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Trilobite wrote:Do you water the inks down at all? I use some inks as washes with a little water and flow aid.
On a side note, that T guard is one mean looking lizard, the Old Ones would be proud!

On the lizard no. I used pure green ink as the base coat. If I was going to just use it to shade something though then yeah, I think I would be using a touch of water. A lot of the time I'll actually use an ink to dilute paint as well... Especially black, makes black go on very very smoothly...

More work on the Temple Guard test figure. While it might seems like I'm taking a very long time on this guy, in reality it's only moderately bad. *sob*

It's not really that bad, just using some colors I don't normally play with and it makes things a little slower, once I get into the batch painting *shudder* things should move quicker.

Done today:

Dots - Done in Mechanite Orange first, then blazing orange for the pin-point dots. One layer didn't look right, but the second dot gave them some more depth. I've also done a few dots here and there with P3 Hellfire over the blazing just to give him a little oomph.

Armor: My usual gold recipe with a wash of red thrown in to give it a more bronze look, then a touch of drybrushing to give with base gold and light gold (Andrea color paints) to bring up the spines.

Bone, fangs and claws: Done with Menoth Base and then multiple layers of sepia wash and a highlight with Menoth base again. I think I might have to change up the way I do either the external bone or the lizardmans claws and bone. They look very similar... But it is quick... ^_^

Still got to do the detail work; ie gem & eyes, and probably more work on the green, doesn't quite look right... Oh and the shield... Duh...

I think you could do with lightening the bone a little more, or at least the helm. At the moment it's just getting lost into the gold/bronze. I'll confess to only skimming the thread, but have you painted the body of the club? If so, what? I've been having trouble with mine and poking about to see what others are doing. (It turns out trying to paint something up as obsidian on such a small surface... err, doesn't work.)

Morgrim wrote:I think you could do with lightening the bone a little more, or at least the helm. At the moment it's just getting lost into the gold/bronze. I'll confess to only skimming the thread, but have you painted the body of the club? If so, what? I've been having trouble with mine and poking about to see what others are doing. (It turns out trying to paint something up as obsidian on such a small surface... err, doesn't work.)

It's black ink over white undercoat right now. I haven't decided what I want to do with it... I agree about the helmet, it's not quite finished yet, but it does get a little lost...

I think it looks great vent! I really think youve got more skill than you like to admit

tony_nids_10 wrote:I think it looks great vent! I really think youve got more skill than you like to admit

Thanks Tony. As for any skill I might possess; I'm well aware of my own shortcomings, especially in light of some of the phenomenal painters on these forums... But I do love to paint these little things, and I think that's important ^_^

I agree! I think your painting is great and I like how you explain what you're doing, not just posting a picture and moving on.

Those look really nice man. I had seen those Windsor Newton inks before, and never risked trying them. Next time I am up that way I will have to pick some up to mess around with, especially now that another 60+ marauders are in my future

Thanks for the tech, and keep up the good work!

Thanks guys

@Wehrkind: 60+ Marauders?! I have trouble thinking about doing ten lizards! Make sure you shake the ink pots, they have a greater tendency to separate if they've sat around for awhile... ^_^

Finishing up my Temple Guard Test figure. It's been a slower process than I would of liked, but I have a lot of stuff going on in the real world and haven't really had a lot of time to paint. Hopefully that will change soon.

I've had a few comments that the gold and bone get lost together, so in an effort to separate the two I have made the gold darker by adding a thin black wash around joins and cracks & given the bone another highlight of pure menoth base. The colors look a little more distinct now.

I've attached and started work on the shield. Still need to do the brighter shades of orange on the shield. I'm unsure if I want to do the rim scales in orange, leave them green, or go for another color. I'm leaning towards another color right now. Maybe bone. My reasoning is that the shield doesn't look very distinct otherwise. Almost as if it's part of the body; if you have any opinions shout out. I like help... ^_^

Only things left to do is a little bit of shield work, the eyes and the gemstones. I think that when I'm "batch painting" I'm going to go for a figure a day rather than paint by stage. I've done it both ways and I prefer the figure a day method...

No new recipes today. Everything is pretty much the same colors as I've been using...



As always I appreciate any and all comments and feedback, otherwise I feel like I'm talking to myself... And I always get into an argument when that happens...

I dont know just about anything about lizardmen, but it seems weird to me that the shield is the same as his skin. To me it looks like its a strange growth off his arm or he killed another of his kind and cannibalistically salvaged his brother's scales. anyways if thats how lizardmen are done then shows what i know but i think its a chance you to make a contrasting element. The painting is certainly well executed, just an aesthetic choice.

Agreeing with crim here, it does seem a tad odd that they would flay each other for shields, rather than just skinning some poor stegadon.

Thanks guys, I do appreciate your input. I think I might take it on board as well. Stegadon's are red according to GW (yes, I had to look them up), which is perfectly opposite green on the color wheel so it should work quite nicely, yellowish for the ridges/scales... I'll do it tomorrow and post some pics.

Alrighty, finished my Temple Guard test figure. It's quite simple when I look at him now, but it took some redoing of parts over and over again.

The biggest of all is the shield. Going from the green to red seems like such a no brainer now, but if you'd told me to do it before I would never have thought of it. But that's why I like to post WIP's, so people can give me pointers and ideas. Shield is Mechanite Red, then a devlan Mud wash with a blood red for the rim ridges. The cream is menoth base and menoth highlight a little brightness. Also changes the cream from the bone.

I'm kind of tempted to redo some of the bone, but I probably wont...

The eyes are simple yellow dots. I was considering going for something like slits, but this is meant to be speed painted... Which I suck at, but you get that...

Someone else also said the blade looked very dull so I went with black and then granite for a single highlight.

Vent, according to my wife your lizardman is painted great, but looks too clean to be a proper lizardman.

Looks great vent, the progression from green skin to orange scales to red shield is quality

IceAngel wrote:Vent, according to my wife your lizardman is painted great, but looks too clean to be a proper lizardman.

lol, thanks IceAngel, I think? ^_^ BTW I got your Miniature today. Bloody awesome dude. Great color choices, and he looks mean as! What do you use to make the Ice Crystals?

BLACKHAND wrote:Looks great vent, the progression from green skin to orange scales to red shield is quality

Thanks Blackhand. I think the red shield gives it a little bit of Zing, more so than a green shield...

A full unit of those would look amazing Vent, for sure!

My favourite thing about Lizardmen as an army in general is that each unit can be so different when it comes to colouration. I have lots of little skinks around the apartment in varying primary colours

If you want something hilariously fun to paint, try the little chameleon skinks. You can go full out with those. Any colour or pattern you can think of, hah!

vent wrote:lol, thanks IceAngel, I think? ^_^ BTW I got your Miniature today. Bloody awesome dude. Great color choices, and he looks mean as! What do you use to make the Ice Crystals?

I use a product called Decor Glass Mix - Teal. They are tiny little plastic shards that come in every color you can come up with. When I apply them I also use a different glue which I found turns the base or the contact point all frosty. It gives it a nice effect. I am glad my marine made it safe! I wasn't sure what to expect from a cross the globe adventure he just took.

The differentiation between the metal and the bone is much nicer now, and both work really well individually. The gold has more of a bronzish touch which suits lizardmen.

And I have some Windor Newton ink I use for calligraphy. Never thought of using it on models. My black primer has just run out, so maybe I should grab some white and experiment.

Incredible stuff. All of it!

Excellent as always. have to agree with BLACKHAND about the colour progression, quality stuff

Thanks guys ^_^

Geeez, it's been a really long time since I've painted a Shadow Sanctus Marine! The Shadow Sanctus (Or Saints if you don't know your latin) is a Blood Angel Sucessor Chapter whose Gene Seed was mixed with Ultramarines to give it some stability. Well... That's what I say so I get to use some oh so pretty blue for the veterans... I've been putting this guy off for a very long time; for which I owe IceAngel a massive apoligy. I got his marine the other day and that got me off my ass to stop the lizards for a little bit and get this guy done...

There's a whole bunch of things all over him which still need to be done; completing the red is the largest. More highlights required... The gun also needs a lot of work, the pack needs to be started (cringe)

I tried a new eye technique on him, but am not overly happy with the results, they look a little strange...

Egads, I wasn't meant to do the base either... Got a little carried away, so I'm going to have to finish it now... I have some snow features which I'm going to add in there, but I'll leave a space for the ice crystals that IceAngel uses...




Colors:
Armor: Basecoat is a 2:1 of Scab Red and... And... Ummm it's all mixed up already and was done a long time ago... I think it was scorched brown? Not sure...

Gun: Chardon Granite then Black Wash with Highligthing still to come

Helmet: Ultramarine Blue (3x thin coats). Recesses are done with watered down Blue wash. Highlights are done with UM Blue and Menoth Base, the mix of Menoth gets heavier the lighter the highlight.

Robe Front: Foundation Purple color (If someone can tell me what that's called, my label has come off) then Purple Wash. Highlights are done the same way as the helm was. Mixing the base with Menoth.

I think that's everything? Mwahaha Even if it's not I'm stopping here, you've all read enough of me yakking on...

He looks good vent. Like the black on the melta gun. Not overly cartoony (which I like). Colors are bold w/ good contrast, tabbard ties the helmet & body armor together. All in all a very nice fig, looking forward to the next phase.

I like him quite a bit. Not sure on the basing tho, looks like he's on stilts or just showing off the the more balance-impaired Marines. Do you usually file off the little ear things on marines?

whalemusic360 wrote:Do you usually file off the little ear things on marines?

I know I do, I can't stand painting them, I don't know why

I like em vent! I can see what you're talking with the eyes though. Don't worry about the basing. Have you named him yet?

Thanks guys

whalemusic360 wrote:Do you usually file off the little ear things on marines?

Yeah, I've started too. I hate them so very much... ^_^

IceAngel wrote:I like em vent! I can see what you're talking with the eyes though. Don't worry about the basing. Have you named him yet?

A name? Ummm can't say that I have. Should I name him? Or would you like that responsibility?

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I've gotten a couple of PM's over the last week of people asking me how I take my photos. Should I write a tutorial for this? I don't want to seem preachy since I'm still quite new to both the hobby and this forum. Opinions?

As no one responded I won't be writing a photography tutorial... Saves me the effort...

Finally got around to finishing off this trade marine... I swear I'm getting slower at painting... First off, the photos are not that great. Bad weather, and only two lights equals a slightly washed out red armor. I've really tried to push the blending, and while it's only worked to a certain extent, the photos don't show the true finished color that well.

Done today:
Added Snow. Mix a bit of snow flock up with PVA glue and apply. then dust some more over the top to make it all sparkly.

Back Pack: The very bane of my existence is a SM Back Pack, I stab thee in thine eye... Standard colors, just annoying...

Writing: I was thinking of making this a ribbon thing and having it be all different colors. Then I realised I was painting a SPACE MARINE, not an eldar...

Knee Pad. Nothing shocking. Just made it Blue. *GASP!*

Music listened to: Wicked Original Cast Soundtrack... Showtunes ftw!

Thought for the day: Why does 'watching paint dry' get a bad wrap? Water leaches from the paint into the air and leaves behind a solidified form! That's bitching! And I've been drinking to much coffee... Weeeeee... Pictures!

Oh, before that I named him IceAngel. As I've just finished reading 'Name of the Wind' He can be called "Kvothe" ^_^

Vent, as always it looks amazing and as always you are entirely too hard on yourself! Oh and I will be waiting for the picture tutorial. I would have responded sooner but work has me away from my precious dakka!