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So how about it? These are just examples -- the real question is more about whether you find in-universe contradictions or inappropriate out-of-universe stuff smuggled in to be more unsettling.

For myself, the Chaos Tau thing is far more distressing than the MLP stuff I've seen. I would say "at least I know the MLP thing is a joke" but sometimes I wonder ... Not too long ago, someone posted on Dakka asking about a 40k/MLP crossover he heard GW was doing ... ugh.

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MLP is worse. Chaos tau are pretty bad, but at least it fits within the same game as 40k.

MLP is an awful crossover. It's about as bad as somebody modelling George W. Bush as their chapter master and saying that in a couple of years he will fall into the warp and in the far future go on to be a space marine.


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Pony marines.
I read a post sometime ago about a guy who lost a match to a "little girl" who had CSM Painted in a similar manner and a sorcerer with a rainbow sword... *shrugs*
The concept of Pony-marines is wrong and horrifying, killing machines with armor styled like that is a proof of insanity, madness or even taint of chaos.
IMO Ponies represent something utterly evil, all efforts must be made to exterminate the treat and they must be "shot on sight" (like justin beiber )
But seriously now, i just think there is something wrong in the idea of "pony-marines".



"Thou shall smite the pony and its follower, wherever their foul taint shall be found"
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Never was a fan of the pony meme, or the fools that latch onto it. It's just trans-material trolling.

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Daemonhammer wrote:Pony marines.
I read a post sometime ago about a guy who lost a match to a "little girl" who had CSM Painted in a similar manner and a sorcerer with a rainbow sword... *shrugs*
The concept of Pony-marines is wrong and horrifying, killing machines with armor styled like that is a proof of insanity, madness or even taint of chaos.
IMO Ponies represent something utterly evil, all efforts must be made to exterminate the treat and they must be "shot on sight" (like justin beiber )
But seriously now, i just think there is something wrong in the idea of "pony-marines".



"Thou shall smite the pony and its follower, wherever their foul taint shall be found"
-Litanies of the Alfa Legion Space Marine Chapter.


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And pretty marines dont? Oh and angry marines too.

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Why is Chaos Tau distressing? Nothing says they cannot be corrupted by the Warp, they just aren't intentionally sought out as being particularly...tasty, by Warp entities if there's something better given that their Warp presence is extremely weak. Chaos corrupts and despoils all. I see nothing inappropriate about Chaos Tau in theory.

Pony marines I'd sort go "well...that's silly" and move on. The "cutely ironic" phase of that has long since passed, and thus would any humor value, but I really wouldn't flip over it, it's just another brightly colored silly looking marine army at that point.

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Considering in the UK My Little Pony is regarded as a show aimed at 4 year old girls, it utterly baffles me.

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As for Chaos Tau, hey why not? The whole "we love everyone, greater good" can have some traitors. Nothing stopping Tau from having their own Horus Heresy.

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You mean like Hello Kitty Marines? Or Nazi IG ( I seen a really well done army like that, and the player who was kicked out of a store for it) I just sort of shrug and move on.
   
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It'd probably be better if you had a poll with some more options for it, so it doesn't look like you are singleing out just a few types of modeling.. Otherwise you just ought to rename the thread "which is worse, mlp marines or chaos tau?"

While i'm not one to get hissy over how someone does their models, I'm not really a fan of the tyranid models with reproductive organs, or chaos daemons with penises. While these things can and have been done tastfully, if your Slaaneshi soulgrinders have giant horse cocks the size of their legs tied up in fishnet, and so do your fiends, I'll probably find someone else to play..

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I'd actually like to see a Chaos Tau army. It'd at the very least be interesting and plausible.

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I would take My Little Pony Marines, Chaos Tau, Nazi IG, Female Marines, and George Bush as chapter master (to use examples listed above) any day of the week over the hordes of unpainted, sometimes unassembled Grey Knights and Blood Angels that seem to comprise at least half of any club's player's armies. At least they indicate some form of effort or dedication on behalf of the owner.


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StoneRaizer wrote:
As for Chaos Tau, hey why not? The whole "we love everyone, greater good" can have some traitors. Nothing stopping Tau from having their own Horus Heresy.


Actually I could see that making a pretty cool campaign with the new allies system.

Back on topic. I am one of those cynical, hate filled bastards who foams at the mouth with rage at the sight of MLP. Give me power armor and I would be a real life angry marine. I honestly cannot stand the idea of pony marines to the point that it physically makes me sick. Its not just a simple matter of preference, its irrational hatred, a pathological obsession with despising the very concept of MLP.

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I find "The big bang theory tv show" cringe worthy. I know some really intelligent people whose opinion I respect love it a lot, and that’s ok… even intelligent people can be wrong at times.

As for 40K, I don’t really care. My interest lies solely with what happens on the table (either the gaming table or the table where I paint). I couldn’t care less if someone makes a “my little pony” crossover marine army or a chaos tau army.

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Yes. Isn't the entire Farsight story a potential hook as well. He's got a mysterious, super-powerful sword of unknown origins (yeah... riiiight) and starts going all rebellious on his race and the established hierarchies.

I am not saying it has to be Chaos there, probably not, but it's ambiguous enough that a hobbyist who would like to have it that way, could very well interpret this a as a story hook for Tau-Corruption.

   
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Ma55ter_fett wrote:I find "The big bang theory tv show" cringe worthy. I know some really intelligent people whose opinion I respect love it a lot, and that’s ok… even intelligent people can be wrong at times.

The Big Bang Theory is nerd blackface. It's just a generic gakky sitcom with some random nerd references shoehorned in there. Loathsome program.

I think Pony Marines makes me cringe harder. I have no qualms with the show or anyone who watches it, but I don't understand why you'd put cute cartoon horses and Marines together in the way some folks here have. Chaos Tau is pretty awful though; reading the fluff people write for it is always hilarious though, whether they know it or not.

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Ma55ter_fett wrote:I find "The big bang theory tv show" cringe worthy. I know some really intelligent people whose opinion I respect love it a lot, and that’s ok… even intelligent people can be wrong at times.

Chaos Tau is pretty awful though; reading the fluff people write for it is always hilarious though, whether they know it or not.


Perhaps I could see an example? I haven't read much Chaos Tau fluff.
   
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Meh.

If someone wants to make a Ponyhammer army, good for them. Not my problem.

I can't think of a single conversion army that would make me cringe.

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LoneLictor wrote:
Perhaps I could see an example? I haven't read much Chaos Tau fluff.

From a cursory googling:
i have taken up tau and with alot of chaos stuff im converting them into chaos tau and i have to admit my chaos hammerhead looks awesome this is there fluff

these tau of the dishounerd sept are darkened by chaos like no tau have before them due to massive over exposure to the warp. they lost there honour by attacking a space marine world just to spite them to prove they were more powerful only did they not win they were banished into the warp by the ultramarines who had just been passing by. years spent in the warp changed them beyond belief there strength grew there weapons were stronger but at a cost little known to the tau the chaos gods had been gifting them making them stronger faster and giving them huge longevity whispering into there minds twisting them these "gifts" were not out of kindness i doubt chaos gods understand a thing but they tools to let the tau do what the chaos gods fed of pure and utter destruction and chaos to spite the world and after they came out of the eye of terror after 1000s of years they were unrecognisable to there kin
they existed only for "the greater good of the chaos gods!

You know, typical things that are impossible because Tau have no Warp presence. I rarely see Chaos Tau fluff or discussion threads where the OP has writing talents that surpass a child's either, which doesn't help. Tau can be manipulated by Chaos just fine, same as anybody, but the idea of Chaos Tau is impossible and silly, yet not quite as silly as cartoon horse Marines.

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I wouldn't even play someone with a MLP army. Nothing personal. Its just that my local gaming store is in the middle of a shopping.centre so there is hot girls and/or tough blokes going in and out all the time, doing the nornap "WTF is this" look. We already feel uneasy when thr gangsta looking ones stroll in with swagger, looking at our models. Quite frankly, I don't need my sexuality nor my sexual.maturity questioned even.more, which it will should I be caught playing with or against a MLP army. Not for me thanks.

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I like to think of myself as a mature person with a slightly immature sense of humour and the idea of someone cringing at models makes me cringe myself. Very few things faze me and I can happily say that I won’t be losing sleep over someones BDSM Nazi furry chaos pony themed tau with grey knight allies army. Hell, it's their toys; let them do what they want and if the above makes them happy then so be it. But in all seriousness though, if the idea of someone doing something different in their hobby offends you then maybe you need to go outside, have a walk through your local park, relax a little as you take in your surroundings. Take a few deep breaths and enjoy the sunlight as it shines down onto your face, gently warming your body in its glow……. and remember that this is just a game.

Ok, yeah I know, seeing ANOTHER pony army or ANOTHER chaos tau army thread might get tiring and no one likes having to read and respond to the same thread by a different person over and over again but just do what I do. Scroll past it and enjoy the rest of the content that this forum or any other has to bring. If you really have to comment on it then just remember that it’s their toys and they can do what they want. If you find it really offensive then point it out politely as maybe someone over looked the fact that a Nazi themed IG army might not go down so well and suggest that the fewer iconography the better.

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DPBellathrom wrote:I like to think of myself as a mature person with a slightly immature sense of humour and the idea of someone cringing at models makes me cringe myself. Very few things faze me and I can happily say that I won’t be losing sleep over someones BDSM Nazi furry chaos pony themed tau with grey knight allies army. Hell, it's their toys; let them do what they want and if the above makes them happy then so be it. But in all seriousness though, if the idea of someone doing something different in their hobby offends you then maybe you need to go outside, have a walk through your local park, relax a little as you take in your surroundings. Take a few deep breaths and enjoy the sunlight as it shines down onto your face, gently warming your body in its glow……. and remember that this is just a game.

Ok, yeah I know, seeing ANOTHER pony army or ANOTHER chaos tau army thread might get tiring and no one likes having to read and respond to the same thread by a different person over and over again but just do what I do. Scroll past it and enjoy the rest of the content that this forum or any other has to bring. If you really have to comment on it then just remember that it’s their toys and they can do what they want. If you find it really offensive then point it out politely as maybe someone over looked the fact that a Nazi themed IG army might not go down so well and suggest that the fewer iconography the better.


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I cringed at neither. As long as it's not half assed I seem fine with it for some reason. The thing I dislike though are when people do it simply looking for the hate, that will continually throw it out there until they get the angry reaction they expected. Most people couldn't care less.

   
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Cryonicleech wrote:
I can't think of a single conversion army that would make me cringe.


Really? I seem to remember a certain Dakka poster who painted miniatures with his own body fluids and modeled them in... interesting (i.e., phallus-involving) situations.

That kind of stuff points 'chaos tau' and ponies to shame.

   
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DPBellathrom wrote:. If you find it really offensive then point it out politely as maybe someone over looked the fact that a Nazi themed IG army might not go down so well and suggest that the fewer iconography the better.


As a Jew...I laugh my ass off seeing a little Hitler mod for Officer, and thought the great coats, and arm bands looked spot on. I didnt get to kill any of them Nancys, but I did think it looked very, very good. I even suggested the female Commisar model would look good added to it. We joked around that next he should do a KKK White Scares army.
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Daemonhammer wrote:Pony marines.
I read a post sometime ago about a guy who lost a match to a "little girl" who had CSM Painted in a similar manner and a sorcerer with a rainbow sword... *shrugs*
The concept of Pony-marines is wrong and horrifying, killing machines with armor styled like that is a proof of insanity, madness or even taint of chaos.
IMO Ponies represent something utterly evil, all efforts must be made to exterminate the treat and they must be "shot on sight" (like justin beiber )
But seriously now, i just think there is something wrong in the idea of "pony-marines".



"Thou shall smite the pony and its follower, wherever their foul taint shall be found"
-Litanies of the Alfa Legion Space Marine Chapter.

And pretty marines dont? Oh and angry marines too.

I suppose they do, but while Angry marines are something of a "Trollification" (just like the Alfa legion chapter mentioned above) and the pony marines... it just feels wrong.

RicBlasko wrote:[...]Nazi IG ( I seen a really well done army like that, and the player who was kicked out of a store for it) I just sort of shrug and move on.


I would never play against someone like that, its just shocking someone is enough to make something like that.

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