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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 11:13:09
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Stalwart Space Marine
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So I just got my new White Dwarf, which is centered on the new 40k releases. I'm not usre if I like the look of the new SM Stormtalon. GW link here.
I fell like it looks more Tau like. I think it's a bit too curved.
Dont get me wrong, I'll buy one.But I feel they should have made it boxier, with some more square edges...
Your thoughts??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 12:20:21
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Gnawing Giant Rat
the Netherlands
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It looks like a flying toaster. While i prefer pronounced angles, its to much like a flying square. And the Chin mounted twin linked assult cannons, just aweful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 13:07:59
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Cold-Blooded Saurus Warrior
The Great White North
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Tau like?
Go look at ALL the Tau flyers and get back to me.
That model may in fact be one of the ugliest GW has made lately.
Tau fighters are smooth and aerodynamic... thus the relation to water based animals... They glide through the air like fish glide in water.
That stormtalon would have some serious issues with basic flight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 13:13:05
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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Have not recieved US WD yet. Could someone please describe "Hover Strike" rule and "Escort Craft" rules.
THANKS!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 13:39:52
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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What is the stat line? Unless it's amazing and/or extremely cost effective, I don't see this replacing my tml/hb speeders...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 13:41:34
Subject: Re:Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Really needs a bit of lengthening to make it look less box (and attain that assault ehlicopter look it was going for). Assault cannons mess with the thing's outline terrible, so either remove them altogether or find something smaller. Engine size is a bit of an irk, but I can roll with it seeing as the thing is a brick. Cockpit could do with being enclosed too perhaps, or at least have more armour
On the rules side the armour values are a bit weak. I don't know how it compares to other flyers, but it does look like a flying bunker, so shouldn't it be higher or have some form of "extra armour". As for the armament, what's up with giving it just the heavy bolters or missile pods, the assault cannon seems a little overkill to me. An autocannon, or something smaller would fit the thing's profile a bit more perhaps.
Considering buying one for my Chaos, but Chapterhouse really needs to make a conversion kit for it. =/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 13:41:50
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Fully-charged Electropriest
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Very ugly. The TLAC underneath just look over-sized and plain stupid.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 14:03:01
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Tail Gunner
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I think it is a great looking kit. The auto cannons are a bit big to be under slung like that I will admit, but overall it is way better than either stormraven (chapterhouse or unmodified). I might buy one and convert it without the weapons just because I like the look of the kit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 14:03:12
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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Me likey, needs a bit of conversion, namely the assault cannons, but I think I may get two for my Raven Guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 14:27:56
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Games Workshop has really outdone themselves. They gave it their all to make a model uglier than the Storm Raven, and succeeded.
I'm really not sure what can be done to "fix" this model either. I mean, extension kits like Chapterhouse alleviate some (but not all by any means) of the Storm Ravens ugly issues. I don't see any way to fix this without building an entirely new model mostly from scratch using the bits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 14:33:29
Subject: Re:Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The underslung assault cannon is terrible, the rest is merely meh.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 14:51:15
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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I wasn't sure about the model at first, but after a day or two I like it aside from the assault cannons. I plan on swapping them out for smaller Ravenwing ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 14:58:57
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Secret Inquisitorial Eldar Xenexecutor
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For some reason I really like the model (and rules), cant place why exactly. It seems like a sum of alot of ugly parts make a model that for some reason works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 15:08:58
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Crazed Gorger
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I think it looks pretty cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 15:12:11
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Ancient Ultramarine Venerable Dreadnought
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I really want to dislike it, but for some reason I can't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 15:13:39
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I can see this being an IG unit but for SM? The SM in the cockpit looks so silly and cramped. Why would a pilot nned to wear PA to fly a plane?
I don't like it since it doesn't fit the SM fluff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 15:16:48
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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I prefer the Ork flyers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 15:48:34
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Another resolutely crappy Space Marine flyer. On the up side, the Ork fighter-bombers are rather nice kits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 16:15:47
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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It looks ok, I might pick one up after I finish building my squadron of ork flyers. It does look very nice in Salamander's green.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 16:21:49
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Nurgle's Head Cheese wrote:Have not recieved US WD yet. Could someone please describe "Hover Strike" rule and "Escort Craft" rules. THANKS!!
I might have gotten something off but in a nutshell: Hover Strike - looses Fast to gain +1BS against some targets (excluding skimmers I think and possibly something else). Escort Craft - assign it to some unit and it automatically arrives with it from reserves (same border; max. 6" away). No for Deep Strike. Is it OK to post this? KingDeath wrote:The underslung assault cannon is terrible, the rest is merely meh.
Agreed. It lands on it? It's a weapon platform / landing gear?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 16:29:25
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Sounds like it could do well will Drop pod mounted forces.
May pick one up to escort my drop pod dreads.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 16:35:29
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Bounding Assault Marine
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I like it tbh.... although the assault cannons are way too freaking big. If they couldve made it sleeker I wouldve bought 3..... For now just 1.... I can't sacrifice my assault squads for it. (and yes I field them proudly!  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 16:36:55
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
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hotsauceman1 wrote:Sounds like it could do well will Drop pod mounted forces.
May pick one up to escort my drop pod dreads.
It can't escort deep strikers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 16:38:19
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Ok read that wrong.
Can it deepstrike by itself?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 16:46:26
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Screaming Shining Spear
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hotsauceman1 wrote:Ok read that wrong.
Can it deepstrike by itself?
Nope. Ceramite plating, Supersonic, Aerial Assault, two already mentioned rules, but no DS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 16:57:14
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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I think it looks awesome! If I had CSM I'd buy 3. But I play Blood Angels so................. :(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 17:06:22
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It also gains Pinning when it stops moving, and becmoes a Skimmer - cant move (but can pivot) that turn
Meaning the change to Skimmer is redundant in 5th, but presumably does something in 6th
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 17:06:57
Subject: Re:Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver
Canada
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Rules-wise it looks cool, mabye. Model wise, It's like some people were talking about the stormraven and said "well, at least they didn't...". Then GW did.
And the landing gear on the oversize turret? The whole gun section on the turret is just too bulky. Byt yeah, with some extra stuff here, and some less stuff there, and a bit of shifting around it could look pretty cool. That should not be needed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 17:10:24
Subject: Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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it looks like it has real 'potential', i.e ripping it up an making something epic out of it, but on it's own it looks quite silly and not very sm, more machanicus suited i think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/26 17:25:42
Subject: Re:Thoughts on new SM Stormtalon?
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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The Scythes are better...
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