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2011/04/25 22:23:04
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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If you really want every cult unit to have a variant, even though Noise Marines are easily the least used, then Berserkers would get their Chainaxe upgrade back, a two handed weapon that always hits on 3+ or better and adds +1S, Plague Marines can have 4+ poisoned weapons and the Rubric Marine aspiring sorcerer can upgrade his force weapon to allow him to re-roll Psychic tests (though Inferno rounds seem to do enough for them as is). I really think that the Echo Blades would just give a use to the +1 Initiative of the MoS, otherwise +1 BS would be more useful.
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Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can play the best chess in the world, but at the end of the day the pigeon will still knock all the pieces off the board and then gak all over it. |
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2011/04/26 13:01:15
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Tell you what Durza, if you PM me what it is exactly you're suggesting (eg. Power Weapon? 1 hand? effects? etc.) and I'll look into it...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/04/26 21:57:36
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Sorry, I'm being a bit of an ass amn't I?
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Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can play the best chess in the world, but at the end of the day the pigeon will still knock all the pieces off the board and then gak all over it. |
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2011/04/26 22:00:13
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Fixture of Dakka
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No, it's fine, I'd just rather discuss such an idea in PM rather than having everyones suggested additions floating around in the thread.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/04/26 22:30:31
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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I personally think the rules are coming along fantastic. Can't wait to see the finished product, mate!
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2011/04/26 22:43:45
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thanks man, I'd be happy to email you the latest PDF should you ever want me too. Hope you're OK man.
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As ever, all suggestions and C+C is welcome!
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/04/26 22:52:15
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Been sick as hell and lots and lots of storms but I'm still kicking. I'd love to get an email of that PDF.
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2011/04/26 23:40:39
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Well at least you're still kicking. Hopefully not any buckets at that.  I'll try to send you a copy tomorrow providing I remember. 
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/04/27 15:18:02
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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Ach, all this Chaos makes me want to finish that ever growing army issue I have. I need to get all of that stuff knocked out so I can at least field an army at some point in the next year...
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2011/04/28 14:35:38
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Any chance you could send this to GW and tell them this is how a real Chaos codex should work by the way? I miss the cool stuff.
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Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can play the best chess in the world, but at the end of the day the pigeon will still knock all the pieces off the board and then gak all over it. |
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2011/04/28 15:21:16
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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I think they would implode from the effectiveness/fluff coexistence.
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2011/04/29 08:05:46
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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no they would explode messily for our amusement
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Skullscreamers 2000  
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2011/04/29 11:42:27
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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Or do both at the same time. Somehow.
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Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can play the best chess in the world, but at the end of the day the pigeon will still knock all the pieces off the board and then gak all over it. |
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2011/04/29 22:25:03
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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yes their legs would implode and their torsos and head etc would explode, the vacuum effect of the legs imploding would create an inverted mushroom cloud of gore
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2011/04/30 00:00:12
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
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You are all very disturbed and that's why Chaos loves you. <3
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2011/04/30 00:20:43
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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hahaha exactly
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My best friend wrote:See nerds can get hot gorgeous girlfriends... does she have a friend???
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2011/04/30 03:14:26
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
Kelowna BC
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terminator champion and chaos chosen champion have 4 wounds?
i'll roll 4d6 to your one that's a typo.
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2011/04/30 10:41:06
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Fixture of Dakka
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 Yeah, that'd be a typo by the maker of that PDF version. If you look at mine on page four and the non-pdf/Dakka thread content on page 1, you'll see that that's not the actual stat...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/05/07 12:47:20
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Fixture of Dakka
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You guys hadn't thought I'd forgotten had you?
Later today I'm intending to post up the penultimate version of the PDF which should have the near-finalised rules and near-finalised (but to a much smaller extent) design. When I post this up I also intend to ask if people can design some army lists off it, just so I can get a better understanding of what the 'dex is capable of and any flaws...
Cheers,
Dave.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/05/07 13:02:26
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Perth/Glasgow
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What do the icons do?
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2011/05/07 13:14:53
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - (2) PDF('s) now available - SEE PAGE 4!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Which Icons? If you're referring to the squad Icons, then they're pretty much the same as their current incarnation except that MoS adds No Mercy! which is detailed on the first page/post under the spoiler.
Everything you need to know will be included in the PDF later however...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/05/08 15:10:02
Subject: Re:Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - FULL PDF AVAILABLE. 'Av a look!
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Fixture of Dakka
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My latest (and penultimate) version of the PDF Codex is up on the 1st post. It should contain the latest rules and wargear, as well as containing all the special rules, entries and wargear so everything you need to play a game.
If people could post army lists created from this Codex that would be really appreciated. PLEASE. These lists would help me examine the balance of the Codex.
Of course you are all welcome to use it in your own games and all feedback is welcome, as ever.
I'll post my own army list shortly...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/05/08 15:43:26
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - FULL PDF AVAILABLE. 'Av a look!
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Dankhold Troggoth
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WOW, the pdf is really in-depth! Very cool work 
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2011/05/08 16:17:42
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - FULL PDF AVAILABLE. 'Av a look!
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Tunneling Trygon
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Awesome...
I Love it...
You've done us Justice Dave !
Thank you!!!!
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2011/05/08 18:04:18
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - FULL PDF AVAILABLE. 'Av a look!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thanks guys, I appreciate the support! As I said, all army lists are welcome to help me check it's balance etc. Well, not from you 'Tides; you don't even play 40K!
Cheers!
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/05/08 20:45:15
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - FULL PDF AVAILABLE. 'Av a look!
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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Ah, how I dearly wish this was the actual Chaos codex.
Way back with the 3.5 codex I had the idea for a pure thousand sons force, just got round to borrowing a friends 5ed chaos codex last week, and I almost wept.
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=====Begin Dakka Geek Code=====
DQ:80-S---G+MB-I+PW40K00#-D++A+/fWD-R++T(M)DM+
======End Dakka Geek Code======
"I just scoop up the whole unit in my hands and dump them in a pile roughly 6" forward. I don't even care."
- Lord_Blackfang on moving large units
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2011/05/08 23:58:50
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - FULL PDF AVAILABLE. 'Av a look!
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Depraved Slaanesh Chaos Lord
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Chaos 2000
Hq's
Chaos Sorceror
Terminator armour, Familiar, Deamonic Toughness, Mark of Slaanesh, Icon of the Emperors Children, Lash Warptime, Warp rift
215
Greater Daemon
MoS
175
Elites
Chaos Terminators *5
terminator Champions *5, Pair of Lightening claws *4, Chainfist, Heavy Flamer, Mark of Slaanesh, Daemonic Toughness,
Land raider Marauder, Havok, EA, Twin Linked Bolter, Frag Maw, Combi Melta, Dirge Caster, Dozer Blade
605
Troops
Noise Marines *6
Champ, Power Weapon, Doom siren
Rhino, Open Topped, Havok Launcher, Extra Armour
237
Noise Marines *6
Champ, Power Weapon, Doom siren
Rhino, Open Topped, Havok Launcher, Extra Armour
237
Heavy Support
Chaos Predator
Las Turret, Las Sponsons, EA, Havok
180
Chaos Defiler
Mark of Slaanesh
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Chaos Defiler
Mark of Slaanesh
175
1999 points
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This is as close to my current army as i could get, and i have to say, i like it, its geared more towards infantry killy but it could still romp through a vehicle line with the deffies and the pred, all in all a strong force, alsoe the GD gives it a late game (hopefully) suckerpunch
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/05/09 00:01:41
Skullscreamers 2000
My best friend wrote:See nerds can get hot gorgeous girlfriends... does she have a friend???
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2011/05/09 23:44:40
Subject: Re:Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - FULL PDF AVAILABLE. 'Av a look!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Thanks for compliment Jack! That's exactly the kind of thing I'd like people to say! Thanks also for the list Marta! That's exactly the kind of thing I'd like people to post right now!
Here's a list of my own, may go in as an example army list within the PDF, not meant to be overly competitive, just TAC and show variety and the rules...
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Chaos Sorcerer - Icon of the Black Legion - 150pts
Terminator Armour, Warptime, Chaos Theory, Guidance of Chaos
Daemon Prince - Icon of the World Eaters - 195pts
Wings, Mark of Khorne
Elites
5 Chaos Terminators - Icon of the Black Legion - 180pts
Reaper Autocannon, 1 Power Fist
Chaos Dreadnought - Icon of the Black Legion - 140pts
Twin-linked Lascannon, Heavy Flamer
Troops
10 Chaos Space Marines - Icon of the Black Legion - 220pts
Mark of Khorne, 2 Meltaguns, Chaos Rhino
10 Chaos Space Marines - Icon of the World Eaters - 215pts
Mark of Khorne, 2 Meltaguns, Chaos Rhino
8 Khorne Bezerkers - Icon of the World Eaters - 236pts
Skull Champion with Power Weapon, Chaos Rhino with Open Topped
10 Heretics - Icon of the World Eaters - 50pts
Lasguns
Fast Attack
Helltalon Divebomber - Icon of the Black Legion - 165pts
Heavy Support
Defiler - Icon of the Black Legion - 150pts
2 Havoc Launchers
Defiler - Icon of the Black Legion - 145pts
1 Havoc Launcher and Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon
Almost 1850pts
Not particularly competitive, but all-comers, combination of in-your-face and shooty and hopefully demonstrates the variety of (new) units available etc.
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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2011/05/10 02:22:59
Subject: Re:Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - FULL PDF AVAILABLE. 'Av a look!
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
Australia
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Just some quick feedback regarding the PDF:
• The Mark of Khorne entry in the Chaos Dreadnaught profile has 1 “and” too many.
• The Biker Champion has a listed toughness of 4 instead of 4(5)
• Clarify if unmarked daemons can be summoned by a marked unit
• Terminator entry is missing personal icon as selectable wargear.
• Possessed entry still references marks as icons.
I've also posted a list as requested. It’s a fun list that makes use of units that have been revamped by this ruleset.
HQ
Chaos Lord with Mark of Khorne, Daemon Weapon, Daemonic Visage, Melta Bombs, Icon of the Black Legion and Chaos Warlord. 200pts
Elites
5 Terminators with twin lightning claws, Mark of Khorne. 225pts
Land Raider dedicated transport. 235pts
Chaos Dreadnaught with plasma cannon, missile launcher and havoc launcher. 145pts
Chaos Dreadnaught with plasma cannon, missile launcher and havoc launcher. 145pts
Troops
10 Chaos Space Marines with 2 melta guns and mark of chaos undivided. Aspiring champion equipped with power fist and personal icon. 205 pts
Rhino dedicated transport. 35 pts
10 Chaos Space Marines with 2 plasma guns and mark of chaos undivided. Aspiring champion equipped with power weapon, plasma pistol and personal icon and. 215 pts
Rhino dedicated transport. 35 pts
8 Khorne Berserkers with a skull champion equipped with a power fist. 201 pts
Heavy Support
Chaos Land Raider. 235pts
Predator with heavy bolter sponsons, havoc launcher, extra armour and dozer blades. 120pts
Total: 1996
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Your hate has made you powerful. Now take your Privateer Press tape measure and strike me down with all your hatred and your journey to the dark side will be complete!!!
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2011/05/10 11:43:00
Subject: Just Dave's Chaos Space Marine Codex - FULL PDF AVAILABLE. 'Av a look!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ah, good call Candyman, thanks for the feedback. I have changed the PDF in accordance with your comments and have updated the attached file in the OP. Thanks man, very helpful of you!
Haven't seen you online for a while actually...
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Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.
"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman
"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
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