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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 04:31:07
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 04:33:42
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Tilter at Windmills
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I have no idea what you're trying to say, except that there seems to be some implication that Space Wolf Troops are not amazing. Blood Claws are not amazing; but Grey Hunters are arguably the best Troops choice in the game, of course.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 04:46:03
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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Just bored and had drempt off. I don't agree with you if you think about the math against terminators... Grey knight troops are way better!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 04:49:18
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Tilter at Windmills
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Well, if Terminators are the majority of opposing models you face, then Strike squads would seem to be more useful for you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 05:03:10
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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Be sure to check out my space wolves (My dads)
-Thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 05:26:58
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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For 200 points, you get 5 naked terminators...for 200 points you get a fully kitted out squad of Grey Hunters with Plasma Guns...and the end result is...a 10 man unit that eats those 5 terminators breakfast and then spoon feeds their feces to the terminators.
Point for point, Grey Hunters are far superior to Terminators in most regards. While the 5 man Terminators seem more survivable, you need to look at what they will be facing and the fact that you can spread wounds over 10 bodies as compared to 5. Let's not forget that on the Charge, Grey Hunters will have as many attacks PER MODEL as the Terminators would PER MODEL. That's 30 attacks from the hunters coming at you as compared to 15. And if the Grey Hunters are charged, more than likely they will still have 3 attacks while your terminators will only have 2.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 05:36:43
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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Wrong... you would not have enough points for all ten, maybey four at most, i have the codex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 05:41:18
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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Maybe you're not reading the right section and/or not reading the unit name right. I am talking about GREY HUNTERS not WOLF GUARD. Wolf Guard Terminators are good for nothing in all honesty. The only one that is worth his weight is Arjac...but that is a topic for another discussion. Under Troops for Space Wolves, you will clearly see that GREY HUNTERS are significantly less than 40 points a pop, even more, a full squad of 10 is under 200 points...you still have quite a few points for Wargear...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 06:06:16
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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I still have no idea what the OP is actually talking about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 06:08:26
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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I think he's trying to compare Space Wolf Terminators to Grey Knight terminators...its like trying to compare a Marine to a kid in JROTC...no comparison.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 06:32:37
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Ah. Yes, I suppose. Although, I have ran smack into a loganstar once or twice, and seen it hit a paladin unit...and every time it has touched something in CC, its target has exploded.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/07/30 08:40:39
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
The other side of the internet
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The only good terminator is a terminator with a storm shield. I really wouldn't compare to terminators, it's far better to compare to tac marines (as sad as that may be) or guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/01 00:02:53
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 06:06:20
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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SOFDC wrote:I still have no idea what the OP is actually talking about.
Neither do i.... neither do i
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 06:21:24
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Stalwart Tribune
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You know I’ve been watching this thread for a while now. And I really thought I would understand whats going on by now. So since I don’t know how to put in my 2 cents ill go with;
-point for point blood angle tac squads are better then vanilla tac squads-
OK…GO….
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 06:40:31
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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komosunder wrote:-point for point blood angle tac squads are better then vanilla tac squads-
OK…GO….
Tyranids can take better troops. They kill Terminators better. And they cost less too, for more attacks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 06:41:59
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Perfect Shot Ultramarine Predator Pilot
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Depends. Did the BA get the fearless and furious charge? Do you like it more than combat tactics for your purposes?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 09:11:04
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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komosunder wrote:
-point for point blood angle tac squads are better then vanilla tac squads-
Exactly what angle is blood?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 09:27:09
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Been Around the Block
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Blood Angel Tacticals? Nah.
They don't have the option to break away from close combat, and are fairly bad in close combat with a single attack, even with furious charge. Could give them a Sanguard, but then you may as well use an assualt squad.
Tacticals have always been a relatively weak unit in the marine assinal. Codex marines generally don't take more then the baseline of them anyways, due to their strange weapon arrangements and the ineffectiveness of the bolter compared to other space marine armour.
As for main thread, got no idea what you are talking about. Please state troop names you are comparing. Grey Hunters are actually one of the best valued troops choices in a Space Marine army, Wolf guard generally do make good troops with Logen if properly minitored (in otherwords, don't go overboard on buying stuff for them. Point for point, thunder hammer storm sheild termies cost 23 points more then the space marine equilent.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 09:28:07
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Sneaky Lictor
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My dads space wolves troops are bigger/better than his dads space wolves troop
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 12:33:36
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot
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I lvoe played against Space Wolf termie armies, it almost can win most of the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 18:49:49
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Stalwart Tribune
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Lordhat wrote:komosunder wrote:
-point for point blood angle tac squads are better then vanilla tac squads-
Exactly what angle is blood?
Hummm you have a very good point. So I guess your vote is for vanilla? Automatically Appended Next Post: BTW i think its a right
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 19:03:18
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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i think chuck norris is right, its a right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 23:08:29
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Lord of the Fleet
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I broke my exalting cherry with this thread.
I still have no clue what is happening here.
Though, I too, think its a right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/02 23:15:55
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
In your squads, doing the chainsword tango
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Jihallah wrote:!!! Warning! Warning! Small Children are posting on the internet! You are all arguing with a Small Child! Over the Internet! Consider whether or not you would actually argue with a small child IRL and if it is worth your time before continuing to post! Warning! Warning! !!! komosunder wrote:You know I’ve been watching this thread for a while now. And I really thought I would understand whats going on by now. So since I don’t know how to put in my 2 cents ill go with; -point for point blood angle tac squads are better then vanilla tac squads- OK…GO…. Whaaa...? Stop ignoring me! nice little joke thar though Wysten wrote:Blood Angel Tacticals? Nah. They don't have the option to break away from close combat, and are fairly bad in close combat with a single attack, even with furious charge. Could give them a Sanguard, but then you may as well use an assualt squad. Tacticals have always been a relatively weak unit in the marine assinal. Codex marines generally don't take more then the baseline of them anyways, due to their strange weapon arrangements and the ineffectiveness of the bolter compared to other space marine armour. As for main thread, got no idea what you are talking about. Please state troop names you are comparing. Grey Hunters are actually one of the best valued troops choices in a Space Marine army, Wolf guard generally do make good troops with Logen if properly minitored (in otherwords, don't go overboard on buying stuff for them. Point for point, thunder hammer storm sheild termies cost 23 points more then the space marine equilent.)  1) Your ability to understand when someone is taking the piss is lacking 2) What In The Name Of All That Is Holy is a  ing assinal?!?!?! I want one! Automatically Appended Next Post: deffskulla wrote:I lvoe played against Space Wolf termie armies, it almost can win most of the time.
Also did anyone else enjoy this post as much as I did?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/03 00:58:32
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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DarkHound wrote:komosunder wrote:-point for point blood angle tac squads are better then vanilla tac squads- OK…GO….
Tyranids can take better troops. They kill Terminators better. And they cost less too, for more attacks! I don't think anything can beat a unit of 20 stealers,in combat.on the charge thats 60,ws6 s5 i6 rending attacks.anything that survives doesnt have the attacks to even it out and gets run down in a sweeping advance.in the shooting ther crap
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/03 02:34:39
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Unholy_Martyr wrote:I think he's trying to compare Space Wolf Terminators to Grey Knight terminators...its like trying to compare a Marine to a kid in JROTC...no comparison.
To be fair though, Space Wolf terminators have counter-attack and can be kitted however you want... not exactly worth the huge points mark-up, but still...
Anyway, the poster is a
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/03 03:28:02
Subject: Re:Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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i still don't know what blasphemy the OP speaks of.Grey hunters kick butt and i amsomeone who hates space wolves
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/03 03:38:01
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Mighty Gouge-Horn
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I dont know where it is hidden but there IS a meme here somewhere.....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/08/03 06:11:55
Subject: Space Wolf Troops Fail?
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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Ralin Givens wrote:I dont know where it is hidden but there IS a meme here somewhere.....
I think your right! Where is purplefood when you need him
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