange, large sized text?
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Post by: cincydooley
I think the acrylic cut outs were actually pretty clever.
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Post by: Alfndrate
Certainly better than bare bases , but I mean they had sprues and completed models, they could have set up some and given them a rough/decent paintjob for demos.
*shrugs* to each their own
I will say this, I do plan on keeping the lady of the west model for use in my "all female guild models in Malifaux
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Post by: Breotan
Want... my... wood... buildings... :(
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Post by: Talizvar
I found it a wee bit strange looking at the beginning posts of this Kickstarter by "Mauleed" representing Outlaw Miniatures:
"We would also like to comment on the continued mention of Battle Foam and Romeo in this thread...
...It is in no way part of Battle Foam outside of getting bags made by them. Romeo is a large part of the team because it is his concept and fluff."
There has been a wee bit of conflict with Remeo Filip on behalf of his company "Battlefoam". Lawsuits and physical threats have been quoted in the past: Google now.
BOTH HIM AND HIS WIFE ARE THE ONLY "AGENTS" REGISTERED FOR BOTH COMPANIES.
The Arizona Corporation Commission have his wife listed as the Manager and him as a member specifically for Outlaw Games so your money is going into the same kitty.
See this site:
http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/corp-detail.p?name-id=L17874290
A kickstarter is based on trust, you be the judge of the character of the individuals in charge. I hope all goes well for the customers but this fellow has been volitile in the past and may continue to be in the future.
Let the buyer beware.
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Post by: Madmick
@Tralizar
Romeo was very up front about his involvement during the Kick Starter. The figures actually rose quite a bit that day.
The fact that he has done several podcasts where he talks about WWX would also be a nice indication as he has nothing to hide about his involvement.
During Beasts of War coverage of Salute, Warren asks Romeo's wife about WWX also.
So not really a scandal there as far as I am concerned.
I think everyone knows that I am a backer of this product. As such, I find it reassuring that a person with a proven business record has his finger on the pulse.
As this negates the worry of trusting a new developer to find his feet. Not that I wouldn't trust someone on KS, but I was just making a simple comparison between two extremes.
In new news though, we had the image of the new Doomsday model, which is the first of the Heavy Supports for the Enlightened.
It certainly looks true to scale, my only worry is gonna be carrying it, hehe
Although I have to say that I will mainly be getting the Enlightened Bosses as I decided to concentrate on Outlaws, Warrior Nation and the Union.
Still, I'm happy they have progressed with making some new models to drool over! Can't wait to see the others now,
but I am mostly excited about seeing the BlackJack for the Outlaws, who could possibly not want a trike of +10 shootyness???? hehe
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Post by: Alfndrate
Dude, please stop using the orange text color, it's a clear violation of Rule #1
Please remember that posting and reading online is a visual format and as such the spelling, grammar and look of your posts is the only way others understand what you are saying. Therefore, in order to be polite, all users are expected to make an effort to use proper spelling, grammar and punctuation and should refrain from using internet shorthand or other distracting methods of writing, such as writing a post completely bolded, with capital letters, in a strange color, etc.
The bolded and oranged part...
As to the image you posted, that thing is fething blocky as hell, and it overhangs off of the base
Though I think I found the inspiration for that model
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Post by: AgeOfEgos
Alpharius wrote:Large and/or orange text is OK for occasional use (especially by certain MOdertors!) but as an everyday, all the time thing?
I hope you're not intending on making that a habit!
As noted above, please refrain from making large posts in all orange text. Thanks
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Post by: Talizvar
Madmick wrote:@Tralizar
Romeo was very up front about his involvement during the Kick Starter. The figures actually rose quite a bit that day.
The fact that he has done several podcasts where he talks about WWX would also be a nice indication as he has nothing to hide about his involvement.
During Beasts of War coverage of Salute, Warren asks Romeo's wife about WWX also.
So not really a scandal there as far as I am concerned.
In the referenced podcast Romeo makes a strong point of saying that that Outlaw Miniatures are the "owning company" which seems a bit deceptive when he is in fact the Agent for that company and he does not say so.
He is already talking about the agreements with online distributers vs. bricks and mortar stores, the same hot topics he had in the past.
The methods of management will not change, so review how Battlefoam has been in the news and it will give a good indication for the future.
By all means, if the management style used inspires confidence, then back them.
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That big truck thing is Resin, correct?
Have there been any pics of any of the plastic models yet? I am very curious to see how well they turn out, so please post some pics (if you don't mind) once any get posted.
Thanks.
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Well, I pledged on this one, and I'm looking forward to it finally arriving in our hands...
Sadly, many of the more enthusiastic members that would keep us up to date during the Kickstarter campaign have disappeared.
With that in mind, here's some of the recent highlights:
Sheriff Mic Ironclad Stats and Special Rules
Update #104 · May 6, 2013 · 39 comments
Name - Sheriff Mic Ironclad
Faction - Lawmen Price -
MSRP $15 -
Discounted Special Preorder Price $10
Model is available now and will ship within 48 hours.
Shipping $3.99 US $8.99 International
Stats Underboss
Cost 125
Small Base
Halo 1/2"
Q 5
AP 2
M 4+
PA 5+
S 2
A 1
L 15
C 2+
I 1
Weapons Shotgun (x2)
One-handed, Template
R: Small Template P: 9 ROF: 2 Special: Reload, RJ-1027
Pistol (x2) One-handed
R: 12" P: 7 ROF: 1 Special:
Fist One-handed, Melee
R: ½" P: 3 ROF: 1
SPECIAL RULES
Smoke Grenades. Once per turn, this model may spend a Shoot Action to throw a Smoke Grenade. Place the center of the 4" template within 12" of this model and in Line of Sight. Make a Marksmanship test, and if passed, the template lands where intended. If missed, the template scatters as normal. The template lasts until the beginning of this model’s next activation, and completely blocks Line of Sight into it, out of it, or through it. The template (i.e. the column of smoke) is considered to have a height of 4".
Best of the Best. Any friendly Hired Hands using an Action to Shoot while within 12" of this model add +1 to their Marksmanship Test.
Fiction set in the WWX world:
WILD WEST EXODUS THREE BOOK DEAL
Update #105 · May 23, 2013 · 3 comments
Winged Hussar Publishing, LLC is excited to announce an agreement with Outlaw Miniatures to publish a series of books based in the world of their game, Wild West Exodus through it’s Zmok Books imprint.
Wild West Exodus is set in an alternative history near the end of the American Civil War and based in the old west. It features historical and legendary figures – but not necessarily in the way that you currently know them.
The first three books will compose the Jessie James Archives entitled, Honor Among Thieves (October 2013), An Outlaw’s Wrath (November 2013) and Abundant Riches (December 2013).
In the twilight years of the Nineteenth Century, mankind is perched upon a new age of discovery and enlightenment. But beneath the hope and optimism, a rising darkness taints the air, touching the heart of every man, woman, and child. The United States has clawed its way out of a terrible civil war, but the wounds are deep.
The nation finds itself poised on the edge of ruin, the agony of division eating at its very marrow. Into this dark time a light of hope emerges, carried from the Old World by Dr. Burson Carpathian, scientist, visionary, and would be saviour. Dr. Carpathian, however, is following a path laid out for him by the darkest of powers - a force of remorseless spite “The Dark Council”.
New Science collides with ancient malevolence, and a technology powered by the very essence of evil itself moves to crush the hearts and minds of men. Outlaws grasp for wealth and renown in the turbulent chaos, while once noble leaders strive to defend nations that now exist only in their memories. Brilliant minds are turned onto dark, forbidden paths as every life is twisted by the bitter touch of the Dark Council, unlocking the foul potential within each man’s soul. There is no certain future as a continent is torn asunder, each isolated faction struggling to maintain their share of power beneath the gathering darkness.
Join us on our dark journey into an alternate history where a hidden evil strives to corrupt even the purest champions of Man. Take your first step upon this dread path today!
Winged Hussar Publishing LLC, publishes books on military history . Through its Zmok Books Imprint it publishes epic SF&F .
The Jessie James Archives represents the latest addition to that catalogue of books.
Follow us on Facebook (Winged Hussar Publishing, LLC) and Twitter (@WingHusPubLLC) for updates, extras and interviews.
You can also sign up for our newsletter on our website.
For more information, please contact Vincent Rospond at Hetman@wingedhussarpublishing.com or call at 732-714-7000.
Here are previews of the "MERCS" crew, including some of the best Not-Firefly stuff out there...
8 Days Of Mercs (Day 1 Zarelda)
Update #107 · Jun 13, 2013 · 8 comments
We have a very special surprise for all of our backers. When we announced the Mercs for the Wild West Exodus range we never expected such an amazing response.
Now that we are down to the last hand full of surveys left to finalize, we are bringing you a surprise.
For the next eight days we will unveil the finished versions of each of the eight Mercs.
Now that is not the only surprise. Originally we has announced that the Mercs would be resin like our vehicles and specialized troops.
Hold on to your cowboy hats ladies and gentlemen. All of the Mercs will be mad in the same high grade plastic as our hired hands. The HIPS plastic we use is the finest quality plastic you can have for minis in our scale. These awesome looking Mercs will all be made this way.
Even more exciting is the fact that nobody has to pay anything extra for this bonus change. Its already included with your pledge if you selected the Mercs as your reward or add-on.
So lets check out the first of eight Mercs.
Zarelda Kincade
Oh, if you spot those cool bases don't be alarmed. Those are our new plastic injection molded bases coming out soon.
8 Days Of Mercs (Day 2 Jake Mattia)
Update #108 · Jun 14, 2013 · 7 comments
For the next eight days we will unveil the finished versions of each of the eight Mercs.
So lets check out the second of eight Mercs.
Jake Mattia
8 Days Of Mercs (Day 3 Sierra Icarus)
Update #109 · Jun 15, 2013 · 10 comments
For the next eight days we will unveil the finished versions of each of the eight Mercs.
So lets check out the second of eight Mercs.
Sierra Icarus
8 Days Of Mercs (Day 3 Hicks Kincade)
Update #110 · Jun 16, 2013 · 4 comments
For the next eight days we will unveil the finished versions of each of the eight Mercs.
So lets check out the second of eight Mercs.
Hicks Kincade
8 Days Of Mercs (Day 5 River Flowing)
Update #111 · Jun 17, 2013 · 7 comments
For the next eight days we will unveil the finished versions of each of the eight Mercs.
So lets check out the fifth of eight Mercs.
River Flowing
8 Days Of Mercs (Day 6 Totem Sun)
Update #112 · Jun 18, 2013 · 2 comments
For the next eight days we will unveil the finished versions of each of the eight Mercs.
So lets check out the sixth of eight Mercs.
Totem Sun
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8 Days Of Mercs (Day 5 River Flowing) Correct Image of Model
Update #113 · Jun 18, 2013 · 14 comments
Hey guys,
Sorry but after getting some feedback on River Flowing we went back and made some important changes. Here is the actual model people will get.
1. Smother nicer face.
2. Smaller handles on both weapons.
3. Swap out of weapons from left to right hand to better show the pose.
4. Small details in the skirt.
Hope you guys like the new version and please ignore the first image from a couple days ago.
Thanks
8 Days Of Mercs (Day 7 K-Free)
Update #114 · Jun 19, 2013 · 4 comments
For the next eight days we will unveil the finished versions of each of the eight Mercs.
So lets check out the Seventh of eight Mercs.
K-Free
8 Days Of Mercs (Day 8 Captain Marcus Wayward)
Update #115 · Jun 20, 2013 · 18 comments
For the next eight days we will unveil the finished versions of each of the eight Mercs.
So lets check out the eighth of eight Mercs.
Captain Marcus Wayward
Union Heavy Support Rolling Thunder
Update #116 · Jun 21, 2013 · 8 comments
Here is a little something to keep you guys talking over the weekend. This is the Union Heavy Support Rolling Thunder. Yes, its that big and that awesome.
Some changes to Capt Wayward
Update #117 · Jun 22, 2013 · 9 comments
We heard your requests to fix a few issues with Capt Wayward. We felt that since he is such a huge part of the MERCS team we should listen.
Gone is the silly video game hair and bell coat.
We hope you guys see our vision for his action packed pose. He is blocking a close combat attack and shooting his enemy in the face. Now that is a captain I want to fight for.
In Jesse We Trust.
Backer Created Characters First Look
Update #118 · Jun 24, 2013 · 4 comments
So in our kickstarter campaign we had three super cool backers that decided to create their own characters.
These three guys worked with our team over the past several months to come up with some great ideas for WWX.
One of these backers actually purchased a model of his character for each backer past a specific reward. We now know him as the "Secret Backer".
We also got a chance to work with two other great guys who provided some great ideas that our team used in creating their minis.
Well we are happy to announce and show off these three new minis coming out soon.
Marcus Killingsworth (The Secret Backer Mini)
Sasha Tanner (The Assassin)
The Wraith (Bounty Hunter)
We want to say thanks to each of these backers and what they contributed to the effort and to you guys the backers.
Next up, some character models!
This guy here may bring a groan from anyone who has tried to read a few Kickstarter comments sections!
Abe Lincoln of the Union Army
Update #120 · Jul 1, 2013 · 7 comments
Here is the first look at Abe Lincoln. This model actually comes with 2 sets of arms that can be changed out.
This allows you to set Abe up with the look that you like best.
Check out the detail in his face and how close he looks to the real man.
Very cool.
Dark Council and Spirit Totem Influence Markers
Update #121 · Jul 8, 2013 · 9 comments
The Spirit Totem in the middle is shown with additional mini totems also usable to get influence tokens. When a large totem is surrounded by six mini totems the influence range extends to the entire table. The Warrior Nation call this a spiritual battle ground.
Every Dark Council Member model gives the user 1 influence token usable to change dice roles during the game.
Stone Fist Mounted On Running Thunder Model
Update #122 · Jul 8, 2013 · 16 comments
We think that this model has gotten some of the most fan feedback of our range. We wanted to really show you what this guy was all about.
Here is Stone Fist on his Energy Beast named Running Thunder. Not only has his Energy Beast continued to live long after being energized with the earth power but now carries two full size Union cannons stolen by Stone Fist after a bloody battle.
These cannons are some of the most deadly weapons in our game. With a Power 12 Range 24 Howitzer shot x2, Running Thunder packs a major punch.
Look for the painted version in just a couple weeks.
The second picture is for size only.
Another miniature that makes me think I'll be picking up some Warrior Nation stuff eventually - if not sooner!
Geronimo of the Warrior Nation
Update #123 · Jul 10, 2013 · 13 comments
We are not even going to waste time saying a bunch of stuff here. This model is just freakin AWESOME!
And finally, the State of the Union (and Outlaws, and Warrior Nation, and Confederates, and...):
Project Status #1 at the 4 month mark.
Update #124 · Jul 12, 2013 · 7 comments
Hello WWX Fans,
As you all know the shipping date for WWX is quickly approaching. We have been keeping everyone excited and entertained with great updates and photos of the models in the range.
We also promised all of our great backers that we would continue updating everyone on progress and production. So this update is designed to get you guys in the know on exactly what is happening and how things are progressing.
The first thing to remember is that when we ended our Kickstarter campaign in late March we had set ourselves up for a very demanding and challenging schedule. 80+ models in less than six months that all had a unique look and feel.
This meant that all of these minis not only would end up looking totally different than the next but they would all have a detailed and exciting look. With that came concept art, 3D design, meetings, story lines, stat building, and of course production. Oh, and lets not forget tooling production that requires many programming and machining steps itself.
As we get closer to our dates we will break up the updates in sections. We look at the overall project as four specific sections. Media (rule book, art book, comics, novels, box art), In-house Resin (models being made in the USA like bosses and vehicles), China Plastic (hired hands, and other similar items), and lastly Accessories (templates, counters, dice, and terrain).
So how is progress moving along on the great game of WWX? Actually our teams have been doing an amazing job. Many of the deadlines we set for ourselves have been achieved and actually finished early. However with any new company surprises will happen.
These surprises have pushed some time lines a bit past what we expected so we are keeping you guys in to loop every step of the way.
Here are the four sections and how they are progressing at this time.
Media - 75% finished - Final rules have been written and the book is in the final stages of layout. With the hard part behind us we will be sending the print ready rule book files to China on August 1st. Printing will take 3 weeks for all 3000 of our books. They will than quickly put those on a container and ship them out to our US warehouse. Expected delivery will be mid to late September to us.
In-House Resin - 60% finished - With close to 10,000 models to make we are very happy on how quickly the resin is being produced. Not only that but the quality is beyond what we expected and is getting us very excited about the overall product. Many of you have purchased Mic Ironclad or received the Lady Of The West. The quality of our final product has actually increased since those models have been made. This is a really cool and exciting event for us. The overall resin count should be on time in mid to late September.
China Plastic - 20% finished - This is the one area that has moved the slowest. Mainly this has moved slower because of the workload that our partner has been sacked with. The China company we are using is the best in the business. With being the best you get a lot of work and our partner is no different. This has caused a bit of a delay on their end. It's something we have discussed in great detail with the owners and they totally understand our need for fast delivery. On the other hand WWX and our partners will not rush a product just to make a deadline. We want you guys to have the best miniatures possible and that takes a bit of time. These plastic minis will be the best in the industry no matter what.
So what does that mean for delivery dates? The fact is that with adding templates to the plastic needs and the entire Mercs batch as a special secret bonus plastic kit instead of resin added around 4 weeks of delays. This means the we are looking at late October or even the first week of November for our plastics. However we are looking at possibly pushing them faster. We just don't want to rush a great product to get things to you three or four weeks early.
Accessories - 65% finished - Currently Micro Art is banging away on the buildings and Chessex is finalizing the dice. We also have other items like posters and goodies that are well ahead of schedule. We don't feel like there will be any delay on these items arriving to us on time for mid to later September.
In the end we are around 55% finished with our project. Considering the amount of minis in the range and the super cool additional items we are doing great. We will keep you guys posted on a two week basis so everyone knows exactly what is happening. As always we will continue to show you sweet pictures of the models as they are finished by our great team of artists.
Have a great weekend to all and remember, "In Jesse We Trust"
Outlaw Team
After that big catch up, I'll see if I can stay on top of stuff here going forward...
Automatically Appended Next Post: And the latest updates on the latest update (from the Comments section):
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Creator Outlaw Miniatures, LLC 18 minutes ago
As a special secret Plastic instead of resin secret. Not actually free Charlie. Sorry if that came off confusing. However if the plastic delay is longer than a couple weeks we do plan to take care of everyone in a special way.
More to come in update two and three as China gets us the latest on production. No matter what you guys will always get the best possible treatment from us. We promises there will be zero sad pandas in the WWX community.
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Creator Outlaw Miniatures, LLC 6 minutes ago
Just so you guys know we will still be pushing to meet our deadline of September. This is the status today but things may speed up as we move forward. Some things moved quicker and some slower but our goal is still September. You guys will totally be in the know every step of the way from now on.
Don't forget that you will still be able to meet the team and try out the game at GenCon. We will have a PDF version of the rule book then and almost 35+ models to look at. We will even have 2 special edition early release models that did not come out on Kickstarter at our booth.
Automatically Appended Next Post: GENCON Update:
Re: Gen Con
Postby Outlaw » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:49 pm
Yes guys, we will be at GenCon at the Battle Foam booth. We will not be selling anything from the kickstarter but we will have some special edition models for sale. We will have the full details on this come August 1st.
I can however tell you the names of one of the models.
Kyle The Black as the underboss for the Enlightened. He is a new model that you guys have not see yet. More to come on that and the additional goodies.
Stay tuned.
Re: Gen Con
Postby Outlaw » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:24 am
Yes, you guys will all have access to Kyle The Black and the other secret mini. Both will go up on our shopping cart at the same time as GenCon opens. We are making those models now and will have pictures of them painted before the show. Everyone will get the models at exactly the same price as show customers. We will also be supplying our UK warehouse with the models so shipping internationally should be much cheaper than before.
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Another update - I shall persevere!
Can Sheriff Alpha be far off?!?
Project Update #125: Doc Holliday (one of the coolest models in our range)
Posted by Outlaw Miniatures, LLC Like
Here is Doc Holliday, one of the coolest models in the game.
We loved this model from day one and really took our time in design. We think you guys will like the silent but deadly feel he has. Check out his actual game stats below.
Doc Holliday
Under Boss
Cost: 165 Small Base Halo 1"
Q AP M PA S A L C I
6 3 2+ 7+ 1 0 25 2+ 1
Weapons
Holliday Special Six Shooters (x2)
One-handed
R: 24" P: 8 ROF: 1
Special: Blast 3”,Armor Piercing, RJ-1027
Mini Derringer
One-handed
R: 8" P: 10 ROF: 1
Deck Of Cards
One-handed, Thrown
R:2" P:5 ROF: 4
Special: – Decapitate
Fist
One-handed, Melee
R: ½" P:4 ROF: 1
Special Rules
Split Fire - This model may target different enemy models with the same shoot action.
Gambling Man - If this model kills an enemy model with the Deck Of Cards attack it can immeediate move up to 6" in any direction.
Breather Mask - This model suffers no effects from smoke or gas type weapons.
Also, an interesting thing as come up that I'd like to hear opinions on!
WWX is showing a lot of really cool looking renders, but can they effectively make the transition to actual models?
Some particularly potentially (!) troublesome examples would be Abe and the giant bear Geronimo - can it be done?
I hope so!
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Post by: Hulksmash
Some of these are looking good. Still glad I didn't go in on this but I might pick up a few here and there to paint.
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Post by: cincydooley
Are those renders?
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Post by: Cyporiean
Yes, you can tell by the shadows.
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Post by: Alpharius
And could cause issues down the road, if the miniatures don't match up well...
It is an...odd choice to make, to go forward with renders that really tend to look as if they maybe, could, might be miniatures.
The "Sheriff Mic Ironclad" miniature came out nicely though, so I'm hopeful.
Not sure if a lot of those flowing, flapping coats will translate.
And I'm really hoping that they pull it off with Geronimo!
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Post by: Alfndrate
Did they give any reason why they're going with those funky bases? My only complaint with not going with a "standard" base (i.e. lipped or beveled) is that those base inserts that you see might not fit other games/systems/etc, which is a shame because the floorboard ones that you see on Sierra Icarus and Totem sun would be fantastic for Warmachine's Pirates, Malifaux's showgirls, 40k trench fighters (IG, or DKoK specifically).
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Post by: Alpharius
Good question - and I have no idea!
I know that I'll be basing all of my WWX stuff on 'standard' bases, be it GW or PP style - TBD.
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Overboss Sheriff Alpha here with your latest update!
Production Update #2 Aug 1st
Update #126 · Aug 1, 2013 · 3 comments
Hi WWX fans,
So the month of August is here and already moving quickly. We wanted to get you the latest information on the production of our cool models. We also wanted to get you some more model pictures to keep you excited for the delivery date that is just around the corner.
Just like the first update we will break everything down into section so you guys know exactly what is going on at each step.
Please don't forget that you can email us any questions you have at info@outlawminiatures.com or go directly to www.wildwestexodusforum.com to see the latest and greatest going on with the WWX world.
Media - 90% finished - The Rule Book is officially at the printers and getting put into print production. We are very happy with the overall look and feel of the book and thing you guys will find it to be an awesome surprise regarding WWX and its history. The Rule Book is packed with over 200 pages of fluff that should really help set the mood for gaming.
In-House Resin - 75% finished - To be honest this has been our greatest surprise. Not only are we still way ahead of schedule on the resin but the models are coming out with amazing detail. We recently purchased a very high quality 3D printer and have been spitting out master models at a rate of 1 to 2 per day. In the 3D printing world that is very vast. What is so exciting for you guys is that the 3D images you have been seeing and can see below is the exact detail that these models are being printed at. Just a few more guys to make and we will be all set with in house resin.
China Plastic - 40% finished - As everyone knows this is the part that has taken the longest up to this point. The good news is that our China factory has informed us that with their added new machines they just installed they have really gotten production moving. We should no more about delivery dates on the Aug 15th update. Stay tuned.
Accessories - 80% finished - The tokens and templates are already tooled and going into actual production runs in China. We are simply waiting to decided on the best color for the templates and plastic tokens. We should have some sample plastics to look at in the coming days and the tokens will then go into production. These get done in just a couple days so we should have the entire run of Templates and Tokens ready by the end of this month. The Micro Art Studio guys tell us they are moving ahead without issues and will have everything done in the coming weeks for delivery to our two shipping locations. More to come on the MAS terrain on the Sept 1st update.
So currently we stand at 70% finished with the entire KS project. Things are moving very quickly and we will continue with the by-weekly updates to keep you guys in the loop.
We also added a special update treat with the finished images of the Kaufmann broghers, Judge Stern, and the evil DC member.
Keep an eye out for more updates in the next few days with the latest models.
"In Jesse We Trust" Outlaw Team
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Post by: Alpharius
Overboss Sheriff Alpha here again with your latest update!
The Apache Kid
Update #127 · Aug 2, 2013 · 7 comments
Happy Friday everyone. Here is another of our awesome models. The Outlaw Apache Kid. Once a Warrior Nation up and coming chief he has been tainted by the Dark Council. The appeal of technology and gold has pushed him to leave his tribe and join the bands of outlaws taking over the west. We hope you like him.
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Post by: Fenriswulf
I wish I had of pledged for this instead of the Mantic Kings of War kickstarter. Would have loved to have picked up a $60 pledge for Outlaws, they look really really good.
Will wait to see how they go at retail, but I hope the quality stays this way throughout the development of this. Really really nice looking miniatures.
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Alpharius wrote:Overboss Sheriff Alpha here again with your latest update!
The Apache Kid
Update #127 · Aug 2, 2013 · 7 comments
Happy Friday everyone. Here is another of our awesome models. The Outlaw Apache Kid. Once a Warrior Nation up and coming chief he has been tainted by the Dark Council. The appeal of technology and gold has pushed him to leave his tribe and join the bands of outlaws taking over the west. We hope you like him.
Nice, I prefer the original though:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440239a&prodId=prod2060066a
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Post by: Alpharius
Overboss Sheriff Alpha here yet again with your latest update:
Enlightened Monocav
Update #128 · Aug 5, 2013 · 3 comments
Here is an image of the Enlightened Monocav Light Support Choice.
Not only do these guys move fast (Quickness Eight), but they have a pair of Mini Cannons that shoot Thermite Rounds, and they explode when out of Lifeblood.
So are these things nasty, you better believe they are.
Only the best from Carpathian Enterprises.
A weird machine - kinda cool though!
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Post by: Hulksmash
Depending on retail price I could see some uses for the for my Iron Warriors.
At leats the models are pretty. I just couldn't get into a game who's size doesn't fit with any of my other games. Still will pick up a model from time to time to paint.
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Post by: Alpharius
I can - when the theme is so far out there that it, for the most part, 'doesn't matter'.
I don't really have any Weird Wild West gaming... until now!
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Post by: Alfndrate
Alpharius wrote:I can - when the theme is so far out there that it, for the most part, 'doesn't matter'.
I don't really have any Weird Wild West gaming... until now!
*drops drawers, lets Wyrd knickers fly*
Alph, you could have just come over to the Wyrd side .
Honestly I'm all for weird west, arguably one of my favorite types of settings... I'm just having a hard time getting behind steampunk/western/sci-fi.
And I do hope (for the backers) these models come out as well as they're looking in the mockups.
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Me too - obviously!
I may have to take a look at Wyrd's offering too though, now that you mention it.
Do they have a rules preview available for downloading?
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Overboss Sheriff Alpha back again with your latest update:
Union Locust Light Support Vehicle
Update #129 · Aug 7, 2013 · comment
Here is the first look at the Union Locust Light Support vehicle.
The Union was forced to build these killing machines once they realized the Outlaws and Enlightened had gotten their hands on the Iron Horse technology.
These machines are not as fast but they pack a serious punch.
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Post by: bbb
Their preview renders are interesting, but I'll care a lot more when I see physical models.
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Post by: RiTides
Agreed, bbb! On both counts (the preview renders are indeed nice, for what they are)
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What size base is that on? 50mm?
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Post by: Alpharius
Yeah, no doubt that it is time for actual models to be shown!
I did purchase "Sheriff Mic Ironclad" and it is a very nice model indeed though.
I'm more concerned about the plastic "Hired Hands" coming from China than I am about anything that they'll be making here themselves.
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Overboss Sheriff Alpha back again, shootin' down tumbleweeds and providing you with your latest update:
Special GenCon Early Releases
Update #130 · Aug 9, 2013 · 5 comments
Hi Wild West Exodus fans. As you know we will be attending GenCon on August 15th - 18th. We will be located at booth 633 with our partners Battle Foam. Chad and Sean will be running demos and we will have a full range of models to view along with the official rule book and concept are of upcoming models.
As a special early release we are selling 2 brand new models never before seen. These models will be in limited supply at the show of only 100 of each. We are also making the models available on Thursday morning the 15th via our www.wildwestexodus.com web store. This will help our fans not able to attend the show.
The first model is "Kyle The Black" of the Enlightened faction. Kyle serves as the main surgeon for Dr. Carpathian and his deadly creations. His body has been transformed to not only operate on the bodies of the dead but to also be a deadly opponent on the battle field. Many men have died at the multiple hands of Kyle the Black.
Kyle The Black will come with an official playable character profile card and is a full resin model. $22.00
Next up is "US Marshal McClain", of both the Lawmen and the Outlaws. Marshal McClain has been know to fight the lawless men of the west with tactics considered illegal to some. For this reason he conceals his identity whenever possible so that he may carry on his workings with a faceless presence. Civilians have questioned who truly he fights for. Who will you side McClain with?
US Marshal McClain will come with an official playable character profile card and is a full resin model. $13.00
Stop by booth 633. We can't wait to meet everyone.
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Post by: Yonan
Looking good! I have no intention of playing the game but really love the minis and glad I went in for a bunch of outlaws. Should be great fun to paint.
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Post by: Alfndrate
I was seriously tempted to grab Kyle McCain at GenCon as he doesn't look too sci-fi... Stupid goggles...
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Overboss Alpha, back again!
Official Game Cards For Kyle The Black and Marshal McClain
Update #131 · Aug 9, 2013 · 3 comments
With the upcoming early release of these two cool models we wanted to share the official game cards with you. Enjoy and see you at GenCon.
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Post by: cincydooley
I'll be picking up these two models at gencon and will follow with a review, if y'all like.
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Post by: cygnnus
Alpharius wrote:Overboss Sheriff Alpha back again with your latest update:
Union Locust Light Support Vehicle
Update #129 · Aug 7, 2013 · comment
Here is the first look at the Union Locust Light Support vehicle.
The Union was forced to build these killing machines once they realized the Outlaws and Enlightened had gotten their hands on the Iron Horse technology.
These machines are not as fast but they pack a serious punch.
Not enough guns... 
Valete,
JohnS
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Post by: Alpharius
cincydooley wrote:I'll be picking up these two models at gencon and will follow with a review, if y'all like.
Yes please - I'm looking forward to it!
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Post by: Alpharius
Overboss Alpha returns with another update:
Blackjack the Outlaw Light Support Vehicle.
Update #132 · Aug 13, 2013 · comment
Here is the nastiest little three wheeled monster you will ever see scream across the open desert. Built by the blacksmith's of the old west and powered by RJ-1027 Power Cells it rockets the dirty outlaws to all of their robberies.
Not only do they move like lightning but they can shoot the lights out with their four mini cannons in the nose. Watch out Lawmen, this baby has you in it's sights.
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Post by: RiTides
I'm a sucker for models with bandannas on their faces... love that look. Whether it's rebels, outlaws, anything!
Hence, I quite like that rider although I'm not as sure about the bike...
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Post by: Yonan
Love the outlaws, but the trike thing never does it for me. Good quality sculpts, but not my thing sadly.
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Post by: Empchild
Oh must pick those up at Gencon as I already 8 models for WWX. I honestly just love them and could care less if I ever played (though I plan on it).
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Post by: Alpharius
Will these be available at Gen Con?
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Post by: frank6002
Right first off sorry for not posting in a while life has been getting in the way. Thought you all may like some pictures I found of the minis at Gen con , hopefully these get you going like they did with me. Can't wait to get my hands on Geronimo to paint.
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Post by: Alpharius
Thanks for these!
I hope some more closeups of these miniatures show up too!
Especially of the plastic Hired Hands out of the Chinese factory...
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Post by: frank6002
No worrys.I belive that the Enlightened hired hands (walkers and rollers) are plastic and the other hired hands at the back of the top photo.
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Post by: Mundar
Yes those are the china plastics. The models in the back of the photo are union hired hands.
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Post by: frank6002
Found some more pictures for you all to have a look at 
If folk are having problems I will re post these pics when I get home. Should be sorted.
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Post by: Yonan
Nice close(ish) ups! Really glad I went in on this, good to see the plastics came out well. <3 plastic.
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Post by: Alpharius
Sadly I cannot DL those pics, or get them to open, at all.
I keep getting messages that they are corrupted, or contain errors!
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Post by: frank6002
A close up of some Hired Hands, being made by the same company that produces the Malifux Minis. Hope you all like. 
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Post by: Alfndrate
The plastics are being made by Wargames Factory, who are basically making everyone's plastics except for PP, GW, and Warlord Games (the last is because Warlord uses Renedra)
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
Boy, things are going to get ugly when all the hostile-takeovers start.
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Overboss Sheriff Alpha here with the latest update:
A Great Podcast Interview About Wild West Exodus
Update #134 · Aug 22, 2013 · 2 comments
Hey guys,
Things are moving along great and we appreciate all the support at GenCon. Chad and Sean had an amazing time chatting with everyone and can't wait to see everyone at Duel Con in a few weeks.
We have a special surprise for all the WWX fans. The Gamers Lounge Podcast with Bill, Dan, and Spencer had us on tonight. They covered a huge amount of questions summited by their forum members and those got pointed directly at Outlaw himself.
Follow this link to listen in to almost two hours of WWX inside information from the horses mouth.
http://gamerslounge.coda.net/2013/08/21/gamers-lounge-ep-79-wild-west-exodus-ii/
We hope you enjoy what you hear and a production update will be up in just a few more days. Stay tuned for all the latest information.
In Jesse We Trust
But...where are the purdy pictures?!?
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Post by: Alpharius
Overboss Sheriff Alpha here again with the latest update, and this time it is a big one!
The Union Rail Train Is Here
Update #135 · Aug 23, 2013 · 4 comments
As a special Friday surprise we are showing off the official WWX train. Yes, it's huge and it's awesome. This baby is built to smash anything in it's path and the Union loves it. Keep in mind that in future missions all factions will be able to use the train. Some missions will even have the train played as it's own army while the two opposing forces battle it out across the table. Don't get caught sleeping because this beast will kill anyone that comes near it. Look for the train to ship with the rest of the kickstarter items when wave 1 ships out. No need to wait that extra month like we originally thought. We have worked some extra hours to make sure everyone can enjoy this monster the day they get their KS items. For people that did not grab the train as part of the KS you can find it at www.wildwestexodus.com under terrain. Have a great weekend everyone.
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Post by: frank6002
Just listened to the podcast, some very interesting tidbits in it. Some good reveals too.
The train is looking boss aswell like the fact it looks angry.
Happy days, not long now
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Post by: RiTides
The train looks neat, from what I can see of it... but not $240 retail price neat
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Post by: Mundar
roughly 27.5 inches long lol. good lord.
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Post by: frank6002
Just wanted to post the New render of the first of the backer financed model , Sasha Tanner. I think this will be another cracking sculpt. Everything I see makes me want more
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Post by: Alpharius
That is nice!
What faction is he with, or is he a Mercenary?
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If I remember correctly all the backer models will be mercenaries. I'm sure that is was mentioned in one of the podcasts I listened to.
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Overboss Sheriff Alpha here with another update:
Two Backer Created Models are now finished.
Update #136 · Aug 30, 2013 · 2 comments
With our very successful kickstarter we had a few guys that stood out among the crowd. Robert Gunter, and Sasha Tanner both made big contributions to our KS campaign to help everyone of us reach our goal.
For this they ended up getting models made with their input and design in mind. These awesome models are now finished and the rules for them will be revealed soon.
Look for both of these awesome models to be available for purchase as soon as we ship the ks items for our backers in a few weeks.
Let's not also forget about our amazing secret backer that got all of you a free model with your pledges. That gentleman will have his character finished next week and posted for everyone to see.
We hope you like what these guys came up with. We have loved building them and play testing their rules.
Have a great weekend everyone and we'll see you in a couple days with our production update.
In Jesse We Trust
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Overboss Sheriff Alpha here again with another update, this time straight from the Kickstarter comments section:
Creator Outlaw Miniatures, LLC on Aug 28
Hi guys,
Sorry to take so long to reply on KS. As you know we have moved all of our staff over to our official website or to facebook. We just don't want questions in all kinds of places because that is how we will miss something.
Just to clear things up about the comic. The comic is not totally going away. Actually we plan to release 1 large graphic novel each Christmas starting with Christmas 2014. For everyone kickstarting our project you will all receive 3 comics with the limited edition covers as promised. You will also receive the first novel from WWX a $11.99 value as a freebee for the 3 comics not coming.
The main reason we changed this is because our fluff is so vast that we could not possibly fit it all in comics. The first book alone is over 300 pages. The second and third books coming out in November and December of this year are over 300 also. That's 900+ pages of fluff before January 1st. As you can imagine we could not fit all that goodness into 20 page comics.
What we are doing is making plans on doing annual graphic novels to tie in new story lines and cool models. The graphic novel is slated at 50 pages or so and will also feature new concept art and other goodies. Again this will go into print around Christmas 2014 so next year guys.
Also look for 5 books this year from WWX. The Jesse James novels and the Lucinda Loveless series. Oops, I just game something away.
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Post by: BobtheInquisitor
I anticipate the novels with relish.
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Post by: Alpharius
I'm currently having difficulties getting a response to my email to them about getting a miscast model replaced.
Hopefully it is nothing, but we'll see.
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Post by: Alfndrate
Actually novels sounds like a pretty good move. While I originally gakked on this campaign, they're doing a lot more to bring me into their corral. Much like a wild mustang, I'm waiting for some poor sod to try and throw a rope around my neck to tame me .
I should check out the model I got from AdeptiCon again see how sci-fi-ish she is, as that is my only complaint about the models. Like too much steampunk (i.e. rivets, goggles, etc...) is a bad thing, too much sci-fi I feel is also a bad thing.
Hey Outlaw! Time to start showing real models and not the 3d renders, let us see the goods!
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Post by: cincydooley
Honestly, it reminds me a lot of the ill-fated Will Smith turdfest Wild Wild West in terms of aesthetic.
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Overboss Sheriff Alpha here with the latest - this time straight from the Official Forum for WWX:
by Outlaw » Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:21 am
So let me get you guys some info so you know what to pass along to the masses.
There is only one container at this point. By the looks of things and how production on the books and plastic is going we should be leaving China on September 18th or just around there. That would put the container in Long Beach California a few days after October. Our guys here in the US will already be prepared for the arrival so boxes will be pre packaged with Resin models and anything else we are doing in the states.
This means that as soon as the container is opened we will start putting sprues in boxes and shipping out the goods. For our UK and EU backers you will have the same type of set up. The difference will be that instead of shipping everything together in one box you will get two shipments. The first will be the MAS buildings and the second will be the actual game contents.
The order will more then likely fall like this. US, Mexico, and Canada will start seeing tracking numbers and packages sometime in October. At around the same time UK, EU, and OZ customer swill start seeing MAS buildings arriving. Soon after the main box will arrive.
I will tell everyone a truthful fact. The Battle Foam bags and art book will not arrive for another 2 months. The main reason for that is the container size and logistics. We filled the first container with rule books and plastic and had no room for the bags. This means the remainder of the art books and the bags will be coming on our November container in time for Christmas. Don't worry, nobody will be charged extra shipping. We plan on taking that cost on ourselves because it's our fault it could not fit.
Don't forget that as soon as the container form China leaves we will post the vessel number and ship details so you guys can log into the online ship tracker. This will show you a by the minute view of the exact location of the boat on the water. No BS here, cause Jesse would not approve.
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Post by: Hulksmash
Gotta give them credit. I didn't back partially because I had a bit of KS burnout, partially because I didn't care for the game, and mostly because of who was involved with the project. It's good to see it's going smoothly (for the most part) and that communications are solid.
Also the mini I got at Adepticon was amazing. Makes me wish I'd picked up a couple of the models I was thinking of just for painting.
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Post by: Yonan
TL;DR: So currently we stand at 98% finished with the entire KS project. Production Update #3 Sept 16th. We are almost there everyone!!!! Ok so we are a bit excited right about now. As you can see from the latest updates and facebook posts we just released Lawmen to round out all 5 armies from the kickstarter. We never planned on doing this but we knew our fans wanted it so we put in the extra hours and it paid off. Lawmen will ship with everyone's backer rewards early next month so if you like them add them via the wwx website asap. Just like the first two updates we will break everything down into section so you guys know exactly what is going on at each production stage. Please don't forget that you can email us any questions you have at info@outlawminiatures.com or go directly to www.wildwestexodusforum.com to see the latest and greatest going on with the WWX world. Media - 98% finished - The Rule Books are almost finished and will be getting packed for shipping early next week. Both the Mini Rulebook and Hard Cover Rule Book look amazing and total out to 300 pages for the main and 64 pages for the mini. The main has all the fluff, hobby tips, and enough stories to keep you busy for weeks. The mini rule book is a clean and direct look at the rules that you can keep in your official WWX gaming bag. These will be on a boat to America in just a few short days. In-House Resin - 99% finished - All of the master molds and models have been finished. Not just the ones for kickstarter but the ones for Lawmen also. These are looking amazing and many of you have seen the quality in person at GenCon or even in your own hands. With Kyle The Black, McClain and Ironclad you have seen an early preview of what your rewards will look like. I think everyone can agree that these will be top notch models that you will be proud to paint and play. China Plastic - 95% finished - Yes, you are seeing that correctly. China is 95% done with all of our plastics. They heard our requests to get the project done on time and they have busted their butts to do it. Many hard working people stayed up very late to get this done for all of us. As of right now all of the model sprues are finished. We are simply waiting on the main WWX tokens to round out the project and being mass production. Don't let that worry you since injection molding thousands of parts only takes a few days at best. We have been told that these items will all ship in the next week or two at the latest. With a short 3 week trip across the ocean it should put us shipping to you guys by mid October. Of course we will keep everyone posted on everything from the container number to the boat it is packed on so you can trace it via ocean freight websites. This way everyone knows when these babies hit the US. Accessories - 100% finished - Micro Art Studios did an amazing job and actually got the terrain done early. The UK warehouse has all of the terrain ready and waiting for the other items to arrive. The US will be getting their goods in just a few days. These look awesome and will ship on time with everyone's other rewards. So currently we stand at 98% finished with the entire KS project. It has been a long run and we can't wait for you guys to get your rewards. We know you will love them once you see them. Please follow us on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/WildWestExodus Or become a memeber of the official forum at www.wildwestexodusforum.com "In Jesse We Trust" Outlaw Team
This KS has been executed very well so far, gotta hand it to them.
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Post by: Alpharius
What the...?!?!?
Someone other than Overboss Sheriff Alpha posting a WWX update?!?
Praise be!
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I wish that I could have used more minis from that game. I only went in for mercs, because I know my gaming group will not go for the game. Damn.
On the upside, I hope the released crew gets assigned to Dreamforge.
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Post by: RiTides
Yeah, it's a little disheartening from the Dreamforge side of the fence to see this get turned around so quickly, if it is indeed about to ship from China. But I'm happy for you lot...!
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Post by: Alpharius
 RiTides wrote:Yeah, it's a little disheartening from the Dreamforge side of the fence to see this get turned around so quickly, if it is indeed about to ship from China. But I'm happy for you lot...!
You sound...less than convincing there.
Still, Krooters gonna Kroot!
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
Did the ellipses give him away?
It's just nice to know that it is possible for WGF to pull out all the stops and make it happen. Although if I understand correctly, only the henchman and (maybe) underbosses are in plastic, so it was a relatively limited involvement on their part.
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I thought it was only the 'hired hands' that were getting the plastic treatment?
So yes, even less of a commitment, which is probably why they were able to get them through WGF so quickly?
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
in my mind, henchman = hired hands. Sorry if I'm not down with the lingo.
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No worries, for all I know, they ARE the same thing?
As for the game itself, well, I haven't really had a chance to go over the rules but...
...I haven't picked up any vehicles. I didn't really like the look of most of them though some are growing on me.
I wonder if I'll be at a distinct disadvantage in a game because of that?
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Post by: Millsbomb
So I backed WWX
And decided to design my own terrain. Any other backers here? What are you guys doing for terrain?
Here are some 3D renders of my designs. there are more on my blog.
http://plansofdiceandmen.blogspot.com.au/2013/09/in-capitalist-america-hobby-earns-you.html
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Nice terrain, Millsbomb! Very cool
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Post by: Yonan
Millsbomb wrote:So I backed WWX
And decided to design my own terrain. Any other backers here? What are you guys doing for terrain?
Nice terrain! I have no intention of playing in the wild west setting (not my thing), so will be using my large quantity of deadzone terrain for most games soon I believe.
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RiTides wrote:Nice terrain, Millsbomb! Very cool
Thanks
Yonan wrote:Millsbomb wrote:So I backed WWX
And decided to design my own terrain. Any other backers here? What are you guys doing for terrain?
Nice terrain! I have no intention of playing in the wild west setting (not my thing), so will be using my large quantity of deadzone terrain for most games soon I believe.
Thanks
I hope WWX gains traction in my local group. If not I guess I can always use my terrain for Malifaux or start a Deadlands campaign.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
While Overboss Sheriff Alpharius is busy posting the latest update... I have a question that does not seem to have an answer, neither here nor on the KS comments:
What about the poor shmucks who, like me, only pledged for resin pieces? Weren't those 99% done?
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Post by: nix2825
Here's the latest kickstarter update.
Project Update #139: The Boat Is Leaving China!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey everyone.
If this weekend could not get any better we have official news that the boat is leaving China.
Here is the boat name Hatsu Courage 0795-058E
Go to this website - http://www.marinetraffic.com/ais/
From there enter the boat name in the top left hand side. (Hatsu Courage)
We also have the container number for you to track if you need it. FSCU4632150
Here is how you can track this beast full of WWX goodness all the way to the USofA.
http://www.shippingline.org/track/?container=FSCU4632150
http://www.searates.com/container/tracking/
You will get an exact live location of what the boat is doing and when it will reach US Customs.
Keep in mind that once the boat reaches the US it still needs to clear customs and get put on a truck to reach our warehouse.
From there we take the container, unpack it and begin the process of shipping orders. This should be a very exciting month. As always please email us if you have any questions.
Thanks guys and as always, In Jesse We Trust
Automatically Appended Next Post: Mathieu Raymond wrote:While Overboss Sheriff Alpharius is busy posting the latest update... I have a question that does not seem to have an answer, neither here nor on the KS comments:
What about the poor shmucks who, like me, only pledged for resin pieces? Weren't those 99% done?
What are you asking? If your asking about when everyone is getting their stuff I understand it to be that all the kickstarter rewards are shipping out together once the plastics arrive (in the AZ location) and are packed.
Hopefully that helps.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
From a purely logistical point of view, I fail to understand why the resin-only pledges have to wait for the slow boat from China full of plastics I'm not getting anyway.
You done goofed. Overboss Sherrif Alpharius is gonna be mad you took his job.
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Post by: nix2825
I see what you were asking. I can understand that frustration as well, I had similar questions on other kickstarters I have been involved in. It seems to always come back to overall shipping costs and/or making sure everyone gets their stuff at the same time.
As for Alpharius, I'm sure he's a big boy and can handle another update. worst case scenario he will post the same update himself!
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
I wouldn't go so far as calling it frustration. Mild disappointment, at best. Due to the nature of international shipping, it is guaranteed that not everyone will get their stuff at the same time. I can however understand the shipping cost issue if it's simpler to have the USPS truck come by only once.
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Post by: Alpharius
Overboss Sheriff Alpha is MORE than happy to let someone else share the load in here.
Overboss Sheriff Alpha is still upset that all the people who were so active in here during the Kickstarer have disappeared.
Tumbleweeds blowin' down the street...
...so sad...
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Post by: Cyporiean
 Alpharius wrote:Overboss Sheriff Alpha is MORE than happy to let someone else share the load in here.
Overboss Sheriff Alpha is still upset that all the people who were so active in here during the Kickstarer have disappeared.
Tumbleweeds blowin' down the street...
...so sad...
This campaign really blew the socks off a lot of people.
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Post by: Alfndrate
Alpharius wrote:Overboss Sheriff Alpha is MORE than happy to let someone else share the load in here. Overboss Sheriff Alpha is still upset that all the people who were so active in here during the Kickstarer have disappeared. Tumbleweeds blowin' down the street... ...so sad...
Psh, and I almost got warned several times about my comments Tumbleweed Alf demands less rivets and more western-y stuff! (but no one ever listens to tumbleweeds )
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Maybe you'll get your wish with future releases Kimosabe.
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 Alfndrate wrote: Alpharius wrote:Overboss Sheriff Alpha is MORE than happy to let someone else share the load in here.
Overboss Sheriff Alpha is still upset that all the people who were so active in here during the Kickstarer have disappeared.
Tumbleweeds blowin' down the street...
...so sad...
Psh, and I almost got warned several times about my comments
Tumbleweed Alf demands less rivets and more western-y stuff! (but no one ever listens to tumbleweeds )
I was referencing all the people who were very much into this KS when it was a KS looking to add funding, and who have since disappeared...
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It would be interesting to see how many moved over to the WWX forums and are active there vs how many have just become less active overall. I know Mick has settle in on the WWX forums and is very active.....
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 nix2825 wrote:It would be interesting to see how many moved over to the WWX forums and are active there vs how many have just become less active overall. I know Mick has settle in on the WWX forums and is very active.....
As much as I like this game and want it to succeed, "active" and "Official WWX Forums" aren't words to be used together at this point!
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Well, I think they had a competition for the most posts on various forums about WWX at the time of the kickstarter, so once that was over people lost incentive to post as much.
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Alpharius wrote:I was referencing all the people who were very much into this KS when it was a KS looking to add funding, and who have since disappeared...
I know, so was I but again! less rivets, more western-y!
also bbb, if that's truly the case then that saddens me. If you're going to hype something on other sites/forums, at least be conscienious enough to help develop the community there instead of leaving the one or two threads on the forum to dry out. Overboss Sheriff Alpha doesn't have much of a town to Sheriff over if there's nothing but us tumbleweeds.
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bbb wrote:Well, I think they had a competition for the most posts on various forums about WWX at the time of the kickstarter, so once that was over people lost incentive to post as much.
WHAT?!?
That's...not cool.
Alfndrate wrote:
also bbb, if that's truly the case then that saddens me. If you're going to hype something on other sites/forums, at least be conscientious enough to help develop the community there instead of leaving the one or two threads on the forum to dry out. Overboss Sheriff Alpha doesn't have much of a town to Sheriff over if there's nothing but us tumbleweeds.
Agreed!
That would have been nice... and smart.
There aren't many bigger miniature wargaming forums out there...
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Post by: Yonan
The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree I suppose. Romeo Romeo, why must thou treat us so Romeo.
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Post by: Mathieu Raymond
To be honest, I was a bit wary when I learned who was behind the project, that's why I only went in for the mercs. If they're not too huge, I can use them for Blackwater Gulch.
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Mathieu Raymond wrote:To be honest, I was a bit wary when I learned who was behind the project, that's why I only went in for the mercs. If they're not too huge, I can use them for Blackwater Gulch.
I think they're going to be a bit too large to mix in with the BWG stuff...
And honestly, Romeo's involvement doesn't bother me at all.
Sure, his passion causes some missteps now and then, but overall, I'm OK with him!
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Post by: bbb
 Outlaw Miniatures wrote:Just to clear a few things up. The main reason we have not been posting on here is because updating and posting on Kickstarter is a full time job with a limited staff at this point.
I think we are better served as a company to post on our kickstarter instead of on forums all around the internet.
We also have a very nice fan following already and Mike is one of them. To bash him for supporting the kickstarter is why we have limited the posts ourselves. It seems that no matter what you post on Dakka Dakka someone like yourself will bash or take the whole tread off track just to create drama.
No drama needed here. As for bringing up Battle Foam in every comment you make, have at it. I'm sure they appreciate the free advertising.
I guess people know the right way to read a company name that is clearly visible on the website of said company makes them an employee now.
What would we know, our company name is Outlaw Miniatures but you can call us whatever you like.
I would also like to point out that we are holding a contest for the backer that posts the most news and spreads the word about our ks the most. That may be a reason why Mike here is so excited. Maybe that or maybe the fact that its a good game with good people creating it.
To Mike, thanks and keep up the good work. I'll make sure the guys send you out a check. How many hours have you put in this week? Just need to know for accounting reasons.
I knew I wasn't crazy. I've bolded the part that pertains to my previous comment. Automatically Appended Next Post: That's from 2013/03/06 22:15:33 and on page 7 of 30 in this thread.
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Post by: Alfndrate
*sigh* that doesn't surprise me at all :-\ and would really put me off of backing this game if I saw that before knowing any information. It's fine that you want a "street team" to promote your stuff, but to disappear as quickly as you appear just sucks. Especially when they could have done so much more.
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