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Pretty sure the idea is that if you're not bringing Rapiers in a list, you can still bring the models as this squad.

I think the idea is the same as the proxy/conversion guides in Arcane Journals.

"we don't make a model for this but this is how you can represent it using Citadel miniatures"

chaos0xomega wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ordered three boxes of the Quad/Laser Rapiers.

Still tempted to use the crew, with appropriate weapons of course, as a Recon Squad. The armour just looks suited to that role to my eyes.

We know they're intended to be used as an Augur Command & Control Squad, so there is precedent for them running around without Rapiers

Which is something thats been bugging me - you need 2 crew per rapier, when will you ever have spare crew for an augur squad? Or is the idea that you can only field them when youre not fielding rapiers?

The crew are also on a separate sprue from the Rapiers.

My hope (not based on anything other than copium) is that GW might sell the crew sprue separately for a limited time while the book is new. But that's probably overly optimistic...

Or the crew may get reused if they come out with say a Legion Basilisk kit

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I think the idea is the same as the proxy/conversion guides in Arcane Journals.

"we don't make a model for this but this is how you can represent it using Citadel miniatures"

Yes, but in many cases you are using most/all of the kit for those, or youre using the spare parts of the kit (like the white lions).

This is basically asking you to buy a kjt and not use most of it.

No really, it's more telling you that you have an option of how to use the models in the kit in different ways.

Slightly off topic, but I need to rant about Rapiers. Why in the world can't GW rules guys get on the same page when it comes to Rapier rules? I get the want 30k and 40k to be different, but the unit organization is totally scattershot. In HH it's the carriage and two guys. It used to be the same in 40k, but for some reason I 9th they decided it needed to just be a single model with one crew member. And don't get me started on if the crew are armed with bolters or bolt pistols, as that's seemed to go back and forth too.

 Gert wrote:
Surely not on the bit about the flamer template?

Without looking at the leak, I'd guess they're trying to nail things down to prevent any arguments about whether a model is affected or not - and that this might include at least one diagram.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Surely not on the bit about the flamer template?

Without looking at the leak, I'd guess they're trying to nail things down to prevent any arguments about whether a model is affected or not - and that this might include at least one diagram.

I checked, no diagrams.

https://i.4cdn.org/tg/1749857324452909m.jpg

Can't get the damn image to display

In what universe were diagrams a problem?

It's like they've gone into a meeting and asked, "How do we make this the least accessible ruleset we've ever made?"

 Gert wrote:
In what universe were diagrams a problem?

The AI can't parse them!

chaos0xomega wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I think the idea is the same as the proxy/conversion guides in Arcane Journals.

"we don't make a model for this but this is how you can represent it using Citadel miniatures"

Yes, but in many cases you are using most/all of the kit for those, or youre using the spare parts of the kit (like the white lions).

This is basically asking you to buy a kjt and not use most of it.

Or, given the crew models for the Rapier need only be present and not necessarily visually distinct? Swap them out for Random Marine 1 and 2.