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do you think that Hawk turquoise might get the boot?

Balance wrote:

Mastiff wrote:

Dysartes wrote:Have you tried Coat D'Arms, which are the old colours in the old-style pots with slightly tweaked names?

I haven't. To be honest, I probably won't because I'm pretty picky; I find every paint line has their own weight, dry time, coverage, texture (plasticy vs. chalky) etc. I find when I switch paints I have to actively focus on adapting to the properties to blend and shade properly, or to use as a wash, or the detail it will allow. That changes painting from relaxing to "work". Yeah, I've got issues

I believe Coat D'Arms was GW's supplier for paint for many years. They know the original formulas because they made them.

How are their reds and yellows? They were notoriously thin back in the day, with very poor coverage. I was glad when GW moved to a new formula to fix that. Would that be Coat D'arm's formula?

tarnish wrote:

Bakerofish wrote:They will be getting rid of the current paint pots

and they will be selling paint in the new, ultra-convenient paint applicator sachets

Plausible and i lol´ed

A genuine lol from me, too

Capitansolstice wrote:do you think that Hawk turquoise might get the boot?

I hope not it's a lovely colour!

I suppose one thing we can be sure of is increased prices and perhaps even smaller quantity.
TBH I just use GW foundation and washes, I would have been happy to stay with the standard colours but the crappy re-design of the pot put me off using them.

Well should we get even the slightest price rise I am switching to Vallejo! I have all the Blood Red I need and have been searching for a better range of metallics anyway...

Honestly, not a big deal for me. I only use a couple foundations and washes for my work. For everything else, I use craft store acrylics. Ten times the quantity for half the price, with no noticeable change in quality? Yes please!

So, I've never joined a run on a bank on a rumor. But this is altogether more serious. I'll be buying up a significant stock of GW washes when I'm in my FLGS today. Mainly Devlan Mud and Ogryn Flesh.

Commander Cain wrote:Well should we get even the slightest price rise I am switching to Vallejo! I have all the Blood Red I need and have been searching for a better range of metallics anyway...

Vallejo also has Bloody Red, which is Blood Red.

Stepped into the Seattle Bunker today, and they seemed to have a full shelf of paint.

Archroy wrote:

Scipio Africanus wrote:They will have a new pot called Paint Thinna [to fit in with 'ard coat] It will be used to thin paints. It will be composed of semi-pure Dihydrogenmonoxide.

They will charge 7 dollars a bottle, just to show how special the product is.

I'd buy this... Bet it'd be much better than simply using water...

I certainly hope that's an addage to my joke... [Can't pick up sarcasm on the interwebz, sorry.]

Anyway I kinda like the current pots. I don't have issues with the caps breaking anymore, and aside from the fact that the lids don't lock open, I see no real problem with them.

That said, I also use GW tools. I don't use their paintbrushes anymore, but I did use them without issue for a long while. [The brushes just didn't get small or large enough for my likings.]

Happygrunt wrote:Stepped into the Seattle Bunker today, and they seemed to have a full shelf of paint.

Well yeah. GW stores won't run down their stock 2 months before the change is meant to be made. They'll keep stock on hand and do it overnight the day before.

-Loki- wrote:

Happygrunt wrote:Stepped into the Seattle Bunker today, and they seemed to have a full shelf of paint.

Well yeah. GW stores won't run down their stock 2 months before the change is meant to be made. They'll keep stock on hand and do it overnight the day before.

my FLGS had everything with at least 4 deep in pots except boltgun metal, was completely empty, but due to come in tomorrow. They said they have heard nothing. They only carry GW paint and michaels is about 1 mile away.

I use all kinds of paints these days,I stop using GW exclusively years ago.
I do have the complete GW range with a couple dozen Vallejo,P3 for Menoth white,Military Colors from Tamiya for airbrushing armor and aircraft,Alclad II for serious metallic work,Testors Enamel Olive Drab for armor,oil paint for weathering.
Ron from ++From the Warp+++ has excellent results using craft paint you get at Walmart/Craft store.
But I would buy much more than 2 pots of Devlin Miracle,I rip through that stuff about a pot every other month

Talked to the owner of my LGS today, and he mentioned this to me. His rep has no idea what's going to happen, but he confirmed the single pot ordering, and the warning to keep a low number of paints in stock.

Scipio Africanus wrote:

Anyway I kinda like the current pots. I don't have issues with the caps breaking anymore, and aside from the fact that the lids don't lock open, I see no real problem with them.

Have you got the current range though, where they have removed the 'kink' from the neck of the lid so it doesn't stay open without support?

That, more than price increases or reduction of paint in the pot, was enough to stop me buying them.
Seriously, how much money could that have saved? Fraction of a cent per pot?

Hopefully get some deadly nightshade back in the mix if they re introduce older paints and tenticle pink. Just means my paint desk is going to have gw paints through the era look to it

Didnt some guy post a rumour some time ago about how GW was supposed to increase the quaility of the paint? His dad were working at some paint producing place that were negotiating a deal with GW? Couldnt it be this?

Just a theory on my part, but I'm going to guess that they're adding a premium line to the range too, to follow on from the 'eavy metal brush set, seems like a good time to go main stream with da paints & brushes wot da profeshunul paynters yooz

I swear if it's called FineCoat I will buy n0t_u a DCM membership for a year.

Mastiff wrote:

Balance wrote:

Mastiff wrote:

Dysartes wrote:Have you tried Coat D'Arms, which are the old colours in the old-style pots with slightly tweaked names?

I haven't. To be honest, I probably won't because I'm pretty picky; I find every paint line has their own weight, dry time, coverage, texture (plasticy vs. chalky) etc. I find when I switch paints I have to actively focus on adapting to the properties to blend and shade properly, or to use as a wash, or the detail it will allow. That changes painting from relaxing to "work". Yeah, I've got issues

I believe Coat D'Arms was GW's supplier for paint for many years. They know the original formulas because they made them.

How are their reds and yellows? They were notoriously thin back in the day, with very poor coverage. I was glad when GW moved to a new formula to fix that. Would that be Coat D'arm's formula?

They were pretty gak back in the day, the red especially. I remember having pots of coloured water with a solid lumps of pigment in the bottom... I used Humbrol acrylics back then because Citadel paints were so poor...

Scipio Africanus wrote:

Archroy wrote:

Scipio Africanus wrote:They will have a new pot called Paint Thinna [to fit in with 'ard coat] It will be used to thin paints. It will be composed of semi-pure Dihydrogenmonoxide.

They will charge 7 dollars a bottle, just to show how special the product is.

I'd buy this... Bet it'd be much better than simply using water...

I certainly hope that's an addage to my joke... [Can't pick up sarcasm on the interwebz, sorry.]

Yes, it most certainly was...

Pacific wrote:Have you got the current range though, where they have removed the 'kink' from the neck of the lid so it doesn't stay open without support?

Because this came up several times now:

The new pots including the Foundation pots were never meant to stay open for taking paint from the lid. If you try, the paint pours down on the outside of the pot. The Foundation pots had a stopper (!) to prevent people from opening the lid too far, but it got misinterpreted as a pin to keep it open, so they removed that pin. GW wants everyone to use a pallette or surface from which paint is taken, not the lid anymore.

kitch102 wrote:Just a theory on my part, but I'm going to guess that they're adding a premium line to the range too, to follow on from the 'eavy metal brush set, seems like a good time to go main stream with da paints & brushes wot da profeshunul paynters yooz

It would be a good idea!

Capitansolstice wrote:

kitch102 wrote:Just a theory on my part, but I'm going to guess that they're adding a premium line to the range too, to follow on from the 'eavy metal brush set, seems like a good time to go main stream with da paints & brushes wot da profeshunul paynters yooz

It would be a good idea!

Good idea, yes, but not logical. Why would you run down stocks of existing paints if you were adding a premium range on top of the existing range?

Of course, that isnt to say they wouldnt repot/rebrand the existing paints at the same time, rather than having both old and new style paints.

So apparently I'm out of the loop as I've only used GW paints since I started playing about 5 years ago. I think what was said multiple times (too lazy to go back and give credit ) in this forum is true. They will most likely not be changing the tops but dropping and adding "new colors" to the line and I predict another price rise to cover "cost of making new paints" that aren't actually new. Not Complaining just putting my two cents in since on launch day I'll be there with a smile and open wallet.

Off topic: can someone tell me the other paint companies they use? I know nothing of them

H.B.M.C. wrote:I swear if it's called FineCoat I will buy n0t_u a DCM membership for a year.

n0t_u better sig this quick.

Mechanicum Jon wrote:So, I've never joined a run on a bank on a rumor. But this is altogether more serious. I'll be buying up a significant stock of GW washes when I'm in my FLGS today. Mainly Devlan Mud and Ogryn Flesh.

Nothing is changing with foundation or the washes, from what I hear.

Kroothawk wrote:
The new pots including the Foundation pots were never meant to stay open for taking paint from the lid. If you try, the paint pours down on the outside of the pot. The Foundation pots had a stopper (!) to prevent people from opening the lid too far, but it got misinterpreted as a pin to keep it open, so they removed that pin. GW wants everyone to use a pallette or surface from which paint is taken, not the lid anymore.

Thanks, I'd wondered about that. Since I do a lot of painting directly out of the pots I'd taken to shoving a length of cut sprue in the hinge to keep the pot open while painting.


For what it's worth, I asked the staff in my local FLGS here in Hong Kong about the rumor and they said that they weren't aware of the rumor and GW had not made any changes to the restocking policy yet. I still bought six pots of Devlan Miracle though.

gotta love fear enduced marketting. "hey guys we are gonna change something in our paint line....better buy up all you can now just in case"

change = new labels and 1$/pot price hike.

"hey check out our new supercool paints that make you paint like the 'eavy metal team! and heres a new book telling you how with lots of cool pics! buy all this great new stuff at a great deal of 25% more! yay!" < /end blog>

This is an excellent time to switch off of GW paints before they get even more expensive and impractical, just like the coming of Finecrap and the last insane pricehike was an excellent time to quit buying GW figs.

Buy your standard colors now (the ones you rely on heavily for one of your armies, and which are hard to emulate with paint from other companies). Transfer them to droppers to keep them fresh for longer.

Then drop GW paint like a hot rock and buy something else. Really, once you quit it becomes pretty painless. GWs paints are pretty standard (unlike their excellent if insultingly expensive plastic miniatures, which I still mourn from time to time while pinning metal Infinity figs).

Despite a massive stock of GW paint, I started buying Vallejo, Reaper Master and P3, and will never go back. Highly recommended for painters both casual and technical.

Really, GW is insulting your intelligence with every price hike, and often with declines in product quality. Massive changes to their product line (like this paint switch is looking to be) have been tied to these insults over the recent past. Vote with your cash, folks. Drop 'em and you'll feel better about it.

[Hey GW folks, if you're reading: change your product lines without screwing the customer, and voices like mine will slowly shut up. I would love to be proved wrong, but you've kicked us in the crotch so many times that it's hard to believe you wouldn't do it again.]

Mastiff wrote:

Balance wrote:

Mastiff wrote:

Dysartes wrote:Have you tried Coat D'Arms, which are the old colours in the old-style pots with slightly tweaked names?

I haven't. To be honest, I probably won't because I'm pretty picky; I find every paint line has their own weight, dry time, coverage, texture (plasticy vs. chalky) etc. I find when I switch paints I have to actively focus on adapting to the properties to blend and shade properly, or to use as a wash, or the detail it will allow. That changes painting from relaxing to "work". Yeah, I've got issues

I believe Coat D'Arms was GW's supplier for paint for many years. They know the original formulas because they made them.

How are their reds and yellows? They were notoriously thin back in the day, with very poor coverage. I was glad when GW moved to a new formula to fix that. Would that be Coat D'arm's formula?

I have the coad d' arms reds and yellows, and they are very thin compared to the current gw paints. I find that to be the case across the range. It will take a slightly different approach to using them compared to today's gw paints (ie more thin layers). I still bought a bunch of the CDA paints because I like the colors and they last a long time. I can work around the consistency change. YMMV.