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I was wondering how many of you use proxies, as in miniatures from another company, either for nearly a full army, or for just a few units and such in your games of Warhammer or 40k


EDIT: making it easier to understand.

You have to define exactly what you mean by "proxies".

Sorry, I wrote it on an iPod, let me edit it.

When testing an idea for your army in question I would proxy a model to see if that idea would work out for that army. GW is an expensive hobby just to try an idea out

Quite a few to be honest, not because I'm cheap but because i have a lot of models which i have cunningly built so they can stand in as a lot of different units, i have a set of 18 models which can stand in as HQs (lords and sorcerers), aspiring champions and even a completly different army because they aren't pointy and contain no identifying chapter marks, also most of my black legion are khorne berzerkers sans heads and marks oh and my pride and joy gul'avar is a daemon prince and soon to be joined by a cockatrice as the 2nd.

Of course i do have a tight definition of proxy of "if you're using something as ____ and it didn't come in a box saying ____ it is a proxy"

If another company has a model that I like better I use it. I don't proxy whole armies though.

My IG army is mostly WGF Greatcoats with Cadian las-guns. They look hawt

When I'm playing with close friends, we'll occasionally throw in some proxies...usually only to test new things out before making a purchase. I never try to pull this in a pick-up game.

Then there are several units in my codex that have no official GW model. I've used mostly GW bits for these conversions and try to make them to a high quality. That said, I don't know if these count as "proxies" as they're not exactly standing in for another model.

The way you're asking about, no, I do not, have never, and probably will never proxy.

Well I've got an AdMech army that uses mostly Micro-Art Studios miniatures. Does that count?

Otherwise no, I don't proxy. I pretty much stick to WYSIWYG at all times.

I don't think using models from other manufacturers counts as 'proxying'. GW make rules, whether you use their models or not is up to you. It's making a cool looking army is the important thing. Most historical rules sets are played with armies cobbled together from various manufacturers and people think nothing of it, why should a fantasy game be different?

'Proxying' to me means using a bottle for a drop pod. And I don't do that.

Sometimes my commissar's powerfist is a powerweapon, or my armoured sentinels are scouts. No big deal.

Never!

If I want a new unit, I go buy it and paint it up.

never field proxies, never field grey minis

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Damn genestealer cult

Once in a while I do proxy something in friendly matches to test how something works or because I forgot to bring something essential.

I do feel a little bad when I do it, though.

Never; I mostly gamed at my local GW where proxying is disallowed unless it closely resembles the model it's replacing (and I mean so closely that you can't use an IoB Griffon as a Great Eagle), and i've started to reach a point where I don't really need to add anything more to my armies, so there's little left to proxy.

I try not to use Proxies. but then it depends on what you regard as a Proxy.

Flash Gitz - I've just painted some AOBR Nobz as Flash Gitz but they can easily be used as regular Nobz if I need to.

Ork Warboss - I use Kaptin Badrukk as my Warboss with big choppa.

Ork Warbikers - I use some of my regular Ork Warbikers to count as Nob Warbikers.

The only 'big' Proxy I probably plan on using is having my Carnifex proxy for a Tervigon.

So technically yes I use Proxies, but far from ridiculous ones.

Warshrines. Mine are chariots with banners until further notice and a hell of a lot of bits have been aquired...

What annoys me most isn't proxies which people shall obviously tell you what they are but the people who suddenly announce the vypers you ignored do not have shuriken cannons which is why you ignored them but in fact brightlances. Some reason a few people don't think it is important

Ugavine wrote:I try not to use Proxies. but then it depends on what you regard as a Proxy.

Flash Gitz - I've just painted some AOBR Nobz as Flash Gitz but they can easily be used as regular Nobz if I need to.

Ork Warboss - I use Kaptin Badrukk as my Warboss with big choppa.

Ork Warbikers - I use some of my regular Ork Warbikers to count as Nob Warbikers.

The only 'big' Proxy I probably plan on using is having my Carnifex proxy for a Tervigon.

So technically yes I use Proxies, but far from ridiculous ones.

All the ork ones are ridiculous proxies. They are not even close to WYSIWYG and don't fit 'counts as' at all.

To the OP, you really need to further refine what you mean by proxies. Also, I think you accidentally made the first choice in your poll the title.

Do you mean...
using other brands of minis that look like what they are representing and are relatively WYSIWYG
..or ...
using other brands of minis that don't look like what they represent?

Two very different scenarios.

Most people would say that the first definition is not proxying, rather it's just using different miniatures, whereas the second definition is closer to actual "proxying".

For my self, I don't "proxy". Whether the brand is GW or not, all my troops look like what they are and what they are armed with. That said, brand isn't imprtant to me. Right now I'm gathering a Platoon worth of Shockforce figs (Cadian copies) with to add to my IG army. However, they will all be WYSIWYG so proxying won't really be an issue.

My Marine "Scouts": Systemically Quarantined, Unsupported, Abhuman, Truncated Soldiers are not even 'marine' models.
They are modeled to have different weapon loadouts according to the SM Codex.

Proxies? maybe... Cool looking?... I think so.

I usually only have two situations where I proxy:

1) playtesting a model to see if it is something that would work in my army.

2) Unfinished models that don't have crew/arms/weapons added yet. Sometimes it is just easier to paint pieces while they are still separate. So I will just inform my opponent "this guy with no arms has a storm shield, and the land speeder with no weapon or crew has a multi-melta". I play in a relaxed FLGS so there is never any problems, but I make it a personal rule to only routinely proxy models that I actually do own but need to be finished.

I voted "quite a few" because 'technically' most of my infantry for my guard army is the Wargames Factory greatcoats (just bought me a few boxes of their heavy weapons teams). I did this because I *wanted* a DKoK army, but this is as close as I could legitimately afford, and field a decent army at the same time.


Other than that, similar to d-usa, I only use something if i have "run out" of that particular model, but am in the process of making more (like an armless assault marine, or regular bolter marine). I try to never proxie special weapons though, as that does get highly confusing to *SEE* a flamer but *GET* a melta.



I should note that in my Guard army, all the vehicles at least, and the commissars (so far) are all GW minis.

I’ve got a 99% non GW marine army in the works. It’s so far going to use a combination of stuff from Anvil Industry, Micro Arts Studio and Maxmini. I’m pretty stoked as it is going to the first time I build an entire army out of converted miniatures.

I’m building it in a fairly generic fashion (squads of 10 marines with 2 special weapons and a captain) so it is compatible with a variety of SciFi games. In regards to GW specifically, it will be able to clearly proxy any assault based marine force (CSM, SW, BA, GK, BT).

I only ever proxy to test models/units I don't own.

I sort of do.

I have the Chainsaw Warrior and Chainsaw Wizard models by GW from the 80's which are used for my commander, plasma gunners and a priest in my IG army.

I use then as they are some of my favourite minis of all time and scale to IG well.

Although they are GW minis I could see someone not knowing that they were GW and trying to call me on it.

They would get hurt.

I pretty much only proxy if I am trying out a new unit, otherwise I tend to try and have the actual model. But I have seen some nice proxies which tempt me.

I occasionally use an Eldar Vyper as a Dark Eldar Venom if I dont have enough venoms built for the list I want to run. Thats about all though.

Many posters need to re-read how the OP defined "proxies" for his poll.