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My necro ended up changing her secondary to staff to make use of the minecromancer build, and was successful with it.

My ele makes use of staff and double daggers as well, nad lightning is as awesome as I expected it to be.

I also enjoy warrior rifles and greatswords, a great combination.

Not sure I enjoy thieves or engineers, didn't get neough time on either.

After playing around with the Guardian, I think making a Fire Condition based Guardian is going to be interesting. But I was originally going about it the wrong way.

But, I also learned that a Sword/Axe Ranger is freaking awesome as hell to play. Bouncing around, attacking targets at different angles and throwing your boomerang axe!

I also tried to make an Earth Elementalist but all the weapon combinations really did not satisify me. Either too much protection or not enough, there was not a good middle ground. I think Scepter/Dagger did the best.

For necro, switching between staff and dagger/dagger I found was the best strategy.

The staff allows you to be the minecromancer-- that is to say, you have four marks which are basically mines, including a heal (or rather, regen buff to allies), while the staff's main attack generates tons of life force (especially against mobs of enemies) which allows you to regenerate life force very quickly. The dagger/dagger on the other hand does lots of conditions, steals health, and does extra damage depending on how many conditions that the enemy has. This combined with the minemark that transfers your allies' conditions to the enemy, the plague signet which transfers your allies' signets to yourself (and transfer them to your enemy when activated), and consume conditions (heals extra per condition you have, and removes all conditions), the signet of spite (grants power and gives a whole metric fethton of conditions when activated), and the signet of undeath (generates life force, revives all nearby allies when activated) allows the necromancer to be the master of debuff control and gives you tons of life force to play with death shroud.

It's very hard to play and you have to pay special attention to your and your enemys' debuffs to make it work though.

Is anybody actually going to get the collector's edish?

I think corpses was gonna do it.

I bought collectors.

You had to have already bought the game to play the last beta.

Beta was excellent, met all my expectations and exceeded some - and that is really, really hard to do with the absolutely gigantic hype train it had going.


I'm even more excited that, as unoptimized as the game was, I only ever lagged when there was a LOT of people in one area - and that wasn't my machine.

My machine is top-end, but I was surprised in the beta nonetheless.

yeah.
Do any of you guys know much about graphics cards? i know my computer has all the other requirements, but...
it's an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 Series w/ 1GB dedicated memory.
Anyone know if that will run it?

Mine's an ATI Radeon HD 4800 series, and that ran absolutely fine unless there were tons of people in the same area. The 4650 isn't that far behind the 4800, so i'd say it could probably run it.

Sweet, thanks.
Do you think it can just run when there's no people, or when there's some people?

Mine can run when there's people around without bother, it's when you run into large masses that it starts to lag.

I played about 14 or so hours on Sunday/Monday from late afternoon/evening to the End of Beta Weekend event, and the only times it lagged were during global spikes or during the event at the end where there were tons of people in one place, all casting spells.

Great, thanks... so I should be set then. I'm actually super psyched for this game, and a buddy is getting it too. (so many of my friends only play COD... sigh....)

So anyway, sorry if this was posted but I missed it...
will there be a Dakka guild?

Yeah me and Slarg run one, add quantech on steam.

Awesome!
Thanks guys and sorry if I sound nooby, I'm just getting into PC gaming these last few months.

It's cool I was the same when I first really got into PC gaming when I got a PC capable of running decent games a few years back (built for gw2).

Karon wrote:Beta was excellent, met all my expectations and exceeded some - and that is really, really hard to do with the absolutely gigantic hype train it had going.


I'm even more excited that, as unoptimized as the game was, I only ever lagged when there was a LOT of people in one area - and that wasn't my machine.

My machine is top-end, but I was surprised in the beta nonetheless.

Yes, it really only has a problem when there's lots of people on the screen at once.

And my computer's old, like January 2006 old (2.67ghz dual core, 3.25gb ram, Windows XP SP3, ATI Radeon HD 3850).

I ran it in medium settings and only got lag when there were three dozen or more people around me all casting spells. And even then it was still going fast enough that I was able to keep up in combat.

This was the worst beta I've ever been in, and the game is going to tank hard.


Edit: Bizarro reverse land.

Did anyone else find they were short on funds pretty often?

Seemed like I was always broke lol.

Same, especially after I got my traits book. I made up for it by doing hearts.

Southeastern Ashford near the submarine has ridiculously hard skales. You aggro two of them, you die.

I find that's the case with melee combat in general. Especially in crowded situations, or against large monsters where you're too close to see the tells for each attack.

As far as risk/reward is concerned for melee and ranged weaponry, at least for PvE (all I did in the beta) I think something needs to be changed.

Ya, when I ran into that Shadow Behemoth in the swamp, it was kinda hard to tell what was going on with my Guardian. I was always right in front of the beast and I could not fit the entire thing in my screen.

Was still an awesome event none the less.

Xeriapt wrote:Did anyone else find they were short on funds pretty often?

Seemed like I was always broke lol.

I was perpetually broke. I had to scrounge up cash from selling what I crafted to vendors since it wasn't going for very much more in the... whatever it's called (i'll just call it AH for now ). I got my traits book around level 14

Next beta will be spent trying to play the AH a bit, because i'm sick of being penniless.

Anyone else planning to run an Elementalist: Sceptre w/ dagger off-hand in the next beta?

No, but I am gonna try a staff/greatsword mesmer if I remember correctly.

Fafnir wrote:I find that's the case with melee combat in general. Especially in crowded situations, or against large monsters where you're too close to see the tells for each attack.

As far as risk/reward is concerned for melee and ranged weaponry, at least for PvE (all I did in the beta) I think something needs to be changed.

The point is that every class has ranged options and should take them, hence the two weapon sets.

Classes that don't have two weapon sets have ranged options built into all their weapon skill bars.

Interestingly, after that event, I think I have now focused on making my Burning Guardian much better. Here is my more focused build: Burning Guardian

The Virtue of Justice causing burning on every 5th hit (or 4th hit if you have Judgemental) works on everything that will "hit". This includes AoEs, cone effects, ect. This lets weapons that do not have an innate way to cause burning to easily cause it due to maybe having an ability that does multiple hits (like Zealot's Defense and Cleansing Flame, which surprisingly does not cause the Burning condition but does a ton of small hits very fast so basically will cause Burning if Justice is up.)

The Burning condition deals a good amount of damage but generally has short durations. But multiple stacks of Burning increases the duration of this condition. With the above mentioned build, I can easily keep 2 targets which are close together permanently on fire between AoE attacks and multiple attack skills.

The above mentioned build has many teleports and a way to keep him/herself moving, staying with your intented target, with a Stability boon and many ways to remove conditions with the abilities (Cleansing Flame and Purging Flames are good examples).

Corpsesarefun wrote:

Fafnir wrote:I find that's the case with melee combat in general. Especially in crowded situations, or against large monsters where you're too close to see the tells for each attack.

As far as risk/reward is concerned for melee and ranged weaponry, at least for PvE (all I did in the beta) I think something needs to be changed.

The point is that every class has ranged options and should take them, hence the two weapon sets.

Classes that don't have two weapon sets have ranged options built into all their weapon skill bars.

In fact, I quite like using the rifle to start off Volley does a lot of damage quickly, and then I pull out the greatsword and hack them to pieces.

Switching between weapons usually results in the best strategy. Even my dedicated lightning elementalist has some water for healing purposes and further debuffs.

I'm going to have to get used to switching to Water for healing with my Fire Ele; maybe stick Earth somewhere in there for good measure, and to ensure that Fire has cooled down by the time I come to use it again.

I really, really hope they don't listen to the people who don't know how to dodge/play and nerf the game.

It was difficult at some points, but it was ENJOYABLE that way.

I don't want a cakewalk leveling experience, I want it to be different.

Melissia wrote:No, but I am gonna try a staff/greatsword mesmer if I remember correctly.

Now look here, this town ain't big enough for the two of us, Pardner