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Sure I can refer to Orks as a galactic power. A galactic power whose entire purpose is to deliver war, and they don't care about with whom they do it.

Orks might be superficially split into factions, but when another race comes into the picture they unite to destroy them. After all it's more fun to war with the other races than it is with other Orks.

Just as I was saying; Orks prefer mutual enemies to fight.
The best example of this would be the orkish response to Tau aggression on the eastern front.

Melissia wrote:Sure I can refer to Orks as a galactic power. A galactic power whose entire purpose is to deliver war, and they don't care about with whom they do it.

Orks might be superficially split into factions, but when another race comes into the picture they unite to destroy them. After all it's more fun to war with the other races than it is with other Orks.

Not neccesarily, Orks prefer to fight Orks because they are "proper" foes. Always tough and fight the proper Orky way. They only band together when they think it will lead to a bigger WAAAGH! not for any kind of racial pride. Waagh's by their nature are a temporary endeavor.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

Melissia wrote:Sure I can refer to Orks as a galactic power. A galactic power whose entire purpose is to deliver war, and they don't care about with whom they do it.

Orks might be superficially split into factions, but when another race comes into the picture they unite to destroy them. After all it's more fun to war with the other races than it is with other Orks.

Not neccesarily, Orks prefer to fight Orks because they are "proper" foes. Always tough and fight the proper Orky way. They only band together when they think it will lead to a bigger WAAAGH! not for any kind of racial pride. Waagh's by their nature are a temporary endeavor.

Not really. An ork, as it says in the codex, will generally only fight other orks if there is nobody else nearby to fight. They prefer fighting other people, as it makes for variety, something even orks appreciate.


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Wot no updates?

UPDATE FASTER GODDAMMIT!

Geeze, I go to sleep and wake up to have two people already ask where the next update is. Not like I'm some kind of webcomic artist with an established schedule or anything

I have number two finished, I'm working on number one.

Cooly needs to hug more pandas.

Better to get it right then rush it I say.

*pulls out wip*
"Back you lot!! BACK I say!!"

I hope Orks come first. Although IG are much better then what they use to be, I still feel they're rather dull in the combat department. Also, Im not so keen on most of the mini's.

Orks have variety in combat choices and game-play. Lets say, they just have 'more' overall.

OoieGoie wrote:*pulls out wip*
"Back you lot!! BACK I say!!"

When you said 'pulls out' I thought that the sentence would end differently. Thankfully I was mistaken.

Anyway, don't let them rush you Mel (yes, I will keep caling you Mel even though we've never really been freinds, for reasons I'm not entirely sure of). From personal exprience these things always work out better when time is taken anyway.

'Scuse me....But What's the current list looking like? No way I can go through like 35 pages to find a couple posts >.>

i wonder how many have actually followed the thread to the end?

Seasonal avatar FTW. Since you people have been so patiently waiting, here they are on all hallowed eve... er.. .the eve of that.

2: ORKS
(a cookie for anyone who gets this reference)

Gentlemen, I like Orks. No, sirs, I love Orks! I love Burnaboyz, I love Stormboyz, I love shootaboyz, I love boomkannonz and sluggaboyz. I love watching my Boyz utterly trash anything they see, and it's even amusing when I see them break and flee. I like seeing Orks in low-terrain games, full of terrain, in Cities of Death, in Planetstrike, in Apocalypse, I love to see every kind of Ork squad in any kind of 40k game. I love blasting my enemy to smithereens with lobba salvos that thunder across the lines of battle. My heart leaps with joy whenever a transport is popped open and is cut to pieces by a swarm of angry boyz! And there is nothing like a battlewagon deffrolling enemy tanks. And the feeling when a squad runs from their wrecked transport only to be mowed down by shootaboyz is so exquisite. Like when ranks of boyz brandish their choppas, rushing into the enemy line. It moves me deeply to watch a fresh yoofs chop over and over and over into the bloated chest of a long-dead enemy. The sight of cowards being chopped up by a nob is an irresistible pleasure. When a squad of pitiful Astartes makes their final stand with nothing but plot armor, only to have their armor smashed to atoms piece by piece by simple overwhelming weight of fire, it makes me grin. I even like seeing Orks squashed under tanks after a failed Death or Glory roll. And the joy of watching my enemies flee like vermin, ducking the fightabommas that fly overhead is rarely matched. Gentlemen, all Orks ask for is war. War so grand as to make the Warp itself tremble. Gentlemen, I ask you as fellow 40k players what is it you really want. Do you wish for further war as I do? Do you wish for a merciless, bloody war? A war whose fury is built with iron and lightning and fire? Do ask for a war to sweep in like a tempest, leaving not even ravens to scavenge from this galaxy?

Then, gentlemen, you ask for Orks. I don't think I can say any more than has already been said in this thread. I love Orks. I love their playstyle, I love their fluff, I love their models. I like watching the green tide ebb and flow across the table. I like watching lots of ramshackle trukks and battlewagons charge at my forces. There's really not a single unit in the codex whose concept I don't like, even if their execution could use some work in the end the codex is one fo the best designed in the history of GW's codex designs. The only reason they're number two is because the number one codex currently is the best fifth edition codex out there, and you know that this means that number one is:

1: IMPERIAL GUARD

Image full sized for emphasis.

The Imperial Guard isn't the best of the best that humanity has to offer. The Imperial Guard isn't roid-raging chemmed up drugged up hormoned up superhuman superhero supersoldiers in supersized superarmor. The Imperial Guard isn't psychic space elf ninjas. The Imperial Guard isn't the terror from the darkness of the void, seeking to devour all that lives. The Imperial Guard isn't ultraadvanced zombie robots from the past. The Imperial Guard isn't the very essence of hell itself puked out upon reality.

So what are they?

Human.

The Imperial Guard is the raw, purified essence of humanity. Though frightened to death we struggle, though desperately outmatched we fight, though beset on all sides by the deadliest foes known to fiction we survive. Humanity cannot look to the Astartes to save itself, nor towards the xenos that might have been allies in better days. No, humanity can only look to itself for defense, struggling on to finish the endless war for survival, to destroy all enemies and carve out a place in history for itself... a place that stays until the stars dim and the galaxy crumbles into dust. Even the dark powers of Chaos shall remember humans when we are gone, because we strike out against our enemies with such vengeance and fury that their powers cannot snuff us out, and instead they must struggle to corrupt us.

There's just something special about Imperial Guard, and it isn't just the fluff. It's also the army list itself. It has the most variety of any codex since second edition, and a ton of power spread out over a lot of builds-- it's not like some armies where there's just one power build. No, there's lots of them, because as long as you put thought into your army, your Guardsmen will grind your enemies into dust-- be it through boot heel or under tread, or even from the roar of valkyrie/vendetta engines, any intelligently built Guard list can put up a fight against any enemy list, no matter the codex. The special characters are flavorful without being over or underwhelimng, all variety of infantry squads (yes, even stormtroopers) have uses, all variety of vehicles have uses (though some of them somewhat underperform, they at least perform, which is more than one can say about the weakest units of other codices). Guard is over the Ork codex because of the sheer variety of the list, and I can't wait jfor Orks to get a fifth edition codex, and then we'll see who is first and who is second. Until then, Guard definitely has its spot at first place, and deserves it.

Woooooo guard #1!

OoieGoie wrote:i wonder how many have actually followed the thread to the end?

I did. I've read every post in this thread, from the first reply (me!) up until now. It's given me a feeling of staisfaction...

That said, Melissa, while I disagree about the Orks, that is merely my opinion. I respect your love of them, and it's good to see such devotion to the hobby.

I agree about the Guard. I've always had a special place in my heart for the IG, the humans who every day put their lives on the line so that others may live. They are, all of them, heroes.

Thank you so much for making this thread, it's been a great read, even though it got a little off topic at times. I thoroughly enjoyed every minute I spend reading it.

Samus_aran115 wrote:'Scuse me....But What's the current list looking like? No way I can go through like 35 pages to find a couple posts >.>

See the first post. I have been editing them into there.

I totally called it.

I barely made it to the end of this trainwreck, but by God, I limped across the finish line.

35 Pages... Phew.

Very good show, Melissia! Congrats on making it to 35 pages!

Ah yes.

Well done, Mellissia. A fine contribution!

(Forgot to mention that before. )

Melissia wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:'Scuse me....But What's the current list looking like? No way I can go through like 35 pages to find a couple posts >.>

See the first post. I have been editing them into there.

Ah, thanks. That's much easier. I was erroneously skipping the first page. Did I use that right? I want to use that word more.


W00t! Guard at #1! I agree. Great army, great fluff. Cadians are IMO the coolest models in the game for some reason...

GUARD! RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not surprised by this. I have wanted to get a pure Valkyrie list for a while. As my chapter has a tendency to use them for fun.

Asherian Command wrote:GUARD! RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am not surprised by this. I have wanted to get a pure Valkyrie list for a while. As my chapter has a tendency to use them for fun.

I've thought of doing this. Too expensive model wise, IMO. Otherwise, it's awesome. And I'd rather use vendettas.


Personally, I really want to build a sentinel list. You can take 9 sentinels without really disrupting the rest of the army too badly. They're only 45 points. That's about 400 points for nine. Not bad. I could easily waste 400 points on some Khorne terminators.

Well. I am going to convert the Valkyries all into Storm Ravens as I have a small chapter called The Wanderers and they use everything they got and find relics of other chapters and use it so. Yeah for me!

That last post makes me want to punch someone in the face.

I really have no explanation for said feelings. It is beyond my ken.

Melissia wrote:That last post makes me want to punch someone in the face.

I really have no explanation for said feelings. It is beyond my ken.

What? That I want to build a Blood angel list for chapters That people are telling me to start so that It can inspire others to work on their own chapters? Yeah I sounded like a dick.....

Melissia wrote:That last post makes me want to punch someone in the face.

I really have no explanation for said feelings. It is beyond my ken.

Now that's more like it!

Asherian Command wrote:

Melissia wrote:That last post makes me want to punch someone in the face.

I really have no explanation for said feelings. It is beyond my ken.

What? That I want to build a Blood angel list for chapters That people are telling me to start so that It can inspire others to work on their own chapters? Yeah I sounded like a dick.....

Who is telling you that?

Melissia wrote:That last post makes me want to punch someone in the face.

I really have no explanation for said feelings. It is beyond my ken.

I think I agree for some reason.

Valkyries are too small...I hope the stormraven is a bigger kit.

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Melissia wrote:That last post makes me want to punch someone in the face.

I really have no explanation for said feelings. It is beyond my ken.

I think I agree for some reason.

Valkyries are too small...I hope the stormraven is a bigger kit.

I agree with that too. but Its all I can work with....

Yeah, I understand. Hopefully you'll get one in the next couple months.

YAY. Guards. Ive been rooting for them since Tau got dumped at 12 or something

Samus_aran115 wrote:Yeah, I understand. Hopefully you'll get one in the next couple months.

Lets hope. I really need two of them. As this one chapter needs to stay consistent.

Cool to see Guard Win.

Nice Speech about the Orks, then again I'm imagining it with a heavy german accent