Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Neith wrote:(I think the Codex alluded to the likelihood of the Terror being a Mawloc instead of a unique species?)

I like to think of the Red Terror as a 'prototype', that is to say if the Hive Mind comes up against something unusual it makes a creature to defeat that obstacle. If that obstacle proves to be unique, the creature is never seen again. If it finds a general use for that creature, or finds that obstacle appearing in other places, then it refines it and makes a 'production version'. So Red Terror is the Mk.I Mawloc in a lot of ways.

It's a bit hard for me to tell, but the Terv/Tyrann appears to be on an oval MC base, correct?

I'm loving these releases. I might pick up a Tyrant to make into a Swarmlord (since my current 2 Tyrants are 2nd edition dudes). I won't be buying any new Terv/Tyrann kits soon, since I already converted what I need...and actualy my Tervigons already look pretty damn close to the actual kit...excellent! I just need to move the gun off my Tyrannofex's back and have it holding the gun now...I'm on it!

Even though I don't play SW, those wolf models looks really nice.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Stickmonkey said he'd seen the Tervigon and Tyrannofex and couldn't see how it would be a dual kit.

Which really makes you wonder. I mean, looking at the two I can't see how they wouldn't be a dual kit?

I know. the first thing I thought when I saw it was 'how did he not see this as a dual kit?'. I could imagine the confusion if the chimneys were different or something, but it's basically a head and belly swap, and different front arms.

Also, I realized I'm going to need at least 3 more boxes of Termagants.

Yep. Ovals.

60mm round bases are so 4th Edition!

Hey Cryage, did you take into account shipping?

Hell, I'd pay an extra $5 more just to be able to drive down to the local store and be able to pick one up and build it the same night.

And probably be able to get a ton of extra bits in the process.

And be more accurate in terms of scale, since the Tervigon is supposed to be larger than a Carnifex.

Zoned wrote:And be more accurate in terms of scale, since the Tervigon is supposed to be larger than a Carnifex.

I'd be raising issues on this alone. The Tervigon model is almost as tall as a Trygon. The Chapterhouse kit makes a fat Carnifex - and if done properly, hunched forwards, and significantly shorter. There's going to be a lot of complaints now about modelling for advantage when using that conversion kit.

I doubt it. I think more people with Tervigons will have the actual Tervigon rather than the CH kit.

I am now considering not getting FW dread for one of these. Or I may just wait till Xmas. Also are there any shrikes about and when the March WD oyt?

d be raising issues on this alone. The Tervigon model is almost as tall as a Trygon. The Chapterhouse kit makes a fat Carnifex - and if done properly, hunched forwards, and significantly shorter. There's going to be a lot of complaints now about modelling for advantage when using that conversion kit.

Honestly, for me I wouldn't have an issue as long as they rebase it, and even then it would only be an issue for me in a tourney. I really don't think it's game breaking enough to cause a fuss about it.

I am now considering not getting FW dread for one of these. Or I may just wait till Xmas. Also are there any shrikes about and when the March WD oyt?

Forgeworld sells Warrior wings, all you need is those and a Warrior kit, then BAM! Shrikes.

Forgeworlds Warrior wings are really nice. I totally missed the news about finecast dual bonesword and bonesword/lash arms. I might have to order a set each, since I have 2 sets of Warrior wings. I'm hesitant to run them in squads bigger than 3 due to hiding bigger squads being difficult, so 3 each of dual bonesword and bonesword/lashwhip should give me some flexibility.

Remember Loki - you'll have to pay local prices for those. I'd consider alternative swords/whips made by other companies.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Remember Loki - you'll have to pay local prices for those. I'd consider alternative swords/whips made by other companies.

Local prices I'm guessing are going to be the #33 bracket, which is about what I paid for my warrior wings. I don't mind too much.

I have a weird self imposed rule for buying locally. I'll do it up to about $75. This covers usual impulse buys that I can get away with from the missus. Anything more than that, and I go overseas.

So the Tervigon and Carnifex kits I want, I'll be going to Dicebucket. Locally, that's what, $280? Dicebicket, with postage, it's about $150. The missus will be okay with it if I tell her I'm saving almost 50%.

I need Termagants, and I'll probably grab a box a week for a while. That's $40. That's an impulse buy.

Loki,

I have some still on the sprue if you need them. Ill probably let them go for much less then $40 and shipping shouldnt be bad at all.

PM if you want them. (I have about 130 assembled termies, doubt I need more).

all I can say, is wow, love the Tervigon, might just have to get it.

All the pics are up a few pages back now.

-Loki- wrote:I need Termagants, and I'll probably grab a box a week for a while. That's $40. That's an impulse buy.

Why bother? It is such a huge rip-off.

How many boxes are you going to get? 4? 6? Let's be conservative nad say 4. That's 4x$40 for 48 miniatures. $160. For +$15 and a bit of shipping you can get double that.

I do not see the sense in buying anything locally when you can get it overseas at nearly half the cost. For a Direct Only model, sure, especially now that GW inflates their shipping because they're a bunch of witches, but for anything you can get around the world and don't specifically need to get from a GW store, there is simply no point. You are pissing your money away.

-Loki- wrote:

Red Comet wrote:

xttz wrote:

Red Comet wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:I guess that puts those "Transportofex" rumours to bed, along with the "The Tervigon and Tyrannofex aren't a combined kit" reports as well.

How does it put the Transportofex rumours to bed? For all we know GW could release the Transportofex at a later date. I don't see how this invalidates that rumor at all.

The rumour said that the Tervigon would be a combined kit with the transport bug, and the t-fex would be separate.

That is true, but did all of the rumours suggest it was only going to be released as a Dual Kit with the Tervigon?

It was an amalgamation of rumours. IIRC, the WD editior let slip Tyranids would get a beasty that 'filled a gap they always had'. Stickmonkey said he'd seen the Tervigon and Tyrannofex and couldn't see how it would be a dual kit. Someone else said that a new beast with rules by Phil Kelly would be done. I think people just filled the gaps and the rumour started itself that it would be a dual Tervigon/something else. The idea of a transport came from the initial 'a gap the Tyranids never had'. With the Tyrannofex in the book covering long range anti tank, the only gap left they never had was some kind of ground transport.

That sounds about right from what I remember. I don't really see how anyone could say the Tyrannofex and Tervigon were two completely different kits. They look almost exactly the same and no one knows for a fact if its a transport. In fact I'd say the gap they've always had is no vehicles in general. I know its Nids and they aren't supposed to have that, but it is the most obvious gap.

So are we going to get rules for the Red Terror now that they recast it?

darknightwing wrote:So are we going to get rules for the Red Terror now that they recast it?

The rules are already in the codex.

Hint - he's a Mawloc.

darknightwing wrote:So are we going to get rules for the Red Terror now that they recast it?

The Red Terror had always been available in metal.

The Codex says it's either the size of a Ravener or a Mawloc. Regardless, it's essentially a Ravener. Old rules treated it like a Mawloc.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

-Loki- wrote:I need Termagants, and I'll probably grab a box a week for a while. That's $40. That's an impulse buy.

Why bother? It is such a huge rip-off.

How many boxes are you going to get? 4? 6? Let's be conservative nad say 4. That's 4x$40 for 48 miniatures. $160. For +$15 and a bit of shipping you can get double that.

I keep overlooking this store. I was actually looking at 4 boxes (with my current box, that puts me at 60 Termagants, plenty for 20 Devilgaunts and the rest Tervigon spawn). And I noticed that place actually does have a x4 set of Termagants. So thanks for reminding me. I've got to bookmark these guys when I get home.

You seem to know about these guys - how long does it take them to get new releases up? I'd buy a x2 or x3 of the Tervigon kit from them. And do they stack postage? Say, if I got a x2 Carnifex kit and a x2 tervigon kit, do they stack the postage of both?

My main reason I buy locally is because I love my FLGS, and like supporting them. They get all my infinity money, and hobby supply money though.

Then let them happily keep your Infinity and hobby supplies money. I see no reason to give them or anyone local money for GW product, not until they restructure their pricing bands to be global.

In any case, I'm not sure about new releases with these guys. I've actually not used them myself, but a couple of the guys in my group have used them multiple times and swear by them. I can't imagine it will be too long.

Additionally, they can modify bundles for you, or make special ones. If you want a 6xGaunts bundle, they'll do it.

Zoned wrote:Hey Cryage, did you take into account shipping?

Hell, I'd pay an extra $5 more just to be able to drive down to the local store and be able to pick one up and build it the same night.

And probably be able to get a ton of extra bits in the process.

And be more accurate in terms of scale, since the Tervigon is supposed to be larger than a Carnifex.

Yeah you're right, totally forgot about the shipping.

If I didn't have the CH kits, and it was between CH and GW, absolutely go GW. Since I do have 3x CH kits, I honestly cannot justify $210 CAD to buy 3 models that I already have perfectly good proxies. Anybody at the GW store give me flack, well they can pound sand since it took GW 2 years to get us these models, not to mention the kit is about 50% GW bits and 50% CH for the "bulk"

As for scaling, i'm sure it will be pretty similar. it's mounted on an oval base

Size comparison between Hormagant, Carnifex, CH Tervigon:



Looks pretty close in size to the GW one.

Sasori wrote:

d be raising issues on this alone. The Tervigon model is almost as tall as a Trygon. The Chapterhouse kit makes a fat Carnifex - and if done properly, hunched forwards, and significantly shorter. There's going to be a lot of complaints now about modelling for advantage when using that conversion kit.

Honestly, for me I wouldn't have an issue as long as they rebase it, and even then it would only be an issue for me in a tourney. I really don't think it's game breaking enough to cause a fuss about it.
.

Like I said, CH provided oval bases for their tervi's , so no issues

edit: Also -Loki- ,I've purchased LOTS from that ebay seller and have had NOTHING but exceptional service and delivery times. Going across the ocean may take awhile, but its WELL worth the savings.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Then let them happily keep your Infinity and hobby supplies money. I see no reason to give them or anyone local money for GW product, not until they restructure their pricing bands to be global.

In any case, I'm not sure about new releases with these guys. I've actually not used them myself, but a couple of the guys in my group have used them multiple times and swear by them. I can't imagine it will be too long.

Additionally, they can modify bundles for you, or make special ones. If you want a 6xGaunts bundle, they'll do it.

Do you know if they mix bundles? I've seen their army deals. If they could do 2 Tervigons, a Carnifex and 4 Termagant boxes, I'd drop the money on it in a heartbeat.

-Loki- wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:Then let them happily keep your Infinity and hobby supplies money. I see no reason to give them or anyone local money for GW product, not until they restructure their pricing bands to be global.

In any case, I'm not sure about new releases with these guys. I've actually not used them myself, but a couple of the guys in my group have used them multiple times and swear by them. I can't imagine it will be too long.

Additionally, they can modify bundles for you, or make special ones. If you want a 6xGaunts bundle, they'll do it.

Do you know if they mix bundles? I've seen their army deals. If they could do 2 Tervigons, a Carnifex and 4 Termagant boxes, I'd drop the money on it in a heartbeat.

I know sometimes they mix bundles, could always msg the sellar and see what they can do

I've got all the new Tyranid and SW pics up on my site:

http://www.chrisvalera.com/new_stuff.html

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

chris_valera wrote:I've got all the new Tyranid and SW pics up on my site:

http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com/new_stuff.html

--Chris
www.chrisvalera.com

They're also available on Dakka. What's with the shameless blog plug?

Pics on the site are pretty big, though, and all in one place. The only one that's lower quality than what I've seen here is the one of the Flyrant.

HBMC's picture uploaded on Dakka:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/at2/2012/2/21/432ef6092314b9d1d9a7b25a084d062f_494.jpg

Shameless blogger's shameless plug:
http://www.chrisvalera.com/blog/blog_new_01.jpg

Same size.

I wonder if we'll have to wait another two years for more Tryanid goodness?