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Siegfriedfr wrote:
GW: "Tyranids in the spotlight in the next White Dwarf!"
Also GW : "Tons of new rules for salamanders to kill tyranids. zip for tyranids."

It’s almost as if Tyranids are

A) due a new Codex

B) Likely to take part in Warzone Octarius, given they’re an inherent part of that bit of the background.

Will they get more than the model we’ve been teased in the Rumour Engine? Possibly, possibly not. But we have seen GW updating Xenos races of late. So there’s at least some indicators either way.

 NAVARRO wrote:
The catch 22 Spaze marines.... best selling range... most updated and supported range = best selling range.

By the looks of it nids will be lucky to come out with 1 new mini... No wonder they dont sell well in comparison with Marines.
Like I said if you have done Tyranids decades ago they are for the most part still the same models, how is that something that will appeal to Tyranid fans, specially when they see AoS producing full new armies and kits at the speed of light.

For me to come back to Nids I would need a fresh redesign and full range revamp.

Rumour engine indicates at least two new models... which is exactly why I think this weekend's update will contain exactly nothing new for Tyranids.

Instead I think it's more likely that this expansion book has token Nid rules (such as codex supplement content for Hive Fleet Leviathan) while they focus on new models for Orks & Krieg.

Then later on we get a new Tyranid codex with multiple models, possibly alongside Octarius book 2.

 Nostromodamus wrote:
Reminds me of the book Mortis which has zero Legio Mortis characters and is entirely about Legio Ignatum, a crippled White Scar and a time-travelling perpetual.

Mortis were the primary antagonist in the book, however. Since the core of the story was a massive battle between giant robots rather than foot-slogging troops or super-powered God-level Primarchs or anything, I think the lack of "characters" or even characterisation worked in the books' favour.

Besides which, I imagine the title served a dual purpose, being both metaphorical and literal in that, while Legio Mortis served as the primary antagonist, it could also be that the clinical meaning of the word was being implied, too (ie: rigor mortis, the third stage of death). Considering the bad guy forces had actual "resurrected"/possessed/zombie titans then this interpretation makes sense.

 xttz wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
The catch 22 Spaze marines.... best selling range... most updated and supported range = best selling range.

By the looks of it nids will be lucky to come out with 1 new mini... No wonder they dont sell well in comparison with Marines.
Like I said if you have done Tyranids decades ago they are for the most part still the same models, how is that something that will appeal to Tyranid fans, specially when they see AoS producing full new armies and kits at the speed of light.

For me to come back to Nids I would need a fresh redesign and full range revamp.

Rumour engine indicates at least two new models... which is exactly why I think this weekend's update will contain exactly nothing new for Tyranids.

Instead I think it's more likely that this expansion book has token Nid rules (such as codex supplement content for Hive Fleet Leviathan) while they focus on new models for Orks & Krieg.

Then later on we get a new Tyranid codex with multiple models, possibly alongside Octarius book 2.

Yeah thats what I'm thinking/hoping too- perhaps a Nidvember again? I hope they keep bringing back the creepy weirdness - the Toxicrene, Haruspex and to an extent the Zoanthrope/venomthrope did this.
I hope we get a teaser for them on Saturday.. not holding my breath but it would be nice..

It might be wishlisting, but the one on the right kinda looks like the Red Death.

RazorEdge wrote:
It's all about Tyranids, but no. It's about a complete new Salamanders Sucessor Chapter!

Fake News! Salamanders don’t have Successor Chapters!

 AduroT wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
It's all about Tyranids, but no. It's about a complete new Salamanders Sucessor Chapter!

Fake News! Salamanders don’t have Successor Chapters!

They do, Salamanders just eat their young (Successor chapters).

 xttz wrote:
The catch 22 Spaze marines.... best selling range... most updated and supported range = best selling range.

By the looks of it nids will be lucky to come out with 1 new mini... No wonder they dont sell well in comparison with Marines.
Like I said if you have done Tyranids decades ago they are for the most part still the same models, how is that something that will appeal to Tyranid fans, specially when they see AoS producing full new armies and kits at the speed of light.

For me to come back to Nids I would need a fresh redesign and full range revamp.

Same, altho some disagree, i think most of Tyranids design cues looks dated, and i ain't investing a penny unless they get a major redesign of everything troop/elites related. Even the tyrant/swarmlord could use some help.

But a total redesign most likely won't happen since they have drop-fed big monsters based on old aesthetics in the 2010, so they need to stick to dorsal chimneys and insectoid look.

What are certainly due for a redesign/new kit are:

- raveners/red terror (strong rumor engine hint)
- lictor/deathleaper (strong rumor engine hint)
- biovore/pyrovore (those 2 are due a dual kit for ages)

And since all the recent revamps involved troops, i bet the -gants/gaunts will be redesigned as well. Not betting money on warriors, they've been rekitted twice already.

If they follow their own trend, they'll want to add a brand new type of troops and a HQ that goes with it. Not sure that's what i'd want... altho new stuff is always nice, its not like Nids lack unit diversity, its more like their stats suck.

 AduroT wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
It's all about Tyranids, but no. It's about a complete new Salamanders Sucessor Chapter!

Fake News! Salamanders don’t have Successor Chapters!

Everyone has Primaris Successor Chapters.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 AduroT wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
It's all about Tyranids, but no. It's about a complete new Salamanders Sucessor Chapter!

Fake News! Salamanders don’t have Successor Chapters!

Everyone has Primaris Successor Chapters.

Even the traitor legions.

Oh right. I forgot my Space Wolves could have successors now regardless of their cursed geneseed and the daemonic machinations of Magnus the Red.

Because money.

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
Oh right. I forgot my Space Wolves could have successors now regardless of their cursed geneseed and the daemonic machinations of Magnus the Red.

Because money.

I haven't read the latest books, but aren't the Wolfspear all 'original' 30k Fenrisian recruits?

To add to the Tyranid discussion: despite not having new models since 7 years I'd say their range was/is in a pretty good state with most things plastic. However, I really dislike the tyranid Design and hope if they ever redo them large scale not a single model holding its bioweapon in its hands is left, because that was always a stupid concept and still looks bad.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
However, I really dislike the tyranid Design and hope if they ever redo them large scale not a single model holding its bioweapon in its hands is left, because that was always a stupid concept and still looks bad.

Well, technically they are not holding them, they are joined with them being symbiotic organisms, but I know what you mean Despite really liking current nids I would have no objection for such a change. For example, I really like the Exocrine or Tyrranofex with Fleshborer Hive because their weapons look like natural part of their bodies rather than something joined forcefully.

I feel like redesigning the Tyranids would just result in their current fanbase getting mad, because their design is probably the reason they're fans in the first place

"The Tyranid model range is in a really good place. Also, they should redesign the entire Tyranid model range."

What???

 Shadow Walker wrote:

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
However, I really dislike the tyranid Design and hope if they ever redo them large scale not a single model holding its bioweapon in its hands is left, because that was always a stupid concept and still looks bad.

Well, technically they are not holding them, they are joined with them being symbiotic organisms, but I know what you mean Despite really liking current nids I would have no objection for such a change. For example, I really like the Exocrine or Tyrranofex with Fleshborer Hive because their weapons look like natural part of their bodies rather than something joined forcefully.

Symbiotic weapons make perfect sense for a lot of the 'troop'-type units. Being able to swap out weapons to adapt to a given threat saves the Hive Fleet a substantial amount of energy over needing to generate entirely new genotypes from scratch.

The Tyranid design is also just fine. Older Tyranid kits don't have the level of detail that current GW kits have, so sure, I could see how some modernized kits would be cool. But the overall concept is still good. It's the rules that have profoundly lacked inspiration...for YEARS.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"The Tyranid model range is in a really good place. Also, they should redesign the entire Tyranid model range."

What???

I think he meant that they have pretty good number of plastics compared to Craftworlds for example.

Has it really been 7 years since a Tyranid came out?

What was the last one released? The Hive Crone? Plastic guard dual kit? Maleceptor?

Has it really been that long? Jeez.

 gorgon wrote:
It's the rules that have profoundly lacked inspiration...for YEARS.

This!

I too dislike that they hold symbiotic bio-guns in their hands. For a while I had a 100% melee nid army for this reason - it didn't really play very well lol. Eventually I expanded it to include things that had "integrated" weapons, i.e. biovores, trygon bio-electric spines, carnifex carapace spine cluster things, etc. It still didn't play very well.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Has it really been 7 years since a Tyranid came out?

What was the last one released? The Hive Crone? Plastic guard dual kit? Maleceptor?

Has it really been that long? Jeez.

The last Tyranid relase was the trio of kits for Toxicrene/Malaceptor, Tyrannocyte/Sporocyst, and Venomthrope/Zoanthrope/Neurotrophe + the Broodlord.
In the winter of 2014.

Decals with the Term "Krieg" in Frakturschrift Font and Numbers in Tannenberg Font....

Pic isn’t showing :(

 Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
I feel like redesigning the Tyranids would just result in their current fanbase getting mad, because their design is probably the reason they're fans in the first place

Also if they redesign it won't be new termagaunts etc. Rather new unit leaving old ones there slowly nerfed to death.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Pic isn’t showing :(

Yep. Opening the 'image' in a new tab says "Dazu muss man eingeloggt sein" or that you have to be logged in.

it is nothing special, just a comparison that the font used in the advertising matches the font on the old DK decal

tneva82 wrote:

Also if they redesign it won't be new termagaunts etc. Rather new unit leaving old ones there slowly nerfed to death.

New Ork boyz say hi

The two Gaunt kits and the Stealers could definitely do with a refresh IMO. But the resin stuff need to go first.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"The Tyranid model range is in a really good place. Also, they should redesign the entire Tyranid model range."

What???

It worked for marines, stormcast...why not tyranids?

Cronch wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
"The Tyranid model range is in a really good place. Also, they should redesign the entire Tyranid model range."

What???

It worked for marines, stormcast...why not tyranids?

I can't tell if dakka would be pro or against Primarids.