Warcry will be interesting- I wasnt expecting any news until after the scions of the flame get released. I wonder if they will be pushed out not long after covid19 finally peters out
So this is part 3 of the adepticon preview. My guess is that they will save part 4 for the warhammerfest slot then show those previews later. This all goes to say don’t expect too much from this reveal, especially if you are a 40k player. It seems likely that they intended to reveal 9th edition at Adepticon but they want to delay that reveal until they know when they will be able to start shipping products again.
I wont be surprised to see killteam take a page from warcry in terms of having sets of unique interesting sculpts for dedicated sets of minis to be a kill team in the future.
Carlovonsexron wrote: I wont be surprised to see killteam take a page from warcry in terms of having sets of unique interesting sculpts for dedicated sets of minis to be a kill team in the future.
Why would I want that when I could make My Guys? They already kind of did that with the Starstriders and Gellerpox, too.
Chikout wrote: So this is part 3 of the adepticon preview. My guess is that they will save part 4 for the warhammerfest slot then show those previews later. This all goes to say don’t expect too much from this reveal, especially if you are a 40k player. It seems likely that they intended to reveal 9th edition at Adepticon but they want to delay that reveal until they know when they will be able to start shipping products again.
Is there a *purpose* to spreading this conspiracy theory? A new edition wouldn’t even be particularly big news outside the box set that comes with it, we get tri-yearly balance patches as is, and I can’t fathom them doing a major from-scratch rules reboot any time this decade.
When someone said that on social media, GWs reply was "wait and see" to me that is a non answer.
I am just afraid they have decided to roll Kill team into the new edition of 40k and the last thing we will get is the 2019 annual and
the random white dwarf articles until its release.
Curious to see what we get for the horus heresy. We've seen the Lion and two dark angels special units, along with a previewed new night lords unit. Maybe we'll see the night lords as actual physical painted models.
Once again, hoping for something on the new fw Indexes, but not expecting anything. Don't want to set myself up for disappointment.
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jojo_monkey_boy wrote: Curious to see what we get for the horus heresy. We've seen the Lion and two dark angels special units, along with a previewed new night lords unit. Maybe we'll see the night lords as actual physical painted models.
phillv85 wrote: Where have the 9th edition rumours come from? I’ve not seen anything from the usual suspects.
Gimme a chance, I was having me Tea!
Given that run down? I’m not expecting 9th for this one, as I suspect that’d be a whole reveal unto itself.
AoS is almost certainly showing off the new Gargants.
BSF? Well, the great joy here is that it could be anything40k. Old, new, reimagined, anything. I’m personally hoping for a new batch of non-human Adventurers. Possibly of ‘all new’ species.
Warcry? New boxed set I reckon. Possibly pushing into a ‘Season 2” type thing, now all the original warbands have been revealed, if not white released
phillv85 wrote: Where have the 9th edition rumours come from? I’ve not seen anything from the usual suspects.
Well, a guy wishlisted it, and then another guy read it and it became a rumor, and then more people did the same, and then it became an expectation where people will be upset if it doesn't happen. So all GW's fault, basically.
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Malika2 wrote: No Titanicus? That makes me sad! But I'm still very curious about the rest of the stuff!
Yeah...boo. But I think we got our near-term previews in already. The next book kinda came out of nowhere and seems like it might be more of a quickie release compared to S&I (which still needs Ursus claws, various transfer sheets, strat cards, etc). The Kado book figures to be more impactful with corrupted Titans. I'm eagerly awaiting the Rapier (another Titan I can legally field as an Audax player, whee!), but I'm not expecting it until later this year at the earliest. Maybe next year thanks to the bug.
It's not like I'm really playing these days anyway.
So, y'all think its a safe bet we'll see Sons of Behemet finally revealed? Tease up with namedrops and an animated trailer, then reveal them in all their glory?
The article on the Sons of Behemet points out that they're on the horizon AND there's a GW reveal weekend in a few days.
Dysartes wrote: Confirming which games are getting news in advance is an improvement, I'll give them that.
Aye, it will at least cut down on the complaints from people whose preferred game doesn't get a preview. Though many still will, as reading the announcement will prove to difficult, as usual.
Dysartes wrote: Confirming which games are getting news in advance is an improvement, I'll give them that.
Eh. The actual previews are less than 48 hours away from the announcement of the systems to be previewed. If folks couldn't guess half of them already, I don't really know what to tell them.
Malika2 wrote: No Titanicus? That makes me sad! But I'm still very curious about the rest of the stuff!
Titanicus could fall under the Horus Heresy banner.
So could 40k pretty much.. ..
The 9th ed rumours came from the French lads- we'll see..
Looking forward to the previews, not expecting anything of specific interest to me but always nice to see what's coming for other folks..
I'm glad they are saving a few things for later with the way the lockdown is..
Looking forward to the previews, not expecting anything of specific interest to me but always nice to see what's coming for other folks..
I'm glad they are saving a few things for later with the way the lockdown is..
Amen to that! I was looking forward to new giants though the artwork doing the rounds (that I'd previously missed) definitely points to a continuation of that gangly, pot bellied look that I'm not a big fan of. A new Warcry reveal could be a treat though, absolutely love the aesthetics to that game. Wave after wave of awesome sculpts, be it warparty or monster. Bring it on!
Carlovonsexron wrote: I wont be surprised to see killteam take a page from warcry in terms of having sets of unique interesting sculpts for dedicated sets of minis to be a kill team in the future.
I would. Killteam is the "zero investment" game from GW, where they make rules and almost nothing else. All the minis already exist, so the outlay for additional products is very small. The only exception to this seems to have bee Rogue Trader.
I'm now actually starting to believe what a GW friend told me, they would not preview any more Aeronautica Tau until later on, until just before the shops re-open. Skies of Fire and associated kits, dice etc are all ready made, ready waiting for release. It may not just be a matter of stores re-opening though as the distribution may be delayed too.
Carlovonsexron wrote: I wont be surprised to see killteam take a page from warcry in terms of having sets of unique interesting sculpts for dedicated sets of minis to be a kill team in the future.
Why would I want that when I could make My Guys? They already kind of did that with the Starstriders and Gellerpox, too.
Kill Team is dead. I’m pretty sure we will be getting roughly 6 WD articles a year and an annual and that’s it for support. Planning on selling my stuff off after Covid mellows out of no second edition or major change is announced , I’m all for continuing on with dead games (Mordheim), but KT isn’t even that fun. GW really missed a huge opportunity with it.
Killteam isn't a game its an introduction mode that has been in the core rules for decades, but which now has its own product placements. The key is that its designed to lead you into 40K or provide a side game to it. GW doesn't seem keen to create it into its own game on its own. Even Warcry has limits - almost all the unique models for it belong to one single faction in AoS (slaves to darkness); whilst its terrain packs are just regular AoS terrain with the deployment cards.
Again its a very low investment game; the only twist is that the chaos warbands all fit into one army; meanwhile all the other races in the game have to buy generic regular infantry boxes to get involved- although GW has slowly started releasing some Warcry specific boxes with varied sculpts for some armies (potentially they might expand on this, though it would require new castings since warbands from other races use models from multiple infantry sets).
As for previews GW is in a tricky spot. On the one hand they want our attention to market and preview stuff; on the other their release schedual is shot to bits and they've NO fixed re-activation date; with the best current estimations being perhaps 3weeks (at best) to months to even a year floating around as the reactivation date. Ergo they've no idea when they are going to be able to even produce current stock let alone start bulking up for releases. And that's before we touch on international trade which is also, shot to bits. Both at the global distribution level and at the internal level within countries. Mail services are overloaded even if they are still working and reactivation won't mean that mail services will resume to full original capacity overnight.
GW also doesn't want to promise so much that they overpromise with things that might take too long to bring to market.
tneva82 wrote: Oi every preview doesnjt have to have multiple new editions and hundred(s) new models to be big unlike for some people in dakkadakka
This kind of no-content hit-post might make more sense if we didn't now know that the "massive biggest ever" previews are actually a single preview split into 4.
Now we do, so it makes no sense to complain about the small scale of these previews, and even less sense to attack those who complained before that was known.
I pretty exited to see some actual sons of behemat. The art they teased with has a gargant as large as a warlord titan, surely, it wont come to that, right?
Would be cool to get a big piece of scenery representing the "fallen giant template" from back in the day.
Thargrim wrote: Sure would be nice to get some news on that Blood Bowl 3 video game that was supposedly due out this year.
Eh, with those kinds of games I'm never interested because it's basically just a graphical overhaul that inevitably comes with fewer teams than the original+expansion packs.
I looked at BB2 and was like...well with BB2 I get 6 teams, and with Chaos Edition original BB I have like 15...
Overread wrote: Killteam isn't a game its an introduction mode that has been in the core rules for decades, but which now has its own product placements. The key is that its designed to lead you into 40K or provide a side game to it. GW doesn't seem keen to create it into its own game on its own. Even Warcry has limits - almost all the unique models for it belong to one single faction in AoS (slaves to darkness); whilst its terrain packs are just regular AoS terrain with the deployment cards.
Again its a very low investment game; the only twist is that the chaos warbands all fit into one army; meanwhile all the other races in the game have to buy generic regular infantry boxes to get involved- although GW has slowly started releasing some Warcry specific boxes with varied sculpts for some armies (potentially they might expand on this, though it would require new castings since warbands from other races use models from multiple infantry sets).
I agree that their intention was primarily to great a "low barrier" system to nudge people into 40K rather than a system in its own right, but I think they went about that poorly, because KT certainly gives the impression of a system that should be considered in its own right given all the extra mechanics and doodads.
Honestly I just don't understand why GW won't simply adopt something along the lines of the Strike Force rules from the Heresy, which are essentially just new rules for army selection, half a page of extra rules about models acting individually and forming ad-hoc squads, and a loose campaign system with a few scenarios, otherwise using the base rules of the game. Maybe they think 8th is simply too "killy" to go down to such small game sizes without a ton of extra stuff and rebalancing(it's arguably true, afterall)? Maybe it's just Studio ego? Who knows, but regardless they need to "pick a lane"; if they produce a system that has loads of unique mechanics and addons and card packs and all that guff, people expect it to be a properly supported system in its own right because it requires them to invest time & money, and if they want something that's only intended to give people something to do with their first purchases while the 40K army GWactually wants them to buy gets built, it needs to be something simple and low-investment. The problem with KT is they tried to double-dip.
Carlovonsexron wrote: Warcry will be interesting- I wasnt expecting any news until after the scions of the flame get released. I wonder if they will be pushed out not long after covid19 finally peters out
Carlovonsexron wrote: I wont be surprised to see killteam take a page from warcry in terms of having sets of unique interesting sculpts for dedicated sets of minis to be a kill team in the future.
I would. Killteam is the "zero investment" game from GW, where they make rules and almost nothing else. All the minis already exist, so the outlay for additional products is very small. The only exception to this seems to have bee Rogue Trader.
I have been saying this from the very beginning:
No dedicated models for Kill Team, no business from me. They would also need to bring the rules at least to the level of Necromunda.
The first online preview was rather lame because all the new models were leaked in advance. Second one was much more enjoyable because I avoided Dakka for 48 hours before the event. See you tomorrow after the show!
Gosh... I already pity the presenters tomorrow. GW is (again) riding the hype train and those poor bastards will have to face the backlash. Is it really that hard to learn from the last two sessions to dial it down a notch?
SKR.HH wrote: Gosh... I already pity the presenters tomorrow. GW is (again) riding the hype train and those poor bastards will have to face the backlash. Is it really that hard to learn from the last two sessions to dial it down a notch?
I kinda forgot they even had presenters. I normally just read the article after they're done with all the previews. Especially after the 1st preview when there was so much dead air. I'd imagine any presentation from the community team will make me cringe hard watching either way, since I have trouble with just their Youtube vids.
I mean, the first one was a bit of a let down but the second was pretty solid. Even then as was pointed out any one of these reveals a few years ago would have been insane.
Honestly some of it is people just trolling because they are bored and frustrated that they know the stuff is months off at best. Others hype themselves up until only the second coming of the Emperor would half satisfy their desires; whilst others are just in the dolldrums to start with and GW would have to ship free kittens AND puppies to them to even have a hope of a positive reaction (and even then they'd complain that the kittens were too small and the puppies the wrong breed ).
By and large the reaction is positive; by and large most know that GW can't even get anything to us and overwhelmingly most of us just want the world back how it was 6 months ago!
SKR.HH wrote: Gosh... I already pity the presenters tomorrow. GW is (again) riding the hype train and those poor bastards will have to face the backlash. Is it really that hard to learn from the last two sessions to dial it down a notch?
Do you have extra info that I'm not privy to here or something? All I see is "Preview 3. Online! Join us in 2 days. Twitch.tv". I mean, I suppose we could consider the exclamation mark as over-hype, but I'd personally think that's a bit uncharitable tbh.
There is no reason to have it. Even after they made it subscriber only, too many people mean any good questions or comments get lost in the spam.
Are you new to Twitch? That's what it's supposed to be. Literally just memes and spam and the occasional bit of something else. Working as intended imo. Not everything has to be productive.
There is no reason to have it. Even after they made it subscriber only, too many people mean any good questions or comments get lost in the spam.
Are you new to Twitch? That's what it's supposed to be. Literally just memes and spam and the occasional bit of something else. Working as intended imo. Not everything has to be productive.
Yeah pretty new, ive watched the Warhammer TV stream off and on for a year or so, but the first two previews are the first ones I've seen with so many people present. I hid the chat because it was inane nonsense. I'll hide it before the stream gets going this time.
Fulgrim is more likely than not. They've been teasing him since at least Fracture of Biel-Tan.
9th edition isn't based off BoLS outside of the "9th edition" tag.
It started as speculation elsewhere, pointing towards the slowdown in book releases and shift towards campaign styled material as being reminiscent of what we saw with Age of Sigmar moving towards its 1.5 that we have now with Soul Wars' launch.
Rumormonger supreme Hastings broke the news of primarchs in 40K with this message (commenting on the plastic Ahriman):
Looks good, I’m looking forward to seeing Magnus, Angron, Mortarion, Russ & Guilliman now
And he was right about the three we’ve received. Priorities easily could have changed since then, but I’d lay my money on the next one coming from that list.
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Platuan4th wrote: I don't see another Loyalist Primarch popping up until GW feels they really need to shake the plot up again.
I mean, GW have done this to themselves. Consider:
A loyalist primary awakes: Has a chat with the Mechanicus, and engineers the saviours the Imperium needs. Despite losing half its territory, it has never been so secure.
A traitor primary awakes: He twirls his moustache, and seeks to implement his dastardly plan. But fear not, for Johnny Ultramine, recently promoted to Sergeant of the 856th company, draws his mighty chainsword and cuts the daemon primarch in twain.
They can release as many traitor primarchs as they want; they'll never achieve anything, along or together. But having two loyalist primarchs up and about at the same time would make the Imperium unstoppable.
I could swear they straight up said there would be two more previews at the end of part 2. Thus some of the annoyance after we all expected only 2 total for the big reveals.
I wonder if they're silently walking that back and rolling the rest into a big one tomorrow to try and build back some good will?
Platuan4th wrote: I don't see another Loyalist Primarch popping up until GW feels they really need to shake the plot up again.
I mean, GW have done this to themselves. Consider:
A loyalist primary awakes: Has a chat with the Mechanicus, and engineers the saviours the Imperium needs. Despite losing half its territory, it has never been so secure.
A traitor primary awakes: He twirls his moustache, and seeks to implement his dastardly plan. But fear not, for Johnny Ultramine, recently promoted to Sergeant of the 856th company, draws his mighty chainsword and cuts the daemon primarch in twain.
They can release as many traitor primarchs as they want; they'll never achieve anything, along or together. But having two loyalist primarchs up and about at the same time would make the Imperium unstoppable.
Considering the tensions following both Imperium Secondus and post-Heresy between the various Primarchs, I don't see Russ or Johnson just going along with how Guilliman is doing/wants to do things. It also gives the anti-Guilliman members of the High Lords someone to appeal to. That's what I meant by shaking up the plot.
was burned the last 2 weeks so at the stage where if I'm up and having a cup of coffee, I'll watch, but i won't be getting up specifically for it (6am showing for me.....which means I'll probably be rising)
I could swear they straight up said there would be two more previews at the end of part 2. Thus some of the annoyance after we all expected only 2 total for the big reveals.
I wonder if they're silently walking that back and rolling the rest into a big one tomorrow to try and build back some good will?
UK Lockdown is at least another three weeks - so it's good will from the internet of all places and three weeks of radio silence vs four part preview...
Earliest releases are now end of May (few sites seem to have a tentative restock date of the 22nd).
I could swear they straight up said there would be two more previews at the end of part 2. Thus some of the annoyance after we all expected only 2 total for the big reveals.
I wonder if they're silently walking that back and rolling the rest into a big one tomorrow to try and build back some good will?
If anything it will be the opposite. The Uk’s Lockdown has been extended for at least another 3 weeks. They are probably planning to do part 4 in the warhammerfest timeframe so they have something to show then and save the announcements they originally intended for that show to spread out over the next few weeks.
It seems likely that they wanted to announce 9th edition at adepticon, which along with pariah, war of the spider, 2 new AOS armies, a Horus heresy primarch, new Warcry warbands, a new bloodbowl team, more stuff for Lotr and the story forge stuff probably would have merited the “biggest preview ever” tag.
But now with such uncertainty about when production and shipping will start again it is probably unwise to announce their biggest product.
My prediction is that this show will be lacklustre for 40k fans as they will save 9th edition for warhammerfest or later. We we will probably just see a new hero, maybe the Necron that was rumoured. We will get a new bloodbowl team, another look at Lumineth or Sons of Behemat, another small expansion for Blackstone, a few new models for the Horus Heresy and a bit of a mystery for Warcry. The Warcry reveal is the most intriguing. It really could be anything.
Sabotage! wrote: Edited: I'm wasn't saying anything that hasn't been said before, and I don't want to set this thread into a whirlwind of a arguement.
Good thinking. Best thing I have seen on internet all morning.
(didnt see your first attempt, so this is not about what you wrote, just thrilled about your edit reasoning)
SKR.HH wrote: Gosh... I already pity the presenters tomorrow. GW is (again) riding the hype train and those poor bastards will have to face the backlash. Is it really that hard to learn from the last two sessions to dial it down a notch?
Do you have extra info that I'm not privy to here or something? All I see is "Preview 3. Online! Join us in 2 days. Twitch.tv". I mean, I suppose we could consider the exclamation mark as over-hype, but I'd personally think that's a bit uncharitable tbh.
@JWBS: From their Warhammer community article:
"From models you’ve been looking forward to for years to things you never even knew you wanted, this is going to be the most exciting Warhammer Preview Online so far!"
SKR.HH wrote: Gosh... I already pity the presenters tomorrow. GW is (again) riding the hype train and those poor bastards will have to face the backlash. Is it really that hard to learn from the last two sessions to dial it down a notch?
Do you have extra info that I'm not privy to here or something? All I see is "Preview 3. Online! Join us in 2 days. Twitch.tv". I mean, I suppose we could consider the exclamation mark as over-hype, but I'd personally think that's a bit uncharitable tbh.
@JWBS: From their Warhammer community article:
"From models you’ve been looking forward to for years to things you never even knew you wanted, this is going to be the most exciting Warhammer Preview Online so far!"
Feels like hyping to me...
That literally only says it is more exciting than the first two previews. Which many on here have said were disappointing. So that's not saying much.
SKR.HH wrote: Gosh... I already pity the presenters tomorrow. GW is (again) riding the hype train and those poor bastards will have to face the backlash. Is it really that hard to learn from the last two sessions to dial it down a notch?
Do you have extra info that I'm not privy to here or something? All I see is "Preview 3. Online! Join us in 2 days. Twitch.tv". I mean, I suppose we could consider the exclamation mark as over-hype, but I'd personally think that's a bit uncharitable tbh.
@JWBS: From their Warhammer community article:
"From models you’ve been looking forward to for years to things you never even knew you wanted, this is going to be the most exciting Warhammer Preview Online so far!"
Feels like hyping to me...
That literally only says it is more exciting than the first two previews. Which many on here have said were disappointing. So that's not saying much.
Still don't understand why they are doing this. Everybody is aware that there is another preview... people even know which systems are previewed... so why try to set expectations that can't be covered by everybody (because they are subjective)? I know, I know... marketing. But still...
I don't think the real problem is the marketing-speak.
The real problem are all those weird, fake-news click-bait rumours about the Lion and 2-wound Berzerkers and 9th Ed. and Fulgrim and whatever.
I feel like a few years back when GW was still running completely silent, people were a bit more sceptical and mature in not taking everything thrown out by the rumour-trolls at face value, but for some reason people have lost that scepticism and are falling again for the trolls, projecting that stuff as expectations onto GW, instead of directing their anger at the fake-rumour-spreading lowlifes that just cook up garbage for clicks on blogs, YouTube, etc..
I mean the FW Lion is a prime example. When FW did their Heresy Curze or Lorgar or Sanguinius or Angron or whatever, nobody got "hyped" for a 40K version of those Primarch. Yet with the Lion, that false assumption was everywhere, without GW ever remotely suggesting that. All previous 40K Primarchs had dedicated teaser videos and more at least 6 months prior to their release. That "hype" and the subsequent disappointment wasn't GW's fault. That was the fault of guillable people falling for click-bait-snakesoil and spreading the fake-news online without validating sources or adding disclaimers.
The real problem are all those weird, fake-news click-bait rumours about the Lion and 2-wound Berzerkers and 9th Ed. and Fulgrim and whatever.
I feel like a few years back when GW was still running completely silent, people were a bit more sceptical and mature in not taking everything thrown out by the rumour-trolls at face value, but for some reason people have lost that scepticism and are falling again for the trolls, projecting that stuff as expectations onto GW, instead of directing their anger at the fake-rumour-spreading lowlifes that just cook up garbage for clicks on blogs, YouTube, etc..
This and the community itself. Forums, especially Dakka goes of in a hype circle, and explode in a all-consuming fire of hate if the self created hype isn't fulfilled, which never is the case.
And remember most of the customers aren't cruising forums, but get their news directly from WarCom.
And remember most of the customers aren't cruising forums, but get their news directly from WarCom.
Sure, but similarly the notion that the previews were a "big disappointment" or "grossly underperforming" or somehow "shaming GW" is also more prevalent on forums like Dakkadakka, where these fake news circle.
Not a representative sample of course, but in the WhatsApp group and on the Facebook page of my local GW store with mostly more "casual" people, etc.., the reception of the previews was also a lot more positive, perhaps because they never heard of vague 9th Ed. or Lion rumours(?).
The reason for the spread of information and mediocre announcements is that GW currently isn't releasing anything. But, they still want to keep GW in peoples mind, so slow drip it is. I'm sure once production and distribution pick back up they will return to normal announcements: and maybe even more exciting drops with this style of video platform.
firmlog wrote: The reason for the spread of information and mediocre announcements is that GW currently isn't releasing anything. But, they still want to keep GW in peoples mind, so slow drip it is. I'm sure once production and distribution pick back up they will return to normal announcements: and maybe even more exciting drops with this style of video platform.
I find it funny that they want to keep GW in our minds. I don't think I've managed to do so much Warhammer as I am right now. Painting figures by the dozen and managing to clock up a few hours on total war.
Looking forward to seeing some Giants today. Hopefully not just sketches.
Sunny Side Up wrote: I feel like a few years back when GW was still running completely silent, people were a bit more sceptical and mature in not taking everything thrown out by the rumour-trolls at face value
Where are my plastic greatcoat Guard, disembarking from their plastic Thunderhawk, during the Summer of Fliers!?
firmlog wrote: The reason for the spread of information and mediocre announcements is that GW currently isn't releasing anything. But, they still want to keep GW in peoples mind, so slow drip it is. I'm sure once production and distribution pick back up they will return to normal announcements: and maybe even more exciting drops with this style of video platform.
I find it funny that they want to keep GW in our minds. I don't think I've managed to do so much Warhammer as I am right now. Painting figures by the dozen and managing to clock up a few hours on total war.
Looking forward to seeing some Giants today. Hopefully not just sketches.
This is the nightmare for GW, people realising they can keep up with the hobby without consuming the new stuff. I would say GW is quite safe so far. These previews show lots people are still kind of jumpy and scared of missing out even though the company has shut down temporarily
GW used to do releases only once a month, and usually alternating 40K and WHFB themed, though sometimes on or the other could get a two-months-in-a-row.
Not having anything new for "your game" for 2-3 months a few times each year, even if you collected literally every army, used to be the norm, entirely without Corona, lol.
Sunny Side Up wrote: GW used to do releases only once a month, and usually alternating 40K and WHFB themed, though sometimes on or the other could get a two-months-in-a-row.
Not having anything new for "your game" for 2-3 months a few times each year, even if you collected literally every army, used to be the norm, entirely without Corona, lol.
Not only that but GW used to be far more focused on BIG codex and model releases. So individual armies within a game could spend YEARS waiting to see anything new. GW is far more open now to doing individual new models for armies so even if its just one new character or such; you still are more likely to get a new toy now alongside those big chunky releases that are far rarer. I think also doing more side games helps; people might have one big army, but then have an AN or a Bloodbowl or Killteam etc... other armies. So by having more side games accessible and promoted it means that there's more to interest someone who only has one big 40K army and doesn't want another, but does want to keep hobbying.
Sunny Side Up wrote: GW used to do releases only once a month, and usually alternating 40K and WHFB themed, though sometimes on or the other could get a two-months-in-a-row.
Not having anything new for "your game" for 2-3 months a few times each year, even if you collected literally every army, used to be the norm, entirely without Corona, lol.
A lot of people have forgotten this, but those release slots were exactly that, a big release slot with kit support, which we don't always see now.
Having seen some newer player posts around and about, they find it odd an army doesn't get models or rules inside of a 2 year window. Admittedly if they just released a kit per army here and there to replace finecast/old kits and stopped peddling the extra books for a bit, that might breed a better environment.
Remember its not yet started this is the pre-pre where you get WArhammer music and twitch chat and often a bit of chatter once presentors turn up in advance of the release starting which then also streams through the twitch and on the GW Community website
5 minutes for the Stream to start. 20 until Preview 3 - Adeptus Boogaloo
No you can’t pinch that. I thought of it, and want to use it for a tournament team name when I don’t suck too hard for a Tourny (because I feel peeps might feel cheated beating me so easily)
Just a reminder before we get into all the previews. Have reasonable expectations for what's being shown, and don't accept rubbish either. The middle ground is what we should be expecting.
It seems they are pretty much like Imperial Knights, only available to anyone as an ally, makes for some great conversion potential for fitting into your armies.
Games Workshop wrote:What’s more, as well as the Sons of Behemat being an army in their own right, every single Warhammer Age of Sigmar faction can take one as an ally...
warl0rdb0b wrote: It seems they are pretty much like Imperial Knights, only available to anyone as an ally, makes for some great conversion potential for fitting into your armies.
Yeah, that is great! I'm really tempted to get one.
H.B.M.C. wrote: Always wanted a BSF expansion that saw bigger drones enter in as the party went deeper. This is exactly what I wanted with a BSF expansion.
Not sure why folks are saying 'Daughters' warband.
They certainly don't look it, and the stream guys just mentioned the realm of shadows, so these are the other (other) Dark Elves.
Edit: oh no, nevermind. They're khainite and shadow elves and morathi followers with a different aesthetic for whatever reason.
Voss wrote: Not sure why folks are saying 'Daughters' warband.
They certainly don't look it, and the stream guys just mentioned the realm of shadows, so these are the other (other) Dark Elves.
Because they’re Khainite and the reveal trailer specifically calls out Morathi as their patron/creator.
Yeah, missed a page update while the twitchers were yakking. Not sold on the aesthetic change as a Daughters fit, and since the other elves are in the realm of shadow, it threw me off track. Makes me wonder what the other dark elves will look like, though, if Daughters are nabbing this look (the old assassin look) as well.
Good news!
It looks like its stapled to her back instead.
But that model. Urg. How is she dealing with the backpiece of impending trauma, holding up the giant bowl, why is she wearing that belt, and how is she not falling off that rock with that weight distribution?
Definitely buying that Warcry war band when it comes out six months from now. Awesome reveals so far. I just bought Blackstone Fortress as well so everything in this reveal is up my alley.
As someone not watching the stream, did they confirm the leader of the warcry warband was a mistweaver siah? Since she's 100% a crueler version of the Warhammer Quest model
Szeras looks very Cryxian. I like it. I don't like the suck-sucking diorama base he's got going, but that's my beef with modeling energy emanations and flames in plastic, they never look right to my eye, and are fragile as models.
So they're discussing the history of pariahs and notably not mentioning the old necron unit. Just wandered into blackstone and how it can be turned on and off.
Oh, and Szeras now comes with anti-psyker rules (in 9" any double is Perils), and this is 'the shape of things to come' for necrons.
GaroRobe wrote: As someone not watching the stream, did they confirm the leader of the warcry warband was a mistweaver siah? Since she's 100% a crueler version of the Warhammer Quest model
They made a mention to it rather than directly saying 100%, but I might have missed something.
Overall, a much better preview day then the last two.
Mostly great reveals, save for Blackstone Fortress.
I like the Greater Spindledrones, but come on. This is the "last quest" and all we got are bigger drones and the thrice return of Thunder Hammer Chaos Champion. (He's on the box and hinted in the trailer.)
A bit of a letdown there, given the cool models we've gotten in the past.
This Necron character is actually super cool. I usually don't like Necrons, but this is very solid aesthetic. I really wish their other models would look this interesting instead of being boring robo-skeletons.
Out of all the options available, one has to wonder why Inquisitor Draxus would opt for the humble shuriken catapult. That being said, it's a wonderful model. I love the unique looking armor she wears, clearly some kind of xenos-influenced design, and I especially like that she's not standing on a Tactical Rock (TM).
Agamemnon2 wrote: Out of all the options available, one has to wonder why Inquisitor Draxus would opt for the humble shuriken catapult. That being said, it's a wonderful model. I love the unique looking armor she wears, clearly some kind of xenos-influenced design, and I especially like that she's not standing on a Tactical Rock (TM).
The lack of a rock is nice. I'd like the model a bit more without the dragon, to be honest. She's otherwise very practical.
Agamemnon2 wrote: Out of all the options available, one has to wonder why Inquisitor Draxus would opt for the humble shuriken catapult.
Inquisitors are often very old so perhaps she got it during the second edition when it was really good weapon.
That being said, it's a wonderful model. I love the unique looking armor she wears, clearly some kind of xenos-influenced design, and I especially like that she's not standing on a Tactical Rock (TM).
Given the inquisitors prominence in trailers in the past (alongside the xeno dragon), not surprising to see her get a model.
I am surprised that we still haven't gotten a Veilwalker model. Since she's such a major harlequin character these days, the like of a dedicated model is odd
Love how the talking about Xenos Inquisitors keeping an eye on the alien threat during this time and needing to mobilize troops to fight it........you literally have a force to do that, but decided that they aren't important enough to include......wtf???
changemod wrote: The less important of the two named crypteks? That’s kinda sad after accidentally hyping the silent king.
Oh well, at least he looks good if you leave that goofy dying human with a big arc of flying blood off the base
Szeras made the biotransference and is generally pretty curious about anatomy. Admittedly we don't know much about the story of Pariah, but it just makes sense for Szeras to be the one fething around with blackstone and life essence.
bullyboy wrote: Love how the talking about Xenos Inquisitors keeping an eye on the alien threat during this time and needing to mobilize troops to fight it........you literally have a force to do that, but decided that they aren't important enough to include......wtf???
Why take your Chamber Militant when you can have some Ultramarines instead?
Agamemnon2 wrote: and I especially like that she's not standing on a Tactical Rock (TM).
She is the tactical rock for that little xenos dragon.
But honestly while I love the idea of this Inquisitor, I'm not really into the pet perched on her arm, and it's just kind of busy in the wrong way. Contrast with the Necron who is busy in a very well done way.
Snotling BB team - I need this in my life.
Good to see they made sure the little guys had character.
PA stuff - The inquisitor isn’t bad but the cron, that’s an insanely huge win for me in terms of sculpting.
Think this may be sat at the top as my fave 40k sculpt now.
Sons of behemat - I’m actually shocked by this.
I was hoping they wouldn’t go into the goofy look for them and I’m surprised they didn’t.
Turned out looking like amazing models and indeed massive too.
Overall, their post summed it up for me.
Their biggest update yet - True.
Stuff I’ve been waiting for - behemat
Stuff I didn’t know I needed - snotlings
changemod wrote: The less important of the two named crypteks? That’s kinda sad after accidentally hyping the silent king.
Oh well, at least he looks good if you leave that goofy dying human with a big arc of flying blood off the base
I was looking at that, it seems really easy. The blood spurt doesn't reach his swirly thing, and I think the weapon bit touching the guy's back is just a beam coming out of the butt of his lance.
He is standing on the guy, but that can be replaced by terrain pretty easily.
I suppose that's it then. I'll rate this as better than the last one, since I like those mega giants a lot, and I din't like anything from preview two. The first preview with Lion and Fabius and Cow God was still a bit better than this one imo. I'm definitely going to be buying one of those giants though.
bullyboy wrote: Love how the talking about Xenos Inquisitors keeping an eye on the alien threat during this time and needing to mobilize troops to fight it........you literally have a force to do that, but decided that they aren't important enough to include......wtf???
Why take your Chamber Militant when you can have some Ultramarines instead?
People forget that Inquisitors don't always play well with others...and who's to say that the Deathwatch would have said "okay" to aiding her?
Wow, they really saved the best for last! Shadowstalkers are ace, as is the new Szeras and a radical Inquisitor with Shuriken Catapult, who would have thought of that.
bullyboy wrote: Love how the talking about Xenos Inquisitors keeping an eye on the alien threat during this time and needing to mobilize troops to fight it........you literally have a force to do that, but decided that they aren't important enough to include......wtf???
Why take your Chamber Militant when you can have some Ultramarines instead?
People forget that Inquisitors don't always play well with others...and who's to say that the Deathwatch would have said "okay" to aiding her?
I was going to say 'especially since she's radical and uses a shuriken catapult', but then I remembered that Deathwatch have Necron tech, so that wouldn't really strengthen your point
bullyboy wrote: Love how the talking about Xenos Inquisitors keeping an eye on the alien threat during this time and needing to mobilize troops to fight it........you literally have a force to do that, but decided that they aren't important enough to include......wtf???
Why take your Chamber Militant when you can have some Ultramarines instead?
People forget that Inquisitors don't always play well with others...and who's to say that the Deathwatch would have said "okay" to aiding her?
I was going to say 'especially since she's radical and uses a shuriken catapult', but then I remembered that Deathwatch have Necron tech, so that wouldn't really strengthen your point
GaroRobe wrote:Overall, a much better preview day then the last two.
Mostly great reveals, save for Blackstone Fortress.
I like the Greater Spindledrones, but come on. This is the "last quest" and all we got are bigger drones and the thrice return of Thunder Hammer Chaos Champion. (He's on the box and hinted in the trailer.)
A bit of a letdown there, given the cool models we've gotten in the past.
Didn't catch the stream, but the WarCom text reads "This massive expansion will bring you new adventures, new rewards andnew enemies, such as these Guardian Drones." (emphasis mine)
So there should be other things in there too! Agreed with the sentiment; they're nice but not the most interesting or novel design.
Agamemnon2 wrote:Szeras looks very Cryxian. I like it. I don't like the suck-sucking diorama base he's got going, but that's my beef with modeling energy emanations and flames in plastic, they never look right to my eye, and are fragile as models.
Thankfully, it doesn't actually connect to the main model it seems, so should be easy enough to leave off.
Not a fan of the shadow elves for similar reasons - I see what they were going for, but plastic-moulded shadows just look like plastic. Shame, as those warband tend to be excellent most of the time.
The giants look great in terms of detail (the face on that bearded one is terrific), the identical pose of the legs a bit of a downside even if photographing them from different angles is a neat way of hiding that fact. Still, at one-per-army the repetition won't be a major issue.
But most importantly, those Snotlings are one of the best things GW have made in years. Absolutely love them. So good.
wow. saul tarvitz came out of left field.. I was not expecting that, especially after all the jokes they made about him at the weekender last year, but then I guess traitor legion loyalist character models are quite thin on the ground.
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The giant is nice, and that victim on the necron model is something I would grab from the bits store for sure. the rest of the items arent really my thing.
Thankfully, it doesn't actually connect to the main model it seems, so should be easy enough to leave off.
Not a fan of the shadow elves for similar reasons - I see what they were going for, but plastic-moulded shadows just look like plastic. Shame, as those warband tend to be excellent most of the time.
Hm, I'm actually wondering how it would look to paint those shadows with the famous Black 3.0 super-duper matte black paint
changemod wrote: The less important of the two named crypteks? That’s kinda sad after accidentally hyping the silent king.
Oh well, at least he looks good if you leave that goofy dying human with a big arc of flying blood off the base
Szeras made the biotransference and is generally pretty curious about anatomy. Admittedly we don't know much about the story of Pariah, but it just makes sense for Szeras to be the one fething around with blackstone and life essence.
Yeah, he has a small role in the Necrons backstory (Biotransference came from the deceiver, but he was apparently somewhat involved in the conversion of that from star god pseudo-magic to machinery), but he’s not exactly a very important character, just... Necron Fabius Bile really.
Meanwhile Orikan has grand manipulative plots, some weird pursuit of godhood thing going on and an honest to goodness non-warp-based secret time machine he uses to correct his past self if his predictions go wrong, and the various named Overlords have entire empires to their names. Not to mention again, accidentally hyping up the silent king again.
He’s a cool model and more or less guaranteed to be a very solid HQ so long as his points cost isn’t excessive... I’ll probably buy two of him so I have the kit and conversion bits too... I’m just pointing out he’s not very important.
Giants look nice though, so it's an improvement on last time though. Just a shame they're turning them into Knights and we'll see them across the table every game.
Still no super exciting stuff for 40k other than some characters, Sigmar's had what, 2 new entire armies get revealed so far? :(
Nothing for Titanicus.
Disappointed.
That being said, I need that Inquisitor, and I'm tempted to get the Sister just because. Cool models. Just would love some non-character 40k stuff already darn it!
Darsath wrote: 40k releases seem to be almost entirely just characters. Odd.
Probably / perhaps because they revealed the next "army"-release with AdMech pre-Corona and don't wanna spoil the next before those are on sale?
Just a theory. AoS seems ok with showing off 2, if very different armies. But perhaps they think Giants and High Elves (with giant Cows) are different enough to not appeal to the same people?
Really enjoyed that! In as much for the direction that are taking things- the Warcry war band looked cool and I was delighted to see a non chaos faction featured- hope they bring out others [they really need to do this with Killteam- non battlefield exploration of factions - love to see a Tyranid inflation team of specialist creatures/mutants].
Loved the snotlings are really fun, the giants look excellent and the Blackstone drones are brilliant I wonder what they will bring out next for quest - a fantasy one would be excellent. Got the feeling the Blackstone critters might become their own 40k force with them mentioning the finale of Blackstone had an impact on the 40k universe.
The last Psychic Awakening book looks great- love the models .But I got the sense the story is turning from the threat of Chaos back to the threat of Xenos.. which would be a relief..
Great stuff -plenty to think about even though none of those things are specifically my factions/interests. I like the direction things could be heading in. I am tempted by that sister limited edition model and maybe the Warcry war band..
looking forward to the next reveal. .
I quite like the 2 new Made to Order W40K characters, but why are they priced at £22.50 rather than £20? I was under the impression that limited edition single character models were pretty much always £20 - Grombrindal, The Primaris Lieutenant a few weeks back, Store anniversary models etc. Just seems a bit odd to have them more expensive (and such a small amount more) than the previous similar stuff, without any obvious reason.
Mentlegen324 wrote: I quite like the 2 new Made to Order W40K characters, but why are they priced at £22.50 rather than £20? I was under the impression that limited edition single character models were pretty much always £20 - Grombrindal, The Primaris Lieutenant a few weeks back, Store anniversary models etc. Just seems a bit odd to have them more expensive (and such a small amount more) than the previous similar stuff, without any obvious reason.
I've enjoyed all of the previews so far but that one was easily, by a long way, my favourite.
The giants look incredible, the nautical themed one being my favourite and will be really looking forward to seeing the conversions that people will do with these as well as, hopefully, some third party extras some studios may release.
The snotlings were out of left field, along with the Warcry Khainites (Hello D&D Drow!) all of which are straight on the 'to buy list'.
Funnily enough I came back to the PC as they were showing off the inquisitor and with no prior context as to what it was the first few seconds of drinking in the details left me a bit confused.
'Evil little familiar creature perched on outstreched hand? Head looks sort of elvish at a glance, dark coloured advanced looking armour... ermmm, new Dark Eldar lord?'
'Wait. No. Eyes are drawn towards the shuriken rifle; and the rather large skull on the right shoulder? Surely not!?Excodite?! WOW! Oh, wait... hang on, going over the details we've already seen; imperial looking grenade and a powerfist?
An Inquisitor? Madness, I love it!
Fingers firmly crossed hoping she'll be the first of a new wave of suitably eccentric and different looking Inquisitor kits. I suppose her being shown off with the Necron fella in that cute cinematic means an inevitable battle box first similar to 'Prophecy of the Wolf'?
Not to be too much of a debbie downer, the only thing left that I'm definitely not looking forward to is the announcement on pricing for some of these kits... £22.50 for the sister? As much as I REALLY like the model, I'll sadly have to pass.
Well it was a better preview than last weeks but then that wasn't a hard target to beat. Shame there's still no news on Primaris with those bikers but ah well.
Mentlegen324 wrote: I quite like the 2 new Made to Order W40K characters, but why are they priced at £22.50 rather than £20? I was under the impression that limited edition single character models were pretty much always £20 - Grombrindal, The Primaris Lieutenant a few weeks back, Store anniversary models etc. Just seems a bit odd to have them more expensive (and such a small amount more) than the previous similar stuff, without any obvious reason.
Definitely the best preview. The Giants are pretty awesome, I could see myself picking one up at some point as they can be used in any army. The guardian drones look fantastic, I really like the aesthetic of the BSF drones. Khainite warband is off to a great start, looking forward to seeing the rest of them. The Lumineth ‘endless spell’ is pretty cool. Don’t love it but I do love the veiled face. Snotlings are great but not something I’ll get.
Saul Tarvitz unfortunately doesn’t hold a candle to the earlier Emperors Children heresy models in terms of detail. They still remain probably the best legion specific models in my opinion.
I really like the Inquisitor, the armour is really cool and she has a dragon.
Most importantly, Szeras. The old Szeras model has been my favourite necron model since he came out, and this new one is just so far ahead of that one it’s not even funny. I’m floored by how cool he is. Incredible.
Mentlegen324 wrote: I quite like the 2 new Made to Order W40K characters, but why are they priced at £22.50 rather than £20? I was under the impression that limited edition single character models were pretty much always £20 - Grombrindal, The Primaris Lieutenant a few weeks back, Store anniversary models etc. Just seems a bit odd to have them more expensive (and such a small amount more) than the previous similar stuff, without any obvious reason.
Because that's how GW raises prices these days.
There isn’t much rhyme or reason to the limited edition model prices. Some are £20, some are £25 (the Primaris guy with the Chainsword in the Ork corpse was £25) and I guess now some are £22.50.
best news is that my wallet will remain pretty fat from all of this.
1. Deathwatch update needs no purchase (already have Codex:SM so have just marked appropriate strats)
2. No interest in Engine War or War of the Spider.
3. Not interested in AOS, Warcry, BB, BSF etc (still haven't played any of the last 3 even though I have some models)
4. Will get Pariah, Stern/Kyganil and Inquisitor.
5. May get Harlequin WD if there is something of use in there.
6. Terminator Libby is ugly and that sister is too expensive even if stunning.
7. Oh, I will probably buy Daemonifuge.
Wow, my GW expenditures will be so low for the rest of this year by the looks of it. Hot diggity.
Mentlegen324 wrote: I quite like the 2 new Made to Order W40K characters, but why are they priced at £22.50 rather than £20? I was under the impression that limited edition single character models were pretty much always £20 - Grombrindal, The Primaris Lieutenant a few weeks back, Store anniversary models etc. Just seems a bit odd to have them more expensive (and such a small amount more) than the previous similar stuff, without any obvious reason.
2) The new Giants are not my thing (I'd rather super aweseome dragons); however the sculpts look outstanding. Chock full of detail, big and with loads of variety and parts on offer. I can see them being a very popular kit indeed. Not totally surprised that GW made them an ally possible unit for a large swathe of armies. Giants as a single theme for a whole army on their own are a risk because its a very top-heavy purchase for an army. Granted you don't need many, but you do have to make a big outlay to get your handful of models to get going. So having them as allies for other forces allows GW to tease them in and then once someone has two or three consider grabbing the battletome and a few smaller giants just for a fun quick to use army.
Overall very neat and great models.
3) The new Daughters of Khaine warband is a big surprise on multiple fronts, especially as we've just had the Underworld Warband announced as well. Their designs are also very different from the classic and they embody far more of the shadow styles and themes that the faction has. It will be really interesting to see how they fit into the army and what the other models in the band look like. Having more variety for Daughters is going to be a lot of fun and it will be interesting to see how they slot into the regular army. Right now the Chaos Warbands slot in at the very bottom of Slaves to Darkness, but also work in large 40 man units. DoK models could be a small 10 woman team on the AoS battlefield or up to 30 or 40 models in a band. Hopefully they retain the easy to use and simple approach to AoS rules that the Chaos bands have - making them a unique and themed force that will look awesome of the tabletop.
The Shadow effect is fantastic. It will be interesting to see how GW takes them into Daughters and its also good to see them both able to support their current styles with the Underworld warband which has a very classic fantasy approach to the model appearances; then something totally out of the park and very AoS for the Warcry team.
4) The new Blackstone Fortress models look fab and I really want a pair of them. It's also the final expansion which suggests that Blackstone is coming to an end; this might mean that Warhammer Quest will return to AoS; if it does so then based on the models we've seen for the 40K version - we are in for a REAL treat!
5) The new limited edition models going up for sale look great and I REALLY want that Sister of Battle.
6) Snotlings are snotlings and are just pure oozing warhammer fun. I'm not surprised how popular they've been in the comments both here and on other sites and twitch/FB. I can see them selling really well and also being used a lot in Gloomspite Gitz armies as stand in models.
7) The Warhammer Tv hints are neat, but like all Warhammer TV there isn't much to bit on at present. Still I'm very supportive and enthused by the artistic styles they've gone for.
8) The new 40K Characters look fantastic (have I used up my limit on fantastic yet?). The new Inquisitor has some very neat interactions with Xenos tech whilst the Necron blows the old model away. It's huge, gangly and clearly using all the powers of plastic to stand there in that epic pose. Very happy to see Necrons getting some love with such wonderful sculpt. Easily one of the best sculpts we've seen this year thus far I think (excluding the modular Giants kit)
Overall fantastic preview and combined with the others Adpeticon would certainly have been one of the biggest events of the year and in a long while in terms of volume and impact had it gone ahead as normal. Very happy all round, though with the SoB this week and the comic tie-in last week I'm getting the feeling that GW are abandoning Primaris and going full on for Sisters of Battle = a move that will likely see me ending up with the "Sisters of Battle Character/limited edition" army
How much is the new nun with a gun? The email store link is still empty. She looks pretty cool in the email they sent out profiling her from a different angle but I didn't catch the codex cover reference until I saw the side by side pic above. I still haven't painted my Amalia Novena yet so no worries for me at least if they're price gouging.
Meanwhile Orikan has grand manipulative plots, some weird pursuit of godhood thing going on and an honest to goodness non-warp-based secret time machine he uses to correct his past self if his predictions go wrong, and the various named Overlords have entire empires to their names. Not to mention again, accidentally hyping up the silent king again.
He’s a cool model and more or less guaranteed to be a very solid HQ so long as his points cost isn’t excessive... I’ll probably buy two of him so I have the kit and conversion bits too... I’m just pointing out he’s not very important.
Most importantly, Orikan has one of the worst models of the entire range.
warboss wrote: How much is the new nun with a gun? The email store link is still empty. She looks pretty cool in the email they sent out profiling her from a different angle but I didn't catch the codex perseverance until I saw the side by side pic above. I still haven't painted my Amalia Novena yet so no worries for me at least if they're price gouging.
Its up on the UK site. Both models cost 22.50 euros/pounds/whatever currency is used over there currently. I'm guessing teabags, or toilet paper if they're like the US
Since these MTOs are there to support GWs short term cashflow until they reopen, am I right in thinking that order payments will be taken now rather than in 6 months on production/dispatch?
Insurgency Walker wrote: So, it looks like through all these previews Astra Militarum gets zip? I think we've lost more units than gained recently, if going to legends counts.
Probably won't even get the Catachan Sergeant as Made-To-Order either which will definitely tick me off since those Event models are like gold dust otherwise.
To be honest, the lack of Guard even appearing in the background of things like the PA trailers and total absence from the lore as anything but throwaway lines - hell, even The Greater Good's fluff was more about the Planetary Governess than the Guard itself - makes me think either they're going to get a huge and total revamp down the line, or GW has designs to quietly let them take the place of what Sisters were.
Insane Ivan wrote: Who or what is the dude on Szeras’s base supposed to represent? An Ecclesiarchy priest?
Elevenses wrote: Since these MTOs are there to support GWs short term cashflow until they reopen, am I right in thinking that order payments will be taken now rather than in 6 months on production/dispatch?
Yep, says payment will be taken on completion of your order, not on dispatch.
greyknight12 wrote: “Draxus is very different to other Inquisitors we’ve seen before”
Oh really?
Yes really. She's obviously modelled more as a radical whereas the design cues on the classic inquisitor aren't. One has typical Imperial accoutrements like rounded edges, an obviously earth origin (albeit cyber/geneticaly modified) pet, and Imperial weaponry whereas she has a xenos weapon, alien pet, and spikey armor details indicative of a slide towards chaos. You don't have to be 100% different to be "very" different.
The new inquisitor is very bland. We've had years of brilliant stuff coming out of the inquisimunda community, making use of GW's own creative outlets in the specialist games only to get something that looks too clean to be a radical with a spare shruiken catapuly awkwardly attached like baby's first kitbash.
Insurgency Walker wrote: So, it looks like through all these previews Astra Militarum gets zip? I think we've lost more units than gained recently, if going to legends counts.
Imagine how Dark Eldar feel. They've lost about half their codex in the last few editions. And I don't just mean 'moved to legends', I mean permanently gone.
But it's okay, at least this preview showed them that GW is fully capable of making cool, shadow-elf models. They just choose not to give any new units to Dark Eldar.
Plus another tenner for shipping. And with the webstore effectively closed, getting over the free shipping threshold requires buying.. another one? Or the marine? That's it I think.
Had no intention of resisting purchasing one more Sister almost regardless of the price, but there are limits.
Actual text on the homepage was just the more reason not to cave in: "Know no FOMO! Order yours before it's too late." Ugh.
Artificially limited availability with an artificially inflated pricepoint, they know it, we know it... no need to rub it in.
greyknight12 wrote: I don’t think having spiky armor makes you “very different” while being posed exactly the same as a model that’s been around since 3rd edition.
If you're using pose as the exclusive criterion to determine very different, you'll probably be consistently disappointed after almost 35 years of 40k model poses across dozens of lines unless you're a fan of the perched precariously on/leaning off/launching from a 5ft piece of terrain with some odd flame/swoosh/force/smoke effect to balance the model pose that the studio is increasingly fond of .
It wasn't just spikey armor. For example, I don't recall an Imperial model using a shuriken catapult since the original days of RT. That creature is also completely new to my knowledge and not the typical servo skull/bird/cherub that we typically get for pets. Before you invariably start to accuse me of being a GW fanboi or somesuch, I don't actually like the model and would never buy it or frankly even spend the time painting it up if it was simply included in a lot that I bought for other reasons. I simply acknowledge the differences in the design compared with the =I= stuff we've gotten in the recent and even distant past (pose obviously notwithstanding).
Early May - GW might be waiting on a formal date because end of May MIGHT see the lockdown start to lift so they might be wanting to wait until nearer the day as they might have some better idea of when they can re-open their factory.
Insurgency Walker wrote: So, it looks like through all these previews Astra Militarum gets zip? I think we've lost more units than gained recently, if going to legends counts.
Imagine how Dark Eldar feel. They've lost about half their codex in the last few editions. And I don't just mean 'moved to legends', I mean permanently gone.
But it's okay, at least this preview showed them that GW is fully capable of making cool, shadow-elf models. They just choose not to give any new units to Dark Eldar.
I imagine dark eldar feel like they just had a new plastic kit and special character a couple of months back.
Apple Peel wrote: I like how this Inquisitor gets power armor, but we can’t take unnamed Inquisitors in power armor (no datasheet).
Yeah, that is super annoying. As much as I like this Inquisitor model, I would much more like proper rules support for creating your own Inquisitors. Even in the WD article with the Inquisition rules most of the example conversions had loadouts that the rules didn't actually allow. It is just insane.
Both of which were at the absolute bottom of the list of things DE players actually wanted.
I mean...they were top for me but I'm obsessed with Incubi and think that they should expand the entire Incubi range to include lords, jet bikes, sky boards, chariots, battle suits and giant incubi Wraithknights.
Insurgency Walker wrote: So, it looks like through all these previews Astra Militarum gets zip? I think we've lost more units than gained recently, if going to legends counts.
Probably won't even get the Catachan Sergeant as Made-To-Order either which will definitely tick me off since those Event models are like gold dust otherwise.
To be honest, the lack of Guard even appearing in the background of things like the PA trailers and total absence from the lore as anything but throwaway lines - hell, even The Greater Good's fluff was more about the Planetary Governess than the Guard itself - makes me think either they're going to get a huge and total revamp down the line, or GW has designs to quietly let them take the place of what Sisters were.
Gee, there was no one specific regiment called out? What a shock.
Insane Ivan wrote: Who or what is the dude on Szeras’s base supposed to represent? An Ecclesiarchy priest?
Inquisitorial Acolyte maybe?
It's an Ecclesiarchy Priest. The Ecclesiarchy emblem is emblazoned on his torso.
Dudeface wrote: I imagine dark eldar feel like they just had a new plastic kit and special character a couple of months back.
We got a replacement kit and a replacement character kit.
Both of which were at the absolute bottom of the list of things DE players actually wanted.
Are you sure? Perhaps DE players with large legacy armies where both those models that were replaced were originally bought in metal; or with lucky (or hard work fix) finecast. However I know that Tyranid players and Eldar players would love (and do love) getting replacement plastics for current finecast models. Heck the Necron lord in the release event we just had is a replacement sculpt.
Plus another tenner for shipping. And with the webstore effectively closed, getting over the free shipping threshold requires buying.. another one? Or the marine? That's it I think.
Had no intention of resisting purchasing one more Sister almost regardless of the price, but there are limits.
Actual text on the homepage was just the more reason not to cave in: "Know no FOMO! Order yours before it's too late." Ugh.
Artificially limited availability with an artificially inflated pricepoint, they know it, we know it... no need to rub it in.
Don't forget that global crisis. 'Spend money you should be saving for food and emergencies on the promise of future toys!'
This really takes scummy behavior to a new level. The gift vouchers were bad enough, but this is outright predatory.
Goddamn those Shadow elves look great. It's nice to see some AoS shades being released.
I'm pretty sad that the Lumineth didnt get more though. I would have loved for more weird elves. I don't think that these are all the models the Aelves will get, but I wish I had just a little bit more.
Plus another tenner for shipping. And with the webstore effectively closed, getting over the free shipping threshold requires buying.. another one? Or the marine? That's it I think.
Had no intention of resisting purchasing one more Sister almost regardless of the price, but there are limits.
Actual text on the homepage was just the more reason not to cave in: "Know no FOMO! Order yours before it's too late." Ugh.
Artificially limited availability with an artificially inflated pricepoint, they know it, we know it... no need to rub it in.
Don't forget that global crisis. 'Spend money you should be saving for food and emergencies on the promise of future toys!'
This really takes scummy behavior to a new level. The gift vouchers were bad enough, but this is outright predatory.
A lot of businesses that are forced to close are doing similar things where they can. It's less predatory and more "we have running costs as we keep staff on so help us out". I know a lot of zoos and animal centres are asking for more donations and the like because for them the running costs are animal feed and the like.
It's less predatory and more essential for many in helping them through. Furthermore its not aiming for you to spend food money on it. There's a good number getting payments from the government to tide them over; whilst others are only working from home and not out of work. There's money in the system; not for all but for many. As a result companies and shops are keen to tap into it where they can.
Plus another tenner for shipping. And with the webstore effectively closed, getting over the free shipping threshold requires buying.. another one? Or the marine? That's it I think.
Had no intention of resisting purchasing one more Sister almost regardless of the price, but there are limits.
Actual text on the homepage was just the more reason not to cave in: "Know no FOMO! Order yours before it's too late." Ugh.
Artificially limited availability with an artificially inflated pricepoint, they know it, we know it... no need to rub it in.
Don't forget that global crisis. 'Spend money you should be saving for food and emergencies on the promise of future toys!'
This really takes scummy behavior to a new level. The gift vouchers were bad enough, but this is outright predatory.
I’m sorry, but this is just laughable.
GW are scummy for offering a discount?
So their prices are too high but when they offer a discount they are being scummy, got it.
Also, check back at previous limited run models, they range between £20-£25.
So these are actually in the middle.
So no, they haven’t hiked up the price to rip people off (they are still not cheap to be fair)
It’s more that people choose to “forget” details that counter their cries.
Jackal90 wrote: So no, they haven’t hiked up the price to rip people off (they are still not cheap to be fair)
It’s more that people choose to “forget” details that counter their cries.
Exactly. They just do that regularly. And they'll keep on keeping on as long as people buy into their crap.
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