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Skaven add rank bonus to their Ld after Steadfast kicks in. So they'll almost always have LD of 5+X, where X is the number of ranks.

Interesting resolution of the Incantation issue.

Swordmasters... Wow... talk about ridiculous unit. they continue to get their ASF and more than likely rerolls to hit. granted they will get slaughtered if attacked back.

The erratas didnt seem to change nearly as much as expected, at least not for my armies!

Slightly off topic and very geeky but I was reading the PDF on my iPhone 3G as work internet doesnt like the GW site. Anyway it gave me the option to read the PDF in iBooks. It took a while over the Edge network (rather than 3G or WiFi) but it's much more ledgeable and a kinda cool way to carry the PDFs about

Bother, Skaven Storm Banner changed to one use only. They didn't do that in the last FAQ.

So does this mean that Dogs of War are officially dead, since all of the referencing army books say to ignore them?

solkan wrote:So does this mean that Dogs of War are officially dead, since all of the referencing army books say to ignore them?

Youch!

Probably!

Same for Chaos Dwarfs too, I'd imagine...

And, most of the FAQs are 3 or 4 pages.

Skaven FAQ is at 7 pages.

I've always hated Skaven...

solkan wrote:So does this mean that Dogs of War are officially dead, since all of the referencing army books say to ignore them?

Fingers crossed.

xowainx wrote:

solkan wrote:So does this mean that Dogs of War are officially dead, since all of the referencing army books say to ignore them?

Fingers crossed.

For...?

Alpharius wrote:
And, most of the FAQs are 3 or 4 pages.

Skaven FAQ is at 7 pages.

I've always hated Skaven...

Harsh words Alpharius Pleased to see the Giant Rats will get an extra rank of attacks due to Wave of Rats rule. These chaps are now well worth fielding as a horde especially with Skweel Gnawtooth. Now all I need is some decent giant rat models (here's hoping Island of Blood serves some up).

Alpharius wrote:

xowainx wrote:

solkan wrote:So does this mean that Dogs of War are officially dead, since all of the referencing army books say to ignore them?

Fingers crossed.

For...?

Getting rid of them finally.

Flashman wrote:...Pleased to see the Giant Rats will get an extra rank of attacks due to Wave of Rats rule. These chaps are now well worth fielding as a horde especially with Skweel Gnawtooth. Now all I need is some decent giant rat models (here's hoping Island of Blood serves some up).

Wah?! I thought my 18 giant rats was plenty, now I'll need at least twice that ~C8> ~C8> ~C8>

Huh.

I can see getting rid of them as Allies, but as an entire army of their own?

That's just plain mean.

Buttlerthepug wrote:Swordmasters... Wow... talk about ridiculous unit. they continue to get their ASF and more than likely rerolls to hit. granted they will get slaughtered if attacked back.

The erratas didnt seem to change nearly as much as expected, at least not for my armies!

Ridiculous, but, as you said, still incredibly vulnerable and pricey (relatively).

They didn't really address the question of whether or not Dragon Armor protects a unit from the Fear effects of Flaming Attacks.

Book of Hoeth has effectively changed from a danger item to a safety item. get your free Irresistable forces. With the upgraded top end spells this one is going to get nasty, as you need three or four dice anyway its difficult not to cast them with Irresistable Force.

Say hello to the return of the unstoppable Purple Sun of Xereus.

Staff of Solidity is now a very nice way to spend 20pts.

Wow, they just straight-up changed stuff! For wood elves, the wildrider noble can take helm of the hunt now. Moonstone of the hidden ways can be used in the enemy movement phase and to teleport out of combat! In other words, they charge you, and at the end of their movement phase, you teleport away. Man, that just became a super-sneaky item to use!!!!

Edit: "Note that if a magic item is listed in both an army book and the
Warhammer rulebook, use the points value given in the army
book, with the rule printed in the Warhammer rulebook."

So no 5 point enchanted shield... also, clarifications to the book of secrets mean it's definitely not worth it to take it on a caster...

Jin wrote:

Buttlerthepug wrote:Swordmasters... Wow... talk about ridiculous unit. they continue to get their ASF and more than likely rerolls to hit. granted they will get slaughtered if attacked back.

The erratas didnt seem to change nearly as much as expected, at least not for my armies!

Ridiculous, but, as you said, still incredibly vulnerable and pricey (relatively).

They didn't really address the question of whether or not Dragon Armor protects a unit from the Fear effects of Flaming Attacks.

the horse might be immune to flaming attacks, but it doesnt know that so it is still afraid.

Q. Do Kairos Fateweaver’s heads count as different Wizards for the
purposes of miscasts and other rules? (p52)
A. Yes.


Huh?

Chaos Trolls lost The Will of Chaos for some reason.

@lixulana - there're arguments to be made on either side that you could "train" a horse to get used to fire. It's similar to the arguments as to why a regular cannonball can snuff out a guy in dragon armor, but a cannonball with some lighter fluid on it will be shrugged off entirely.

I don't care what the "logic" is behind it, but given that there now exists an easy to obtain 10 point magic item that gives a unit flaming attacks, it's a subtle, yet important question that could use clarification.

Interesting finds/Changes:

Empire Priests and Dwarf Runesmiths still give extra dispel dice.

Bloodskull pendant (WoC) can no longer be used in a challenge.

Slaan free dice count towards to power limit (I believe this means they still max out at 6 dice per spell. Does nothing against the 12 dice in the pool unlike rumors)

Dark Elf Hags that are Cauldron crew lose thier additional hand weapon.

Warshrines do not get thunderstomp (But Corpse Carts do?)

When you have +1 strength and double strength, the player who's turn it is decides the order (It's strength 10 on my turn, strength 9 on yours...)

Master of the Black arts power dice can only be used by the vamp that has the ability (No batteries)

Dragons/etc only count towards Lord choices, not Lord and Hero choices

Running down a large target no longer gives you a roll on the EotG table.

If a WoC Sorcerer or Sorcerer lord takes the Book of Secrets, they are only a level 1 wizard (I assume that means they lose all thier other spells, etc)

Dang, the work filter is blocking it. Could somebody put up a copy of the Ogres, Empire, and/or WoC pdfs?

Noisy_Marine wrote:Chaos Trolls lost The Will of Chaos for some reason.

Stupidity gives the unit immune to psychology now, so the reroll to panic is pointless.

Good GW didnt nerf my salamanders

Whoah the Steam Tank is T10 with a 1+ armor save! How is anything supposed to hurt that?

barlio wrote:Dang, the work filter is blocking it. Could somebody put up a copy of the Ogres, Empire, and/or WoC pdfs?

i've sent them to you in P.M.

Sweet, the Ring of Hotek's been nerfed.

Only affects if wizards are casting within 12" of the RoH, not targeting anything within 12" of it.

Or if the area of affect for the spell goes within 12" of the ring.

German FAQ reads that cast or targeted within 12" also.

Sigh. That it does. How much you wanna bet that they just copy-pasted from the old FAQ and didn't bother to check for consistency?

Jin wrote:Sweet, the Ring of Hotek's been nerfed.

Only affects if wizards are casting within 12" of the RoH, not targeting anything within 12" of it.

Page 102 – Ring of Hotek
Change to “Any Wizard (friend or foe) attempting to cast a
spell within 12" of the wearer must roll on the Miscast table on
any roll of a double, but will only cast a spell with irresistible
force on a roll of double 6.”

Q. Do area of effect spells miscast on a double if they affect any model
within 12" of the Ring of Hotek? (p102)
A. Yes.

That doesn't make any sense. So it only procs if you cast within 12" (and thus not when you are outside that range casting in) UNLESS you are using a bubble spell that affects something within the radius? It sounds like one of those answers is a mistake.

Edit: beaten!



But really T10 steamtanks, WTF?? If they were going to make changes like that the least they could do was make direwolves count for core or something.

heacy hitter wrote:

barlio wrote:Dang, the work filter is blocking it. Could somebody put up a copy of the Ogres, Empire, and/or WoC pdfs?

i've sent them to you in P.M.

You're a king among men.

Thanks