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So now that repentia rage has been changed, anyone thinking about taking them? I've got a hankering to do just that.

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:So now that repentia rage has been changed, anyone thinking about taking them? I've got a hankering to do just that.

Nope. They were always a 'if I have points' choice for me since they are a bit unreliable. Now that the 'if I have points' choices can be filled with forts and allies? No way. Much rather throw in a blob with ACs or a Vendetta.

Thats cold. I feel like if I think hard enough I could find a way to use them........

Transports got killed....
They are still I1.....
guess it'll take some time to figure out how huh?

Vindicare-Obsession wrote:So now that repentia rage has been changed, anyone thinking about taking them? I've got a hankering to do just that.

Yeah, I've been trying them out. Biggest hurdle for them is the lack of an Assault vehicle that they can use, and the changes to disembarking from non-Assault vehicles being much much worse. I've been working on footslogging them behind BSS Rhinos for cover/non LOS for my opponent, but it is a work in progress. I'm hopeful for their future too as well as with Penitent Engines.

n0t_u wrote:No, but six can shoot out of it.

Other than that it's a Rhino with a Heavy Flamer thrown on if I remember correctly.

It comes with a dozer blade and a free storm bolter. Also 1 person can shot any weapon from the top hatch while 6 people can shot basic weapons from it's fire points.

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n0t_u wrote:No, but six can shoot out of it.

Other than that it's a Rhino with a Heavy Flamer thrown on if I remember correctly.

It comes with a dozer blade and a free storm bolter. Also 1 person can shot any weapon from the top hatch while 6 people can shot basic weapons from it's fire points.

Basic weapons equal bolters or anything they are carrying?

What other FW units are out there for us, aside from the Repressor?

Also, most of the FW rumor got debunked and the N&R thread closed, so don't get your hopes too up.

pretre wrote:Basic weapons equal bolters or anything they are carrying?

I believe basic weapons is a reference to the witch hunter codex, where bolters were basic weapons.

Necrosis wrote:

pretre wrote:Basic weapons equal bolters or anything they are carrying?

I believe basic weapons is a reference to the witch hunter codex, where bolters were basic weapons.

Ewww. So it's kinda worse than a rhino, except it comes with a HF on the top. One shot out the hatch plus bolters is not better than 2 shots out the hatch.

I'm planning on getting an Aegis Defense Line for my army. I know that most people are viewing it as the cheapest way to get a Quad Gun, but I'm thinking about running it w/o any gun emplacements. At 50 pts it seems like having 30" of deployable 4+ cover/difficult terrain is pretty amazing.

It's uses will vary with the board (part of why I find it so appealing), but even if you only use it as an "Exorcist pen" I think it will make its points back. Anyone thinking of interesting uses or disadvantages to taking an ADL?

EDIT: As a side note, here's the 1500pt army I'm using with the ADL. I need to test it out, but I think this is what I'll be taking to the Golden Throne GT in August.

1500pt GT List wrote:
HQ
St Celestine (115pts)

Troops
BSS - Melta, Hvy Flamer, Combi-melta, Rhino (200pts)
BSS - Melta, Hvy Flamer, Combi-melta, Rhino (200pts)

Fast Attack
Dominions - 2x Melta, Combi-melta, MM Immo (180pts)
Dominions - 2x Melta, Combi-melta, MM Immo (180pts)
Seraphim - 10x, 2w/ Hand Flamers, VSS w/ meltabombs (200pts)

Heavy Support
Exorcist (135pts)
Exorcist (135pts)
Retributors - 4x Heavy Bolter, Simulacrum (105pts)

Fortifications
Aegis Defense Line (50pts)

I'm not sure about the Heavy Flamers, but I had 20pts left over. I dropped the Eviscerator from my Seraphim VSS because I expect that her meltabombs and their kraks will keep me safe from being tarpitted by walkers.

Wow. I didn't notice that Defense Lines work for any model. Combined with only needing 25% coverage, that's awesome. Good find, Amerikon!

I'm thinking of taking an ADL + Quad gun and put Uriah and DCA/Crusaders behind it. Uriah runs the gun and the squad rocks the 4+ cover / FNP. Go ahead, come and take my objective or come within 8-18" of me.

Adding the gun emplacement is an easy way to get some long range AT though. The icarus cannon is pretty damn nifty. Although SoB can't pull easily shenanigans like other armies with cheap BS5 characters firing it or having squads with special rules fire them.

EDIT: Dominions for re-rolls or Retributors for rending I guess.

Shandara wrote:Adding the gun emplacement is an easy way to get some long range AT though. The icarus cannon is pretty damn nifty. Although SoB can't pull easily shenanigans like other armies with cheap BS5 characters firing it or having squads with special rules fire them.

Can also get a canoness to fire it! We can always twin link it or make it rending with our acts of faith.

Unless people resort to our tactics and flame us out.....
Would suck to be on the reciving end of that lol

Uriah is BS5. That's why he's running the gun.

Rending's a good choice to glance land raiders to death or penetrate necron vehicles.

Still sinking 65 pts (naked Canoness) + 85-100 (ADL + gun) is quite a bit. Then again we lack any other reliable anti-flyer/anti-tank.

And thats when you take IG allies with hydra tanks

I would just put a retributor squad with it and give it rending. Your retributors still fire their heavy bolters while the superior is manning the turret.

Shandara wrote:Adding the gun emplacement is an easy way to get some long range AT though. The icarus cannon is pretty damn nifty. Although SoB can't pull easily shenanigans like other armies with cheap BS5 characters firing it or having squads with special rules fire them.

EDIT: Dominions for re-rolls or Retributors for rending I guess.

Are the gun emplacements subject to the Skyfire restriction of BS1 vs ground units? If so it'd make them very situational. That said, I like your idea about using the Rets. Put your Ret VSS on the Quad Gun and get some twin-linked rending autocannon beastliness. I might try to trim an additional 50pts from my list and try that trick out.

Shandara wrote:Rending's a good choice to glance land raiders to death or penetrate necron vehicles.

Still sinking 65 pts (naked Canoness) + 85-100 (ADL + gun) is quite a bit. Then again we lack any other reliable anti-flyer/anti-tank.

Not to mention that the Canoness is pretty useless otherwise, whereas Uriah is still awesome.


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@Amerikon: list looks pretty good. Let us know how it works.


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Also, the gun emplacements have interceptor, so full BS.


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Necrosis wrote:I would just put a retributor squad with it and give it rending. Your retributors still fire their heavy bolters while the superior is manning the turret.

That is a good idea.

As for Hydras, they kinda are bad now, so I'd go for something else if you're allying IG. Maybe a Manticore?

Does anyone else run canoness? I run two right now and give them both inferno pistols. I actually like this build cause I can shot 4 melta shots out of a rhino.

I might after reading gunfighter or whatever the rule is for 2 pistols

Necrosis wrote:Does anyone else run canoness? I run two right now and give them both inferno pistols. I actually like this build cause I can shot 4 melta shots out of a rhino.

Yeah, but it's just 6" and 3" for Melta. Seems pretty yucky for the points. Especially since the opportunity cost is Uriah or Kyrinov and Celestine.

Necrosis wrote:Does anyone else run canoness? I run two right now and give them both inferno pistols. I actually like this build cause I can shot 4 melta shots out of a rhino.

I like how the Canoness can get twin Inferno pistols for less than a Serphim even though she's BS5. That would be a really cool HQ if they hadn't taken away her ability to buy a Jump Pack. (Didn't the old 2E Codex have a veteran Seraphim character?) The Passion would also be a nice buff to Seras in the assault phase as well.

Actually the point cost for 2 inferno pistols for a canoness is the same as duel inferno pistols for seraphims. You know what really bugs me. Every Sister Superior can get two plasma pistols expect the seraphim superior!

Necrosis wrote:Actually the point cost for 2 inferno pistols for a canoness is the same as duel inferno pistols for seraphims. You know what really bugs me. Every Sister Superior can get two plasma pistols expect the seraphim superior!

Ah, I thought it was 40pts for the Sera's twin-meltas. That is pretty silly, although I think if she did have twin-plasmas she'd die a lot. A Dominion VSS with twin-plasma would be pretty nifty though. Can you really do that?

Right now I give all my sisters of battle superiors twin plasma pistols. It helps out verse tanks and killing heavy infantry. Also the act of faith allows me to reroll 1's to hit which stops me from over heating.

That's a pretty interesting idea. I like the gunfighter aspect of it. Hmm.


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Still, 30 points per model is pretty steep.

Yeah but we have so little to handle TDA anything helps.