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The recent pattern of releases for 40K has been: somthing, space marine, somthing, space marine, somthing, space marine. This is quite a good thing if you like space marines, but infuriating if you don't

The current books are: Space Marines, Blood Angels, Space Wolves, Dark Angels, Black Templars, Imperial Guard, Deamon Hunters, Witch Hunters, Chaos Space Marines, Chaos Deamons, Eldar, Dark Edar, Tau Empire, Necrons, Tyranids, Orks.

My question is: If you could decide the scedule, what order would you update them and why?

I'd like to see:

Dark Eldar
Necrons
Dark Angels
WH40K 6TH EDITION -
Chaos Space Marines/Chaos Deamons (back in one book) and Imperial Guard together (becomes new AoBR)
Space Marines
New Xenos race!
Eldar
Deamon/Witch hunters together
Tau
Black Templars
Orks
Space Wolves
Tyranids
Blood Angels

In an ideal world I'd like all codex books out with 6th Ed, but I know thats never going to happen! What would Dakka like to see??

Dark Eldar
Necrons
Dark Angels
WH40K 6TH EDITION -
Chaos Space Marines/Chaos Deamons (back in one book) and Tyranids together (becomes new AoBR)
Space Marines
Imperial Guard
Eldar
Deamon/Witch hunters together
Tau
Black Templars
Orks
Blood Angels
Space Wolves

My list is pretty much the same with some minor alterations. For one thing, we do NOT need another army out right now. Seriously, until GW can get it's ass in gear about updating old codices, there is no way they can handle another race. How long had DE been shunted around? How long has it been since BT been updated? I just REALLY don't think we need another army.

I'd sneak Eldar up the list quite a bit but I'm biased because I just picked up the army.

Overall though, I totally agree with skipping space marines for about the next 6 or so books. How about we bring other codexes up from 3rd edition before we update another flavor of the exact same thing? Bonus points if 6th edition reworks vehicle rules to make them useful but not stupid powerful like they are now.

Both forces of the Inquisition are in desperate need of updating as they no longer function in 5th ed.

But no matter what happens we can guarantee that we'll get more space marine books.

SM sell well for GW and bringing out more codex's will always generate more cash.

At the end of the day we'll just have to wait and see what cheese GW produce for mass consumption.

Justicar Alaric wrote:Both forces of the Inquisition are in desperate need of updating as they no longer function in 5th ed.

what about the Ordo Xenos? the problem is that the Inquisitions have thier own themes, Games Workshop seems to have decided they're not letting player have a lot of induvidualization like they had in older Codexs.

Chaos Marines, Tyranids, Orks *sigh* I might never see you're pointlessly complicated (and numerous) wargear options in game ever again. as such I never look forward to new Codexes and have become much more fond of WFB (my Chaod Lord can eat people!?), gonna get the BRB tomorrow

Witch Hunters
Daemon Hunters
Dark Eldar
Necrons
Dark Angels
WH40K 6TH EDITION
Ordo Xenos added
Chaos Daemons
Tau
Eldar
Black Templars
Orks
Chaos Space Marines
Blood Angels
Space Marines
Space Wolves
Tyranids
Imperial Guard

I put Tau further up the list, but I'm personally biased towards them. I really don't think IG, SM or CSM need updates too badly, so they're pretty far down on my list. I DO think that both WH and DH need updates very badly, so they're right at the top.

Other than that, it's fairly similar to yours.

I'd like to see in turn

Necrons
Dark Eldar
Eldar
Dark Angels
Daemons
CSM
Tau

Justicar Alaric wrote:Both forces of the Inquisition are in desperate need of updating as they no longer function in 5th ed.

But no matter what happens we can guarantee that we'll get more space marine books.

SM sell well for GW and bringing out more codex's will always generate more cash.

At the end of the day we'll just have to wait and see what cheese GW produce for mass consumption.

Bingo. I play CSM, but I don't expect to see a new codex until late 2012, minimum. Too many other armies in front in the line.

GW could speed things up somewhat by embracing variant lists (eg, the big 9 SM chapters in one codex, the big 9 CSM legions and daemons in one codex, IG and LatD in one codex, etc.), but they seem to think we're already getting our $30 from the current codexes. :-P

i play imperial fists space marines, i used to play chaos back in 3rd edition and i'd love to see daemons and CSM back in one book, and with regards to Ordo Xenos, maybe turn them into a special unit like the Legion of the Damned in the latest vanilla marines book, ive always loved the whole kill team thing, and the new rules in battle missions are just asking for this!

erwos wrote:

Justicar Alaric wrote:Both forces of the Inquisition are in desperate need of updating as they no longer function in 5th ed.

But no matter what happens we can guarantee that we'll get more space marine books.

SM sell well for GW and bringing out more codex's will always generate more cash.

At the end of the day we'll just have to wait and see what cheese GW produce for mass consumption.

Bingo. I play CSM, but I don't expect to see a new codex until late 2012, minimum. Too many other armies in front in the line.

GW could speed things up somewhat by embracing variant lists (eg, the big 9 SM chapters in one codex, the big 9 CSM legions and daemons in one codex, IG and LatD in one codex, etc.), but they seem to think we're already getting our $30 from the current codexes. :-P

You know what would be awesome? If GW used the hype of 2012 to launch new Daemon and Daemon Hunter codices. Would be hilarious, me thinks.

Personally, I don't think the problem is whether or not Space Marine/MeQ armies are the regular new codices, I just want it to simply be the ones the need an update the most at the time, Space Marine or not. For example, although they're an MeQ army, I feel the Necrons most require an update.

Space Marines are a big part of the 40K universe and it's inevitable they should get some love, however so long is this isn't blatantly biased or unfair love, such as for example, the Black Templars now getting an update before Dark Eldar. It's obvious some people (*cough* Chaos *cough*) are going to display bias - something I TRY to refrain from - hell, the OP has already shown bias against Space Marines, however I would personally liked the order of codices to not be biased or routine (MeQ/other/MeQ/other etc) but simply about which needs an update most, which is IMHO:

- Necrons
- Dark Eldar
- Inquisition (Grey Knights then Sisters)
- Tau
- Chaos Space Marines (preferably a legions codex)
- Dark Angels

In contrast to what some have said, I don't feel we should skip Space Marine for a certain number of codices, I feel that whichever needs an update most (Necron IMHO) should get it, rather than saying for example, "Grey Knights may be gak, unplayable and lacking models, however we've just done Blood Angels, why don't we just revamp Orks instead".
However, in compliance with what Haddi said I don't feel we should have any more races until the current codices are up to date, let alone 6th Edition which is barely needed IMHO.

I happen to agree, we shouldn't let Marine or MEq codexes languish simply because we don't want to look like we're favoring Marines or MEqs. There are a lot of MEq armies that badly need a new codex - Necrons, Dark Angels, and Daemon Hunters chief among them.

This is reflected somewhat in my list, though looking at it once again, I feel like I may even personally be guilty of the aforementioned bias.

But the point remains that it's neither an efficient nor fair way to do things.

SaintHazard wrote:I happen to agree, we shouldn't let Marine or MEq codexes languish simply because we don't want to look like we're favoring Marines or MEqs. There are a lot of MEq armies that badly need a new codex - Necrons, Dark Angels, and Daemon Hunters chief among them.

This is reflected somewhat in my list, though looking at it once again, I feel like I may even personally be guilty of the aforementioned bias.

But the point remains that it's neither an efficient nor fair way to do things.

*hugs*

Dark Eldar (end of 10)
2011
Grey Knights (start of 11)
Necrons (mid 11)
Sisters (end of 11)
2012 (Don't bring out a new version of 40K!! Uk is the biggest market, and the olympics will be on, finiancial suiicide imho!)
Tau
Dark Angels
Eldar
2013
Chaos Marines
6thEd
Space Marines (new edition = new marines)
Orks

This way GW get a guarenteed Cash cow a year (something like marines every year) and also work through all the out of date codecies.

Necrons
6th Edition
Space Marines
Chaos Marines/Demons/Lost and the Damned
Tau
Inquisition
Orks
Imperial Guard
Eldar
...rinse, repeat.


You'll notice a few missing books. If I set the schedule, all the variant marine chapters would have their rules in the marine book. And yes, Tyranids and Dark Eldar do not appear anywhere on my dream list. Funny, that.

I personally wouldn't want to see 6th ed nearly that soon, there's at least three or four more years in the big red book.

2010
Fall: Dark Eldar

2011
Winter: Grey Knights (replaces Daemonhunters)
Spring: Necrons
Summer: Sisters of Battle
Fall: Tau

2012
Winter: Dogs of War (a mercenaries/allies book with forces for all armies)
Spring: Dark Angels
Summer: Eldar
Fall: Chaos (includes Marines and Daemons, with options of playing separate as well as united forces)

2013
Winter: Black Templars
Spring: Orks

2014: Sixth Edition, all codexes updated again before 7th Edition as a continuing cycle

This should be the rotation:
Space Marines (they are the poster child & biggest money maker they deserve 1st)
Eldar
Necrons
Dark Eldar
Tau
CSM
CD
WH
Orks
Tyranids
DH

Then when the next edition comes out rotate down 3 steps:
Orks
Nids
DH
SM
Eldar. . .

This ensures everyone is rotated around semi-equally

In all honesty, Nilla Rines are gonna be given the first codex after each new edition.

Yeah I do think that will always be the case nilla marines will always be the first in a new edition but some of you are putting 6thed really soon which seems odd.

There's quite a few things that I'd love to see fixed in 6th edition. Vehicles come to mind. Gut and rework the Vehicle rules from the ground up. Good heavens does that stuff need fixed.

I'd say 5th ed is the most balanced yet, my favourite part is the need for troops. I accept there are inevitable flaws, but not enough to warrant 6th edition so soon. Maybe 5.5 edition, where they basically, clean it up a bit and smooth off the edges, but no need for a 6th yet IMHO.

But yeah, I can understand Marines always being the first codex to be updated per edition, it comes as part of being by far the most popular and representative army there is I guess. I expect it'd be the same if any of the other codices were the most popular instead.

I personally think every 3-4 months, two codexes should come out at one time. This way, in a little over two years, every codex gets updated to include new figures and rule tweaks.

This way, older armies won't become obsolete such as the Dark Eldar, which pretty much took that army out of the game comepletely, just to bring it back years later.

This also allows a new freshness, where its not just about the one new army for months on end. I'd rather see two new armies being the talk of the town for a couple of months, and then start getting info on the next two. The armies won't need major overhalls by the time they are released, and a player will not have to do major reconfigurations to their army, or anything at all, for a couple of years while still getting to enjoy in the Freshness as the other armies around them get new life

Also, each new dual release can have a limited run battle set in which both armies are included in a box, or atleast do a battleforce box for each army as the new codexes update. I play blood angels and I had to by the regular space marine battle box and would have liked one specific to my army.

This may all be a waste of time and energy to other people, but I played MTG for years before this, and the layout is sort of like every 6 months, One color of Magic getting new cards! If you played Green, would you want to wait three-years as new Blue, Black, Red, White, Colorless cards came out?

With all honesty, I don't think we are going to get DE, WH and DH in one big 3rd ed conga line.

Imho, it will go;

DE (4th quarter this year. fantasy 8th has just come out and the rest of the year will be FANTASY with a 40k release sneaking in)

A obviously ageing forth/third ed codex that is guaranteed to sell well with minimal changes to the model line. (Eldar/Tau/DA/BT/CSM/Deamons) to make up for the major costs in redoing DE completely. (plastic deamon releases soon either strongly point to or away from deamons getting this spot)

A third ed codex with major work required as well as second wave of the previous codex release (DH, WH, Necrons)

wash, rinse and repeat untill 6th ed. interspersed with occasional fantasy stuff.

TL;DR
my picks=

DE
Eldar/Tau/DA/BT/CSM/Deamons
WH/DH/'Crons
Eldar/Tau/DA/BT/CSM/Deamons
WH/DH/'Crons

6th ed

SM
Orks
IG
left over third ed stuff
left over 4th ed stuff

and late 6th ed
Tyranids/ probebly not SW
BA/ still probebly not SW

I hope that came out coherent.

Dark Eldar need a new codex worse than anyone else. Then Necrons, and if possible they should make the army less incredibly boring and bland.
After that, I dont really know. with 6th ed. Marines will always get the first update. Id like Tau to get one after that, not just coz I play them. For a race that completely forgoes CC, we need to be even more shooty, most other races can still match us for shooting ability.


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Dark Eldar need a new codex worse than anyone else. Then Necrons, and if possible they should make the army less incredibly boring and bland.
After that, I dont really know. with 6th ed. Marines will always get the first update. Id like Tau to get one soon (a few other races will prob get one first) after that, not just coz I play them. For a race that completely forgoes CC, we need to be even more shooty, most other races can still match us for shooting ability.

No way in hell 6th edition is coming out that soon. We'll be waiting until 2012 at least. Editions for both Fantasy and 40K have had anywhere between 4 and 6 years between them (4 years only once with 40K), and 5th edition just came out in 2008.

I have a feeling GW wants to update most, if not all of their codexes before the new edition hits the streets.

My personal list:

1. Inquisition
2. Inquisition
3. Whatever, who cares?
4. Inquisition

I have been told by GW Thurrock staff that the next codex to come out is Grey Knights

I realy want Eldar and Necrons

Yeah, Grey Knights is looking the most likely. Which is good, as - unlike Eldar - they need it.

I still feel that Necrons need a 'dex more than Dark Eldar however, at least Dark Eldar are still competitive and potentially fun to play with/against.

All I can say is I want a Grey Knights / Inquisition codex to come first. Then probably necrons. I hate dark eldar, their lame imo.

Dark Eldar
Necrons
Chaos Space Marines (mainly, renewing models => Chaos Dreadnoguht!)
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