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New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 17:37:04


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Banner on Warhammer Community proclaiming it. Previews up 10am EST.

Place yo bets!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 17:44:41


Post by: lord_blackfang


This is the place for all the weird licensing deals! Warhammer My Little Pony! Settlers of Catachan! Ripper Furby! Baneblade Bayblades!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 17:50:29


Post by: Binabik15


Beastgrave Warbands?

Blackstone Fortress expansion?

One or two of those games with Warhammer minis that they hardly advertise and I don't ever learn their names.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 17:53:01


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Actually fancy playing Settlers of Catachan!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 18:02:28


Post by: Racerguy180


 lord_blackfang wrote:
This is the place for all the weird licensing deals! Warhammer My Little Pony! Settlers of Catachan! Ripper Furby! Baneblade Bayblades!


I might actually play Settlers of Catachan!

It'll be interesting to see what GW has in store. Hope they release info about the next Space Marine heroes.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 18:05:02


Post by: Dr. Mills


Settlers of Catachan sound cool.

If 7 of the 10 players haven't died horrific deaths, then that was an EASY game session!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 18:16:39


Post by: DaveC


This was lasts years reveal just board games and Funko Pops so not expecting much.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/02/15/15th-feb-new-models-games-and-funko-pop-at-the-new-york-toy-fairgw-homepage-post-3/


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 18:18:42


Post by: BrookM


Maybe a new series of Funkos then?

But hoping for a full unveil of Ghazghull or if they're doing more boardgames, glimpses at future mini releases tied into those.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 18:27:51


Post by: Albertorius


 lord_blackfang wrote:
This is the place for all the weird licensing deals! Warhammer My Little Pony! Settlers of Catachan! Ripper Furby! Baneblade Bayblades!


I would totally play a Settlers of Catachan, though.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 18:47:24


Post by: Agamemnon2




Wasn't that the first time we saw those four explorer sculpts which eventually showed up in a Blackstone Fortress supplement, at least?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 18:55:43


Post by: Ghaz



Yep, and the year before had even less...

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/02/19/new-games-new-york/


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 19:08:24


Post by: Cronch


Some more Barn and Nobs releases, this time even more bizarre!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 19:09:13


Post by: Sacredroach


How about an introductory/Learn-to-Play game of BFG? That would be completely unexpected.

But probably more Bandai/Funko stuff.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 19:47:10


Post by: lord_blackfang


In seriousness, I wouldn't hate Dreadfane 2. More warbands = more better.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 19:50:09


Post by: xttz


Whatever GW actually unveils on Saturday won't be as good as Settlers of Catachan


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 20:02:37


Post by: Insurgency Walker


 Albertorius wrote:
 lord_blackfang wrote:
This is the place for all the weird licensing deals! Warhammer My Little Pony! Settlers of Catachan! Ripper Furby! Baneblade Bayblades!


I would totally play a Settlers of Catachan, though.


Yeah, I'm down for that. Instead of the robber Baron you would have a Marauding Boss.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 20:06:31


Post by: Yodhrin


Ooh goody, I can't wait to hear about the latest licensed shelf-tat and a bunch of cool minigames that I'm not allowed to buy because I'm not American.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 20:15:36


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 Yodhrin wrote:
Ooh goody, I can't wait to hear about the latest licensed shelf-tat and a bunch of cool minigames that I'm not allowed to buy because I'm not American.


Conquest, Warhammer world exclusives, more fun things that are UK or superlocalized UK only.

I'd all up for settlers of catachan and make it an Aus/NZ only thing.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 21:23:39


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


No love for Baneblad Bey Blades? Think of the angsty monologues! The staring! The stupid moves you claim your superheavy tank is pulling whenever it wobbles! The homemade terrain consisting of a round sled on top of a bucket!



New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 21:28:49


Post by: Overread


Ripper furbies are the devil - but the fact that GW hasn't got Ripper plushies is possibly criminally insane of them. You can bet a few rippers and gryph hound stuffed toys would sell like mad (heck PP sells stuffed shredders)




New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 21:32:02


Post by: BrookM


Wouldn't say no to GW-themed plushies.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 21:32:35


Post by: Not Online!!!


Traitor guard, pls?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 21:33:18


Post by: Kanluwen


 Overread wrote:
Ripper furbies are the devil - but the fact that GW hasn't got Ripper plushies is possibly criminally insane of them. You can bet a few rippers and gryph hound stuffed toys would sell like mad (heck PP sells stuffed shredders)

I'd be obligated by my friends to get a Gryph-Hound, seeing as I've got 36 of the blighters...and ran an almost all Gryph-Hound army once.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 21:38:27


Post by: recaf


 Overread wrote:
You can bet a few rippers and gryph hound stuffed toys would sell like mad


I'd love a Nurgling plush.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 21:39:57


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I want a cuddly Squig.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 22:16:18


Post by: aka_mythos


I think it'll be interesting to see because it will really give us a sense of how receptive the industry has been to GW's licensing and whether there is a sense that its profitable enough after those fees.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 22:35:56


Post by: Carnikang


GW should work out a deal with Lego. Brickhammer would be great for every age of hobbyist.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 23:13:15


Post by: Platuan4th


 Carnikang wrote:
GW should work out a deal with Lego. Brickhammer would be great for every age of hobbyist.


I'd prefer MegaConstrux, their mini action figures are leagues superior to the LEGO Minifigs.

Plus, China already makes KO LEGO IG.



New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 23:21:47


Post by: Overread


 aka_mythos wrote:
I think it'll be interesting to see because it will really give us a sense of how receptive the industry has been to GW's licensing and whether there is a sense that its profitable enough after those fees.


GW is sort of in the middle outside of its own market. This makes it big enough that big firms will pay attention to them and can see potential in a licence agreement; however it also means that smaller firms who want a leg-up in the crowded market are more willing to stump up the cash to get the GW IP even if its not the best deal in the world, because it helps them rise above the rest with a recognised IP. GW is also likely a lot easier to sign on than some really big names like Starwars or almost any major Hollywood films (which also come with major time constraints).


I think for GW its also a very easy way to generate income from their IP without risking their core market. There's a few question marks though. For example the recent AoS Champions card and digital game was quite popular for a time and was starting to cover some ground in growing itself. However the company behind it clearly didn't make it work and after 6 months of utter silence they formally closed the physical game side of it (keep in mind during those 6 months they had an expansion due for physical release "at any moment" which was already digitally released and, from their FB page comments, stockists couldn't even get any physical stock for the already released stuff). Whilst its not GWs "core" market; its clear that a product like that is basically targeting the same market enough that bad results are going to tarnish GW's name and licence. Then again its not the first card game to go under with the GW IP and it doesn't seem to have stalled GW taking on new faces and companies attempting to make it into that market.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 23:23:18


Post by: foenixphate


Honestly at this point my main want on the reveals is the Scions of the Flame, since they are the last warband for Warcry, this seems as good of a place to reveal them as any too.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 23:23:30


Post by: Overread


 Platuan4th wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:
GW should work out a deal with Lego. Brickhammer would be great for every age of hobbyist.


I'd prefer MegaConstrux, their mini action figures are leagues superior to the LEGO Minifigs.

Plus, China already makes KO LEGO IG.



Gods could you imagine the rules arguments. GW would take the "its you'r game do what you want" stance that they typically take; whilst events would take the "please use official GW models and not models under licence from Lego". I could see PAGES and PAGES of DAKKA arguments about how lego Imperial Guard should be allowed and how they are more faithful to the lore/scaling and a million other arguments. Heck we might even see "lego designed terrain boards" rise up as a thing!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/17 23:27:02


Post by: lord_blackfang


Looking forward to arguments about LEGO boob armour


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 00:21:53


Post by: Binabik15


Why is that IG dude rocking a probably 1:1 sized Temple Guard polearm - and why is it so awesome?

I need them.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 00:27:27


Post by: Ghaz


foenixphate wrote:
Honestly at this point my main want on the reveals is the Scions of the Flame, since they are the last warband for Warcry, this seems as good of a place to reveal them as any too.

Past previews at the NY Toy Fair says that you'll be disappointed. Scions of the Flame preview would most likely be held for AdeptiCon next month if it's ready.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 00:34:26


Post by: Chikout


Gw usually previews side game stuff at Gama which starts on March 9th. I would expect to see warcry and bloodbowl stuff there. The toy fair is for weirder stuff.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 00:50:31


Post by: Ghaz


Chikout wrote:
Gw usually previews side game stuff at Gama which starts on March 9th. I would expect to see warcry and bloodbowl stuff there. The toy fair is for weirder stuff.

Yep. I always forget about GAMA

GAMA 2019 - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/11/breaking-news-from-gama/

GAMA 2018 - https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/14/kill-team-doom-lords-van-saar-and-moregw-homepage-post-1/


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 01:28:28


Post by: Argive


The new anime series, seems to try and expand into the Asian and Western markets simultaneously. With anime like castlevania and all of the Ghibli classis coming to Netflix in full force and capturing new audiences this certainly seems like a path.

The Lego concept is an interesting one. I don't think it would really be a competition with miniatures on its own merits, but more like a gateway/entry for really young uns. My naphew is too young for something as delicate as modelling. But he is all over Lego. I can see him progressing onto models once hes a bit older. However, I can certainly see people rocking up with Full Lego armies wanting to play 40k... Not sure how Id feel about that..

With the Eisenhorn testing newer waters still on the horizon. Certainly interesting times ahead and some choppy waters to navigate for GW. I don't think they will flunder like D&D because the availability of platforms and resource in the modern day are nothing like what D&D had back in the day..

God...I Just had a dark vision that if 40k ever goes mainstream along the anime paths, it would mean that inevitably we would see a wave of Warhammer SM based Yaoi & Weird slaneshi themed hentai arise.. By the emperor I hope this does not come to pass!!!! *shuddering*


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 01:59:34


Post by: H.B.M.C.


 BrookM wrote:
Wouldn't say no to GW-themed plushies.
Nurglings! That would be good.

Nuglings, Rippers, Brimstone Horrors and... Scarabs?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 03:16:28


Post by: Sabotage!


 Ghaz wrote:
foenixphate wrote:
Honestly at this point my main want on the reveals is the Scions of the Flame, since they are the last warband for Warcry, this seems as good of a place to reveal them as any too.

Past previews at the NY Toy Fair says that you'll be disappointed. Scions of the Flame preview would most likely be held for AdeptiCon next month if it's ready.


I’m also wanting the Scions, though I don’t think we will see them at the Toy Fair.....doesn’t seem par for course. I think we will probably see them at GAMA alongside a Blood Bowl team next month.

All that said I can secretly hope for more Blitz Bowl stuff.....because that game is fantastic and is a B&N product.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 04:08:29


Post by: Yodhrin


 MajorWesJanson wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Ooh goody, I can't wait to hear about the latest licensed shelf-tat and a bunch of cool minigames that I'm not allowed to buy because I'm not American.


Conquest, Warhammer world exclusives, more fun things that are UK or superlocalized UK only.

I'd all up for settlers of catachan and make it an Aus/NZ only thing.


Your point presumes I want or would defend such things - my track record on the issue is consistent, I despise "exclusives" of any form, just sell the sodding product to everyone.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 04:33:07


Post by: bullyboy


 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
Wouldn't say no to GW-themed plushies.
Nurglings! That would be good.

Nuglings, Rippers, Brimstone Horrors and... Scarabs?


If I don't get plush Watchers in the Dark....then the rest can burn


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 06:38:00


Post by: Theophony


 Overread wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:
GW should work out a deal with Lego. Brickhammer would be great for every age of hobbyist.


I'd prefer MegaConstrux, their mini action figures are leagues superior to the LEGO Minifigs.

Plus, China already makes KO LEGO IG.



Gods could you imagine the rules arguments. GW would take the "its you'r game do what you want" stance that they typically take; whilst events would take the "please use official GW models and not models under licence from Lego". I could see PAGES and PAGES of DAKKA arguments about how lego Imperial Guard should be allowed and how they are more faithful to the lore/scaling and a million other arguments. Heck we might even see "lego designed terrain boards" rise up as a thing!


Clearly those are someone’s scratch build s as you can see the different colors of putties used .


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 07:00:04


Post by: Slayer-Fan123


I mean Brikwars is probably more balanced anyway than actual 40k at this point. Why not just play that?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 07:27:40


Post by: Hellebore


 Argive wrote:
The new anime series, seems to try and expand into the Asian and Western markets simultaneously. With anime like castlevania and all of the Ghibli classis coming to Netflix in full force and capturing new audiences this certainly seems like a path.

The Lego concept is an interesting one. I don't think it would really be a competition with miniatures on its own merits, but more like a gateway/entry for really young uns. My naphew is too young for something as delicate as modelling. But he is all over Lego. I can see him progressing onto models once hes a bit older. However, I can certainly see people rocking up with Full Lego armies wanting to play 40k... Not sure how Id feel about that..

With the Eisenhorn testing newer waters still on the horizon. Certainly interesting times ahead and some choppy waters to navigate for GW. I don't think they will flunder like D&D because the availability of platforms and resource in the modern day are nothing like what D&D had back in the day..

God...I Just had a dark vision that if 40k ever goes mainstream along the anime paths, it would mean that inevitably we would see a wave of Warhammer SM based Yaoi & Weird slaneshi themed hentai arise.. By the emperor I hope this does not come to pass!!!! *shuddering*


The Eldar alre already walking anime tropes, long thin brooding beautiful.

The path system would generate every kind of shounen story line, because they are always about improving your skills to defeat everyone and master your art.

Food wars: path of the chef
Any fighting anime: path of the warrior - but don't get lost or you will fall
Evangellion: titan clan juniors
Hentai (all of it): commoragh nights
Puella Magi Madoka Magica: path of the Seer
Any travelling loner anime: path of the outcast

The Eldar wear enough skintight clothing and outlandish garb to be characters in any young kids anime regardless.





New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 07:30:23


Post by: BrookM


Uhm, if they're doing a proper anime, it'll be about Titans or Imperial Knights, mecha are their bread and butter after all.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 07:39:09


Post by: Argive


 BrookM wrote:
Uhm, if they're doing a proper anime, it'll be about Titans or Imperial Knights, mecha are their bread and butter after all.


I think the CG Angels of death seems to be more about Big war machines and is aimed more at the Gamer western space marine player.

The animation seems to be more character-driven (Naruto in space...) and more about universe building.
The children cartoon thing.. Some garbage for kids.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/13/revealed-animated-heroes/

Last years media reel:







New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 07:52:30


Post by: Hellebore


 BrookM wrote:
Uhm, if they're doing a proper anime, it'll be about Titans or Imperial Knights, mecha are their bread and butter after all.


The only armies suitable for mecha genre action are Eldar, tau and Tyranids. You've got your lithe lightning quick Evangelion style.mecha, your blocker, more machine like military mecha and an obligatory alien Monster force.

Imperial and Ork mecha are so slow and ponderous you don't see their style much in anime.


And the majority of anime isn't even mecha, that's just what was exported to the West. Most of it is slice of life, or heiress journey in gimmick land - one of my favourite anime is about a kid that bakes bread....


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 07:59:55


Post by: BrianDavion


 BrookM wrote:
Uhm, if they're doing a proper anime, it'll be about Titans or Imperial Knights, mecha are their bread and butter after all.


not really, Anime mecha tends to be fairly manuverable, Imperial Knights and titans are more part of the "westren mecha tradtion" oweing more to BATTLEtech then ROBOtech


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 08:09:38


Post by: Big Mac


 Theophony wrote:
 Overread wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:
GW should work out a deal with Lego. Brickhammer would be great for every age of hobbyist.


I'd prefer MegaConstrux, their mini action figures are leagues superior to the LEGO Minifigs.

Plus, China already makes KO LEGO IG.



Gods could you imagine the rules arguments. GW would take the "its you'r game do what you want" stance that they typically take; whilst events would take the "please use official GW models and not models under licence from Lego". I could see PAGES and PAGES of DAKKA arguments about how lego Imperial Guard should be allowed and how they are more faithful to the lore/scaling and a million other arguments. Heck we might even see "lego designed terrain boards" rise up as a thing!


Clearly those are someone’s scratch build s as you can see the different colors of putties used .


They are not scratch made, I had my cousin help me do a search here in China, and bam, there they are.

Edit: picked up a platoon of LEGO cadians:
6 man variety pack x2(1 set sacrificed to cousin’s 4 yr old)
Single plasma gunner x2
Combination platoon(20 lasgun, 1 bolt pistol) x2





New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 09:43:06


Post by: Cronch


 Argive wrote:

God...I Just had a dark vision that if 40k ever goes mainstream along the anime paths, it would mean that inevitably we would see a wave of Warhammer SM based Yaoi & Weird slaneshi themed hentai arise.. By the emperor I hope this does not come to pass!!!! *shuddering*

That'd require GW to actually decide what slaanesh is supposed to be about, and they'll never do it, since 40k is far too child-friendly right now to risk it. Gore and slaughter are fine, marines kissing marines would be icky
oweing more to BATTLEtech then ROBOtech

It's called Macross (or any of the other two animes HG butchered) thank you, Robotech is what happens when you need to syndicate enough episodes for US TV and have no shame


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 09:47:18


Post by: Not Online!!!


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I want a cuddly Squig.


That would also be acceptable


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 09:57:46


Post by: alphaecho


 bullyboy wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
Wouldn't say no to GW-themed plushies.
Nurglings! That would be good.

Nuglings, Rippers, Brimstone Horrors and... Scarabs?


If I don't get plush Watchers in the Dark....then the rest can burn



Nothing is allowed to burn until after I get Space Marine Minion Kevin and Chapter Master Minion Bob.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 10:02:21


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


You know what would be funny? If they did a WH40k Isekai, because even if the main character inevitably gets super powers (because Isekai are like that), he still has a rough time because WH40k is designed to be a miserable experience for everyone in that world. Its like an anti-isekai, where instead of the main character getting OP powers and becoming a huge mary sue where everything is easy and somehow gets a harem, the MC gets OP powers and still has a bad time and the harem consists of, idk, slaaneshi cultists who are into some horrible gak.

Like, yeah sure, you might have Alpha psyker level powers in Isekai 40k, but now you're targeted by both demons and Sisters of Silence, so have fun.
That would be like, I don't know, NGE levels of trolling. Bonus points if they pull a madoka and start off typical isekai, and then bam, first friend in the setting gets his head bitten clean off by an Ork in the second episode.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 12:06:36


Post by: Theophony


Spoiler:
 Big Mac wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
 Overread wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:
GW should work out a deal with Lego. Brickhammer would be great for every age of hobbyist.


I'd prefer MegaConstrux, their mini action figures are leagues superior to the LEGO Minifigs.

Plus, China already makes KO LEGO IG.



Gods could you imagine the rules arguments. GW would take the "its you'r game do what you want" stance that they typically take; whilst events would take the "please use official GW models and not models under licence from Lego". I could see PAGES and PAGES of DAKKA arguments about how lego Imperial Guard should be allowed and how they are more faithful to the lore/scaling and a million other arguments. Heck we might even see "lego designed terrain boards" rise up as a thing!


Clearly those are someone’s scratch build s as you can see the different colors of putties used .


They are not scratch made, I had my cousin help me do a search here in China, and bam, there they are, 4/guy, 20/squad of 6, in Chinese money, so about $0.60/guy, $3/Fire team. You can get a horde easily and you don’t have to paint them!

Edit: picked up a platoon of LEGO cadians:
6 man variety pack x2(1 set for cousin’s 4 yr old)
Single plasma gunner x2
Combination platoon(20 lasgun, 1 bolt pistol) x2

Cost me 182 Chinese = $26 for 50(6 shall be lost forever)man LEGO Cadian platoon




Sorry, the joke was missed, my humor and lack of sleep. When the first images of new Primaris were released people swore it was all just a conversion and they could tell by the color of the material.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 12:16:18


Post by: BrookM


 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
You know what would be funny? If they did a WH40k Isekai, because even if the main character inevitably gets super powers (because Isekai are like that), he still has a rough time because WH40k is designed to be a miserable experience for everyone in that world. Its like an anti-isekai, where instead of the main character getting OP powers and becoming a huge mary sue where everything is easy and somehow gets a harem, the MC gets OP powers and still has a bad time and the harem consists of, idk, slaaneshi cultists who are into some horrible gak.

Like, yeah sure, you might have Alpha psyker level powers in Isekai 40k, but now you're targeted by both demons and Sisters of Silence, so have fun.
That would be like, I don't know, NGE levels of trolling. Bonus points if they pull a madoka and start off typical isekai, and then bam, first friend in the setting gets his head bitten clean off by an Ork in the second episode.
Someone did that with Warhammer Fantasy and it did not end well for the guy.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 12:17:32


Post by: Oppl


 Platuan4th wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:
GW should work out a deal with Lego. Brickhammer would be great for every age of hobbyist.


I'd prefer MegaConstrux, their mini action figures are leagues superior to the LEGO Minifigs.

Plus, China already makes KO LEGO IG.


Massively disagree.

Lego minifigures have an adorable charm and a sturdy possibility which makes them easy to pose and mass. Mega figures are too articulated for my liking. I know that's the point but its not what I want for that system. A brick-constructed system suits the more rigid Lego design of figure, and the popularity of them seems to indicate what the consumer prefers too.

Just look at those cute Cadians!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 12:21:56


Post by: CthuluIsSpy


 BrookM wrote:
 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
You know what would be funny? If they did a WH40k Isekai, because even if the main character inevitably gets super powers (because Isekai are like that), he still has a rough time because WH40k is designed to be a miserable experience for everyone in that world. Its like an anti-isekai, where instead of the main character getting OP powers and becoming a huge mary sue where everything is easy and somehow gets a harem, the MC gets OP powers and still has a bad time and the harem consists of, idk, slaaneshi cultists who are into some horrible gak.

Like, yeah sure, you might have Alpha psyker level powers in Isekai 40k, but now you're targeted by both demons and Sisters of Silence, so have fun.
That would be like, I don't know, NGE levels of trolling. Bonus points if they pull a madoka and start off typical isekai, and then bam, first friend in the setting gets his head bitten clean off by an Ork in the second episode.
Someone did that with Warhammer Fantasy and it did not end well for the guy.


Really? Do tell more.
Or are you talking about that TTS skit?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 13:11:30


Post by: CypherTheMysterious


If we are wishlisting


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 15:06:24


Post by: GaroRobe


Oh come on! I saw that it was a 10 am reveal, but didn't read the part that it was happening on the 22nd, not today XD


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 15:10:14


Post by: Asmodai


The Bandai chibis seem to be selling really well, so I'm guessing we'll get a Xenos group of 5:
- Fire Warrior
- Howling Banshee
- Ork Boy
- Genestealer Cult Hybrid
- Necron Warrior


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 15:11:38


Post by: Platuan4th


 Theophony wrote:
Spoiler:
 Big Mac wrote:
 Theophony wrote:
 Overread wrote:
 Platuan4th wrote:
 Carnikang wrote:
GW should work out a deal with Lego. Brickhammer would be great for every age of hobbyist.


I'd prefer MegaConstrux, their mini action figures are leagues superior to the LEGO Minifigs.

Plus, China already makes KO LEGO IG.



Gods could you imagine the rules arguments. GW would take the "its you'r game do what you want" stance that they typically take; whilst events would take the "please use official GW models and not models under licence from Lego". I could see PAGES and PAGES of DAKKA arguments about how lego Imperial Guard should be allowed and how they are more faithful to the lore/scaling and a million other arguments. Heck we might even see "lego designed terrain boards" rise up as a thing!


Clearly those are someone’s scratch build s as you can see the different colors of putties used .


They are not scratch made, I had my cousin help me do a search here in China, and bam, there they are, 4/guy, 20/squad of 6, in Chinese money, so about $0.60/guy, $3/Fire team. You can get a horde easily and you don’t have to paint them!

Edit: picked up a platoon of LEGO cadians:
6 man variety pack x2(1 set for cousin’s 4 yr old)
Single plasma gunner x2
Combination platoon(20 lasgun, 1 bolt pistol) x2

Cost me 182 Chinese = $26 for 50(6 shall be lost forever)man LEGO Cadian platoon




Sorry, the joke was missed, my humor and lack of sleep. When the first images of new Primaris were released people swore it was all just a conversion and they could tell by the color of the material.


I was hoping no one else had commented, I was wanting to do an r/woosh.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 15:20:12


Post by: aka_mythos


 Overread wrote:
 aka_mythos wrote:
I think it'll be interesting to see because it will really give us a sense of how receptive the industry has been to GW's licensing and whether there is a sense that its profitable enough after those fees.


GW is sort of in the middle outside of its own market. This makes it big enough that big firms will pay attention to them and can see potential in a licence agreement; however it also means that smaller firms who want a leg-up in the crowded market are more willing to stump up the cash to get the GW IP even if its not the best deal in the world, because it helps them rise above the rest with a recognised IP. GW is also likely a lot easier to sign on than some really big names like Starwars or almost any major Hollywood films (which also come with major time constraints).


I think for GW its also a very easy way to generate income from their IP without risking their core market. There's a few question marks though. For example the recent AoS Champions card and digital game was quite popular for a time and was starting to cover some ground in growing itself. However the company behind it clearly didn't make it work and after 6 months of utter silence they formally closed the physical game side of it (keep in mind during those 6 months they had an expansion due for physical release "at any moment" which was already digitally released and, from their FB page comments, stockists couldn't even get any physical stock for the already released stuff). Whilst its not GWs "core" market; its clear that a product like that is basically targeting the same market enough that bad results are going to tarnish GW's name and licence. Then again its not the first card game to go under with the GW IP and it doesn't seem to have stalled GW taking on new faces and companies attempting to make it into that market.
I just mean if GW wants $1M a year for a license, the company has to believe they'll make enough above and beyond that $1M that its a small enough percentage that they can remain profitable. For example if we assume standard cost to profit margins, before a company produces a single product they have to believe they'll be making atleast $4M to be considered profitable. Bandai made 9000 space marine action figures and sold them at $100+ a piece; meaning if whatever their deal with GW is profitable its because its less than a $1M a year or they're playing a longer strategy that ramps things up and they expect to lose money the first couple years. FFG's StarWars licence was rumored to be $1M/yr plus a percentage. Other companies have had similar deals for other SW licenses and over the years those have folded or gave up on the license. GW can't help but think they should be shooting for that kind of money.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 17:37:57


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Build-A-Squig Workshop.

Want.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/18 18:13:18


Post by: Overread


GW is strong but its not Starwars. GW has a powerful niche in the market, but they lack the mass market appeal that Starwars instantly has - especially Starwars during a time when they are releasing new movies to the market.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/19 06:05:23


Post by: Coenus Scaldingus


 Asmodai wrote:
The Bandai chibis seem to be selling really well, so I'm guessing we'll get a Xenos group of 5:
- Fire Warrior
- Howling Banshee
- Ork Boy
- Genestealer Cult Hybrid
- Necron Warrior

Possibly, but certainly not based on sales data from just the last few weeks. Besides, we've already seen more Imperial chibis previewed before that have not been released yet (classic Marine, even more classic beaky Marine with Ork head, Tempestus, Witch Hunter), so one assumes those plus perhaps a fifth addition will be the next batch. Nice though it would be, it would likely not be until the third wave that we finally see some Xenos, or non-Imperials in general (several of which feel more iconic for 40k than a Tempestus Scion).


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/19 06:44:08


Post by: Argive


 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:
 Asmodai wrote:
The Bandai chibis seem to be selling really well, so I'm guessing we'll get a Xenos group of 5:
- Fire Warrior
- Howling Banshee
- Ork Boy
- Genestealer Cult Hybrid
- Necron Warrior

Possibly, but certainly not based on sales data from just the last few weeks. Besides, we've already seen more Imperial chibis previewed before that have not been released yet (classic Marine, even more classic beaky Marine with Ork head, Tempestus, Witch Hunter), so one assumes those plus perhaps a fifth addition will be the next batch. Nice though it would be, it would likely not be until the third wave that we finally see some Xenos, or non-Imperials in general (several of which feel more iconic for 40k than a Tempestus Scion).


FOr some reason, I think a striking scorpion or a guardian.
I hate chibis but if they do a scorpion one I might actually buy one..


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Cronch wrote:
 Argive wrote:

God...I Just had a dark vision that if 40k ever goes mainstream along the anime paths, it would mean that inevitably we would see a wave of Warhammer SM based Yaoi & Weird slaneshi themed hentai arise.. By the emperor I hope this does not come to pass!!!! *shuddering*

That'd require GW to actually decide what slaanesh is supposed to be about, and they'll never do it, since 40k is far too child-friendly right now to risk it. Gore and slaughter are fine, marines kissing marines would be icky
oweing more to BATTLEtech then ROBOtech

It's called Macross (or any of the other two animes HG butchered) thank you, Robotech is what happens when you need to syndicate enough episodes for US TV and have no shame


Ohh I have no doubt but Yaoi / hentai fan fic will have zero to do with what GW wants lol.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/19 07:20:31


Post by: shadowsfm


i found the cadian lego knock offs online and couldn't resist buying 20 of them from aliexpress


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/19 11:01:39


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Argive wrote:

FOr some reason, I think a striking scorpion or a guardian.
I hate chibis but if they do a scorpion one I might actually buy one..


How would you even tell the difference with an Eldar chibi?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/19 11:36:20


Post by: Sunny Side Up


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Argive wrote:

FOr some reason, I think a striking scorpion or a guardian.
I hate chibis but if they do a scorpion one I might actually buy one..


How would you even tell the difference with an Eldar chibi?


Same way you'd tell the difference with Marine chibi, no? How do you know one's an Ultramarine and the other a Blood Angel or Space Wolf?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/19 12:36:18


Post by: Nevelon


Scorpion Chibi is also an easy one to pick out. Huge head = Huge mandiblasters.

Might be harder to pick out a storm guardian vs. a guardian defender, or anyone using the basic eldar helmet.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 10:20:08


Post by: Humanoid


shadowsfm wrote:
i found the cadian lego knock offs online and couldn't resist buying 20 of them from aliexpress

I had to look for them once I saw them ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000547477811.html

Does anyone know of a Canadian source for the KT1037, especially the XP291 Assault?

I am now curious about other such LEGO-type figurines in the 40K style.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 12:42:52


Post by: Big Mac


Humanoid wrote:
shadowsfm wrote:
i found the cadian lego knock offs online and couldn't resist buying 20 of them from aliexpress

I had to look for them once I saw them ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/i/4000547477811.html

Does anyone know of a Canadian source for the KT1037, especially the XP291 Assault?

I am now curious about other such LEGO-type figurines in the 40K style.


You can check out my LEGO gallery for suitable components I found so far; as for the source for guardsmen with lasgun: there are in batches of 20 + 1 other variant; I have been procuring a few sets to bring them with me back home.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 12:59:58


Post by: timetowaste85


shadowsfm wrote:
i found the cadian lego knock offs online and couldn't resist buying 20 of them from aliexpress


Just a warning...aliexpress is a recaster. They’re the exact same company I’ve been fighting with PayPal over to get reimbursed for terrible resin recasts. I urge people not to use them. The only difference is they’re “honest” about recasting and show pictures. But their quality is still awful.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 13:08:40


Post by: Yodhrin


Aliexpress is a marketplace like Amazon or Ebay. Recasters sell on it, but not everyone who sells on it is a recaster.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 13:33:29


Post by: Emicrania


40k 9th or is it too early?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 13:49:39


Post by: Kanluwen


 Emicrania wrote:
40k 9th or is it too early?

Wouldn't be shown at Toy Fair.

Toy Fair is licensed products for the most part. Adepticon is where we'd see hintings of the 8.5 that's rumored to be coming.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 13:57:59


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


If 8.5/9 is on the way? That’s a Warhammerfest job I reckon.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 14:08:58


Post by: Geifer


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
If 8.5/9 is on the way? That’s a Warhammerfest job I reckon.


Either that or Adepticon. Both are big enough for GW to announce a new edition at and the only real question is if they want the news to break sooner or later (that is two or three months before release).


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 14:17:43


Post by: GaroRobe


So, another Shadespire warband? Or that final Warcry team? I still am betting on a Ghaz reveal, since he'll be shown off soon enough and they can market that as a "Big reveal" despite all the teasers and the imminent release date.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 14:35:47


Post by: Kanluwen


GaroRobe wrote:
So, another Shadespire warband? Or that final Warcry team? I still am betting on a Ghaz reveal, since he'll be shown off soon enough and they can market that as a "Big reveal" despite all the teasers and the imminent release date.

Again: this is the New York Toy Fair. It's not a trade show or convention for hobby stuff, this is where GW licensed items tend to show up.

More likely:
Space Marine Heroes Death Guard set getting a US/Canada release, some new stuff for Blackstone Fortress, and a few other board game-ish styled of things that are licensed out.
Last year we saw the Funko Pops, wave 2 of the Space Marine Heroes stuff, Dreadfane(which repackaged existing Easy to Build sets into an Underworlds branding, sold only at Barnes and Noble for a chunk of time), and Combat Arena(which took the 4 heroes out of Blackstone Fortress: Escalation and was only sold via Barnes and Noble).


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 17:15:11


Post by: SamusDrake


Confident in my current spending plan for 2020, GW will now throw a huge spanner in the works...SPACE HULK 5th edition.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 17:34:47


Post by: judgedoug


Cronch wrote:

oweing more to BATTLEtech then ROBOtech

It's called Macross (or any of the other two animes HG butchered) thank you, Robotech is what happens when you need to syndicate enough episodes for US TV and have no shame


There's always That Guy whenever Robotech is mentioned.
(Despite Robotech being superior in every way to the source materials.)


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 17:59:19


Post by: angryboy2k


shadowsfm wrote:

Does anyone know of a Canadian source for the KT1037, especially the XP291 Assault?



Why would you bother looking for these in Canada? You'd spend more in gas (or if mail order, significantly more in postage) than you would just buying them on Aliexpress. US$4.99 for a set of 6, with free shipping to Canada, less $3 for a new user signup, equals $1.99 that I couldn't resist spending yesterday.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 18:50:41


Post by: warboss


 judgedoug wrote:

There's always That Guy whenever Robotech is mentioned.
(Despite Robotech being superior in every way to the source materials.)


Except.. you know.. the animation. Sentinels and Shadow Chronicles, I'm looking at you! And that's from someone who didn't really like anything after Macross 2.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/20 18:54:33


Post by: Albertorius


 judgedoug wrote:
Cronch wrote:

oweing more to BATTLEtech then ROBOtech

It's called Macross (or any of the other two animes HG butchered) thank you, Robotech is what happens when you need to syndicate enough episodes for US TV and have no shame


There's always That Guy whenever Robotech is mentioned.
(Despite Robotech being superior in every way to the source materials.)

Well, that's certainly an opinion that people has.

OTOH, one franchise is dead and one isn't.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/21 17:24:13


Post by: Platuan4th


 Albertorius wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:
Cronch wrote:

oweing more to BATTLEtech then ROBOtech

It's called Macross (or any of the other two animes HG butchered) thank you, Robotech is what happens when you need to syndicate enough episodes for US TV and have no shame


There's always That Guy whenever Robotech is mentioned.
(Despite Robotech being superior in every way to the source materials.)

Well, that's certainly an opinion that people has.

OTOH, one franchise is dead and one isn't.


Wait, when did Macross die? Because Robotech just had a very well received release of models.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/21 18:29:58


Post by: Cronch


Lol, robotech being alive. It literally exists so HG can stop Macross relases in the US, because let's be honest, no one, not a single person in existence cares about Mospeada.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/21 18:32:44


Post by: warboss


Well, they renewed the license so obviously the company in Japan is ok with that. Me as a fan? Not such much. As for Mospeada, it has its fans although only the delusional would claim that they come close to the numbers of Macross fans.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/21 18:37:49


Post by: aka_mythos


 Overread wrote:
GW is strong but its not Starwars. GW has a powerful niche in the market, but they lack the mass market appeal that Starwars instantly has - especially Starwars during a time when they are releasing new movies to the market.
True, but they likely have a sense of how much those licensing fees generate for Disney, and it pretty much gives them a target high point. If Star Wars is a million to multimillion dollar license fee, GW knows what is possible, because you can bet if Disney thought they could get more than they would. So then GW says "in 10 years we our licenses to be a multi-million dollar licenses", that starts narrowing down potential partners and those that could afford to pay for that license which in turn can inform GW of what those companies are looking for in a potential license.

Video games have been a big source of GW's licensing revenue, and we know that Warhammer Fantasy has been a big enough part of that while AoS has been less interesting to those licensees. Its impossible for this not to have factored into their decision to revive the Old World setting. It shows GW is willing to do different things to sell licenses. While the Eisenhorn series is probably going to make some companies a lot of money, allowing that series to be made is exactly the sort of move GW needs to make to break out of a niche market. As is all the animation they're having done.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/21 18:38:17


Post by: Voss


SamusDrake wrote:
Confident in my current spending plan for 2020, GW will now throw a huge spanner in the works...SPACE HULK 5th edition.


If they do anything with Space Hulk, they'll 'find' another 500 copies in the back of the warehouse and slap a new sticker on the box.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/21 19:58:47


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


I'm one of those weird people in the minority that would've preferred Mospeada's Invid and Ride Armor to airplane robots and chicken walkers without even batting an eye.


Closest I've come so far are the Zombiesmith Kami Tale models...



How much longer til we see some game stuff getting teased?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/21 20:38:16


Post by: BobtheInquisitor


Invid were my favorite faction from Robotech. I’d buy the crap out of a 10mmish-scaled line of plastic Invid mecha.

Related note: DFC’s Scourge are pretty sweet.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/21 23:22:55


Post by: Albertorius


 Platuan4th wrote:
 Albertorius wrote:
 judgedoug wrote:
Cronch wrote:

oweing more to BATTLEtech then ROBOtech

It's called Macross (or any of the other two animes HG butchered) thank you, Robotech is what happens when you need to syndicate enough episodes for US TV and have no shame


There's always That Guy whenever Robotech is mentioned.
(Despite Robotech being superior in every way to the source materials.)

Well, that's certainly an opinion that people has.

OTOH, one franchise is dead and one isn't.


Wait, when did Macross die? Because Robotech just had a very well received release of models.

Well, if that's the measure, the Macross franchises are still releasing new models basically each month... this very month, for example, a VF-31S. It's been kinda slow lately, though, only half a dozen releases each month or so.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 00:01:26


Post by: Platuan4th


Yes, I'm very aware, thank you.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 04:02:20


Post by: Padre


So, thank you for the Robotech - Macross conversation...

How about any news re the NY Toy Fair?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 04:20:50


Post by: Ghaz


The Toy Fair doesn't even start until tomorrow so there's not really any news yet...


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 04:39:26


Post by: BrianDavion


Cronch wrote:

oweing more to BATTLEtech then ROBOtech

It's called Macross (or any of the other two animes HG butchered) thank you, Robotech is what happens when you need to syndicate enough episodes for US TV and have no shame


yes but then I can't compare and contrast two differant mech franchises that both have tech in their name


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 07:37:25


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Padre wrote:
So, thank you for the Robotech - Macross conversation...

How about any news re the NY Toy Fair?


Yes after 4 pages can we please withhold comments until there is actual news later today.

And do feel free to start a Macross/Robotech thread, I have DEEP THOUGHTS on the matter but this is not the time or place.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 10:33:00


Post by: Rogerio134134


Whoever mentioned the last warcry warband I think it's spot on. It fits this kind of event, it's a release alot of people want but it isn't a massive reveal on the grand scale of things.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 10:45:06


Post by: Dr. Mills


40k plushies... Yeah, I genuinely think they will sell well. And the best thing is, all the factions can be represented!

If they release a plush servo skull I'll be on it like a tramp on chips!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 10:59:09


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Long as I get a cuddly squig, I’ll be a happy nerd!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 13:24:58


Post by: GoatboyBeta


I dunno, a SoB plushie Cherub would be proper nightmare fuel


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 13:26:07


Post by: Fayric


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Long as I get a cuddly squig, I’ll be a happy nerd!


Fully agree, this should be anyones priority.
I think they had an obvious squig in the rumor engine recently.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 13:34:15


Post by: Unix


I’m guessing that a plastic thunderhawk will finally be revealed, and by plastic I mean LEGO.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 13:35:24


Post by: MajorWesJanson


 Dr. Mills wrote:
40k plushies... Yeah, I genuinely think they will sell well. And the best thing is, all the factions can be represented!

If they release a plush servo skull I'll be on it like a tramp on chips!


Squig, Nurgling, Servo Skull, Ripper.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 14:15:22


Post by: bubber


I'd love a nurgling plushie!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 14:17:05


Post by: MrFlutterPie


Sign me up for a Sassy Nurgling Plush


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 14:36:17


Post by: Kanluwen


Last minute predictions:
-Announcement of Space Marine Heroes wave 3(Death Guard) getting a domestic release.
-Announcement of a "Necromunda Lite" box available via Barnes & Noble. This follows in the vein of Blitz Bowl.
-Announcement of another "Combat Arena" style set, same availability.
-Announcement of another "Dreadfane" style set, with the Castigator easy to build set and Glaivewraiths.

--Just for Ghaz:
Funko Pops Wave!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 14:47:41


Post by: Ghaz


 Kanluwen wrote:
Last minute predictions:
-Announcement of Space Marine Heroes wave 3(Death Guard) getting a domestic release.
-Announcement of a "Necromunda Lite" box available via Barnes & Noble. This follows in the vein of Blitz Bowl.
-Announcement of another "Combat Arena" style set, same availability.
-Announcement of another "Dreadfane" style set, with the Castigator easy to build set and Glaivewraiths.

You forgot the next wave of Funko Pops...


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 14:49:55


Post by: Kanluwen


I didn't forget them, just figured it was a given.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:02:29


Post by: Voss


Oh, nice. The orks are so unimportant in 'Rise of the Orks' that they don't even get models.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of junk and an Underworlds warband.
Didn't they already do a black ork warband for Underworlds?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:05:05


Post by: Kanluwen


Voss wrote:
Oh, nice. The orks are so unimportant in 'Rise of the Orks' that they don't even get models.

This is how Labyrinth of the Necrons worked, I believe.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of junk.

It's Toy Fair.

What exactly were you expecting?


All that out of the way, I'm genuinely surprised they revealed the Ironjawz warband and the Avenger Strike Fighters here.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:05:48


Post by: Danny76


Action figures could be interesting.

All the boxes games to be expected (non specifically), and AI and Warcry etc


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:05:59


Post by: GaroRobe


Welp, I was right about the shadespire band. But the other reveals are eh.

Nice way to get the terminators tho, and probably easier to justify the price than the tactical marine game


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:06:00


Post by: Voss


It's Toy Fair.

What exactly were you expecting?

Junk. But they still lived down to my expectations.
Exceeded them in some ways. I'm used to all day teasers for these 'event day' reveals, so an unenthusiastic 'one and done' reveal makes it seem like GW doesn't care about this stuff either.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:06:21


Post by: JWBS


 Kanluwen wrote:
Voss wrote:
Oh, nice. The orks are so unimportant in 'Rise of the Orks' that they don't even get models.

This is how Labyrinth of the Necrons worked, I believe.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of junk.

It's Toy Fair.

What exactly were you expecting?


Some junk, I imagine, since he prefaced it with "Unsurprisingly".


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:07:14


Post by: alphaecho


Voss wrote:
Oh, nice. The orks are so unimportant in 'Rise of the Orks' that they don't even get models.

Unsurprisingly, a lot of junk and an Underworlds warband.
Didn't they already do a black ork warband for Underworlds?



Like the Necron game last year.

It's just a way to release the Heroes figures and provide a gateway to GW games. It's not a 40K starter box.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:16:38


Post by: Overread


Yeah I think a few people forget that the side/board games are not aimed at wargamers. That's why they use the same pushfit kits we see all the time in them; and why they can appear lackluster to wargamers. They are aimed at boardgamers and families and such - a related, but separate market.

Yet the main games did get some attention! A new Underworld Warband and some new planes for AN as well. Shame there wasn't any Warcry stuff such as the last warband, but at the same time I'd have expected a bit more build up for that to be honest.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:17:46


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


I promised myself a Cuddly Squig.

Where is my Cuddly Squig?

How dare GW not kowtow to my slightly childish whim! Utter ingrates!

Action Figures look cool though.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:20:51


Post by: Overread


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I promised myself a Cuddly Squig.

Where is my Cuddly Squig?

How dare GW not kowtow to my slightly childish whim! Utter ingrates!

Action Figures look cool though.


Doc I think we need a cuddly squig/ripper/gryphound thread of its own


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:24:44


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Kanluwen wrote:
Last minute predictions:
-Announcement of Space Marine Heroes wave 3(Death Guard) getting a domestic release.
-Announcement of a "Necromunda Lite" box available via Barnes & Noble. This follows in the vein of Blitz Bowl.
-Announcement of another "Combat Arena" style set, same availability.
-Announcement of another "Dreadfane" style set, with the Castigator easy to build set and Glaivewraiths.

--Just for Ghaz:
Funko Pops Wave!


Darn.

Now I really want Necro lite.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:27:31


Post by: GoatboyBeta


How are Mcfarlane figures these days? I haven't bought anything from them since there Halo Reach lines, and they did not impress me(parts snapped easily, accessories didn't fit properly and the figures gave off a really odd smell).


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:27:47


Post by: Tiberius501


I was under the impression that Ghaz was going to be shown off for some reason. I am disappointed now :C


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:38:45


Post by: Ghaz


 Tiberius501 wrote:
I was under the impression that Ghaz was going to be shown off for some reason. I am disappointed now :C

I wouldn't expect a big reveal like that for a small preview like the Toy Fair. We probably won't see much for 40K or AoS at GAMA so we'll have to wait for AdeptiCon if he's not been released before that.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:41:21


Post by: Cronch


Wow, it's nothing. Some more actionmens for 40k, I guess SM fans will have something to hotglue.

A warband for Underworlds, which is fine, and then just a bunch of throw-away boardgames only available at US retailers as usual.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:42:18


Post by: aka_mythos


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:
Last minute predictions:
-Announcement of Space Marine Heroes wave 3(Death Guard) getting a domestic release.
-Announcement of a "Necromunda Lite" box available via Barnes & Noble. This follows in the vein of Blitz Bowl.
-Announcement of another "Combat Arena" style set, same availability.
-Announcement of another "Dreadfane" style set, with the Castigator easy to build set and Glaivewraiths.

--Just for Ghaz:
Funko Pops Wave!


Darn.

Now I really want Necro lite.
I'm interested to see what that looks like. If its like blitz bowl Necro-narco Manager... har har... I would think the straight forward thing would be either a board like the inside of the Underhive set box for something that straight into the action... or a bunch of little 3x3 tiles you can use to build an approximation of the ZM tiles. I think the second one would do better to capture the feel. The stat lines will probably get traded out for 3 or 4 stats that are more straight forward to what you need to roll. I think what GW does for the miniatures in it will be really interesting to see. Its hard to imagine them dropping in any of the gang sprues with all their different tiny little bits into something thats really casual and entry level. So either its gonna be new instances of a gangs models as plug and play... or I could see them reusing, maybe on a new sprue layout, the Genestealer Cultists and Chaos Cultists from the different instances of those get push together models. If they wanted to do something with more immediate appeal to established Necromunda players, they could do a sprue of some distinct bounty hunters and hired guns and make it more of mini-game built around bounty hunting and escaping rather than trying to do full blown gang warfare with fewer and simpler models.


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Cronch wrote:
Wow, it's nothing. Some more actionmens for 40k, I guess SM fans will have something to hotglue.

A warband for Underworlds, which is fine, and then just a bunch of throw-away boardgames only available at US retailers as usual.
This is a US toy trade show... so it shouldn't be a surprise that they're presenting to that specific audience. Believe or not there are a bunch of people that enjoy those boardgames; for example there are a lot of people that enjoy Blitz Bowl over Blood Bowl. GW's main interest in going to this kind of event is broadening the appeal of their products and getting those products into stores that aren't in their traditional sales stream. Barnes and Noble or Target buy one of these games to sell in those stores and GW in a single day will have sold 10,000 units of a game to each. That's comparable to the initial global volume of certain sets they have made for their main games and represents less risk since they don't have to worry as much about a product not selling well enough.

The fact they come off as a throw away game is because they simply aren't targeted at you or many of use here. Those games ultimately sell to a different customer base so while they might end up being throw aways for anyone already in the hobby, they're the sort of games that can get new people into the hobby. That kind of introductory product to grow gaming communities is something alot of people ask for.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 15:59:13


Post by: Cronch


I'm not complaining these repack-games exist, GW can do whatever it wants with it's time. I'm complaining they're wasting my time with announcing those as a BIG NEWS EVENT WOW! thing when it's really not relevant to their core audience at all. No one that regularly goes to their community page will be excited about repacked castigators vs chainrasps in a box. It's the opposite of hype generation.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:05:36


Post by: akai


I was expecting they would be making board games with minis to resemble the kids in their 40K and Age of Sigmar children books. That would, imo, be a great to introduce their settings to a wider audience...but I guess that means investing into making new models. Maybe next year...the nephews/nieces seem to enjoy the books and was excited to see board game with necrons (and the space marines, but they did not make much of an appearance in book 1).


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:05:55


Post by: Overread


Cronch wrote:
I'm not complaining these repack-games exist, GW can do whatever it wants with it's time. I'm complaining they're wasting my time with announcing those as a BIG NEWS EVENT WOW! thing when it's really not relevant to their core audience at all. No one that regularly goes to their community page will be excited about repacked castigators vs chainrasps in a box. It's the opposite of hype generation.


What about the AN and Underworld releases and likely the space marine poseable toys too (remembering how big their marine market is). That IS of interest to their core markets. Sure not ALL of them and sure this isn't a new edition or the start of a wave of every race getting new models; but it is news.

Plus its silly to complain that the marketing is overhyping when all they say is "BIG NEWS" and when they've done it (and when most companies have done it) for years and years. I think if you get over-excited then its on the individual.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:06:14


Post by: Eiríkr


Hmm, I too was under the impression that Ghaz was supposed to be unveiled with this announcement. I'm sure the last Makari post had some suggestion of it.

Oh well!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:09:44


Post by: aka_mythos


Cronch wrote:
I'm not complaining these repack-games exist, GW can do whatever it wants with it's time. I'm complaining they're wasting my time with announcing those as a BIG NEWS EVENT WOW! thing when it's really not relevant to their core audience at all. No one that regularly goes to their community page will be excited about repacked castigators vs chainrasps in a box. It's the opposite of hype generation.
Think of it this way, this trade show is a big advertisement to retailers. Those representatives of those companies will go online and search for whatever GW"s putting out to gauge how important it is to GW, whether GW does anything to promote these. IF GW does nothing and doesn't show these things off these companies are less likely to get excited and buy significant volumes of these products. Again this is news because its related to our hobby but we aren't the main target.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:09:50


Post by: ImAGeek


 Eiríkr wrote:
Hmm, I too was under the impression that Ghaz was supposed to be unveiled with this announcement. I'm sure the last Makari post had some suggestion of it.

Oh well!


Nothing in the last Makari post gives that impression.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:11:52


Post by: Sabotage!


Surprised that we got an Underworlds and a Imperalis preview, that’s kind of cool.

But holy cow! Blitz Bowl season 2! Count me in! Here’s hoping for some more teams and maybe some sort of basic league play. Blitz Bowl is a fantastic game and it’s awesome to see it get some support.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:15:46


Post by: akai


 Sabotage! wrote:
Surprised that we got an Underworlds and a Imperalis preview, that’s kind of cool.

But holy cow! Blitz Bowl season 2! Count me in! Here’s hoping for some more teams and maybe some sort of basic league play. Blitz Bowl is a fantastic game and it’s awesome to see it get some support.


Looks like humans again (same sculpt?) and dwarfs.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:29:40


Post by: Sabotage!


 akai wrote:
 Sabotage! wrote:
Surprised that we got an Underworlds and a Imperalis preview, that’s kind of cool.

But holy cow! Blitz Bowl season 2! Count me in! Here’s hoping for some more teams and maybe some sort of basic league play. Blitz Bowl is a fantastic game and it’s awesome to see it get some support.


Looks like humans again (same sculpt?) and dwarfs.


Yep, which already have rules. The original game came with team cards for 6 or 7 other teams too, so I’m hoping we have some rules in the game for other teams without them (Lizardmen, Wood Elves, etc.).


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:38:14


Post by: Segersgia


I hope that them saying that space marines won’t be the sole available figures means we actually will get to see some interesting action figures from other factions, like a guardsman or a Necron...

... and not a stormcast.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 16:57:28


Post by: JSG


Meh. I was hoping they'd say the DG blind buys would be getting a world wide release soon.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 17:04:28


Post by: Coenus Scaldingus


 Segersgia wrote:
I hope that them saying that space marines won’t be the sole available figures means we actually will get to see some interesting action figures from other factions, like a guardsman or a Necron...

... and not a stormcast.

Although I doubt I'll purchase any of these, that sentence was indeed one of the more interesting bits in the reveal - yet another Space Marine [something] is hardly inspired, but whatever else they consider to be worthwhile could indicate future directions of all the other licensed products (the Bandai large kit and chibis, etcetera).

No real expectations for reveals beyond that, which looks to have been for the best. Guess the boardgames with recycled minis could occasionally be a good source for them; wonder how many of them actually are sold to people who aren't already hobbyists.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 17:09:57


Post by: Kurgash


Those brutes look great. Now I want giant spiked club units for Ironjawz. Probably will have Ironsunz keyword.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 17:29:04


Post by: porkuslime


 Sabotage! wrote:
 akai wrote:
 Sabotage! wrote:
Surprised that we got an Underworlds and a Imperalis preview, that’s kind of cool.

But holy cow! Blitz Bowl season 2! Count me in! Here’s hoping for some more teams and maybe some sort of basic league play. Blitz Bowl is a fantastic game and it’s awesome to see it get some support.


Looks like humans again (same sculpt?) and dwarfs.


Yep, which already have rules. The original game came with team cards for 6 or 7 other teams too, so I’m hoping we have some rules in the game for other teams without them (Lizardmen, Wood Elves, etc.).


I am in the same boat.. have original Blitz Bowl and managed to trade for all the teams off an on.. not really interested in rebuying a starter set. Would have to be great astounding etc for that to happen


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 17:48:32


Post by: Inquisitor Gideon


 Segersgia wrote:
I hope that them saying that space marines won’t be the sole available figures means we actually will get to see some interesting action figures from other factions, like a guardsman or a Necron...

... and not a stormcast.


I'd rather enjoy a Sacrosanct Stormcast personally. And a Sister of Battle.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 18:21:49


Post by: Ghaz


 Sabotage! wrote:
Surprised that we got an Underworlds and a Imperalis preview, that’s kind of cool.

Could be like the Wurmspat preview at LVO, where they were announced as going on pre-order the following weekend. Maybe these two items will be released before GAMA?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 18:30:54


Post by: Jidmah


Voss wrote:
Oh, nice. The orks are so unimportant in 'Rise of the Orks' that they don't even get models.

I remember playing a game very similar to that, except it was dwarfs defending themselves from daemons I think.

Might just be a reskin of that game?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 18:36:35


Post by: Blooddragon1981


You have to wonder why GW hasn't yet made a deal with Lego to release their franchise.
I would love to buy some 40K sets of Marines etc.
Fingers crossed that will happen eventually.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 18:40:36


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Blooddragon1981 wrote:
You have to wonder why GW hasn't yet made a deal with Lego to release their franchise.
I would love to buy some 40K sets of Marines etc.
Fingers crossed that will happen eventually.


Lego has Star Wars and Disney and currently the largest toy maker in the world. They also have (an increasingly eroded but still there) ethos against violent toys. So they don't need or want GW.

Various Not-Legos like Mega Blocks or a seemingly infinite number of Chinese makers whoever, well they're not wiating for a GW license.



New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 18:44:59


Post by: Blooddragon1981


 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
 Blooddragon1981 wrote:
You have to wonder why GW hasn't yet made a deal with Lego to release their franchise.
I would love to buy some 40K sets of Marines etc.
Fingers crossed that will happen eventually.


Lego has Star Wars and Disney and currently the largest toy maker in the world. They also have (an increasingly eroded but still there) ethos against violent toys. So they don't need or want GW.

Various Not-Legos like Mega Blocks or a seemingly infinite number of Chinese makers whoever, well they're not wiating for a GW license.



Yeah, seen them. They look crap tbh. I do not want some cheap old dodgy Chinese fakes.
Besides I think that Lego could easily make GW models look 'acceptable' for most, especially children. Also stuff from Star Wars, Marvel or DC isn't necessary so 'innocent'


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 19:26:20


Post by: Dysartes


 xttz wrote:
Whatever GW actually unveils on Saturday won't be as good as Settlers of Catachan

I think we can safely say that xttz wins the prediction contest!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 19:40:20


Post by: Cronch


Besides I think that Lego could easily make GW models look 'acceptable' for most, especially children

That's the last thing we need. There's already too many actual grownups who think the Imperium are the good guys, we don't need kids to fall into imperial fanboy hands.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 20:03:44


Post by: Overread


Cronch wrote:
Besides I think that Lego could easily make GW models look 'acceptable' for most, especially children

That's the last thing we need. There's already too many actual grownups who think the Imperium are the good guys, we don't need kids to fall into imperial fanboy hands.


In the name of the Emperor - Burn the heretic! Before his foul lies spread further discontent within the ranks!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 20:08:20


Post by: JohnnyHell


So Crypt Hunters looks to me like a Lost Patrol reskin...


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 20:24:37


Post by: shadowsfm


what i don't understand is why McFarlane's space marine has to be a miniature clone of the bundai one, when it could have been anything else, even a repaint. i kinda predicted in my head that i will be able to have spawn fight a space marine. 500 pounds of necroplasm vs 2000 pounds of ceramite


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 21:19:37


Post by: Zywus


Unix wrote:I’m guessing that a plastic thunderhawk will finally be revealed, and by plastic I mean LEGO.

Just rummage through your old lego hoard and put one together. That's kinda the point of LEGO's

Spoiler:


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 21:46:15


Post by: Knockagh


I loved mcfarlanes conan the barbarian line. They were more mini statues than action figures but that suited me much better. I predict an Eisenhorn figure and I predict it will be gorgeous


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 22:08:51


Post by: SamusDrake


Crypt Hunters looks great but alas tis for our friends across the pond. Have fun guys!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/22 23:28:57


Post by: lord_blackfang


Meh-ing at the speed of light.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 00:06:57


Post by: Platuan4th


 Knockagh wrote:
I loved mcfarlanes conan the barbarian line. They were more mini statues than action figures but that suited me much better. I predict an Eisenhorn figure and I predict it will be gorgeous


Yeah, that's why I was disappointed to see McFarlane attached to this. The stuff looks great in a single pose, which defeats the entire purpose of having articulation in the first place, or like the Halo line, looks great but the joints are so tight and the sculpting so exacting that the articulation just isn't usable for any sort of actual natural looking pose. MacFarlane's stuff is just too reliant on aesthetics instead of making an actual good figure. If I can't put my Marines and Orks in silly poses while displayed fighting my Marvel Legends, Star Wars Black Series, and Mortal Kombat figures, they aren't getting my money.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 01:20:18


Post by: Unix


 Zywus wrote:
Unix wrote:I’m guessing that a plastic thunderhawk will finally be revealed, and by plastic I mean LEGO.

Just rummage through your old lego hoard and put one together. That's kinda the point of LEGO's

Spoiler:


I was more going for the joke that GW would be trolling people by technically providing something that has been rumored for more than a decade at this point. It was kind of like when they did plastic sisters a few years back, and it was the sisters of silence.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 06:59:29


Post by: Kid_Kyoto


 Zywus wrote:
Unix wrote:I’m guessing that a plastic thunderhawk will finally be revealed, and by plastic I mean LEGO.

Just rummage through your old lego hoard and put one together. That's kinda the point of LEGO's

Spoiler:


I want to give you so many exaults


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 08:48:12


Post by: An Actual Englishman


The information from this toy fair was so lame I'd barely call it news. More action figures because for some reason having one Intercessor at that scale isn't enough and expensive repackaging of the SM Heroes line for US customers only. Riveting.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 09:18:58


Post by: Jidmah


I hope they'll do an ork action figure. I'd just base it and use it as gorkanaut


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 09:53:54


Post by: Cronch


 An Actual Englishman wrote:
The information from this toy fair was so lame I'd barely call it news. More action figures because for some reason having one Intercessor at that scale isn't enough and expensive repackaging of the SM Heroes line for US customers only. Riveting.

musn't grumble, my man, it made some execs excited so it was IMPORTANT NEWS.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 15:11:26


Post by: donaldhuman


Not sure if this warrants its own thread, but Space Marine Adventures is apparently now available at Target as well. 20% off this week too if anyone is interested in picking it up.
https://www.target.com/p/space-marine-adventures-board-game/-/A-76151598


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 15:26:14


Post by: Jidmah


ignore this


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 15:40:29


Post by: Knockagh


 Platuan4th wrote:
 Knockagh wrote:
I loved mcfarlanes conan the barbarian line. They were more mini statues than action figures but that suited me much better. I predict an Eisenhorn figure and I predict it will be gorgeous


Yeah, that's why I was disappointed to see McFarlane attached to this. The stuff looks great in a single pose, which defeats the entire purpose of having articulation in the first place, or like the Halo line, looks great but the joints are so tight and the sculpting so exacting that the articulation just isn't usable for any sort of actual natural looking pose. MacFarlane's stuff is just too reliant on aesthetics instead of making an actual good figure. If I can't put my Marines and Orks in silly poses while displayed fighting my Marvel Legends, Star Wars Black Series, and Mortal Kombat figures, they aren't getting my money.


It depends what your after. I’m 42 and articulated toys are not really going to rock my boat. On the other hand a nice statue for a hobby room is perfect. toys that have to many joints never look right to me too many joints.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 15:43:59


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Depends how they’re set up.

With an Astartes, the many joints are easily hidden by the armour. So one can enjoy amazing articulation, without nobblybobblies ruining the line of the figure.

Me? Much as I like Space Maureens, I wouldn’t normally plump for this, as I’d rather say, a Howling Bumshee.

But for the what, £20ish this will likely cost (looking at its market contemporaries) I’ll take one for the team, to help prove the line’s market appeal


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 17:25:53


Post by: Saturmorn Carvilli


I know I am shocked that Games Workshop at the 2020 Toy Fair is just revealing board games and action figures. I mean 2019 gave us board games, Funko Pops and Space Marine Heroes Season 2. While 2018 gave us Bloodbowl Blitz and Space Marine Adventures.

I was sure given that track record that GW was going to announce 9th edition 40k, the complete update to all resin models to plastic, a special hero model for every subfaction (including custom/build-a-subfactions) and a plastic thunderhawk. Oh, and they were dropping the price of all models my at least half. I totally didn't set myself up for disappointment thinking any kind of major reveal was going to happen. I guess nothing worthwhile is coming out 2020. I mean the New York Toy Fair would be the venue that all important reveals would happen for the year right?

Ya know, writing it out; maybe I was expecting to much for the toy fair. Scratch the plastic thunderhawk off my list.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 19:03:44


Post by: Racerguy180


Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Depends how they’re set up.

With an Astartes, the many joints are easily hidden by the armour. So one can enjoy amazing articulation, without nobblybobblies ruining the line of the figure.

Me? Much as I like Space Maureens, I wouldn’t normally plump for this, as I’d rather say, a Howling Bumshee.

But for the what, £20ish this will likely cost (looking at its market contemporaries) I’ll take one for the team, to help prove the line’s market appeal


I'm down for the Intercessor, even more if you can make a sgt. The fact they specifically stated there will be more than just Astartes makes me really happy. An Ork Boy, Gaunt, Heretic Astartes...if they just make the basic troop for each faction, Im feeling like stop-motion fun is ahead.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 19:06:21


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


Just thinking about the joints and that.

Barbie dolls have internal joints, covered over by the doll’s ‘skin’.

With no engineering knowledge whatsoever, I’m guessing there are either design reasons, or financial reasons others don’t do that?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 19:13:27


Post by: Racerguy180


they could do it but then they couldnt offer the paint your own. Barbies "skin" wouldnt take paint very well (I think its silicon). Most adult toys (get it) rely on specific range of motion posing, Barbie has a rather limited ROM at the knee and the leg is separate from the torso/pelvis.

I'm guessing the whole thing is predicated on having 2 versions to minimize production costs as much as possible.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 20:25:28


Post by: ekwatts


Is it confirmed that the McFarlane marine is the same height as the Bandai one? I thought there'd be a difference of at least a few inches between them?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:01:30


Post by: shadowsfm




i know the chibi are 2 inches, going by this image that makes the bundai 7 inches. mcfarlane toys are generally 7 inches also, so it is possible


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:08:31


Post by: Racerguy180


that's fething dope


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:12:28


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 ekwatts wrote:
Is it confirmed that the McFarlane marine is the same height as the Bandai one? I thought there'd be a difference of at least a few inches between them?


WILD SPECULATION MODE ENGAGE. I HAVE NO INSIDER KNOWLEDGE. THIS IS NOT NEWS NOR RUMOUR.

Wondering if the relationship between GW and Bandai May have gone a bit wrong, hence MacFarlane giving it a whirl?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:14:57


Post by: shadowsfm


both figures are more or less coming out at the same time, so they must have been approached at the same time. doesn't it take 2 years of development to produce a finished action figure?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:25:40


Post by: Agamemnon2


I really don't understand why they're coming out with two action figures of the same subject in the same scale at the same time.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:28:59


Post by: shadowsfm


that's what i said


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:29:20


Post by: Thargrim


I just wish they'd do an action figure that is a blood angel or dark angel. I don't really feel like spending the time painting my own, since it's not a game piece. But man they always have to go straight for the ultramarines and it beyond getting old.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:29:48


Post by: Overread


It's most likely GW doing the same licence scattershot that they've done with computer games. To GW it doesn't actually "matter" that two toy companies are making marines because its not competing with GW's core market of models. As long as GW is concerned so long as both companies are happy and pay their licence fees everyone wins.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:30:26


Post by: Nevelon


 Agamemnon2 wrote:
I really don't understand why they're coming out with two action figures of the same subject in the same scale at the same time.


So they can fight to the death. Only the strong survive!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 21:33:28


Post by: shadowsfm


or join forces. they will look great back to back


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 22:12:08


Post by: OrlandotheTechnicoloured


or it's simply bandai is more focused on Japan where the Todster is focused on the US (and to a lesser extent Europe)?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 22:25:17


Post by: Platuan4th


 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
or it's simply bandai is more focused on Japan where the Todster is focused on the US (and to a lesser extent Europe)?


This. There's also the fact Bandai Spirits aim at the high end collectibles market vs McFarlane aiming at mass market. Basically, it's the same situation of Bandai and Hasbro both having the Marvel license and producing figures at the same size but the difference in quality between $80-120 Figuarts and $20 Marvel Legends is huge.

Well the same except that Marvel Legends are good toys vs McFarlane.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 22:32:39


Post by: shadowsfm


 ekwatts wrote:
Is it confirmed that the McFarlane marine is the same height as the Bandai one? I thought there'd be a difference of at least a few inches between them?


this says the bandai is 8 inches

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/25/meet-the-new-primaris-intercessor-action-figuregw-homepage-post-4/


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 22:35:43


Post by: Platuan4th


shadowsfm wrote:
 ekwatts wrote:
Is it confirmed that the McFarlane marine is the same height as the Bandai one? I thought there'd be a difference of at least a few inches between them?


this says the bandai is 8 inches

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/25/meet-the-new-primaris-intercessor-action-figuregw-homepage-post-4/


Yup, by all accounts it's the same size as their Figuarts Thanos, who is a good 8" tall and is a chunky heft of plastic mass.



Spidey and Strange here are about the size of McFarlane's usual human figures, maybe slightly shorter. That said, McFarlane attempts to scale the figures to their in universe sizes in relation to base humans. I say attempt because their Elites were shorter than they should be(still a noticable size difference), though.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 22:39:17


Post by: shadowsfm


spidy looks 6 inches rather than mcfarlane's 7 inches . the 8 inch space marine will need to be put in a dramatic pose next to the 7 inch marine to get it to look right


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/23 22:45:20


Post by: Platuan4th


shadowsfm wrote:
spidy looks 6 inches rather than mcfarlane's 7 inches . the 8 inch space marine will need to be put in a dramatic pose next to the 7 inch marine to get it to look right


Funny enough, Spidey actually IS shorter because y'know, Tom Holland.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 07:58:12


Post by: H.B.M.C.


Why is Dr. Strange wearing a picnic rug?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 10:09:31


Post by: ekwatts


Also as far as I am aware (I've not bought action figures for a very long time), the Bandai and McFarlane figures will be hugely different in terms of material and poseability. Hence the price difference as well as the two different representations.

McFarlanes are just slightly fancier GI Joes scaled up with a more vinyl-like plastic used that has a slight bend to it, while the Bandai will be a more solid poly or ABS type of plastic. The McFarlanes will have traditional action figure joints while the Bandai will potentially have revolving joints that are much nicer. You might even find that elements like the greaves and shoulder pads have their own joint systems to allow them to articulate outwards and inwards to allow more motion for the joints around them. MAYBE. I dunno. I'm making assumptions based on decades old experience with these kinds of items (last figures I bought were a bunch of Revoltech Patlabor mechas which were fantastic).


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 10:11:26


Post by: The Phazer


I have to be honest, even aside from the materials, I just think the Mcfarlane toy looks off. The helmet isn't quite right, the gorget is too low, and the bolt rifle is too large.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 10:18:34


Post by: ShortyPreds


Thats the most illegal terminator 5 man Squad configuration you get with that new Boardgame...3 heavy weapons...


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 11:03:13


Post by: shadowsfm


shadowsfm wrote:
 ekwatts wrote:
Is it confirmed that the McFarlane marine is the same height as the Bandai one? I thought there'd be a difference of at least a few inches between them?


this says the bandai is 8 inches

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/09/25/meet-the-new-primaris-intercessor-action-figuregw-homepage-post-4/


while this article contradicts and says 7 inches,

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/10/bandai-and-warhammer4-our-powers-combinedgw-homepage-post-2/


speaking of joints, i see they had to pull the shoulder socket out of the bandai to get this arm angle



New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 11:25:27


Post by: Kinetochore


Yeah not great advertising

"look at this great pose you can get if you rip an arm out of its socket"


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 13:06:57


Post by: ekwatts


If it's anything like the larger Revoltech figures I've seen, it isn't "popped out", it possibly has a number of reticulating/concertina'd joints that will allow it move that far naturally. But that area is too dark for me to tell.

That and the joints are probably made to be able to be "popped" out anyway. You will conceivably be able to completely disassemble all of the major parts of the figure.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 16:36:06


Post by: Platuan4th


Yeah, it's not popped out of socket, there's a number of different hinges there on an armature to give you more motion and posing than mass retail stuff. I was trying to get a picture of the same joint in one of my other Figuarts figures, but they all have a piece of plastic that moves with the armature to fill in that hole. Hopefully the retail version of the Primaris had a similar filler added since that proto was shown.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 17:46:16


Post by: Racerguy180


 ShortyPreds wrote:
Thats the most illegal terminator 5 man Squad configuration you get with that new Boardgame...3 heavy weapons...


It's not illegal for the game its intended for.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 18:11:01


Post by: Barzam


One of the key differences I'm seeing between the Bandai Marine and Mcfarlane's is that Mcfarlane's doesn't appear to have mu articulation, whereas Bandai's is chock full of joints. The major difference between the two will be the price, though. I hope the Mcfarlane figure was just a proof of concept mockup, because it really looked like a glorified statue. Releasing an unpainted version is a bold move thiugh.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 18:18:05


Post by: highlord tamburlaine


McFarlane releasing an unpainted figure is an interesting step.

Considering how the joints on their figures have disappeared so much I'd almost be curious to see them try their hand at gaming scale figures.

Would be kind of neat.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 18:24:22


Post by: Easy E


Avengers for AI.... that's sweet.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 20:37:33


Post by: VictorVonTzeentch


So with the McFarlane 40k Figures will we get a Spawn/40k Cross over and have Astartes Spawn?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 20:43:03


Post by: Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl


Spawntartes!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 21:38:02


Post by: shadowsfm





i'm looking at this video and seeing how possible spawn is and wondering if that is an indicator on what we will see in the space marine and the rest of the future 40k figures. i feel someone walking over my grave. i think the toy devs and GW are watching our reaction of their work


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/24 22:29:57


Post by: parakuribo


I'm actually more worried about how good the marine's joints are, given how hit or miss their series are. I have Jorge(Halo) and Ryoko(Tenchi Muyo!) among a few other McFarlane(sealed) figs in the past. Both figs were used and missing a few accessories, but they both lasted longer than the new figs when I tried to pose them, and I guarantee they will last longer than TM Toys' deal with GW if they don't take their time with it.

On another note, did anyone mention if Blitzbowl will have cards for the newer teams(W.Elves, Nurgle, etc)?


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/25 11:29:20


Post by: shadowsfm





wow! todd is a great salesman. he could get me to buy anything. as i listen to him in this video, i imagine how everything he says could be applied to his 40k line.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/25 12:58:25


Post by: Mad Doc Grotsnik


 VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
So with the McFarlane 40k Figures will we get a Spawn/40k Cross over and have Astartes Spawn?


What, Legion of the Damned.


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Many promises being made about the scale of reveals for Adepticon....

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/25/five-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-adepticon-warhammer-previewgw-homepage-post-2fw-homepage-post-2/

It's a month out, so waaaaaay too early for a master info dump thread of it's own!


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/25 14:57:51


Post by: Ghaz


 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Many promises being made about the scale of reveals for Adepticon....

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/25/five-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-adepticon-warhammer-previewgw-homepage-post-2fw-homepage-post-2/

It's a month out, so waaaaaay too early for a master info dump thread of it's own!

Looks familiar...

https://www.adepticon.org/2020/01/24/five-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-warhammer-preview/


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/27 09:11:33


Post by: jullevi


 parakuribo wrote:
On another note, did anyone mention if Blitzbowl will have cards for the newer teams(W.Elves, Nurgle, etc)?


Original Blitzbowl had team cards for multiple teams. I hope that the new one has cards for the remaining teams although I am not confident because many teams have individual boxes now. But it would certainly be helpful for international customers if they didn't have to purchase team boxes separately.


New York Toy Fair reveals 2020 - 22 Feb @ 2020/02/27 11:13:25


Post by: zamerion


 Ghaz wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Many promises being made about the scale of reveals for Adepticon....

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/02/25/five-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-adepticon-warhammer-previewgw-homepage-post-2fw-homepage-post-2/

It's a month out, so waaaaaay too early for a master info dump thread of it's own!

Looks familiar...

https://www.adepticon.org/2020/01/24/five-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-warhammer-preview/
. Gama expo is at the beginning of March. I guess we'll see plastic kits news from forgeworld: blood bowl, titanicus, necromunda...