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Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 19:19:16


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Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 19:26:24


Post by: Slayer-Fan123


I can dig it.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 19:30:50


Post by: Galef


Cool. Although the scale creep is getting ridiculous. Just look as that Chaos marine behind the Land Raider. He's bigger the Bobby G!

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Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 19:31:13


Post by: nagash42


Baby defiler?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 19:31:41


Post by: warl0rdb0b


That already looks more like a Daemon Engine than the silly ant eater...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 19:35:55


Post by: Yodhrin


Crikey the scaling in that picture hurts my eyes and brain. Details bigger in the background than the foreground, the Land Raider is smaller than a Rhino, mein gott.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 19:41:14


Post by: Elbows


Yep...that is not a good piece of art, lol.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 19:48:44


Post by: Ghaz




What you're looking at is a very small section of the Urban Conquest cover art that's smaller than the size of a postage stamp.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 19:50:45


Post by: Lord Damocles


Looks like a giant shoulder pad on legs.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 20:13:45


Post by: Alpharius


Someone skipped Perspective Day!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 20:31:11


Post by: Nightlord1987


I've always been surprised by the lack of any Spider themed Chapter or traitor marines. Seems like a fun Chapter Symbol to design.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 20:35:10


Post by: Nostromodamus


Came for the tick, stayed for the art critique.



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 20:56:56


Post by: lord_blackfang


Interested to buy Mecha Tick


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 20:58:45


Post by: Original Timmy


 Lord Damocles wrote:
Looks like a giant shoulder pad on legs.

You beat me to it, great minds think alike!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 20:59:11


Post by: Alpharius


The struggle is, apparently, quite real:



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 21:55:28


Post by: Tsukuru


At the size it’s printed, those marines wouldn’t even register as a smudge if they were at the correct scale, to be fair...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 22:03:34


Post by: beast_gts


Looks like a Defiler and a Blight-hauler had a baby...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 22:07:22


Post by: Crimson


Yeah, the perspective is fethed, but I'm pretty sure that in the full sized picture none of us would have noticed.

Anyway. I think the spider looks interesting. As much derided than the daemon engines have been, I like chaos having their own things instead of just imperial stuff with spikes.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 22:11:10


Post by: Kanluwen


It reminds me of the Blood Slaughterer from FW.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 22:12:43


Post by: Mr_Rose


 Lord Damocles wrote:
Looks like a giant shoulder pad on legs.

So, a regular marine then?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/11 23:53:56


Post by: DeffDred


It may be a bad image but at least it isn't Blanche.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 00:01:36


Post by: Crimson


Edited by ingtaer.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 00:10:06


Post by: Davor


Not to be a party pooper here, but how is this news or rumours? Am I missing something? Is this a rumour for a new mini? If so, cool, would like to see more like this.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 00:33:34


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


Davor wrote:
Not to be a party pooper here, but how is this news or rumours? Am I missing something? Is this a rumour for a new mini? If so, cool, would like to see more like this.


For a while now:

Art=mini, mini = art for GW. Just look at the Death Guard codex, nigh on everything in there is a representation of an actual miniature.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 00:39:50


Post by: Adeptus Doritos


It's terrible that Chaos is so neglected by GW, that people will find a drawing the size of a booger on some game cover and get excited over it.

Plus, if any faction should be as broad and diverse as the Imperium, it should be Chaos, IMHO.

We should have entire traitor guard armies. There should be a complete difference between "Renegade" and "Chaos" Marines. There should be 'bigger' Chaos Marines, about the size of Primaris Marines, with 2 wounds. Chaos should be as scary and have all the potential for soup as Imperium... but, nope. GW's position on Chaos seems to be "Make a dude every few years, put spikes on it or something, who gives a damn".


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 00:46:57


Post by: recaf


Is it bad perspective... Or the non-euclidean geometries created by the influence of Chaos?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 01:11:15


Post by: Nostromodamus


ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Davor wrote:
Not to be a party pooper here, but how is this news or rumours? Am I missing something? Is this a rumour for a new mini? If so, cool, would like to see more like this.


For a while now:

Art=mini, mini = art for GW. Just look at the Death Guard codex, nigh on everything in there is a representation of an actual miniature.


And yet there were large Nurgle creatures in the art that never got a related model.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 02:26:31


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Well we know that GW doesn't like to draw units that aren't miniatures, so perhaps this is a taste of things to come after Worldbeater or whatever his asinine name 80 days are up and Dooby comes looking for blood.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 06:23:04


Post by: drazz


Dark mech confirmed?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 06:26:32


Post by: H.B.M.C.


More likely just another Daemon Engine.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 08:44:54


Post by: lord_blackfang


So who's gonna mail GW and say "We found the tick, time for the official reveal"


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 09:05:11


Post by: Hekal Xul


 Original Timmy wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
Looks like a giant shoulder pad on legs.

You beat me to it, great minds think alike!


Maybe a detached Talon of Horus from a Mechabaddon


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 09:15:20


Post by: darthryan


Hekal Xul wrote:
 Original Timmy wrote:
 Lord Damocles wrote:
Looks like a giant shoulder pad on legs.

You beat me to it, great minds think alike!


Maybe a detached Talon of Horus from a Mechabaddon


When you collect 5 deamon primachs at £85 each you get the option to combine them in game to become mechabaddon at the very reasonable price of £150


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 09:17:53


Post by: ListenToMeWarriors


 Nostromodamus wrote:
ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Davor wrote:
Not to be a party pooper here, but how is this news or rumours? Am I missing something? Is this a rumour for a new mini? If so, cool, would like to see more like this.


For a while now:

Art=mini, mini = art for GW. Just look at the Death Guard codex, nigh on everything in there is a representation of an actual miniature.


And yet there were large Nurgle creatures in the art that never got a related model.


Yup, hence me saying nigh on everything. Still waiting for those gribblies from the Morty Vs G man art. But, I believe, that and a specific Chaos Lord are the only examples from that codex.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 13:19:46


Post by: Geifer


I wouldn't mind a new daemon engine. Not sure I'd go the tick/spider route, but it's better than nothing.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 16:16:31


Post by: MajorWesJanson


No-one has come up with the obvious name for it yet?

HERE-TICK


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 16:29:05


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I'm all for more Daemon Engines as long as they are more Daemon Engine, and less Daemon Engine.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 16:54:42


Post by: EnTyme


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
No-one has come up with the obvious name for it yet?

HERE-TICK


I prefer the Chao-Tick


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 16:56:29


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Let's face it, as clever as your names are, if this thing is real, it's going to have a triple- or quadruple-barrelled cluster-feth of a nonsense name.

Bloodshriek Venge-Killer or Darkskuttle Slicer-Killer or some other such nonsense.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 17:17:54


Post by: lord_blackfang


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Let's face it, as clever as your names are, if this thing is real, it's going to have a triple- or quadruple-barrelled cluster-feth of a nonsense name.

Bloodshriek Venge-Killer or Darkskuttle Slicer-Killer or some other such nonsense.


Blackwarprend Iconoclast Helscuttler

We really need a new random GW name generator.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 18:07:42


Post by: Davor


ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Davor wrote:
Not to be a party pooper here, but how is this news or rumours? Am I missing something? Is this a rumour for a new mini? If so, cool, would like to see more like this.


For a while now:

Art=mini, mini = art for GW. Just look at the Death Guard codex, nigh on everything in there is a representation of an actual miniature.



Thank you for the reply. I didn't know that. I have been seeing lots of art that has no minis. I never knew this is the case now. So curious now, what are those 2 big huge genestealers now will be? Guess to head over to that thread and see what people say.

I wonder when this mini will be announced or shown now.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 18:13:50


Post by: knighthaunter


Its a chaos hermit crab, he's took up residence in a old chaos knight pauldron. its a classy house for the discerning hermit crab.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 18:33:52


Post by: streetsamurai


Look bad. Hopefully the mini is a lot better than this


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 18:51:38


Post by: Cruxeh


darthryan wrote:

When you collect 5 deamon primachs at £85 each you get the option to combine them in game to become mechabaddon at the very reasonable price of £150

Well done making me laugh! Though spending a few hours watching Super Sentai may have helped there. As far as the chaos tick thing is concerned, I'm curious to see if it's actually going to be something new for chaos or not. I can always use more daemon engines for my Word Bearers.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 19:04:54


Post by: Danny76


Spoiler:
Davor wrote:
ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Davor wrote:
Not to be a party pooper here, but how is this news or rumours? Am I missing something? Is this a rumour for a new mini? If so, cool, would like to see more like this.


For a while now:

Art=mini, mini = art for GW. Just look at the Death Guard codex, nigh on everything in there is a representation of an actual miniature.



Thank you for the reply. I didn't know that. I have been seeing lots of art that has no minis. I never knew this is the case now. So curious now, what are those 2 big huge genestealers now will be? Guess to head over to that thread and see what people say.

I wonder when this mini will be announced or shown now.



There is indeed a good 2+ page discussion on it.
Whether there will be a new unit, new aberrant style etc..


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 19:13:37


Post by: Wayniac


I heard a rumor there will be Black Legion soon with a new Daemon Engine, could be this thing.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 20:44:10


Post by: NAVARRO


That would be a nice Death guard drone variant.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/12 22:29:32


Post by: Kendo


It would seem a likely Black Legion equivalent to the blight hauler. Hopefully it will be a cheap easy build as well.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 03:59:38


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Semi-related question: Has anyone got a big version of the Urban Conquest cover art, like the whole picture?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 04:32:20


Post by: Galas


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Semi-related question: Has anyone got a big version of the Urban Conquest cover art, like the whole picture?


Spoiler:


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 05:10:08


Post by: Wolf_in_Human_Shape


Enemy is half a mile away... better draw my combat blade.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 05:14:47


Post by: ProtoClone


The bloodbugger kill-o-matic 666 edgelord



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 07:18:29


Post by: Racerguy180


Whatever it is, it does look cool. I can hope that it's a new model from the Dark Mechanicum. maybe a bit bigger than a blighthauler and legged. Bring on the new daemon engines!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 07:34:54


Post by: GoatboyBeta


 Galas wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Semi-related question: Has anyone got a big version of the Urban Conquest cover art, like the whole picture?


Spoiler:



Given that even some of the scenery in the larger version is comprised of GW kits, odds look good that the "Tick" is a thing.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 07:35:06


Post by: Adeptus Doritos


Spoiler, it's the new Chaos Primaris Lieutenant with Spider mount

Available for a limited time, $45.00 USD


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 07:57:15


Post by: Racerguy180


 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
Spoiler, it's the new Chaos Primaris Lieutenant with Spider mount

Available for a limited time, $45.00 USD


I cant tell if you're joking or not. That would be badass, they need lieutenants too!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 11:39:55


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Galas wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Semi-related question: Has anyone got a big version of the Urban Conquest cover art, like the whole picture?


Spoiler:
Danke!

There's something in there that gives me an interesting terrain idea.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 14:34:33


Post by: endlesswaltz123


 Kanluwen wrote:
It reminds me of the Blood Slaughterer from FW.


I think it potentially is one, just more upright and well, with the other wonky bits in the artwork...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 15:00:50


Post by: Pacific


I love that shoulder pads have now become so big and awesome that they've grown legs and sprouted guns!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 19:03:22


Post by: Irbis




New CSM termies?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 20:34:20


Post by: Dudeface


 Irbis wrote:


New CSM termies?


Those chaos marines are in the dark vengeance style, plus the same size as those primaris.

Possibly a hq with a giant flaming mace? Sounds good.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 20:44:59


Post by: Kosake


MIght be. Since the last supplement they pushed Black Legion towards elites, Chosen and Terminators.

I'm still wondering whether the Slaughtertick will be the size of a Marine, a Demolisher or larger than a Land Raider. Judging by the artist's perspective skills it could be anything from a large scarab to a warlord titan


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 21:01:49


Post by: Tastyfish


I'd put money on it being Blight hauler sized.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 22:38:46


Post by: Manchu


Looks like a cool two handed mace!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/13 23:10:19


Post by: Kendo


One of the more reasonable rumor mongers here on the boards has suggested new chaos terminators.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 03:36:44


Post by: Galas


If Chaos Terminators receive thunder hammer equivalents what will Chaos complaint about then?!

We need to think about Chaos players!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 03:44:27


Post by: H.B.M.C.


I hope it's just a new character.

Don't really think that we need new Chaos Terminators that are for some reason even bigger than the current ones.

#NoMoreScaleCreep



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 03:55:19


Post by: Galas


Well Chaos Terminators are surely one kit that could go with a refresh.

Also for some reason Chaos terminators have always been bigger than loyalist marines and by a good margin in all forms of media, comics, official art, videogames, etc... probably to make of them the "Big bad guy". Is not like their size has any consistence.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 04:45:20


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 Galas wrote:
Well Chaos Terminators are surely one kit that could go with a refresh.
Compared to what? Regular CSM miniatures? Berzerkers? Oblits or Havocs that don't even have plastic kits?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 05:36:31


Post by: Marshal Loss


GW knocked the Death Guard Terminators out of the park, and I'd be thrilled to see new CSM Terminators. They're looking very dated now and would only look worse when put alongside the new generation of chaos marines.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 06:11:00


Post by: nagash42


 Galas wrote:
If Chaos Terminators receive thunder hammer equivalents what will Chaos complaint about then?!

We need to think about Chaos players!



Having no storm shields? see they can still complain about stuff.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 06:20:35


Post by: aracersss


didn't chaos lords have 3++ with MoT?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 06:41:03


Post by: ImAGeek


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Well Chaos Terminators are surely one kit that could go with a refresh.
Compared to what? Regular CSM miniatures? Berzerkers? Oblits or Havocs that don't even have plastic kits?


They all could do with a new kit.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 10:12:07


Post by: lord_blackfang


 ImAGeek wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Well Chaos Terminators are surely one kit that could go with a refresh.
Compared to what? Regular CSM miniatures? Berzerkers? Oblits or Havocs that don't even have plastic kits?


They all could do with a new kit.


But based on the Ork release, could be getting 6 different Terminator kits


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 11:36:23


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


But whoever should the Imperium turn too in light of the nefarious chaos tick?

Kindly do not attach non-wargaming images to your posts, off-site hosting is acceptable though - BrookM


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 13:15:03


Post by: Haighus


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Well Chaos Terminators are surely one kit that could go with a refresh.
Compared to what? Regular CSM miniatures? Berzerkers? Oblits or Havocs that don't even have plastic kits?


They all could do with a new kit.


But based on the Ork release, could be getting 6 different Terminator kits

Let me see...
Chaos Terminators
Scarab Occult Terminators
Death Guard Terminators
Sonic Terminators
Terminator Berzerkers

That would be five kits, and I sure wouldn't be complaining! We have three already, although the standard Terminators are very dated.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 15:40:09


Post by: Albino Squirrel


I wonder if there is also any new terrain previewed in that cover art, since most of it looks exactly like existing terrain kits.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 15:43:35


Post by: Wolf_in_Human_Shape


PLEASE give us a new terminator kit. Scale creep FTW.

After the 6th edition chaos kits to now (Blackstone Fortress, etc.), and primaris, all the old stuff looks awful to me. I've sold most of it off in anticipation of cool new stuff.

Sadly, I assume it's just artwork. Hard to tell these days. For a minute there, it seemed like artwork only represented models. Now that isn't always the case.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 16:51:32


Post by: ImAGeek


 Haighus wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 ImAGeek wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Well Chaos Terminators are surely one kit that could go with a refresh.
Compared to what? Regular CSM miniatures? Berzerkers? Oblits or Havocs that don't even have plastic kits?


They all could do with a new kit.


But based on the Ork release, could be getting 6 different Terminator kits

Let me see...
Chaos Terminators
Scarab Occult Terminators
Death Guard Terminators
Sonic Terminators
Terminator Berzerkers

That would be five kits, and I sure wouldn't be complaining! We have three already, although the standard Terminators are very dated.


Death Guard have 2 terminator kits, so that would be 6.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/14 17:14:51


Post by: Daedalus81


 Irbis wrote:


New CSM termies?


New termies would herald the end of everything.

The new kit would likely not have the same flexibility of the current terminators and the forums would go up in flames at that point.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 02:16:12


Post by: Wolf_in_Human_Shape


Fair point. I'd rather have fewer options* and better models, personally. Not like I ever use terminators at this point anyway, even with all their cool options.

*Assuming those few options aren't all total garbage.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 05:18:06


Post by: drbored


I'd be happy with any kits that Chaos get, tbh. Chaos Marines, Berzerkers, Terminators, Oblits, Havocs, etc are just so old and small compared to.. everything else.

I'd also be pleased with some new kits like the rumored Chaos Tick. It looks awesome and makes me eager to convert some things.

What I DON'T want is only new units. Please replace one or two of the old kits at the very least.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 05:47:27


Post by: Manchu


Yeah it would be a terrible shame if this was just another wave of spikey Power Ranger zords.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 17:53:37


Post by: Slayer-Fan123


Honestly I'd just be happy if they gave that tentacle arm some sorta rule or profile for melee. Maybe something akin to the ability Wyches have with regards to stopping a fall back?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 18:54:20


Post by: Daedalus81


 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
Fair point. I'd rather have fewer options* and better models, personally. Not like I ever use terminators at this point anyway, even with all their cool options.

*Assuming those few options aren't all total garbage.


Same - I've been waiting to update my BL with new scale stuff. I just can't bring myself to use mini-marines when it seems likely new ones are on the way.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 19:41:49


Post by: drazz


Is no one else thinking Dark Apostle?

No backpack certainly leads us to think its a terminator.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 21:07:06


Post by: Haighus


drbored wrote:
I'd be happy with any kits that Chaos get, tbh. Chaos Marines, Berzerkers, Terminators, Oblits, Havocs, etc are just so old and small compared to.. everything else.

I'd also be pleased with some new kits like the rumored Chaos Tick. It looks awesome and makes me eager to convert some things.

What I DON'T want is only new units. Please replace one or two of the old kits at the very least.


On balance, I am cautiously optimistic for a pretty major Chaos Space Marine release. We have Haarkon, the teased Dark Apostle/Sorcerer character with all the flaming skulls, and the 80 days Vigilus countdown. We also have all these unrepresented designs showing up in artwork.

However, I am most reassured by the Rumour Engine pics. There are at least 4 that heavily suggest Chaos units (the probable Sorcerer backpack vent, the Chaos-y plasma cannon, the Chaos-marked tome, and the Slanneshi-esque pata-sword), as well as the flaming brazier. That is a lot of Chaos-related titbits. EDIT: also the burning skull in the 8-pointed star-ring.

Taken all together, and I think we can expect more than just a token release.



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 21:54:49


Post by: drbored


the slaanesh-esque sword was already confirmed as a Genestealer Cult bonesword.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 22:09:48


Post by: Haighus


drbored wrote:
the slaanesh-esque sword was already confirmed as a Genestealer Cult bonesword.

Not that one- the one that looks like a Slanneshi version of an Indian pata:

Spoiler:




To me, this looks an awful lot like a part from a mortal Slanneshi infantry unit, maybe from AoS instead of 40k, but could be either (like the Tzaangors).


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 22:41:02


Post by: Irbis


 Haighus wrote:
However, I am most reassured by the Rumour Engine pics. There are at least 4 that heavily suggest Chaos units (the probable Sorcerer backpack vent, the Chaos-y plasma cannon, the Chaos-marked tome, and the Slanneshi-esque pata-sword), as well as the flaming brazier. That is a lot of Chaos-related titbits. EDIT: also the burning skull in the 8-pointed star-ring.

By 'brazier' you mean Vorne-like flamer? Because I don't think that is Chaos at all, but something from Ecclesiarchy...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 22:44:06


Post by: Cephalobeard


It looks like one of the hammers from the dark apostle in Dawn of War 2.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 22:55:35


Post by: Slayer-Fan123


 drazz wrote:
Is no one else thinking Dark Apostle?

No backpack certainly leads us to think its a terminator.

I mean, it isn't out of the question to eventually release a Dark Apostle in Terminator armor.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 22:59:54


Post by: Togusa


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Well Chaos Terminators are surely one kit that could go with a refresh.
Compared to what? Regular CSM miniatures? Berzerkers? Oblits or Havocs that don't even have plastic kits?


We know plastic CSM Tacticals are coming soon. The first two sculpts are in Blackstone.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/15 23:11:23


Post by: xttz


 Togusa wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Well Chaos Terminators are surely one kit that could go with a refresh.
Compared to what? Regular CSM miniatures? Berzerkers? Oblits or Havocs that don't even have plastic kits?


We know plastic CSM Tacticals are coming soon. The first two sculpts are in Blackstone.


Uh we don't really know that. Genestealers got new sculpts in both 2009 and 2016 boxed games, but we still haven't seen a new kit for them...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/16 01:12:00


Post by: Marshal Loss


 xttz wrote:
 Togusa wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 Galas wrote:
Well Chaos Terminators are surely one kit that could go with a refresh.
Compared to what? Regular CSM miniatures? Berzerkers? Oblits or Havocs that don't even have plastic kits?


We know plastic CSM Tacticals are coming soon. The first two sculpts are in Blackstone.


Uh we don't really know that. Genestealers got new sculpts in both 2009 and 2016 boxed games, but we still haven't seen a new kit for them...


Yes we do. It was confirmed by GW at the same event where Blackstone Fortress was first discussed that new CSM would be in BSF, as we have seen, and that a multipart kit would follow.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/16 01:22:59


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Is that in the reveals from the event?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/16 01:25:22


Post by: Moopy


Stalk Tank?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/16 01:35:39


Post by: Marshal Loss


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Is that in the reveals from the event?


Stated by GW in an event seminar.

Khalan, B&C on 30/08/18:

I just got out of the meeting. The Blackstone Fortress will have NEW CHAOS MARINES Vs Rogue traders (Think silver tower level models but 40k) and then they will be releasing them as multipart later, and the chaos release for next year involving Khorne and Slaanesh has models for both systems.


Another fellow who was at the event in a CSM FB group I'm in, same date:

Exciting times! They said there will be new CSM models in the Blackstone Fortress game, but not enough for a full squad, and that a multipart kit will follow to bring that style up to full size (10? number not clarified). Presumably next year but they wouldnt say.


There's another source I can't find off the top of my head. But all of these were before we had any confirmation from GW that new CSM were in the box - we only had this trailer to go off - and everything they were told in the seminar has panned out thus far.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/19 17:51:31


Post by: Haighus


Some further thoughts:

How likely is it that CSM get a unique terrain piece of some sort, if they do get a larger release?

The evidence is pointing towards a release larger than just a couple of characters, and all the previous releases of any note in the last year have had a unique terrain piece, both 40k and AoS. Therefore, I think it is plausible we will see one for Chaos.

However, what I think is more interesting is the possibility we will see a more substantial Chaos-themed terrain line appear. My reasoning for this is not based on much more than a hunch, but bear with me.

We have seen Killteam starter-boxes tied to a Killzone. Each one has covered a different type of terrain, with no repeats:
Killzone: Sector Imperialis (starter box)
Killzone: Sector Mechanicus (Space Marines and Orks)
Killzone: Sector Munitorum (Astra Militarum and Tyranids)
Killzone: Deathworld Forest (Death Watch and Drukhari)
Killzone: Wall of Martyrs (Tau and Necrons)
Killzone: Ryza Outpost (Genestealer Cults and Adeptus Mechanicus)- not yet released.

There are also the Killzones included in Rogue Trader, which has entirely new factions and terrain to match.

So we have covered pretty much the entire existing range of citadel 40k terrain, but we still have 6 factions left to provide starter boxes for:
Harlequins
Asuryani
Grey Knights
Heretic Astartes
Death Guard
Thousand Sons

Notably, those are all the Chaos factions, and three factions known for opposing Chaos. I think that any parings between a Chaos and non-Chaos force from those lists would work. The thing is, there is currently almost no spare terrain that could be used to create a unique Killzone for them to fight over. The Ork Mekboy workshop would not be very fitting for any of the above races, nor would the Tau Tidewall terrain. I think one of the most likely options is to use the (now old) bastion, Skyshield landing pad, and Aegis defense line kits in some kind of stronghold Killzone. I say most likely because they use to sell a Chaos bastion, so the whole Killzone could simply be packaged with the Chaos vehicle accessories sprue to provide some factional flavour. It is possible than one pairing gets repackaged with the Sector Imperialis Killzone, to provide access to that outside of the core starter. There is also the Feculent Gnarlmaw and the Citadel woods, which perhaps could be used to create some kind of corrupted forest Killzone for the Death Guard vs X box. This would still leave one pairing out, even with some stretching. Another possible option is something along the lines of a Sector Manufactorum Killzone, which again would be stretching a little. Eitherway, nothing is particularly striking.

Is this a coincidence? Perhaps, but I can't help but feel that there is going to be some kind of Chaos terrain release that could fill out a Killzone, and have two factions attached with some extra terrain. Perhaps something like a Chaos shrine Killzone, with two factions fighting over the tainted ground. Could be tied into some kind of "stop the ritual" narrative.

From the Ryza ruins set, we have seen that Killzones do not need a huge amount of terrain to work. I think that new Chaos terrain is plausible.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/19 18:10:26


Post by: MajorWesJanson


Spoiler:
 Haighus wrote:
Some further thoughts:

How likely is it that CSM get a unique terrain piece of some sort, if they do get a larger release?

The evidence is pointing towards a release larger than just a couple of characters, and all the previous releases of any note in the last year have had a unique terrain piece, both 40k and AoS. Therefore, I think it is plausible we will see one for Chaos.

However, what I think is more interesting is the possibility we will see a more substantial Chaos-themed terrain line appear. My reasoning for this is not based on much more than a hunch, but bear with me.

We have seen Killteam starter-boxes tied to a Killzone. Each one has covered a different type of terrain, with no repeats:
Killzone: Sector Imperialis (starter box)
Killzone: Sector Mechanicus (Space Marines and Orks)
Killzone: Sector Munitorum (Astra Militarum and Tyranids)
Killzone: Deathworld Forest (Death Watch and Drukhari)
Killzone: Wall of Martyrs (Tau and Necrons)
Killzone: Ryza Outpost (Genestealer Cults and Adeptus Mechanicus)- not yet released.

There are also the Killzones included in Rogue Trader, which has entirely new factions and terrain to match.

So we have covered pretty much the entire existing range of citadel 40k terrain, but we still have 6 factions left to provide starter boxes for:
Harlequins
Asuryani
Grey Knights
Heretic Astartes
Death Guard
Thousand Sons

Notably, those are all the Chaos factions, and three factions known for opposing Chaos. I think that any parings between a Chaos and non-Chaos force from those lists would work. The thing is, there is currently almost no spare terrain that could be used to create a unique Killzone for them to fight over. The Ork Mekboy workshop would not be very fitting for any of the above races, nor would the Tau Tidewall terrain. I think one of the most likely options is to use the (now old) bastion, Skyshield landing pad, and Aegis defense line kits in some kind of stronghold Killzone. I say most likely because they use to sell a Chaos bastion, so the whole Killzone could simply be packaged with the Chaos vehicle accessories sprue to provide some factional flavour. It is possible than one pairing gets repackaged with the Sector Imperialis Killzone, to provide access to that outside of the core starter. There is also the Feculent Gnarlmaw and the Citadel woods, which perhaps could be used to create some kind of corrupted forest Killzone for the Death Guard vs X box. This would still leave one pairing out, even with some stretching. Another possible option is something along the lines of a Sector Manufactorum Killzone, which again would be stretching a little. Eitherway, nothing is particularly striking.

Is this a coincidence? Perhaps, but I can't help but feel that there is going to be some kind of Chaos terrain release that could fill out a Killzone, and have two factions attached with some extra terrain. Perhaps something like a Chaos shrine Killzone, with two factions fighting over the tainted ground. Could be tied into some kind of "stop the ritual" narrative.

From the Ryza ruins set, we have seen that Killzones do not need a huge amount of terrain to work. I think that new Chaos terrain is plausible.


It doesn't block LOS at all, but I could see Thousand Sons and Harlequins getting the Eldar Webway gate packaged in for teleporting shenanigans. More generic Eldar terrain would be a potential for Craftworlds and potentially later Emperor's Children. Combine those and you can have a battlezone craftworld.

Generic Chaos I could see getting some sort of defiled shrine terrain piece, like the old Eye of Terror polystone one. Grey Knights could use the same piece for a kill team.
That leaves out Death Guard, but they can just have their Gnarlmaw tree and make it a single release or a third box for another release.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/19 18:41:14


Post by: Haighus


More Aeldari terrain certainly seems plausible! If it came with a larger Aeldari release to flesh out/replace finecast for one of the factions that would be awesome.

I was thinking Harlequins vs Thousand Sons would be the most classic match-up of the remaining 6. Perhaps the others could be Asuryani vs Heretic Astartes and Grey Knights vs Death Guard?

At some point, I fully expect to see Emperor's Children and World Eaters get their own faction rules, which would conveniently fit into their own battle too


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/19 18:43:32


Post by: Geifer


 Haighus wrote:
There is also the Feculent Gnarlmaw and the Citadel woods, which perhaps could be used to create some kind of corrupted forest Killzone for the Death Guard vs X box.


Make that a Death Guard versus Craftworlders pairing (defending a Maiden world) and GW couldn't just add the Webway Gate, but also bring back the out of production Rhino in blasted forest. You know, trees because that's the theme and a Rhino because Chaos uses them.

Would be easy to fill a Killzone box with, and use the more generic Forest and Gnarlmaw that are useful in larger numbers for the Kill Team boxes.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/19 19:22:50


Post by: drbored


So far, only the Deathworld terrain has any sort of 'xenos' or non-imperium terrain. It'd be great to get more xenos terrain and something for chaos, especially if it's as modular and customizable as the current terrain kits out there.

The way I see it, a lot is going to happen after the Vigilus part 2 release. Between now and then I expect them to release Genestealer Cults and start hyping up Black Legion stuff.

Then we'll hit Vigilus 2 and I imagine the proverbial floodgates are going to open when it comes to Chaos stuff. Of course, I could be completely wrong and we'll have a repeat of Orktober, but it definitely feels like they're trying to hype this up for Chaos. We know the Death Guard is on Vigilus, as well as the Asuryani, so I don't know if we'll get a Killzone related to that or not. I could certainly see it.

Another thing to consider is that Grey Knights and Harlequins can both be starter sets with a commander in a single box, since the main troop box you would get for them can create their commanders. My hope is that we get more treatment like Admech and GSC got and get some brand new units, but I think that would be too much to hope for.

But yeah, long story short, we just have to be patient while GW hypes us up and through Vigilus part 2.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/19 19:40:35


Post by: Haighus


drbored wrote:
So far, only the Deathworld terrain has any sort of 'xenos' or non-imperium terrain. It'd be great to get more xenos terrain and something for chaos, especially if it's as modular and customizable as the current terrain kits out there.

The way I see it, a lot is going to happen after the Vigilus part 2 release. Between now and then I expect them to release Genestealer Cults and start hyping up Black Legion stuff.

Then we'll hit Vigilus 2 and I imagine the proverbial floodgates are going to open when it comes to Chaos stuff. Of course, I could be completely wrong and we'll have a repeat of Orktober, but it definitely feels like they're trying to hype this up for Chaos. We know the Death Guard is on Vigilus, as well as the Asuryani, so I don't know if we'll get a Killzone related to that or not. I could certainly see it.

Another thing to consider is that Grey Knights and Harlequins can both be starter sets with a commander in a single box, since the main troop box you would get for them can create their commanders. My hope is that we get more treatment like Admech and GSC got and get some brand new units, but I think that would be too much to hope for.

But yeah, long story short, we just have to be patient while GW hypes us up and through Vigilus part 2.

There is also the Ork junkyard-themed terrain, and the Tau Tidewall stuff, so there is more xeos terrain than just the Aeldari stuff. However, they have somewhat missed the boat to release these alongside their most-suited factions, so we may have to wait awhile to see Killzones for either, if at all. The Ork debris piles and Mekboy workshop seem especially suited to becoming a Killzone.

Overall though, I agree with your post.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Geifer wrote:
 Haighus wrote:
There is also the Feculent Gnarlmaw and the Citadel woods, which perhaps could be used to create some kind of corrupted forest Killzone for the Death Guard vs X box.


Make that a Death Guard versus Craftworlders pairing (defending a Maiden world) and GW couldn't just add the Webway Gate, but also bring back the out of production Rhino in blasted forest. You know, trees because that's the theme and a Rhino because Chaos uses them.

Would be easy to fill a Killzone box with, and use the more generic Forest and Gnarlmaw that are useful in larger numbers for the Kill Team boxes.

Having really wanted to get hold of that destroyed Rhino terrain piece since around the time it went OOP, I'd be all over that!

I do find it odd that GW does not sell any kind of plastic craters set for the first time since I started gaming. I wonder why they discontinued the Quake craters? Those still appear in a lot of official photographs, and are fairly recent, but they had a really short sales run.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/19 23:11:15


Post by: Geifer


 Haighus wrote:
 Geifer wrote:
 Haighus wrote:
There is also the Feculent Gnarlmaw and the Citadel woods, which perhaps could be used to create some kind of corrupted forest Killzone for the Death Guard vs X box.


Make that a Death Guard versus Craftworlders pairing (defending a Maiden world) and GW couldn't just add the Webway Gate, but also bring back the out of production Rhino in blasted forest. You know, trees because that's the theme and a Rhino because Chaos uses them.

Would be easy to fill a Killzone box with, and use the more generic Forest and Gnarlmaw that are useful in larger numbers for the Kill Team boxes.

Having really wanted to get hold of that destroyed Rhino terrain piece since around the time it went OOP, I'd be all over that!

I do find it odd that GW does not sell any kind of plastic craters set for the first time since I started gaming. I wonder why they discontinued the Quake craters? Those still appear in a lot of official photographs, and are fairly recent, but they had a really short sales run.


Those craters are gone, huh? Completely passed me by. Maybe they weren't selling? I seem to remember them being quite expensive for what you were getting.

I liked the Rhino terrain and considered buying it on more than one occasion. Never got around to it, though, so I wouldn't mind if it made a comeback myself.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/19 23:45:58


Post by: Haighus


Likewise on the Battlescape, I had just got round to finally buying it when it went OOP, and I missed it by a whisker!

Yeah, the craters have been gone for at least a year or so!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/20 09:14:20


Post by: Jadenim


I think it’s because you no longer have to place a crater when you blow up a vehicle, so not needed as a gaming accessory.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/20 12:00:57


Post by: Legiocustodes


 Jadenim wrote:
I think it’s because you no longer have to place a crater when you blow up a vehicle, so not needed as a gaming accessory.


That being said I still like to!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/20 18:54:49


Post by: Jadenim


Likewise!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/21 00:17:38


Post by: Racerguy180


ditto


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/21 02:15:43


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Those craters they did were great. Shame they don't sell 'em any more.

Then again, if they did sell them they'd've repackaged them as a "Deathfield Shatterscape" or some other nonsense name and they'd have really unnecessary rules.



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/24 05:38:43


Post by: Dravenguild


Interesting, maybe it's something between a defiler and dreadnought


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/24 07:01:14


Post by: drbored


I dunno. I played with those craters. They were flimsy, the border edge of them was kind of crappy, and a lot of times they were warped. My local hobby store did a lot of work to make them good, mainly by trimming the border, putting a piece of cork board on them to make them flat and substantial enough to not be blown away by the fan we had to have in the corner (thanks, Florida).

I think it's more that they were just old rather than not selling. GW can discontinue terrain a lot more quietly than any other models since people don't really *need* them for their army.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/01/24 07:25:59


Post by: Dudeface


drbored wrote:
I dunno. I played with those craters. They were flimsy, the border edge of them was kind of crappy, and a lot of times they were warped. My local hobby store did a lot of work to make them good, mainly by trimming the border, putting a piece of cork board on them to make them flat and substantial enough to not be blown away by the fan we had to have in the corner (thanks, Florida).

I think it's more that they were just old rather than not selling. GW can discontinue terrain a lot more quietly than any other models since people don't really *need* them for their army.


It sounds like you mean the vacuum formed moonscape craters more than the quake cannon ones which were full cast plastic.

Sign me up for a chaos tick, I feel like Abaddon will be the capstone of a chaos release if it comes, but of a standard marine kit is in the mix, that'll mean far more to the community.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/01 11:40:26


Post by: aracersss


... so going by dates and recent batch of FW pre-orders, only thing that remains is carrion empire.
Feb
2nd gsc w1
9th gsc w2
16th carrion empire?
23rd BL anniversary (new commissar)
Mar
2nd ?
9th ... possibly start vigilus 2?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/01 11:56:20


Post by: zamerion


Do we know what time is the open vegas seminar today?

OOPPPS is next week.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/02 19:22:25


Post by: aracersss


zamerion wrote:
Do we know what time is the open vegas seminar today?

OOPPPS is next week.


if anything is teased ... it will be tomorrow or not


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 19:46:29


Post by: BrookM


From Insta:



Could be one of those tick things in the background there, in the middle. Though it also looks like new Obliterators are a-coming if the big blokes on either side of Kul are of any indication.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 19:48:37


Post by: lord_blackfang


I'm not saying it's Chaos Primaris, but it's Chaos Primaris.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 19:51:43


Post by: BlaxicanX


CHAOS. PRIMARIS.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 19:54:46


Post by: Kanluwen


I'm going with Possessed.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 19:57:05


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Hopefully new Posessed. They’ve never quite got those models right.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 20:00:58


Post by: warl0rdb0b


Possessed as large as Primaris would be fine, they'd at least be in line with the 30k equivalents then.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 20:32:28


Post by: JSG


Master of possession.

Well, it's possessed then.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 21:07:21


Post by: Daedalus81


Whatever they are...I want all of it.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 21:16:30


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm not saying it's Chaos Primaris, but it's Chaos Primaris.
Yeah no kidding.

So bye bye regular Marines, and bye bye regular Chaos Marines.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 21:24:20


Post by: GoatboyBeta


The Black Legion leaning into the possession angle would fit with there old fluff. And being generally jacked up on warp stuff is a decent justification for a scale adjustment.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 21:39:37


Post by: Kirasu


I'm not convinced they could handle making Possessed ever worth taking, as 3 editions of rules have been totally unplayable.

Good models sell but good models with great rules sell even more.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 21:40:58


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Kirasu wrote:
I'm not convinced they could handle making Possessed ever worth taking, as 3 editions of rules have been totally unplayable.

Good models sell but good models with great rules sell even more.


They're not gonna be Possessed as you know it, more like possession powered Big Marines.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 21:42:06


Post by: Kirasu


 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Kirasu wrote:
I'm not convinced they could handle making Possessed ever worth taking, as 3 editions of rules have been totally unplayable.

Good models sell but good models with great rules sell even more.


They're not gonna be Possessed as you know it, more like possession powered Big Marines.


So just as bad as current possessed but with awful Cawl level fluff to justify the slightly better (but doesnt matter in current edition of 40k: Mortal Wounds) stats?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 21:47:20


Post by: Latro_


didnt the black legion fluff a couple of editions back put a strong emphasis on possession


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 21:55:04


Post by: Rinkydink


I'm looking forward to the 14 or so Chaos Primaris 'Dark Possessors', or whatever the lieutenant equivalent is.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 22:10:42


Post by: aracersss


NEW OLBITERATORS F YEAH!


and chaos tick again spotted too


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 22:17:11


Post by: dan2026


It would be nice if the new Possessed contained options for god specific mutations. Bird heads for Tzeentch, rotten limbs for Nurgle, etc.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 22:34:04


Post by: BrookM


I worry that it'll be a lot of spikes and horns.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 22:35:00


Post by: Danny76


If it is even Obliterators in the art, I don’t think we’d see new models anyways for them necessarily.
But I think it is more likely possessed with how the tease is headed.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 22:38:46


Post by: lord_blackfang


 Kirasu wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
 Kirasu wrote:
I'm not convinced they could handle making Possessed ever worth taking, as 3 editions of rules have been totally unplayable.

Good models sell but good models with great rules sell even more.


They're not gonna be Possessed as you know it, more like possession powered Big Marines.


So just as bad as current possessed but with awful Cawl level fluff to justify the slightly better (but doesnt matter in current edition of 40k: Mortal Wounds) stats?


Okay, well, yes, if you wanna put it that way.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 23:03:27


Post by: Haighus


Ooh, exciting times. I really hope CSM finally get the big clear-up release they deserve, rejuvenate some of those horrible ancient kits and spruce up the line.

My Chaos Chosen are lonely

Of course, we will probably get some random new units and a token replacement, but fingers crossed anyway...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 23:07:52


Post by: NinthMusketeer


I would skwee over new Obliterators. I'm actually holding off on converting some out of hope. An obliterator character to lead my obliterators would be even better. Or even just an artifact to make a chaos lord one.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 23:16:38


Post by: Haighus


 NinthMusketeer wrote:
I would skwee over new Obliterators. I'm actually holding off on converting some out of hope. An obliterator character to lead my obliterators would be even better. Or even just an artifact to make a chaos lord one.

I've always wanted to like Obliterators- the fluff is cool, and the rules are neat, and they are not just spiky Space Marines. But the models, oh the models... those have always put me off.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 23:27:14


Post by: Hive City Dweller


Let's increase brightness and see what pops:



Is that a blue intercessor pauldron?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 23:29:57


Post by: Haighus


The "tick" has a skull on the left-hand side (across from the character's staff) which looks an awful lot like one of the Rumour Engine pics from a few months ago. The one with a flaming skull within a spiked halo.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 23:36:02


Post by: Danny76


The one on the left looks like a hellbrute a bit right?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/06 23:49:39


Post by: Mattlov


That "Chaos Tick" just looks like a Blood Slaughterer from Forge World...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 00:15:02


Post by: Formosa


until they give possessed the same rules as gal vorbak, they will always be trash lol, so this new fella if he buffs them, well its like haarkom buffing raptors, a polished turd is still a turd.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 02:56:21


Post by: Daedalus81


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm not saying it's Chaos Primaris, but it's Chaos Primaris.
Yeah no kidding.

So bye bye regular Marines, and bye bye regular Chaos Marines.


They've already made new big heretics without making them Primaris. I doubt "mini" heretics are going anyway.


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 Formosa wrote:
until they give possessed the same rules as gal vorbak, they will always be trash lol, so this new fella if he buffs them, well its like haarkom buffing raptors, a polished turd is still a turd.


I don't really think there's anything wrong with possessed. It's just no one wants to commit to melee in that way and they'd rather pick up berzerkers.


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 Mattlov wrote:
That "Chaos Tick" just looks like a Blood Slaughterer from Forge World...


Similar, but seems to have some distinct differences.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 05:22:14


Post by: drbored


I love how everyone was arguing

"It's a sorcerer!"
"No, it's a dark apostle!"

And GW is like

"Jokes on all of you, IT'S NONE OF THOSE"


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 08:02:29


Post by: Slayer-Fan123


 Formosa wrote:
until they give possessed the same rules as gal vorbak, they will always be trash lol, so this new fella if he buffs them, well its like haarkom buffing raptors, a polished turd is still a turd.

They're not missing a lot of the rules Gal Vorbak have now though?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 08:31:47


Post by: PiñaColada


Pumped that CSM get some new stuff, even though I don't collect them. If GW refreshes this line then we don't don't have that many more that need a big refresh to be at an acceptable standard IMO.

Btw, does the chaos tick even have any ranged weapons? I think it has some sort of blade in the front (?) but can't be sure if I make out any armaments on the sides.. The legs look pretty similar to a dunecrawler though so I hope this means we get some dark mechanicum stuff woven into the release.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 08:34:16


Post by: H.B.M.C.


We don't even know if the Chaos Tick exists (although given no model = no rule & no artwork it's a good bet), so it's too early to speculate what it actually is.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 08:40:08


Post by: blood reaper


 Daedalus81 wrote:

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 Formosa wrote:
until they give possessed the same rules as gal vorbak, they will always be trash lol, so this new fella if he buffs them, well its like haarkom buffing raptors, a polished turd is still a turd.


I don't really think there's anything wrong with possessed. It's just no one wants to commit to melee in that way and they'd rather pick up berzerkers.


They literally underperform compared to every other option in an already crowded elites slot.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 09:27:37


Post by: zamerion


Do we know what time is the open vegas seminar today?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 09:39:32


Post by: lord_blackfang


zamerion wrote:
Do we know what time is the open vegas seminar today?


Vegas is at GMT-8

We should see the stuff somewhere between dinner time and bedtime.


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Oh dear, the seminar is at 8 in the evening, so about 5 AM Friday for us.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 10:00:35


Post by: Wolf_in_Human_Shape


When did GW say he isn't a dark apostle or sorcerer?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 11:33:22


Post by: aracersss


 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
When did GW say he isn't a dark apostle or sorcerer?


when they posted the new image on fb


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 12:09:38


Post by: Messiah


 aracersss wrote:
 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
When did GW say he isn't a dark apostle or sorcerer?


when they posted the new image on fb


Oh, cool! I didn't catch that. Can you link their quote saying that the master of the possessed is not a sorceror or an apostle? Thanks!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 12:33:20


Post by: aracersss


after you post where it says it's a sorcerer or an apostle


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 14:52:21


Post by: Lorek


 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
When did GW say he isn't a dark apostle or sorcerer?


To be clear, this was asked in the comments, and the reply was "It says it's a Master of Possession", which isn't really a denial or affirmation. Not firm, anyway. They're being a bit cagey until the official announcement (which may happen tonight at LVO).


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 15:05:35


Post by: Formosa


Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
 Formosa wrote:
until they give possessed the same rules as gal vorbak, they will always be trash lol, so this new fella if he buffs them, well its like haarkom buffing raptors, a polished turd is still a turd.

They're not missing a lot of the rules Gal Vorbak have now though?


They are missing

options like special weapons, power weapons etc.
an extra wound since GV have two, they should have 3 for 40k, sarge would have 4
rending equiv
WS 2+
Str5
T5
Rage Equiv
native deep strike
stubborn equiv

Gal Vorbak are what possessed should be rather than the unreliable trash unit we have now that is overshadowed by every other choice.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 15:13:50


Post by: Ghaz


 Lorek wrote:
 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:
When did GW say he isn't a dark apostle or sorcerer?


To be clear, this was asked in the comments, and the reply was "It says it's a Master of Possession", which isn't really a denial or affirmation. Not firm, anyway. They're being a bit cagey until the official announcement (which may happen tonight at LVO).

Speaking of the LVO it looks like we'll get some info from the seminar around 6 pm Pacific...

Spoiler:


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 15:20:28


Post by: Kanluwen


I think the seminar is at 6pm Las Vegas time, with the actual Community article going up at 9pm Eastern.

Not 100% sure though.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 15:30:28


Post by: Ghaz


 Kanluwen wrote:
I think the seminar is at 6pm Las Vegas time, with the actual Community article going up at 9pm Eastern.

Not 100% sure though.

My bad. I had put my local time (Eastern) in the post. The Facebook post went up about an hour and a half ago.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 15:30:41


Post by: Haighus


How far off the 80 days Vigilus deadline are we? Is that in just over a week?

What are we expecting at the LVO?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 15:37:09


Post by: Redemption


 Haighus wrote:
How far off the 80 days Vigilus deadline are we? Is that in just over a week?

What are we expecting at the LVO?


The 80 days video was posted on December 15th, so that will be on the 5th of March. Which is on a Tuesday, which seems weird considering they release in weekend generally.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 15:39:16


Post by: Ghaz


 Haighus wrote:
How far off the 80 days Vigilus deadline are we? Is that in just over a week?

What are we expecting at the LVO?

26 Days Remain...

Spoiler:
Posted January 24th on Facebook:



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 16:18:41


Post by: Haighus


Aaagh, 26 days still? Dayum, I am impatient!

Thanks for the responses.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 16:48:38


Post by: Geifer


 Redemption wrote:
 Haighus wrote:
How far off the 80 days Vigilus deadline are we? Is that in just over a week?

What are we expecting at the LVO?


The 80 days video was posted on December 15th, so that will be on the 5th of March. Which is on a Tuesday, which seems weird considering they release in weekend generally.


Until we get more info I'll just assume GW will use the rest of the week for teasers of what to expect for the following Sunday announcement.

For instance, Tuesday we get a picture with sad looking Haarken and a "time's up" caption, Wednesday an animation in which a famous topknot stirs, and so forth.

I don't think now that GW does their animated teasers regularly and Vigilus 2 is kind of a big release, they'll just drop a simgle one along with the "next week on pre-order" announcement.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 21:08:00


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


 Hive City Dweller wrote:
Let's increase brightness and see what pops:





I like how it looks like its from a metal album cover. You can play powerwolf over that.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/07 22:01:03


Post by: Messiah


 aracersss wrote:
after you post where it says it's a sorcerer or an apostle


So they didn’t? That’s a disappointment..


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 00:14:56


Post by: Wolf_in_Human_Shape


Yeah, seems more like an evasive answer. Not like it really matters, one way or another.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 00:50:18


Post by: Kirasu


I can't believe they picked a name like "Hyasphus" who in the world was in charge of that?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 00:55:21


Post by: parakuribo


Hyaspus_Kul wrote:True power cannot be earned without sacrifice, without pain. And you will know such pain as you have never experienced, brother, that I promise you. I will burn the weakness from your soul, and pour the molten potentiality of the warp into the hollow chambers that remain. Embrace the agony, and you will know a most glorious [b][color=red]transcendence.


1.We're getting Primaris marines. If that's the case, I thought Fabius would've find a way.

2.We're gonna see 9th edition. This is a preview.

3. We get an updated codex with new rules for other bands(pipe dream).

4.We're getting a Black Legion HQ that only affects Possessed and Spawn, and a new way to play 40K.

Hopefully the next hour can tell....



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 00:55:26


Post by: crumby_cataphract


 Kirasu wrote:
I can't believe they picked a name like "Hyasphus" who in the world was in charge of that?


I don't understand. What's wrong with that name?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 01:08:59


Post by: Mothman


I think it would make sense to drop new chaos cultist model reveal today + maybe chaos guardsmen full kit. If its tied to vigilus these would be the first waves rising up before the Black legion fully arrives.

On chaos primaris marines, I think this depends on what they do with fabius' character. In the novels he is still very torn about helping to rebuild the legions (despite trazyn trading him a huge stock of EC geneseed in return for his perfect mint condition uncorrupted fulgrim clone) He still seems very set on focusing on his new men instead of messing with more marines. I think fabius actually would work well as a kill team release with 1-2 of his apothocary friends and his gland hounds (would also be the time they make the model for the female "space marine" who hangs out with him. Although he seems against helping out chaos legions anymore the eldar in books do seem to be pushing him towards rebuilding the emperors children as part of some grand story of the harlequins.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:05:09


Post by: Kanluwen




They posted the full image. It's listed as "Shadowspear".


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:08:45


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Well... that's certainly new.

 parakuribo wrote:
4.We're getting a Black Legion HQ that only affects Possessed and Spawn, and a new way to play 40K.
Then, after the FAQ, it will only affect Black Legion Possessed/Spawn, and then after another FAQ, back to affecting anyone's Possessed/Spawn.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:09:16


Post by: crumby_cataphract


I wish all the Rievers had helmets like that fellow in the front, there.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:10:51


Post by: Kanluwen


So NOBODY is going to call out Primaris-ized Telion?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:13:33


Post by: stormboy


I see a rumor engine claw!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:14:35


Post by: H.B.M.C.


GW's newsletter went out perhaps a little early today. Contains a link to the LVO stuff (nothing there yet) and that new picture, but has this as the blurb:

New Chaos Space Marines. Sisters of Battle. The next chapter in the Soul Wars. And much, much more.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:16:51


Post by: Daedalus81


SQUEEEEEE


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:17:28


Post by: Carnikang


Looks like a new helbrute in the back there. And that Marine with the habit and sword looks like a psyker... Namely because if his talisman.

Is that really Telion?
Chainaxe welding chaos Marine in the middle by the helbrute ..

Oh, and the sweet looking possessed in the foreground.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:17:40


Post by: Gryphonne


Sp00der tank?? New oblit/helbrute/whatever? New possessed.. hype increasing!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:19:19


Post by: Mothman




based on thumbnail Im guessing
-chaos stuff
-barbarian faction for Aos (likely soul wars becomes the "lets free slaanesh" arc)
-elf warband


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:21:08


Post by: dsraider1


It looks like Telion. Just what everyone wanted, more unique Ultramarine characters. Gag.

The rest looks awesome though.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:24:04


Post by: Leggy


 Carnikang wrote:
Looks like a new helbrute in the back there. And that Marine with the habit and sword looks like a psyker... Namely because if his talisman.

Is that really Telion?
Chainaxe welding chaos Marine in the middle by the helbrute ..

Oh, and the sweet looking possessed in the foreground.


I reckon the Hellbrute is actually an obliterator (this time in plastic).
New possessed at the front. Hints at redesigned normal can too.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:25:04


Post by: Eldenfirefly


I wouldn't mind more CSM characters, as long as they are usable. How often do we see Lucious, Fabius bile, etc being used. Probably only Abaddon sees use.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:25:49


Post by: Carnikang


Leggy wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:
Looks like a new helbrute in the back there. And that Marine with the habit and sword looks like a psyker... Namely because if his talisman.

Is that really Telion?
Chainaxe welding chaos Marine in the middle by the helbrute ..

Oh, and the sweet looking possessed in the foreground.


I reckon the Hellbrute is actually an obliterator (this time in plastic).
New possessed at the front. Hints at redesigned normal can too.


I dunno, the helbrute/oblit thing has the "tiny head in a fanged maw" and a big honkin fist. The top mounted "minigun" could mean a redesign or plastic oblits, and they just started to look more like the helbrutes.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:30:51


Post by: Irbis


Dude in the front looks uncannily like GSC Chaos Marine. Did armless recruited some in hopes their genestock can repair his condition?

 Carnikang wrote:
Looks like a new helbrute in the back there. And that Marine with the habit and sword looks like a psyker... Namely because if his talisman.

And not, because of you know, his psychic hood?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:31:47


Post by: stinkyjunk


I thought we would be able to watch the livestream by now. Any ideas what is going on? And where?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:32:25


Post by: Kanluwen


stinkyjunk wrote:
I thought we would be able to watch the livestream by now. Any ideas what is going on? And where?

No, we don't get a livestream. GW themselves will put up the slides/photos from the reveal after it finishes.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:33:14


Post by: stinkyjunk


Oh well. Time to hurry up and wait. Thanks!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:34:10


Post by: Carnikang


 Irbis wrote:
Dude in the front looks uncannily like GSC Chaos Marine. Did armless recruited some in hopes their genestock can repair his condition?

 Carnikang wrote:
Looks like a new helbrute in the back there. And that Marine with the habit and sword looks like a psyker... Namely because if his talisman.

And not, because of you know, his psychic hood?


I honestly didn't see it. Too much blue in that picture for my taste. Needs some yellow Fists or BLack Templars.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:37:00


Post by: Kanluwen


stinkyjunk wrote:
Oh well. Time to hurry up and wait. Thanks!

Just keep following here for it.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:37:45


Post by: Irbis


Also, primaris dude in front has not only new, very stormtrooper-y helmet, his backpack has comm equipment too. Looks like DG and GSC flood of characters really sells. Reiver is weird, too, not only new helmet without speakers, but the grenades were replaced by some sort of electronic equipment. Stealth squad as opposed to screechy boys?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:47:03


Post by: theharrower


We're at least getting Chaos Space Marines and Sisters of Battle. It's in the title tag for the page. I'd imagine Dark Oath for AoS, last 2 Warbands for Nightvault, and probably a tease for Slaanesh at the end. Also, sprinkle in Blood Bowl, Necormunda, etc.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:50:08


Post by: Asherian Command



new chaos termie?

Too small to be a dreadnought or hellbrute.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:51:34


Post by: Chaplain Pallantide


New obliterators?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:53:01


Post by: GaroRobe


The Librarian looks pretty weird. He's got gloves and what looks like the tunic and belt from the Rumor Engine on. I know they usually have robes, but a tunic is new.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:53:22


Post by: Whumbachumba


 Asherian Command wrote:

new chaos termie?

Too small to be a dreadnought or hellbrute.


I was looking at around the head and it reminds me of the contemptor chassis.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:54:27


Post by: Dr_Keenbean


The primaris in the pic all have the same armor as reivers and grav chutes, but stalker bolt rifles and different helmets/comms backpacks. Even the lib has that style of MkX.

Primaris scouts? Gimme.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:55:21


Post by: cole1114


All the primaris in the photo have reiver shoulderpads including the captain(?) and librarian, and all of them have bolt rifles instead of bolt carbines. As well as one of them having a knife and bolt rifle. If that's actually a combo for a squad as a whole... mmm...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:56:14


Post by: theharrower


You have a problem when you download an extension to have it auto refresh a page after 15 seconds.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:56:40


Post by: Asherian Command


 Whumbachumba wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:

new chaos termie?

Too small to be a dreadnought or hellbrute.


I was looking at around the head and it reminds me of the contemptor chassis.


Its too small to be a contemptor could be a possessed / obilterator.

Or its one of the Infamous Bringers of Despair


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 02:56:46


Post by: Kanluwen


 Dr_Keenbean wrote:
The primaris in the pic all have the same armor as reivers and grav chutes, but stalker bolt rifles and different helmets/comms backpacks. Even the lib has that style of MkX.

Primaris scouts? Gimme.


Fun fact, it looks like the "Intercessors" on the front of Urban Conquest...weren't.
Spoiler:



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 cole1114 wrote:
All the primaris in the photo have reiver shoulderpads including the captain(?) and librarian, and all of them have bolt rifles instead of bolt carbines. As well as one of them having a knife and bolt rifle. If that's actually a combo for a squad as a whole... mmm...

The "Captain" seems to be Telion, Primaris'd.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:05:45


Post by: Irbis


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Dr_Keenbean wrote:
The primaris in the pic all have the same armor as reivers and grav chutes, but stalker bolt rifles and different helmets/comms backpacks. Even the lib has that style of MkX.

Primaris scouts? Gimme.

Fun fact, it looks like the "Intercessors" on the front of Urban Conquest...weren't.
Spoiler:

These are completely normal, bog standard bolt carbine Reivers in literally every single detail. "Intercessors"? What?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:17:55


Post by: cole1114


 Irbis wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
 Dr_Keenbean wrote:
The primaris in the pic all have the same armor as reivers and grav chutes, but stalker bolt rifles and different helmets/comms backpacks. Even the lib has that style of MkX.

Primaris scouts? Gimme.

Fun fact, it looks like the "Intercessors" on the front of Urban Conquest...weren't.
Spoiler:

These are completely normal, bog standard bolt carbine Reivers in literally every single detail. "Intercessors"? What?


Those are clearly not bolt carbines tho. They're bolt rifles. Carbines have the fore-grip and no scope.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:24:11


Post by: Carnikang


Did anyone see that funny looking gun the Marine s using behind the sword of the psyker?

Looks like a multibarrel bolter of some sort.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:24:24


Post by: stormboy


I wonder if this will end up being a boxed set with new Primaris and black Legion, like the Naeve box from AoS?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:25:48


Post by: nflagey


stormboy wrote:
I wonder if this will end up being a boxed set with new Primaris and black Legion, like the Naeve box from AoS?


well, Shadowspear definitely sounds like the name GW would give to a boxed set ...


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These are all the tags for the article:



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:30:51


Post by: Dulahan


Interesting, I just went back to the site and did the Ctrl+u again... and Abbs is no longer one of the tags.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:32:43


Post by: Grimgold


 Asherian Command wrote:
 Whumbachumba wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:

new chaos termie?

Too small to be a dreadnought or hellbrute.


I was looking at around the head and it reminds me of the contemptor chassis.


Its too small to be a contemptor could be a possessed / obilterator.

Or its one of the Infamous Bringers of Despair


With the fist, the maw, and the fleshy bits it looks too close to a hellbrute, I don't think they would make a model look that derivative. Might be a new hellbrute kit, because the current one is how old now? Or it might be a named hellbrute character, which would be interesting for chaos to finally get a character dread.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:32:56


Post by: GaroRobe


stormboy wrote:
I wonder if this will end up being a boxed set with new Primaris and black Legion, like the Naeve box from AoS?

That's what I'm thinking. Shadowspear sounds like a name for a boxset. Could it be a new starter set? I don't think they release boxsets with 100% new models. Usually it's two new HQs, or even a new unit, like Abberants in Tooth and Claw. (Fang and Claw?)

The artwork looks like it would be Telion, a Librarian, and Reivers against The Master of Possession, Possessed, CSM, plus the Tick and Obliterator thing. Definitely feels like the contents of a Starter set, compared to a boxset.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:32:58


Post by: nflagey


still there for me ...

edit: and after a couple of refresh, it's gone for me too ... GW is watching us!!!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:36:29


Post by: Grimgold


sylvaneth warband for Warhammer underworlds, nice. They usually release them in twos, so maybe we get the duradin warband as well?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:39:31


Post by: Danny76


Sylvaneth and Kharadon both get battletomes and Underworlds warbands


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:39:55


Post by: BrotherGecko


Man if Primaris get scouts that would pretty much be the final nail in the micromarine coffin. So I hope it is true lol.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:40:20


Post by: axisofentropy


I missed the first part but I'm here. Some box set I missed, new primaris vs chaos. Abaddon in 26 days.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:41:40


Post by: Grimgold


 BrotherGecko wrote:
Man if Primaris get scouts that would pretty much be the final nail in the micromarine coffin. So I hope it is true lol.


It also looks like a new type of mark x gravis armor, wielding some kind of assault cannon like weapon. It has the gravis shoulder pads and bulk but the chest and head are different.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:42:34


Post by: Asherian Command


 Grimgold wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Man if Primaris get scouts that would pretty much be the final nail in the micromarine coffin. So I hope it is true lol.


It also looks like a new type of mark x gravis armor, wielding some kind of assault cannon like weapon. It has the gravis shoulder pads and bulk but the chest and head are different.


where are you there?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:42:48


Post by: Saturmorn Carvilli




Chaos Genestealers!



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:43:14


Post by: Starfarer


 Grimgold wrote:
sylvaneth warband for Warhammer underworlds, nice. They usually release them in twos, so maybe we get the duradin warband as well?


Well Blades of Khorne is in those tags, plus there is a Bloodletter pictured in the background banner on the LVO teaser from GW, so I would guess they have a faction coming for Shadespire along with Sylvaneth.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:43:51


Post by: Grimgold


 Asherian Command wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Man if Primaris get scouts that would pretty much be the final nail in the micromarine coffin. So I hope it is true lol.


It also looks like a new type of mark x gravis armor, wielding some kind of assault cannon like weapon. It has the gravis shoulder pads and bulk but the chest and head are different.


where are you there?


Stolen shamelessly from some guy on facebook, look behind the sword:



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:47:30


Post by: cole1114


 Grimgold wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Man if Primaris get scouts that would pretty much be the final nail in the micromarine coffin. So I hope it is true lol.


It also looks like a new type of mark x gravis armor, wielding some kind of assault cannon like weapon. It has the gravis shoulder pads and bulk but the chest and head are different.


where are you there?


Stolen shamelessly from some guy on facebook, look behind the sword:

Spoiler:


It looks to be exactly the same as all the other stalker bolt rifles in the drawing honestly.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:50:45


Post by: axisofentropy


Box set called shadow spear. Includes new chaos marines and obliterators


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:51:59


Post by: Grimgold


 cole1114 wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
 Grimgold wrote:
 BrotherGecko wrote:
Man if Primaris get scouts that would pretty much be the final nail in the micromarine coffin. So I hope it is true lol.


It also looks like a new type of mark x gravis armor, wielding some kind of assault cannon like weapon. It has the gravis shoulder pads and bulk but the chest and head are different.


where are you there?


Stolen shamelessly from some guy on facebook, look behind the sword:

Spoiler:


It looks to be exactly the same as all the other stalker bolt rifles in the drawing honestly.


count the barrels, looks like there are six.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:53:29


Post by: cole1114


 Grimgold wrote:
count the barrels, looks like there are six.


Looks like 1 to me. It's just so far in the background it looks weird.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:55:51


Post by: Alexonian


omg the tick is an actual model haha


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 03:56:15


Post by: Grimgold


page is updated, all new sculpts in shadowspear, and they preview the new abaddon model at the bottom.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:00:17


Post by: BrotherGecko


My god, the obliterator is beautiful.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:01:54


Post by: dienekes96


The tick is real, I repeat...the tick is real. I like it a lot.

Nice joke about the reveal. I smiled, although it was an obvious joke on the way into to]he video.

The Tick is real.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:02:20


Post by: Drudge Dreadnought


So that's 5 new CSM sculpts counting Blackstone fortress? Here's to hoping that'll mean a full new multi-part box for them soon!

This stuff all looks great. Hopefully CSM gets some rules fixes too, but i'll probably collect this stuff even if they don't.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:03:09


Post by: Bobthehero


Mmmm those snipers tho, lovely


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:05:25


Post by: crumby_cataphract


That's Abaddon teaser trailer is everything that is amazing about GW these days

Personally, though, I'm most excited about that incredible new librarian and snipers!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:05:40


Post by: Kanluwen


 Bobthehero wrote:
Mmmm those snipers tho, lovely

They'll look better in Raven Guard black...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:07:20


Post by: Bobthehero


Or on Scion bodies


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:07:35


Post by: Formosa


A new primaris LT .... Well done gw... Well done


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:08:59


Post by: Danny76


Abaddon looks cool


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:09:30


Post by: Daedalus81


GW just trolled the gak out of the community with that new lieutenant.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:09:45


Post by: Grinshanks


The new Abbadon in the video is looking slick!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:10:13


Post by: Kirasu


Pretty great video. It's good GW can laugh at themselves. Looks like all my scouts are being junked.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:10:26


Post by: Danny76


 Drudge Dreadnought wrote:
So that's 5 new CSM sculpts counting Blackstone fortress? Here's to hoping that'll mean a full new multi-part box for them soon!

This stuff all looks great. Hopefully CSM gets some rules fixes too, but i'll probably collect this stuff even if they don't.


There’ll be more than three in the box I’d have thought.
As they said that’s not all the models in it.

And looking at the other boxes they’ve done, normally quite a good model count.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:10:27


Post by: Saturmorn Carvilli


 Kanluwen wrote:
 Bobthehero wrote:
Mmmm those snipers tho, lovely

They'll look better in Raven Guard black...


Or Raptor olive drab.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:10:42


Post by: Grimgold


We are still missing some of the imperium side, they revealed the sniper and the librarian, but there should be two other units, one of them probably heavy to counter the new obliterators.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:17:59


Post by: Saturmorn Carvilli


I am mostly happy that Games Workshop has mostly shown they are updating the Chaos Space Marine models rather than making a Primaris equivalent or some other new fangled unit. I have no issues with the shown new marine sculpts and even quite like the Obliterator model. I can take or leave the vemoncrawler, but I am sure someone will like it quite a bit.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:23:49


Post by: Daedalus81


Yep...no primaris csm!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:26:49


Post by: drbored


Thank goodness no primaris CSM, but god everything out of that box looks amazing. The new Primaris, the new Chaos, I love it all. I'll be getting at least one of those boxes...

maybe two...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:29:23


Post by: Red Corsair


I play GSC....I play black legion... damn it, I am going broke over here...

It's a good problem to have

All that chaos stuff is on point. Glad I held off on converting new oblits for my BL.

Damn, I like the new primaris libby a lot too. I like the leather details, it adds a cool renaissance vibe like the custodes armor has.



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:30:12


Post by: Asherian Command


He has arrived
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/08/8th-feb-lvo-studio-preview-2019-revealed-new-chaos-space-marines-sisters-of-battle-and-moregw-homepage-post-1/?fbclid=IwAR2BChqB9d8SLtqCmwKG3WfmWM-EbeBDl434tH12SpVFdv0I1dntPK0j670


Funny little detail..

There is a dead Primaris LT on Abby's Base. (thats what they immedately cut to when they say 'the primaris lt you always wanted.')

Needless to say GW is aware of the meme.

Nice


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:31:24


Post by: Formosa


Love the look of the new chaos but if they are monopose again, not buying them, the tick is very nice, Abby looks good from what we've seen, chaos marines look as they should (with above caveat), the obliterator thing looks like total crap though... Total swing and a miss there, just looks like a hellbrute with a couple extra guns.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:36:51


Post by: Rickfactor


From Reddit








Loyalist




Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:50:48


Post by: Either/Or


The librarian could totally pass for a primaris Ezekiel-he even has keys!

I really like these new primaris. Can’t wait to see what else is in the box.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 04:55:40


Post by: Sqorgar


I like the new Primaris models a lot, but then, I'm one of the only people in the room cheering when Sigmar opens a new chamber too.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:01:48


Post by: Galas


I'm glad I didn't bought more sniper scouts. They improve a lot when you put Tempestus helmets on them but... those are just much better.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:03:05


Post by: darkcloak


Just when you thought it was safe to start a new army...

GW drops another box set with sweet new models. Thankfully I'm almost done painting my Space Marines and might even have some money by the time this new release drops.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:04:11


Post by: ingtaer


Good stuff, nice to see GW playing along with the Primaris lt.

I have changed the title of the thread to reflect its contents better.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:05:49


Post by: BlueGrassGamer


I'm half expecting that Games Workshop will also do a Kill Teams release right alongside Shadowspear. I mean, the new Kill Team boxes have included a Commander and a unit of guys. It's easy enough to come up with an idea of what the Primaris box would look like: the Vanguard Librarian and a squad of the Vanguard Primaris. Not sure what the Chaos Kill Team would look like.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:07:42


Post by: darkcloak


Also suddenly made a pretty hard about face in regards to Oblits. This must be one of the most drastic model updates ever in terms of replacing a bad sculpt with a decent one.

Kinda sold on The Tick too.

Still not sure a new Abby can bring me over to the Black Legion though. There is an extremely high chance those Chaos models will be joining the World Eaters!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:15:11


Post by: Yodhrin


As with all the Primaris stuff so far the fluff does nothing for me, but the models have a lot of potential. Somebody at GW really does have a fetish for the word "Vanguard" though.

The Chaos kits look lovely, but still too titchy for my taste. I think I'll reserve judgement on the new Oblits.

The Sister looks amazing.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:18:07


Post by: Asherian Command


 Yodhrin wrote:
As with all the Primaris stuff so far the fluff does nothing for me, but the models have a lot of potential. Somebody at GW really does have a fetish for the word "Vanguard" though.

The Chaos kits look lovely, but still too titchy for my taste. I think I'll reserve judgement on the new Oblits.

The Sister looks amazing.


Will there be a vanguard unit called a vanguard that vanguards the vanguard or will the vanguard vanguard the vanguards while vanguarding the vanguard?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:19:42


Post by: darkcloak


 Asherian Command wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
As with all the Primaris stuff so far the fluff does nothing for me, but the models have a lot of potential. Somebody at GW really does have a fetish for the word "Vanguard" though.

The Chaos kits look lovely, but still too titchy for my taste. I think I'll reserve judgement on the new Oblits.

The Sister looks amazing.


Will there be a vanguard unit called a vanguard that vanguards the vanguard or will the vanguard vanguard the vanguards while vanguarding the vanguard?


The VIth called, they want their schtick back.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:22:00


Post by: warboss


I'm most curious to see how over the top (figuratively and literally) Abby's hairdo is.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:28:05


Post by: Grimskul


Gobsmacking work again by Gdubs, everything looks great. Only issue I have with is fluff-wise, since the description for Vanguard seems very similar to what Reivers are supposed to do, just less emphasis on terror tactics and more on infiltration.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:39:03


Post by: Drudge Dreadnought


 warboss wrote:
I'm most curious to see how over the top (figuratively and literally) Abby's hairdo is.


It'll be an over-the-top knot.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:46:58


Post by: bullyboy


 Grimskul wrote:
Gobsmacking work again by Gdubs, everything looks great. Only issue I have with is fluff-wise, since the description for Vanguard seems very similar to what Reivers are supposed to do, just less emphasis on terror tactics and more on infiltration.


Its an expansion on the reiver, same armour, including Librarian. This was mentioned in the seminar.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 05:58:53


Post by: GoatboyBeta


Well that all looks great, cant wait to see what else is in the box.

I guess these Vanguard Primaris are the Scout company's replacement? The non skull helmed "Reivers" with tactical markings and the guy at the back with a servo skull in the artwork especially intrigue me. If GW are going to expand the other MKX armour variants then I really think its time to start revising that fluff about chapter size limits before they paint themselves into a corner.

The new CSM look like everything I ever wanted from them ever since the Dark vengeance models were released. The only slight downside is they might follow the Primaris in having the torso and legs as a single piece. But personnaly I'm ok with that as it does IMO give much better looking models. The new Oblit looks like an absolute beast, as does the Venom crawler


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 06:04:07


Post by: Slayer-Fan123


I got hard watching the preview for the Abigail reveal. I hate bling to death, but that's gonna be a gorgeous model.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 06:09:03


Post by: Dr. Temujin


I'm honestly a little off-put by the new Obliterator design. More than the Helbrute face-in-a-maw thing, it's the overly fleshy thighs.

The spider-tank, though? Now this... THIS is what a daemon engine should look like: the stuff of nightmares made manifest into something not quite monster, not quite machine, but something more horrifying than both.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 06:10:28


Post by: Kharne the Befriender


I NEED those obliterators.

They look monopose but hopefully they'll have some customization?


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 06:10:53


Post by: Slayer-Fan123


 Dr. Temujin wrote:
I'm honestly a little off-put by the new Obliterator design. More than the Helbrute face-in-a-maw thing, it's the overly fleshy thighs.

The spider-tank, though? Now this... THIS is what a daemon engine should look like: the stuff of nightmares made manifest into something not quite monster, not quite machine, but something more horrifying than both.

Paint the thighs non-fleshy then?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I NEED those obliterators.

They look monopose but hopefully they'll have some customization?

If GW lets us throw the guns wherever I'd say that it was a victory.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 06:15:40


Post by: Da-Rock


Obliterators look awesome!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 06:17:13


Post by: Either/Or


The naming convention for the new primaris makes it sound like sigmar/RG is opening a new primaris chamber...

Seems like a path to open up new primaris options on the regular, which helps with preventing stagnation with the #1 army.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 06:18:22


Post by: Kharne the Befriender


Not sure if it has been pointed out yet but there will be new possessed in the box as well.

The artwork has a possessed guy with a claw, that claw is identical to one of the rumor engine pictures


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 06:41:25


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Absolutely love that CSM are going to the more baroque look first seen in Dark Vengeance.

Been a long time coming, but seems Chaos is getting some much needed love.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 06:43:07


Post by: Either/Or


In the Shadowspear video there look to be some APCish shapes behind the librarian-I don't recognize the silhouette, but they do look to be grey, and I think you can see a large wheel. There is one in profile behind him and another front-ish on to the right in the picture.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 07:00:11


Post by: Galas


Who would have thought that after all these years we would at last receive a proper Dark Vengeance style Chaos Chosen release.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 07:13:54


Post by: Malika2


I wonder what those other Primaris Marines from the artwork are, their armour design is slightly different from the already existing models. And since GW doesn't really do artwork that is in the tiniest bit different from the models they sell, it can mean only one thing...


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 07:20:46


Post by: Racerguy180


They said all new models sooo....a wheeled transport like the current USArmy Stryker? maybe a new landspeeder "storm"?

I'm trying to guess model count.

Primaris
1 X Vanguard Librarian
3 X Eliminators
10(?) X Vanguard
1 X APC(as yet named)

1 X Master of Posessions
1-3 X Oblits
10 X Chaos Marines
(?) X Possesed
1 X Venomcrawler


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 07:22:56


Post by: lord_blackfang


Somehow they manage to make Obliterators dumber with every resculpt.

Chaos Tick looks amazeballs and I want the world's entire supply of them.

A new Primaris "Chamber" is a hard pass snorefest for me.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 07:42:44


Post by: Messiah


Finally obliterators I actually want to buy. These are the best ones they have made. Glad I waited for an update.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 07:43:25


Post by: Galas


probably Primaris Telion and Abaddon will also be featured on the set.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 07:52:29


Post by: MonkeyBallistic


Personally, I think the obliterators look terrible. Everything else looks amazing though. The Venomcrawler is the best demon engine they’ve done so far. So much better than the old dinobots.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 07:53:16


Post by: Not Online!!!


I quite like the venomcrawler.

To rip it appart and build something else.

The obliterators are i dunno, some parts look fantastic some of them just eugh.

I still prefer the chosen from the older box to the new marines.

I still want a propper cultists / traitorguardsmen box before a daemon engine.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 07:59:36


Post by: Galas


I love the Obliterators. They are T H I C C


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 08:08:16


Post by: MonkeyBallistic


Not Online!!! wrote:


To rip it appart and build something else.



That’s how I feel about every mini, but that still counts as liking the model


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 08:08:43


Post by: Malika2


I'm not so much into the fleshy parts of the Obliterators. But beyond that they're pretty cool!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 08:21:14


Post by: Latro_


Well oblits best not remain t4 3 wounds if those are the new models


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 08:24:41


Post by: Not Online!!!


 MonkeyBallistic wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:


To rip it appart and build something else.



That’s how I feel about every mini, but that still counts as liking the model


No i seriously don't like it, the only thing i am interested in is it feasble to form it into either A Dark Magos or something else.

I feel it is just done ugly.

(not to say that is a bad thing but as a core model, na fam, rather give us a new better defiler.)


Automatically Appended Next Post:
 Galas wrote:
I love the Obliterators. They are T H I C C



And also seemingly centurions.

I'd like a destroyer Cult sidegrade with smaller oblits, mutilators and Oblits as the big meanies.

That said what do people think about the master of possesion?
He has supposedly synergies with daemons.
That might become problematic .


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 08:36:37


Post by: Aren73


Kind of disappointed by lack of any mention of close combat Primaris, my Primaris Black Templars are in desperate need of some dudes with swords.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 08:51:03


Post by: Ratius


Those oblits are darn tasty. Not totally sold on the tick, probably at least lop of its tongue - looks a tad silly.
That librarian with the camo cloak too


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 08:51:38


Post by: lord_blackfang


I really wish they went back to the "metal men" concept for Obliterators instead of doubling down on the crappy "Terminators with cancer" reimagining.


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 08:58:58


Post by: Danny76


Librarian will be great for my Dark Angel successors


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 09:02:59


Post by: insaniak


Took them three tries, but they finally got Obliterators right! Basing then on Centurions was a bit of a no brainer, but it seems to work.

Spider tank is awesome, and that Librarian is glorious.



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/05/03 03:03:02


Post by: Galas


This Ninja-Librarian is the best Librarian Model they have ever released.
Maybe is because I'm biased as a Dark Angel player but I never liked librarians because they didn't had helmets and those psychic hoods and pool-hats where really silly.

The Primaris Librarian was the first Librarian I liked because he had an helmet but this one? Is so ninja and edgy. The hood, the pose, the sword, the rebreather, the leather gloves.
He looks like hes gonna teleport behind you and say "Nothing personal, xeno scum"


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 09:03:23


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 lord_blackfang wrote:
I really wish they went back to the "metal men" concept for Obliterators instead of doubling down on the crappy "Terminators with cancer" reimagining.


Oh gods no. Those were awful!


Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 09:03:37


Post by: Not Online!!!


"Terminators with cancer"


Could've sworn i heard some people say that about my Oblits when they were in play and destroyed stuff



Shadow Spear - guest appearance by Abaddon!  @ 2019/02/08 09:04:12


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Also, wondering that if this is a dual kit with Mutilators, what the Mutilator shoulder Weapons might be?