should you be able to re-roll a dice if you drop it

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**Gorechild**

Okay, your about to roll a lot of saves (or anything else, doesn't really matter)
you've got a hand full of dice.
you "accidentally drop one" on the board just before you roll.
it lands on a 1 so it would be a fail.
but the player claims they didn't roll it properly so it shouldn't count and re-rolls it with the rest of the dice.

should they be allowed to do it? or should you have to stay with your original result even if you "didn't properly roll it"?

**Lordhat**

It's usually obvious that a player didn't mean to roll the die (like the fact that the rest didn't go with). I say yes, let them pick it up and roll.

**Gorechild**

regardless of the result? so if they make a save for example by dropping it they should have to re-roll it too?

**DogOfWar**

Reroll or don't reroll but make sure you are consistent. The opponent who wants to reroll his accidental 1's, but at the same time is happy to keep his accidental 6's, is pretty annoying.

DoW

**Gwar!**

No, you drop the dice, it counts as rolled. It stops the situation DoW mentions.

**Lordhat**

Regardless. Most people I know simply won't keep the result of a 'miss-roll', beneficial or not. OR, they just roll the rest as soon as they realize one or two have already dropped. I just find that it's not that important a thing to worry about if so many dice are being rolled that the roller has trouble holding them all.

**Gorechild**

i was saying it shouldn't be re-rolled just to keep some consistency.
but some gamers get annoyed with it if it can result in high cost units loosing combats ect and facing being chased and killed

**marv335**

I always re-roll a dropped dice, regardless of the result.
same as if it goes off the board/onto the floor.

**Gorechild**

yeah, i agree if its gone on the floor.
but if its dropped on the board just before the rest are rolled i cant really see it as being fair just to save an extra man from being killed?
do most people agree??

**DogOfWar**

Gorechild wrote:yeah, i agree if its gone on the floor.
but if its dropped on the board just before the rest are rolled i cant really see it as being fair just to save an extra man from being killed?
do most people agree??

I don't think I understand what you're trying to say...

If you're saying "you shouldn't reroll it, no matter what the result" then I agree.
If you're saying "you should reroll it, no matter what the result" then I also agree.

But if you're saying "you shouldn't reroll it if it's a failure, but should reroll it if it's a success" then that seems like you're just trying to either punish someone for dropping a die on the table prior to rolling their saves, or else simply maximize the amount of failed saves your opponent will roll. Either way, I think that's pretty unsportsmanlike.

DoW

**unistoo**

We play that if it hasn't left your hand with all the other dice of the roll, you wait, and pick it up again before you roll - regardless of what the result is. We often also call out the fact that it was dropped before it comes to rest, so that there's no question about it.

**Sirius42**

unistoo wrote:We play that if it hasn't left your hand with all the other dice of the roll, you wait, and pick it up again before you roll - regardless of what the result is. We often also call out the fact that it was dropped before it comes to rest, so that there's no question about it.

Same here, you roll em all together, any that pop out before that get rolled again regardless of result. (unless someone has decided to role them all one at a time for a tense moment)

**CT GAMER**

Gorechild wrote:Okay, your about to roll a lot of saves (or anything else, doesn't really matter)
you've got a hand full of dice.
you "accidentally drop one" on the board just before you roll.
it lands on a 1 so it would be a fail.
but the player claims they didn't roll it properly so it shouldn't count and re-rolls it with the rest of the dice.

should they be allowed to do it? or should you have to stay with your original result even if you "didn't properly roll it"?

So what happens when they drop one and make a save and say they meant to roll it?

Easiest thing to do is say that any dice put into the hand that leaves hand and rolls on table is a roll...

Othe rthen that you are gonna need to have a word that must be uttered to "activate" any dice held...

**Albatross**

Nah, as soon as it leaves your hand it's in play, I reckon - saves fannying about. If it lands on the floor or is cocked, depends on your house-rules, but that's a re-roll for my money.

**RustyKnight**

I reroll any that I drop, as do most of the people where I play. There is one player who's a little dodgy about it though.

**perplexiti**

If it's dropped on the table it's usually pretty obvious if it was a mistake and we reroll regardless of result for our group. Although if the rest get rolled before the dropped one stops no one complains.

And if it falls off the table it counts as a fail, stops people throwing the dice too hard and having them fly all over the place.

Since we started doing that a couple of years ago we've had probably 4 or 5 dice off the table, so it's worked however harsh it sounds.

**orkcommander**

No because it was never rolled in the first place so whatever number was on that die is irrelevant. It simply gets picked up and is rolled for the first time with the rest of the dice. That’s why it doesn’t get re-rolled it just gets rolled.

**Mattlov**

marv335 wrote:I always re-roll a dropped dice, regardless of the result.
same as if it goes off the board/onto the floor.

This is how I see most people play it.

**gardeth**

Mattlov wrote:
marv335 wrote:I always re-roll a dropped dice, regardless of the result.
same as if it goes off the board/onto the floor.

This is how I see most people play it.

Same as i do it, and is it just me or do the dropped dice always come up frakkin 6's?

**Scalp**

If the player gets mad, instead of re-rolling it, I'd toss all the other dice in your hand at it, and it would force it to roll/mix it up with the others.
The should make him right furious

**anticitizen013**

I do the same as LordHat. Clumsiness happens. No big deal.

**Tim the Biovore**

You always have to re-roll it. I tried to have a game of 40k with a (cheating) friend and he kept "dropping" it on the floor "accidentally" and the whole thing was screwed up. "No, that one was dropped" or "Yeah, that 6 was intentional". These things spoil a game.

**Horst**

well, my general approach to this is whenever they are reaching for the die before it stops rolling, it gets a re-roll, no matter what. if they don't reach for it before it stops rolling, then it counts, no matter what.

its all about the reaction time.

**Albatross**

You always have to re-roll it.

Sez who? Depends on the consensus of players around the table, or general house rules.

**Tri**

every thing goes into the tumbler it doesn't count till I roll them out the tumbler.

**jmurph**

Seems like a sportsmanship issue. Does the guy always want to reroll those that drop early? Fine, whatever. Or does he only want to reroll the ones that drop failures- no way.

Personally, if it leaves my hand and lands on the surface where the result is clear, it stands. Rolling en masse is for convenience after all, and a roll is a roll.

**Blood4Khorne**

House rule, you and who you play with should decide and agree.

**Wolf**

Well normally when I play, if it is dropped before they role, just keep the results, unless they are willing to re roll all of them, then I'm slightly impartial

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If theyre on the floor and off the table they are instantly re-rolled

**Minaith1989**

If i was playing against family or friends then i'd let them reroll since I know i could trust them. If I was battling some unknown I'd probably say no rerolls are allowed. It kills any potential problems that way.

**Albatross**

@Minaith1989 - You're the only other person from Boro I've seen on here!