The 40K Adeptus Custodes News and Rumors Thread

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**shade1313**

Crimson wrote:
Yodhrin wrote:
He actually isn't, not even slightly. Custodes are one of those things that *sounds* really cool, and looks *extremely* cool, right up to the point you realise everyone else thinks so as well and now you're going to spend a significant amount of matches playing against what are supposed to be an incredibly rare faction with an incredibly specific purpose but who now apparently will be wiping out the PDF on Planet Bowlingball every other saturday afternoon.

Look at Marines - people's reaction to the super-duper-mega-ultra-elite genetically engineered supersoldier special forces guys became so blase that they had to introduce new, even more specialer even more superer Big Marines.

Custodes are like Titans - they look amazing in the art, and maybe seeing *one* special Forgeworld model show up on the table now and again would be awesome, but they shouldn't be standard fare.

This is certainly a valid point, but considering that nowadays half of the armies on the tabletop are led by actual Primarchs, that ship has kinda sailed.

That, and, let's be honest here. There are more Custodes than there are Ultramarines. More Custodes than Dark Angels. Same with Blood Angels, Space Wolves, etc Ten times as many Custodes as any codex compliant chapter, when you get to the numbers.

By rights, SM armies ought to be rare, if rarity in universe were to have sway over how common an army is in play.

But that would be kind of dumb, and I'm glad that there's enough variety out there for people to be able to find and play what appeals to them.

**H.B.M.C.**

I'm sure people used to argue that AdMech shouldn't be represented on the tabletop.

Custodes? No problem. Bring 'em on.

I think this guy is coming out with a full Talons of the Emperor Codex, complete with more new miniatures.

**BrianDavion**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm sure people used to argue that AdMech shouldn't be represented on the tabletop.

Custodes? No problem. Bring 'em on.

I think this guy is coming out with a full Talons of the Emperor Codex, complete with more new miniatures.

That's my guess too. we're got the minis, but no real way to deploy them as a stand alone army. And Talons of the Emperor would be VERY popular.

**Fan67**

By the way, aside from Guilliman, we have the first ever miniature of the Lord of Terra released.

And given the present representation of the council, there are at least several more peronalities who can find their way to the tabletop.
Inquisitorial representative may be, and Fabricator General of Mars as a Fortification choice (god I love how they discribed his transportation to Terra).

**KingRickRich**

I'll be able to run my Custodes Patrol without a stand in HQ now

**Mandragola**

BrianDavion wrote:
Mandragola wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Mandragola wrote:
ImAGeek wrote:
Mandragola wrote:

Which rumour engine thing? They confirmed on FB that the lion head is from him.

Lion head? I'm talking about this:

[ don't think part of this guy. He's got very similar symbols but they don't quite match. I'm therefore wondering if there's more to come.

Yeah, that one is a bit different to the HQs axe but close enough that I don’t know that it could be anything else.
This is the one I meant.

Yeah this is why I think it’s some other, as yet unseen, Custodes thing. The style matches but it’s not exactly the same piece.

We know the first codex for 2018 is Chaos Deamons, maybe the second one is Adeptus Custodes?

That’s possible. Necrons and Tau are also supposedly in the mix.

I’d expect there to be a 40k release with miniatures before too long. So far we’ve had primaris and death guard, plus a bunch of books without minis. Daemons, tau and necrons don’t really need new models but talons and SoBs would need their ranges significantly enlarged.

This is still speculation. But we have a new custodes mini and a rumour engine thing that seems to match him very closely, but not exactly. I could be adding 2+2 and reaching 5 though. This guy could easily be a one-off.

**MajorWesJanson**

Daemons will likely come with GUO and beasts and other nurgle gribblies. Tau and Necrons will probably be codex and limited kits, maybe a clampack shaper and cryptek respectively.

But i honestly dont see a major increase in the talons range. Giving custodes and sisters of silence hq models would let them take their own detachments with minimal model investment, and they could be rolled into an Agents of the Imperium book with assassins and inquisition easily.

**Mr Morden**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
Daemons will likely come with GUO and beasts and other nurgle gribblies. Tau and Necrons will probably be codex and limited kits, maybe a clampack shaper and cryptek respectively.

But i honestly dont see a major increase in the talons range. Giving custodes and sisters of silence hq models would let them take their own detachments with minimal model investment, and they could be rolled into an Agents of the Imperium book with assassins and inquisition easily.

It would be nice to see especially since Dark and Blood Angels got yet another specific model and reboxed minis especially for them.

**Audustum**

While I would agree that rolling them I to Agents would be easy (and probably a good idea), I will also point out that the official 40k website lists Custodes, Sisters and Agents as being entirely separate factions. This makes me lean towards a range expansion.

**Mandragola**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
Daemons will likely come with GUO and beasts and other nurgle gribblies. Tau and Necrons will probably be codex and limited kits, maybe a clampack shaper and cryptek respectively.

But i honestly dont see a major increase in the talons range. Giving custodes and sisters of silence hq models would let them take their own detachments with minimal model investment, and they could be rolled into an Agents of the Imperium book with assassins and inquisition easily.

It's entirely possible that you're right. I was just suggesting one way that it might go, but for sure nothing much at all might happen. A clampack character and the same rules printed again would be entirely possible.

When they reprinted the talons of the emperor box and added the 8th edition rules I took it to mean they wouldn't do anything more for them for a while. That doesn't seem to have been right, as at the very least they're getting their character.

That said, that eagle thing from the rumour engine does look a lot like a Custodes thing. It's almost identical to the device on the new guy's axe.

**jhe90**

Chikout wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
Chikout wrote:
It is a very nice mini. Since it is in plastic, and that rumour image is very similar but not this mini, it is either part if a triumvirate or part a larger range of custodes minis. My guess is that Rogal Dorn will be the next primarch but he will be commanding the custodes and not the imperial fists. I think this ties into something Sad Panda said ages ago about primarchs returning at the head of surprising armies.

Or it's just a bird for a model in Age of Sigmar and has nothing to do with 40k?

Worth mentioning that Wanderers are still sitting on a lot of hero models in Finecast/metal and they've been given a warlord trait and a relic both that grant a character with no ranged attack(which in this case means just the Spellsinger) a bird that gives a ranged attack instead. And that the bird in question looks markedly similar to that which the Nomad Prince has perched on his arm.

In the rumour article, they said they were particularly excited to show that model. That suggests something primarch level.

Captain general of thr custodes.

Basically think a chapter master. Only more dangerous, powerful and skilled.

Very very powerful warrior.

**oni**

Arbitrator wrote:
oni wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
I would have been more than happy for the Custodes and SoS to stay in the background. But then GW went and gave them some really nice models, so now I want more

We can only handle so many Adeptus Astartes. I'm an avid fan of all things Space Marines, but even I can admit/agree that the line is rather saturated. It's nice and refreshing to have new factions like the Custodes, etc. to add to the mix. It would be nice for GW to fill out the Custodes line a little more. Here's to hoping that the line sells well enough to see that happen.

Refreshing would be more Xenos or hell more Chaos factions.

We really need non-FW Chaos mortals.

Unfortunately, I think making different xenos factions is a gamble GW isn't ready to take at the moment. IMO the probability of success isn't on their side.

**BrianDavion**

oni wrote:
Arbitrator wrote:
oni wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
I would have been more than happy for the Custodes and SoS to stay in the background. But then GW went and gave them some really nice models, so now I want more

We can only handle so many Adeptus Astartes. I'm an avid fan of all things Space Marines, but even I can admit/agree that the line is rather saturated. It's nice and refreshing to have new factions like the Custodes, etc. to add to the mix. It would be nice for GW to fill out the Custodes line a little more. Here's to hoping that the line sells well enough to see that happen.

Refreshing would be more Xenos or hell more Chaos factions.

We really need non-FW Chaos mortals.

Unfortunately, I think making different xenos factions is a gamble GW isn't ready to take at the moment. IMO the probability of success isn't on their side.

Agreed. meanwhile a nbew imperiul faction would have lore to support and and a built in purchase base.

**cuda1179**

What if they did a sort-of Human faction? They all ready did this with Genestealer cults, they could do it again in a slightly different fashion. I don't want to set the Squat clock back, but I could see something like that happening.

**BrianDavion**

cuda1179 wrote:
What if they did a sort-of Human faction? They all ready did this with Genestealer cults, they could do it again in a slightly different fashion. I don't want to set the Squat clock back, but I could see something like that happening.

GSC, Squats and Custodes IMHO represent the type of new factions we're most likely to see going forward for the forseeable future in 40k. Long eistablished background factions, with a built in fanbase and demand.

Honestly Squats are proably more likely then some completely new race

**Blitza da warboy**

BrianDavion wrote:
cuda1179 wrote:
What if they did a sort-of Human faction? They all ready did this with Genestealer cults, they could do it again in a slightly different fashion. I don't want to set the Squat clock back, but I could see something like that happening.

GSC, Squats and Custodes IMHO represent the type of new factions we're most likely to see going forward for the forseeable future in 40k. Long eistablished background factions, with a built in fanbase and demand.

Honestly Squats are proably more likely then some completely new race

but....sisters guys what about sisters

**casvalremdeikun**

I hope they don't go crazy and make a bunch of new Custodes stuff. We have enough Marine-esque stuff as is. Gimme a new Xenos species.

**GoatboyBeta**

The Talons already have IIRC five unit builds from two infantry kits. So two or three more multi build kits, along with some clampack characters would probably go a long way to filling out the Talons as a viable stand alone army. Especially if they allow them access to some existing models as well(SoS Razerback or Custodes LR Crusader/Redeemer anyone?).

**Fireball**

We already saw a small preview of Constantin Valdor from FW ... he is on his way as well and looks to be much more impressive than this Captain General ... I like him, but I guess Valdor will make him look like another Tribune ...

**BrianDavion**

GoatboyBeta wrote:
The Talons already have IIRC five unit builds from two infantry kits. So two or three more multi build kits, along with some clampack characters would probably go a long way to filling out the Talons as a viable stand alone army. Especially if they allow them access to some existing models as well(SoS Razerback or Custodes LR Crusader/Redeemer anyone?).

Agreed. right now they have 1 type of troop with two seperate builds, 4 elites (the SoS squad varients and a dreadnought) 1 heavy support option and a rhino option for sisters. a few HQ clam packs and honestly that'd be better off then some of the new armies are. give them a fast attack option and you've a pretty good army. nothing likely to be a top tier no, but eneugh that people'd be happy I think

**Mr Morden**

BrianDavion wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
The Talons already have IIRC five unit builds from two infantry kits. So two or three more multi build kits, along with some clampack characters would probably go a long way to filling out the Talons as a viable stand alone army. Especially if they allow them access to some existing models as well(SoS Razerback or Custodes LR Crusader/Redeemer anyone?).

Agreed. right now they have 1 type of troop with two seperate builds, 4 elites (the SoS squad varients and a dreadnought) 1 heavy support option and a rhino option for sisters. a few HQ clam packs and honestly that'd be better off then some of the new armies are. give them a fast attack option and you've a pretty good army. nothing likely to be a top tier no, but eneugh that people'd be happy I think

If they included the 30k units they would have a nice army. But not marines.

**Dreadclaw69**

Yodhrin wrote:
He actually isn't, not even slightly. Custodes are one of those things that *sounds* really cool, and looks *extremely* cool, right up to the point you realise everyone else thinks so as well and now you're going to spend a significant amount of matches playing against what are supposed to be an incredibly rare faction with an incredibly specific purpose but who now apparently will be wiping out the PDF on Planet Bowlingball every other saturday afternoon.

Look at Marines - people's reaction to the super-duper-mega-ultra-elite genetically engineered supersoldier special forces guys became so blase that they had to introduce new, even more specialer even more superer Big Marines.

Custodes are like Titans - they look amazing in the art, and maybe seeing *one* special Forgeworld model show up on the table now and again would be awesome, but they shouldn't be standard fare.

So just like Abaddon in 2nd Edition, and every other special unit in 40K?

**BrianDavion**

Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
The Talons already have IIRC five unit builds from two infantry kits. So two or three more multi build kits, along with some clampack characters would probably go a long way to filling out the Talons as a viable stand alone army. Especially if they allow them access to some existing models as well(SoS Razerback or Custodes LR Crusader/Redeemer anyone?).

Agreed. right now they have 1 type of troop with two seperate builds, 4 elites (the SoS squad varients and a dreadnought) 1 heavy support option and a rhino option for sisters. a few HQ clam packs and honestly that'd be better off then some of the new armies are. give them a fast attack option and you've a pretty good army. nothing likely to be a top tier no, but eneugh that people'd be happy I think

If they included the 30k units they would have a nice army. But not marines.

Maybe, on the other hand given the 10 thousand years I could see the custodes inventory changing a bit. honestly a overly mechanized army won't make a lot of sense given they've been guarding the palace for the past ten thousand years. so I'm fine with their only vehicles being land raiders. The Grey Knights strike me as not a bad template for the army. Vehicles mostly being transports, with specialized infantry making up the bulk of things

**Mandragola**

BrianDavion wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
The Talons already have IIRC five unit builds from two infantry kits. So two or three more multi build kits, along with some clampack characters would probably go a long way to filling out the Talons as a viable stand alone army. Especially if they allow them access to some existing models as well(SoS Razerback or Custodes LR Crusader/Redeemer anyone?).

Agreed. right now they have 1 type of troop with two seperate builds, 4 elites (the SoS squad varients and a dreadnought) 1 heavy support option and a rhino option for sisters. a few HQ clam packs and honestly that'd be better off then some of the new armies are. give them a fast attack option and you've a pretty good army. nothing likely to be a top tier no, but eneugh that people'd be happy I think

If they included the 30k units they would have a nice army. But not marines.

Maybe, on the other hand given the 10 thousand years I could see the custodes inventory changing a bit. honestly a overly mechanized army won't make a lot of sense given they've been guarding the palace for the past ten thousand years. so I'm fine with their only vehicles being land raiders. The Grey Knights strike me as not a bad template for the army. Vehicles mostly being transports, with specialized infantry making up the bulk of things

I think they definitely ought to have the contemptors. I'm not too sure about the assorted flyers, mainly because they cost so much money, but they do look really cool. It's the obvious way to flesh out the list, and coincidentally the thing that's missing from 30k is a generic character model.

They've kind of boxed themselves into a corner now by selling the set with the generic land raider, rhino and contemptor. If instead they'd worked with FW to release a codex featuring the FW range, all would have been good. For some reason though GW doesn't ever like to do this, preferring to have two seperate teams working on the rules for their game. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me!

**VictorVonTzeentch**

BrianDavion wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
The Talons already have IIRC five unit builds from two infantry kits. So two or three more multi build kits, along with some clampack characters would probably go a long way to filling out the Talons as a viable stand alone army. Especially if they allow them access to some existing models as well(SoS Razerback or Custodes LR Crusader/Redeemer anyone?).

Agreed. right now they have 1 type of troop with two seperate builds, 4 elites (the SoS squad varients and a dreadnought) 1 heavy support option and a rhino option for sisters. a few HQ clam packs and honestly that'd be better off then some of the new armies are. give them a fast attack option and you've a pretty good army. nothing likely to be a top tier no, but eneugh that people'd be happy I think

If they included the 30k units they would have a nice army. But not marines.

Maybe, on the other hand given the 10 thousand years I could see the custodes inventory changing a bit. honestly a overly mechanized army won't make a lot of sense given they've been guarding the palace for the past ten thousand years. so I'm fine with their only vehicles being land raiders. The Grey Knights strike me as not a bad template for the army. Vehicles mostly being transports, with specialized infantry making up the bulk of things

The Emperor's Legion describes them as using the various Dreadnaughts and Terminators still. Plus like 2 different Fliers. I wouldnt be surprised if their old stuff just needs to be dusted off and put out in the field. Much like the Dark Angels they dont strike me as people to just have thrown out their old tech.

**BrianDavion**

VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
The Talons already have IIRC five unit builds from two infantry kits. So two or three more multi build kits, along with some clampack characters would probably go a long way to filling out the Talons as a viable stand alone army. Especially if they allow them access to some existing models as well(SoS Razerback or Custodes LR Crusader/Redeemer anyone?).

Agreed. right now they have 1 type of troop with two seperate builds, 4 elites (the SoS squad varients and a dreadnought) 1 heavy support option and a rhino option for sisters. a few HQ clam packs and honestly that'd be better off then some of the new armies are. give them a fast attack option and you've a pretty good army. nothing likely to be a top tier no, but eneugh that people'd be happy I think

If they included the 30k units they would have a nice army. But not marines.

Maybe, on the other hand given the 10 thousand years I could see the custodes inventory changing a bit. honestly a overly mechanized army won't make a lot of sense given they've been guarding the palace for the past ten thousand years. so I'm fine with their only vehicles being land raiders. The Grey Knights strike me as not a bad template for the army. Vehicles mostly being transports, with specialized infantry making up the bulk of things

The Emperor's Legion describes them as using the various Dreadnaughts and Terminators still. Plus like 2 different Fliers. I wouldnt be surprised if their old stuff just needs to be dusted off and put out in the field. Much like the Dark Angels they dont strike me as people to just have thrown out their old tech.

true but it also notes them not having eneugh dreadnought Chassis for all their lost warriors. So relative equipment shortages makes sense, but yeah a lotta room to add in some awesome minis. and of course if they are a fully realized army FW can then give us 8th edition rules for all their custodes stuff

**VictorVonTzeentch**

BrianDavion wrote:
VictorVonTzeentch wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
GoatboyBeta wrote:
The Talons already have IIRC five unit builds from two infantry kits. So two or three more multi build kits, along with some clampack characters would probably go a long way to filling out the Talons as a viable stand alone army. Especially if they allow them access to some existing models as well(SoS Razerback or Custodes LR Crusader/Redeemer anyone?).

Agreed. right now they have 1 type of troop with two seperate builds, 4 elites (the SoS squad varients and a dreadnought) 1 heavy support option and a rhino option for sisters. a few HQ clam packs and honestly that'd be better off then some of the new armies are. give them a fast attack option and you've a pretty good army. nothing likely to be a top tier no, but eneugh that people'd be happy I think

If they included the 30k units they would have a nice army. But not marines.

Maybe, on the other hand given the 10 thousand years I could see the custodes inventory changing a bit. honestly a overly mechanized army won't make a lot of sense given they've been guarding the palace for the past ten thousand years. so I'm fine with their only vehicles being land raiders. The Grey Knights strike me as not a bad template for the army. Vehicles mostly being transports, with specialized infantry making up the bulk of things

The Emperor's Legion describes them as using the various Dreadnaughts and Terminators still. Plus like 2 different Fliers. I wouldnt be surprised if their old stuff just needs to be dusted off and put out in the field. Much like the Dark Angels they dont strike me as people to just have thrown out their old tech.

true but it also notes them not having eneugh dreadnought Chassis for all their lost warriors. So relative equipment shortages makes sense, but yeah a lotta room to add in some awesome minis. and of course if they are a fully realized army FW can then give us 8th edition rules for all their custodes stuff

True, and their shortages might be made up for in the future. I do hope they get fully realized. Because I'm sitting on my bonus and thinking "Custodes Terminators for a game all but dead in my area? Or Justaerin Terminators I can atleast use to make a Black Legion Terminator army?"

**Stevefamine**

I dont see pictures of him - can we get an imgur link? Or do we just have that eagle shoulderpad?

**ImAGeek**

Stevefamine wrote:
I dont see pictures of him - can we get an imgur link? Or do we just have that eagle shoulderpad?

**EmperorsChampion**

When does this guy go on pre-order?