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Warhammer Day is around a month out. We’re promised a preview show (no other info on that at present) and an exclusive Votann model.





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Well that's.. pretty boring to be honest. At least it's not a space marine.

I thought this was the Christmas model, since it has an elk icon

But that mystery pie grenade rumor engine pic will likely be for that

I think it might appeal to painters who fancy some Votann fun.

It’s a very open pose, with plenty of space for freehand detailing, lots of angles and that.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I think it might appeal to painters who fancy some Votann fun.

It’s a very open pose, with plenty of space for freehand detailing, lots of angles and that.

Doesn't exactly scream "40 years of warhammer" though, there's dozens of named characters across the game systems they could have done something with, or classic sculpts with a new twist instead of a Votann alternate sculpt.

It should have been Harry.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Well that's.. pretty boring to be honest. At least it's not a space marine.

Yeah, this!

Dudeface wrote:
Doesn't exactly scream "40 years of warhammer" though

This is how the announcement came across for me as well. Feels very underwhelming for a "40 years of warhammer" celebration.

For me the reason for this mismatch of expectation vs what we got is in part due to the fact that GW has been building up hype of "it's 40 years of warhammer, look at this old model, and how it was updated to look even better!" this whole year, only to release a model that is brand new and has no direct (afaik) ties to old models and is for the newest faction in the game. Kind of the opposite of what a celebration of history would normally be.

Feels like this model would be better suited for a "1 Year of Votann" celebration.

It's a nice model, but it doesn't exactly sum up 40 years of Warhammer.

For those of us who heard nothing but how "amazing" Squats returning would be, this is a perfect encapsulation of the 40 years of Warhammer.

I like it, but I expected more than what pretty much amounts to just another alternate repose of a standard miniature. The Votann already had Kahl Grendok who was basically a repose of the Kahl with a few slight changes. For 40 years, there was so much more they could have done, this just feels lazy and uninspired.

 Kanluwen wrote:
For those of us who heard nothing but how "amazing" Squats returning would be, this is a perfect encapsulation of the 40 years of Warhammer.

Just what does that mean?

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Just what does that mean?

It means that pretty much every day since the launch of 3rd Edition to the release of Leagues, there's been a very vocal minority of players complaining about the loss of squats and begging for their return as well as a bunch of people doing it for the meme.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Just what does that mean?

It means that pretty much every day since the launch of 3rd Edition to the release of Leagues, there's been a very vocal minority of players complaining about the loss of squats and begging for their return as well as a bunch of people doing it for the meme.

Something the vast majority don't care about, don't see huge value in, doesn't live up to the hype or feel relevant maybe?

Dudeface wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Just what does that mean?

It means that pretty much every day since the launch of 3rd Edition to the release of Leagues, there's been a very vocal minority of players complaining about the loss of squats and begging for their return as well as a bunch of people doing it for the meme.

Something the vast majority don't care about, don't see huge value in, doesn't live up to the hype or feel relevant maybe?

Sounds very Warhammer to me.

I find that GW photos don't do Votann sculpts justice, they just don't convey the niceness of their scale and proportions.

Do still wish they dropped the random nordic bling tho.

That would be an ideal army-of-one explorer model for Blackstone Fortress.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Just what does that mean?

It means that pretty much every day since the launch of 3rd Edition to the release of Leagues, there's been a very vocal minority of players complaining about the loss of squats and begging for their return as well as a bunch of people doing it for the meme.

I know about that part, obviously - just not sure what his point / complaint about the Squats returning is meant to be.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I find that GW photos don't do Votann sculpts justice, they just don't convey the niceness of their scale and proportions.

Do still wish they dropped the random nordic bling tho.

To be fair to GW random nordic bling is very in keeping with most depictions of dwarves.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Just what does that mean?

It means that pretty much every day since the launch of 3rd Edition to the release of Leagues, there's been a very vocal minority of players complaining about the loss of squats and begging for their return as well as a bunch of people doing it for the meme.

I know about that part, obviously - just not sure what his point / complaint about the Squats returning is meant to be.

That's literally his point, you misread what Kan said.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Just what does that mean?

It means that pretty much every day since the launch of 3rd Edition to the release of Leagues, there's been a very vocal minority of players complaining about the loss of squats and begging for their return as well as a bunch of people doing it for the meme.

I know about that part, obviously - just not sure what his point / complaint about the Squats returning is meant to be.

That's literally his point, you misread what Kan said.

Oh, so he's just complaining we're getting a Squat/Votann mini for the 40th.

It does seem like an odd choice especially with it being the 40th anniversary.

 Platuan4th wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

Just what does that mean?

It means that pretty much every day since the launch of 3rd Edition to the release of Leagues, there's been a very vocal minority of players complaining about the loss of squats and begging for their return as well as a bunch of people doing it for the meme.

Something the vast majority don't care about, don't see huge value in, doesn't live up to the hype or feel relevant maybe?

Sounds very Warhammer to me.

Indeed, and that's what the comment was meaning.

For as long as I've been involved with GW related forums, there has been one constant from the "fanbase":
GW can do nothing right.

They choose to do a really cool model for a faction that was a reimagining of a faction that was removed from the game in such a way that it became a term used to describe the unceremonial removal of something from a game's lore and play, and the "fanbase" reaction is..."it's boring"/"it doesn't fit the gravitas of the event".

I personally am not planning on getting the model...but I don't play Leagues of Votann. I personally would rather have seen AdMech get their first commemorative model, but another LoV one is fine by me!

I'm delighted with her- she looks class. I was expecting a White Dwarf or Bugman model in Votann styling perhaps.

It is good that they are cementing the Votann into the 40k universe, I think its a good event model but yeah it doesn't really scream "40yrs of Warhammer" like a White Dwarf model would.Then again Squats were an iconic missing faction so they fit and I'm definitely not complaining.

 silverstu wrote:
I'm delighted with her- she looks class. I was expecting a White Dwarf or Bugman model in Votann styling perhaps.

It is good that they are cementing the Votann into the 40k universe, I think its a good event model but yeah it doesn't really scream "40yrs of Warhammer" like a White Dwarf model would.Then again Squats were an iconic missing faction so they fit and I'm definitely not complaining.

But they've gone great lengths to assure everyone these aren't quite squats, but the midgets in necromunda are with different heritage.

Thats a truly dull, uninspired model.

I think it's fine? kinda depends on the pricing but it's a perfectly serviceable anniversary model and it's fitting that it's a Squat/Kin

Just glad it's not another goddamn marine. I'd take an average other faction model over another special Space Marine any day.

Would I have preferred something else? Sure. Another update of an RT model like the Imperial Marine would have been awesome, but this is fine. not outstanding, not jaw dropping, but a perfectly adequate model

They'd have been better off doing a Made To Order run of all of the previous limited anniversary/celebration models.

Great looking model, will be fun to convert up for my own purposes. I hope we see shield armed Einhyr with the new codex.

My main question is how we get?

 Olthannon wrote:
Great looking model, will be fun to convert up for my own purposes. I hope we see shield armed Einhyr with the new codex.

My main question is how we get?

Should be able to just order it via the webstore. Should be $40USD/single character in a box price for your locality.

Lovely model and with 3 head options. Must have in my collection and a great way to celebrate 40k.

Should look great has a nicely painted display mini too.

More of this please.

Solid sculpt, but I can not see how it is related to the 40th anniversary of Warhammer at all. Remember some years ago, when White Dwarf "turned 30" and they did a special model of the White Dwarf carried by Bugman and Gotrek? I mean, I was not expecting that level of awesome, but come on...

Meh. Nothing says "40 years of Warhammer" like a boring model from a brand new faction. GW could have at least given us a RT-era space dwarf model for the nostalgia factor, this one feels like someone forgot about the deadline to get the design off to the factory and threw in whatever random upcoming character release they had in the pipeline.

They could have done something better, like a redesign of one of the other Phoenix Lords or a Terminator / Genestealer diorama to tie into 10th edition

Remember when they celebrated 30 years of 40k with a single boring Intercessor, something that was basically a newborn?

 Rolsheen wrote:
like a redesign of one of the other Phoenix Lords

Then everyone would have a very legitimate complaint that a unit that should be a regular release was done as a FOMO.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Remember when they celebrated 30 years of 40k with a single boring Intercessor, something that was basically a newborn?

I genuinely can't tell if this is real or if you're just trolling us with a random picture of a bolter marine, which is sad.

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:
I genuinely can't tell if this is real or if you're just trolling us with a random picture of a bolter marine, which is sad.

I wish I was trolling.

Nothing against that Votann miniature but if 2017 was the 30th anniversary of 40k then 2023 is obviously not the 40th anniversary of 40k.
So shouldn‘t the model for the 40th anniversary not be for a system that’s 40 years old this year, like uhm WFB?!
Or was this miniature scrapped with the launch of TOW this year?
Something like this would have been perfect:

It's not a 40k anniversary, it's Warhammer in general. Also that's an AoS model that got released two odd months ago

I like the Squat. I'm fairly sure the previous Warhammer Day models were available through independent stores. If that's still true this year and I see it in stock, I might actually buy one. I'm always happy to see a model in this pose of resting a hand on a shield.

Seelenhaendler wrote:
Nothing against that Votann miniature but if 2017 was the 30th anniversary of 40k then 2023 is obviously not the 40th anniversary of 40k.
So shouldn‘t the model for the 40th anniversary not be for a system that’s 40 years old this year, like uhm WFB?!
Or was this miniature scrapped with the launch of TOW this year?
Something like this would have been perfect:

Spoiler:

I think it's best to view the whole 40 years of Warhammer thing is a marketing department initiative that is isolated from what other GW departments do. Like the last Orktober that was articles on Warhammer Community only, while the actual miniature releases happened in November. So in the spirit of Orktober, let's just assume that the Warhammer Fantasy anniversary is this year but the associated model release only come next year.

Except the ork models came in october for gw's well known system of counting month they count for at the time

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Also that's an AoS model that got released two odd months ago

Fair, but I'd say it a pretty good update for this classic guy.

At least it's not a great model that you'll regret not getting/missing out on. That limited edition FEC was great and now it's gone. This is just a cool alternate model

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 ThePaintingOwl wrote:
I genuinely can't tell if this is real or if you're just trolling us with a random picture of a bolter marine, which is sad.

I wish I was trolling.

Hmm, yes, I remember. While it's not wrong to bring a Space Marine for three decades of 40k, this model was so outright generic and boring it hurts.

The Votann model is a Dwarf in Space, but misses any nostalgia or tradition, be it Fantasy Dwarfs or Squats. It's not a fun miniature either, just a generic character model. Really underwhelming.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/20/40-years-of-warhammer-the-living-ancestor-sums-up-a-returning-race/

Bit more detail into the Warhammer Day model. It should answer some of the questions posed in the thread from people querying why this was chosen. Although, I'm sure it won't be the answer they want

 Olthannon wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/20/40-years-of-warhammer-the-living-ancestor-sums-up-a-returning-race/

Bit more detail into the Warhammer Day model. It should answer some of the questions posed in the thread from people querying why this was chosen. Although, I'm sure it won't be the answer they want

"We had a few alternate sculpts knocking about from the design process so we thought we'd produce some because it was low effort.

 Olthannon wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/20/40-years-of-warhammer-the-living-ancestor-sums-up-a-returning-race/

Bit more detail into the Warhammer Day model. It should answer some of the questions posed in the thread from people querying why this was chosen. Although, I'm sure it won't be the answer they want

Cool article and the last picture with the semi opened helmet option looks super. Cheers.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Well that's.. pretty boring to be honest. At least it's not a space marine.

yeah. It's a little bland. That's honestly my problem with the Votann models. If they updated the squat aesthetic it might look stupid but at least they'd have personality. These guys just look like chubby Halo/Marathon 2/Mass Effect soldiers.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
They'd have been better off doing a Made To Order run of all of the previous limited anniversary/celebration models.

This would have ben amazing but broken my bank balance.

This parade of awesome articles will culminate on Saturday with an extra-special live reveal show on the Warhammer Twitch Channel. Things kick off at 2pm BST, and there’s a real welter of stuff to unveil: new books and miniatures for Warhammer 40,000 and Warhammer Age of Sigmar, a new box and a new faction for Kill Team, and big news for Warhammer: The Old World.

On top of this packed preview, you can celebrate Warhammer Day with an exclusive commemorative miniature – The Ancestors’ Wrath, an Einhyr Champion from the Leagues of Votann. She will be available to pre-order on Saturday the 14th of October for two weeks only.

New faction kicks some more sand at the rumored Scouts v Scorpions bit.

No Heresy, no Munda, this event is dead to me. Dead!

The scouts are all but confirmed to be part of the kill team. There’s an image of them painted as raven guard with bases in a similar vein to the karskins

Maybe they will finally show the new ghoul kits? The pics are floating out there anyway.

big news for Warhammer: The Old World, they will reveal pictures of the Albion Giants coming in resin.....

Given all the old world box set rumors, I’m hoping they show them off since it’s likely to be 90% old kits

 GaroRobe wrote:
The scouts are all but confirmed to be part of the kill team.

You mean other than being shown off in advance of the KT reveal, shown as a 40k item, etc?

There’s an image of them painted as raven guard with bases in a similar vein to the karskins

Would love to see that. We had pictures of them as Raven Guard via the reveal article, but they never showed the bases...and it would be exceptionally weird for them to be on Kasrkin style bases, since we're supposed to be leaving the confines of industry and going into the jungle.

Going off current rumours:

40k:
Admech and crons characters

AoS:
FEC and/or next campagin book

Old world:
Release date and initial boxes/range

Kill team:
New season, supposedly scouts/scorpions

Valrak dropped the scouts/scorpions and has been saying "flying" lol.

With no new LI nor HH2 reveals, This signals that the new HH2 box and LI first wave launch is imminent, since we wont be getting new releases for em in a while..

KT21S3 box getting revealed this late means it probably isnt out until November..

 Kanluwen wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
The scouts are all but confirmed to be part of the kill team.

You mean other than being shown off in advance of the KT reveal, shown as a 40k item, etc?

There’s an image of them painted as raven guard with bases in a similar vein to the karskins

Would love to see that. We had pictures of them as Raven Guard via the reveal article, but they never showed the bases...and it would be exceptionally weird for them to be on Kasrkin style bases, since we're supposed to be leaving the confines of industry and going into the jungle.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/astra-militarum-alert-new-units-sighted-and-classic-kits-reimagined/

Karskin were a kill team and were shown off with the generic guard reveals. Shiva.paints on Instagram has the image on his story and I’ll post an image of that when I get access to a computer. The raven guard bases aren’t techy; they’re red and a few small rocks

Edit: pic posted below. Also, didn’t they release every new primaris unit this week EXCEPT for scouts? Literally exactly like the cadians ?

Here it is

 tauist wrote:
With no new LI nor HH2 reveals, This signals that the new HH2 box and LI first wave launch is imminent, since we wont be getting new releases for em in a while..

No, it just means they don't have anything new they want to show us.

Old World letssss go!

If necrons are coming up soon, new Lokhust destroyers and lord, maybe a couple of named characters into plastic?


We have gotten a lot of Kroot hints, but Kroot already got a kill team release. If it is something new, maybe something off the wall like a Sslyth band that will slot into Dark Eldar codex later?

HH I can see no announcements as hopefully next Sunday will be the 2 week release for the box and not wanting to distract from that.

Looks like it'll be a big one of The Old World. Hopefully a release date and more model reveals eh?

 GaroRobe wrote:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/astra-militarum-alert-new-units-sighted-and-classic-kits-reimagined/

Karskin were a kill team and were shown off with the generic guard reveals.

Kasrkin were shown off when the image in that link leaked. Note the date on that. 6/6/2022--Cadia Stands army set was revealed on October 8th, with the rest of the stuff starting to get articles the Monday following

Shiva.paints on Instagram has the image on his story and I’ll post an image of that when I get access to a computer. The raven guard bases aren’t techy; they’re red and a few small rocks

So not like the Kasrkin bases at all?

The image looks like it's from the codex. Bases look similar to the ones shown for the Raven Guard Jump Intercessors.

Edit: pic posted below. Also, didn’t they release every new primaris unit this week EXCEPT for scouts? Literally exactly like the cadians ?

No Ballistus Dreadnought, no sprue with Combi-Weapon Lt on it, no Terminator Captain, and no Scouts.

I think the Apothecary's missing too?

 Olthannon wrote:
Looks like it'll be a big one of The Old World. Hopefully a release date and more model reveals eh?

So they claim. I want to believe, too. But GW can't exactly be trusted when they announce that the preview or any part of it is big.

It's probably best not to expect too much and be pleasantly surprised if it's actually something good.

 Kanluwen wrote:

No Ballistus Dreadnought, no sprue with Combi-Weapon Lt on it, no Terminator Captain, and no Scouts.

I think the Apothecary's missing too?

Gravis apothecary shares a sprue with the combi-Lt and 5 pushfit sternguard.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

No Ballistus Dreadnought, no sprue with Combi-Weapon Lt on it, no Terminator Captain, and no Scouts.

I think the Apothecary's missing too?

Gravis apothecary shares a sprue with the combi-Lt and 5 pushfit sternguard.

Thank you! I didn't get Leviathan so wasn't sure.

I was specifically referring to the models that were previewed outside of leviathan. The ones that weren’t revealed until recently since the tyranids won the battle for Ogrham(?). The models you mentioned were exclusive to Leviathan and weren’t shown to get new standalone kits, unlike terminators

I could be wrong but every model from that preview came out last week, excluding scouts and the terminator hq. Once again, this is similar to karskin and necron flayed ones. Scouts were revealed early since they’d be in the codex and have rules for 40k. However the actual models will likely be exclusive to a kill team boxset and won’t be available separately for awhile.

The star of the show cannot be anything other than The Old World launch box. Not my cup of tea but the WHFB faithful need welcoming back with flowers and Champagne. It just wouldn't be right otherwise.

Wondering if AOS will be having it's own "Arks of Omen" with dungeon battles, as that would be pretty cool.

Maybe a last minute teaser trailer for a new 40K Warhammer Quest game? Blackstone Fortress contains outdated 40K datasheets for it's models, and also showing the older 40K logo. While it would be a shame to see it discontinued, GW tend to use these games to promote a range overhaul for some faction for 40K or AOS; Tzeentch(Silver Tower), Chaos Marines(Blackstone) and Soulblights(Cursed City). Saying that, Space Hulk has been out of production for a while and would be the best product to tie-in with the recent Terminators and Tyanids refresh and would also shift some Genecult combat patrol boxes.

Blackstone Fortress was moved to the Last Chance To Buy section in my local Warhammer store.

 mattl wrote:
Blackstone Fortress was moved to the Last Chance To Buy section in my local Warhammer store.

I must say that I've not seen it any stores in the last two years; indies and Warhammer stores.

SamusDrake wrote:
Space Hulk has been out of production for a while and would be the best product to tie-in with the recent Terminators and Tyanids refresh and would also shift some Genecult combat patrol boxes.

The GW clothing site did randomly bring out a Space Hulk range a couple weeks back. Coincidence?

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

 GaroRobe wrote:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/astra-militarum-alert-new-units-sighted-and-classic-kits-reimagined/

Karskin were a kill team and were shown off with the generic guard reveals.

Kasrkin were shown off when the image in that link leaked. Note the date on that. 6/6/2022--Cadia Stands army set was revealed on October 8th, with the rest of the stuff starting to get articles the Monday following

Shiva.paints on Instagram has the image on his story and I’ll post an image of that when I get access to a computer. The raven guard bases aren’t techy; they’re red and a few small rocks

So not like the Kasrkin bases at all?

The image looks like it's from the codex. Bases look similar to the ones shown for the Raven Guard Jump Intercessors.

Sorry, not watched any page by pages, but I hope you don't mean these ones:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

The GW clothing site did randomly bring out a Space Hulk range a couple weeks back. Coincidence?

Okay, that is exciting. Great to see the Genestealer box art once again!

Dudeface wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

 GaroRobe wrote:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/astra-militarum-alert-new-units-sighted-and-classic-kits-reimagined/

Karskin were a kill team and were shown off with the generic guard reveals.

Kasrkin were shown off when the image in that link leaked. Note the date on that. 6/6/2022--Cadia Stands army set was revealed on October 8th, with the rest of the stuff starting to get articles the Monday following

Shiva.paints on Instagram has the image on his story and I’ll post an image of that when I get access to a computer. The raven guard bases aren’t techy; they’re red and a few small rocks

So not like the Kasrkin bases at all?

The image looks like it's from the codex. Bases look similar to the ones shown for the Raven Guard Jump Intercessors.

Sorry, not watched any page by pages, but I hope you don't mean these ones:

Spoiler:

I do indeed.

If one factors for the glare from the camera on a page, at the very least you can tell both base rims are supposed to be the same color brown.

I have zero idea why the scout bases look so minimalistic there. They genuinely look unfinished.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

Spoiler:

 GaroRobe wrote:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/06/06/astra-militarum-alert-new-units-sighted-and-classic-kits-reimagined/

Karskin were a kill team and were shown off with the generic guard reveals.

Kasrkin were shown off when the image in that link leaked. Note the date on that. 6/6/2022--Cadia Stands army set was revealed on October 8th, with the rest of the stuff starting to get articles the Monday following

Shiva.paints on Instagram has the image on his story and I’ll post an image of that when I get access to a computer. The raven guard bases aren’t techy; they’re red and a few small rocks

So not like the Kasrkin bases at all?

The image looks like it's from the codex. Bases look similar to the ones shown for the Raven Guard Jump Intercessors.

Sorry, not watched any page by pages, but I hope you don't mean these ones:

Spoiler:

I do indeed.

Spoiler:

If one factors for the glare from the camera on a page, at the very least you can tell both base rims are supposed to be the same color brown.

I have zero idea why the scout bases look so minimalistic there. They genuinely look unfinished.

They're nothing alike, there's no reason for them being so far apart other than being (in a) set somewhere else in the setting and/or not to be displayed alongside the army.

They're closer than the Kasrkin were to the regular Cadian stuff.

As a gentle reminder though, the Kasrkin were even shown with the normal Cadian stuff in that teaser that was linked. The stuff was just shown way earlier than intended.

I will admit that the bases being painted brown isn’t typically something kill team does

No reveals for HH assaulters. Arrrr ever be they elusive...

There's always Heresy Thursdays, and Munda' Mondays for additional reveals.

 Moopy wrote:
No reveals for HH assaulters. Arrrr ever be they elusive...

Mind you that the Assault Squad is slated for winter as per the roadmap we got during Warhammer Fest. We'll be lucky to even see it released this year, and personally I wouldn't count on it.

It's still a bit early for a preview, especially since the sooner than you think Mk.III release won't happen until two weeks after the Warhammer Day preview at the earliest.

 Geifer wrote:

 Moopy wrote:
No reveals for HH assaulters. Arrrr ever be they elusive...

Mind you that the Assault Squad is slated for winter as per the roadmap we got during Warhammer Fest. We'll be lucky to even see it released this year, and personally I wouldn't count on it.

It's still a bit early for a preview, especially since the sooner than you think Mk.III release won't happen until two weeks after the Warhammer Day preview at the earliest.

Also the mystery army. Both probably will be fairly high demand, so GW may want to build up more stock.

So model 39 was the very new screamer killer and they capped the article off with:

Although we’ve nearly reached the end of our journey through the history of the world’s greatest miniatures, we’re not quite done with our celebration yet – we’ve got one more to reveal.

So I'd suspect that 40 is going to be a literal reveal to be much if any newer than the screamer killer surely?

It'll be a Primaris Marine.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It'll be a Primaris Marine.

Pff, Primaris are old news - it'll be an even newer marine variant that makes all Primaris redundant!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It'll be a Primaris Marine Lieutenant.

There. I corrected your quote.

Here are all the reveals so far:



What's the most iconic thing missing?

Red Gobbo? Chaos Dwarf? Karl Franz? High Elf? Assassin?

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It'll be a Primaris Marine.

Pff, Primaris are old news - it'll be an even newer marine variant that makes all Primaris redundant!

Yeah, first reveal of the Trimaris (not a typo) Lieutenant

 Ohman wrote:

What's the most iconic thing missing?

Red Gobbo? Chaos Dwarf? Karl Franz? High Elf? Assassin?

Settra, the King of Kings

Can't speak for anyone else, but Tyrion was iconic for me.

Shakalooloo wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
It'll be a Primaris Marine.

Pff, Primaris are old news - it'll be an even newer marine variant that makes all Primaris redundant!

Some sort of Optimized Primaris marine perhaps? You can't disguise the way it transforms the whole concept of Space Marines.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/04/40-years-of-warhammer-screaming-and-killing-through-the-ages/

We’re finally at the present day, and for our penultimate iconic miniature, what could be more appropriate than a creature that straddles almost the entire history of Warhammer 40,000?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/09/27/40-years-of-warhammer-the-soul-forge-king-is-regal-and-refined/

After many weeks trekking through the annals of Warhammer history, we’re finally at our penultimate stop.

"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

Sarouan wrote:
Settra, the King of Kings

A fine choice, maybe Arkhan The Black? But is any Tomb King-mini really iconic enough to be the final reveal?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Can't speak for anyone else, but Tyrion was iconic for me.

Tyrion and Teclis are certainly iconic fantasy characters and so far no High Elves at all.

Essen spiel ita this week. Before COVID, GW always showed things. Maybe Will we see something for minor games? (Maybe for this, there isnt new for other games un this preview)

It will be the goblin spearmen from the 4th edition Warhammer Fantasy box set.

You know, the ones that would would stab into your arm when you reached over them to move a different unit.

That is the most iconic Warhammer miniature for me.

CROM or Harry!

semajnollissor wrote:
It will be the goblin spearmen from the 4th edition Warhammer Fantasy box set.

You know, the ones that would would stab into your arm when you reached over them to move a different unit.

That is the most iconic Warhammer miniature for me.

Ahhh those Gobbos.

From an era before weird people on the Internet claimed plastic can’t do sharp detail.

 Ohman wrote:

Sarouan wrote:
Settra, the King of Kings

A fine choice, maybe Arkhan The Black? But is any Tomb King-mini really iconic enough to be the final reveal?

I could using that spot to reveal a new Settra model for Old World.

nathan2004 wrote:CROM or Harry!

The Games Day mini really should have been Harry the Hammer. Even if there aren't any rules for him specifically, he's still a Chaos Lord.

 Ohman wrote:
Here are all the reveals so far:

Spoiler:

39 Screamer Killer
38 Vashtorr
37 Votann Living Ancestor
36 Lord Kroak
35 Black Coach
34 Thunderhawk Gunship
33 Primaris Intercessor
32 Amalia Novena
31 Genestealer Cults Patriarch
30 Roboute Guilliman
29 Alarielle
28 Stormcast Liberator
27 Nagash
26 Imperial Knight Paladin
25 Angron
24 Lord Of Plagues
23 Kabalite Warriors
22 Archaon Lord Of The End Times
21 Warhammer Giant
20 Ghazghkull Thraka
19 The White Dwarf
18 Space Marine Standard Bearer
17 Deathmaster Snikch
16 Bloodthirster
15 Orc Shaman
14 Ragnar Blackmane
13 The Green Knight
12 Space Marine Dreadnought
11 Eldar Vyper Jetbike
10 Adeptus Titanicus Warlord Titan
09 The Original Rhino
08 Gotrek & Felix
07 Imperial Space Marine
06 Imperial Dragon
05 Chaos Renegade
04 Grom The Paunch
03 Skeleton Horde
02 The very first Space Marine
01 Chaos Warrior "Slambo"

What's the most iconic thing missing?

Red Gobbo? Chaos Dwarf? Karl Franz? High Elf? Assassin?

Weirdly enough, warcom hasn't mentioned chorfs in the whole year, not even when Total War 3 released a dlc with them.

Garrac wrote:

 Ohman wrote:
Here are all the reveals so far:

Spoiler:

39 Screamer Killer
38 Vashtorr
37 Votann Living Ancestor
36 Lord Kroak
35 Black Coach
34 Thunderhawk Gunship
33 Primaris Intercessor
32 Amalia Novena
31 Genestealer Cults Patriarch
30 Roboute Guilliman
29 Alarielle
28 Stormcast Liberator
27 Nagash
26 Imperial Knight Paladin
25 Angron
24 Lord Of Plagues
23 Kabalite Warriors
22 Archaon Lord Of The End Times
21 Warhammer Giant
20 Ghazghkull Thraka
19 The White Dwarf
18 Space Marine Standard Bearer
17 Deathmaster Snikch
16 Bloodthirster
15 Orc Shaman
14 Ragnar Blackmane
13 The Green Knight
12 Space Marine Dreadnought
11 Eldar Vyper Jetbike
10 Adeptus Titanicus Warlord Titan
09 The Original Rhino
08 Gotrek & Felix
07 Imperial Space Marine
06 Imperial Dragon
05 Chaos Renegade
04 Grom The Paunch
03 Skeleton Horde
02 The very first Space Marine
01 Chaos Warrior "Slambo"

What's the most iconic thing missing?

Red Gobbo? Chaos Dwarf? Karl Franz? High Elf? Assassin?

Weirdly enough, warcom hasn't mentioned chorfs in the whole year, not even when Total War 3 released a dlc with them.

Yarrick perhaps. An old fan favorite.

Yarrick's model still holds up amazingly well for a near-25 year old model.

 Ohman wrote:

Sarouan wrote:
Settra, the King of Kings

A fine choice, maybe Arkhan The Black? But is any Tomb King-mini really iconic enough to be the final reveal?

Of all the many iconic options they had for a model alongside the 40th anniversary, GW went with... a bland sci-fi dwarf without a beard. A model that people would not even recognise to "be 40K" a few years ago.

So... I have my doubts about next weeks model being "iconic".

Well, it'll either be a new White Dwarf, or a Primaris Marine (the former with a storied history with the company, the latter pretending to hold the mantle of its primogenitors).

Please let it be Asurmen or Fuegan

 Ohman wrote:
What's the most iconic thing missing?

Red Gobbo? Chaos Dwarf? Karl Franz? High Elf? Assassin?

Perhaps Lion El'Jonson, whose return has been hinted at for many years and only got a new miniature earlier this year.

The Emperor.

(No, I don't actually think so, but he's iconic!)

Oh wait, just realized we were speculating about an UNRELEASED mini they might be previewing. My bad. Disregard my previous post.

The countdown was likely originally for the announcement at Warhammer Day of the Old World launch but that is rumoured to be moved back with Legions Imperialis taking the November launch slot. But its likely we will still see at least something special for the Old World on Warhammer day, maybe the launch boxes?

So if the final 40 years of Warhammer is a reveal instead of just an already existing model is could be an Old World model that also serves as the teaser model for Warhammer day the following Saturday in the same way Klonk was the teaser model for Nova

if true this would indicate that GW does not really care about TOW at all if a 40 week count down with a big reveal event at the end can easily replaced/shifted by another niche product in the line up

it would also mean that the TOW is much smaller than LI, simply because it can be moved to make place for LI

It’ll be a classic miniature that they can reveal a new version of. Me, I’d love it if it was the Chaos Lavatory, but it’ll probably be Marine related.

 kodos wrote:
if true this would indicate that GW does not really care about TOW at all if a 40 week count down with a big reveal event at the end can easily replaced/shifted by another niche product in the line up

it would also mean that the TOW is much smaller than LI, simply because it can be moved to make place for LI

The rumours also say that the two launch boxes for Tomb King and Bretonnia only have a single new hero each with the rest only being old stuff (even the old Tomb Kings Skeletons) so if that is true GW not caring about TOW and it being a small release doesn't sound unlikely

semajnollissor wrote:
It will be the goblin spearmen from the 4th edition Warhammer Fantasy box set.

You know, the ones that would would stab into your arm when you reached over them to move a different unit.

That is the most iconic Warhammer miniature for me.

True story. I once lost my temper at my brother trying to teach him how to play and brought my hand down on that unit by mistake. I didn't need stitches, but holy crap there was so much blood.

The last model in the lineup will be a Tomb Kings skeleton warrior from The Old World to lead into the upcoming preview. Then further down the article they'll show the same picture of the same skeleton as the faction's face during the last edition of Fantasy. Then they'll show the same picture of the same skeleton with a remark on the faction's first stand alone army book during 6th ed.

It'll be the most awesomest article ever.

 Geifer wrote:
The last model in the lineup will be a Tomb Kings skeleton warrior from The Old World to lead into the upcoming preview. Then further down the article they'll show the same picture of the same skeleton as the faction's face during the last edition of Fantasy. Then they'll show the same picture of the same skeleton with a remark on the faction's first stand alone army book during 6th ed.

Haha, that would be hilarious.
Especially, if the text talks about how the skeleton changed over time and how the „new“ skeleton is the pinacle in design with minute details and perfect proportions.

However, a skeleton was already part of the reveals, so another one is rather unlikely.

With 8 out of the last 10 reveals being from the 40k universe, let‘s hope they reveal a fantasy miniature for the 40th anniversary of WFB.

Do you think they will wait until Warhammer Day for the reveal?

.....

 Scottywan82 wrote:

semajnollissor wrote:
It will be the goblin spearmen from the 4th edition Warhammer Fantasy box set.

You know, the ones that would would stab into your arm when you reached over them to move a different unit.

That is the most iconic Warhammer miniature for me.

True story. I once lost my temper at my brother trying to teach him how to play and brought my hand down on that unit by mistake. I didn't need stitches, but holy crap there was so much blood.

I got the spearpoints under my fingernails a lot. That stings for days.

There’s an image of a built Pegasus floating around. I wonder if GW will reveal the full model now or wait a week?

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Ohman wrote:

Sarouan wrote:
Settra, the King of Kings

A fine choice, maybe Arkhan The Black? But is any Tomb King-mini really iconic enough to be the final reveal?

I could using that spot to reveal a new Settra model for Old World.

Yep, and it is an easy way to make the link to The Old World, the continuation of Warhammer Battle that started these 40 years of Warhammer. Arkhan is nice, but is not the focus of TOW's new campaign right now. Settra the Imperishable is definitely it, though.

Well, easy way doesn't mean it's the one chosen. GW ways are only known to them.

I admit Harry the Hammer is another iconic figure suited.

 SgtEeveell wrote:


"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

Pretty sure they do since it's the second to last article.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 SgtEeveell wrote:


"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

Pretty sure they do since it's the second to last article.

It's used twice in 2 articles in 2 contexts, correctly, both times.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 SgtEeveell wrote:


"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

Pretty sure they do since it's the second to last article.

Pretty sure they also used it on #38 Vashtorr as well as #39 Screamer Killer.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 SgtEeveell wrote:


"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

Pretty sure they do since it's the second to last article.

Pretty sure they also used it on #38 Vashtorr as well as #39 Screamer Killer.

And as pointed out, the context in the Vashtorr article was still correct usage.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 SgtEeveell wrote:


"You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means."

Pretty sure they do since it's the second to last article.

Pretty sure they also used it on #38 Vashtorr as well as #39 Screamer Killer.

On 38 they say penultimate stop (referring to the article).

On 39 they say penultimate miniature, which we therefore assume the final one is to be revealed next weekend with no article.

If there's an article 40, then you can complain.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

semajnollissor wrote:
It will be the goblin spearmen from the 4th edition Warhammer Fantasy box set.

You know, the ones that would would stab into your arm when you reached over them to move a different unit.

That is the most iconic Warhammer miniature for me.

True story. I once lost my temper at my brother trying to teach him how to play and brought my hand down on that unit by mistake. I didn't need stitches, but holy crap there was so much blood.

That unit became instantly dedicated to Khorne then! BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!!!

 Scottywan82 wrote:
True story. I once lost my temper at my brother trying to teach him how to play and brought my hand down on that unit by mistake. I didn't need stitches, but holy crap there was so much blood.

I have 12 of those because of OG Warhammer Quest. They were 2nd hand, and the person who painted them did them in Christmas colours.

Einhyr Champion Is £24, €31.50 and as it’s on the retail price list should go out to stores.

Yeah I know a few stores over here are taking expressions of interest for the Einhyr Champion.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/09/warhammer-day-is-coming-and-so-are-some-juicy-new-reveals/

He is the first of many reveals coming this week for Warhammer: The Old World and a host of other games, but you’ll need to tune into the live stream to catch them.

Wonder if plastic or resin.

I’m gonna assume resin, and hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Its resin

 Matrindur wrote:
Its resin

Shame :(

Don't like that leather piece he has on his chest, makes the torso look tiny. Might be alright with a different paintjob to make the pieces more distinct.

 Matrindur wrote:
Its resin

So daft they couldn't have put it in the article.

Loving the idea of getting some Bretonnians, kitbashing them with 40K bits and adding them to the bases of Imperial Knights.

SamusDrake wrote:
Loving the idea of getting some Bretonnians, kitbashing them with 40K bits and adding them to the bases of Imperial Knights.

Yo dawg, we heard you like Knights...

 necrontyrOG wrote:


Yo dawg, we heard you like Knights...

LOL. I do! Got'em on the brain...

Hmph, we have resin models at home.

I'm totally not excited at all.

Hm, so Sylvaneth focus for Dawnbringers 3? I'm down with that.

Dawnbringers: Book III - Plague of Beetles

"Reenact the heroic struggle of newly founded cities against the most terrible foe of all - pests trying to eat the harvest! The mighty warriors of Sigmar find themselves in an apocalyptic struggle against a multitude of malignant creatures the likes of which the Mortal Realms have never seen. When the harvests are devoured and gone, what's left to fill the bellies of nobles and peasants alike?"

Obvious lead-up to Flesheater Courts release is obvious.

The beetles have Kurnothi runes.

GIB FLESH EATER COURTS

 Kanluwen wrote:
The beetles have Kurnothi runes.

Where have you seen those out of curiousity?

It's on a few of the Underworlds warband cards, at least if I'm remembering right?

That said:
It's antlers on a hooded head.
Not much else it can be!

It’s not an exact match but it does look like antlers on the bugs

One of those Bugs has a Rat Face...

And the 40 years of Warhammer retrospective ends with... a new Age of Sigmar model.

Uh huh...

Great model to finish on.

I'm not bothered so much the model they finished on, but just how little the article focused on the history of the empire range. Definitely could have gone back through the various editions, at least as far as 5th (not sure GW have the rights to ones much before that)

I guess we were stupid to think that they wouldn't use the final slot on their countdown to spruik something new rather than looking back at their history, or at something that truly shaped their miniature history. *shrugs*

Guess evolution of old empire models shown to the spiritual succor not enough?

They showed in essence old and new version of kit.

At least for me seeing old empire models brought memories

tneva82 wrote:
Guess evolution of old empire models shown to the spiritual succor not enough?

Nah it's my own damned fault. I got it into my head that this big countdown was leading to something, some final reveal that would be a limited event model that celebrated 40 years of Citadel Miniatures and not "Here's what we made last week... I guess?".

I expected far too much of them.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Guess evolution of old empire models shown to the spiritual succor not enough?

Nah it's my own damned fault. I got it into my head that this big countdown was leading to something, some final reveal that would be a limited event model that celebrated 40 years of Citadel Miniatures and not "Here's what we made last week... I guess?".

I expected far too much of them.

If the rumours are true it would have lead to the announcement of the Old World release on Warhammer day but since Legions Imperialis took that slot and TOW was moved back to next year that won't happen.
Otherwise is would have been a nice transition from the first AoS humans into the human launch faction for TOW. They will still likely reveal a bit more stuff for TOW on Saturday than just a single model like all the other times but it likely won't be as big as if everything went as planned

I would have expected FEC focus but ok...

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I would have expected FEC focus but ok...

Do we expect them this year? I don't know if there are any rumors regarding that, but we still get more Dawnbringers and Cities of Sigmar and there isn't much of the year left. I figured Flesheater Courts are more of a later reveal, like on Christmas Day or something.

With the notation of "contaiment about to be breached!"...


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 Geifer wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I would have expected FEC focus but ok...

Do we expect them this year? I don't know if there are any rumors regarding that, but we still get more Dawnbringers and Cities of Sigmar and there isn't much of the year left. I figured Flesheater Courts are more of a later reveal, like on Christmas Day or something.

It's an open secret that FEC are coming. One of their kits has leaked out into the wilds even.

I'd expect we'll see them coming, and I'm expecting an army set with them this year.

Well that’s gonna be something Ad Mech

I'm always onboard for new AdMech and new GSC as they're so ubiquitously useful for grimdark gaming even outside GW.

Well AdMech and Necrons are next up on the roadmap, so... hopefully they both get new things. Presumably they're showing some of it off saturday.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I would have expected FEC focus but ok...

A FEC focus for '40 years of warhammer' would involve showing off the old metal ghouls, which were far superior to the chunky, post-apocalyptic mutated orks currently filling the line.
They aren't going to do that.

Voss wrote:
Well AdMech and Necrons are next up on the roadmap, so... hopefully they both get new things. Presumably they're showing some of it off saturday.

Hopefully new things for AdMech, but for Crons it would be fine at a minimum to have updated Lokhust Destroyers/Lord and some characters (maybe even another ctan) ported to plastic.

Supposedly Necrons are getting three characters redone.

AdMech is supposed to be getting a Sicarian assassin hero.

AdMech could use some more "proper" kits, and Necrons really need their Destroyers redone. Other than that, characters for both sound reasonable - hoping for Trazyn and Orrikan in plastic!

Honestly the things I'm most curious about are Kill-Team. I mean, I don't give a damn about Kill-Team the game - never played it, never will - but it holds the most potential for new terrain.

 Darnok wrote:
AdMech could use some more "proper" kits

That's actually where I think KT is going to come into play. The video for the new season we got 5 months ago smacked of AdMech, and we've gotten a hint that there's a "new faction" coming into play for KT.

With the weird constant changes to Skitarii we've been seeing, I think we're finally due for a "veteran" style of unit for AdMech and KT feels like a good spot to introduce that.

and Necrons really need their Destroyers redone. Other than that, characters for both sound reasonable - hoping for Trazyn and Orrikan in plastic!

Supposedly it's Imotekh, Orrikan the Diviner, and a new multipart Overlord.

 Darnok wrote:
AdMech could use some more "proper" kits, and Necrons really need their Destroyers redone. Other than that, characters for both sound reasonable - hoping for Trazyn and Orrikan in plastic!

I'm not sure Admech need "proper" kits really, they've gained a bigger range in their 10 year or so existence than several other armies combined who launched in the interim. They also have a unit for almost every niche covered.

There was some concept art from Jes which mentioned "Hephestons"..

Yeah, I know : a link to the Site That Must Not Be Named. Weapon concepts just below the Dunerider sketch :

https://spikeybits.com/2023/04/14-of-the-best-jes-goodwin-warhammer-artwork-sketches.html

Dudeface wrote:

 Darnok wrote:
AdMech could use some more "proper" kits, and Necrons really need their Destroyers redone. Other than that, characters for both sound reasonable - hoping for Trazyn and Orrikan in plastic!

I'm not sure Admech need "proper" kits really, they've gained a bigger range in their 10 year or so existence than several other armies combined who launched in the interim. They also have a unit for almost every niche covered.

You are not wrong, but still. Some more variety in the robot department would be nice, and maybe some variants on existing kits (Dunecrawler, hoverboat).

And something unique for Kill Team would also be welcome.

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

There was some concept art from Jes which mentioned "Hephestons"..

Yeah, I know : a link to the Site That Must Not Be Named. Weapon concepts just below the Dunerider sketch :

https://spikeybits.com/2023/04/14-of-the-best-jes-goodwin-warhammer-artwork-sketches.html

Could you just post the image?


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Dudeface wrote:

 Darnok wrote:
AdMech could use some more "proper" kits, and Necrons really need their Destroyers redone. Other than that, characters for both sound reasonable - hoping for Trazyn and Orrikan in plastic!

I'm not sure Admech need "proper" kits really, they've gained a bigger range in their 10 year or so existence than several other armies combined who launched in the interim. They also have a unit for almost every niche covered.

They really don't though. The shuffling they did with combining the two into one has created some rather notable issues. We've seen Skitarii change from "elite" infantry to horde and now to being effectively Guardsmen +1.

There is, at the least, a need for another "Troop" equivalent.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Honestly the things I'm most curious about are Kill-Team. I mean, I don't give a damn about Kill-Team the game - never played it, never will - but it holds the most potential for new terrain.

I predict, another boxed set like Ashes of Faith. That will also sell out in about two minutes.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

There was some concept art from Jes which mentioned "Hephestons"..

Yeah, I know : a link to the Site That Must Not Be Named. Weapon concepts just below the Dunerider sketch :

https://spikeybits.com/2023/04/14-of-the-best-jes-goodwin-warhammer-artwork-sketches.html

Could you just post the image?


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Dudeface wrote:

 Darnok wrote:
AdMech could use some more "proper" kits, and Necrons really need their Destroyers redone. Other than that, characters for both sound reasonable - hoping for Trazyn and Orrikan in plastic!

I'm not sure Admech need "proper" kits really, they've gained a bigger range in their 10 year or so existence than several other armies combined who launched in the interim. They also have a unit for almost every niche covered.

They really don't though. The shuffling they did with combining the two into one has created some rather notable issues. We've seen Skitarii change from "elite" infantry to horde and now to being effectively Guardsmen +1.

There is, at the least, a need for another "Troop" equivalent.

Another troop that do what exactly though? There's kataphrons for heavier weapons, there's the infiltrators and the priests for melee and or more elite infantry.

They have as many troop options as most armies do.

But Electro-Priests aren't "elite infantry"...?
They are infantry who were in the Elite slot, and intended to be big blobs.
You are welcome to call that nitpicking, but remember at the same time we had weird crap all over the place in Elites.

As of right now, the "elite infantry" role is Sicarian and Pteraxii--both of whom are the same 'frame'. There's room for a more elite version of Skitarii to show up, or a "lesser" version to allow for the two current versions(Vanguard and Rangers) to be showcased as being more elite.

I think they should add another Automata unit to the AdMech, like the 41st Millennium version of the Vorax.

If I could have ONE thing for AdMech, it'd be a box of standard servitors with servo arms and maybe an option for laslocks. Seriously, we need regular plastic servitors that Mahreenz, Guard, and Admech can use.

I'd like some kind of absurd artillery piece for admech as well as some tougher elites.

Personal wishlist?

I'm hoping that the Kill-Team is an Explorator based one, with Tech-Guard as the "base" of everything.

I'm hoping that Servitors are on the way as well. It's daft that we still haven't gotten them. Just hopeful they're not going to be a Newcromunda styled set.

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

There was some concept art from Jes which mentioned "Hephestons"..

Yeah, I know : a link to the Site That Must Not Be Named. Weapon concepts just below the Dunerider sketch :

https://spikeybits.com/2023/04/14-of-the-best-jes-goodwin-warhammer-artwork-sketches.html

I clicked the link and it froze my computer.

 Olthannon wrote:
I'd like some kind of absurd artillery piece for admech as well as some tougher elites.

A micro ordinatus as a lord of war would be awesome. Maybe plasticize the terrax drill and treat it as a subterranean drop pod? Normal servitors would be useful but a bit plain. For elite infantry, plastic thallax?

 GaroRobe wrote:
I clicked the link and it froze my computer.

AdBlock having a stroke, no doubt.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
I clicked the link and it froze my computer.

AdBlock having a stroke, no doubt.

Thankfully Ad Nauseam can take it

Kanluwen wrote:But Electro-Priests aren't "elite infantry"...?
They are infantry who were in the Elite slot, and intended to be big blobs.
You are welcome to call that nitpicking, but remember at the same time we had weird crap all over the place in Elites.

As of right now, the "elite infantry" role is Sicarian and Pteraxii--both of whom are the same 'frame'. There's room for a more elite version of Skitarii to show up, or a "lesser" version to allow for the two current versions(Vanguard and Rangers) to be showcased as being more elite.

But you can't tell me what they would functionally do? Skitarii already have multi shot anti-infantry standard weapons, they have access to anti vehicle or elite special weapons.

What I think you're saying is "put their BS back up" which would be a total waste of a unit entry and a waste of a kit. Otherwise its better to simply make skitarii less like a Guardsman, it that's what they want.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I think they should add another Automata unit to the AdMech, like the 41st Millennium version of the Vorax.

Make mechanicum plastic and I'll sell a kidney and start horus heresy. But this is a far better idea even if not needed by the army pre-se.

Dudeface wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:But Electro-Priests aren't "elite infantry"...?
They are infantry who were in the Elite slot, and intended to be big blobs.
You are welcome to call that nitpicking, but remember at the same time we had weird crap all over the place in Elites.

As of right now, the "elite infantry" role is Sicarian and Pteraxii--both of whom are the same 'frame'. There's room for a more elite version of Skitarii to show up, or a "lesser" version to allow for the two current versions(Vanguard and Rangers) to be showcased as being more elite.

But you can't tell me what they would functionally do?

No, I can't tell you what my wishlisted for/hypothetical range expanding units would do. Which one do you want to know about?

Skitarii already have multi shot anti-infantry standard weapons, they have access to anti vehicle or elite special weapons.

What I think you're saying is "put their BS back up" which would be a total waste of a unit entry and a waste of a kit. Otherwise its better to simply make skitarii less like a Guardsman, it that's what they want.

Simply put, I can't give you a hard and fast "this is what it would do". Because clearly even GW doesn't know what they want, given that they nerfed Skitarii to a 5+ save and now have brought it back to the 4+.

In an ideal world?
Skitarii Rangers, Skystalkers, and Raiders would all have a point higher BS while the Vanguard based elements would have a point higher T.
In an ideal world, a "veteran" unit would be using the rules out of the Charadon AoR and have some different, more esoteric weaponry.
IE:
"Veteran Rangers" would come standard with something like the Magnarail Lance, while "Veteran Vanguard" would have Volkite weaponry.

Make mechanicum plastic and I'll sell a kidney and start horus heresy. But this is a far better idea even if not needed by the army pre-se.

Tech-Thralls are the other end of the spectrum of what I've been hoping for, and are what I would envision being the "core" of any Explorator KT.

Currently on YouTube there are the following private videos

AoS 3
40K 2
Killteam 1
ToW 0 (so far)

As was seen last time they can run a few reveals in 1 video so videos aren’t always an indicator of what’s coming.

 DaveC wrote:
Currently on YouTube there are the following private videos

AoS 3
40K 2
Killteam 1
ToW 0 (so far)

As was seen last time they can run a few reveals in 1 video so videos aren’t always an indicator of what’s coming.

But how many reveals can they run in zero videos? Maybe they're sneakily trying to set expectations for the big Old World reveal they've been on about.

Disappointed if AdMech are only getting a single character model, because I remember when the new edition stream happened and the codex roadmap was revealed they made a point of emphasising that the codexes would come with new models plural.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Disappointed if AdMech are only getting a single character model, because I remember when the new edition stream happened and the codex roadmap was revealed they made a point of emphasising that the codexes would come with new models plural.

I think that would be reading too far into it or poorly worded context. It's unrealistic to expect more than a character for some books.

Dudeface wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Disappointed if AdMech are only getting a single character model, because I remember when the new edition stream happened and the codex roadmap was revealed they made a point of emphasising that the codexes would come with new models plural.

I think that would be reading too far into it or poorly worded context. It's unrealistic to expect more than a character for some books.

I just rewatched the bit of the stream and his exact wording was ‘the other thing to note about these codexes is that all of them will come with at least some new miniatures’. It’s poorly worded but I definitely think there’s an implication of more than just one character with them there. Obviously that might not be the case, but I don’t think it’s entirely on me for expecting otherwise.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:
Disappointed if AdMech are only getting a single character model, because I remember when the new edition stream happened and the codex roadmap was revealed they made a point of emphasising that the codexes would come with new models plural.

I think that would be reading too far into it or poorly worded context. It's unrealistic to expect more than a character for some books.

I just rewatched the bit of the stream and his exact wording was ‘the other thing to note about these codexes is that all of them will come with at least some new miniatures’. It’s poorly worded but I definitely think there’s an implication of more than just one character with them there. Obviously that might not be the case, but I don’t think it’s entirely on me for expecting otherwise.

Not at all, it's their usual ambiguous wording so it can fit into whatever happens. If there's lots then they delivered on a promise, if there's only 1 it's simply people misinterpreting it. I'm actually going to be amazed if theres even 1 new mini for chaos knights this time round tbh, unless it's a dominus add-on sprue or something.

Might very well be that KT is going to be used like WarCry was for this past Gnarlwood season:

Bulking out books.

Im surprised there’s no count down o. The community site

Voss wrote:
Well AdMech and Necrons are next up on the roadmap, so... hopefully they both get new things. Presumably they're showing some of it off saturday.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I would have expected FEC focus but ok...

A FEC focus for '40 years of warhammer' would involve showing off the old metal ghouls, which were far superior to the chunky, post-apocalyptic mutated orks currently filling the line.
They aren't going to do that.

Amen, brother...

I never should have converted all mine into Wracks back before they had dedicated models...

 GaroRobe wrote:
Im surprised there’s no count down o. The community site

Quite. So as a reminder:

Soooooooooooon!

There's at least 4 Brettonians in there

Kill Team Striking Scorpions confirmed?

Thunderstrike Liberators etc. Stormcast there?

Scorpions vs Scouts

Skitarii/Mechanicum (2nd top row) looks like a sniper with a Radium jezzail..

Some Admech and Necron?

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Kill Team Striking Scorpions confirmed?

What a disappointment on that front.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Some Admech and Necron?

Ol' Emo-tech is back by the looks.

The Necron is clearly Imotekh with his clawed hand held high pose

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Some Admech and Necron?

At least one ad mech character, based off leaks. And maybe 3 necrons?

Bottom left - Admech or Dark Mechanicum something?

Watch bottom left be a "specialist" Striking Scorpion with SCORPION CLAWS!!11!!!

I'm very much wondering how they're going to include/shoehorn Kill Team Specialists into Striking Scorpions (both model & fluff-wise)..

Their marksmen will be able to throw swords.

Would be a surprise if Scorpions turned to be just a regular release instead KT

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Would be a surprise if Scorpions turned to be just a regular release instead KT

Honestly, I'd prefer that : no silly specialist shenanigans and the models not being locked into a boxed set. Yes please..

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

I'm very much wondering how they're going to include/shoehorn Kill Team Specialists into Striking Scorpions (both model & fluff-wise)..

They will have a sixth member, an adorable pet/mascot giant scorpion.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Old-Four-Arms wrote:

I'm very much wondering how they're going to include/shoehorn Kill Team Specialists into Striking Scorpions (both model & fluff-wise)..

They will have a sixth member, an adorable pet/mascot giant scorpion.

Duinclaw, prepare to get some serious competition..

It is up!

Imotkeh looks great, but also bland?

I'm not sure I like the head it looks so long? The cloak looks nice but also the only real special looking part?

Very nice. At least he’s not Finecast.

Aiight. It's... fine I guess.

For a guy who literally can't move his face, Imotekh has a really derpy looking face.

Am I crazy or did that video feel quicker than they usually do?

Be interested to see him painted in a more similar scheme the the resin model.

I do like that he still has his leg doodles.

Codex cover

 Kanluwen wrote:
Am I crazy or did that video feel quicker than they usually do?

Yeah, I did expect at least 15 min. of bla bla before first mini.

Never mind, I forgot that was the old model.

Got him mixed up with this guy

Imhotekh looks great, but... this better not be it for the new Codex.

Edit: Yeah, confirmed there is more, just no details yet.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Am I crazy or did that video feel quicker than they usually do?

Yeah, I did expect at least 15 min. of bla bla before first mini.

I meant the video itself. It felt like a flash.

Did Imotek lose a finger off his left hand between models?

Nice little update to that older mini.

 Darnok wrote:
Imhotekh looks great, but... this better not be it for the new Codex.

Just confirmed it's not the only thing.

Wow. Not even showing all the new Necrons. Great...

Confirmed more necron coming, which is what Valrak said as well

So single character and the codex?

Nah they did just say there was other minis as well.

No, it's literally confirmed on the stream there are more things coming.

Nice to see more characters coming to plastic for the Necrons

And the new stilt-sniper looks cool for Admech

Probably going to be the same for Mechanicum : Codex, one character and that's it (for today)

Incoming Stiltman edits.

Now... this guy is just silly.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Did Imotek lose a finger off his left hand between models?

Yes.

Mars bars get smaller; Necrons lose fingers.

I am not sure if Admech sniper is looking awesome or stupid.

So "skitarii on stilts" was accurte

I was wondering if it would have been like a rust stalker with their robo legs, but he's straight up stiltman

That's just an odd fething ad mech mini. I was hoping for them to be a squad.

Sydonian Skatros is cool, but unless its based on a piece of artwork I wasn't ware of, GW is totally ripping off a number of independent creators with that design.

 Matrindur wrote:

LOLWUT?

Codex cover:

I do like the helmet options though.

AdMech sniper thingy looks creepy and cool - and a major PITA to build. Does look super fragile as well, so AdMech as usual I guess.

Shades of Dishonoured with this dude.

I think Valrak said we'd get a new Orikan too, so I guess that's another thing to look forward too. But he did say the person did not say we'd get Trazyn

The stilt guy made me do a double take, he just looks so DERP. Definitely feels like the design team did it for the memes for that guy.

 Matrindur wrote:

Absolutely ridiculous model.

I love him! I'm going to have to convert some for my Epic 40k force!

 GaroRobe wrote:
I think Valrak said we'd get a new Orikan too, so I guess that's another thing to look forward too. But he did say not Trazyn

He said Imotekh, Orikan and a generic character

 Dryaktylus wrote:
Now... this guy is just silly.

'The guys from Dishonoured were cool. What if we do that but make it look like they can't bend their knees?'

I do wonder how effect snipers are, when they stand out that much

A sigmarine chaplain on a dragon.

WHY ARE STORMCAST GETTING ALL THE COOL DRAGONS!?

I can't wait to see that dragon turned into a vampire dragon

So a chaplain on a dragon.

They're constantly knocking it out of the box with dragons in AoS.

Now that's more like it.

I could not care less about Stormcasts right now, but that is one amazing Chaos Lord on Dragon. Looking great!

chaos0xomega wrote:
Sydonian Skatros is cool, but unless its based on a piece of artwork I wasn't ware of, GW is totally ripping off a number of independent creators with that design.

They mentioned this setup back in the Skitarii codex.

Codex: Skitarii wrote:Taking their inspiration from the stilt-legged seekers of the Sydonian Mask, the Tech-Priest Aldebrac Vingh perfected the Ironstrider engine in early M33.

I guess it was only a matter of time before I found an AdMech mini I don't like.

Meanwhile, in AOS:

"Do you think they'll finally show the FEC?"
"Here's a Sigmarine Chaplain on a Dragon!!!"



Cool mini though. No doubts there.

Relictor looks bloody awesome!

For anyone not remembering he was the Lord Relictor in the original AoS starter

and so the updates of the AoS 1 Stormcast begins.

That dragon will look amazing in some Blanchitsu colour scheme.

 Kanluwen wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Sydonian Skatros is cool, but unless its based on a piece of artwork I wasn't ware of, GW is totally ripping off a number of independent creators with that design.

They mentioned this setup back in the Skitarii codex.

Codex: Skitarii wrote:Taking their inspiration from the stilt-legged seekers of the Sydonian Mask, the Tech-Priest Aldebrac Vingh perfected the Ironstrider engine in early M33.

That's actually useful to see thanks. I did wonder why the hell they went for this look.

 Kanluwen wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Sydonian Skatros is cool, but unless its based on a piece of artwork I wasn't ware of, GW is totally ripping off a number of independent creators with that design.

They mentioned this setup back in the Skitarii codex.

Codex: Skitarii wrote:Taking their inspiration from the stilt-legged seekers of the Sydonian Mask, the Tech-Priest Aldebrac Vingh perfected the Ironstrider engine in early M33.

Back in the old, old necromunda stuff there's illustrations of stilt dudes that are very similar, and i think there's a Blanche vignette of one from ca. 2005 or so, that concept is very old.

 DaveC wrote:
and so the updates of the AoS 1 Stormcast begins.

To be fair, they never released a lord relictor on its own.

Give me ghouls!

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Give me ghouls!

Kurnothi!

 Darnok wrote:
I could not care less about Stormcasts right now, but that is one amazing Chaos Lord on Dragon. Looking great!

Yeah! This model is going to straight into my Slaanesh not-stormcast force.

Oh that beetle is a painters dream

Do Sylvaneth players want more characters, or more units?

All hail Bel-Thanos

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Give me ghouls!

Kurnothi!

Yeah, it looks great but ghouls!!!

That is a nice dragon.

I'm not convinced at all by the stilt guy. Imotekh looks fine but not exciting. Weird not to show the other two Necron releases off.

The little eyes on the front of his face seem unneccessary

How does a tree blow a horn..?

Gods AoS keeps knocking them out like crazy with awesome!

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How does a tree blow a horn..?

Same way a Skeleton does, magic. Don't be boring.

The Treeman guy is not for me as it is, but oddly enough the bug gives me Tomb Kings vibes...

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How does a tree blow a horn..?

Skeletons have horns too

Edit: Ninja'd

Well he quite clearly a member of the woodwind section. But seriously cool bug

 Darnok wrote:
The Treeman guy is not for me as it is, but oddly enough the bug gives me Tomb Kings vibes...

It looks very much like one of these WoW egyptian-themed spider dudes, that's probably how you draw the connection.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
How does a tree blow a horn..?

Skeletons have horns too

Edit: Ninja'd

I always assumed that skeletons weren't actually making noise by blowing horns, the same way I assume that they're not actually inspired by their banners. Being dead and all...