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Vhalyar wrote:What makes you think they would release a second wave so quickly? Tyranids and Space Wolves are still waiting for their second wave.

Necrons have been waiting for a wave for 10 years. I think the pooches and the bugs can bear with us as we machines get some love.

Vhalyar wrote:

Ghost21, who's rumors most of your summary is based on, said that two of the Fall of Damnos Lords would be included in the codex as Special Characters. He then added that one of the two was the Enfleshed, who makes Flayed Ones Troops.

Every single other lord in that list is pure speculation, especially the Undying - no one has said anything about him, much less that he makes Immortals Troop. And I have not seen anyone even mention the Silent King and Harbinger of the Night, I have no idea why they're in that list. So you might want to edit that to Enfleshed + "at least one of the following from FoD"

We know there will be few. We don't know exactly which besides Enfleshed and probably Undying. Thats why I wrote every named Lord I remembered. I will edit if there will be about 60% which of them won't be in codex.

But I can assure you that Silent King won't make BA allies .

Accordingly to Tabitha rumours special character vs 2+ of course it is save.

I am waiting for fresh rumours.

samrtk wrote:Necrons have been waiting for a wave for 10 years. I think the pooches and the bugs can bear with us as we machines get some love.

What you think is appropriate and what GW does is not always compatible. I do think that a second wave won't take too much time to arrive, but I wouldn't bet on anything in the same year.

e: if you want an extra rumor, there's this from Bindi Baji, a regular rumor poster at Heresy-Online:

Bindi Baji wrote:

mcmuffin wrote:Wave 2 will have Wraiths, Pariahs, Warriors and Flayed ones.

one of those is very definately going to be in the first wave

Vhalyar wrote:

Bindi Baji wrote:

mcmuffin wrote:Wave 2 will have Wraiths, Pariahs, Warriors and Flayed ones.

one of those is very definately going to be in the first wave

I think Ghost21 mentionned the Warriors to be 1st wave. Not sure, however. Tabitha also mentionned seeing plastic Wraith, so they are pretty much done!

I really hope for a fast 2nd wave...

But... I don't know.

Tony the guardsman wrote:FNP is awesome...just awesome...
No more of those stupid WBB rules!

wtf WBB is keened for them

Vhalyar wrote:

samrtk wrote:If this August release is true, which I hope it is, we should get Wave 2 before the end of the year, which would be great.

What makes you think they would release a second wave so quickly? Tyranids and Space Wolves are still waiting for their second wave.

... or a first wave Sororitas, just saying (some rumour posters like Warseer mod Darnok are quite certain about this).
And the current metal wraiths are excellent miniatures, suffering only from bad rules.

Kroothawk wrote:

Vhalyar wrote:

samrtk wrote:If this August release is true, which I hope it is, we should get Wave 2 before the end of the year, which would be great.

What makes you think they would release a second wave so quickly? Tyranids and Space Wolves are still waiting for their second wave.

... or a first wave Sororitas, just saying (some rumour posters like Warseer mod Darnok are quite certain about this).
And the current metal wraiths are excellent miniatures, suffering only from bad rules.

There's a lot of things that may or may not be coming, which is why I'm dubious about two Necron waves this year... if the first one even happens. In addition the grey knights and tyranids are supposedly getting their second waves this year. Busy schedule to fit in a wave 2 so quickly for an army not named Dark Eldar.

I'm just recompiled my predictions for this year but allot of things just dont make sense. With all the rumours floating about there just isn't enough room left this year for all the rumoured releases.

May : Tomb Kings 100%
June : Dark Eldar 2nd Wave 100%
July : Fantasy Storm of Magic 100%
August : Necrons
September : Ogre Kingdoms
October : Sisters of Battle?
November : Knights of Bretonnia
December : Nothing as usual

Summer of Fliers (Wartorn Skies?), Tyranid Wave 2, GK 2nd wave with Inquisitorial forces, plastic Pathfinders and Vespids are rumoured release candidates for 2011, but where?
Bindi Baji: Necron September release/"Before October"
ghost21: Necron August release
ghost21: I do have it on authority necrons are way before haloween thats when ogres are pegged in
Warmongergameday: Q4 Bretonnian Knights

MadCowCrazy wrote:I'm just recompiled my predictions for this year but allot of things just dont make sense. With all the rumours floating about there just isn't enough room left this year for all the rumoured releases.

May : Tomb Kings 100%
June : Dark Eldar 2nd Wave 100%
July : Fantasy Storm of Magic 100%
August : Necrons
September : Ogre Kingdoms
October : Sisters of Battle?
November : Knights of Bretonnia
December : Nothing as usual

Summer of Fliers (Wartorn Skies?), Tyranid Wave 2, GK 2nd wave with Inquisitorial forces, plastic Pathfinders and Vespids are rumoured release candidates for 2011, but where?
Bindi Baji: Necron September release/"Before October"
ghost21: Necron August release
ghost21: I do have it on authority necrons are way before haloween thats when ogres are pegged in
Warmongergameday: Q4 Bretonnian Knights

I doubt this. At most we will see Necrons > Sisters > Bretts>Tau or Tau>Bretts (Tau and Bretts are only a possibility) by the end of this year but not OK.
Just IMO

Other rumors have been pointing to Necrons being later and GW possibly getting Sisters in November/December

I hasten to add that if Ghost21 is correct and Ogres are pegged in for Halloween, a September release is beyond unlikely... Oct/Nov, certainly.

I doubt Brets this year. Harry hasn't heard anything about a Bret release that close.

How long does it usually take for 2nd waves to be released? (if there is even a norm when talking about GW )

I really hope they don't keep us waiting too long for a 2nd wave. I could see a second wave in January/Feb. I would doubt November as well.

Either way, The Necrons really need a solid release on their models, it would be a real shame if we had to wait for some of the best units, and it's not a functioning army.

Necrons (and sisters) will be like DE in terms of kits. Eldar and Tau are more like BA / wolves in terms of new stuff and BT, well they are getting some nice love too in an entirely different light.

But I think Necron players will not find themselves waiting forever to get most of the cool toys from their codex, and will be pleasantly surprised with some of the new stuff. There are some cool things now one has mentioned yet too.

Scarey Nerd wrote:I hasten to add that if Ghost21 is correct and Ogres are pegged in for Halloween, a September release is beyond unlikely... Oct/Nov, certainly.

I know, I would honestly put OK in November as Halloween is on the 31st of October but then what do we get in September?
Also with all the 2nd wave releases rumoured, summer of fliers etc there just isn't enough room left this year for all of that.

Only if GW made a huge release of GK 2nd wave, Tyranid 2nd wave and Summer of Fliers in the same month and that month would be July then I could see it all getting released this year, but if this happens I will melt down all my Sisters and sculpt a giant penis out of the pewter and shove it up my own arse whilst dancing around GW HQ singing "You spin me round right round...."
As you might have guessed I dont think it's going to happen

Tabitha wrote:Necron players will not find themselves waiting forever to get most of the cool toys from their codex, and will be pleasantly surprised with some of the new stuff. There are some cool things now one has mentioned yet too.

Could you put some light on this cool unmentioned stuff?

in September you get the "mystery box" ooooooooooo

ghost21 wrote:in September you get the "mystery box" ooooooooooo

Oh no, not again

Vhalyar wrote:

samrtk wrote:If this August release is true, which I hope it is, we should get Wave 2 before the end of the year, which would be great.

What makes you think they would release a second wave so quickly? Tyranids and Space Wolves are still waiting for their second wave.

Well because the Nids have been near-completely unsupported by GW and Space Wolves don't need a 2nd wave?! Tabitha (who seems to be a very reliable source) says that they're more in line with Dark Eldar, who so far are near what's effectively their 3rd wave:

Tabitha wrote:Necrons (and sisters) will be like DE in terms of kits. Eldar and Tau are more like BA / wolves in terms of new stuff and BT, well they are getting some nice love too in an entirely different light.

But I think Necron players will not find themselves waiting forever to get most of the cool toys from their codex, and will be pleasantly surprised with some of the new stuff. There are some cool things now one has mentioned yet too.

Just Dave wrote:Tabitha (who seems to be a very reliable source) says that they're more in line with Dark Eldar, who so far are near what's effectively their 3rd wave:

5 metal sculpts and no plastics isn't a wave.

I hope they are still usable with current models, and they don't 'tyranids' them (all old units are near unusable, buy all of the new ones for autowin!)

Just Dave wrote:Well because the Nids have been near-completely unsupported by GW and Space Wolves don't need a 2nd wave?! Tabitha (who seems to be a very reliable source) says that they're more in line with Dark Eldar, who so far are near what's effectively their 3rd wave:

Nids are rumored to have their 2nd wave coming and the same goes for GK. Space Wolves are waiting on their thunderwolves. There's an expansion that may or may not come out and if hell freezes over there will actually be two more 40k armies out this year, one of which needs much more model support than the other. Unlike Dark Eldar, Necrons don't have the same retro-fanboy appeal.

From all looks getting a second wave so quickly seems unlikely, but a rumor poster commented to the contrary. That's good for us. But she did so after your comment, so I don't see why you brought that up while quoting me.

My only conern is that if Wraiths are second wave, and the current minis are metal (which you cannot order any more). So what are we supposed to do for Wraiths/Flayed ones etc in the mean time?

Praxiss wrote:My only conern is that if Wraiths are second wave, and the current minis are metal (which you cannot order any more). So what are we supposed to do for Wraiths/Flayed ones etc in the mean time?

Flayed ones can be conerted from warriors (here's a tutorial http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/241720.page#1623562)

I'm not sure about wraiths though...

ghost21 wrote:in September you get the "mystery box" ooooooooooo

Pfft, it's not exactly a mystery now is it? Isn't it pretty much slam dunk that it will be the Summer of Fliers aka Wartorn Skies expansion?

I was thinking the new Tomb Kings models coudl make decent Wraith conversions.....can't remmber what ther're called now. But they look like big snakes with two handed weapons.


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I supopse they could be made in Wraith pretty simply, might have to trim the tail length and put them n a smaller base though....

Depending on the size you might be able to use warrior heads on them instead, maby use plasticard or something to get the bigger Wraith shoulderpads.

MadCowCrazy wrote:

ghost21 wrote:in September you get the "mystery box" ooooooooooo

Pfft, it's not exactly a mystery now is it? Isn't it pretty much slam dunk that it will be the Summer of Fliers aka Wartorn Skies expansion?

nope its not that its an actual boxed game ala space hulk

Praxiss wrote:I was thinking the new Tomb Kings models coudl make decent Wraith conversions.....can't remmber what ther're called now. But they look like big snakes with two handed weapons.


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I supopse they could be made in Wraith pretty simply, might have to trim the tail length and put them n a smaller base though....

Depending on the size you might be able to use warrior heads on them instead, maby use plasticard or something to get the bigger Wraith shoulderpads.

Those are Sepulchral Stalkers. My friend is going ape over the new Tomb Kings so he feels the need to tell me everything...lol

ghost21 wrote:

MadCowCrazy wrote:

ghost21 wrote:in September you get the "mystery box" ooooooooooo

Pfft, it's not exactly a mystery now is it? Isn't it pretty much slam dunk that it will be the Summer of Fliers aka Wartorn Skies expansion?

nope its not that its an actual boxed game ala space hulk

Fantasy based or 40k ish?

Murderous skies surely is DE flyers. Written all over the WD page...



Edit: used the false "wartorn" instead of the correct name,sorry.

MadCowCrazy wrote:
Only if GW made a huge release of GK 2nd wave, Tyranid 2nd wave and Summer of Fliers in the same month and that month would be July then I could see it all getting released this year, but if this happens I will melt down all my Sisters and sculpt a giant penis out of the pewter and shove it up my own arse whilst dancing around GW HQ singing "You spin me round right round...."
As you might have guessed I dont think it's going to happen

That was...vivid!