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Agrax Earthshade is what it seems Devlan Mud is becoming.

The shade may not be exactly the same, but it looks very very similar.

I suspect there'll be a suitable alternative, but buy a couple of pots just in case maybe!

Orki wrote:

The Decapitator wrote:As far as I'm aware these paints have been specifically designed to be used straight from the pot and actually work very well without the need for water or Medium.

I had a hunch that they might be doing this. ie pre-watered down for the layers. This is a great idea for those that haven't learned how to thin correctly, like most of their target customer base, but for those of us that can actually paint it is an insult of a joke. Selling us water...

While I'm as happy as the next bloke to bash GW for being stupid, this is getting a little carried away. You should be able to paint straight from the pot. The fact that GW's paints have generally needed to be watered down is a flaw, not a feature.

Regnak wrote:Please tell me I can still buy Devlan Mud once these are out

As has been mentioned several times so far, Devlan Mud is still theoretically there, with a name change. How different it will actually be from the current Devlan Mud remains to be seen.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat470002a&prodId=prod1560002a

Apparently they're going at it already?

EDIT: Painting guides: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/paintChart.jsp?catId=cat820002a

EDIT 2: Price of painting guide: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat470002a&prodId=prod1490018a

Conversion chart of older GW paints: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2320032a_Citadel_Conversion_Chart

I'm sure I'll get ninja'd by now..

Conversion Chart:

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2320032a_Citadel_Conversion_Chart

:( Hoped the new painting articles would have been ready with the launch.

how to paint book looks cool


oops my bad, didnt click all the links ima happy chappy now

I caved and got the complete set, you get a free large case to store the paints in, which I figured would be a nice addition, but no real discount. It's a limited item apparently, but I'd wager it's limited to the number of people who have over $500 to blow on paint, rather than them having a limited supply.

I figured I'd sell me existing paints to people who want to have backups for ongoing projects to recoup some of the cost.

While a lot of people are complaining, I'm just happy GW has taken feedback from people on their paints and tried to change things up a little. The painting guides are key for me, never get bored of learning new techniques.

i would have had a look but it appears the GW website is getting hammered at the moment and is non responsive....

I have bought 4 new paints over the last 3 days. I don't trust GW to get it right when matching up old and new paints. And I needed proper foundation paints

I kind of want that painting guide :p

Maybe I'll buy the 40k starter set. Nice way to test the paints out and give my black reach marines a bit more manpower :p

brainscan wrote:i would have had a look but it appears the GW website is getting hammered at the moment and is non responsive....

Likewise, can't get anywhere near it. Did someone say the painting articles are back?

I just got on but instead of the norm, it is simply a list of topics, the logo, and sign in/register.

Maybe it is just a temporary fault but maybe not...


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Never mind. Got sorted. Site is up and runnibg normally again on my end.


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Maybe not then... I don't know they are doing. Maybe servitor 13 is screwing a harddrive?

I for one really dislike the name changes, they are pretty bad. I am not opposed to the new line though. Bleached boned made sense, what is a ushabti?

Edit -ok I used google so I know what it is now just doesn't roll off the tounge.

An Ushabti is a Tomb Kings construct; made primarily with bone and obsidian.

Deathshead420 wrote:I for one really dislike the name changes, they are pretty bad. I am not opposed to the new line though. Bleached boned made sense, what is a ushabti?

Edit -ok I used google so I know what it is now just doesn't roll off the tounge.

Meh, they can call them anything they like so long as the quality is still decent. I will give them a test on a few spare plastic minis next weekend.

Am I the only one that can't get through to the GW site. Connection keeps timing out. Is a painting guide that popular?

Yeah, the site's slow as hell at the moment.

They're probably uploading everything at the moment

silent25 wrote:Am I the only one that can't get through to the GW site.

No. Hence the discussion immediately preceding your post...

insaniak wrote:

silent25 wrote:Am I the only one that can't get through to the GW site.

No. Hence the discussion immediately preceding your post...

Hits refresh....

Damn you Insaniak!!!!!



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Finally got in. One paint is $3.00, so no change there really. Painting guide is $49.50. Will have to look through it, but $50 puts it above most name painter videos.

insaniak wrote:

Orki wrote:

The Decapitator wrote:As far as I'm aware these paints have been specifically designed to be used straight from the pot and actually work very well without the need for water or Medium.

I had a hunch that they might be doing this. ie pre-watered down for the layers. This is a great idea for those that haven't learned how to thin correctly, like most of their target customer base, but for those of us that can actually paint it is an insult of a joke. Selling us water...

While I'm as happy as the next bloke to bash GW for being stupid, this is getting a little carried away. You should be able to paint straight from the pot. The fact that GW's paints have generally needed to be watered down is a flaw, not a feature.

Eh? A flaw? I can paint straight from tub, and do quite often. All you need is a damp brush.

Like I said, i'm sure it will go down well with GW's target audience even if it does turn out to be pre-thinned to the 'skimmed milk' consistency that many have trouble achieving.

So no, I persoanly am not getting carried away, as I personally am capable of deciding for myself how much to thin my paints. YMMV of course.

Water is free and can be added to taste at the whim of the painter, whereas making it thicker at will is quite the opposite. Well, if the current/old tubs didn't do it for us while sitting on the shelf.

I am still very much looking forward to trying out the new paints of course, but I'm very seriously hoping that The Decapitators post was just a guess with regards to the watering down, and he wasn't speaking through personal experience (which was unlikely, though not impossible, at the time of posting).

It's all moot of course anyway, as we will find out for ourselves whether or not we like the new paints come tomorrow!

I think they are out nextonth but just on order tomorrow.

Orki wrote:Like I said, i'm sure it will go down well with GW's target audience even if it does turn out to be pre-thinned to the 'skimmed milk' consistency that many have trouble achieving.

I suspect that you're reading too much into the 'paint straight from the pot' comment. Most model paints are usable straight from the pot, without being that thin... because most people don't use them that thin.

The trouble with GW paints for the last decade or so has been with them thickening up when not in constant use, thus requiring them to be watered down when you use them. This isn't a problem I've had with most other ranges. So I would take the 'paint straight from the pot' claim to simply mean that the 'new' paints won't be as prone to thickening as the current crop.

False.

Water is not free.

Anyway, I do hope that all the paints I'm using will be kept, even if they are renamed, cause otherwise I'm gonna have to redo my colour scheme...Oh the mountains of gaunts...

first time ive ever seen the GW website break!

The website seems to be getting a little faster.

The painting guide book is £30 & comes with a 90 minute DVD.
136 pages covering 8 armies.


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Starter hobby set is £35.
don't know what the old one was

insaniak wrote:

Orki wrote:Like I said, i'm sure it will go down well with GW's target audience even if it does turn out to be pre-thinned to the 'skimmed milk' consistency that many have trouble achieving.

I suspect that you're reading too much into the 'paint straight from the pot' comment. Most model paints are usable straight from the pot, without being that thin... because most people don't use them that thin.

The trouble with GW paints for the last decade or so has been with them thickening up when not in constant use, thus requiring them to be watered down when you use them. This isn't a problem I've had with most other ranges. So I would take the 'paint straight from the pot' claim to simply mean that the 'new' paints won't be as prone to thickening as the current crop.

I keep a bottle of Liquidex Thinner on my table and I usually find myself adding a couple of drops to my paints if it has been a couple of weeks since I last used it.

from the website-
'When it comes to painting Citadel Miniatures, this book is an absolute must-have. This mighty tome is crammed full of information about painting; from undercoating your miniatures and applying your first layer of paint, right through to your final highlight.

To help you achieve great results there are 136 pages of articles on how to undercoat your models, how to apply Base Paints, Shades, Layers and Glazes, how to use Textured Paints, what Drybrushing is all about, how to use transfers, and many other techniques. There's even a 90-minute DVD included to show you how to put these techniques into practice and get the most out of the extensive Citadel Paint Range. The book also includes eight army projects, each of which is a complete army painting guide from start to finish.

And if that wasn't enough, the book has been designed to stand up on its own, so you don't need to wedge it underneath something to be able to see the stage-by-stage painting guides inside. All in all, this is one book that every hobbyist should own, whether you're new to painting Citadel miniatures, or a painting guru.'


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starter set:
The Hobby Starter Set provides you with the basic glues, paints and basing materials you'll need to start painting and modelling your Citadel miniatures collection. The Hobby Starter Set is also one of the most cost effective ways to begin or add to your paint collection.

This set contains:
1 pot of Leadbelcher (12ml)
1 pot of Macragge Blue (12ml)
1 pot of Waaagh! Flesh (12ml)
1 pot of Averland Sunset (12ml)
1 pot of Bugman's Glow (12ml)
1 pot of Mephiston Red (12ml)
1 pot of Mournfang Brown (12ml)
1 pot of Imperial Primer (12ml)
1 pot of White Scar (12ml)
1 Starter Brush
1 pair of Plastic Cutters
1 bottle of PVA Glue (20ml)
1 bottle of Plastic Glue (20ml)
1 Tub of Static Grass (10 grams)
1 Tub of Sand (45 grams)


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Bugman's Glow - what sort of colour name is that??

Site is up again with.new paints!